The red band is a nice touch. The Americans produced the .45-55 cartridge for cavalry carbines during this period, but it looked identical to the .45-70. The chief difficulty seems to have been that, when on the range, people would sneak a few cartridges out of their friends belts and replace them with the full power load, causing a round with a surprising amount of recoil. Because soldiers.
If the United States and England did a collaboration to form the best breach loading black powder cartridge firearm of the time, then I think a Martini-Henry chambered for 45-70 government would be it. I love the action of a Martini-Henry, but I have a 1884 trapdoor Springfield that shoots (with no blow tubing) group sizes smaller than the figure of merits you get with your Martinis. I think the ammunition has a lot to do with this. 45-70 comes in a lot smaller package, therefore, the powder has to be compressed. With the bullet firmly seated on a compressed charge of 65 to 70 grains of black powder, there is no need for any filler or wads. The three large grease grooves in the bullet holds enough antifouling to keep fouling mitigated for several shots. Maybe the South Carolina humidity helps with this also. I've learned so much from your videos over the years. Keep up the good content.
Great stuff. You are carrying out my wish list for Victorian era firearms. It was interesting that in the flawed but still very watchable 1979 film 'Zulu Dawn' that versions of this weapon was very well represented. Even shown as arming units of the 24th Regiment but you can sympathize with film makers in the difficulty of securing period accurate weapons.
Interesting that your carbine comes from South Australia. One of the old forts built during the Russian Scare (Fort Glanville) has been preserved and once a month an open day is held, during which they (volunteer re-enactors) live fire various artillery pieces. As artillery, their side arm is the Martini-Henry carbine, usually topped by a massive sword style bayonet. The re-enactment troop are a feature of the Anzac Day dawn service at Semaphore where they fire three volleys from the carbines.
Smashing! I'm not going to be truly happy until you ride up, fire five rounds, remount and retire in good order whilst dressed in full Frontier Light Horse kit lol. Excellent Rob, as always.
I realized when editing my own video the other day I hadn’t seen any of your content in my feed in awhile! I’m glad to see you’re still making content!
I may have mentioned this before in a comment over the years - as a long time viewer - but you are living out a very specific type of fantasy of mine that frankly my wife would never understand, as an Englishman. I look forward to each of your posts, and am eternally grateful that I get to both live in an age where I can view this stuff, but also have lived in an age where the thought of this kind of content was mere fantasy; emphasising my enjoyment that much more now that I get to enjoy it.
Legend - coincides with me working up loads for my Artillery carbine. What luck! Really enjoyed the volley fire section in several screens. Thank you again.
Hello once more from the sunny south Okanagan, thanks for another excellent presentation sir. While I believe I've seen a Martini Cavalry Carbine at the Cody museum and possibly at the annual Penticton gun show, I know I've never handled one. It is a cute little arm for sure! Look forward to seeing it in future videos. Stay well.
I came across a few dozen Martini carbines stashed 'behind the scenes' at Royal Armouries Fort Nelson Museum. They really are delightful to handle. However, with UK firearms laws as they are, I didn't dare to even jokingly ask my gracious host if I could take just a couple home as souvenirs. The small arms stashed there also included all shapes and sizes of Victorian era British service muskets, including some enormous ones that must only have been suitable for ship-to-ship combat.
That is truly a beautiful carbine in excellent condition. So glad you were able to find it. I really enjoyed this video. I actually have data on my table for reloading my Snider Carbine for a future Summer range day. Thanks for the inspirational video.
@@britishmuzzleloaders Your videos make my day!! When you go though the history it reminds me of the stories my great grandfather, grandfather and grand uncles told me about their service in the Sudan, South Africa and WWI. Great work.....never stop please.
A great video Rob, and well up to your usual excellent standard! I was interested to see you using foam backing rod. This is something I have recently switched to using in my MH MkII. I found that on a hot day, cotton wool formed a really hard fouling in the barrel which affected the shooting badly. Foam backing road has been successful for me so far, though other range users are always amused to see it in flight, following the bullet! Thanks again for such an interesting video. Best wishes, Jason
Beautiful carbine Rob and I love the cute pink patched boolits. 😁👍👍👏👏👏👏👏 I tried that foam rod, in my 577-500 No2 Martini, and it certainly does a good job of filling the space in the case, but I didn't like polluting the environment with the stuff. I have stuck with using raw wool as a packing and it smells of lanolin when fired and works exceptionally well. I have a friend who is a sheep farmer and it wasn't hard to get a rejected fleece from him and one fleece will help fill thousands of cased at a few grams each.
@@britishmuzzleloaders Historically correct ammo is fine and where you live not so dangerous, but down here in Australia, cotton wool is a great fire starter. In fact I use it in my flint/steel fire starting kit, because it is so good at igniting from the glowing char cloth. On the other hand, raw wool, even though it is filled with lanolin, just does not want to burn. I did try using raw cotton in my fire kit collected from the side of the highway, which had fallen from passing cotton bale trucks and it just would not ignite from the char cloth spark, so it would make ok packing, but collecting it is hit and miss and dangerous! 😉😅
The British cavalry were absolutely metal. Considering the carbine was lighter weight than the American Trapdoor carbine, but used a powder charge and bullet weight that were slightly heavier than the 45-70-405 (and later the 45-70-500) which was used in rifles while the 45-55-405 was used in the carbines.
Looks like I'm not the only one that got motivated by Papa Swolio. "Go to the gym!" Okay...I guess... The ICI might double as a pretty good Indian Club, haha
Recently saw 2.of these at a Gun Show. One in .577/450 Martini Henry and the other in .303 British. Unfortunately the prices on each were way outside what I could afford.
@@britishmuzzleloaders There was also something called Combat PT, basically doing fire and movement at the jog, and this usually entailed rifle PT as well
The foam, as a material burn quite well. But the short time it's exposed to the explotion, I guess it doesn't heat enough to catch fire, or the speed of the wad "blows" the fire out, as soon as it get out of the barrel.
A Morris tube was .23 not .45..... have a look in the BMF 20th anniversary Shoot video to see one there. But really, I must say that I have no interest in shooting some sort of adapter. It's Historical Shooting for a reason 😀. but hey,... to each their own, of course!
@@britishmuzzleloaders well. I'm not sure what you'd exactly call them I'm across the pond . in my area they changed hunting laws in a manner that you may now hunt with straight wall cartridge rifles holding no more than three rounds of ammunition single shot rifles such as martini Snider Mauser And gahendra rifles are favored as vintage arms . But somehow now a martini is not legal in 577/450 to hunt with. But a prison .410 martini would be . Because of cartridge shape So we solve the issue with a .45 colt cartridge adapter it also solves the availability of good condition martini brass issue . Which is occasionally difficult to obtain in the united states
Very interesting. I have such a carbine from my dad. I bought reloading dies befor a few weeks. But brass isn't available.... Your videos are always the best about this theme.
Can you trim and size 24 ga. brass shotgun shells to make your proper sized brass ? That is what I do for my Sniders. I have always wondered why the Brits used reformed Snider brass when they could have used a str8 walled case like the US 45-70.
This reminds me of what I went through in boot camp. If you screwed up your back goes up against the wall and slide down to a position that looked like you were sitting in a 🪑. Then you hold your M1 Garand straight out in front of you. Then the fun wait. lol
Thank you for this very interesting video (thank a lot for the à la Village People intro). I take advantage of this dull comment to ask what's the difference between "Model" and "Pattern" in a military regulation context.
Excellent work as always. Being British i have access to sheep fleece that I can gather from barb wire fences to use as packing in my MH cartridges. It tends not to burn and packs the case well. I can recommend not using dog hair gathered from a pet groomers, as the smell is most unpleasant 😂
Ditch the foam backer. The lazy or easy route isn't always the best. Have you tried scrunched up cigarette papers, King Size, as a filler. It works and its biodegradable too. :-)
Hello Rob, thanks for another great video. Nice to see a carbine put through its paces with some different loads. I know you are huge fan of the figure of merit but have you considered say shooting 12 and taking the best 10 to help iron out any shooters "twitch" effecting the results and focusing more on the rifle/ammunition/load result ? Cheers Chris
I do something similar as a comparison, when there are obvious weird results... "FoM with all rounds" and "FoM without the flyer" for comparison. In the end, I'm testing me as much as the rifle....
it must take a while to get a tray full of rounds/the blew tube is ingenious/ at least the ninth round wasn't a squib/ can the carbine adjusted for windage?
Awesome video as always, Rob! I loved the looks of the carbine. Too bad Davide Pedersoli hasn’t seen fit to make a Martini Henry replica. I suppose there isn’t a large enough potential market, but I can dream. Looking forward to more content with your new carbine.
Probably not.. just not really enough of a difference in functioning.... Used by the Artillery a bit but not really one of those rifles that saw much action...
@@britishmuzzleloaders hell i didn't even know it saw any service i just thought they were just in case conversions! but it is one of those platypus guns that grabs your attention!
Hello Again I was curious to the size of your paper patch? I am about to load my first batch, carbine and the patch seems too wide. I cut about a 1/4 inch off and seems that is about right but wanted to see what you did as well. Thanks for your help and Great videos.
Hello I have a question could you do a shooting video of the baker rifle with bayonet attached to see if there is a difference in accuracy? Love your videos keep up the good work 👍
Do you ever randomly run into people hiking the back woods while shooting? But most importantly do you ever run into conservation officers while filming? I can only imagine the conversation everytime someone is currious of what your doing.
It may seem a stupid question but how does barrel length effect range and distance accuracy. Ian macollum (forgotten weapons)? was firing a carbine Martini and it had a respectable kick . This seemed to be the result of too great a powder charge.
It’s been proven that barrel length has little to do with actual accuracy. (FoM/Group Size) but does indeed have a role in velocity and resultantly trajectory…. A shorter barrel will give a lower velocity with a given cartridge.
In the documentary from 'History Hit' 'Forgotten Revolutionary War Battlefield Skeletons Discovered | Battle of Camden' They show a piece of flint at least 4 times bigger than the one I use in my Brown Bess. (min 12.47) What flintlock musket would use such a huge flint?
As ever the intro vignette was hilarious. I trust the Martini-Henry has recovered from it's pre-shooting work-out.
Yes it has... 😀
Yes, they are terrific!😂
There was also something called Combat PT, basically doing fire and movement at the jog, and this usually entailed rifle PT as well
The red band is a nice touch. The Americans produced the .45-55 cartridge for cavalry carbines during this period, but it looked identical to the .45-70. The chief difficulty seems to have been that, when on the range, people would sneak a few cartridges out of their friends belts and replace them with the full power load, causing a round with a surprising amount of recoil. Because soldiers.
Cheers
If the United States and England did a collaboration to form the best breach loading black powder cartridge firearm of the time, then I think a Martini-Henry chambered for 45-70 government would be it. I love the action of a Martini-Henry, but I have a 1884 trapdoor Springfield that shoots (with no blow tubing) group sizes smaller than the figure of merits you get with your Martinis. I think the ammunition has a lot to do with this. 45-70 comes in a lot smaller package, therefore, the powder has to be compressed. With the bullet firmly seated on a compressed charge of 65 to 70 grains of black powder, there is no need for any filler or wads. The three large grease grooves in the bullet holds enough antifouling to keep fouling mitigated for several shots. Maybe the South Carolina humidity helps with this also.
I've learned so much from your videos over the years. Keep up the good content.
Sure thing! They are similar, but with many subtle differences that separate them...
Great stuff. You are carrying out my wish list for Victorian era firearms. It was interesting that in the flawed but still very watchable 1979 film 'Zulu Dawn' that versions of this weapon was very well represented. Even shown as arming units of the 24th Regiment but you can sympathize with film makers in the difficulty of securing period accurate weapons.
The carbines in Zulu Dawn were 303 Artillery Carbines. You can tell by the muzzle
@@britishmuzzleloaders Excellent!
Interesting that your carbine comes from South Australia. One of the old forts built during the Russian Scare (Fort Glanville) has been preserved and once a month an open day is held, during which they (volunteer re-enactors) live fire various artillery pieces. As artillery, their side arm is the Martini-Henry carbine, usually topped by a massive sword style bayonet. The re-enactment troop are a feature of the Anzac Day dawn service at Semaphore where they fire three volleys from the carbines.
The Artillery carbine is very similar to the Cavalry version. Sling swivels and a bayonet bar are the stand out differences.
I actually nodded when you asked to come along, lol! So excited for another great video!!
Nice!
Thank you. Brilliant work as always.
Cheers!
Thanks for being so methodical and taking into account historical accuracy. Top notch
Very kind.
Always learn something new.
Cheers!
Love seeing your method for working up the load. Going to be doing the same with my 1888 Springfield Trapdoor
Nice!
Your understated humour is a hallmark of your presentations. Your hands-on experimentations to verify your extensive document research is astounding.
Very kind. Thank you.
Your thoroughness and attention to detail is much appreciated.
Cheers!
First! Starting off a rifle work-up with a vigorous pre-smoking session... damn fine soldiering!
Cheers!
Smashing! I'm not going to be truly happy until you ride up, fire five rounds, remount and retire in good order whilst dressed in full Frontier Light Horse kit lol. Excellent Rob, as always.
Haha! That's a bridge that, while I will never say never, is a looong way off....
Rob is possibly the only man in the world who can make a video on load development, and keep the viewers awake through the entire video.
Very kind. Glad you didn’t fall asleep…!
I realized when editing my own video the other day I hadn’t seen any of your content in my feed in awhile! I’m glad to see you’re still making content!
Keeping on keeping on!
Another brilliant program and love the screen shots 😊
Cheers!
Entertaining, informative, and presented in fine form. Just what I'd expect. Thank you!
Glad to hear! thank you.
I may have mentioned this before in a comment over the years - as a long time viewer - but you are living out a very specific type of fantasy of mine that frankly my wife would never understand, as an Englishman. I look forward to each of your posts, and am eternally grateful that I get to both live in an age where I can view this stuff, but also have lived in an age where the thought of this kind of content was mere fantasy; emphasising my enjoyment that much more now that I get to enjoy it.
That it very kind. Glad you enjoy the Channel!
Love your case rammer Rob, noticed it right off. Don’t know how many times I’ve scraped and cleaned one.
Cheers!
Legend - coincides with me working up loads for my Artillery carbine. What luck! Really enjoyed the volley fire section in several screens. Thank you again.
Nice!
Always glad to see a new video pop up
Thanks!
9:58 great video work. I liked that shot.
Thank you!
Hello once more from the sunny south Okanagan, thanks for another excellent presentation sir. While I believe I've seen a Martini Cavalry Carbine at the Cody museum and possibly at the annual Penticton gun show, I know I've never handled one. It is a cute little arm for sure! Look forward to seeing it in future videos. Stay well.
Cute for sure!
I came across a few dozen Martini carbines stashed 'behind the scenes' at Royal Armouries Fort Nelson Museum. They really are delightful to handle. However, with UK firearms laws as they are, I didn't dare to even jokingly ask my gracious host if I could take just a couple home as souvenirs.
The small arms stashed there also included all shapes and sizes of Victorian era British service muskets, including some enormous ones that must only have been suitable for ship-to-ship combat.
@@derekp2674 been there! And Leeds.
Thanks a lot for the splendid and informative presentation. Looking forward for more.
Cheers!
That is a beautiful little thumper!
It is!
LOL loved that intro. Got to train hard to maintain standards.
Cheers!
That is truly a beautiful carbine in excellent condition. So glad you were able to find it. I really enjoyed this video. I actually have data on my table for reloading my Snider Carbine for a future Summer range day. Thanks for the inspirational video.
Very welcome!
ooh, good call out for the ARMAX journal re-print
Just a little help for them, I guess!
Very fun and informative. Good job.
Thank you.
Greatly appreciate the video! It is amazing to see the rich history and classic elegance of such a fine firearm.......thank you every so.
Glad you enjoyed it! Cheers!
@@britishmuzzleloaders Your videos make my day!! When you go though the history it reminds me of the stories my great grandfather, grandfather and grand uncles told me about their service in the Sudan, South Africa and WWI. Great work.....never stop please.
That's a sweet little gun.
Sure is!
@@britishmuzzleloaders Not sure any of my horses would lay quietly while I shot it over them, though.
Never saw a martini in action. Thank you!
Lot's of Martini content here!
well done!!
Cheers!
Beautiful Carbine, that is a chonky round heheh, very nice bud-- cheers!!
Thank you!
Brilliant! What a nifty firearm that is.
Cheers!
Your Videos are just great. They always make my day better
Thank you! Very kind!
Fascinating as always!
Cheers!
A great video Rob, and well up to your usual excellent standard! I was interested to see you using foam backing rod. This is something I have recently switched to using in my MH MkII. I found that on a hot day, cotton wool formed a really hard fouling in the barrel which affected the shooting badly. Foam backing road has been successful for me so far, though other range users are always amused to see it in flight, following the bullet! Thanks again for such an interesting video. Best wishes, Jason
Cheers Jason. It's the reduced fire risk that really makes it suitable for summer time here...
Super interesting video; thank you, Rob!
Cheers!
It was interesting to see the difference between the foam and the cotton wool.
Too early to truly tell, but initially there seemed to be some sort of difference.
A very neatly done demonstration and video, thank you.
Cheers!
Outstanding Sir, amazing attention to detail as usual. Looking forward to the series.
Thank you!
The multi frms volly was cool!
Glad to hear!
Martini Henry overdose with this after all the C&Rsenal videos about it.
No such thing as a Martini Henry overdose....
Was that McKenzie working out?
Always fun that one
Haha!
Beautiful carbine Rob and I love the cute pink patched boolits. 😁👍👍👏👏👏👏👏 I tried that foam rod, in my 577-500 No2 Martini, and it certainly does a good job of filling the space in the case, but I didn't like polluting the environment with the stuff. I have stuck with using raw wool as a packing and it smells of lanolin when fired and works exceptionally well. I have a friend who is a sheep farmer and it wasn't hard to get a rejected fleece from him and one fleece will help fill thousands of cased at a few grams each.
Many friends use wool as well... Funnily enough, as far as service ammo went, the Snider used carded wool and the Martini cotton wool.
@@britishmuzzleloaders Historically correct ammo is fine and where you live not so dangerous, but down here in Australia, cotton wool is a great fire starter. In fact I use it in my flint/steel fire starting kit, because it is so good at igniting from the glowing char cloth. On the other hand, raw wool, even though it is filled with lanolin, just does not want to burn. I did try using raw cotton in my fire kit collected from the side of the highway, which had fallen from passing cotton bale trucks and it just would not ignite from the char cloth spark, so it would make ok packing, but collecting it is hit and miss and dangerous! 😉😅
That is a nice looking carbine
Very lucky to have come by it.
Pokey drill. Flash backs. I am now re-traumatised. 😬
Take two BML videos and see me in the morning.
Congrats on the new Martini Henry. Can't wait to see more videos on it. thanks for the advice on the foam backer rod as a filler
More will come eventually!
The British cavalry were absolutely metal. Considering the carbine was lighter weight than the American Trapdoor carbine, but used a powder charge and bullet weight that were slightly heavier than the 45-70-405 (and later the 45-70-500) which was used in rifles while the 45-55-405 was used in the carbines.
Mental?.... It's really not that bad of a recoil...
Pretty elegant looking firearm from the British empire I always had a fascination with the martini Henry because of battlefield 1 and Zulu
Nice!
Looks like I'm not the only one that got motivated by Papa Swolio. "Go to the gym!" Okay...I guess... The ICI might double as a pretty good Indian Club, haha
Haha!
Nice presentation mick
Thanks!
The graphs are great but I really liked the load where the pattern was a circle. The 65gr second grouping I think.
Cheers!
Recently saw 2.of these at a Gun Show. One in .577/450 Martini Henry and the other in .303 British. Unfortunately the prices on each were way outside what I could afford.
Too bad!
That thump... I'm in love
Haha!
I do love this channel lol. Thank you for making all these great history/shooting videos.
Cheers!
Rifle PT, actually a thing in the Canadian Army. I did it with the FN C1 and with the C7, and is not as easy as one would think.
Yes! Actually the subject of an upcoming video.
@@britishmuzzleloaders There was also something called Combat PT, basically doing fire and movement at the jog, and this usually entailed rifle PT as well
great vid ......
always entertaining and informative
keep up the brilliant efforts
🙂🙂🙂
Thank you!
Where is @garandthumb when you need him. Well done. Excellent quality production.
who?
Like the SMLE and K98 its just one of those guns that stands out for its film roles let alone battle honours
True enough...
Sarco has martini henry bandoliers for sale for only 45$ US at least they were anyways. for anyone thats interested.
Nice!
Beautiful ammo!!!!!!
Cheers!
I am surprised the foam backer rod did not burn. Since I got a piece to burn by accident when sobering some copper pluming.
The foam, as a material burn quite well. But the short time it's exposed to the explotion, I guess it doesn't heat enough to catch fire, or the speed of the wad "blows" the fire out, as soon as it get out of the barrel.
The flash of the powder does not ignite it al all... different from a flame, per se...
Excellent!
Cheers!
You know you could get a Morris tube for that to shoot regular modern .45 colt or .45acp ammo.. it's quite nice and not loud
But that wouldn't be fun anymore.
A Morris tube was .23 not .45..... have a look in the BMF 20th anniversary Shoot video to see one there. But really, I must say that I have no interest in shooting some sort of adapter. It's Historical Shooting for a reason 😀. but hey,... to each their own, of course!
@@britishmuzzleloaders well. I'm not sure what you'd exactly call them I'm across the pond . in my area they changed hunting laws in a manner that you may now hunt with straight wall cartridge rifles holding no more than three rounds of ammunition single shot rifles such as martini Snider Mauser And gahendra rifles are favored as vintage arms . But somehow now a martini is not legal in 577/450 to hunt with. But a prison .410 martini would be . Because of cartridge shape So we solve the issue with a .45 colt cartridge adapter it also solves the availability of good condition martini brass issue . Which is occasionally difficult to obtain in the united states
@@agoogleaccount2861 I see. I know of adaptors but don't use them. Cheers!
@@agoogleaccount2861I would call fish and wildlife and ask if it applies to primitive black powder cartridges. It may not.
Very interesting. I have such a carbine from my dad.
I bought reloading dies befor a few weeks. But brass isn't available....
Your videos are always the best about this theme.
Can you trim and size 24 ga. brass shotgun shells to make your proper sized brass ? That is what I do for my Sniders. I have always wondered why the Brits used reformed Snider brass when they could have used a str8 walled case like the US 45-70.
Yes. But 24 gauge Brass is also not available....😅
@@p.o.ackley1540 I have some I can send you.
Brass?.... did you watch the end of the video? Link in the description... X Ring Services... all the way.
Hi Robert,
to German?
Hmm.... Don't laugh, bevor a few weeks I sent .44-40 Brass to a friend in Canada. The price for sending was about 40€.... 😆
Now there's an idea of how to combine working out with a shooting hobby.
For sure!
Still waiting for the carbine playlist😅.
Excellent content as always Rob
Filmed the first two,..... In the editing queue now...
@@britishmuzzleloaders legend, i am so excited
Is it possible mirage might be hosing your sight picture near the tail end of the string......curious. You ARE a better shot than I am.
Hi Mark,.. Maybe! I don't recall that it was too bad though...
This reminds me of what I went through in boot camp. If you screwed up your back goes up against the wall and slide down to a position that looked like you were sitting in a 🪑. Then you hold your M1 Garand straight out in front of you. Then the fun wait. lol
Ahhh, the memories, eh?
@@britishmuzzleloaders nothing like exercising with your rifle
I enjoyed watching the video.its beautiful cavalry carbine rifle
It is a very nice example!
Thank you for this very interesting video (thank a lot for the à la Village People intro).
I take advantage of this dull comment to ask what's the difference between "Model" and "Pattern" in a military regulation context.
They essentially mean the same thing. But pattern refers to the frame/system of a particular firearms system, and Model is the variant of it.
@@diktatoralexander88 Thank you!👍
Pattern tends to be a British/Empire used term while Model tends to be an American used term. They mean the same thing.
@@britishmuzzleloaders Thank you too!
On your part Rob, this must have been a very time consuming video, which I greatly enjoyed.
A couple of outings, for sure!
I do love paper patched but sadly my rifle dont.
But where's the horse? 😅
Haven't talked to the man about it yet....
Excellent work as always. Being British i have access to sheep fleece that I can gather from barb wire fences to use as packing in my MH cartridges. It tends not to burn and packs the case well. I can recommend not using dog hair gathered from a pet groomers, as the smell is most unpleasant 😂
"Carded" wool (carded by the barbed wire that is 😀) does duty well enough for sure! Have some friends that do the same.
I use carded wool myself. Perhaps the foam backers are not compressing the charge as much?
Grease cookie, eh? Does it taste good?
Don't lie, Rob, I know you've tried it
They’re not for oral use.
Ewww,..... olive oil and beeswax.... completely edible.... but no...
@@britishmuzzleloaders well, that's an idea for the sergeant. In case a certain private McKenzie forgets his kit
@@sirfox950 Haha!
Ditch the foam backer. The lazy or easy route isn't always the best. Have you tried scrunched up cigarette papers, King Size, as a filler. It works and its biodegradable too. :-)
Nothing lazy about it…
Outstanding video 2 thumbs up from a history nut
Very kind!
If you don't set fire to BC, I'd love to see any further data you work up. Great video.
Don't worry... I won't...
Hello Rob, thanks for another great video. Nice to see a carbine put through its paces with some different loads. I know you are huge fan of the figure of merit but have you considered say shooting 12 and taking the best 10 to help iron out any shooters "twitch" effecting the results and focusing more on the rifle/ammunition/load result ? Cheers Chris
I do something similar as a comparison, when there are obvious weird results... "FoM with all rounds" and "FoM without the flyer" for comparison. In the end, I'm testing me as much as the rifle....
it must take a while to get a tray full of rounds/the blew tube is ingenious/ at least the ninth round wasn't a squib/ can the carbine adjusted for windage?
Complex but not difficult/a historical device/yes just under loaded/no windage.
I think you just invented a new pipe tune. "The 72.5 grain". It could be a bit like the finale to the 1812 overture.
Haha!
Awesome video as always, Rob! I loved the looks of the carbine. Too bad Davide Pedersoli hasn’t seen fit to make a Martini Henry replica. I suppose there isn’t a large enough potential market, but I can dream. Looking forward to more content with your new carbine.
Just find a real one,.... they are out there.
Great Vid! Just subscribed! Hey what jacket is that your wearing?
It's Canadian Bush Jacket. More info in Part 1 of the Kit Series.
I am curious about where you shoot. It looks like you have the whole of the vast Canadian forest for a range.
I do. 😀
planning on adding a 303 version to the family?and did they rebarrel or sleeve in a 303 insert on the Martini?
Probably not.. just not really enough of a difference in functioning.... Used by the Artillery a bit but not really one of those rifles that saw much action...
@@britishmuzzleloaders hell i didn't even know it saw any service i just thought they were just in case conversions! but it is one of those platypus guns that grabs your attention!
ohhh me wants - i have a Martini-Enfield Carbine - but one of these..... oh yeah almost as cute as the Host! lol.....
Haha!
Open the video, sees rifle PT,
"Oh, Atkins screwed up again..."
Haha!
Be nice if you could adjust the windage.
Sure thing. There are ways to do it….
A lot of time spent cleaning and reloading me thinks , Cheers
There are reloading videos on the Channel if you are interested.
Hi Rob , I was referring to the amount of ammo expended in the video and how much cleaning and reloading you had to do . Cheers
@@Rkolb2798 Ah, got it. 50 Rounds is a good session, for sure!
Hello Again I was curious to the size of your paper patch? I am about to load my first batch, carbine and the patch seems too wide. I cut about a 1/4 inch off and seems that is about right but wanted to see what you did as well. Thanks for your help and Great videos.
The patch is the length of the parallel part of the bullet plus about 1/3rd - 2/5ths of the diameter. Cheers!
Hello I have a question could you do a shooting video of the baker rifle with bayonet attached to see if there is a difference in accuracy?
Love your videos keep up the good work 👍
Yes I will at some point.
No matter how you cut it, the older we get, the rounder we get.
Sure thing,.
Do you ever randomly run into people hiking the back woods while shooting? But most importantly do you ever run into conservation officers while filming?
I can only imagine the conversation everytime someone is currious of what your doing.
He's just doing based stuff.
Sometimes... makes for interesting reactions....especially in kit.
@@diktatoralexander88 that's the point... or for some boys and girls, the problem.
@@britishmuzzleloaders love it!
It may seem a stupid question but how does barrel length effect range and distance accuracy. Ian macollum (forgotten weapons)? was firing a carbine Martini and it had a respectable kick . This seemed to be the result of too great a powder charge.
It’s been proven that barrel length has little to do with actual accuracy. (FoM/Group Size) but does indeed have a role in velocity and resultantly trajectory…. A shorter barrel will give a lower velocity with a given cartridge.
Those are big slugs!! 😎😎
Indeed!
In the documentary from 'History Hit' 'Forgotten Revolutionary War Battlefield Skeletons Discovered | Battle of Camden' They show a piece of flint at least 4 times bigger than the one I use in my Brown Bess. (min 12.47) What flintlock musket would use such a huge flint?
th-cam.com/video/tY8ZercBKFE/w-d-xo.html Forgotten Revolutionary War Battlefield Skeletons Discovered | Battle of Camden
Probably for a wall piece.
Did the British soldiers ever keep spare rounds in their fingers (like Quigley Down Under) for quicker follow-up firing?
No.
@@britishmuzzleloaders Might have helped in Isandlwana.
@@mistermurtad2831 100% not... There is a series on that battle on the Channel which explains why, if you are interested.