The Mk III Snider Long Rifle and the Ballard Carbine: Firepower Compared

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  • @capandball
    @capandball 3 ปีที่แล้ว +76

    Excellent video Rob! And I just love your mountains!

    • @ahmet42selim65
      @ahmet42selim65 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I think i remeber this guy from somewere

    • @mikepette4422
      @mikepette4422 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      great roe deer hunt video today !

    • @garryhynds4870
      @garryhynds4870 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Love the deer hunt in Hungary very beautiful countryside!

    • @ahmet42selim65
      @ahmet42selim65 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@garryhynds4870 do u mean the guy hat has a blunderbass and pepper box pistol

    • @britishmuzzleloaders
      @britishmuzzleloaders  3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Your mountains aren't too shabby at all, either!

  • @jarvy251
    @jarvy251 3 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Very interesting, I'd never heard of the Ballard. Looks like a handy little rifle for the time.
    I've fired a friend's Snider, he used cut down shotgun hulls to make ammunition. It was surprisingly intuitive to operate as I recall. I was impressed by the accuracy an the rate of fire you could manage. Fascinating bit of Canadian history, I can see how they sent those Fenians packing!

  • @johnqpublic2718
    @johnqpublic2718 3 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    Oh fuck yeah. My day off just got so much better. Looking Svelte, sir!

    • @mountainclawoutdoors
      @mountainclawoutdoors 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Svelte, great word. Looks good in a sweater vest is the definition, I believe.

    • @britishmuzzleloaders
      @britishmuzzleloaders  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I'm a lot of things, svelte is not one of them.

  • @whbrown1862
    @whbrown1862 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Great video! Huzzah for the Ballard and the Snider! I wonder how much American Civil War surplus weaponry got pulled into Home Guard units. It will be a great research topic for someone!

  • @danm7298
    @danm7298 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Great video. I had never heard of the fenian raids. I cannot believe that they decided to attack British forts in Canada. Shocking that ive never heard about this! Also very cool to learn not only about the gun but the tactics, doctrine, gear, and even the men that used it. Im sure a lot of us appreciate this extra history. Id like to see a video comparing the springfield trapdoor and snyder. just throwing that out there.

  • @piatpotatopeon8305
    @piatpotatopeon8305 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    That offset .22 blank brass shell is so cool! Ingenuity and niche history perfectly in tune. Synergy!

  • @ddgofer-ii1564
    @ddgofer-ii1564 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    A Branko and Rob collaboration! Wow! Brilliant move Rob. It's my pleasure know both these Gentlemen from the Alberta shoot. Thanks Gent's job well done!

    • @brankod495
      @brankod495 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I'm glad you enjoyed it Douglas.

    • @britishmuzzleloaders
      @britishmuzzleloaders  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thank Douglas! It was a fun project!

  • @blancsteve4819
    @blancsteve4819 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I have not heard of the Ballard before. Well done to the bloke in the red sash for stepping up and demonstrating it for the camera.

  • @earlyriser8998
    @earlyriser8998 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    excellent video Rob and Branko

  • @jezblades9913
    @jezblades9913 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Yet again an absolutely splendid video! Bravo sir!!

  • @polaris30000
    @polaris30000 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I was quite excited to see this video on your channel, and was not aware there was another on the Snider. I have a Mk III Snider that looks to have been converted to a carbine with a half length barrel, and I am intending to have it examined for safety before I fire it. Got it for $150 in working order, so it was an exciting find! I am wondering however, if there is a way to tell what the provenance of the rifle would be, so any advice you might have would be grand!

    • @britishmuzzleloaders
      @britishmuzzleloaders  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      There is a whole playlist on the Snider if you are interested. Cheers.

  • @sski
    @sski 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Ah HA! Nice video! Your attention to detail is amazing. Thanks for the history lesson. Sorry about the incursion. But who could resist the back bacon and maple syrup so close for the taking ;p Seriously though, I had no idea something like that even happened. They don't teach such things in the States. I'm 56 yrs. old and never heard about this. Thanks for your dedication to history and reproducing it in the way you do.

  • @tokencivilian8507
    @tokencivilian8507 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Another fine episode BM. Well done.
    (PS - the out take reel was funny....perhaps some cue cards).

  • @kearnsey64
    @kearnsey64 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It would be cool to metal detect that border area for old cartridges! The Ballard round looks like a giant .22 round? Thanks Rob and Branko!

    • @britishmuzzleloaders
      @britishmuzzleloaders  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes it would!

    • @brankod495
      @brankod495 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes, the .44 Ballard Long Rimfire is just a scaled up version of a .22 LR.

  • @NomadShadow1
    @NomadShadow1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Very cool, I enjoy seeing the “practical” employment of the early cartridge rifles, makes me feel spoiled by our modern self loading arms

  • @secutorprimus
    @secutorprimus 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I know very little about guns, but this channel makes it very easy to understand the history and usage of these near modern firearms.

  • @froginthewaves8450
    @froginthewaves8450 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Just found your channel pretty cool!

  • @Zippsterman
    @Zippsterman 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I love the change in uniforms to match the rifles

  • @ronauldcameron3623
    @ronauldcameron3623 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    As always instructional and entertaining ! Well done and Thank you Rob !.

  • @Badwolf75
    @Badwolf75 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for another outstanding video. Being born and raised just south of the Canadian border in New York, and of Irish descent . I'm shocked to never have heard of these raids.

    • @britishmuzzleloaders
      @britishmuzzleloaders  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Little known North American history.

    • @alecblunden8615
      @alecblunden8615 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I would have thought reasonably well known. Highest respect to the Militia and Home Guard.

    • @britishmuzzleloaders
      @britishmuzzleloaders  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@alecblunden8615 only in military history circles, not the public...

    • @chooseyouhandle
      @chooseyouhandle 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      My favourite forgotten North American conflict is the border war between Ohio and Michigan.

  • @onpsxmember
    @onpsxmember 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Splendid Video. And quite interesting historically and technically for someone not that particularly interested in these rifles.
    Now get together and drink every time he thanks his special guest. Once more and you scare him away.^^
    I hope for more collaborations also across channels once more. While I'm already typing, would it make sense to talk about historical beards, beard care and popular forms in certain factions?

    • @britishmuzzleloaders
      @britishmuzzleloaders  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Great to hear. Thanks! This is a shooting Channel, so apart from casual mention, things like facial hair, rations, bells and bobs, get only a passing mention.

  • @gobadgego
    @gobadgego 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you for making this video. I actually lived in Buffalo for many years and had no idea any of this happened. Fenian invasion lol! What an odd piece of history.

  • @hurricanepilots4473
    @hurricanepilots4473 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    A few months ago I left a comment asking about the Snider with reference to the Fenian Raids and the Metis uprisings, and by God you delivered. Well done sir. Militias are interesting cats. Being a "farm boy" myself, I can garentee you that even today, any threat to home and hearth that cannot be dealt with in an expedient fashion by governmental authorities would be taken care of by the locals. They would have no clue what they were actually getting themselves into, but they would do it anyway.

  • @morganjones1966
    @morganjones1966 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Most enjoyable love the history keep up the good work

  • @YerluvinunclePete
    @YerluvinunclePete 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Terrific stuff.

  • @99IronDuke
    @99IronDuke 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    A most interesting video on a little known subject.

  • @bc30cal99
    @bc30cal99 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Really fine stuff as usual sir. Have family who possess a Snider rifle from some Canadian service, what exactly is unclear. The Ballard is interesting, I have only closely examined a Pacific Ballard rifle target model so this is great to see. Thanks again.

  • @thomasfontaine414
    @thomasfontaine414 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Well done!

  • @ZenSpider40
    @ZenSpider40 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Oh how did I miss this?

  • @danm7298
    @danm7298 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I think itd be funny if he smiled and sighed after shooting like mae does lol!

  • @chrisc5275
    @chrisc5275 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Superb video as always!

  • @tedwarden5803
    @tedwarden5803 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    An outstanding historical and technical video.
    I assume than not all of the firearms you demonstrate are your own.
    But if it’s not a rude question how many bloody guns do you own.
    We’ve crossed words once or twice but without exception I’ve enjoyed your presentations.

    • @britishmuzzleloaders
      @britishmuzzleloaders  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Guns?....I don't have any.... 😎 All kidding aside, whether 1 or 100, not something I typically talk about in public. Cheers.

  • @dennis2376
    @dennis2376 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Welcome back. :) Question how hot would the weapon become after intense firing?Very interesting thank you. Loved the out take. :)

    • @johnmullholand2044
      @johnmullholand2044 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Which one? I would hazard a SWAG that the Snider at least would get as hot as the earlier P-53 after extended firing, and that gets QUITE warm!

    • @britishmuzzleloaders
      @britishmuzzleloaders  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      They get warm. 10 rounds is enough to change the temperature, 20 rounds rapid will make it too hot to hold you hand on the metal.

    • @dennis2376
      @dennis2376 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@britishmuzzleloaders Thank you.

  • @simeongenov7345
    @simeongenov7345 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Keep up the good work rob I am the first one in the comments to tell you so I hope your channel grows further

  • @SKNAZIR-sx1th
    @SKNAZIR-sx1th 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    It's really good condition carbine rifle.Great Job.

  • @keithau8159
    @keithau8159 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Yeah,thanks a lot British muzzle loader,personally never knew about 1870 histories happened in Ontario,Canada,where i lived 35 years ago,studied,grow up and educated in the mid 80 to early 90's at all.Not even the rifles as Billard Carbine at that time produced in States and British Snider mk3 at all.Cheers to all.Cheers theme song.😁😆😅

    • @britishmuzzleloaders
      @britishmuzzleloaders  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Not a commonly known episode in Canadian Military History...

  • @markcooper6736
    @markcooper6736 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    love the video..I have a 52 cal ballard and the same type of ammo .and of course my Canadian snyder carbine .I prefer the snyder. keep up the great work

  • @kenobi90000
    @kenobi90000 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wonderful video as always :)

  • @TheWirksworthGunroom
    @TheWirksworthGunroom 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Fantastic stuff!

  • @McNubbys
    @McNubbys 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Enjoyable as always, sorry my newest(at the time) countrymen were causing headaches lol🤣

  • @biggiouschinnus7489
    @biggiouschinnus7489 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Rob,
    Have been meaning to ask - was the musketry drill and tactical doctrine significantly altered by the transition from muzzleloading to the Snider? Or did the change only begin with the Martini-Henry?

    • @britishmuzzleloaders
      @britishmuzzleloaders  10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thankfully there are videos to explain that very thing… search for “Platoon Exercise” in the Drill Playlist and you’ll L find the appropriate video. As for tactics,.. not initially… but there seems to be a general understanding that extended order is “the way of the future” b even before it’s enshrined in doctrine (for the attack proper) in the 77 book.

    • @biggiouschinnus7489
      @biggiouschinnus7489 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@britishmuzzleloaders Fascinating! I recall you mentioning somewhere that Extended Order was being used as early as Magdala in 1868.

    • @britishmuzzleloaders
      @britishmuzzleloaders  10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@biggiouschinnus7489 extended order was something used for skirmishing exclusively earlier on… as the Victorian era progressed, it’s usefulness and emphasis grew… first we see all companies trained in its use by the 1850s, by the late 1860s it is seen as a bonafide option in circumstances that would have necessitated close order in the days of muzzleloading. By the late 1870s, it’s finally enshrined as the way to fight from the outset…

    • @biggiouschinnus7489
      @biggiouschinnus7489 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@britishmuzzleloaders Thanks, this is really useful! I'm writing an alt-history piece set in this period, so channels like yours and Paper Cartridges are a godsend.

  • @robertsansone1680
    @robertsansone1680 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Can Black Powder be bought/possessed in Canada or do you use a substitute? Another great show. Thanks

    • @britishmuzzleloaders
      @britishmuzzleloaders  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yes you can buy it.

    • @robertsansone1680
      @robertsansone1680 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@britishmuzzleloaders Cool. I got about 10 pounds & I'm hoarding it because it's getting harder to find. Love your shows. P.S. If you stay away from that damned whiskey, (I know how you Canadians are) you wouldn't screw up the end of your shows. Thanks Again, Bob

  • @jeffsmith2022
    @jeffsmith2022 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have to admit, I was totally ignorant of this piece of history...until today, 10/25/'21...

  • @5.7moy
    @5.7moy 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Sure is a nice carbine.

  • @أحمدنضالإسماعيلالحاديعشر4

    what is the difference between no5 jungle carbine and no6 ,,,, and the difference between no7 training and no9 training rifles ??? i am belive on you information , keep going

    • @britishmuzzleloaders
      @britishmuzzleloaders  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Please, I understand that you have questions. I can't be your personal research assistant, I simply don't have the time. The internet is a wonderful place and the information that you seek is out there. In addition, there are many books on the subject. Look for books by Skennerton. They will help.

    • @أحمدنضالإسماعيلالحاديعشر4
      @أحمدنضالإسماعيلالحاديعشر4 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@britishmuzzleloaders thanks for your help

  • @Procket12
    @Procket12 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Interesting that they chose the Ballard instead of something like the Spencer rifle/carbine.

    • @britishmuzzleloaders
      @britishmuzzleloaders  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      There were Spencers, and others as well...

    • @Procket12
      @Procket12 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@britishmuzzleloaders So were weapons of the militia all private purchases as opposed to being issued weapons?

    • @britishmuzzleloaders
      @britishmuzzleloaders  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Procket12 The Militia were armed with government rifles. The Home Guard were not.

  • @RonOhio
    @RonOhio 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I am grateful that my ancestors came to the New World via Virginia. I would hate to be descended from anyone involved in that debacle. That Ballard is a nice sleek little carbine, I can see the attraction, that would be a nice handy little deer rifle.

  • @Irishpewtuber
    @Irishpewtuber ปีที่แล้ว

    It would be fascinating to know how many of the Canadian militia and Red sashes were also of Irish descent. A large number of Irish emigrants sailed to Newfoundland as it was cheaper to land there than Newyork or New Orleans. Can't beat the Irish because they fight on both sides of everything

    • @britishmuzzleloaders
      @britishmuzzleloaders  ปีที่แล้ว

      Not a lot... most of the Townships were populated by Loyalist types.

    • @Irishpewtuber
      @Irishpewtuber ปีที่แล้ว

      @@britishmuzzleloaders there were and are still Irish loyalists. I think you may be judging Irish emigrants by a later standard. They emigrated from what was then Britain to another dominion which was also British and adapted to the new identity as Canadian just as emigrants who went to Louissianna adopted that identity.

  • @Procket12
    @Procket12 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm surprised this didn't cause a huge diplomatic incident between the US and Britain.

    • @britishmuzzleloaders
      @britishmuzzleloaders  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It was a big deal but technically it wasn't the US that was involved...

    • @Procket12
      @Procket12 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@britishmuzzleloaders Was there resentment in Canada towards Britain and the US, due to the fact that people outside of Canada saw Canadians as just more Britons rather than people with their own national identity?

    • @britishmuzzleloaders
      @britishmuzzleloaders  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Procket12 Depends on where you were from I suppose.. lots of complications in Canadian Political history...

  • @Splodge542
    @Splodge542 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Ha ha ha ha ha. I dare say no more. Let's say no more. Thanks Canadian brothers. Happy and glorious. Ever victorious. You are the the Prima Cohorta.

  • @spiderdog762
    @spiderdog762 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Renown is a term that is crowned up these days in th UK.

    • @britishmuzzleloaders
      @britishmuzzleloaders  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      OK.

    • @spiderdog762
      @spiderdog762 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@britishmuzzleloaders don't worry my friend, I am not from the element that would take offence!! I am a great admirer of your excellent work

    • @britishmuzzleloaders
      @britishmuzzleloaders  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@spiderdog762 None taken.

  • @thomassalois3508
    @thomassalois3508 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I would imagine all the fenians were Veterans of the American Civil War

    • @britishmuzzleloaders
      @britishmuzzleloaders  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Certainly in the 1866 Raids, there were a great many who were... By 1870, it stand to reason that there might have been fewer... by the way they advanced at Eccles Hill, I'd say that things had deteriorated considerably.

  • @A14b19
    @A14b19 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    What an interesting little rifle . Now there's a rifle that some manufacturers should make .9 m 38, 357, 45, even .22. Mmmmmmm

  • @ilfarmboy
    @ilfarmboy 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    wonder if a cue card under the camera might help? lol

    • @britishmuzzleloaders
      @britishmuzzleloaders  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah, perhaps, who's going to hold them? who's going to change them?

  • @johnpowell5433
    @johnpowell5433 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I think you could've been a bit more generous with the allowance for 'fiddling' with the round to ensure proper alignment. At a rough estimate I'd say 21 seconds should've been subtracted. Round it down to 20 and call it 95 seconds overall. If my calculations are correct (they may well NOT be) that's 21% faster for the Snider. Either way it was an interesting video, as usual.

    • @britishmuzzleloaders
      @britishmuzzleloaders  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you.

    • @johnpowell5433
      @johnpowell5433 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@britishmuzzleloaders TBH I don't think you've ever made a boring one! :-)

  • @archangel20031
    @archangel20031 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Huge grain of salt in the fact that one or the other may have been better or worse than the average guy from back in the day because when you breathe live and die by that one rifle, you tend to get real fast and reloading and shooting!
    Heck both of them may be poor examples of quick timing because of that.

    • @britishmuzzleloaders
      @britishmuzzleloaders  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Lot's of room for ambiguity, of course... a fun experiment none-the-less.

  • @notarokescientist3003
    @notarokescientist3003 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Being an American I am certain this must have never happened. Certainly they would have discussed it in history class.

  • @danm7298
    @danm7298 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Viewed 6 11 22

  • @cosmicatrophy4648
    @cosmicatrophy4648 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    When will you do a collab with C&Rsenal?

    • @britishmuzzleloaders
      @britishmuzzleloaders  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      When we get a chance. THere's this thing going around right now.

  • @PaletoB
    @PaletoB 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Well it's almost a Marlin. I'm happy with that. 😁

  • @88porpoise
    @88porpoise 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    That is not a firearm I would have ever expected to see on your channel.
    But it would certainly do the job in a pinch.

  • @thebelfastvikingmartinbrow3603
    @thebelfastvikingmartinbrow3603 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    No surrender to the fenians.God save the Queen.😇

    • @britishmuzzleloaders
      @britishmuzzleloaders  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      They certainly caused a ruckus on the Canadian frontier in 1866 and 1870...

  • @gxrzavlogs5188
    @gxrzavlogs5188 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I wonder how many uniforms this man has🤔🤔???

    • @britishmuzzleloaders
      @britishmuzzleloaders  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      There is a whole series on the kit and clothing as used on the Channel...

  • @carrisasteveinnes1596
    @carrisasteveinnes1596 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    The Fenians, pinned down by rifle and carbine fire on the farm, only made their escape once good quantity of potatos had been liberated...

  • @matthabir4837
    @matthabir4837 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    The US Federal government's method of ridding itself of troublesome veterans...

  • @mattyallen3396
    @mattyallen3396 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Dam Irish!

  • @petertimmins3793
    @petertimmins3793 ปีที่แล้ว

    Ballard looks like a toy

  • @TheWhoamaters
    @TheWhoamaters 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    As a man with Irish heritage I've supported the fight against England when they do not involve harming civilians. But, as a Canadian man, stay down on your side of the border. We aren't your hat, and we aren't a bunch of pushovers.

  • @warhawk4494
    @warhawk4494 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Fenian brotherhood? Hahahahah oh those cooky Irish republicans. Hahahahaha

    • @britishmuzzleloaders
      @britishmuzzleloaders  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      They certainly stirred up a hornet's nest in Canada.

    • @warhawk4494
      @warhawk4494 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@britishmuzzleloaders Aye that they did hahaha Didn't the Fenian brotherhood also try too do something similar at the end of the American civil war in Ireland? I swear I remember reading something about a Irish American general leading Irish American union army veterans in land battles on the Irish island against the British army trying to free Ireland from the brits. But lost... .because of lack of financial and material support from America and protestant Irish. Anyways enough rambling about a possible fever dream from my childhood. Great video as usual and have a awesome weekend. ✌️

  • @jgranger3532
    @jgranger3532 3 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    In 1870 General Grant was president, and the American government was on not good terms with either Britian or the Catholic Church, by extension the Fenian Brotherhood. Fenians had been involved in the anti conscription riots in Newyork in 1862.The Pope received an embassy from the Confederates around 1863. Most of the muskets and all of the shoes worn by the Confederates were purchased in the UK. The British textile mill owners had built frigates on credit in Britian for the Confederates. Canada had seen Confederate smuggling of cotton and spying. Grant wasn't worried about the British.The Union had put an army of over a million men in the field in the Civil war. He was willing to let them fight each other. He didn't consider the Fenians Americans. He wanted Congress to budget more money for the army and navy and the Fenians' trouble making gave him an excuse. Neither Britain or Canada were considered allies till the great war.

    • @jgranger3532
      @jgranger3532 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Simon_Nonymous my fault thank you.

    • @Simon_Nonymous
      @Simon_Nonymous 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jgranger3532 no fault, a very good snippet of information I didn't know - thank you

    • @britishmuzzleloaders
      @britishmuzzleloaders  3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Lot's of interesting back stories with this episode in history.

    • @martkbanjoboy8853
      @martkbanjoboy8853 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      The nephew of Alexander Keith was a wanted terrorist notorious for a bombing which at the time was in the press all over the world. Yoy won't see that on the silly Alexander Keiths beer tour.

  • @Rumblestrip
    @Rumblestrip 3 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    Nice blooper reel lol thank you for the chuckle and the info.
    The Ballard was offered up in a previous iteration as a breach loading musket rifle to US Military service. It never made it past trials for several reasons to include, fragility, politics, and the belief that a soldier would expend too much ammunition in combat. The carbine if the same arm was offered independently to the US Cavalry and as I seem to recall, did see some minor service in a few officers hands at their own expense.

  • @ProSimex84
    @ProSimex84 3 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    Oh yes oh yes oh yes, let me grab a pint and settle in. Rob, what would be a reasonable price for a Snyder enfield today in CAD? And are there any resources available to help figure out if it came from one of these initial militia purchases? It's in South Eastern Ontario.

    • @blackpowderburner7296
      @blackpowderburner7296 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Anywhere from $450 for a beat up Cadet to $1500 for a very nice MKII or MKIII. Unit markings are commonly found on the tang of the butt plate. The marking denoting Canadian ownership should also be found on the stock.

    • @ProSimex84
      @ProSimex84 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@blackpowderburner7296 why thank you good sir

    • @britishmuzzleloaders
      @britishmuzzleloaders  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      As already stated.

    • @jacobmarsa4168
      @jacobmarsa4168 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@britishmuzzleloaders Its a shame muzzle loaders and low capacity firearms are the only ones you get your hands on. (I'm assuming due to either personal preference or country). I would love to see you do videos on British firearms and historic battles going into ww1 and ww2.

    • @britishmuzzleloaders
      @britishmuzzleloaders  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jacobmarsa4168 I'm going to say that you haven't explored the Channel much... lot's of Great War and WWII content.

  • @alun7006
    @alun7006 3 ปีที่แล้ว +38

    That Ballard is a neat little thing! Fascinating stuff as always. Thank you to Branko for contributing his knowledge and skills.

    • @brankod495
      @brankod495 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Thanks, it's always fun to help Rob out.

    • @britishmuzzleloaders
      @britishmuzzleloaders  3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Indeed. It was great to have Branko along.

    • @carrisasteveinnes1596
      @carrisasteveinnes1596 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Volley fire only, surely, unless hunting for the pot.

  • @itsapittie
    @itsapittie 3 ปีที่แล้ว +40

    I really enjoy these. Understanding the capabilities and peculiarities of historical firearms can be helpful in answering, "Huh? Why did they do that?" Tactics influence the development of weapons but weapons also influence the development of tactics.

  • @wildrangeringreen
    @wildrangeringreen 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    The later centerfire Ballard Rifles were quite well received as well, so much so that Marlin bought them out and continued making them for many years.

  • @earlshaner4441
    @earlshaner4441 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Hi from Syracuse NY USA brother and thank you for sharing your thoughts and adventures of history and everyone else

  • @backrowbrighton
    @backrowbrighton 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Hi from the UK. Great history lesson and wonderful to see the firearms involved in action. I think by 1870, Britain had withdrawn all its garrison troops leaving Canada to organise its own defence? So this must have been the first true battle for Canadian forces in defending their country on their own?

    • @britishmuzzleloaders
      @britishmuzzleloaders  3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Not all the British Regular Forces had left by 1870... The infantry had, but there would continue to be British Troops in Halifax and Esquimalt only, until the 20th century with the last contingent of Royal Engineers leaving Halifax in 1906, IIRC.

  • @sargedutch1085
    @sargedutch1085 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Great video. I have a Ballard 3 band rifle. It has been converted 45 colt ammo. The rifle is extremely accurate. The bore was relined as the original rifling was gone. My experience it that I can be loaded quickly. No problem with removing the fired cartridge. My load is 20 grains of 3f. The rifle is pure joy to shoot,

  • @Mis-AdventureCH
    @Mis-AdventureCH 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I do hope that Canada understands that in 1866 the US Govt had it's hands full with an occupied confederacy, lack of cash, and growing indian issues on the frontier. This is why such behavior by the Finnians was dealt with more sternly.
    And, realistically, Canadian forces took care of business. Problem solved.

    • @genericpersonx333
      @genericpersonx333 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      The relations between the British Empire and United States of America were far more complicated than that. There were a LOT of Americans who supported the Fenians and other anti-British activities. There were also Canadians and Britons who would not have shed a tear if the USA had collapsed and broken up. British and Americans were not allies in the 1860s, had more conflicts than common causes, and it would not be until well into the 1940s that the two powers would become more friends than rivals.

    • @88porpoise
      @88porpoise 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yeah, the US government was at least tacitly in support of the Fenians. Which isn't a dig at Americans, just a statement of fact. Much in the same way that the British and Canadian governments were supportive of the American rebels shortly before this.

    • @britishmuzzleloaders
      @britishmuzzleloaders  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It's a part of Canadian history, not an obsession with it. :) Hardly anybody knows of it here.

    • @Mis-AdventureCH
      @Mis-AdventureCH 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@britishmuzzleloaders I just thought I'd apologize anyway. :-)

    • @britishmuzzleloaders
      @britishmuzzleloaders  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Mis-AdventureCH Haha!

  • @VosperCDN
    @VosperCDN 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    These videos should come with a warning, not safe for wallet .. as I go off to find yet another rifle that is suddenly on the top of my list.

    • @mikepette4422
      @mikepette4422 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      wish i had the same affliction but sadly my wallet ran away with my credit cards recently

    • @britishmuzzleloaders
      @britishmuzzleloaders  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Haha!

  • @frankdantuono2594
    @frankdantuono2594 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Videos like this are why I sub to this channel. Also why I would totally visit rural Canada 🇨🇦 to hang out with Rob... if he'd have me 😁

  • @keithmoore5306
    @keithmoore5306 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    i was thinking an 8 second adjustment but 10 was probably closer to right! i used to have a Ballard in 44-40 he might want to have a smith look at it mine had a half cock!

  • @theluftwaffle1
    @theluftwaffle1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Ah BC is a beautiful place. When it’s not on fire..

  • @TheArmourersBench
    @TheArmourersBench 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great stuff, thanks Rob & Branko.

  • @matthewn4896
    @matthewn4896 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    It's always a good day when you learn something new, and this was a slice of history that I was hitherto completely unaware of. Stirling work as always, I found Branko very informative and entertaining, I hope we'll see more of him in the future.
    As a side note, seeing you break character and drop the F-bomb in the blooper reel made me laugh more than it probably should have.
    Take care of yourself big fella.

  • @mountainclawoutdoors
    @mountainclawoutdoors 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I really liked the outtakes. Also seeing the civilian "uniform" was interesting. The little known history was great. The audacity of that invasion is hilarious.

    • @britishmuzzleloaders
      @britishmuzzleloaders  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      In retrospect, it was all a bit weird and silly... apart from the actual destruction and death that is...

  • @mikepette4422
    @mikepette4422 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    So armed civilians defended canada in her infancy but now its deemed by way too many Canadians and definitely the so-called "leaders" that 'ewwww guns are baaad ! '
    This just part of the overall weakness of Canada and Canadian people right now and frankly there's not much we can do to change it because way way too many everyday Canadians agree with this sentiment and are seemingly ecstatic with the massive Day Care that Canada has become. Shameful really, gonna blame...Toronto just cause I can

  • @slowhand1198
    @slowhand1198 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Interesting and informative as usual. Not a topic I had been familiar with until your presentations, so additionally welcome. Your quality content is so far above typical drivel available I find it remarkable they haven't banned you yet out of sheer embarrassment, if nothing else.

  • @occasionalmarksman4865
    @occasionalmarksman4865 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    @18:53 I am sorry but Rob is wrong, his score is zero. He failed to count hits on the target using his bayonet, a technical error eliminating the Snider from the match and making the Ballard the finest rifle at the Battle of Maple Syrup. Another brilliantly enjoyable video, well done yet again!

  • @Tadicuslegion78
    @Tadicuslegion78 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Never heard of the Fenian Brotherhood...but it looks like an epic story all on it's own within the saga of the Irish independence movement.

    • @adamsmith9032
      @adamsmith9032 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      If I remember correctly the fenian brothers were a group of so called highway men by us historians that terrorized towns and outposts along the Canadian border. In reality the were just Irish rebels in america

    • @connerymilne6466
      @connerymilne6466 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      And the tale of Canadian history as well

    • @genericpersonx333
      @genericpersonx333 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@adamsmith9032 One of those situations where what you hear depends who you ask. For some, they were Irish heroes. For others, they were just bandits using supposed politics as cover for banditry. Yet others see them as misguided freedom fighters. For sure, the victims of the violence seem to have the least voice in the narrative.

    • @joewilson3575
      @joewilson3575 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@genericpersonx333 I think it's definitely telling that they wore uniforms, bandits typically don't but the fenians were trying to have an air of legitimacy which I think speaks to them having a genuine political cause, especially since lacking government backing it would have been a real challenge to get a uniform produced in the numbers they achieved, so they really strove to attain that look of a proper army fighting a proper cause.

    • @genericpersonx333
      @genericpersonx333 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@joewilson3575 For sure, but mind that many of their uniforms were indeed just American uniforms dyed a new color. US Government gave away or surplussed most of its federal army equipment during the 1860s, which is how a lot of it ended up in the Irish cause. Also of note is that many Fenians were ex-US Soldiers, having intentionally served to get training and connections. Despite the low opinion of Irish people in general as the worst of Humanity, they were a powerful voting bloc that many politicians courted for more influence, especially now that Southern representation was compromised by the recent war. Really a fascinating story, that of the Irish in the New World who couldn't stop looking back to Ireland, dreaming.

  • @firstconsul7286
    @firstconsul7286 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Awesome video once again! I enjoyed seeing the Ballard, and its not-quite-so military origins, which is a interesting off-set to the other rifles on this channel, barring the Ross, of course.

  • @schmit6576
    @schmit6576 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thank you Branco(?) and Rob for this wonderful video.

  • @natpeterson8856
    @natpeterson8856 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    what a slick carbine you got there Branko, and as always your videos is very informative Rob, Cheers.. !

  • @johnfisk811
    @johnfisk811 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Bravo Rob and Branco. Canada rules, huzzah.

  • @jamesthomas5895
    @jamesthomas5895 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Love the Video You bring the history of firearms to life THANK YOU KIND SIR

  • @joeblow9657
    @joeblow9657 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Quite interesting sirs

  • @Dimwit_the_last_mountainman
    @Dimwit_the_last_mountainman 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Impressive video, as usuall! I have also made videos about the Needham conversion rifle, in the hands of the Fenian Brotherhood. And also a dual ignition Ballard rifle. My youtube character "Dimwit - the last mountainman" is a simple man, so the videos are not up to your standards. But you might find them entertaining and interesting anyway. Feel free to check out my playlist, of rare antique guns being shot. I have several that I like to call "ain't been shot in a century" videos. I'm looking forward to see your Needham video!

  • @BrutalHermit
    @BrutalHermit 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Rob is the Bob Ross of historical British arms and I can't get enough!

  • @jeffyoung60
    @jeffyoung60 ปีที่แล้ว

    This was fascinating 'experimental archeology'. Given reasonable time for aiming, the British Snider conversion breechloader was capable of 10 shots per minute, if you allow for the 61 seconds in an earlier Snider speed firing test. If you take the probable average, the Snider was capable of at least 9 shots per minute, given adequate target acquisition and aiming time in a realistic battle scenario. Compare this to the maximum realistic shooting rate of just 3 rounds per minute for the muzzle-loading British Enfield and American Springfield muskets.
    At a ratio of 3 to 1, a Snider-armed British or Canadian soldier was worth three soldiers armed with muzzle-loaders. The same could be said of American soldiers and cavalry armed with the breechloading Allin conversion breechloader.
    The British would increase their firepower with the adoption of the faster-loading Martini-Henry rifle. The Martini-Henry purportedly offered 12 shots per minute, given reasonable time for target acquisition and aiming. In speed-firing trials, the Martini-Henry could achieve 15 plus shots per minute, but this just reflected speed of reloading and firing, not realistic target acquisition and aiming time.
    The post-Civil War U.S. Army had to be content with Allin conversion breechloaders. While the superb Remington Rolling Block breechloader would have matched the Martini-Henry, a parsimonious U.S. Congress demurred. The Remington Rolling Block would find satisfied foreign military and domestic civilian customers.

    • @britishmuzzleloaders
      @britishmuzzleloaders  ปีที่แล้ว

      Lots of Martini and Snider content on the Channel, including a comparison of both, if you are interested. Cheers!

  • @rre9121
    @rre9121 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Luv shootin' me snider.
    Everyone comes to gawk at the range.
    Simple as.