We went with the Outback wilderness, mainly due to the turbo and ride. Got a ‘24 loaded, HK and all the goodies for 38,750 at end of 2023…. Great deal and we love it!
I like the forester this trim looks good but I rather have all one color accent no give me all black on black interior and exterior. When will Subaru bring back a small pickup truck like the brat it’d be cool
I Love my Forester Touring. It’s a 2019 with only 14K miles. The saddle Brown Leather interior is very comfortable and I’ve had a Lot of compliments on it. I HATE the CVT as it robs the Gutless 182hp engine of the horsepower, torque and mpg. Even though is gets better city mpg than my last vehicle, it gets about the same mileage on the freeway. My last car was a 11 Rav 4WD Limited with the 269hp 3.5 V6 and a 5spd geared automatic transmission. The Only reason why I sold my low mileage RAV was to get better mileage, but I was wrong. The redesigned Forester will be offered with the Rav hybrid system, so in 27-28 I’ll sell my current Forester and buy the new Forester Touring Hybrid. The Forester hybrid is supposed to have around 200hp and get 38-40mpg. I looked at a new Rav hybrid Limited before buying my Forester but the Rav was subpar in quality, fit and finish and the engine and road noise was loud. I do have to admit that the Forester is superior in traction. Every fall I had to put studded snow tires on my Rav as we get 5-7 feet of snow every winter. I had to replace the factory tires on my Forester as they were leaking air from the sidewalls. I replaced the tires with Michelin Cross Climate 2 tires. They’re Awesome on dry, wet, slushy, snowy, logging and forest roads. We like them so much that when my wife’s Outback needed new tires, we put a set of the Michelin Cross Climate 2 tires on her car as well. The 24 Forester lost 2hp, so it’s down to a measly 180, but it gained 2 more pound feet of torque.
Outback has the larger screen, but with that, you lose the physical touch buttons for climate control. I prefer to have actual buttons vs trying to touch a screen while driving. Outback has a turbo which helps in high altitude areas. Getting up the mountain to go skiing would be a but easier, however I never had an issue with my older NA subarus. Outback has a longer wheelbase which does have a negative impact when traversing steeper off-road terrain. The outback has a higher price point and the additional maintenance of the turbo. I chose the forester wikderness and am super happy with my purchase.
Hoping that black headliner will grow on me. Otherwise, I'm totally loving it! (I rented a 2022 FW through Turo for 3 days to really check it out before buying. I knew about the CD player, but the black headliner took me by surprise when I picked up my 2024.)
For 2024, the CD player is gone and the metal sport pedals are gone. It looks like the front skid plate has changed and is only partially aluminum, with the rest being black plastic. Can anyone confirm?
I think most people get it for it’s looks lol. It needs a higher lift and better wheels imo, but it tows 3000 which is twice as much as the other trims. Has a full sized spare, and the roof rack holds 800lbs. It’s good for camping basically
I freaking LOVE the newer Subaru's. I have a 2018 Crosstrek Touring that is the easiest to drive and park vehicle I have ever had. The ONE thing that I do not like about it and the new Subaru's is that the dashboard/gauges are exactly the same as in my 2018 Crosstrek. I mean yes they are functional and could be worse but it is the same now very outdated design. The 11 inch LCD screen is well too big. It gets in the way of controls that are lower down. Why are the seat heating controls placed low in between the seats anyways? Gotta take my eyes totally off the road to use them. Okay that is all the negatives I have about it. I REALLY want to get a new full spec Outback. I have two cars that are in perfect condition thus I really do not NEED to have a new Subaru I just really want one. The All Wheel Drive system is in my opinion the BEST AWD system sold today. The Forrester here is hot as well. The CVT in my Crosstrek works perfectly fine. Took a small amount of time to get used to but I did. If I had the money I would gladly buy the entire Subaru line up.
@@angusmacdonald5300 Doesn't seem like it going to happen in 2025. I might go for the Grand Highlander Hybrid. I do like bigger rooms but must have a hybrid engine.
My 1999 Toyota Rav4 is beginning to rust out underneath and I'm devastated. The newer compact SUVS have terrible sight lines. With only 140k miles on my RAV I'm almost tempted to get it restored! 😢
Sorry to hear about your Rav4. That's a shame. Consider restoration or purchasing another vintage model. The electronic-everything in post-2018 cars makes them, at times, almost underivable. Mixed reviews on the Sube CVT too. Heard good things about the Outback Wilderness with the turbo but the Forester w/o the turbo is reportedly a dog.
@@TheLevergunBum After driving my RAV for 25 years I'm finding it hard to leave the brand. I actually liked the Corolla Cross on test drive, but a little slow on acceleration. Thought about the Forrester and its great visibility but they are rust buckets with bad paint. Problem now is even if you want a new Cross there's no inventory. Plenty of electric and hybrid models, low on gas vehicles. Welcome to Biden's America I guess. The batteries on the hybrids are way too expensive to replace, bad for the enviornment and fire hazards. All I want is a fuel efficient reliable compact SUV, like my 1999 Rav. I'm so bummed especially with the car loan rates. 😪
@@mertersun Subaru says. It’s all wheel drive, not 4 wheel drive. 4 wheel drive on a vehicle with that low of a ground clearance would be totally pointless
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I would buy a wrx wilderness.
We went with the Outback wilderness, mainly due to the turbo and ride. Got a ‘24 loaded, HK and all the goodies for 38,750 at end of 2023…. Great deal and we love it!
I like the forester this trim looks good but I rather have all one color accent no give me all black on black interior and exterior. When will Subaru bring back a small pickup truck like the brat it’d be cool
I Love my Forester Touring.
It’s a 2019 with only 14K miles.
The saddle Brown Leather interior is very comfortable and I’ve had a Lot of compliments on it.
I HATE the CVT as it robs the Gutless 182hp engine of the horsepower, torque and mpg.
Even though is gets better city mpg than my last vehicle, it gets about the same mileage on the freeway.
My last car was a 11 Rav 4WD Limited with the 269hp 3.5 V6 and a 5spd geared automatic transmission.
The Only reason why I sold my low mileage RAV was to get better mileage, but I was wrong.
The redesigned Forester will be offered with the Rav hybrid system, so in 27-28 I’ll sell my current Forester and buy the new Forester Touring Hybrid.
The Forester hybrid is supposed to have around 200hp and get 38-40mpg.
I looked at a new Rav hybrid Limited before buying my Forester but the Rav was subpar in quality, fit and finish and the engine and road noise was loud.
I do have to admit that the Forester is superior in traction.
Every fall I had to put studded snow tires on my Rav as we get 5-7 feet of snow every winter. I had to replace the factory tires on my Forester as they were leaking air from the sidewalls.
I replaced the tires with Michelin Cross Climate 2 tires.
They’re Awesome on dry, wet, slushy, snowy, logging and forest roads.
We like them so much that when my wife’s Outback needed new tires, we put a set of the Michelin Cross Climate 2 tires on her car as well.
The 24 Forester lost 2hp, so it’s down to a measly 180, but it gained 2 more pound feet of torque.
I'd be curious to see whats different in the Outback Wilderness. I wanna say they have a bigger screen for the radio
Outback has the larger screen, but with that, you lose the physical touch buttons for climate control. I prefer to have actual buttons vs trying to touch a screen while driving.
Outback has a turbo which helps in high altitude areas. Getting up the mountain to go skiing would be a but easier, however I never had an issue with my older NA subarus.
Outback has a longer wheelbase which does have a negative impact when traversing steeper off-road terrain.
The outback has a higher price point and the additional maintenance of the turbo.
I chose the forester wikderness and am super happy with my purchase.
Looking at getting one in the next month or two, after my VIP kicks in!!
Hoping that black headliner will grow on me. Otherwise, I'm totally loving it! (I rented a 2022 FW through Turo for 3 days to really check it out before buying. I knew about the CD player, but the black headliner took me by surprise when I picked up my 2024.)
We HATE the dark interior, so that’s why we bought the Touring. We Love the Saddle Brown Leather interior.
My wife’s Outback has Ivory interior
The mirrors power fold in?? I don’t think so
People used to hate the crab claw tail lights - I think they’ve aged well.
Why are tail lights made so vulnerable? Lots of "off road" types leave the headlights and tail lights hanging out and easy to bash. Shield them, eh?
For 2024, the CD player is gone and the metal sport pedals are gone.
It looks like the front skid plate has changed and is only partially aluminum, with the rest being black plastic.
Can anyone confirm?
For the extra money that you spend on the Wilderness pkg, how often do people actually take their vehicles off road?
I think most people get it for it’s looks lol. It needs a higher lift and better wheels imo, but it tows 3000 which is twice as much as the other trims. Has a full sized spare, and the roof rack holds 800lbs. It’s good for camping basically
Plus it has a front view camera and a bit better low Rev torque
@@angusmacdonald5300 And worse fuel economy.
The XT gets better fuel economy than the Wilderness.
Really great SUV❤
I freaking LOVE the newer Subaru's. I have a 2018 Crosstrek Touring that is the easiest to drive and park vehicle I have ever had. The ONE thing that I do not like about it and the new Subaru's is that the dashboard/gauges are exactly the same as in my 2018 Crosstrek. I mean yes they are functional and could be worse but it is the same now very outdated design. The 11 inch LCD screen is well too big. It gets in the way of controls that are lower down. Why are the seat heating controls placed low in between the seats anyways? Gotta take my eyes totally off the road to use them.
Okay that is all the negatives I have about it. I REALLY want to get a new full spec Outback. I have two cars that are in perfect condition thus I really do not NEED to have a new Subaru I just really want one. The All Wheel Drive system is in my opinion the BEST AWD system sold today. The Forrester here is hot as well. The CVT in my Crosstrek works perfectly fine. Took a small amount of time to get used to but I did. If I had the money I would gladly buy the entire Subaru line up.
Waiting for Forester Hybrid next year. Will trade in my Ascent for a better mpg one.
Looks like the hybrid will not happen in 2025 now. Probably 2026 model
@@angusmacdonald5300 Doesn't seem like it going to happen in 2025. I might go for the Grand Highlander Hybrid. I do like bigger rooms but must have a hybrid engine.
Does it have a passenger power seat
My 1999 Toyota Rav4 is beginning to rust out underneath and I'm devastated. The newer compact SUVS have terrible sight lines. With only 140k miles on my RAV I'm almost tempted to get it restored!
😢
For some reason Toyotas always rust out. Not sure why
Sorry to hear about your Rav4. That's a shame. Consider restoration or purchasing another vintage model. The electronic-everything in post-2018 cars makes them, at times, almost underivable. Mixed reviews on the Sube CVT too. Heard good things about the Outback Wilderness with the turbo but the Forester w/o the turbo is reportedly a dog.
@@TheLevergunBum After driving my RAV for 25 years I'm finding it hard to leave the brand. I actually liked the Corolla Cross on test drive, but a little slow on acceleration.
Thought about the Forrester and its great visibility but they are rust buckets with bad paint.
Problem now is even if you want a new Cross there's no inventory. Plenty of electric and hybrid models, low on gas vehicles. Welcome to Biden's America I guess.
The batteries on the hybrids are way too expensive to replace, bad for the enviornment and fire hazards.
All I want is a fuel efficient reliable compact SUV, like my 1999 Rav.
I'm so bummed especially with the car loan rates. 😪
39k!? Wow
You’ll need to Wax the wheels on the Wilderness because they scratch very easily.
$39,500 😂 not even 4 wheel drive. You can get a 4 wheel drive 4Runner SR5 for only 3k more. And the 4Runner is full sized, unlike this
Who says it is not 4wd?
@@mertersun Subaru says. It’s all wheel drive, not 4 wheel drive. 4 wheel drive on a vehicle with that low of a ground clearance would be totally pointless
I have looked at both. Sr5 is 45, forester 34. Probably go with forester. Not as good off-road, better in a snow and highway.
It's not 4WD and it's not AWD it's gimmick wheel drive pointless wheel drive not much better than a FWD car
@RayHogarth It literally has a driveshaft powering the rear wheels.
My naturally aspirated 6cyl 4WD pickup is quicker than my Forester