This is the WILDEST music I know
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- What's the wildest piece of music you know? How Wild can music get? Is there a limit? Death Metal seems pretty wild, can it get wilder than that? Let's find out!
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Thanks to everyone who submitted a video answering the question 'What's the wildest piece you know' - I loved including everyone and was only sorry I couldn't include more. If you'd like to be involved in future participatory things like that do follow me on twitter (@davidbruce) or instagram (@davidbrucecomposer).
Thanks for the video! A particular band/collective that I'd have loved to see here is IGORRR - Barrock, heavy metal, Opera, Electronic music and much more all combined into one wild experience. I don't have a particular tune to recommend but they made an awsome making of of their last album "spirituality and distorion" I can't recommend it enough! th-cam.com/video/m0B4Zddc9j0/w-d-xo.html
Another two cent's - when you mentioned the mechanic/automatic piano - this would have been a good place to also mention all the developments of electronic music - say skrillex or what not :) I love your videas thank you for all the awsome work and introducing me so so many great artists while making me laugh, smile and gereally enjoy myself :)
Your teacher was Birtwistle?
The best harpejos music
Dude, it's Original Sin - Therapy >>> th-cam.com/video/zGX0cz6D2oI/w-d-xo.html
charming fella, great content.
I think the Große Fuge is pretty wild. It sounds like Beethoven hurled himself through Bach and landed on his head in 1915.
One of my all time favorites
Will definitely check that out!
Indeed. If someone played it to me and asked to guess the composer... I would've said Schnittke rather than Beethoven. :-)
So wild ! (I enjoy the arrangement for two pianists too! Cacophonous & wonderful and i totally agree with the Bach analogy, like a bad tempered clavier!)
incredible piece
My favorite wild music has probably got to be death grips. So gritty and stark, yet so damn groovin
Ah I knew someone would beat me to it. Yeah I was gonna suggest "Hot Head" off of Bottomless Pit. The lyrics alone deserve a mention.
I just listened to it. Quite good! Thanks!
The Rite of Spring must surely be mentioned. A ballet about sacrificial virgins which caused a riot at the premier; nothing tops that.
You could add this to the criteria of wildness: name a piece which caused a riot in its first performance.
It‘s over a hundred years old, anyone over the age of 10 has heard it any number of times, yet a good performance of The Rite of Spring is perfectly capable of sending shock waves throughout the body! There seems to be some thought that the riot at the premiere was not as extreme as reported, perhaps a setup to push ticket sales - but it‘s too good a story to debunk!
Another wild piece: Prokofiev‘s Toccata! A certain amount of that is probably amazement that anyone can play the damn thing! Yet plenty do.
The Rites of Spring is a gateway drug. ;)
One of my favorites. Eternally magnificently wild.
good choice
The wildest piece is clearly John cage's 4'33" played on a giant construction site during a tornado.
Camellia and the Hyperpop genre are so close to the edge of noise sometimes, it's incredibly wild and fantastic.
If you are interested in Camellia and Hyperpop, you may also want to check out the genre Mashcore. Very wild stuff going on there hehehe
Another great example is early Easyfun. Shrek 5 is arguably wilder than those plunderphonic 100 Gecs pieces, and you can dance to Shrek 5
I can't with that stuff, it makes my ears tired after a minute.
Everything is just right up front all at once.
@@minmax5 Is it back in fashion? I used to blast Here I Go Again by Toecutter all the time. Geordie Salvation might be my fave track off it
@@vwnb I'm a huge fan of toecutter, prob my favorite mashcore artist. i've noticed quite a few underground breakcore artists dipping their toes into mashcore in the past couple years, im not sure i'd say it's back in fashion? but there certainly is a resurgence to some degree. There have been more mashcore albums documented as released this year and the year prior on rate your music than any time in the past!
This is likely connected to the overall expansion of the breakcore scene which has happened in the past couple years.
What comes up to me for its wildness…
- Ferneyhough - La Terre est un Homme
- Schnittke - Overture from Gogol Suite, Mvt.2 ‘Toccata’ from Concerto Grosso
- Rouse - Gorgon
- George Crumb - “Music of the Apocalypse” from Star-Child
- Xenakis - Most of his orchestral pieces
- Peter Maxwell Davies - 8 Songs for a Mad King
Good to see someone mention Schnittke here. For me his first symphony takes the top spot, being an ultimate exploration of wildness, fun, and intensity, combining pretty much everything you could think of in music in ways almost unimaginable, both seriously and not.
Xenakis, agreed 100% still cant understand a thing about Herma
thank you for the list! will try to look for the music. Come to think of it : Rouse wasn't there a sax player by that name .. played with McCoy Tyner?
A lot of moments from Captain Beefheart’s _Trout Mask Replica_ come to mind. And in a sense the music of The Shaggs - completely free of “what you’re supposed to do in music”. (Hah! I made this comment a couple of minutes before you mentioned both. Great minds think alike!)
Love both lol The Residents are great too, but in a much different style
Came here for the Shaggs!!
Ohh yeah. Captain beef heart is wild for sure.
Fast and bulbous! Bulbous also tapered.
I really like free improvisation/free jazz; it's undoubtedly wild and wonderful. So I would like to recommend everyone two albums: one is Otomo Yoshihide's New Jazz Orchestra's 'Out to Lunch' (a rendition of Eric Dolphy's album), and Zeitkratzer's 'The shape of jazz to come' (an album of standards by a german ensemble which usually focuses on more contemporary music. It is unrelated to Ornette Coleman's album of the same name). I love both albums and I hope you like them too
My first thought would be something by Cardiacs - either The Duck and Roger the Horse, or Eat It Up Worms Hero. They have the compositional intricacy of prog rock, but the energy and intensity of punk or metal. The songs are, on first listen, completely unpredictable, changing key, time signature, and volume without warning. Cardiacs are my standard answer whenever someone asks me what's the weirdest music I like.
One of the best bands out there. Tim Smith was a genius!
Dirty Boy is a pretty good example of the Wild Stubbornness (or possibly Intense Focus On One Sound), with that impossibly extended choral dominant 7th that lasts long past every musician listening to it has ground their teeth down to nubs waiting for it to resolve, and then...
Definitely unpredictable; amazingly listenable; endlessly fascinating; uniquely inventive
Thinking the same thing, wild but brilliant music
When I first heard Bitches Brew as a teenager in 1969 or 1970, I thought it was just unorganized noise. But with repeated listens due to my and my friends' quest to be cool, it grew on me. Now I wouldn't be surprised to hear it in an elevator.
Meredith Monk deserves a mention for wildest music. I would LOVE a David Bruce episode on Meredith Monk. She really deserves to be better known. Two songs to start with: Madwoman's Vision and Gotham Lullaby.
I absolutely love reading through the comments and seeing all the different interpretations of wildness in all imaginable musical styles.
Always amusing that Death Metal is seen as the wild end of music. Even Metalheads would easily and quickly point to Grindcore as far more against the grain, whilst still having the distorted guitars and heavy drums and gutteral growls. Death Metal is a pretty solid and straight forwards style of music, in the range of all that is music.
I think one of my favourite bands for being wild, in my consideration, is Unexpect. Which, as the name implies, defies expectation. Until you've heard it a thousand times, of course. But that first listen hits you like a bus.
How the hell did I not think of Unexpect? I've been sitting here racking my brain trying to think of the wildest song I know. Intense? easy. Wild? Not how I would describe a lot of this stuff.
Unexpect though, yeah, that's it. But which song? When the Joyful Dead are Dancing?
I feel like there are some highly experimental death metal bands which can provide a very real sense of wildness, Uzumaki being my go-to, but that's more in how they defy the expectations of the genre than in how they exemplify it.
In terms of personal wildness in extreme metal, the collapse into pure chaos on the untitled final track of grind/sludge titans Burmese's Lun Yurn, which is significantly longer than the rest of the album combined, is probably tops, although I would also point to certain particularly grotesque depressive black metal bands, specifically early Todesstoß and Sortsind, as having a genuinely unhinged and inhuman sound to them.
@@ConvincingPeople Death Metal gets put together with a lot of other things to form microgenres and fusion genres. But in itself, and in the form that David even points to in this vid, has a straightforwards sound. It's quite tight and structured. Its complexity is in its performance, not its musicality. It can be technically and physically difficult. But musically, its most wild feature is its oft atonality. Which is a low bar for being considered wild.
I would agree in Unecpect here with you
Unexpect is great. I'd also nominate Igorrr, which careens back and forth between genres at the drop of a hat, from death metal to breakcore to operatic arias, swing, polka, pretty much anything.
I'm going to have to say the entire "Calculating Infinity" album by The Dillinger Escape Plan. I've never heard anything else that even approaches the intensity and chaos of that whole album. Especially when you see live performances.
Honorable mention: "You Won't Get What You Want" by Daughters. Though not the most chaotic, or panicked album (see above), it induces an intense state of panic and chaos in me when listening. For best results, turn it up loud in a room with the lights off, and listen start to finish.
Great choice :D
Bro i immediately thought of dillinger too especially sonething like pig latin with mike patton
Obscura by Gorguts?
Check out DollMeat by MouthBreather, Our Puzzling Encounters Considered by Psyopus, Nano-Nucleonic Cyborg Summoning by Behold... the Arctopus!, and Meta by Car Bomb
I've been listening a ton to King Gizzard and the Lizard Wizard's new album Omnium Gatherum. It's wild to me how many genres of music they cram onto a single album and all done at a high level.
ME TOO!!! I love that Microtonal stuff! I've order their Flying Microtonal Banana! Can't wait to get it!
In that department I recommend to you (if you haven't heard it already) Disco Volante from Mr Bungle.
A wildly eclectic and disappointing band. Tried listening to them two or three years ago, never again.
great album
The names are wild enuf.
When John Coltrane performed Vigil live in Comblain La Tour in 1965... The beginning when it is a duet with the drummer, that dialogue between sax and drums is just so powerful. And then it transcends when piano and bass join in. The wildest music!
“Machine Gun” by Peter Brötzmann. I can 100% guarantee that listening to it all the way through in one sitting is one of the freakiest and most disturbingly beautiful musical experiences you may ever have!
For me it's the peak of European free jazz, wonderful album
@@wojciechdraminski3035 absolutely!
It would have been really cool to hear Bruce discuss freely-improvised music. There’s a whole tradition of music making that, in my opinion, is quite a bit wilder than anything on this list. But a great video nonetheless!
i read "Machine gun" and thought you meant hendrix but still i thought that was pretty wild too
RIP Peter.
For me there are two "moments" in the pop era that depicts very well the ideia of wild: Jimi Hendrix playing live, which is the wild meaning "savage", and the instrumental mess in A Day in the Life, meaning "there's no rules".
Hendrix' "Star Spangled Banner" might go down as one of the wildest performances. It wasn't just taking the old and familiar and injecting it with the unexpected, it was almost like it peeled back skin and exposed the organs of what that song truly meant in a more chaotic, dissonant time and place. He managed to turn a song made for praising a country into a thorough thrashing of it. I have nothing but respect for him.
Yeah, Hendrix. 'Wild' suggests throwing off the shackles of civilised order and just expressing yourself animalistically.
I've never seen a musician so uninhibited. It's sexual, it's violent, it's instinctive... When he fucks his guitar and lights it on fire, that doesn't feel an exaggeration of his music.
[Now that I think of ritual sacrifice, the energy in Rite of Spring is truly wild as well.]
Shostakovich 4 is definitely his most wild symphony.
Thanks for the Turangalîla shoutout! I think musical wilderness can go many ways - on one hand you have artists like Daedelus and Daisuke Tanabe who go to great lengths to micro-engineer a texture to the songs they produce. On the other, it's so fun to see bands like Sigur Rós or composers like Messiaen who wind you up with the sheer mass of their compositions. Stay wild, folks!
I've seen a few comments mention this but Pulse Demon by Merzbow is literally 75 minutes of ear-shredding static and feedback; basically an entire album of exactly the kind of sounds you usually avoid in music production like the plague.
Also, in terms of stretching the definition of what music even is: Homotopy To Marie by Nurse With Wound. The first track, called "I Cannot Feel You as the Dogs are Laughing and I am Blind", is three minutes of metal crinkling sound, followed by five minutes of groans, then three minutes three minutes of chewing sounds. For best results, listen with the lights off.
I was thinking the same thing, or rather the whole japanoise scene in general. A personal favourite is Hanatarash: th-cam.com/video/L7p_C9OlN40/w-d-xo.html&ab_channel=RoiloGolez
sorry but Pulse Demon is fuckin entry level Merzbow
@@mnchls Oh, go on, then; enlighten me. I know you're gagging to.
I was thinking of Alec Empire & Merzbow CBGB New York live watching this.
@@dmrfnk Just listened to that; the first track had a descernable melody and drums. Get this pop bullshit out of here; I want _noise._
Lots of people have mentioned stuff I thought of, but two bands/artists I haven't seen mentioned would be British industrial black metal band Anaal Nathrakh and French experimental producer Igorrr.
Anaal Nathrakh's music may not be as "brutal" as some others, but especially their older stuff is _extremely intense._ The first time I heard "The Supreme Necrotic Audnance", I was floored by the massive sound and sheer violence of the vocals, on a completely different level than most death/black metal or grindcore vocalists. They also slip into noise music at times, it's fascinating.
Igorrr on the other hand is... odd. He mixes breakcore, black metal, baroque music, classical, jazz, triphop, operatic vocals mixed with guttural screams, and some properly odd stuff like putting a bunch of seed on a toy piano and recording the sound of hens pecking at it. And yet, it somehow works and is entirely listenable (and in my opinion, very good!) Some of my choices for songs by Igorrr would probably be "Tout Petit Moineau", "My Chicken's Symphony", "Cheval", and "Biquette" (feat. Ruby My Dear). :)
One song I came to think about a bit later is "The Most Unwanted Song" by Komar and Melamid, composed by David Soldier. It's a bit of a joke, where they surveyed a bunch of people asking them to identify what they enjoy least and most in music, then created the most wanted and most unwanted songs they could. It mashes together a rapping opera soprano with cheap drum machine loops, bagpipes, polka, "cowboy music", a children's choir urging the listener to shop for various holidays at Wal-Mart, commentary on the philosophy of Wittgenstein, and political slogans shouted through a bullhorn. "The Most Wanted Song" is also fascinating, but much less wild, haha. Both are also quite interesting perspectives on popular music tastes in 1997.
I also remembered that the entire genre of lowercase exists, which consists of recordings of near-silence that have been extremely amplified until you can hear the tiniest noises. One of the most well-known albums in the genre is Steve Roden's "Forms of Paper", which applies this process to him handling sheets of paper.
And continuing on with conceptual wildness, another genre really pushing the limits would be "danger music", which truly lives up to its name.
I absolutely love Igorrr. Came down here to mentioned him
Just fyi, if you want the italics to work properly, there needs to be a space after the second underscore, so the full stop should be inside the underscores.
@@EdenLippmann Thanks! Fixed. :)
Wildest song I know is *SDSS1416+13B (Zercon, a Flagpole Sitter)* by Scott Walker. It's an absolutely insane, 21-minute masterpiece that skeeves me out every time I think about it - it's so out-there in the most inconceivable ways to me. I've definitely heard more complex songs before and since, but A Flagpole Sitter just goes for it so hard that it can't not take that top spot of "weirdest song I've ever heard."
I was also going to mention Scott Walker's later albums. Definitely "mysterious wild" for me. I'm completely enraptured by those albums.
This comment introduced me to Scott Walker and after I listened his last 3 albums, I came back from that dark and funny dimension with a new perspective, it changed the way I percieve music now, as a listener and as a composer. Thank you. Now I know the source, the well of ideas from which my personal influences (Bowie, Peter Gabriel, Steven Wilson, Mikael Akerfeldt, Roger Waters, Leonard Cohen) had been drinking on.
@@mar.pequen I'm glad I could be of service! I will say, it's worth noting that his albums from the 60's are much, much more normal than his later work, so it's unlikely that the SUPER weird stuff ended up influencing those people you mentioned. his earlier stuff is definitely still worth checking out though if you haven't
Black midi stuff bewilders me by its ability to sound conventionally good in some aspect while literally making laser sounds out of a piano. The few black midi renditions of Akasha by xi that are around on youtube just absolutely blow my mind.
Expected you would mention 4'33''.
It's a classic, still kinda wild
In terms of pure wildness, I would have to say Merzbow - Pulse Demon album
Japanoise definitely boils the rules in acid
Pulse Demon and Animal Magnetism are probably two of my favourite noise albums. Intense.
Igorr's Hallelujah is the first thing that came to my mind reading the title of this video. I love a good chicken solo
Shostakovich's 4th and 2nd symphonies are pretty wild!
Le Toit Du Monde - Gorguts. It is death metal but it's also one of the most intensely immersive experiences, still leaves me feeling absolutely bewildered, almost distraught, and I've been listening to it almost every week for 9 years since it first came out. Hell, the entire Coloured Sands album is its own unique experience.
Good choice, their album Obscura was the first metal album that actually startled me
Amazing record but I concur: Obscura is definitely more unhinged
omg the first tome I see a gorguts fan in the wild. been a massive fan since colored sands!
Colored Sands is 100% one of the best albums of the 2010s. Maybe even the 2000's as a whole. Maybe ever.
I would say Threnody to the Victims of Hiroshima by Penderecki. Not only is it wild in the sense of going against commonplace musical structure and expectation, it chooses to tackle a very upsetting real event and really drive home the horrors of it. I's say it's wild in the sense that it takes something we wouldn't like to think about and places it center stage
Gotta say Schnittke's 1st Symphony, just an hour of stopping every 30 seconds to ask yourself what on earth you are listening to.
That one's great! So eclectic. :)
I was gonna say either Penderecki’s Threnody, Miles Davis’s On the Corner, or Dillinger Escape Plan’s Calculating Infinity, but reading these comments, I realize there’s a LOT of wildness I need to explore (or had forgotten and need to re-explore!)
5 minutes in and I already know this is a video I’m gonna have to revisit many, many times!
Absolutely golden!
Thank you so much, David!
Penderecki is pretty insane. Found him through Greenwood's work on There Will Be Blood...Threnody has to be the most terrifying piece I've ever heard.
The opening section of Beethoven's Grosse Fugue is absolutely crazy wild.
Great video! If I were to add one aspect into the conversation, it would be wildness in sound design / production. IDM/Glitch/Breakcore music has been pushing that boundary for a while now. The wildest stuff I can think of right now is Dariacore, a genre consisting of hyperspeed song mashups with over the top synths, bass, and drums that is genuinely enjoyable to listen to. Not wild for wildness sake, but pushing the boundaries of music for the love of music.
There are also artists like kobaryo and m1dy who are pushing the speeds of music creation
I love how modern production has been influenced by breakcore, glitch and even nightcore
Saw the video title and Hocus Pocus by Focus was the first thing to pop in my head. Yodeling, Whistling, and just manic energy through out.
The Mingus big band can have a very wild and crazy sound with a lot of players doing something different but still in conversation. Haitian fight song and Moanin are good examples of this
Mingus was very heavily influenced by Dixieland and other Earlier styles of Jazz, and he tried to work in the simultaneous improvisation mentioned at 9:39 in this vid. The Mingus Big band pay homage to this...but with an entire big band.
A few come to mind; Jonchaies by Iannis Xenakis, Threnody for the Victims of Hiroshima by Penderecki, Aberinkula and Drunkship of Laterns by The Mars Volta, Alucard by Gentle Giant, Sugar and Vicinity of Obscenity by System of a Down, Nasty Habits by Oingo Boingo, Micro Cuts by Muse, Out of the Grave by Sigh, The Holy Drinker by Steven Wilson, Aumgn by CAN, Bring the Sun by Swans, The Girl in the Magnesium Dress by Frank Zappa, and Seven Words by Sofia Gubaidulina, and lastly, the band that took the peak intensity of Cannibal Corpse and did something different with it, it would be The Leper Affinity by Opeth.
I fucking love opeth, but they're not that wild, Gorguts' Obscura is the one.
Also I know it's the metal elitist in me, but the way you worded that, that made it seem that cannibal corpse was somehow the most intense death metal band ever, really bugged me... But anyways...
I'm going to go with Glenn Branca, Symphony No. 6 (Devil Choirs at the Gates of Heaven) as the wildest music I actually listen to by choice, though I was tempted by the rapid changes of John Zorn's Naked City, and if I didn't qualify it with "willing to listen to it by choice", I might pick The Resident's Third Reich 'n' Roll. (This comment made before watching the video, as requested.)
Deathstorm (Maruosa & Bong-Ra) - We Are Deathstorm
nothing has ever beaten that.
I will nominate Lost Rivers by Sainkho Namtchylak, a female Tuvan singer. Compared to a lot of examples in the video that are loud and cacophonous, it is just a single voice, however the quality of the voice is freaking wild (go have a listen you would agree). The wildest part for me is the simultaneous difference and harmony between the intent and the actual realisation - the intent being mourning the lost rivers of her homeland and advocate for environmentalism, and the realisation of noises and cries strengthens that perfectly. A truly amazing listening experience.
Thanks!
Before looking at other comments I also first thought of Merzbow's Pulse Demon. But for me the wildest piece that is more "comprehensible" that I periodically revisit is Karlheinz Stockhausen's Helicopter Quartet.
I mean as an adult probably Threnody or some of Cage's work but I want to highlight as a younger man, a dyed in the wool metalhead at that (which means I learned a lot about human culture as a teenager THROUGH metal, not learned it outside of metal and then rediscovered it within a metal context) I think a seminal 'wild' piece of music that I still resonate with is the Austin Texas band Watchtower, their second album 'Control and Resistance' that came out in 1989 was definitely wild. It gave birth to the whole progressive metal thing, obviously, and today we could go back and listen to that music and classify it as some sort of fusion. And there's a *lot* of wild fusion, like proper jazz/rock/world music fusion that is wilder than anything any metal band could came up with.
But 'wild' is about context, and in heavy metal context, against the conservativism of most rock music trope, Watchtower were fucking wild and they still sound wild. It's not just the riffs and compositions actually, it was their attitude and extra-musical elements that also gave that impression, such as, teenagers wearing USSR t-shirts during the cold war in Texas (even ironically, that's quite a statement!), the punk sense of humour that is antithetical to heavy metal seriousness, and of course the fact that they play this hypercomplex, flowing sort of metal but they're not robust and muscular at all, the drummer sounds like they're half improvising a song they don't remember, yet he's still in pocket. Control and Resistance captures the feel of the late end of the cold war perfectly, the musical programme and the thematic programme are in sync. Now we're heading towards more cold war terror, so the lyrics sound more prescient than ever.... sadly.
It was a more abstract, complex and open to interpretation and mood kind of metal music that simply didn't exist before Watchtower invented it. It will always be the 'wildest shit' in my heart even now I have a broader musical horizon.
Thank you for asking, David! You are a class act.
oh, and thank you very much for a very entertaining little show! Would have loved to hear the examples in full length but you put the adresses in the stuff below the window. Thank you again!
I'm so happy you cited Liturgy! The level of rage they inspire in purist metalheads is a sure sign they are breaking fences.
It is wild to me how metal begot the kinds of puritanism it has. Punk has loads of gatekeeping, but not for sound the same way. I think the closest equivalent is like bluegrass purists. Honestly I think it comes from that kind of instrumentalist nerdery that comes with obsessive technical pursuit. Occasionally it crops up in mainline rock, like in "The Rock Bible"
The wildest music I know is probably Gorgon by Christopher Rouse, its very vast paced and dissonant, and it moves between ideas rapidly. It's a work in 3 movements with these percussion breaks in between each movement, which adds to the overall chaotic atmosphere.
Amazing list! I would propose Philip Glass's Opera "Einstein On The Beach" as a wonderful example of "wildness through repetition / composition", in a pretty transcendent musical depiction of genius and the miracle of consciousness.
even more fun is Richard Truhlar's "Glass On The Beach", an obvious homage but performed entirely with extended vocal techniques
@@jwc3o2 That sounds amazing! Do you know where it's available - can't seem to find it available anywhere on the internet, for purchase or streaming! Thanks :)
This was my thought, exactly.
This video is pretty wild, well done. I've learned and discovered so much, thank you
Love this video. I never really thought about different ways music could be “wild.”
Also every time Dorian shows up in your videos it just melts my heart, such a cute little character ❤️
Glad to see Nancarrow on the list, he was one of my first thoughts. Lots of my other ideas on closer listening weren't particularly wild. Intense, yes, but you'd struggle to call them wild in the same way that the pieces on your list are! Surprised no one mentioned any specifically aleatoric pieces though.
Wildest for me is pretty much anything from John Zorn's project Naked City. Seems that they recorded a bunch of sessions to explore exactly this idea... How wild can it get - pretty wild... and also the idea of using contrast with nearly normal snippets of coherence to stop you becoming completely desensitised to the wild crazy parts.
Not sure which track to suggest though...maybe Snagglepuss?
The live shows where they bring on Yamantaka Eye to do vocals are easily the farthest I've ever seen jazz get pushed.
@@tjenadonn6158 Been wading through a lot of answers here to find any mention of Yamantaka Eye or, for that matter Hanantarash
I also think of his Cobra performances as the perfect example of controlled chaos. Using a bunch of cue cards and miscellaneous headgear he's at the centre of the stage telling the players when to play, but not what to play. I wouldn't say it's sonically pleasant but as an audio-visual experience it's really interesting to watch.
His Electric Masada project also does that sort of thing in a more controlled setting, particularly Hath Arob on Disc 2 of At the Mountains of Madness, that for me is as wild as it gets.
"Dead Dread" and "NY Flat Top Box" for me. I saw him performing the Naked City stuff in 1990 when it was released and half the audience walked out after the first two songs. He told them they could get their money back at the box office as they left. Those of us who remained had a great time.
A very enjoyable video, David bravo!
This video is so well documented and edited. Big thanks and big bravo!
Spike Jones is near the top of the list of wild music. Every note is played to perfection but with out of left field instruments.
some of the best hocketing around besides!
Either general power electronics, Grindcore and it's derivatives, or one specific classically and jazz influenced death metal album, Imperative Imperceptible Impulse by Ad Nauseum. It's got right left ear dissonance, and all kinds of crazy shit. It's great, genuinely, and feels more like jazz than metal sometimes.
seconding the power electronics, something about Ramleh makes my hair stand up
Pleasant surprise to see Imperative Imperceptible Impulse being mentioned here. I actually found out about this channel because their vocalist/one of the guitarist is subscribed to it ahah
I love that there’s so much on TH-cam now taking theory based thinking and using it to try to understand why things work and derive new understandings. So much of theory is often presented as ironclad rules and that breaking them is bad but I think this kind of thing is exactly what makes theory so valuable.
Thank you for making this kind of content
Thank you for a great video!
*Cheval* from Igorrr and *Threnody for the Victims of Hiroshima* from Penderecki are among the wildest musical pieces I know.
A particularly wild band to check out is Clown Core. And their album/video Van is interesting to watch too.
Stravinsky: Rite of Spring, with the lights OFF. Caused a riot at its premiere in Paris 1913 and still stands out today, its wild relentless and asymetric rhythmic drive and dissonance, deliberately evoking a wild Pagan and ancient ceremony that scandalised Polite Parisian sensibilities and expectations
Back in the Eighties I was involved in a meditation group that imported rituals and meditations from various cultures. One striking moment for me was meditating to Tibetan Water Music. (I can't find anything online near it but instead I'm getting results for all sorts of 'soothing' new age sounds.) This 'music' was an intentional cacophony of noises, some sounding like the roar of an elephant alongside arrhythmic pulses from crashing gongs, wood blocks being struck and so on. It slowly faded in and then slowly faded out after it reached a peak for about five minutes or so. It was the avant-garde-est of avant garde music I'd ever heard. The intention, according to what we were told, was to clear out and purify the mind of thoughts. I wish I could find an example online but I simply can't. Everyone seems to think that Tibetans are all about gentle, soothing, meditating culture, and that's all the internet is presenting.
found one for you: th-cam.com/video/29SySL779_s/w-d-xo.html and another th-cam.com/video/L42AnSAdzXw/w-d-xo.html It is a deliberately discordant cacophony, played with drums, cymbals, and horns.
I find the question itself a little hard to get to grips with. I'm strongly tempted to say Tallis' Spem in Alium, though I can't think of any way to defend that choice to others. But while I was a maths student I used to use Skinny Puppy as my studying music, because it would thoroughly overload the parts of my brain that deal with the concrete, and leave me in a better state to process abstractions.
I think (my maths background is showing again here) that there's a great deal of duality in play: I often find big-C Classical music irritating because I can predict it too successfully, and randomness relaxing because I can, as it were, bathe in it. Intensity is found in some middle ground where I am actively tracking a lot of ideas without being too completely defeated…?
Spem in Alium is wild in a "hold my beer" sense. I sympathise with your thought.
"Windowlicker" by Aphex Twin is pretty wild. "John McLaughlin" from "Bitches Brew" by Miles Davis is very wild. "Hajnal" by Venetian Snares gets a bit wild. "The Litanies of Satan" by Diamanda Galas is also quite wild. It's a wild world, just ask The Birthday Party as they "Blast Off!".
This was a fantastic video and I need to see share it and see it again.
Superb! Comprehensive and funny, as usual!
There's this moment in Shostakovich' violin concerto I really love and that I think fits some of the wildness criteria. It's a couple of minutes into the second movement, when the orchestra is heard in full force for the first time in the concerto. It's a big happy tutti, including percussion and a xylophone plonking away but there is something that makes it feel completely over the top, something insincere, like the music is just pretending. Especially after the dark and slow first movement, that just seems to drag itself forward for over 10 minutes. Add to that the dense texture, uneven rythm and technical virtuosity... It just sounds really wild to me, both in sound and emotion. I love it
Frank Zappa's Yellow Shark, his formerly assumed unplayable composition made on the computer performed by the Ensemble Modern, G-Spot Tornado is sublime.
You've done a great job on this video. It is a difficult subject to keep it interesting. Thank you.
Laura Nyro's stream of consciousness expression of temporary insanity through hatred and murderous intent in Tom Cat Goodby (1969) is intense and scary. Nyro is Songwriters Hall of Fame and Rock Hall of Fame.
Penderecki's Threnody, Crumb's Black Angels, Grisey's Vortex Temporum, Kodaly's Cello Sonata and pretty much everything that Sorabji wrote are pretty wild too! Not to mention some Metal acts like Imperial Triumphant's Goliath and the list goes on...
Yes, Pendercki absolutely is one of the most intense composers ever. No doubt of that! I also like Koday's cello - have been listening to that for half a century! Wonderful piece of music.
@@user-bw7se2zg7b Kodaly's Cello Sonata is amazing!!
I feel like as I listen to more music, my threshold for wildness gets pushed even farther.
A few years ago, I would have said Torche and Floor were pretty wild and out there. Now, I've listened to things like Sore Dream and Lingua Ignota and Full of Hell, and Torche is almost easy listening. Edited to add: You mentioned Liturgy and I've been addicted to this album and I almost mentioned them also, except I listen to other death metal also.
This video is fantastic!
Off the top of my head, in no particular order, here are some candidates (composers/artists rather than specific pieces) for "wildest music":
- Merzbow
- Conlon Nancarrow
- John Cage (eg 4'33")
- Throbbing Gristle (eg Tiab Guls)
- Arnold Schoenberg (eg Pierrot Lunaire)
- Anton Webern
- Screaming Headless Torsos
- Steve Reich (eg Pendulum Music)
- Adrian Jacobs (David Lang)
- Brian Ferneyhough
- Ween
What comes to my mind first, when thinking about wild music is Quest for Blood with Yukihiro Isso's self titled album. It's black metal mixed with Japanese folk music, manifested as shouts and more importantly an improvised sounding folky flute solo over practically the entire record, clashing heavily with the western harmonies in the metal parts. They also heavily feature strange piano comping just to make it sound even more unlike anything else.
I discovered this album at a point, where I was starting to get a bit bored with music, feeling like I could pretty much predict what's going to happen even in extreme / avant-garde metal, which I was listening mostly at the time. This album felt like I couldn't figure it out even after countless listens and also kinda taught me to appreciate modern jazz and classical at the same time.
I listen to enough mathcore (car bomb, dillinger escape plan, converge) and dissonant death metal (gorguts, ulcerate, sunless) for them to loose some of their wildness.
So I'll go with Girl with Mary Turner by Xiu Xiu or Do You Doubt Me Traitor by Lingua Ignota.
Also can't believe no one mentioned Deathgrips yet (especially Steroids).
also mount eerie's death is real is wild to me because it is the only peace of music so devastating
damn love your videos
Amazing video and wonderful comments in this thread. Thank you for these explorations.
"Coward Killing Time" by The Quick Brown Fox has got to be up there. It sounds dangerous but considering it predominantly features audio clips of the Heavy from Team Fortress 2, I'd put it in the "Wild and Fun" category lol
was not expecting someone to suggest one of the lapfox trax "artists". i would say the track wanderlust is wilder. also on that flex you can take it all the way to extratone. if you like that kind of electronic weirdness you might want to check out artists such as Toecutter, Germlin, SAYOHIMEBOU, Passenger of Shit, Dooky
For number 5 I would add Jane Doe from Converge. First time I listened to it I thought it was deranged and pure noise, it takes a few listens to make out each element and I think it is mostly compositionally simple (compared to other wild pieces here) but that album takes noise to another level.
phoenix in flames i reckon
this is one of my favorite videos ever now!
John L by black midi is pretty wild. For a majority of the song it's basically a wall of noise except for this weird melody that pokes through that somehow doesn't feel like it really fits in. The vocal delivery is also pretty wild, it's sounds like some cowboy rambling about this cult/political leader who galvanizes the masses into basically worshipping him. It also has this crazy music video that perfectly encapsulates the wildness, I highly recommend watching it.
To me, Liszt's Dante Symphony was wild in the context of transcendence in 12:48 , where it transported you to the realm of hell and heaven. The Paradiso (3rd movement) is so majestic, ecstatic, spine-lifting; it feels like you're entering the gates of heaven.
All I can say is Troutmask Replica had to be relevant to this conversation.
Mosolovs Iron Foundry is really intense, completely atonal yet it can immediately grab the listener.
Now, Blotted Science has some exquisite and supremely intense music, while Behold the Archtopus goes a bit too far and has issues...
Also I think Cacophony (Marty Friedman/Jason Becker) specifically in their Speed-metal Symphony intro and outro, really push the envelope.
Then again Jacob Collier modulating to quarter tones successfully is also far out there.
Now ... On the other side, we can consider Wesly Willis to be quite wild (Birdman kicked my ads for example), and similarly I'd say Syd Barret, and other outsider music (Schuman included) ... Are quite wild in the sense that they come from a place where reality is breaking down
Stokhauzen has silences way over a minute (and Id argue that makes it irrelevant)...
Anyway, this more anecdotal but I remember having listened to a grind core tape. It had 20 or 30 second songs that were rather soundbytes, where they used very dense drumwork, heavily distorted instruments and even ... Someone blowing on a snorkel ... Which was rather silly to me, I listened to about 3 samples.
Really interesting train of thought!!
Meshuggah - I
i mean, damn, it's pretty god damn wild
The first part of Keith Jarrett's Vienna Concert is such an absolutely wild piece of improvised music. Forty minutes of pure musical and pianistic genius.
The artist Jute Gyte makes some of the wildest music i know - it's heavy microtonal black metal which sounds crushing and brutal while also atmospheric in a distinctly alien way
Kawaii is just the Japanese word for cute, and in English refers to a uniquely Japanese style of cuteness. Much in the same wat twee refers to a uniquely hipster/cottage core style of cute.
OMG, YES.
you cant have a video on WILD music without mentioning "Camellia"
Already earned my respect there~
the video i didnt know i needed. thanks!
Gerald Barry has some wild pieces. Sur les Pointes is about the wildest I think. It has a section with the direction 'like a wild pianola' and it's ridiculous.
Some other wild music ...
Basically everything written by George Crumb. I think Black Angels is pretty high up on the list of wild pieces.
Early They Might Be Giants is pretty wild, IMO. It's like two aliens discovered "Earth music" and decided to make some, without quite knowing any of the rules of pop music.
The Japanese band Cö shu Nie is pretty intense. It's basically maximalist music in some songs. The first song of theirs I ever heard was Asphyxia (th-cam.com/video/ZB9UvUJL_lE/w-d-xo.html), which is pretty dense and has some very abrupt mood changes throughout the song, but it all holds together really well. There's also an amazing piano & voice only version which is basically a different song. That said, not all of their music is this wild. There's a lot of variety across their albums.
Kitty Brazelton did some pretty wacky chamber rock music with her band Dadadah back in the 80s. Really great stuff.
King Crimson has tons of weird experimental rock over several decades, in a variety of different weird styles.
macdonald duck eclair is a weird Japanese band that sounds like a cross between 80s video game music and rock, with French pop vocals.
There's a great Czech band called Už jsme doma that are quite wild. It's sort of prog rock sort of experimental sort of very weird. A friend once described it as Weird Al crossed with Rammstein. Another Czech band called Psí vojáci is also pretty out there, though in a more minimal way.
There used to be a great blog called Weirdest Band in the World that had lots of wild music. Unfortunately the creator shut it down and let the domain lapse, so it was taken over by spammers. But you can still read it via archive.org at web.archive.org/web/20190916155018/weirdestbandintheworld.com/ - note that going past 09/2019 in the archive will take you the spam site. It's a shame the owner let the domain lapse since you can basically keep a static site going for free indefinitely these days. Oh well.
I have long thought that loading a mellotron with jet engine sounds would be a good start.
Great homage to your teacher at the end. That was really special!
very interesting question...for my money I think combining the intensity of metal with the unsettling qualities (to Western ears at least) of microtonal music is going to be some of the wildest stuff. Cryptic Ruse's Projected Into the Complex Plane, off of Pineal Algebra, is one of the more listenable examples of this, while still being very challenging to the point of actually headache inducing. I love it.
check out "Chrysalid Requiem" by Toby Twining, if you haven't yet : )
that title just is literally a hint I ha on math homework lol
Jute Gyte is another great example
I've recently gotten into the Bonzo Dog Doo-Dah Band. Most of the jokes in the lyrics still go over my head, but it is incredibly funny and wild music at times. I very much liked some songs off their album called The Doughnut in Granny's Greenhouse. Trouser Press and We Are Normal come to mind.
Mike Oldfield - Amarok
Legendary Stardust Cowboy - Paralyzed
Captain Beefheart has been mentioned...
Ornette Coleman, Charles Mingus have some wild tunes.
Penderecki - Polymorphia
King Crimson circa Discipline was an experiment in tightly ordered chaos. Just listen to tracks like Thela Hun Ginjeet, Indiscipline, and Elephant Talk and you'll understand, especially if you find footage of live performances.
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Yay, your number one choice for wildness was the one that first came to my mind too!
I loved the way that the auto generated transcription managed Birtwistle is several different ways, and managed to hear words in the cacophony that simply were not there...
On a Mission by Drumcorps is definitely one of the wildest tracks I've ever heard
Metal did move on quite a bit from just sheer intensity, but even in that regard Cannibal Corpse is not peak anymore. Grind and slam bands emerged soon after who pushed intensity even more, with improved production value (Insect Warfare for example). A different kind of intensity was explored by drone, psychedelic sludge metal bands and also math metal bands like Meshuggah and SikTh using more and more dissonant chords and unusual rhythms. Compositional wildness was explored by "avantgarde-metal" bands such as Unexpect, Pryapisme, Shining and Igorrr (who mixed up instrumentation also). Then later death metal also got to a whole different level with triggered drums and edited guitars with technical death metal - Archspire for example who fuse classical elements into it.
Metal is such a rabbit hole I don't think anyone can fully explore it.
Then you have groups like Thank You Scientist which dance on the line between metal, progressive rock, and jazz fusion. Tracks like "Rube Goldberg Variations" manage to completely switch genre, tone and meter so frequently and fluidly while still somehow feeling coherent. Goddamn wizard shit.
I think you both might enjoy "Imperial Triumphant" it wasn't for me but reading your comment and the bands mentioned I think you'd get a kick outa them.
I can't pick a piece, but some of Astor Piazzolla's music has sections i would definitely consider "wild". The feeling i get from it is despair bordering on madness. I love it 🤭
It comes to my mind the sort of free improvisation section of his "Tristezas de un Doble A", somewhere in the middle of the piece.
Best video yet!
There are way too many possibilities, so I'll narrow it down to the wildest composed "classical" music I've ever heard in a concert hall. That was a performance of the original version of Antheil's , with 16 player pianos, plus some instruments with human performers. It was also the loudest sustained thing I've ever heard in a concert. Unreal experience.
Weird, what happened to the "Ballet Mecanique" after "Antheil's"? Oh, well, old post....