it was Don Johnson who took the casinos for 15m by negotiating terms. There are several documentaries on yt about him talking about it. The edge sorting thing was totally different
They’re not talking about Phil Ivey at 1:48, they’re asking about Don Johnson (Secrets of a Vegas whale). What Don Johnson did was negotiated himself enough of a rebate on losses to offset the 2-3% house edge on blackjack.
I promise, casinos aren't scared of Dana White. If Dana was willing to commit to playing Black Jack for a certain amount of time, I guarantee you he'd be welcome at all of the bigger casinos in Vegas. Problem is that he makes multiple demands and then often leaves after playing 3 hands. He's all talk.
It’s not that he’s all talk but casinos don’t like dashers like that. You’re right tho, the only way he’ll get those limits is if he stays for a certain amount of hours
Dana loses more than he lets on. Everyone talks about there wins. No one wants to talk about there losses. I’m sure he has been banned from playing black jack at a few casinos but I’m sure there are plenty of casinos that want his action.
@@ImGearsBeast - The casinos have tape and they can review the taps to see if Dana is increasing his bet on a rich deck. The casinos never backed him off for card counting. A few casinos banned him for winning. I don't think he counts. Or maybe he does it on and off.
its much MUCH more likely he was backed off for being a belligerent a**hole. he clearly is not counting cards. a dude like that gets run-down immediately playing at those stakes.
@@ImGearsBeast Dana White is not a card counter. There are videos up on youtube of some of his sessions with Adin Ross and that crew and I've watched and counted down all those streams. Dana is 100% not counting and he also doesn't even play close to basic strategy. Casinos are scared of him because he's willing to bet very big and then just walk after a short session at their casino that the law of large numbers doesn't apply and it's much more risky for the casino.
Don Johnson took some Atlantic City Casinos to the cleaners. It was during a struggling time and they agreed to his terms as they rated him an average player. The big thing in his terms were that he would get a 20% rebate on all his losses and any dealer mistakes were a win in his favor. Meaning if he signaled stay and they hit him or if signaled stay and they drew the card to themselves he automatically won. Sounds frivolous but that will work in his favor over time. The 20% rebate though was the monster that shifted things in his favor. If he played perfect strategy along with the 20% rebate that would outweigh the house edge within a given number of hands.
Every video of Dana White playing blackjack shows him with HUNDREDS of THOUSANDS of marker chips on the table and he's constantly trying to pay them down. Now I don't doubt that the casino gives him huge refunds on his play and even comps him ridiculous luxuries, but he is a long term losing player, and that's a fact.
the guy is not some Rain man savant. you watch him play and he plays out of emotions and gut instinct like your average player. the only difference is he has a big enough bank account to endure losses and don't have to get rekt permanently like your average player. This allows him to stay in the game longer and recoup losses.
Nobody's afraid of Dana, people just believe these lies, but realistically The guy is losing millions sometimes even on stream with other people you see how much he is losing, stop creating this fantasy that somehow these people have a system
exactly. the only reason he would be actually banned is that he is counting cards which he clearly is not doing. in terms of the size of the action... im sure he could get a million a hand at one of thebig two operators in vegas.
He could.also lose the 2 hands so they should take the action. The odds are already in their favour so why should they need you to play for a certain amount of time to increase their odds
they aren’t going to take a shot of losing a qtr unless it’s a specified time played and if you don’t understand lengths beat short term all day for games then I can’t help you.
i understand it but all games wether played short or long, the odds favour the house. i understand the odds increase in their favour the longer you play but to me that is borderline robbery that the edge they start with isn't enough
Exactly. Casinos will let you play certain limits IF you agree to play for a certain time. Dana would play the agreed limit, but leave early if he was up. He would then proceed to dump those winnings at another casino the very next day, giving them every reason to ban him from returning.
They dont agree with his terms because he doesn't commit to playing time. If he commits to playing for 4 hours at a million per hand they might let him do it. The issue is he just wants to play until he wins 3 hands and cash out. The hypothetical statement that he could win 100M if they let him is not likely because as soon as he is up 3M he will stop playing.
This sounds like child’s play. EJ seems like a nice young man. However, his eyes look like they are watching his Dad in fear of what he might say. A disciplined life, a honest life, where real fruit is planted with real rewards, is the true work. This gambling life is not real. Dana does loose. He’s lost a lot. Fact.
All true. This is all entertainment. Nobody should ever copy what Vegas Matt and his crew does. They have money coming in from all over thy place. Great for them. In their place, I would do the same and never tell anyone about it. Its none of their business how I finance my gambling as long as it's legal. They never tell anyone to gamble like they do. It's all just supposed to be a fun time for a while. I appreciate this for that reason. Plus the guys can be funny as hell too. Harmless, as long as you appreciate it for what it is. Entertainment.
Casinos don't like high stakes players like Dana White who are hit and run types... they want players that will stay and play for hours or days... because they know that the longer they play... the more likely the casinos are to win in the long run!
If dana white was such a millionaire. Why cant he bring the money with him to the casino to play? 0 need for a credit line. It means he has no access to the cash!
I dealt to Don Johnson, his whole gimmick was to intimidate the dealer into that one mistake to give the advantage on his side. I never lasted more than a shoe with him before he would kick me out. I could stare at the tits he brought and still deal the game with no worries. Dana is actually a good player, I've floored his game, but he's on the up and up. He is there to win without complaints. he just wants a fair fight. I have always respected him as a player.
Dana White counts cards but it still wouldnt be profitable the way he does it at red rock. In order to be profitable counting cards you need to be able to play small then wait for the true count to be 4+ to start increasing your bet. Him playing 3 hands for 10k or one hand/multiple hands for 30k I would hope because he is trying to decrease/increase his bet.
You obviously don’t know anything about card counting. The last person that counts is Dana. He flat bets every hand, and plays 100% by the book. He definitely has no clue how to count cards.
Doubt that dana has any sincere intent to do this. Casinos can easily make deals between themselves to chop up the risk if they were actually concerned about making dividend payments / liquidity issues... there's too much being left on the table to not find a way to make it happen.The question is just whether it's worth the coordination for a guy who likely flakes or plays a very small number of hands. Would not be surprised if he one day ends up pissing most of what he has away, and if he does there will be precisely zero people who give a shit.
Dana has won a million dollar hand. Is a clip of it. He split it like 4 or 5 times. Was a million total on the table and he won. Think the dealer busted.
Ivey was sued for that money by the casino even though it was the casinos error. I believe he lost which is proof the casinos are a joke. Their error yet they take no accountability
dana gets everybody over to play in the red rock Y well the owner is the guy that sold the ufc and his buddy . dana gets the people in that promote his powerslap and he will tell them to up and low there limt. hey stevewilldoit
Casinos have the mathematical edge overall, on all games. They rather have thousands of smaller bettors, betting over hours, than a huge whale betting large amounts, and having a lucky streak in an hour, then quit. I recall Binions years ago, never turning down a large bet.
When Binion owned it, the legend was that whatever your first bet was became your max. I think there's probably a casino somewhere who wouldn't mind letting Dana White play $1 million, but they're probably like me when my friends make a bet with me - I tell them to put the money on the table first😉
Why TF is EJ staring at Matt to make sure he's not saying to much. Very odd. They are straight casino sell outs. It's all about marketing and making money from the casinos. I doubt they even play with their own money anymore
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it was Don Johnson who took the casinos for 15m by negotiating terms. There are several documentaries on yt about him talking about it. The edge sorting thing was totally different
They’re not talking about Phil Ivey at 1:48, they’re asking about Don Johnson (Secrets of a Vegas whale). What Don Johnson did was negotiated himself enough of a rebate on losses to offset the 2-3% house edge on blackjack.
Yep
Don Johnson is the guy Graham is thinking of he AC for a bunch of money
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I promise, casinos aren't scared of Dana White. If Dana was willing to commit to playing Black Jack for a certain amount of time, I guarantee you he'd be welcome at all of the bigger casinos in Vegas. Problem is that he makes multiple demands and then often leaves after playing 3 hands. He's all talk.
Very True
dana has talked about losing over two million in one night at a casino. I don't see why they wouldn't let him play a million dollar hand.
Dana White used to use the UFC as leverage to get insanely favourable deals at the Casino or he'd pull the UFC from the venue. He's a big talker.
It’s not that he’s all talk but casinos don’t like dashers like that. You’re right tho, the only way he’ll get those limits is if he stays for a certain amount of hours
Casinos aren't scared of anyone. The are powerful and rich and the gamblers are the ones that should be scared obviously
Dana loses more than he lets on. Everyone talks about there wins. No one wants to talk about there losses. I’m sure he has been banned from playing black jack at a few casinos but I’m sure there are plenty of casinos that want his action.
Depends if he can actually count cards, if he can makes sense why they ban him
@@ImGearsBeast - The casinos have tape and they can review the taps to see if Dana is increasing his bet on a rich deck. The casinos never backed him off for card counting. A few casinos banned him for winning. I don't think he counts. Or maybe he does it on and off.
its much MUCH more likely he was backed off for being a belligerent a**hole. he clearly is not counting cards. a dude like that gets run-down immediately playing at those stakes.
@@ImGearsBeast Dana White is not a card counter. There are videos up on youtube of some of his sessions with Adin Ross and that crew and I've watched and counted down all those streams. Dana is 100% not counting and he also doesn't even play close to basic strategy. Casinos are scared of him because he's willing to bet very big and then just walk after a short session at their casino that the law of large numbers doesn't apply and it's much more risky for the casino.
Such a true statement Dana is a gambler not an advantage player
I respect them for letting folks know they just having fun. The average gambler is in the negative far as W/L ratio
I would never feel sorry for a Casino 🎰 going bankrupt!
Sounds like you've lost good money at the casinos. 😂
@ I don’t play games that aren’t in my favor 😉
Notice how these high rollers have huge egos too.
Meanwhile the fighters struggle to get by.
Dana pays little to his fighters but finds money to play crazy amount
Don Johnson took some Atlantic City Casinos to the cleaners. It was during a struggling time and they agreed to his terms as they rated him an average player. The big thing in his terms were that he would get a 20% rebate on all his losses and any dealer mistakes were a win in his favor. Meaning if he signaled stay and they hit him or if signaled stay and they drew the card to themselves he automatically won. Sounds frivolous but that will work in his favor over time. The 20% rebate though was the monster that shifted things in his favor. If he played perfect strategy along with the 20% rebate that would outweigh the house edge within a given number of hands.
Can play 1 M a hand in Macau... Been able to for decades now.
Every video of Dana White playing blackjack shows him with HUNDREDS of THOUSANDS of marker chips on the table and he's constantly trying to pay them down. Now I don't doubt that the casino gives him huge refunds on his play and even comps him ridiculous luxuries, but he is a long term losing player, and that's a fact.
the guy is not some Rain man savant. you watch him play and he plays out of emotions and gut instinct like your average player. the only difference is he has a big enough bank account to endure losses and don't have to get rekt permanently like your average player. This allows him to stay in the game longer and recoup losses.
Nobody's afraid of Dana, people just believe these lies, but realistically The guy is losing millions sometimes even on stream with other people you see how much he is losing, stop creating this fantasy that somehow these people have a system
exactly. the only reason he would be actually banned is that he is counting cards which he clearly is not doing. in terms of the size of the action... im sure he could get a million a hand at one of thebig two operators in vegas.
@WallOrange he is just creating an illusion that he's somehow has a system but you can watch him lose.
totally
Not one casino is afraid they just don’t want to allow 1 million bets when he can quit after winning 2 hands and ruin their qtr
Exactly right. The casinos will allow you to play higher with the agreement that you play longer. Dana White wouldn't honor that agreement.
He could.also lose the 2 hands so they should take the action. The odds are already in their favour so why should they need you to play for a certain amount of time to increase their odds
they aren’t going to take a shot of losing a qtr unless it’s a specified time played and if you don’t understand lengths beat short term all day for games then I can’t help you.
i understand it but all games wether played short or long, the odds favour the house. i understand the odds increase in their favour the longer you play but to me that is borderline robbery that the edge they start with isn't enough
Dana white loses fortunes ,the reasons casino barred him was becaus of his hit and run sessions do a few big hands up $50000 and stops
Buddy turning over a lot more money than that that’s baby change
Exactly. Casinos will let you play certain limits IF you agree to play for a certain time. Dana would play the agreed limit, but leave early if he was up. He would then proceed to dump those winnings at another casino the very next day, giving them every reason to ban him from returning.
He isn't actually barred anywhere they just won't give him a big credit line.
Hope EJ is parlaying this into getting some top shelf tail. I know i would be
As a 40 year casino executive, only people outside of the industry use the term "Whale".
"we're not whales" meanwhile -2million on slots lmao
Yeah I thought the same thing haha. He’s played over $1,000 a spin before. That’s a whale
They dont agree with his terms because he doesn't commit to playing time. If he commits to playing for 4 hours at a million per hand they might let him do it. The issue is he just wants to play until he wins 3 hands and cash out. The hypothetical statement that he could win 100M if they let him is not likely because as soon as he is up 3M he will stop playing.
This sounds like child’s play. EJ seems like a nice young man. However, his eyes look like they are watching his Dad in fear of what he might say.
A disciplined life, a honest life, where real fruit is planted with real rewards, is the true work. This gambling life is not real. Dana does loose. He’s lost a lot. Fact.
All true. This is all entertainment. Nobody should ever copy what Vegas Matt and his crew does. They have money coming in from all over thy place. Great for them. In their place, I would do the same and never tell anyone about it. Its none of their business how I finance my gambling as long as it's legal. They never tell anyone to gamble like they do. It's all just supposed to be a fun time for a while. I appreciate this for that reason. Plus the guys can be funny as hell too. Harmless, as long as you appreciate it for what it is. Entertainment.
Bros living his dream with his son. He already WON
That
Kid got the golden ticket in life...must be nice
The problem with Dana is that he has made it clear if he wins a few hands he’s out
Not the Phil Ivey Case. It's A Blackjack Gambler named Don Johnson
This Phil Ivey story is inaccurate since they didn’t talk about the accomplice who actually did the reading
“We’re not whales” lmaooo. You betting thousands of dollars on a slot machine says otherwise.
Casinos don't like high stakes players like Dana White who are hit and run types... they want players that will stay and play for hours or days... because they know that the longer they play... the more likely the casinos are to win in the long run!
When you make it to much about the money... you loose a LOT of fun.
Hard Rock casino, 10 100,000$ hands on Baccarat
I wish casino's did not exist.
If dana white was such a millionaire. Why cant he bring the money with him to the casino to play? 0 need for a credit line. It means he has no access to the cash!
Exactly. He should be a billionaire from MMA.
Why not use other peoples money if you can 😂😂 same way people get mortgages and car loans. Always use other peoples money when you can
He should come MBS
Going on the road 10 Casinos for 100k each hand
Casinos aren’t afraid of Dana White
Does anyone know if the Bruno Mars MGM credit story was real?
I dealt to Don Johnson, his whole gimmick was to intimidate the dealer into that one mistake to give the advantage on his side. I never lasted more than a shoe with him before he would kick me out. I could stare at the tits he brought and still deal the game with no worries. Dana is actually a good player, I've floored his game, but he's on the up and up. He is there to win without complaints. he just wants a fair fight. I have always respected him as a player.
Dana White counts cards but it still wouldnt be profitable the way he does it at red rock. In order to be profitable counting cards you need to be able to play small then wait for the true count to be 4+ to start increasing your bet. Him playing 3 hands for 10k or one hand/multiple hands for 30k I would hope because he is trying to decrease/increase his bet.
You obviously don’t know anything about card counting. The last person that counts is Dana. He flat bets every hand, and plays 100% by the book. He definitely has no clue how to count cards.
Doubt that dana has any sincere intent to do this. Casinos can easily make deals between themselves to chop up the risk if they were actually concerned about making dividend payments / liquidity issues... there's too much being left on the table to not find a way to make it happen.The question is just whether it's worth the coordination for a guy who likely flakes or plays a very small number of hands. Would not be surprised if he one day ends up pissing most of what he has away, and if he does there will be precisely zero people who give a shit.
Queue mikki mase loading a video talking about some story of him betting a mil a hand.
Dana has won a million dollar hand. Is a clip of it. He split it like 4 or 5 times. Was a million total on the table and he won. Think the dealer busted.
th-cam.com/users/shortsO1sHWRFl5WA?si=8RqrBRlMfRbzWHzM Dana wins million dollar hand
casinos know that if dana is up one hand in the time of playing he ll walk away with a million dollar lol he isn't there to gamble
Ivey was sued for that money by the casino even though it was the casinos error. I believe he lost which is proof the casinos are a joke. Their error yet they take no accountability
dana gets everybody over to play in the red rock Y well the owner is the guy that sold the ufc and his buddy . dana gets the people in that promote his powerslap and he will tell them to up and low there limt. hey stevewilldoit
This channel has gone to garbage
Its not that hard. 100 hands at 10000 a hand. No piling just your 1000000 vs. At 10000 per hand.
El Cortez will vegas matt
Who is WBG???
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It took jim miller just 20yrs of brain damage to make a million...
Casinos have the mathematical edge overall, on all games. They rather have thousands of smaller bettors, betting over hours, than a huge whale betting large amounts, and having a lucky streak in an hour, then quit. I recall Binions years ago, never turning down a large bet.
When Binion owned it, the legend was that whatever your first bet was became your max. I think there's probably a casino somewhere who wouldn't mind letting Dana White play $1 million, but they're probably like me when my friends make a bet with me - I tell them to put the money on the table first😉
Why TF is EJ staring at Matt to make sure he's not saying to much. Very odd. They are straight casino sell outs. It's all about marketing and making money from the casinos. I doubt they even play with their own money anymore
I think ej has some sort of disability that makes him awkward af
So true
I think your wrong
@@df7817 I think you have no evidence to back it up. So you are wrong.
Watch Dana play some BJ. He dosen't even play perfect play every time.
Why a r e u talking to the guy who plays slots on demo mode and does not really play for real money. Just ask him.
Cap.
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