I usually disagree with your reviews but I VEHEMENTLY disagree with this one. 1. Why It’s Not Remembered? It came out right after Iron Man and the same year as Avatar; films that changed the movie going experience. Gangster films aren’t popular anymore. The Story Was Weak. The plot and actors do a fine job of introducing characters laymans know little about (Hoover, Nelson, Purvis, Hamilton) and illustrating the ineptitude of a fledgling FBI. The Lighting/Camera Work. Directors of this time period (Favreau, Nolan, Mann) took chances on different ways to deliver their vision. Some of it worked and some of it didn’t. I think you put too much emphasis on this point and I personally don’t believe Mann’s decisions made the movie ‘bad’. In 2009-10, I don’t think anyone cared tbh. I watched this movie tons of times from 10-12 and always thought it was fun to see Depp as a bank robber. Although I do agree that Mann’s projects are hit or miss as of late, I don’t believe Public Enemies is one of them. It cleared 100M at the box office.
Mann has never been massive on plot, his best stories are very basic, I think he went OTT in this and Miami Vice came across less gritty and unrealistic
Agree with alot of your takes on this. I, too, like this movie but also felt it perhaps could have been elevated on a few levels. I will note a few historical things for those interested, however. Dilinger's nearly 10 year prison stint came at the evolution of the Industrial age, and when he got out of prison much of the world had changed. Vehicles had gone from something only the wealthy could afford to a staple of everyday life for most American families. The advent and placement of the first national interstate system was also coming into it's own, and for the first time long distance travel was becoming not only normalized, but easy, thus a new wave of crime was popping up, and with the height of the Great Depression, Dilinger's status as an ex-con wasn't likely to land him a legitimate job when so few were available anyway, thus that unique mix became the perfect socioeconomic cocktail for his criminal decisions. Lastly, the popularity of "talking pictures" was becoming the main source of entertainment, and Dilinger's criminal ascent did indeed capture a national audience looking for both heroes and anti heroes, alike. These things are touched on throughout the film , but several of them are so subtle and "low lighted" that knowing the historical context beforehand is about the only way to even realize what Mann is actually doing with the narrative plot points.
I would like to see you do a Retro Review of the 1996 HBO biopic "Gotti" starring Armand Assante. You have mentioned it in a previous video, but i think based on it's production quality it deserves a full review. Paid in Full (2002) starring Mekhi Phifer, Wood Harris and Esai Morales is another movie i think deserves a full review. A cut above the typical movie on the rise and fall of a drug kingpin. As an aside have you ever seen the series of three crime documentaries produced by England's Channel 4 in 2006 called The Real Goodfella,The Real Sopranos and The Godfather and The Mob. Very well made and filled with interesting facts. I enjoy your channel, keep up the quality content.
The only thing I remember about this movie was the people in Crown Point losing their shit over Depp. Visiting the Dillenger Museum at the courthouse was more entertaining. Going to the Walgreens that used to be the bank where Dillenger shot a cop and became public enemy no. 1 was more entertaining.
Saw it a long time ago, and didn't like it that much. Just saw it again last week, to give it another shot. Felt the same way. The 1973 one was better, not great, but better. Depp was completely wrong for this role too. I would just call it an average movie. I hated Christian Bale in it. He is such a hit or miss actor. He was pretty awful in this movie.
This is a great film... an underrated gem. You are wayyyyy far off on this one. And the films darker lighting is deliberate, in that the shows and movies back in the 30s were darker
I liked Miami vice but it had all the hallmarks of a movie he either got bord of filming or only made because. Kind of like David Ayer's tax collector, it had the feeling they story boarded it then lost interest. Black hat was just a movie to pay the IRS and we'll leave it at that.
Share your thoughts on upcoming heat 2 adaptation without spoilers from novel. Your thoughts on replacement of deniro with Adam driver Austin Butler and ana de armis.
This is definitely a case where the book is WAY better than the movie. I still found it entertaining enough to be worth the price of admission though. OK, but could have been so much better.
Although it would not be a retro review, please write a scathing and horrific review of the recent "Marlowe" film, directed by goddam Neil Jordan who brought us "The Crying Game"
I remember feeling the same way about it. Like when he steals the "Ford coupe with the V4 engine" (as I recall), and it's, like, utterly unexciting.
it was a 'V8'..There's no such thing as a "V4" its called an Inline 4.
I usually disagree with your reviews but I VEHEMENTLY disagree with this one.
1. Why It’s Not Remembered?
It came out right after Iron Man and the same year as Avatar; films that changed the movie going experience. Gangster films aren’t popular anymore.
The Story Was Weak.
The plot and actors do a fine job of introducing characters laymans know little about (Hoover, Nelson, Purvis, Hamilton) and illustrating the ineptitude of a fledgling FBI.
The Lighting/Camera Work.
Directors of this time period (Favreau, Nolan, Mann) took chances on different ways to deliver their vision. Some of it worked and some of it didn’t. I think you put too much emphasis on this point and I personally don’t believe Mann’s decisions made the movie ‘bad’. In 2009-10, I don’t think anyone cared tbh.
I watched this movie tons of times from 10-12 and always thought it was fun to see Depp as a bank robber. Although I do agree that Mann’s projects are hit or miss as of late, I don’t believe Public Enemies is one of them. It cleared 100M at the box office.
Mann has never been massive on plot, his best stories are very basic, I think he went OTT in this and Miami Vice came across less gritty and unrealistic
There was one thing memorable for me from Blackhat: the subways chases scene at Hong Kong is mere fifteen minutes walking distance away from my home!
Agree with alot of your takes on this. I, too, like this movie but also felt it perhaps could have been elevated on a few levels. I will note a few historical things for those interested, however. Dilinger's nearly 10 year prison stint came at the evolution of the Industrial age, and when he got out of prison much of the world had changed. Vehicles had gone from something only the wealthy could afford to a staple of everyday life for most American families. The advent and placement of the first national interstate system was also coming into it's own, and for the first time long distance travel was becoming not only normalized, but easy, thus a new wave of crime was popping up, and with the height of the Great Depression, Dilinger's status as an ex-con wasn't likely to land him a legitimate job when so few were available anyway, thus that unique mix became the perfect socioeconomic cocktail for his criminal decisions. Lastly, the popularity of "talking pictures" was becoming the main source of entertainment, and Dilinger's criminal ascent did indeed capture a national audience looking for both heroes and anti heroes, alike. These things are touched on throughout the film , but several of them are so subtle and "low lighted" that knowing the historical context beforehand is about the only way to even realize what Mann is actually doing with the narrative plot points.
I would like to see you do a Retro Review of the 1996 HBO biopic "Gotti" starring Armand Assante. You have mentioned it in a previous video, but i think based on it's production quality it deserves a full review. Paid in Full (2002) starring Mekhi Phifer, Wood Harris and Esai Morales is another movie i think deserves a full review. A cut above the typical movie on the rise and fall of a drug kingpin.
As an aside have you ever seen the series of three crime documentaries produced by England's Channel 4 in 2006 called The Real Goodfella,The Real Sopranos and The Godfather and The Mob. Very well made and filled with interesting facts.
I enjoy your channel, keep up the quality content.
Saw it in the theater and was underwhelmed.
The only thing I remember about this movie was the people in Crown Point losing their shit over Depp. Visiting the Dillenger Museum at the courthouse was more entertaining. Going to the Walgreens that used to be the bank where Dillenger shot a cop and became public enemy no. 1 was more entertaining.
Saw it a long time ago, and didn't like it that much. Just saw it again last week, to give it another shot. Felt the same way. The 1973 one was better, not great, but better. Depp was completely wrong for this role too. I would just call it an average movie. I hated Christian Bale in it. He is such a hit or miss actor. He was pretty awful in this movie.
I agree with blade425 Dillinger is a far better movie. It seemed like Johnny Depp either acted too cool or is too cool to play John Dillinger.
This is a great film... an underrated gem. You are wayyyyy far off on this one. And the films darker lighting is deliberate, in that the shows and movies back in the 30s were darker
I liked Miami vice but it had all the hallmarks of a movie he either got bord of filming or only made because.
Kind of like David Ayer's tax collector, it had the feeling they story boarded it then lost interest.
Black hat was just a movie to pay the IRS and we'll leave it at that.
Share your thoughts on upcoming heat 2 adaptation without spoilers from novel. Your thoughts on replacement of deniro with Adam driver Austin Butler and ana de armis.
How about reviewing Jane Austen's Mafia! from 1998, starring Jay Mohr, Lloyd Bridges and Christina Applegate?
A high frame rate does not work for cinema, it really changes the feel of the movie. Gemini man is another example of this.
Great analysis!
Watch the 1973 Dillinger movie. Warren Oates is way better than Depp
No thx it's a 1973 movie
@@sudstahgaming ok pretty boy
@cineranter i hope you make a retro review of: road to perdition, cynematic wise a very interesting movie.
Never understood why Depp is considered as a great actor...
I liked the film but I loved the book it was based on.
This is definitely a case where the book is WAY better than the movie. I still found it entertaining enough to be worth the price of admission though. OK, but could have been so much better.
I see it a bit differently. For me, Miami Vice is his only bad movie.
i disagree. Public Enemies was excellent. Mann's cinematography is why hes my favorite.
This was a big let down,thought it slow boring and plodding. Digital has destroyed cinema. Great review!
I love this film
Although it would not be a retro review, please write a scathing and horrific review of the recent "Marlowe" film, directed by goddam Neil Jordan who brought us "The Crying Game"
I took one look at the trailer and noped right out of there!
@@CineRanter I left before the fucking movie was over. With 20mins left. First time ever. I was like "I'd rather get to bed on time"
Saw this, fell asleep, remember nothing
THERE WAS ANOTHER VERSION OF DILLINGER AND IT WAS MUCH BETTER
Mann shot it all wrong. Awful digital with atrocious shutter speed artifacts, plus way too much steadycam and short lenses.
Yup a forgettable movie. A just ok gangster vehicle. Could have been better.
Honestly this film is bland