I felt as too as Galvatron, Stinger was given some of Sentinel's parts in which why he has so much of versatility, raw strength which he can battle multiple Autobots at once.
@@silverstormusprime7807 It'd be cool if Sentinel's consciousness was in Stinger. I mean if Megatron can survive and install himself into Galvatron body, then so can Sentinel.
@TheWarmachine375 not necessarily Megatron is special in the sense he can survive injures no other cybertronian can like getting half his brain blown out or getting his head ripped off
I rather call him Motormaster, because thats what his name should've been. His truckmode is literally perfect. And rather than basically Megs reborn, he was his "pet" of sorts. Like, his main lackey or something? Like, something similar to Galvy/Unicron situation in TF Prime. Idk if I'm communicating this right.
If stinger actually got more screentime in the movie, I'd be able to see him as potential rival to bee but he was another unfortunate victim of the "cool but disposable character design" tactic
0:50 Brainrot version: KSI is a company that is a knockoff of famous brands, decoding the secret ingredient of Gatorade and making their own version, prime. When they attempted to make their own lunch meal (in attempt to rip off Lunchables) they created lunchly. However the lunchly product had it's flaws and kept looking like mold. But for Prime, it was "better in every way" against the "outdated" Gatorade
I want a show where Wasp (like from Animated), Bug Bite (like from Cyberverse), and Stinger (like from the Bayverse) fight Bumblebee and are Bumblebee's archenemies
It's funny how bee calls him a cheap knock off when he copies his design and weapons😂 calling him a knock-off, but then proceeds take inspiration from him
I loved Stinger! I still have his toy lying around here somewhere. He was one of my favorite villains in that movie, even though he was short-lived... literally.
2:23 It may seem lazy to most but I'm a huge fan of the "Hypno-Transformation". I wish we saw more of it because the sound design was so satisfying to hear and the VFX was really cleanly done
I agree. The visual of a robot deforming into a swarm of cubes and reforming into something else is really cool, and the sound design is great as you said. I also like how it ties into the theme of 'Artificial Transformers'. People say that the "Hypno-Transformations" are not real transformations, but that's exactly the point. The KSI Transformers are not 'real' Transformers. They are soulless copies made from the harvested materials of dead Transformers, and the transformations show that. The KSI bots do not neatly switch from robot mode to alt mode and vice versa by shifting their parts, they simply cheat by deforming into a cloud of cubes and reforming into their desired mode. It is lazy, and that's what makes it work so well thematically.
I'm one of those people that don't like the transformation. I like the original as it more screams "transformers" The transformation where we got a bunch cubes and particles screams more of "Tron" You guys are entitled to your own opinion as always 🙏
@@lionbolt2136 so are you to yours 🙏 But to me, the way they don't transform traditionally further adds to the artificial and human made side of them. KSI aims to make mechs had that can *reformat* themselves into vehicles not transform
This transofrmation opens up a LOT of possibilities for the drones, like changing their looks and copying/upgrading weapons, but i prefer the regular transformation instead of the hypno
So agreed! I wish Bee just didn't scan a new alt. I loved his 1967 Camaro mode a whole lot more! Why does my favorite Bee AND Optimus (Bayverse) designs have to be in the same movie but be so underutilized!? 1967 Camaro Bee and Evasion Optimus are my favorite Bay designs for them. I need Studio Series toys for both of them so badly! If you were wondering, my favorite movie alts for Bee (across both universes) are VW Beetle, 1977 Camaro (Reboot), and 1967 Carmaro (AOE)
Amazing video. I love Bumblebee’s cheap knockoff line. One thing I’ve wondered about is what happened to Sam’s parents. I know during that last family meeting, he told them to go hide and they were never seen again after that. I wonder what happened to them after Dark Of The Moon.
You made some very valid points, and to be honest, I genuinely like Stinger. You’ve helped me appreciate her versatility. While Stinger is physically and technologically superior, I feel that people often overlook Bumblebee's outdated nature and instead focus more on his character and morality. I believe Bumblebee's character is more admirable than Stinger's physical abilities. As Al said in Transformers 1, "It's not the physical or cognitive abilities that make the body, but rather the spark inside it." That being said, I would have loved to see Stinger in other media-not as a man-made Cybertronian, but as a true Cybertronian created by Shockwave or another Decepticon or Cybertron scientist. It would be interesting to see Stinger designed to resemble Bumblebee and have some sort of relationship with him, perhaps as an antagonist or a foil.
We can see ksi bots & Stinger as the bots who were being trained by Airachnid to fight Quintessons (which is a lie) then they're recruited by Megatron to join the Decepticons & millions of ksi bots join the Decepticons. This thing happening in Tf Two is highly unlikely 😔.
@@Techno_Halo Probably going off how the character (or the car in the film that would become the character) was originally attached to a character called Widow Maker who was a female character. I suppose the originally commenter was tying the two characters together.
Always found it kinda fucked up how they went on and on about Stinger being superior to Bumblebee who was outdated and antique, like he wasn't a living thing. Even moreso the fact he can't speak is a literal disability he sustained in war. Honestly I really wish Stinger and Galvatron had bigger roles in this film for such a cool concept of them being revenants and a new breed of cybertronian who basically sold their soul for power under human control until it suited their interests to steal back that power.
cheap knockoff is actually more nicer than how the Autobots act towards each other (real not fake) _also i’m still hoping stinger gets a new 2.0 figure for studio series eventually_
I still believe in that theory I read years ago that said Stinger had the memories and abilities of a sentinel, which is why he was so powerful and skilled in battles and could face several Autobots at the same time. 🔥
As much as i love bumblebee he is a bit of a hypocrite. when he kills stinger he says "i hate cheap knock offs" yes stinger was based off bumblebee but he did have alot of diffrences and infact it was bumblebee who got jealous and copyied stingers looks
I have an interesting theory that’s worth a deep dive: What if the fallen disobeyed the other primes to destroy earth cause he knew it was Unicron all along I mean it would explain why all the decepticons always wanted Earth destroyed, and why humans were always portrayed as pitiful, nasty, no good doing people in the bay verse. Those movies (outside of a few select people) always seemed to show the worst of the worst in humanity which would be due to humans being “influenced” by the world/ evil transformer humans are a part of
@@PearlTheCrystalGem Last I checked Ehren Kruger is the one who did the actual writing for the film, if anything Bay would be to blame for the directing. I know it's popular to hate on Bay or whatever which is fair but maybe one day people can understand that the actual writing falls at the hands of the actual writers for the films. This isn't even a "defending Bay" comment, this is a "combating misinformation" comment instead.
@@PearlTheCrystalGem it's not terrible writing because some of the scenes that stinger would have been in would never see the light of day we would have seen bee drift crosshairs and hound go up against stinger but since that costed them money and with the budget the movie had that scene never came to be sure you can blame people for shit writing and what not but aoe writter had a shit ton of ideas for aoe but since the budge fir the movie was so much they couldn't use much of the ideas for the movies since the budget of a movie decides what does and what doesn't get put in for the final cut before it hits theathers
FINALLY someone addresses this guy being stronger than Bumblebee. plus his design is much cooler, the red accompanies this already great Design Perfectly, Stinger is my favorite transformer in the Bayverse and im very dissapointed we havent seen more of him.
When I first saw Age of Extinction, I immediately fell in love with the Stinger bod for both Stinger and Bumblebee. It’s quite a shame that Stinger was not given more screen time
In Bayverse Transformers comics, the Autobots were the Science Force who want to advance Cybertron's society but forced to take up arms while the Decepticons were the Defense Force who were supposed to protect Cybertron but became Megatron's violent army.
Regardless, the Autobots, INCLUDING Bumblebee, has taken foes greater than themselves. Did we forget that in the franchise in general, they have transformers who turn into actual cities? We never truly know what happened back on Cybertron, and I doubt that in the end Stinger bests Bee in combat. Given Bee’s track record.
Another piece of proof: In Rise of the Dark Spark (3DS), Stinger works for Lockdown's mercenaries and is seen to be Lockdown's first lieutenant, since he's the only other named character that works for the mercenaries. Also, he has 140 health, which is just 10 health shy of Optimus and Megatron, meaning that Stinger is the most powerful transformer in the game that isn't the leader of their faction.
He had the help of the Dinobot. And Stinger technically is better than Bee. But stinger lost because Bee copied Stinger's body. A superior body structure mixed with all that experience and skill is definitely stronger opponent. Just that the body isn't Bee's.
im so glad unique toys is currently doing an MPM figure of Stinger, i genuinely love his design and UT's black magic the sculpting genuinely seems amazing (has a 100% clean and accurate back too) and the articulation seems really good i'm 100% picking him up, that figure will do him justice 100%
I’ve been watching these theory videos for a bit and always leave with a newfound appreciation with these characters that haven’t gotten much screen time or were just underutilized. Definitely always just a great watch to either kill time or just be more informed with these movies I love so much. :]
@@Theorymus you should do this in early 2025 PURPOSE YOUR OWN HASBRO CINEMATIC UNIVERSE/MULTIVERSE! YOU HAVE DONE STORIES BASED ON TRANSFORMERS before So if you got the touch You Got the Power!
If i was a TF project creator, i would made Stinger as one of few drones, made up by some humans from captured protoforms for they evil plans, and they all would be similar to Bumblebee (In this moment Goldbug). As a result, Goldbug will spare spark of one of this drones, and this drone will take name one of the Cybertron's greatest heroes - Cliffjumper, after which he will become Goldbug's "little brother"
I still find it dumb that Megatron and Stinger can literally turn into particles to either transform or escape injury(even the no name KSI Bots turn Decepticons) yet Stinger is still somehow killed and Megatron stopped being Galvatron after one movie (I blame crappy Bay for the story direction) Just sucks they didn't do more with Stinger.
Sup theory I’ve been subbed to your channel for five years now but recently my other account got hacked so now I’m back to see these amazing videos on the bayverse 👍
I just wish they made a good toy for this one. Stinger is a character I want to see more of in new media kinda like Barricade, Bonecrusher, and Blackout. There are some elements of bayverse that actually have potential and I wish that hasbro allow for new takes like they used to.
Though it kinda makes sense when you consider the robots in disguise and how scanning transformations work. This is kind of like how in TFP Optimus had upgrades from the Forge of Solus Prime but humans had to design a vehicle to suit those augmentations but in reverse for Bee and Stinger. Its basically his usual gear but moved around and redesigned for efficiency as a weapon instead of seeing them as living beings.
Finnaly someone who recognized Stinger as a true antagonist. I've liked his design, weapons and vehicle since the first time i saw the movie. And another reason why Bumblebee killed Stinger was because he decapitated him with the claw he copied from stinger
I hoped that despite being a drone Stringer actually gained sentience from the cybetrınian mats inside of him and looked bee as his big brother and joined autobots 8 year old me was quite the dreamer
Hello theorymus big fan of your videos always puts a smile on my face Would you ever make your own transformer character and if you did what side would you be on and what vehicle would you chose and again big fan of your videos can’t wait to see the next one
My only real issue with stinger is more about the way they wrote bee in this movie. Bee keeps on calling Stinger a cheap knock off, but ends up being the one to copy stinger's look in the end
It's true that Stinger could've held his own against the Autobots, though it's just as likely that they were simply chasing him away, thus keeping them distracted.
That sounds like another character that's from a game and some shows, Metal Sonic, in a way. Made to outclass the competition, he takes everything that his opponents had and cranked it up even higher, and can fight multiple people at once.
Ksi legit just called alien tech outdated even tho the autobots kicked their ass six
Ways to sunday
@@martinezantonio4061 MECH: "Is it possible to learn this power?"
Let's be honest though, Galvatron fodderizes any autobot not called optimus
@@knightofthelake8112 It'd be amazing to see Galvatron body the Dinobots to show who's boss.
Yeah, but we never see much of it because lockdown or someone else has to be the main villain @@knightofthelake8112
Human arrogance
I felt as too as Galvatron, Stinger was given some of Sentinel's parts in which why he has so much of versatility, raw strength which he can battle multiple Autobots at once.
@@silverstormusprime7807 It'd be cool if Sentinel's consciousness was in Stinger. I mean if Megatron can survive and install himself into Galvatron body, then so can Sentinel.
@TheWarmachine375 not necessarily Megatron is special in the sense he can survive injures no other cybertronian can like getting half his brain blown out or getting his head ripped off
I rather call him Motormaster, because thats what his name should've been. His truckmode is literally perfect. And rather than basically Megs reborn, he was his "pet" of sorts. Like, his main lackey or something? Like, something similar to Galvy/Unicron situation in TF Prime. Idk if I'm communicating this right.
KSI irl:💀💀💀
KSI in TF4:👨🍳👨🍳👨🍳(bro cooked)
It's more like this tbh.
KSI irl: 🤡🎪🤓
KSI in TF4: [:🔥🌌💯👽🦾🤖🗿💎💠🌲🐦🔥 (Straight up)
Cringe
@@Intr0vertical.-.
More like: KSI irl :yawn: don't give a scrap (don't even know him, but still don't care)
KSI in AOE: Ok, thats not bad. Not bad (of an idea) at all
@@fennekin1750 Transformers movies in the Nutshell:🦾🤖👽🛸🗿🌌💯😎🔥💠
If stinger actually got more screentime in the movie, I'd be able to see him as potential rival to bee but he was another unfortunate victim of the "cool but disposable character design" tactic
Which Megatron has been stuck with ever since the first film except the part where he never dies he just gets jobbed
@kennethsatria6607 yeah, Megs got it the worst, dude can't catch a break
@@shakedown3268 Yeah, the Decepticons in Bayverse were just punching bags in a nutshell.
@TheWarmachine375 yeah, that's the sad truth of it all, whether their an established character or just a drone, they all end up the same
@@shakedown3268 Decepticons had been through eons of warfare only to quickly fall to the firepower of the US military with ridiculous ease.
0:50 Brainrot version: KSI is a company that is a knockoff of famous brands, decoding the secret ingredient of Gatorade and making their own version, prime. When they attempted to make their own lunch meal (in attempt to rip off Lunchables) they created lunchly. However the lunchly product had it's flaws and kept looking like mold. But for Prime, it was "better in every way" against the "outdated" Gatorade
They‘re in the thick of it, everybody knows
The company is in their prime, but they aren't in their final form
Missed opportunity to call him waspinator 💔
Better yet che could have been called/dubbed Bugbite.
If he were green wasp
Ain’t that a terrorcon?
I want a show where Wasp (like from Animated), Bug Bite (like from Cyberverse), and Stinger (like from the Bayverse) fight Bumblebee and are Bumblebee's archenemies
uhm acktually bug bite was originally a gobots character 🤓
It's funny how bee calls him a cheap knock off when he copies his design and weapons😂 calling him a knock-off, but then proceeds take inspiration from him
The fact that he can just do that with a look already shows his own body is superior to human "tech"
I mean google said stinger is bumblebee evil twin so bumblebee and stinger are like the twins from rotf but better
I’m one of the few people that actually like stinger
Yeah an underrated character
I loved Stinger! I still have his toy lying around here somewhere. He was one of my favorite villains in that movie, even though he was short-lived... literally.
Same
I like stinger. I wish he had more screen time
SAMMEE
Bumblebee may sting like a bee, but Stinger can throw hands for days.
2:23 It may seem lazy to most but I'm a huge fan of the "Hypno-Transformation". I wish we saw more of it because the sound design was so satisfying to hear and the VFX was really cleanly done
I agree. The visual of a robot deforming into a swarm of cubes and reforming into something else is really cool, and the sound design is great as you said.
I also like how it ties into the theme of 'Artificial Transformers'. People say that the "Hypno-Transformations" are not real transformations, but that's exactly the point. The KSI Transformers are not 'real' Transformers. They are soulless copies made from the harvested materials of dead Transformers, and the transformations show that. The KSI bots do not neatly switch from robot mode to alt mode and vice versa by shifting their parts, they simply cheat by deforming into a cloud of cubes and reforming into their desired mode. It is lazy, and that's what makes it work so well thematically.
Same.
I'm one of those people that don't like the transformation.
I like the original as it more screams "transformers"
The transformation where we got a bunch cubes and particles screams more of "Tron"
You guys are entitled to your own opinion as always 🙏
@@lionbolt2136 so are you to yours 🙏 But to me, the way they don't transform traditionally further adds to the artificial and human made side of them. KSI aims to make mechs had that can *reformat* themselves into vehicles not transform
This transofrmation opens up a LOT of possibilities for the drones, like changing their looks and copying/upgrading weapons, but i prefer the regular transformation instead of the hypno
Optimus: Bumblebee, you copy stinger's design?
Bumblebee: HELL NAW
I'm of the opinion that the aoe design for bee and stinger fits stinger way more than it does BumbleBee
So agreed! I wish Bee just didn't scan a new alt. I loved his 1967 Camaro mode a whole lot more! Why does my favorite Bee AND Optimus (Bayverse) designs have to be in the same movie but be so underutilized!? 1967 Camaro Bee and Evasion Optimus are my favorite Bay designs for them. I need Studio Series toys for both of them so badly!
If you were wondering, my favorite movie alts for Bee (across both universes) are VW Beetle, 1977 Camaro (Reboot), and 1967 Carmaro (AOE)
@@fennekin1750 agreed
I wish he got an upgrade, but didn't just become a copy of stinger. Seeing Bee adapt and become better than stinger would have been cool
Ive said this for years. Stinger should return in other continuites with the AOE design so he can finally claim it as his
Stinger hold his Own Against 4 Autobots is Impressive
Since when?
@@phantomhd7889since forever 😂being able to take on multiple strong opponents has always been impressive
@@Dark-Wolf27we've never seen this take place so it never happened
@@Carpediem357then don't watch this channel
@@ClaudeSpeed32???? What does that have to do with this
These guys are like Deadpool and Wolverine but with their personalities swapped
That's true
yo thats spot on actually
Oh soldier Boy y homelander
I mean bumblebee is yellow like wolverine and while stinger is red like Deadpool
Amazing video. I love Bumblebee’s cheap knockoff line. One thing I’ve wondered about is what happened to Sam’s parents. I know during that last family meeting, he told them to go hide and they were never seen again after that. I wonder what happened to them after Dark Of The Moon.
Good question
Probably gone as Sir Edmund said about Viviane being the last of the Witwickys.
@@TheWarmachine375 makes sense
Probably hunted by Cemetary Wind
@@MaximusBoi-h9q Nah, they were killed by Daytrader. lol
Stinger is the Cliffjumper for the Bay Films
Cliffjumper is a badass, so it’d be interesting to see a version of him take on Stinger in a hypothetical death battle
@@cideofsoos Imagine if they had The Rock voice Stinger being a reference to Cliffjumper and get a bigger role than in TF Prime.
@@TheWarmachine375You're right
He looks nothing like cliffjumper
@@justinjaycaro1935 You can say the same for all Autobots and Decepticons in Bayverse Transformers too.
Sounds like someone is trying to sell some Stinger drones... *I'LL TAKE YOUR ENTIRE STOCK!*
You made some very valid points, and to be honest, I genuinely like Stinger. You’ve helped me appreciate her versatility. While Stinger is physically and technologically superior, I feel that people often overlook Bumblebee's outdated nature and instead focus more on his character and morality. I believe Bumblebee's character is more admirable than Stinger's physical abilities. As Al said in Transformers 1, "It's not the physical or cognitive abilities that make the body, but rather the spark inside it."
That being said, I would have loved to see Stinger in other media-not as a man-made Cybertronian, but as a true Cybertronian created by Shockwave or another Decepticon or Cybertron scientist. It would be interesting to see Stinger designed to resemble Bumblebee and have some sort of relationship with him, perhaps as an antagonist or a foil.
We can see ksi bots & Stinger as the bots who were being trained by Airachnid to fight Quintessons (which is a lie) then they're recruited by Megatron to join the Decepticons & millions of ksi bots join the Decepticons. This thing happening in Tf Two is highly unlikely 😔.
Her?
@@Techno_Halo Probably going off how the character (or the car in the film that would become the character) was originally attached to a character called Widow Maker who was a female character. I suppose the originally commenter was tying the two characters together.
@@Techno_Halo He should not edit his comment or the heart is lost.
KSI: *manage to create an army of man-made Transformers after reverse engineering Cybertronian biology*
MECH: "IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN ME!"
Always found it kinda fucked up how they went on and on about Stinger being superior to Bumblebee who was outdated and antique, like he wasn't a living thing. Even moreso the fact he can't speak is a literal disability he sustained in war.
Honestly I really wish Stinger and Galvatron had bigger roles in this film for such a cool concept of them being revenants and a new breed of cybertronian who basically sold their soul for power under human control until it suited their interests to steal back that power.
All technically true, but they never sold their souls to humans, cuz well, they were never alive before. They were basically just born
cheap knockoff is actually more nicer than how the Autobots act towards each other (real not fake)
_also i’m still hoping stinger gets a new 2.0 figure for studio series eventually_
Stingerer, but stabber in every way!
Yes, please! Studio Series 1.0 is fine, I like him, but man is he desperately in need of a redo
Them: Stinger is just a Bumblebee copy
Stinger: *literally the coolest thing ever*
Bumblebee: "You're just a cheap imitation!"
Stinger: "Oh no, no, no. I'm the upgrade."
I still believe in that theory I read years ago that said Stinger had the memories and abilities of a sentinel, which is why he was so powerful and skilled in battles and could face several Autobots at the same time. 🔥
As much as i love bumblebee he is a bit of a hypocrite. when he kills stinger he says "i hate cheap knock offs" yes stinger was based off bumblebee but he did have alot of diffrences and infact it was bumblebee who got jealous and copyied stingers looks
Ketchup and mustard robots
Underrated. Wait we need a hot dog and a bun
KFC robot vs Mcdonalds robot
They're twins but better
Honestly I always liked the theory about how Sentinel's head was used by KSI to give Stinger better fighting capabilities
MOM! WAKE THE HELL UP! THEORYMUS PRIME UPLOADED!
I hope Stinger returns in the reboot universe as well as TF One universe
I have an interesting theory that’s worth a deep dive: What if the fallen disobeyed the other primes to destroy earth cause he knew it was Unicron all along
I mean it would explain why all the decepticons always wanted Earth destroyed, and why humans were always portrayed as pitiful, nasty, no good doing people in the bay verse. Those movies (outside of a few select people) always seemed to show the worst of the worst in humanity which would be due to humans being “influenced” by the world/ evil transformer humans are a part of
Ironic as Unicron in TF Prime called humanity as parasites and want them terminated.
stinger was cool by design but it's a shame he did not get a lot of screen time
Yeah because once again Michael Bay's terrible writing
@@PearlTheCrystalGem Last I checked Ehren Kruger is the one who did the actual writing for the film, if anything Bay would be to blame for the directing.
I know it's popular to hate on Bay or whatever which is fair but maybe one day people can understand that the actual writing falls at the hands of the actual writers for the films.
This isn't even a "defending Bay" comment, this is a "combating misinformation" comment instead.
@@PearlTheCrystalGem it's not terrible writing because some of the scenes that stinger would have been in would never see the light of day we would have seen bee drift crosshairs and hound go up against stinger but since that costed them money and with the budget the movie had that scene never came to be sure you can blame people for shit writing and what not but aoe writter had a shit ton of ideas for aoe but since the budge fir the movie was so much they couldn't use much of the ideas for the movies since the budget of a movie decides what does and what doesn't get put in for the final cut before it hits theathers
FINALLY someone addresses this guy being stronger than Bumblebee. plus his design is much cooler, the red accompanies this already great Design Perfectly, Stinger is my favorite transformer in the Bayverse and im very dissapointed we havent seen more of him.
Apparently Shockwave was too perfect they only felt the need to give him another head.
For some reason...
Twice the brainpower, if bayverse Cybertronians have brains.
Unless its like nitro zeus and its only a lookalike
CALLING ALL AUTOBOTS!!
Optimus Prime: *scans a new truck alt-mode and reformatts*
Shane Dyson: "That was insane! It was awesome but it was insane right?!"
_Age of extinction soundtrack/music starts rolling out_
"Calling Autobots! Roll Out!" "Come in, Mirage!"
He should be calling all autobits next time he is alone facing like 3 decepticons at once.
When I first saw Age of Extinction, I immediately fell in love with the Stinger bod for both Stinger and Bumblebee. It’s quite a shame that Stinger was not given more screen time
I love doppelgängers.
Stinger is one of my favorite characters
I would love a actual transformer that uses stingers model
Bumblebee has beaten transformers more advanced than him. They didn't know this but the autobots we originally civilian models in most cases.
In Bayverse Transformers comics, the Autobots were the Science Force who want to advance Cybertron's society but forced to take up arms while the Decepticons were the Defense Force who were supposed to protect Cybertron but became Megatron's violent army.
@@TheWarmachine375 Yeah that sounds like a civilian class
Regardless, the Autobots, INCLUDING Bumblebee, has taken foes greater than themselves. Did we forget that in the franchise in general, they have transformers who turn into actual cities? We never truly know what happened back on Cybertron, and I doubt that in the end Stinger bests Bee in combat. Given Bee’s track record.
Another piece of proof: In Rise of the Dark Spark (3DS), Stinger works for Lockdown's mercenaries and is seen to be Lockdown's first lieutenant, since he's the only other named character that works for the mercenaries. Also, he has 140 health, which is just 10 health shy of Optimus and Megatron, meaning that Stinger is the most powerful transformer in the game that isn't the leader of their faction.
0:21 bumblbee killed him so hes not that strong
It's like you're insinuating that Bumblebee is weak, put some respect on my GOAT'S name
@@vondakaze4151 sorry I was saying he's not more stronger that bumblebee cause he's actually my favorite transformer sorry
Bee copied stinger’s body before the fight, making them pretty equal
He had the help of the Dinobot. And Stinger technically is better than Bee. But stinger lost because Bee copied Stinger's body. A superior body structure mixed with all that experience and skill is definitely stronger opponent. Just that the body isn't Bee's.
Bumblebee had help from the dinobot Strafe that's why he won. He was getting beat the whole time lol
Galvatron and Stinger would’ve been able to carry the next movie if Stinger didn’t die.
As a massive Stinger fan, I'm totally accepting this plothole making Stinger one of the strongest chracters 😂
They did this with shockwave in the prior movie. Put him in all the marketing but barely used him
im so glad unique toys is currently doing an MPM figure of Stinger, i genuinely love his design and UT's black magic
the sculpting genuinely seems amazing (has a 100% clean and accurate back too) and the articulation seems really good
i'm 100% picking him up, that figure will do him justice 100%
I'm glad you kept audio from scenes related to the topic at hand in the intro.
This was an Incredible Masterpiece for Stinger. I Honestly Agree Stinger was Truly Underrated and he was an Awesome Rival for Bumblebee.
I’ve been watching these theory videos for a bit and always leave with a newfound appreciation with these characters that haven’t gotten much screen time or were just underutilized. Definitely always just a great watch to either kill time or just be more informed with these movies I love so much. :]
Thanks man, that means a lot 🫡
@@Theorymus you should do this in early 2025 PURPOSE YOUR OWN
HASBRO CINEMATIC UNIVERSE/MULTIVERSE!
YOU HAVE DONE STORIES BASED ON TRANSFORMERS before
So if you got the touch You Got the Power!
I was just thinking about this the other day i watched stinger vs bumblebee.
I wondered how bumblebee got those weapons out of nowhere.
One could say Stinger was in the THICK OF IT and Bumble Bee was SICK OF IT
"I hate cheap knockoffs"
- Bumblebee
I never liked that Bumblebee change his appearance so much in Age of Extinction without evolving into Goldbug
It would be better if stinger and galvatron lived into the last knight
If i was a TF project creator, i would made Stinger as one of few drones, made up by some humans from captured protoforms for they evil plans, and they all would be similar to Bumblebee (In this moment Goldbug). As a result, Goldbug will spare spark of one of this drones, and this drone will take name one of the Cybertron's greatest heroes - Cliffjumper, after which he will become Goldbug's "little brother"
I always thought of the idea of an evil Bumblebee counter-part was a pretty neat idea too
Stinger if given green colours, can actually be a Bayverse version of Wasp from Transformers Animated
Stinger design is by far the best KSI design, way better than Galvatron
I loved stinger since I was a child
I hate cheap knockoffs
I still find it dumb that Megatron and Stinger can literally turn into particles to either transform or escape injury(even the no name KSI Bots turn Decepticons) yet Stinger is still somehow killed and Megatron stopped being Galvatron after one movie (I blame crappy Bay for the story direction)
Just sucks they didn't do more with Stinger.
Stinger from the screen to the ring to pen to the king he doesn't where's his crown but thats what he transforms into
Ah yes, the classic case of “Awesome new character, not enough screen time to show them off”
I think it’s so ironic that stinger is meant to be a copy of Bumblebee, when Bee literally copies his design.
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This is amazing😊
And you will love the KSI drone Stinger when you acknowledge that he was literally supposed to be the Stunticon scout Dead End!💪🔥
I just wish they made a good toy for this one. Stinger is a character I want to see more of in new media kinda like Barricade, Bonecrusher, and Blackout. There are some elements of bayverse that actually have potential and I wish that hasbro allow for new takes like they used to.
Stinger could have survived if it wasn’t the writers 🗣️🔥💯
Bee getting mad at Stinger for existing will forever be ingrained in my memory🚘🐝...😂
Nice video as always Theorymus.
Though it kinda makes sense when you consider the robots in disguise and how scanning transformations work.
This is kind of like how in TFP Optimus had upgrades from the Forge of Solus Prime but humans had to design a vehicle to suit those augmentations but in reverse for Bee and Stinger.
Its basically his usual gear but moved around and redesigned for efficiency as a weapon instead of seeing them as living beings.
I dont know why but until I rewatched this film recently. I thought Stinger was possessed by Starscream.
Finnaly someone who recognized Stinger as a true antagonist. I've liked his design, weapons and vehicle since the first time i saw the movie. And another reason why Bumblebee killed Stinger was because he decapitated him with the claw he copied from stinger
I hoped that despite being a drone Stringer actually gained sentience from the cybetrınian mats inside of him and looked bee as his big brother and joined autobots
8 year old me was quite the dreamer
KSI: Make a superior version of Bumblebee
Bumblebee: *And I took that personally.*
Stinger litteraly 1v1’d Bumblebee for over a damn minute while drift casually one shotting stinger with a throw with his blade😭🙏
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This was the closest thing to cliffjumper before bee movie
My only real issue with stinger is more about the way they wrote bee in this movie. Bee keeps on calling Stinger a cheap knock off, but ends up being the one to copy stinger's look in the end
“Better in every way”
"SON OF A-!!"
It's true that Stinger could've held his own against the Autobots, though it's just as likely that they were simply chasing him away, thus keeping them distracted.
Idk why but ever since I rewatched aoe about 5 years ago stinger gave me a massive waspinator vibe
Cliffjumper: so…. Wuchyur saying is… He’s not just a red Bumblebee?… 🧐
Bumblebee: Bionicle
Stinger: Hero Factory
Make a video on the driller from dark of the moon next pls
in the end bumblebee adjusted himself to look and function like stinger
Now I'm Wondering Why Bee Didn't Keep Stingers Form In The Last Knight
Lunchly aint paying the bills 😭🙏
It’s funny how Stinger does not use the Exact same Colour Combination like the decepticons because their combination was Grey & Red.
I'm TIRED of all the Stinger slander, this is so FIRE 🗣🗣🗣🗣🔥🔥🔥🔥
Not only stinger is strong, but in his vehicle mode... The sound of the pagani huarya electric engine sounds is such seducing to the ears, ngl
Wish we got to see the battle between stinger and the 4 autobots
I feel like there could've been a chance for drift to go crazy with his swords
Stinger has such a badass disign.
Stinger has such an awesome design but none of the mainline toys did him justice
That sounds like another character that's from a game and some shows, Metal Sonic, in a way. Made to outclass the competition, he takes everything that his opponents had and cranked it up even higher, and can fight multiple people at once.
I wish they showed how strong he fight bumblebee 1 vs 1
Yeah, I never realized this, so they designed him based on Bumblebee, but it was actually Bumblebee, who then copied Stinger's appearance.🤔
Stinger just lacks the experience