I was an L-1011 terminal mechanic in Miami back when these and other big radial hogs were flying cargo to the Caribbean. It was awesome when they were pushing max power and had there ADI (alcohol anti-detonate injection) running on a dark night. Six foot long blue flames would pour out the stacks............good times.
59 years ago, my dad took me on a Delta DC7 first class, Midway to Miami, and I will never forget that wonderful experience. The pilot invited me to "help fly the airplane" LOL We were banking right and left and I'm sure that was not in the list of things that were allowed, It was the cat's meow. I still have my Junior pilot's wings LOL. I still run outside when I hear big radials. Dad, if you'e up there watching, thanks again and thanks Douglas for such a beautiful aircraft.
That sound...OMG ...that sound when taking off ..... Those magnificent engines producing a beautiful symphony with the pistons as its musical instruments ! ! !
When those big R3350s sit up for a few days and start from cold there is a lot more smoke as the oil drains down into the bottom cyls. That's why pilot draws 8-12 blades on each engine before he cuts the mags on. During this time vacuum is pulling fuel into the cylinders + the primer shots, and each engine set full rich = a ton of smoke once he throws the mag and all that oil/fuel turn into fire, smoke, and that lusty roar :) Once warmed up startup is usually smokefree unless he overprimes!!
@synthuser interesting for you to say that... those engines are Wright R-3350 engines with power recovery turbines, one of the most efficient aircraft engines ever produced. To put it into perspective, the efficiency is as good as today's car engines. The smoke on startup is oil that has collected in the lower cylinders and is burning off. It doesn't continue once under power.
Aunque no tan rapidos como los actuales, que hermosos y que encanto tenian aquellos DCs, Constellations etc.. Que agradable ver que algunos aun continuan volando.. Un abrazo a los nostalgicos como Yo..
There is a DC4 at Douglas airport been sitting there since the late 80s and if I am not mistaken WW2 flight training museum is making and effort to restore it.
Ran out of room. The P&W 4360 is in the same boat as the Wright 3350, it was designed for 115/145, so with 100LL they have to de-rate the thing. Also, with 100LL, high blower is not allowed. Now OTOH, the P&W 2800 was designed for 100 octane gas, so they can still develop full power on 100LL.
@Fitz A, Douglas chose the Wright engines for the DC-7 because they were more powerful than the DC-6's P&Ws. The Wrights enabled the "Seven" to fly coast-to-coast non-stop (American Airlines flew the first such flight).
Interesting story about this particular plane. For a special ceremony at the Carolina Aviation Museum, Captain Sullenberger and 1st Officer Skyles, pilots of the famous Flight 1549 Hudson Ditching, flew this plane to the museum to attend the opening of the Miracle on the Hudson exhibit. They then left in this plane but after take off the No. 3 engine seized and they had to make an emergency landing. It's now sitting out behind the museum waiting for somebody to buy it since getting a new engine is quite expensive.
Turbo compound 65hp from each turbo with direct drive onto crank....very sweet engine go to Qantas 'Connie' Super Constellation Takeoff with flames (1080p HD) - TH-cam You will see these baby's working at their best!!!
is this the ONE that used to be sitting at the south end of the down town Saint Paul airport that was flown to Florida & restored, many years ago? Nice one .....
@bgbear49, in a video at the Delta Flight Museum's TH-cam channel, Delta's founder C.E. Woolman did a little comparison of the "Seven" with its first passenger aircraft, the Travel Air. Things definitely had changed between 1929 and 1957, when the film was made.
Wyatt Williams that was another DC-7 painted in American Airlines paint job minus titles.that plane was retired and now up in New Smyrna Beach Florida was to be a restaurant never materialized.just sitting and sadly will never fly again.
What is the status of this beautiful classic ?? As a child, I watched all these props, from the DC-3 era onward, departing CLT at night - and they climbed out to the southwest over our house eighteen miles away.
1:07, Man thinks to himself, "I know exactly where the best place to hear this baby start up will be, if only I can hide just behind there". 1:12 Boss turns his back (off camera). Man thinks... "NOW's my chance!" 1:15 "Yep, just keep causally walking and then quickly hide, no attention to be drawn..." 1:21 "I'm hiding and no-one can see me. This is AWESOME". 1:24 Boss says "Hey, get out of there!!!" 1:25 "Darn it!". 1:26 Boss yells, "NOW". 1:27 "Ok, ok..." (Just having a bit of creative fun 😄👍).
Eastern used the Connies for coach (2 + 3 seating), the DC-7B's were used for their "Golden Falcon" (2 + 2) flights--at least until the Electras came onboard. Then they were used for the Golden Falcon service. In March 1960, the DC-8's arrived with 2-class service. First Class was Golden Falcon. Democrats sat in the back.
Whatever happened to "9 blades" then "switch on" for start? Most of the four engines were 16 to 20 blades, as I saw it. Also, anyone see a "fire guard" on engine starting? My, times they are a changin' N-6395T & B-6370
I remember DC7s but I never remember any of them being that smokey when starting engines. I well remember Lockheed Constellations being super smokey everytime they started engines. Maybe the aircraft in this video was super smokey because of its age ?
I know what the difference is between a supercharged and a turbocharged engine, but I'm still not quite sure what the difference was between a turbocharged engine on a normal fighter and the "power recovery" type of turbocharged engines on the Super Constellation and DC7. They called them "power recovery" turbines, but aren't all turbochargers, by definition, "power recovery" devices? What's special about the power recovery turbines on Super Constellations and DC7s that makes them different from other turbocharged engines?
PRT's are exhaust-driven and transfer the extracted power via mechanical connection to the crankshaft. Turbocharger is exhaust-driven and increases intake air density. Supercharger is engine-driven and increases intake air air density.
@@paulmurphy42 More like turbo than a supercharger. The only thing in common between PRT and supercharger is the direct engine coupling. The PRT transfers power to the engine (increasing fuel efficiency), while the supercharger pulls power out of the engine (decreasing fuel efficiency and increasing net power via intake air density).
There were three Power Recovery Turbines- PRTs- on each engine. These were exhaust driven turbines that were positioned in the exhaust ring just aft of the aft cylinder row and connected to the crankshaft via a long shaft with a fluid coupling and a bevel gear. The power generated by the turbines was transferred directly to the crankshaft to add more power. I'm told that each PRT added about 150 extra horsepower to the crankshaft. The PRTs were notoriously pyrotechnical. TWA was reporting ten engine failures every day on Super Constellations (I hate it when they call them Connies) mostly due to PRTs blowing their tops. In addition to the PRTs, the engine also had a conventional integral supercharging system.
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bgbear ditto pal but it was a KLM YUL- AMS and I still have my wings too mine were made of pure plastic and gold paint, priceless. One more thing ruined by political jerks todays children will never experience that view from the cockpit to tell the teacher when she asked what you did that summer. The best part was I then had to take a Connie AMS-PIK (yul Montreal, ams Amsterdam, pik Prestwich Scotland)
I can tell this plane doesn't have p&w engines on it. the p&w engines have that classic deep sound we love. these don't. they sound like wright engines.
Wrong. The Wrights sound as good as or better than the p&w. The audio of this video is not very good. I saw here a video of a Connie with the Wrights R-3350-DA3 Turbo Compound and the deep low bass sound was just incredible.
The low-pitched drone is from the propellers. The DC-7, with 4-bladed props, sounds a higher note than the Connie with 3-bladed props at the same rpm. To my ears, on various video clips, the Connie and the DC-6 sound very similar, with both around a low C at takeoff rpm. The DC-7 sounds the F above it. As a musician I can place them pretty accurately. The R3350 has a bit more gear reduction and thus the engine revs a bit higher for the same prop speed, which could make some difference in the overall tone. I will have to go back and listen to some DC-6 and Connie videos side by side out of curiosity about the details.
I was an L-1011 terminal mechanic in Miami back when these and other big radial hogs were flying cargo to the Caribbean. It was awesome when they were pushing max power and had there ADI (alcohol anti-detonate injection) running on a dark night. Six foot long blue flames would pour out the stacks............good times.
59 years ago, my dad took me on a Delta DC7 first class, Midway to Miami, and I will never forget that wonderful experience. The pilot invited me to "help fly the airplane" LOL We were banking right and left and I'm sure that was not in the list of things that were allowed, It was the cat's meow. I still have my Junior pilot's wings LOL. I still run outside when I hear big radials. Dad, if you'e up there watching, thanks again and thanks Douglas for such a beautiful aircraft.
Fantastic that we have people that can still fly and keep these lovely old aircraft airworthy...may they long continue.
Back in the days when flying was fun. What a drag today!
That sound...OMG ...that sound when taking off ..... Those magnificent engines producing a beautiful symphony with the pistons as its musical instruments ! ! !
DC6 and DC7 are both such beautiful planes.....thanks for the vid.
When those big R3350s sit up for a few days and start from cold there is a lot more smoke as the oil drains down into the bottom cyls. That's why pilot draws 8-12 blades on each engine before he cuts the mags on. During this time vacuum is pulling fuel into the cylinders + the primer shots, and each engine set full rich = a ton of smoke once he throws the mag and all that oil/fuel turn into fire, smoke, and that lusty roar :) Once warmed up startup is usually smokefree unless he overprimes!!
What a plane,and paint job.
There are no words that can justify the absolutely monumentally beautiful this plane is , something saying says it all , bless her.
@synthuser interesting for you to say that... those engines are Wright R-3350 engines with power recovery turbines, one of the most efficient aircraft engines ever produced. To put it into perspective, the efficiency is as good as today's car engines. The smoke on startup is oil that has collected in the lower cylinders and is burning off. It doesn't continue once under power.
EASTERN always had the most beautiful
colors/logos on their Aircraft,
piston or turbine (IMO).
Worked there 25 years
Holy cow - I travelled a couple of times with a DC-7 when I was a kid, but I can't remember THAT much smoke at startup!
Just went and saw a DC-7 on static display on Gran Canaria, it was awesome!
HAPPY TO SEE THIS OLD GREAT MACHINE STILL FLYING!!
I remember them coming and going from Lambert Field in St.Louis,Mo. Very nice aircraft. Those were the days. It was a very different world back then.
Hey, thanks for the follow up information. 59 inches of Hg!! Wow! Can you believe that! Now that's a tall column we're talking about.
Since I was a child I had loved this airplane. Beautiful machine.
Amazing plane
She's a fine ship Captain,
I can see your pride.
Aunque no tan rapidos como los actuales, que hermosos y que encanto tenian aquellos DCs, Constellations etc..
Que agradable ver que algunos aun continuan volando..
Un abrazo a los nostalgicos como Yo..
I am glad Delta is restoring onr
Beautiful aircraft......lovingly restored. Looks and sounds great!
There is a DC4 at Douglas airport been sitting there since the late 80s and if I am not mistaken WW2 flight training museum is making and effort to restore it.
Ran out of room. The P&W 4360 is in the same boat as the Wright 3350, it was designed for 115/145, so with 100LL they have to de-rate the thing. Also, with 100LL, high blower is not allowed.
Now OTOH, the P&W 2800 was designed for 100 octane gas, so they can still develop full power on 100LL.
I was there for this, and Oshkosh is a long long way from Western Australia
@Fitz A, Douglas chose the Wright engines for the DC-7 because they were more powerful than the DC-6's P&Ws. The Wrights enabled the "Seven" to fly coast-to-coast non-stop (American Airlines flew the first such flight).
1:14 feller nearly gave me a heart attack!
what a beautiful plane
they may be a good engine but they are delicate to deal with on power setting's. and complex to work on.
Interesting story about this particular plane. For a special ceremony at the Carolina Aviation Museum, Captain Sullenberger and 1st Officer Skyles, pilots of the famous Flight 1549 Hudson Ditching, flew this plane to the museum to attend the opening of the Miracle on the Hudson exhibit. They then left in this plane but after take off the No. 3 engine seized and they had to make an emergency landing. It's now sitting out behind the museum waiting for somebody to buy it since getting a new engine is quite expensive.
I read that the owners had at least 2 spare engines.
DC-7, L-1649, B377, ... The best of the cream of piston airliners...
Great video: This prop aircraft is awesome!
Beautiful bird, thnx for sharing.
Some of DC-7s survivors.
These aircraft are Spectacular at night on start up 🔥🛩✈️🛫🛬
Awesome:)! thank you for sharing with us!!
Beautiful!
WOW...all of that SMOKE !
To the guy who ran through the No1and No.2 propellor arcs TWICE!, What were you thinking?
Turbo compound 65hp from each turbo with direct drive onto crank....very sweet engine
go to Qantas 'Connie' Super Constellation Takeoff with flames (1080p HD) - TH-cam
You will see these baby's working at their best!!!
is this the ONE that used to be sitting at the south end of the down town Saint Paul airport that was flown to Florida & restored, many years ago? Nice one .....
@bgbear49, in a video at the Delta Flight Museum's TH-cam channel, Delta's founder C.E. Woolman did a little comparison of the "Seven" with its first passenger aircraft, the Travel Air. Things definitely had changed between 1929 and 1957, when the film was made.
When it's not at air shows this aircraft resides at the museum at CLT airport. FLY NAVY!!!
Beautiful Aircraft :D
Excelente avión 👍., Sin duda alguna 😌
Los aviones de hélices retienen toda l magia de volar. Fantástico.
stranded in Charlotte NC,hope it flies again someday
I thought this one flew to St. Maarten from Miami or is that another DC7
Wyatt Williams that was another DC-7 painted in American Airlines paint job minus titles.that plane was retired and now up in New Smyrna Beach Florida was to be a restaurant never materialized.just sitting and sadly will never fly again.
What is the status of this beautiful classic ?? As a child, I watched all these props, from the DC-3 era onward, departing CLT at night - and they climbed out to the southwest over our house eighteen miles away.
1:07, Man thinks to himself, "I know exactly where the best place to hear this baby start up will be, if only I can hide just behind there".
1:12 Boss turns his back (off camera). Man thinks... "NOW's my chance!"
1:15 "Yep, just keep causally walking and then quickly hide, no attention to be drawn..."
1:21 "I'm hiding and no-one can see me. This is AWESOME".
1:24 Boss says "Hey, get out of there!!!"
1:25 "Darn it!".
1:26 Boss yells, "NOW".
1:27 "Ok, ok..."
(Just having a bit of creative fun 😄👍).
If a radial isn't dripping oil it means that its out of oil lol
What DATE did this flight take place. I was at Oshkosh but didn't see it.
@neverboardproduction Yep!!! That's EXACTLY what it smells like!!! Have a '65 GTO Convertible with a Tripower 389 that smells EXACTLY like that!!!
using the Berlin Airlift did he use the ILF landing system
Flew these as engineer Co pilot and captain. Fine air plane. About 800 hrs
does anyone know if this DC-7 is still flying.
Flew from Wisconsin- did it fly to , LA- or London?
Eastern used the Connies for coach (2 + 3 seating), the DC-7B's were used for their "Golden Falcon" (2 + 2) flights--at least until the Electras came onboard.
Then they were used for the Golden Falcon service.
In March 1960, the DC-8's arrived with 2-class service. First Class was Golden Falcon.
Democrats sat in the back.
@elmerexpress well i dont know how old you are, but i presume that the dc-7 wasnt as new or young as it used to be when you flew on them.
I flew on it ...the Panagra dc7 ...from Santiago de Chile to Buenos Aires in 1955
Over the Andes mountains...
Actually they are radials, not rotarys:)
Sounds like my old Dodge
Wasn't it 115-145 (purple) avg gas?
did anybody notice "dougy" the yellow happy dc-3 on the background?
its the one with the "D" on it's tail. anybody got footage of it flying?
Good Eye. Never did get a chance to jump out her.
I believe it was Tuesday, July 27.
Whatever happened to "9 blades" then "switch on" for start? Most of the four engines were 16 to 20 blades, as I saw it. Also, anyone see a "fire guard" on engine starting?
My, times they are a changin' N-6395T & B-6370
That's because they don't kno how to ticket prime switch just so til it catches...gotta know your bird and procedures....
I remember DC7s but I never remember any of them being that smokey when starting engines. I well remember Lockheed Constellations being super smokey everytime they started engines. Maybe the aircraft in this video was super smokey because of its age ?
I doubt you can get 3000 hp per engine on 100LL.
3200 hp on 115/145. On 100LL, manifold pressures need to be reduced and about 2800 hp are being produced from each engine.
Wright engines always burned more oil than the Pratt & Whitneys....
Evidence?
@@stanley2004 Actual experience operating them in various aircraft......
I know what the difference is between a supercharged and a turbocharged engine, but I'm still not quite sure what the difference was between a turbocharged engine on a normal fighter and the "power recovery" type of turbocharged engines on the Super Constellation and DC7. They called them "power recovery" turbines, but aren't all turbochargers, by definition, "power recovery" devices? What's special about the power recovery turbines on Super Constellations and DC7s that makes them different from other turbocharged engines?
PRT's are exhaust-driven and transfer the extracted power via mechanical connection to the crankshaft. Turbocharger is exhaust-driven and increases intake air density. Supercharger is engine-driven and increases intake air air density.
@@1flyride Many thanks for such a clear reply...so the PRT is really a mixture of both supercharger and turbocharger?
@@paulmurphy42 More like turbo than a supercharger. The only thing in common between PRT and supercharger is the direct engine coupling. The PRT transfers power to the engine (increasing fuel efficiency), while the supercharger pulls power out of the engine (decreasing fuel efficiency and increasing net power via intake air density).
There were three Power Recovery Turbines- PRTs- on each engine. These were exhaust driven turbines that were positioned in the exhaust ring just aft of the aft cylinder row and connected to the crankshaft via a long shaft with a fluid coupling and a bevel gear. The power generated by the turbines was transferred directly to the crankshaft to add more power. I'm told that each PRT added about 150 extra horsepower to the crankshaft.
The PRTs were notoriously pyrotechnical. TWA was reporting ten engine failures every day on Super Constellations (I hate it when they call them Connies) mostly due to PRTs blowing their tops. In addition to the PRTs, the engine also had a conventional integral supercharging system.
Is this still in service?
Stuck at Carolinas Aviation Museum in Charlotte NC for a couple years or more. Needs an engine I think. Paint is fading.
@@skeptical2649 I thought this was the one actively flying from Miami international airport to princess Juliana airport in st. Maarten
only 3350s?? i thaugt it was 4360s!!
COMO 30 GALONES DE COMBUSTIBLE PARA ARRANCAR LOS 4 MOTORES
星型のレシプロよりも、重油式のディーゼルエンジンの方が出力高そう、音も静かそうだし！？！？
The poor girl is just so old now!
Check the gas and fill the oil.
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There counter rotating DUH!
Actually they aren't. All the engines turn clockwise viewed from the back.
bgbear ditto pal but it was a KLM YUL- AMS and I still have my wings too mine were made of pure plastic and gold paint, priceless. One more thing ruined by political jerks todays children will never experience that view from the cockpit to tell the teacher when she asked what you did that summer. The best part was I then had to take a Connie AMS-PIK (yul Montreal, ams Amsterdam, pik Prestwich Scotland)
Engine start is low too much!!
I can tell this plane doesn't have p&w engines on it. the p&w engines have that classic deep sound we love. these don't. they sound like wright engines.
Wrong. The Wrights sound as good as or better than the p&w. The audio of this video is not very good. I saw here a video of a Connie with the Wrights R-3350-DA3 Turbo Compound and the deep low bass sound was just incredible.
The low-pitched drone is from the propellers. The DC-7, with 4-bladed props, sounds a higher note than the Connie with 3-bladed props at the same rpm. To my ears, on various video clips, the Connie and the DC-6 sound very similar, with both around a low C at takeoff rpm. The DC-7 sounds the F above it. As a musician I can place them pretty accurately. The R3350 has a bit more gear reduction and thus the engine revs a bit higher for the same prop speed, which could make some difference in the overall tone. I will have to go back and listen to some DC-6 and Connie videos side by side out of curiosity about the details.
Que mala toma del despegue, camarógrafo perdido
is that part of the Confederate Air Force lol
Not amusing.