John Fischer and the Oakland A's do not have a plan
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 27 พ.ค. 2024
- John Fischer is moving the Oakland A's to Sacramento for a few season before moving them to Las Vegas. Guest host Sully, from Locked On MLB, lays out the reasons Fischer is seemingly making things up as he goes for the A's future. This move to Sacramento is a huge disservice to A's fans but it also points to the lack of a plan. How does this news affect your interest in the Athletics for this season? Also, the A's actually had a good weekend on the field.
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Thank you for saying all the things that you said about what it's like to be in A's fan and what it's like to go to an A's game. You are spot on. I've been an A's fan since 1968 and have been to many A's games in my lifetime including the World Series in 1972 A's fans go to games to cheer on the A's and because of the love of baseball . In 2018 I went to see the Atlanta Braves play the Orioles at SunTrust Park in Atlanta and the spirit - the love of baseball and the love of the team reminded me so much of being at a game at the Oakland Coliseum! It was fun❤ the crowd was raucous and noisy and it just reminded me of being at the Coliseum . The Athletics won't last in Sacramento and they will definitely fizzle out in Las Vegas. Wherever they go they will always be the Oakland A's
As a Marlins fan and lifelong Expos fan, I definitely commiserate with A's fans.
Ouch! My condolences!
It’s so bad we even lost our locked on host 😭🤣 jk appreciate you filling in sully!
What has happened in Oakland is disgusted. This man should have been forced to sell the team.
What happened in Oakland is disgusting, but I am not talking about the A’s. Oakland in general is disgusting. Every business is leaving, why should the A’s be different? Fix the city maybe another team will relocate there? There is no money to build any team anything? Good thing is the city found millions for the Howard Terminal project so maybe they can hire more essential services workers and bring that city back to respectability.
The citizens should force everyone in government who ruined the city to quit.
@@vincentramirez8188 Oakland has the best weather in the Bay Area and they even screwed that up.
Should you be forced to sell your house?
@@poposaynogo1 The Dodgers were forced to sell a decade ago
We’ve been season ticket holders for the A’s since after the strike. We attended 40+ games per year. If they leave Oakland, we won’t be watching baseball anymore. We are not switching teams and we are not going to Vegas. Fischer should be punished by MLB for the damage he’s doing to the game of baseball.
New Giants Fan?
Why couldnt you convince more friends and family to go to the games and to support a better Oakland?
@@MA_808 Couldn't the A's have made the experience of supporting the team not be such a labor of love?
@@MA_808isn’t that the A’s marketing department’s job? They haven’t been doing it for s while.
I am 83 years old and saw my first game in the late 1940s at Shibe park. I think I’m loosing my brain cells,but I have a hunch (WISH????????) that the A’s will never play in Las Vegas. I will be going to see the A’s play in Philly (grew up a 2 Streeter in South Philly) this summer. Hoping for a miracle!
I agree with everything you said. Thanks. Will be following you. Cannot go back to the Coliseum anymore sorry. Been an A’s fan since 1971. If they end up in Sacramento and Fisher is no longer the owner and they are not run like a minor league team, I could restart my A’s fandom…..maybe.
Born in the East Bay and grew up in the North and guess what, now reside in Vegas! We’d like to have a mlb team here but personally I don’t want this team moving here. Been to many many A’s games but it’s always home games against the Giants, Yankees, Red Sox, and others where you’d have a large contingent of the opposing teams fans, and it will be no different in Vegas except the attendance will be larger. The MLBPA will make sure Sutter Health is up to par by next year, there’s no backing out on that. It would be nice to have the A’s team name stay in Oakland while Vegas gets a new team name. People couldn’t believe how fast Allegiant came together and I’m assuming the new ballpark will come to fruition by 2028. I bought tickets to the Sept 26 game and I’m looking forward to that game. The city of Oakland can now finally move on with redevelopment of the area.
Thanks for filling in, I missed Locked On A's. Not a bay area guy. I live in New England and I hate the Red Sox. What happened to Wayne if you can let me know. I always loved his passion for the A's. Thanks again and great show.
I will pass a message to Wayne
I didn't follow baseball much all my life. That changed 6 years ago when my wife and I went to an A's game. They won the game, we got to meet Dallas Braden, and we walked the bases afterwards and we got our picture with Stomper. I was hooked onto the A's. We went to some more games and Fan Fest before the world changed, and I even bought merchandise.
The events the past couple of years have been terrible and it's shown that the MLB owners have treated generations of A's fans throughout Northern California as expendable. We will not cheer for the Giants or even the A's if they still move to Vegas. We'll be done with MLB.
It was mentioned that the funding for the Las Vegas stadium is gaining momentum from people who are against it. That isn't good for someone who wants to move a ball club to Vegas. Oh well, Karma at it's finest! Not to mention, A's owe Oakland somewhere around $97M for breaching the Howard Terminal deal, if I heard that right. Like I said about Karma.
There’s no A’s without Oakland in front of it. Fisher is undercover sf Giants fan that wants the A’s out of the Bay Area and once the A’s are in Vegas until 2030 he will sale the team to a owner that will keep them there in Las Vegas.
The last Dive Bar applied to have rights to the name Sacramento A's and Las Vegas A's. Any thoughts?
Thank you for being temp host!! Missed my podcast
I’m a Giants fan but I still want to catch at least one good A’s game at the O.CO. I’ve been there for previous Giants vs A’s games and a few Raiders games when they were still in Oakland. I got to see Charles Woodson pick off Peyton Manning for the first time and he got two interceptions that game against Denver. I have beautiful memories at that old stadium, one of my favorites is taking my niece to her first sports game/Raiders game. I’ll definitely have to go and say my farewell this season.
Sacramento area A’s fans have been Supporting the A’s for years So this is Win for the A’s😮
Only to lose them at the drop of a hat
A's Fans! Fischer has just given you FAN FREE AGENCY! wanna be a Sacto A? stay in the Bay Area with the Giants? go back to a childhood favorite team?
Been an A’s fan my whole life, born in ‘72. I’ve always loved baseball but only Oakland A’s baseball. When this move was announced I said what team will I be a fan of now? That’s when I realized I will never be a fan of another team I’m done with baseball. I’m probably going to a few games this year then I’m done. Unless fisher sells and the Vegas deal falls through I’m going to find other ways to spend my time.
Bless you for doing this, Sully!
Thanks Sully! As far as games I’ll go to two this year. One with good seats and one with the family up in the Stomping Ground
I plan on going to a few, but I am conflicted. I want to support the players but dislike the ownership group.
It is ownership plan and simple. When Mr Haas was the owner that place was always full
It is amazing how the A's surpassed the Giants in everyway when the Haas family owned it. I remember going to games in Oakland in the late 1980s and the place was jam packed. Meanwhile there were always seats available at the Stick
It wasn't always full. 8 of the 15 years that Haas owned it the team finished no better than 11th of the 14 teams in average attendance, and not reaching 17,000 in attendance in 5 of those years. How quickly people forget. There was a 5 year stretch where the fans came out, and it coincides with their 3 year World Series run. That stat alone is very telling.
I'm a Phillies fan and this stinks for MLB the A's need a new Stadium bad . MLB and the team don't have a plan MLB is focusing on the expansion fee for tye 2 teams coming in down the road. The way MLB has handle the whole ordeal is crazy the season just started and you tell the fan base your team is leaving i think this maybe should have came out mid season it's seems they are just trying to get the fans not to come to the Stadium like in Major league 2 but this isn't a movie . What is even worst the A's didn't tell fans the team was leaving for Sutter Field or what ever it's call people did . I wanted MLB to expand for the longest time now i hope MLB chokes on the the Expansion Fee's. And as sloppy as this whole move seems like it's to me i don't see them going to Vegas who don't want the team watch them get stuck in Sacramento for 5 to 7 years pushing back MLB expansion
Thank you for this. Love to see outside voices with good takes on the situation. Been an A’s fan my whole life and CANNOT follow them to Vegas and continue to support this HORRIBLE ownership. The organization has been cursed with almost solely terrible owners (Besides the Haas family) who do not care about their fans, players or even about winning. Hope this falls through so Fisher has to sell and a Bay Area group can swoop in, but i’ve been wishing for this my whole life, and MLB will continue to do nothing about it.
So well said. I had to share your vlog with other longtime A's fans.
Think im go to one last game
I went to the last raiders game in Oakland. Going to be sad to not go there anymore. Fond memories.
I live in Sacramento so next year will be there more.
As an old school Oilers fan i feel y'all's pain. But as usual ignorant and stubborn politicians plus heartless and greedy owners equals no Baseball in Oakland.
In a perfect world, A's stay in Sacramento with Vivek and Fisher or Lacob/Ellison/etc take them to San Jose
Vegas and Nashville get expansion
Rays move to Orlando
Marlins go to Utah
Marlins ballpark gets converted to MLS or something
Thank you for being so knowledgeable about the Oakland A’s!
Family held season tickets for 50 years. 30 in the same seats. Loved those seats! So many memories. Passed from my father-in-law to his son and I a few years ago. This year we did not renew. Refuse to give one cent to this owner. Most of our long-time section-mates stopped renewing prior to last year. "Two-by-four to the face" is the truth. I've been very sad this past week. The Oakland bashing is really disgusting, especially the blaming of the fans. How much loyalty is demanded when the season ticket package prices doubled a few years ago, perks were slashed, the Coliseum allowed to erode visibly, including long walks to food, etc, and and EVERY GOOD PLAYER traded away year after year. The A's were great at finding the young future stars of the league. But they were always traded. I'd like to see a fan base who would continue to fill the seats given the actual facts of the way this team was allowed to fall to minor league levels. We had our last moment at the end of last season. Including the amazing protest game last season which was our communal moment with all the fans.
Could they end back up in Oakland, if things fall through in Las Vegas??
Not with Fisher as the owner
Sutter Health Park is a minor-league facility that is not up to major-league standards. The MLBPA should veto the Sacramento deal.
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The Athletics moving to Sacramento is a win for the region IF Oakland can get NHL team at Coliseum Arena. Lets get this thing right for everybody by getting NHL to Oakland !!!
Thanx for Caring , Sully- Please, please Stay on Top of the Nevada Schools over Stadiums Referendum getting on the Nevada ballot this November & Derailing this Bogus 9 1/2 acre Tropicana Stadium deal!- Fisher & Manfred know they're in Major trouble once the Nevada voter's get a Say - Getting Fisher to Sell would be Greatest GOOD RIDDANCE ever for A's fans!- & if U attend any 2024 A's Coliseum games do what Another fan Suggested- 1)buy the Ticket from a Resale outlet so Fisher gets zero- 2)Take BART so No Parking money going to Fisher - 3) Buy NOTHING at the Coliseum (Take a Water bottle & Snacks)- GREEN & GOLD Forever
you spelled John Fisher wrong
A's will play in Sacramento for decades
And still be called "The A's"
Sacto A's!!! Vegas A's!!! It's a done deal in both cities!!! John Greedy Fisher!!! It sucks!!!
You're deranged.
What you should be asking, for the people in charge of the city of Oakland and the Alameda County, what is their plan in attracting major sports? These people have now lost the Raiders, Warriors, now the A's. There's a pattern here, do these people really have the sports fans in mind?
My first game that I can remember was 1977
not a great year for the A's
It’s not the distance, psychological!
No more merchandise
No go to Sac
I’ll go to 20+ games this year
The issue imop is funding these stadiums should not fall on Oakland residents
These have been the community’s teams not the city’s.
Vegas uses their “State” resources and Oakland shouldn’t have to compete in a gun fight with a knife because we can’t compete on that level. Raiders case in point.
The State of CA should have helped. But now that the A’s are in their backyard in Sacramento, they probably will.
I was born & raised in Oakland, grow up a die hard Raiders & A's fan I couldn't Afford Raider tickets growing up as a kid but the A's games were in budget I love goin to see my A's. I have to have some Respect for myself. I will no longer support those teams anymore. They are sell outs, thier is no good reason imo why Oakland couldn't keep there teams just feels like a bad dream but is real
I probably be going to three
Going to zero games this year, next year, and every year to follow.
Fisher and the A’s do have a plan…it’s to leave Oakland.
The ones without a plan were Oakland and Alameda County, that couldn’t get their act together years ago, to get a stadium built. Just like they lost the Raiders twice, lost the Warriors, they now lost the A’s.
Leave to WHERE?
Losing the Raiders twice isn't the fault of the fans. It's the fans who are hurt. Not billionaire boys or inept politicians. The Warriors left Oakland in the midst of sellouts! The F was that? That arena wasn't falling apart. It was fine. That was just a greed move. Oakland is STILL paying off Mt. Davis....shouldn't the Raiders have contributed to that before leaving? Why the hate against Oakland dude? There are buyers who would BUY the team and they could remain in Oakland. What about that? Should that be at least explored? I don't get this seemingly joy or at least smearing A's fans face in it - That's why you lost blah blah and In & Out Burger. Man I can't help where I was born. I'm just trying to go to work and live my life and pay bills. I love the team man. This owner has NEVER liked Oakland and the clown before him (Lew Wolfe) tried to move the team 2 times (Fremont & San Jose).
@@someguy7222 Let’s be honest, the A’s fans didn’t show up when it mattered most. 11,000 fans are less being the average attendance? That is minor league ball park attendance stats.
You say hate for Oakland? It’s the politicians you voted in that wrecked the once great city.
Crime is out of control, homelessness out of control, businesses being robbed daily. Highway patrol being forced to try to maintain order, after you destroyed your own police force. And then you wonder why businesses, including the A’s, want to leave?
@@LockedOnMLB Anywhere is better. They would have left for San Jose, but the Giants don’t want the A’s in the Bay Area.
@@ivandragomiloff2356 Saying something vague is nice. But they have zero plan right now. There is no stadium approved even in paper form in 2024 and supposedly it will be approved, paid for, built and ready to go by 2028? Really?
Oakland as a city has fallen apart. I believe Sacramento will end up with the team and with a Vivek led group buying the team. Vegas will end up with an expansion
I agree with Sacramento. The appeal of Vegas as an MLB market has completely baffled me
Neither the City nor County of Sacramento have ANY funds available to help construct a new MLB stadium.
West Sacramento (where they’ll play) is in Yolo County and neither has the financial capacity to help the A’s construct a new stadium.
In fact, Raley field (Sutter Park) a Triple A park was funded by the County of Sacramento because West Sacraments and Yolo County lacked $$$$$$.
I don’t care whether the A’ come or go but A’s fans should be thankful that the team will play temporarily in Sacramento until Vegas is ready. But there’s no reason why Oakland fans and politicians can’t fight for the A’s.
People I’ve spoken to in the Sacramento region think this is just Sacramento auditioning for an expansion franchise.
@@Dweller415 Las Vegas isn't a given either. The A's won't go anywhere. listen to what David samson is saying. The guy did this song and dance previously. As an A's fan I am thankful. West sac or whatever yolo county has the land available without any bs blocks like Oakland had.
Buy Game Tickets have Sale Tax Uesd for las Vegas schools And A’s r move to Las Vegas Nv
It seems pretty simple, they play 2024 in Oakland, then three seasons in Sacramento, then move into their new stadium in 2028. That seems like a plan to me.
And the stadium will be....................?
@@LockedOnMLB In Las vegas they build things unlike California which only builds piles of human poop on city streets.
@@LockedOnMLBFar from being done
@@michaelleroy9281 they are more likely to be playing in Sacramento than Las Vegas in 2028
One more season in Oakland, three seasons in Sacto, then on to Vegas forever!!! It sucks!!!
Neither the City nor County of Sacramento have ANY funds available to help construct a new MLB stadium.
West Sacramento (where they’ll play) is in Yolo County and neither has the financial capacity to help the A’s construct a new stadium.
In fact, Raley field (Sutter Park) a Triple A park was funded by the County of Sacramento because West Sacraments and Yolo County lacked $$$$$$.
I don’t care whether the A’ come or go but A’s fans should be thankful that the team will play temporarily in Sacramento until Vegas is ready. But there’s no reason why Oakland fans and politicians can’t fight for the A’s.
People I’ve spoken to in the Sacramento region think this is just Sacramento auditioning for an expansion franchise.
The name of the A’s going forward is the Athletics (‘s)
I’ve taken the train from downtown Sacramento to the Coliseum. Oakland/East Bay fans can do the same.
2 this year. None for Sacramento
Excellent podcast per usual. Honestly Sacramento might just be the perfect home for the worst pro sports team owner since Charles Finley 👈
You vote with your dollars. Boycott any and all games from here on out.
Do what you want. At this point you are screaming at the tides
The Plan: Now that the move is final, A's fans may start going to games knowing 2024 is the last time they'll see the A's play in Oakland. Play in Sac rent free for 3 or 4 years, only paying for needed upgrades to the ballpark. If Vegas works out, move there. If it doesn't, work with Vivek to build a new MLB ballpark in Sac and stay there.
Lots of "Ifs" in that plan
Will the game on September 26 the last one be a sellout?
@@michaelleroy9281 I hope so
Sacto A's!!! Vegas A's!!! It's a done deal in both cities!!! It sucks!!! John Greedy Fisher!!!
I think Fisher will move to LV no matter what, to set up a billion dollar profit sale in a few years.
it's a flip job. in the long run vegas will destroy the a's. (domes don't draw and vegas is full of carpet baggers who already fans of someone else.)
Fisher bought the team in order to move it
I'm shocked that beane is still with the org.
He has hurt his legacy by sticking around
Do you mean the name of the stadium???? Who knows. Too early.
What stadium? Where is it going to be built? What plan has been approved? How will it be paid for? And when will it be opened? And how can these all be done in time for the 2028 season seeing that it is basically vague plans and nothing specific.
Im a Yankee fan so what's happening to your team is outrageous abd is a stain on MLB 🤬👎🏻 I do have a proper name as The A's just isn't enough... So I hereby propose this as the proper name should be as the teams current condition is The Homeless A's ijs imo
the PhiladelphiaKansasCityOakland SacramentoLasVegas A's?
I have heard worse
The California Commuters!!! Ooops, the USA commuters!!!
Games = Zero
Apartments may be there, but no way in hell a Best Buy is built (Best Buy will be a memory by 2028, when the A's "move" to Vegas)
I said that tongue in cheek
Vivek is Fishers house boy
The A's will definitely go to Vegas sooner or later!!! It's written in stone!!! It really sucks on ice!!!
The A's plan. Move to Las Vegas. Have a lot more people in the stands. Make more money.
Its time "Locked on" started to stop being a troll and started actually broadcasting the future of the A's, which is finally bright. The Coliseum sucks. You need a telescope to see the players.
I have been to many games in Oakland. I am aware of its problems. The move to Vegas isn't much of a plan right now. They have no approved stadium, the funding is questionable, the city support is marginal at best and markets like Vegas, which has a giant transplanted population, do not support new teams. See the attendance issues of Florida and issues in Arizona.
Not 100% sure where I acted like a Troll here but I am always open to suggestions. But it is a fact, not an opinion, that the leaving of Oakland has been dreadfully unprepared and the future of where they will play in the future is up in the air. Whether or not Vegas will support an MLB team, let alone a subpar one, is far from certain.
Thanks for watching
@@LockedOnMLB So you listen to much to "the internet" and not actual facts. And like "the internet" does, it listens to who it wants and ignores those they don't.
Its amazing to me that people have zero understanding how large scale and complicated projects are made and financed. Its takes time. Even at times years. Like the site selection was. It took time and a nudge to get Ballys to agree. That nudge was Red Rock. Why not Red Rock? Because they are non -Union. Ballys is union. Therefore the Unions put pressure on the NV legislature IN FAVOR of the bill.
Outsiders say "Look at how unprepared!", In reality its an adaptable plan. Its got Ballys to accept the deal the A's wanted and said for a long time their prime location --- the corner of Tropicana and The Strip.
Same for funding for this. Many partners are deciding their piece right now.
Same for the move to Sacramento. It was leaked weeks ago Sacramento was the location. Then, not. Why? To try to get Oakland to come to the table. Did they? No. They had their chance and blew it Guess what-- VOILA' --the next day a deal in Sacramento is announced. I'm shocked, shocked that they did this "overnight".
What you see as DISORGANIZED is simply negotiating the best deal. But the bottom line is this. 1) the A's are moving to Las Vegas full stop. 2) they will draw more people there than Oakland (duh) 3) as this "small TV market" stuff, its the size of Milwaukee or Pittsburgh and they seem OK-- but those cities don't draw 43 Million visitors and have 60,000 hotel rooms a 10 minute walk away, 4) the stadium will be built because very powerful / very wealthy / very connected organizations (including Labor Unions) want it. And they always get what they want. So the A's will have a new future. Its time to report what the future is and stop worrying about the past you can do NOTHING to reverse. Once the 30-0 Vote from MLB happened, there was never a chance to go back. That's just fact.
The future is MLB in Sin City. At some point that will start to sink in. For the people of Las Vegas, they knew this 2 years ago. It was inevitable. Only the details needed to be sorted out.
I have been to an A’s game at the Oakland Coliseum. It’s an absolute dump. Bad food, bad seats, terrible sight lines, and the biggest reason nobody shows up. The fans, all 1500 of them, are great. Sorry they are losing the team. The new location, Sacramento for 3 or 4 years, will have more attendance than Oakland for the last 5 years.
A’s r go to Las Vegas Nv
Sound advice for anyone involved in this mess...if Ron Burkle calls, don't answer