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  • @smoot5868
    @smoot5868 3 ปีที่แล้ว +41

    This is so cool. It's clearly Greek and you can pick up a few things here and there, but the whole is still unintelligible. Truly fascinating.

    • @georgep6495
      @georgep6495 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Not unintelligible at all, it is different and "strange", but fully intelligible to a native Greek speaker.

  • @AL-grhvc
    @AL-grhvc 2 ปีที่แล้ว +64

    I'm from Türkiye and I'd say this man is a typical Turkish uncle from the Blacksea region but here he speaks fluent Pontiaki 😯 this is just amazing..all praises to him for learning and keeping the language alive after hundreds of years and I profoundly hope he passes it to his offspring too.

    • @olbiomoiros
      @olbiomoiros 2 ปีที่แล้ว +40

      Only that he’s Greek, and his people suffered atrocious persecution…

    • @Roma_invicta
      @Roma_invicta 2 ปีที่แล้ว +25

      Most of us Greeks that came from pontus still speak the languages till today

    • @tassop1128
      @tassop1128 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Would you say that his accent is similar to the accent of Black Sea Turkish speakers?

    • @AL-grhvc
      @AL-grhvc 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      @@tassop1128 yes, a little..the way he talks though is very local Black Sea..

    • @fotiniadamidou9013
      @fotiniadamidou9013 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Hair....turk degil...
      Karadenizli Rum...pontus.

  • @manolisgerakios1788
    @manolisgerakios1788 2 ปีที่แล้ว +30

    I understood almost everything as a Greek from Rhodes

  • @koukou9085
    @koukou9085 ปีที่แล้ว +48

    Sounds so much like Greek Cypriot. I know mainland Greeks hate it, but I feel a little bit proud that together with the likes of Pontic Greek and Greiko in southern Italy, we’ve all managed to preserve some of the language of our wonderful common ancestors. Let’s not lose these endangered dialects, we should teach them more in schools. It’s also a wonderful way to really unite Hellenism. These regions where these dialects are still spoken probably had to endure some of the most horrible events and still fought for and kept their ancestral tongues alive. Bravo ❤ 🇬🇷

    • @nikostheofanidis9970
      @nikostheofanidis9970 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Bro the Pontic Greek accent is 100 times better than modern Greek, Pontic Greek have heavy nice accent, and Cypriot Greek is very good and have some commons with ancient Greek accent. Modern Greek isn't sound good

    • @Evangreenninja
      @Evangreenninja 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      ​@@nikostheofanidis9970 Μη το λες αυτό όμως όλες οι διάλεκτοι κι όλα τα ιδιώματα της Ελληνικής έχουν τα δικά τους χαρακτηριστικά που τις διαφοροποιούν, εγώ προσωπικά εκτιμώ και τη δημοτική και τα κυπριακά και ποντιακά και κρητικά κλπ🇬🇷💯

    • @JohnLask
      @JohnLask 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Modern greeks don't hate greek cypriot

    • @ΝτινοςΚωνσταντινιδης-ρ6ο
      @ΝτινοςΚωνσταντινιδης-ρ6ο 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@JohnLask
      Γράφεις εκφέροντας γνώμη εντελώς ανεύθυνα καί λές ανοησίες .
      Εμείς οι Έλληνες όχι μόνον αγαπάμε τούς Έλληνες Κυπρίους αδελφούς μας ,
      αλλά είμαστε έτοιμοι γιά ό,τι χρειαστεί καί γιά κάθε θυσία που θά απαιτηθεί γιά τά αδέλφια μας στήν Κύπρο .
      Ποιός είσαι εσύ που εκφράζεις άποψη γιά τούς Έλληνες μέ τέτοια απύθμενη επιπολαιότητα καί τόσο ανεύθυνα ?
      Άντε ! Συμμαζέψου !

  • @MCMLXXXVICCXII
    @MCMLXXXVICCXII 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    A great story Ioannis narrated with great acting! His attitude is very familiar to us too. Thanks for the record.

  • @Garapetsa
    @Garapetsa 2 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    I grew up with this language. Can't speak it but I understand it.
    Weird .
    He's telling a story about a watch.

    • @theodorospadelidis6537
      @theodorospadelidis6537 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      i have pontic greek discord server if interested to join send me your discord account with tag

    • @geogeo639
      @geogeo639 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      So do I...

    • @theodorospadelidis6537
      @theodorospadelidis6537 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@geogeo639 i have pontic greek discord server if interested to join send me your discord account with tag

  • @kuzeylicicero2850
    @kuzeylicicero2850 2 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    Merhaba to olous. Eimai apo tin Trapezounta. Atho emice şincenume Romeika pola kala. Pola yela😂 Ego egrume olous. Mpravo’sena emice mpravo👏🏼😄
    %100 the same Romeika which we speak too👏🏼 And he uses some Turkish words too like duvar(wall), Cep(pocket) and some others. Btw glad to learn those Turkish words are in the original structure of Romeika language. That’s nice :)

    • @AlexandrosT1
      @AlexandrosT1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      In modern Greek we use these words too

    • @kuzeylicicero2850
      @kuzeylicicero2850 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@AlexandrosT1 wowww really? I didn’t know this. Glad to hear. But actually it’s ordinary. We lived 500 years together.

    • @geertclaeys6209
      @geertclaeys6209 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Merhaba, kalimera, efkharisto poli, teşekkür ederim 🙂
      The used Turkish words are not original in the Greek language, just imported loanwords, result of mutual living together so many centuries. Happens with all languages which are in mutual contact.

    • @ozanbayrak562
      @ozanbayrak562 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@kuzeylicicero2850 he says also “karı/garı” (wife). Did you realize it?

    • @kuzeylicicero2850
      @kuzeylicicero2850 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@geertclaeys6209 Merhaba :) Geiá sou :) Yeah, l see what u meant. Efharisto’se ;) Naise panda kala adelfom😄✋🏻

  • @adamstefa8035
    @adamstefa8035 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Long live pontus, love from Massachusetts/Thessaloniki ❤

    • @Deniz-l5d
      @Deniz-l5d 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Pontus halasa

  • @АнестисПападопулос
    @АнестисПападопулос 2 ปีที่แล้ว +30

    the only preserved language close to ancient Greek is the Pontic language.

    • @Garapetsa
      @Garapetsa 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Yes. It's ancient Greek.
      Same with the sera dance.
      Ancient military dance.

    • @Garapetsa
      @Garapetsa 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @TK the words are old Greek.
      We aren't talking accent.
      The words/phrases...old ancient Greek.
      If your read old ancient Greek out loud, it comes out ponti Greek.
      Understand.

    • @Todestrieb21
      @Todestrieb21 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      @@Garapetsa It's not the only one. There's also the Cypriotic Greek spoken in Cyprus and the Tsakonian Greek spoken in the Peloponnese, the latter being a descendent of the ancient greek dorian dialect.

    • @Antpaok
      @Antpaok 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      No there's Tsakonian dialect as well in Lakonia as well as the Cypriot dialect retains many ancient words and sounds

  • @diesvonthun221
    @diesvonthun221 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Kalon kalon!!!!!!

  • @_PONTIOS_28
    @_PONTIOS_28 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    temeteron i kalatsin !!!

  • @zhaw4821
    @zhaw4821 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    I'm Greek. I can't speak the Pontian dialect. I understand 99% of it

    • @GeoBBB123
      @GeoBBB123 ปีที่แล้ว

      What part of the Greek world are you from zhaw4821?

    • @zhaw4821
      @zhaw4821 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@GeoBBB123
      I was born in Thessaloniki. My mother was born in Magnesia, my father in Armutlu, Yalova, Bursa. Now I live in California 😊

    • @sixstring4718
      @sixstring4718 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@zhaw4821 in Bursa half the population is Albanian origin

    • @zhaw4821
      @zhaw4821 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@sixstring4718
      Half of the Albanian population has Greek DNA

    • @zhaw4821
      @zhaw4821 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@sixstring4718
      I had a DNA test. 84% Greek, 12% Iberian, 4% Ashkenazi. What is your ethnicity? 🙂

  • @xander1201
    @xander1201 3 ปีที่แล้ว +28

    If I saw this man walking down the street in Turkey I'd assume that he's from the black sea region. Everything about him, his body language, manner, a way of talking, posture, phenotype, resembles me them lol.

    • @kafkasios9326
      @kafkasios9326 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      What about his face ?

    • @xander1201
      @xander1201 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@kafkasios9326 bro you people are legit the same. you are all pontic people, one is hellenized christian and the other is turkified muslim (even though they were used to speak rumca like 2 generations ago)

    • @theodorospadelidis6537
      @theodorospadelidis6537 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @wizball i have pontic greek discord server if interested to join send me your discord account with tag

    • @theodorospadelidis6537
      @theodorospadelidis6537 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@xander1201 i have pontic greek discord server if interested to join send me your discord account with tag

    • @didi-vh1gw
      @didi-vh1gw ปีที่แล้ว +1

      He looks kurds to me

  • @TheArkhamAsylum
    @TheArkhamAsylum ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Pontiaka is a Greek dialect like Kipriaka (Cypriot - Cyprus), Kritika (Cretan - Crete), etc... I am Greek and I can understand him talking because this is a Greek dialect of Pontus. That is because Greeks of Pontus, even the persecution, killing and genocide they suffered from Turks (mostly from Kemal's army and Turkish guerrilla army of Topal Osman), still survived and the region of Black Sea has many Turks with Greek (Pontus) origin even today. Back in 1910-1920 Kemal was ordered to those Greeks to change their religion (Christian Orthodox) and their language (Greek Pontian like the video) so they could stay in their homeland. Some of their ancestors preferred to change their religion (became Muslims) and they spoke their dialect secretly only in their houses so they could stay to their homeland Pontus. Other Greeks who they didn't want this either they were expelled or killed by the Turks.

    • @الواثقبالله-م7ب
      @الواثقبالله-م7ب ปีที่แล้ว

      اليونانيين البنطيين المسلمين في تركيا تحول أسلافهم للإسلام عبر قرون لم تسمح الدولة التركية لليونانيين الأرثوذوكس التحول للإسلام قبل معاهدة لوزان يوجد في تركيا اليوم مئات الآلاف يتحدثون اليونانية سرا و ملايين الأتراك من أصول يونانية نسبة كبيرة منهم تعرضوا لمذابح على يد اليونانيين الأرثوذوكس و تهجروا إلى تركيا

    • @TheArkhamAsylum
      @TheArkhamAsylum ปีที่แล้ว

      @@الواثقبالله-م7ب Write in English.

  • @oshiotomakan6900
    @oshiotomakan6900 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    ΠΟΝΤΟΣ 🇬🇷🦅❤️

  • @georgekech4903
    @georgekech4903 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    He relatively has a good handle of Pontic Greek (more than average of how Pontic Greeks that came to Greece in 1920's-1930's speak it) but he's definitely not fluent. For instance he keeps switching between "η ώραν"(I oran ) and "το ρολόιν" (to roloin). The second term is in standard modern Greek and not Pontic Greek. He just added the archaic -n suffix to sound Pontic. Because "η ώραν" is both "the time" and "the watch" in Pontic Greek and because in standard Greek it means only "the time" he thinks "roloin" is the proper word in Pontic Greek too. Also he used the word "παινευκουνταν" instead of "κουρφευκουνταν" for "they praise themselves/brag". Again because he confuses modern Standard Greek terms with Pontic terms since "they praise themselves/brag" in modern Greek is "παινευονται". The only ones who speak proper Pontic Greek in Greece are the Pontians that came to Greece in the 1990's from Soviet Union from regions that were almost exclusively populated by Pontians.

  • @alper4404
    @alper4404 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Türkiyeli bir Türk olarak ben de Kapadokyalı Karamanlides topluluğunu %100 anlıyorum. Bugün hâlâ Orta Anadolu ağzıyla Türkçe konuşuyorlar. Diller yaşamalı.

  • @haydekalkgidelim7900
    @haydekalkgidelim7900 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I wish I could hear tripoli accent of turkish today :)

  • @ΦαιηΣαμουργκανιδου
    @ΦαιηΣαμουργκανιδου 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Сахапао понтигрэция Понтос право право

  • @angtuanetblwse8896
    @angtuanetblwse8896 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Could somebody explain me please what's the point of this joke?

  • @beardlong8235
    @beardlong8235 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Ειναι απλα Ελληνικα για να ειμαστε ειλικρινεις. Ποσο κριμα που χαθηκε ο Ελληνισμος 3000 χρονων του Ποντου, της μ. Ασιας της Πολης και της μισης Κυπρου . Ποσο κριμα.

  • @kosmashionidis
    @kosmashionidis ปีที่แล้ว +2

    O pontus zei!!!❤

  • @daccuiz
    @daccuiz 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    εκλαψα χαχα

  • @broadminded7774
    @broadminded7774 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The old Mustaki speaks here and there some Albanian words!

    • @athanasiosv3758
      @athanasiosv3758 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Είσαι σίγουρος ότι είναι Αλβανικες λέξεις 😉😉

    • @broadminded7774
      @broadminded7774 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@athanasiosv3758 At the very base (its genesis) every word is Albanian, don't you ever forget that! In his case words like ; Ishte, Ora or Eci.
      But obviously most of the words he uses are Turkish!

    • @athanasiosv3758
      @athanasiosv3758 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      @@broadminded7774 Και σε ποιο βιβλίο τα διάβασες ότι η βάση (base)είναι Αλβανικες. 😲😲😲😲

    • @lazaroshatziioannides5298
      @lazaroshatziioannides5298 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      @@broadminded7774 😂😂

    • @geogeo639
      @geogeo639 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      @@broadminded7774 Nonsense

  • @occihum9115
    @occihum9115 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I'm a Greek from a monolingual background, meaning neither my parents nor grandparents spoke any dialect despite living in provincial town and this sounded AWFUL! Ç, Ş & DZ sounds that don't exist in standard Greek and different rhythm (pitch sounded).

    • @katastrafika5253
      @katastrafika5253 2 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      I’m Greek and half of my Mothers side speak this language and so many other families I know
      Especially in the Florina area of Greece and Katerini
      So if it sounds awful to you
      Don’t listen to in

    • @olgaath1511
      @olgaath1511 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Your soul sounds awful to me...

    • @sleekismboyz605
      @sleekismboyz605 ปีที่แล้ว

      Bro had the turkish or albanian keyboard saved on his device, fake ass greek lmao

    • @mcyungherc689
      @mcyungherc689 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Said no greek ever

    • @georgekech4903
      @georgekech4903 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yet you're using letters that exist in the Turkish keyboard and not the Greek or English. Yep, you're Greek. Also the sounds "Ch" and "Sh" exist in Cretan and Cypriot Greek as well. If you don't like how the dialect that is the closest to Ancient Greek (according to many linguists) sounds, just keep it to yourself. No one cares about your opinion.