GOD-TIER Character Acting | Delicious in Dungeon Episode 23 Breakdown
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- The animated short that Haruki and Ichigo Kanno collaborated on: • いきもののきろく
Sakuga Blog article about Kyoto Animation that mentions Haruki and Ichigo Kanno: blog.sakugabooru.com/2021/07/...
Sakuga Blog article about Dungeon Meshi that also mentions Haruki: blog.sakugabooru.com/2024/02/...
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____Video Contents____
00:00 - Intro
00:49 - Background
01:19 - Dwarves
03:38 - Griffin Soup
05:20 - Hippogriff Soup
08:47 - Changelings
11:44 - Conclusion
12:17 - Outro - บันเทิง
Referring to baby senshi as "Steven Universe phase" is so fucking funny to me
Yung senshi
What’s funny to me is the entire fandom collectively decided to do that. No one started it we all just had the same idea
He does look like Steven lol
@@tuiteyfruity5010I also like the David Tennant chillchuck joke
@@tuiteyfruity5010 true, i never watchef SU but Steven's design is so iconic that it was also my first thought
I can't believe Laios hates his dad so much that he didn't grow any additional facial hair when he was transformed into a dwarf
A bit of spoiler
but kinda reminds me of big bang theory sheldon has a black memory of his father but in reality in young sheldon we found out that wasn't the case.
Well he is 26 senshi was 36, so despite Senshi saying he looks 60 Laios is young by dwarf standards.
@@beatrixthegreat1138 I think it was meant to show that it's proportional. Laios is 26, which is 10 years over the age of tallman maturity.
Dwarf maturity is around 40 years, and Laios looks 60 to Senshi which is coherent with Laios being a little older than that maturity age.
If it wasn't proportional, Marcille would have been elderly as a halfling since she's 50, the average lifespan for a halflings.
@@hyobro8392 Yeah, otherwise some wouldn't even SURVIVE the transformation.
The fact that he named Anne after their previous horse 😭😭😭
I think that its sad too, but I think we should officially forbid Senshi naming any living creature an Anne, especially children if he gonna have any
If Senshi had a nickel for every horse named Anne he's eaten...
He would have two nickels . Which isn't a lot but it's weird that it happened twice, right?
Damn it's true that you imagine the voice immediately when you read it
And then bitch betrayed him 😭😭
chilchuck patting halffoot marcille and dwarf laios on the head was so adorable and one of the most dad things he's done
I really love the interactions between tallman!chilchuck and halffoot!marcille in particular because she treats him like a kid so much of the time but having their sizes switched around really makes it clear that developmentally, he’s old enough to be her dad, which definitely colors their whole dynamic!
@@haliku9705 yes!!! i agree
I wish the scene where Laios shook the bell for dog-izutsumi had included the moment where it rang in tandem for Shuro on the surface. That was so funny in the manga.
I'm hoping there will at least be a callback to it when Laios and Shuro cross paths again.
I get the sense, with the way Trigger has been adapting parts of the humor, we'll get a supercut later of all the times Laios shook the bell, instead of how the manga showed the immediate reaction
@@Luc_ienn I really hope they do that
i feel like this moment works better in the manga medium because it can be in a small frame off to the side. in the anime it would either have to be a cut or imposed on the scene at the same time, which would feel jarring.
@@VoidStaresback I mean they kind of have to at some point, or everyone will have forgotten about it when it becomes plot-relevant
Laios shaves regularly in the dungeon, we've seen him do this like twice I swear. He hated his father and falin comparing them one time motivated him to cut his hair and stay cleanly shaven.
Good catch! That makes sense then, that when turned into a dwarf, he doesn’t magically grow facial hair since he actively shaves. And likely is continuing to do so.
Chilchuck got stubble because he doesn’t shave so he’s starting to grow that beard ;)
Bro was so horrified by the single comment he decided to stay tidy FOREVER
I thought it was because as a dwarf, his beard is still coming in due to age. (Senshi doesn't even have a beard at 37.)
Senshi didn’t have a beard at 37, but uh, small spoilers for next episode…
Laios has the body of a 60~ Year old Dwarf. The Changeling Mushrooms have proportionate aging or else Marcille would be an old lady as a Half-Foot.
@@cookiethehungrynah, it definitely made them their relative ages in their new bodies-Marcille is 50, and if she’d been a 50 year old half-foot, she’d look more elderly than she did given that the average half-foot lifespan is 60. Chilchuck at 29 is middle-aged, and he looked like a middle-aged tall man, not like a 29 year old.
It would be funny if the races also change in the opening for the next episode
This would be so on theme with the manga, I could only hope
yeah... that takes too much effort, money, and time for only one episode
They could easily just change that one moment where the crew opens the pot to reveal mini-selves being cooked
To represent like, on the outside they look different but inside they're all the same
Oh my fucking god I hope so! That would be legendary!
@@santiareco5285on top of the fact that they had to add itsuzumi to the intro, it's a shame
Apparently they changed the character profiles on the official site to their race-swapped versions, which is a cute touch imo! It makes me happy to know that they're putting care into the little details ^^
Ooh! Thanks for the tip! I'm going to give it a look now.
OK, I reeeaaalllyy want to see the opening animation changed accordingly this week then!
Which site? I wanna see
one detail i really liked is that when senshi turns around after crying you can see that he has reddened/flushed eyebags
Senshi's red eyes from crying is very easy to notice compared to Marcille, you must pay close attention to see her reddened eyes before and after she successfully resurrected Falin, and her eyes was still red when they took a bath together
Senshi dropping that spoon in shock is such a strong moment. I love it.
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One thing I really found fun in the second-half of the episode was the extreme differences in the characters voices switch races, I don't think it was that noticeable for all of them but they specifically senshi and chillChuck was very different and I thought it was very fun. And even more so I think SungWon Cho showing such an extreme range of senshi in this episode was also very cool
SungWon Cho got to express so much of his range in just one episode and I think that's the best reason to have these two chapters sandwiched together in the same session
@@Luc_ienn Ok this might sound dumb but, is the SungWon Cho your talking about the ProZD one or is it just a similar name. If it is him, then damn, bro is John Voice Actor.
@@seanayy6973 Yep! Same guy!
@@lovelysanDamn. I knew he was a VA, but just, wow. Ty for letting me know!
I think my favorite tallman Chilchuck things is how he's constantly tugging at his ears due to his loss of hearing and how he's gaunt, referencing how he keeps an eye on weight since he's bigger than most half foots.
Apparently Laios is cleanshaven by choice. As long as dwarven hair doesn't grow faster than tallman hair, Laios should be able to keep up his regular shaving regimen. Though it would be interesting to see him wake up with the start of growth and having to keep on top of it.
I didn't even notice the hairs in the dumplings! This show is so good.
One of my favorite aspects of the changeling designs is how the author spend a lot of time to ensure every design to make sense with all of the elements of the original characters:
- Laios is a young adult, so he has a softer face than Senshi when he becomes a dwarf.
- Chilchuck is a middle aged man, so he of course is made to look like an older tall man.
- Marcille is smaller and younger looking than Chilchuck, since she's a young woman and Chilchuck seems to be taller than the average hal-foot.
- Senshi has two noticeable attributes normally, his beard which is big even for a darwf and his good looks, so it makes sense for this attributes to stand out so much more when he is in elf form.
Maybe dwarf laios doesnt have a beard because laios canonically shaves so that carries over? Senshi is probably the hairiest dwarves get so hes the hairiest an elf gets too... i guess?
thought it was cause of his age being younger since young senshi didnt really have the beard yet
@stevemehes9152 young senshi was about the equivalent of a 15 year old though, iirc
@@stevemehes9152 their race-swapped versions are proportionally equivalent to their normal ages, though. Like when Marcille turned into a half-foot she was still a young woman
something I appreciate about the griffin soup is the sad and somber" its ready" and the music is down key as well
Laios kneeling on his toes with his heels in the air is a great detail bc Europeans tend to have tight ankles from lifestyle differences between Eastern people's which makes it more difficult for them to keep their heels on the ground while squating
Izutsumi's dog face looked like an uncomfortable version of the guard-stand dog from Undertale
A big thing that was missing for me was the explanation of how changeling mushrooms work, using the deer that turns into a gazelle as an example. It grounds the world, and that attention to biological detail is what made me fall in love with this series.
Transformation is clearly magical thing but mushrooms using is for spreading their spores
That gets explained in the next episode
@@animeotaku307 you are so right, I just watched it
The episode was an emotional rollercoaster, specifically Senshi's past half. It might be the first time I've actually though that Laios was going a bit too far. But the final revelation of Senshi's past *soup* is so heartwarming. And remembering that he named the Kelpi Anne after the horse they had to eat when stranded in the dungeon's depths shows that deep inside Senshi is still a child, even if technically he's an adult. Back then the adults had to make sure Senshi survives and they fed him, and we saw how Senshi had the same feelings about Laios's group.
One thing I was glad about that you didn't mention is that they did not fail to make the bowl of raw mystery meat look absolutely VILE. That was such a striking panel for me in the manga.
You mentioned Elf Senshi is the only elf we see with facial hair, but I think he might also be the only elf with dark hair we see, including among Kui's headshot pages of just one race. As far as I can find, the only times we see elves with dark hair are when she's drawing an elven raceswap of someone with dark hair.
It makes me wonder if dark hair is like, some lost phenotype to elves that only shows up during changeling shenanigans.
I like the canary elf guy with the body tats. He is so cool i want to make him as a dnd character. The whole series has really made me like elfs more than i used to.
Lycion's great! he's so fun, i love him
Slight spoiler for a side story:
I love that he and Laios have an otaku fight about lycanthropy because they try to gatekeep and call each other posers. Very relatable fandom interaction.
Elves really got a renaissance going on thanks to this years anime.
Ah yes the Furry
I aint ready for this season to end
So am i
It was a really good journey, and I hope there will be a second season
@@YPinkie i hope that trigger will adapt the second season
@@kecoalaut they did it
i love how it's revealed in the manga's monster tidbits section that laios has been a troll the entire time
Good Lord, that madlad is starting in the dark abyss for the whole week? I call it dedication
Reading this chapter in the manga really made me feel sad and empathetic towards Senshi. Seeing how Senshi reacted with the second soup animated, however, made me cry w
Thank you so much for calling out Senshi for his Steven Universe Phase. It's all I could think about for that portion of the episode
The fact that they were pushing the runtime to fit content in is perhaps more evident by the fact that the episode is about five minutes longer than usual _even without_ the ED.
One of the darkest panels along with the silliest, well consider this trend the formula for season 2, you all will eat good!
Tall man Chilchuck did look especially tall and I can't quite realized it until you pointed it out. Also, the replay of his rolling around was a nice touch of hilarity.
I'm so glad this was a longer reaction, as I felt like you had a lot to talk about for each part of the episode.
I read somewhere that Chilchuck is quite tall for a half-foot so it makes sense that he's tall for a tall man as well.
I can’t believe there’s only one more ep left 😞
Sad days 😔, but with how popular the show is, hopefully we'll get a season 2!!
I remember in your breakdown of episode one you drew attention to how there's no movement on Senshi's face when he talks, not even his mustache. Now we know why. They wanted it to hit harder when we see his mouth speak just this one time. Let that sink in. They made a creative decision that would effect nearly every episode of the series, all for the sake of one moment that was just a few seconds.
You mention how hairless Laois is, but I'm pretty sure this was addressed in one of the manga extras as being intentional! I don't remember from which volume, but there was an extra where it showed Laios with longer hair and a beard, and Falin pointed out that it made him look like their father. It said that from then on, he decided he would shave and keep a shorter haircut. I think it's a neat aspect about his character, so I wanted to point it out.
This video was fun as always. I love to see the particular spotlight you give to the animators and the comments you have about how these scenes serve the adaption (for better or worse, depending).
Haha yeah I do remember that, I just thought he would have grown a beard overnight against his will!
(and thanks!)
I think you've mentioned it before somewhere, but I really wish the order of chapters was switched around so we could get hippogriff soup and the changlings in separate episodes. I was watching this episode with a friend who was anime only, and he remarked that while Senshi's story was great and he loved it, the second half with the changlings felt rushed and I can't disagree, I even showed him a lot of the panels that were cut from the first half of changlings and he really wished he got to see that.
I get that Trigger wants to end on chapter 52, but I still feel like they really could have swapped the order around, like what they did for dryads.
About the Specifics of each race I loved senshi complaining about how heavy was everything
This episode was so packed, and many pages were cut from manga. I kinda wish they made Shensi's past and changeling has their own episode. Probably with Namari or Shuro to fill the remaining duration, which their portion also been cut from the previous chapter too.
Yeah lol, the ending on this one was so abrupt I assumed Netflix messed up.
But Elf Senshi had me just DYING laughing, especially since my sibling is such a big Utena fan and Pride month has it fresh on their mind- I'm primed for Floating Rose and Pink Bubble Gender Void.
Now, assuming there's a hiatus between seasons, I would enjoy some content from you about those "I can't believe you didn't talk about X" topics if you're feeling up to it.
You've been really enhancing my enjoyment of a show I've already fallen in love with so I'd definitely watch more.
Prozd out here having the time of his life voicing 3 different versions of the same character
It's SO GOOD. Even the original Japanese had a different voice actor for young Senshi, but SungWon Cho knocked it out of the park with all three
I wait for this series every Monday!
It comes out on Thursdays
@@benjamindavis2475 I think they mean Swamp Jawn talking about the most recent Dunmeshi episode.
@@MirellaSnapeBingo 🎉
すばらしい解説に感謝します。
本当にありがとうございます!
Laios doesn't have a beard because he's so young. He's in his early 20s, so he's in his adolescence in dwarven aging
Well yeah, but it seems like everyone is the equivalent age that they would be in relation to their new race's lifespan, not their actual original age. Otherwise, Marcille would most likely have just died of old age on the spot.
@@swampjawn also its confirmed that their new bodies reflect their equivalent ages. I dont remember if it was on the actual manga or a monsters tidbit extra or something but i distinctly remember a escene where Laios asks senshi what age he thinks he was in the dwarf body and Senshi goes like "mm, you looked around 60" and Laios says how that means their changed bodies adapted to the equivalent age of whather race they were turned into
It never ceases to amaze me how much love and appreciation you show for each individual animator !!!
You really help explain why it's vital that we have so many different animators with their own strengths brought to the table of this show. Like a team of professional cooks specializing in certain dishes creating a full course meal, and I promise this is [not] the last time I'll explain why this show is great by comparing it to cooking.
this series-- dungeon meshi and your breakdowns of the eps-- have been bringing me so much joy and its interesting to finally have the spotlight put on senshi and that evocative character acting. can't wait for the next ep! and im starting to think about the gap between seasons and making actual plans to read the manga while i wait...
I’m glad I’m not the only person who thought young Senshi looked exactly like Steven universe haha
the fact you put so much effort to crediting the animators individually makes me smile ^^
I honestly think there was one major misstep in the cutting for this episode: the removal of any mention that Senshi's party members had been stealing food from the orcs at first.
As an anime-only viewer, I was very confused about exactly where they were finding those sacks of unspecified "food". Were they eating monsters, and if so, why wasn't it being discussed? Surely that would have been a formative experience for Senshi? And if they weren't eating monsters, where were they finding food? Were they cannibalizing each other one by one the whole time?
I had to have a manga-reading friend explain it to me, and that seems like a bad call on the part of the script/storyboard folks. Even a few seconds would have been enough to establish the source of their food (and why the orcs were angry enough to capture Senshi when he emerged, but then changed their mind when they realized he was a harmless kid).
Thank you for talking about the animator’s background, that was very interesting!
your episode breakdowns about the animation are so fascinating
This Episode Broke me!!!! I was laughing so HARD!!! by far Fav Anime...
Loving how we finally get Senshi’s backstory animated.
So glad that these breakdowns have gotten more traction because they're so good
Bro, when the outro didn't come out, I felt empty. Why Netflix!?
10:05 Laios not having a beard reminded me of the scene with the doppelgängers, where Marcille's view of Laios was all hunky and bulky, because she heard that Laios looked a lot like his sister and she was shocked when he looked manlier than she expected
Great work as usual! You caught so much I didn’t in this episode! Thanks for pointing out all the cool stuff so now I can appreciate these things!
But yeah as someone else pointed out, Laios is actively shaving so he wouldn’t have a beard!
Chilchuck doesn’t need to shave so he got stubble as a tall man.
Great video!
I love how when Marcille was asked to help use her magic to open the door, her response was "I'll need time, tools and money"
The last 2 are things she rarely ever talked about. I wonder if theres some truth to all stereotypes for the humanoids in the series?
I just wanted to mention that you’re the entire reason I’ve bought the manga for dungeon meshi, and WOW It’s been so fun to read and compare!
Good luck in escaping the void, Swamp Jawn.
sungwon cho did an incredible job in this episode.
Finally reaching two parts that I've been excited for my friend to get to see!!! There are so many good parts, but senshi's backstory just makes so many previous behaviors click into place. For a second there I thought the anime had cut out the moment when they mentioned Anne's name, and was relieved that they hadn't.
I'm gonna have to wait ages to see all the fun stuff with my boy Mithrun, but I'm glad we got to get as far as we are getting with season one!
I'm going to start reading as soon as we finish this season, can't wait to experience it all again(plus the other half) :B
I'm not ready I don't want to wait for the next season it's been my favorite anime original from last year and this one
Such a great anime and im so happy that season 2 was announced so quickly too
Always a welcome surprise to see a Strong Bad Reference
I'm gonna miss all of this so much
This series is so good. I started to get emotional again when you showed senshi falling into tears.
I'm gonna miss these videos as much as the weekly episodes
The fact that you made a SBEmail reference has got me officially hooked.
this anime is sooo amazing, the comedy is perfect and never takes away from the atmosphere.
The fact the hippogriff scene made me cry says so much about how good this scene really is considering the last time I was moved to cry in anime was during clannad
me and my mom absolutely love watching Delicious in Dungeon every week and for the last episode this week we will celebrate by cooking the first meal in the first episode
tbh I thought this episode has been the only inferior one to the manga that didn't really use the animation medium to elevate the experience and to make up for the cut content, but your review made me realize that it still makes the important scenes shine, so at least it has that.
I still think it could've been solved with just an extra episode, but I guess it has to follow the 12 episode formula per cour thing
I was showing a friend of mine Bigtop Burger a couple of weeks ago, and they have also been watching Dungeon Meshi with me. I pointed out that Doctor is also voiced by Sungwon Cho and I was like "I'm calling it right now, elf!Senshi is going to have Doctor's character voice" (leading to my anime only friend to be very confused) and I am so happy I was right.
Yay! I've been waiting for this one so much!
8:07 this panel in the mange broke me. I was not just sad but disappointed because they have great designs. I'm sad that they could never be explored more. That's why I'm so happy to see them appearing in Ryoko Kui's Daydream Hour.
while i understand that it was a nessesary scheduling decision, man, i really wish we had gotten a whole chapter dedicated to gryphon soup. while the most important part [Senshi's reaction to the soup] was done beatifuly, everything else felt SO rushed. i really think this chapter would have heavealy benefited from some time to let senshi's backstory and everyones reactions and dialogues to sink in. Furthermore, im really sad that about the way a certain panel got adapted: the party's reaction. Especially bc of Izutsumi. In the manga they show you everyone's face and you can see izutsumi is genuinely horrified and feels so bad for senshi, and thats important bc she is just warming up to the idea of traveling with the party and this is the first time she expresses concern about them. While in the anime they just show everyone from the back and you cant see their faces. Also i do think i might be a lot more critical than usual bc its my favorite chapter in the series so i had very high expectations.
Good point!
@@swampjawn omg swamp reply :]
Senshi is so fine
I had to rewatch that starving senshi ep twice.
I flipping lost it laughing when shenshi's old crew were all "we must protect the youngen" and "he (Senshi) is only 36 ears old" Im 38yr old miner raised around people 20-40yrs my senior and I still treat my younger (36 & 32) brothers like kids.
I noticed that not only is dwarf laios hairless, he is also kinda short, senshi is way (30 cm if i remember correctly)taller than chilchuck and chilchuck is already super tall for his race but laios is barely taller than half foot marcille and with his red nose he comes across as more cute than dwarfish, so much so that two of my friend and even some reaction youtubers i watched mistaked him for an half foot at first, i wonder if it was on purpose as of character design
Izutsumi just becoming a dog was funnier than I imagined.
I'm just happy that he's still rocking the frogskin boots.
but that animation of chilchuck rolling like he did really helped me *feel* how much that hurt
I was so unsettled by there not being an ed :O
Hearing Kitchen Nightmare sfx after what Liaos said at 3:38 had me amused at how fitting it was. 😅
11:46 !!! That tiny detail was so cute honestly! Like yuck gross hair in food but I live for tiny details like that in shows and comics. I imagine her only making seven dumplings in part bc she was leaving hair in them and also probably bc she maybe didn’t want to help given how her character is
You might expect the sparkly flowery Senshi gag would get played out but it *absolutely* did not
Good call pointing out the lack of outro, perhaps on the physical release (hopefully) we get a combined two-episode finale. I can't believe season one is almost over, looking forward to the next video 🥺
When Senshi warned the group of desire making the dungeon hostile, him tossing the real gold away started to make a lot more sense, same goes for his philosophy of giving the dungeon something back.
Ah a lovely detail!
I saw someone say that the reason Senshi explains the process of what he’s cooking is so that the others know what’s in it and so that they won’t have any doubts and that fucking broke me.
Nice
I find it hilarious that my brother and I aren't the only ones that thought young Senshi looked like Steven Universe, it's like how the Demon Slayer fandom all collectively decided to start calling Muzan Michael Jackson lol
There's one thing I wish of studio Trigger but I probably won't get. But if, that would make them goated - even more than they already are.
For the last episode of the season I want them to redo the opening but with everyone in the party in their race-swapped forms.
Damn I commented before watching the full video and wanted to cite the updated volume one cover panel, but you actually mentioned it. 🙃
Soup based revelations should be a thing in more stories.
Ah yes, the one with Senshi getting a good ending in his Pelican Soup riddle👌
i don't know if anyone has mentioned this, but i would guess that laois is hairless as a dwarf because a) his age, and/or b) he shaves regularly (i recall a short strip between laois and falin, where laois didn't cut his hair or shave for a while because it was a pain, but when falin mentioned that he looked like their dad, he cut his hair?)
9:00 AWWOOOGA
THEY KILLED KENSUKE!!,!!?!?!?! IN EP 24 THEY KILLED HIM MY PRECIOUS BOI KENSUKE
JJK is truely peak animations and story telling just like Dungeon Meshi. I mean I never had such an array of emotions before as when I found out that Kengaku is the type of 4 dimensionally written character to have took backshots so his/her plan succeeded.
Then again, I also love the how Dungeon Meshi not only deals with Cosmic Horror but also psychology in a K'Onistic slice of life fashion mixed with an ever drawing dread that things will go south some time soon if they meet... I don't know a Cosmic horroresaue Berserk entity (I mean with all that meat that guys is eating the elf will soon end up as Guts lol... hope not).
All in all they are both amazing!
Since we mentioned Kenjaku, Imma have to put an obligatory: 'He had to take that white splash, so Yuji could hit that black flash!' meme