I have the same truck and I agree, I dig the wheels. I like your setup. Do you think I be able to tow my 5k-LBS travel trailer with that setup and also change out the tires from a factory General Grabber 175/70/18 to 295/70/18 Mickey Thompson Baja Boss AT. Would this work or is it a bad idea?
I ordered the same leveling kit before seeing this video. I opened the instructions and went "uh that seems like a lot to get the strut free". Glad you figured the same thing and had no issue doing it your way.
Thanks for putting this video together. The talking points were most excellent. I ordered a similar set up (RC 2" lift kit), gonna borrow your idea and jack the whole front end up and drop the sway bar out of the way.
Awesome 👌 same thing I looking for !!!! Thanks for being the guinea pig for this project, not a fan of the squat look , you definitely made that truck look stand out better !!!!
I got a 2018 platinum reserve and wanna do the same thing to mine to get rid of that slight nose dive and put some 33's on it to give it that masculine look!
Do they sell a coil over kit for leveling these. I hate spacers, they just take away from articulation. It’s bad enough you stuff block in the back, which also takes away from tucking the back wheel when hitting obstacles.
It does look good, I would like to do both, but for my use case(towing a 14,000 lb. 5th wheel) it would be weakening the axes/studs and maybe both?? Now the 1.5” leveling kit I could get behind. Looks better for sure
I bought the same wheel spacers and for some reason I have some major rubbing issues when I turn left. I have the exact same truck as you as well. Any idea what could cause this issue?
TERRIFIC video. I really like your attention to detail - you did not want a 2" rake, you wanted a 0.5" rake, and you nailed it. Plus, the wheel spacing final product was perfect. Question: How did this affect your fuel economy? Very impressed by your video and attention to detail.
Awesome vid, been trying for awhile to figure out a wheel/tire/level kit combination and have been getting conflicting info from every shop, believe I'll do the same as you with a more aggressive tire, thanks for the vid, did the leveling give you any more clearance in the end
Yeah, the leveling kit truly lifted the front 1.5” higher and is noticeable when driving off-road, especially on this one urban development project I’m on. Before the kit, a few of the limestone rocks sticking out of the ground would rub the front lower skid plate. Now, those rocks don’t even touch the bottom of my truck. Turns out I did have a little tire rub, but weirdly it was only when I turned full-lock in reverse. The leveling kit made that go away almost. I had to lightly trim the front mud flaps on the inside. No more rubbing.
Love the stance...can you get the same result without spacers if you get new wheels with more of an offset...I think the stock Nissan wheels are +23mm. So maybe a 0mm offset would still let the tires to stick out?
Yeah, of course. You just need to pay attention to the width of the wheel, offset, and tire size. Factory Pro-4X wheels are 18x8 +23 running a 275/70r18 tire. 1.5” spacers would be equivalent to a -15 offset in this setup. I think 0 offset is actually perfect for these trucks since you’ll likely be running a wider wheel with a wider tire. So it will more than make up for that 15mm deficit. A lot of people think that offset and wheel width are unrelated, and that’s just not true. “Offset” is the offset distance from the center. So, an 18x9 +0 wheel will stick out .5” (12.7mm) further than an 18x8 +0.
@@Inner_Sanctum yup…I was thinking about doing the same leveling kit with 20x9 +0 wheels with 275/60R/20 tire…would definitely like to avoid any trimming.
Did you have any noticeable ride difference good or bad with the 1.5" kit? Thinking about upgrading but not wanting to sacrifice ride quality... Loved the video, your truck looks great!
Interesting that they rub. Hmm. I’m bummed you got that result. I mentioned down on one of the comments that I did actually have a little rub when in reverse at full-lock. Didn’t know till after the video unfortunately. It was only slightly, and mine are 1.5”. So, if you’re running 1” and rubbing bad, I am surprised. I just lightly trimmed the inner top side of the splash guard with my oscillator tool, and my slight rub vanished when reversing. Plus, I cut it in a way that was not noticeable unless you had a new one next to you to compare.
If you buy the correct fitting hub centric wheel spacers, they are the easiest thing in the world to install. You remove your wheel, remove any surface rust from the brake rotor hat (if neccessary), install the wheel spacer w/ the supplied open lug nuts, torque everything down to spec, then reinstall your wheel and torque it to spec. Even though it's not really neccessary, I like to remove my wheels after the first 500 miles and check/retorque the spacer lugs to just make sure they are good to go from there on out. I have personally never had one that was loose during the reinspection.
Looking at adding wheel spacers as well to my 2020 Pro4x. I'm torn between Titan and Bora. Like you said Bora is double the price of Titan. Have you had any issues with Titan brand wheel spacers? I know Bora has a warranty on their wheel spacers, does Titan?
Have had no issues with mine. I’ve put about 10,000 miles on the truck since install. Not sure about warranty. I mean if a solid chunk of metal from Bora or Titan fails, you’ve probably got bigger problems at that point.
I picked up a set of Titan 1.5” wheel spacers and installed them on my 21 pro4x but the lug stud isn’t long enough to reach the end of the nut. If I was to guess there’s about 5/8 threads in the nut. Does this sound right or dangerous ?? Any help is appreciated! Thanks for the content.
I have a 2017 Titan SV with a 3" Roughcountry lift. I put 33-12.5-18 tires on factory rims. I tried 1" spacers but the drivers side tire rubs pretty bad. Any thoughts. I don't want to cut anything
If you already have a 1” block for the rear, then yeah, I think a 2” front kit would work well. I am very pleased with how everything turned out. No issues off-road or on-road so far.
I don’t think you’ll have an issue with a 1” set of spacers. The studs wouldn’t stick out very far, and the small amount that they would stick out would easily fit into the backside “reliefs” of the wheel.
@@Inner_Sanctum awesome thanks, man. You know your shit. I just got a set on Amazon for 98 bucks. I hope 1' look good enough. I also have a 2019 Pro-4x. But black. So I'll be watching your mods. And throw some amp research steps on that rig! 🤘🏼
After wheel spacers? Yes. The truck has a 3” wider track width with the 1.5” spacers. So, it does feel more planted to the road. After the leveling kit? No. Since the spacer sits on top of the factory strut/coil body it does not add or decrease spring rate, rebound, or compression characteristics. The truck drives the same in that regard.
My honest (revised) opinion: I like my Titan. It does exactly what I need it to do and I haven’t had an issue with it thus far. I personally like the look of the truck and enjoy that this PRO-4X is more than capable for my needs/wants, is rather bare bones, and didn’t break the bank. I’m not a huge fan of newer trucks for a litany of reasons, including my Titan, but that’s just the way it goes. I saw a red Ram Rebel just the other day, and I think they look really badass. Definitely a tough stance on them for sure. I think when it comes to new trucks, they are all going to be so similar across the board performance/capability/reliability wise. Just buy the one that stands out to you the most.
I have 17 pro 4x. Before i had a 07 titan purchased with 109k miles in 2013 just sold it 3 weeks ago with 243k miles same engine and transmission the only problems the lifters were a little loud on cold starts. It worked well towing a 7600lb camper in and out the deer woods. I also towed my sxs around with it alot. Never had to replace the starter or alternator. It was a damn good solidc truck that's why I purchased the new one i have
Glad to see you and the D21. I guess the Titan is a replacement for the Frontier and the Soo-bee? Frontier.......... ahhhhhh ok...... nothing special........ but the wagon....... if you got rid of that........ I am un-subbing. 😬 😄😄😄
Video Chapters:
0:00 Before Wheel Spacers & Leveling Kit
1:50 Actual Products Purchased
4:14 After Wheel Spacers
5:30 Truck's Height (Before Leveling Kit)
5:57 Leveling Kit Talking Points
7:56 After Leveling Kit Installed
9:16 Truck's Height (After Leveling Kit)
I have the same truck and I agree, I dig the wheels. I like your setup. Do you think I be able to tow my 5k-LBS travel trailer with that setup and also change out the tires from a factory General Grabber 175/70/18 to 295/70/18 Mickey Thompson Baja Boss AT. Would this work or is it a bad idea?
Almost Looks like a XD now .. 👍
Nissan did their thing on this truck definitely underrated compared to the big 3 especially for the price they're very affordable.
I've been looking for this exact setup on this exact truck, video couldn't have been better, thanks man!
Looks good! I've been wanting to do the same to mine. Glad I was able to see it first. Helps me make my decision
Your truck looks great! Thank you for the very detailed video. This is EXACTLY what I am looking to do to my ‘21 PRO-4X.
I ordered the same leveling kit before seeing this video. I opened the instructions and went "uh that seems like a lot to get the strut free". Glad you figured the same thing and had no issue doing it your way.
Thanks for putting this video together. The talking points were most excellent. I ordered a similar set up (RC 2" lift kit), gonna borrow your idea and jack the whole front end up and drop the sway bar out of the way.
Awesome 👌 same thing I looking for !!!! Thanks for being the guinea pig for this project, not a fan of the squat look , you definitely made that truck look stand out better !!!!
The truck looks way better with the spacers and leveling!
Great video dude! It's a shame the size of your audience doesn't match the quality of your content yet.
Thanks, that means a lot!
Looks good, ordered the same leveling kit for mine
I got a 2018 platinum reserve and wanna do the same thing to mine to get rid of that slight nose dive and put some 33's on it to give it that masculine look!
Thx man. My truck looks great.
I would love to know how it doesn’t rub. 1.5 spacer rubs on a 2022 pro 4 with lift. Had to remove mud flaps
Cool man. I have the same truck and it's been solid 👌 💯
Updates how is the spacer leveling kit ? Thanks!
How is your clearance between your UCA and strut bucket. I have a 2014 that I'm going to do and have heard 2in spacers are too much.
Do they sell a coil over kit for leveling these. I hate spacers, they just take away from articulation. It’s bad enough you stuff block in the back, which also takes away from tucking the back wheel when hitting obstacles.
What size tires are you running? i was thinking maybe a bit wider tires and the 1 inch spacers. Think a 296/65/20 would fit with the 1.5 leveling kit?
whats the largest wheels you can fit if doing this same setup on a 2021 pro 4x crew cab? non xd
Definitely leveling mine now after seeing the video, been wanting to for awhile now.
It does look good, I would like to do both, but for my use case(towing a 14,000 lb. 5th wheel) it would be weakening the axes/studs and maybe both?? Now the 1.5” leveling kit I could get behind. Looks better for sure
@@gammagonad1657 I agree 100%. If you’re towing that kind of weight, it’s just not worth the risk.
I'm in Central Tx too. Where can I find these parts?
I bought the same wheel spacers and for some reason I have some major rubbing issues when I turn left. I have the exact same truck as you as well. Any idea what could cause this issue?
Fantastic video btw.
TERRIFIC video. I really like your attention to detail - you did not want a 2" rake, you wanted a 0.5" rake, and you nailed it. Plus, the wheel spacing final product was perfect.
Question: How did this affect your fuel economy?
Very impressed by your video and attention to detail.
Honestly, I haven’t noticed anything fuel economy wise. I still get ~400 miles per tank.
Awesome vid, been trying for awhile to figure out a wheel/tire/level kit combination and have been getting conflicting info from every shop, believe I'll do the same as you with a more aggressive tire, thanks for the vid, did the leveling give you any more clearance in the end
Yeah, the leveling kit truly lifted the front 1.5” higher and is noticeable when driving off-road, especially on this one urban development project I’m on.
Before the kit, a few of the limestone rocks sticking out of the ground would rub the front lower skid plate. Now, those rocks don’t even touch the bottom of my truck.
Turns out I did have a little tire rub, but weirdly it was only when I turned full-lock in reverse. The leveling kit made that go away almost. I had to lightly trim the front mud flaps on the inside. No more rubbing.
Love the stance...can you get the same result without spacers if you get new wheels with more of an offset...I think the stock Nissan wheels are +23mm. So maybe a 0mm offset would still let the tires to stick out?
Yeah, of course. You just need to pay attention to the width of the wheel, offset, and tire size.
Factory Pro-4X wheels are 18x8 +23 running a 275/70r18 tire. 1.5” spacers would be equivalent to a -15 offset in this setup. I think 0 offset is actually perfect for these trucks since you’ll likely be running a wider wheel with a wider tire. So it will more than make up for that 15mm deficit.
A lot of people think that offset and wheel width are unrelated, and that’s just not true. “Offset” is the offset distance from the center. So, an 18x9 +0 wheel will stick out .5” (12.7mm) further than an 18x8 +0.
@@Inner_Sanctum yup…I was thinking about doing the same leveling kit with 20x9 +0 wheels with 275/60R/20 tire…would definitely like to avoid any trimming.
Excellent video! I am getting ready to do this with mine. Do you think 295/70/18 would fit? I don’t mind taking the mud flaps off.
Nice improvements for the spend! I am getting ready to put some Titan 1" spacers on my Frontier P4X myself. Did you locktite the hub bolts?
Did you have any noticeable ride difference good or bad with the 1.5" kit? Thinking about upgrading but not wanting to sacrifice ride quality... Loved the video, your truck looks great!
Good vid trying to decide if i wanna go like yours or 2c inch or 3 inch all around kit
Any tips to install the strut back in if I do not have a spring compressor ?
No spring compression is needed. Guessing you got it figured out.
spacers installed and they look great. but the y do rub the inside of the splash guards on turns. bummer.
Interesting that they rub. Hmm. I’m bummed you got that result.
I mentioned down on one of the comments that I did actually have a little rub when in reverse at full-lock. Didn’t know till after the video unfortunately. It was only slightly, and mine are 1.5”. So, if you’re running 1” and rubbing bad, I am surprised.
I just lightly trimmed the inner top side of the splash guard with my oscillator tool, and my slight rub vanished when reversing. Plus, I cut it in a way that was not noticeable unless you had a new one next to you to compare.
1.5 in is a good choice especially if you ever tow.
Great video. I have a 2021 Pro-4x. Did you need to do anything to the vehicle lugs for the wheel spacers, or was it simply a direct bolt-on?
Nope, just bolted them onto the factory lugs.
Never done wheel spacers before. Does anything go on the backside of the wheel spacer during install?
If you buy the correct fitting hub centric wheel spacers, they are the easiest thing in the world to install.
You remove your wheel, remove any surface rust from the brake rotor hat (if neccessary), install the wheel spacer w/ the supplied open lug nuts, torque everything down to spec, then reinstall your wheel and torque it to spec.
Even though it's not really neccessary, I like to remove my wheels after the first 500 miles and check/retorque the spacer lugs to just make sure they are good to go from there on out. I have personally never had one that was loose during the reinspection.
Looking at adding wheel spacers as well to my 2020 Pro4x. I'm torn between Titan and Bora. Like you said Bora is double the price of Titan. Have you had any issues with Titan brand wheel spacers? I know Bora has a warranty on their wheel spacers, does Titan?
Have had no issues with mine. I’ve put about 10,000 miles on the truck since install. Not sure about warranty. I mean if a solid chunk of metal from Bora or Titan fails, you’ve probably got bigger problems at that point.
How’s it holding up today? Also, was the spacers necessary? Great video
I picked up a set of Titan 1.5” wheel spacers and installed them on my 21 pro4x but the lug stud isn’t long enough to reach the end of the nut. If I was to guess there’s about 5/8 threads in the nut. Does this sound right or dangerous ?? Any help is appreciated! Thanks for the content.
Doesn't make sense what you're trying to say.
I have a 2017 Titan SV with a 3" Roughcountry lift. I put 33-12.5-18 tires on factory rims. I tried 1" spacers but the drivers side tire rubs pretty bad. Any thoughts. I don't want to cut anything
How is that 3 inch rough country lift?
Did you have to trim your original strut studs where the spacer sits on top of?
So they’re flush with the top of level kit, or were they recessed in? Thanks
@@nickringler3394 they sit inside the recesses in the spacer. No trimming.
Thanks brotha
How are you liking it so far? StreetRays is close so I may get a 2 inch spacer for my Titan since I have a 1" for the back.
If you already have a 1” block for the rear, then yeah, I think a 2” front kit would work well.
I am very pleased with how everything turned out. No issues off-road or on-road so far.
will I have to shave the lugs down on a 1' set?
I don’t think you’ll have an issue with a 1” set of spacers. The studs wouldn’t stick out very far, and the small amount that they would stick out would easily fit into the backside “reliefs” of the wheel.
@@Inner_Sanctum awesome thanks, man. You know your shit. I just got a set on Amazon for 98 bucks. I hope 1' look good enough. I also have a 2019 Pro-4x. But black. So I'll be watching your mods. And throw some amp research steps on that rig! 🤘🏼
Link for lift and wheel spacers?
Luck good ..what size the tire on you Titan now ?
They are still the factory tires. Haven’t messed with the truck since.
What year is this truck ?
Does this effect ride quality at all?
After wheel spacers? Yes. The truck has a 3” wider track width with the 1.5” spacers. So, it does feel more planted to the road.
After the leveling kit? No. Since the spacer sits on top of the factory strut/coil body it does not add or decrease spring rate, rebound, or compression characteristics. The truck drives the same in that regard.
Anything in the rear?
No lift in the rear, and the spacers are squared all around.
What tire size do you have?
Just the factory General Grabber ATP 275/70r18.
Looks good! How do you like your Titan? Debating between this and a ram rebel
My honest (revised) opinion:
I like my Titan. It does exactly what I need it to do and I haven’t had an issue with it thus far. I personally like the look of the truck and enjoy that this PRO-4X is more than capable for my needs/wants, is rather bare bones, and didn’t break the bank.
I’m not a huge fan of newer trucks for a litany of reasons, including my Titan, but that’s just the way it goes.
I saw a red Ram Rebel just the other day, and I think they look really badass. Definitely a tough stance on them for sure.
I think when it comes to new trucks, they are all going to be so similar across the board performance/capability/reliability wise. Just buy the one that stands out to you the most.
I have 17 pro 4x. Before i had a 07 titan purchased with 109k miles in 2013 just sold it 3 weeks ago with 243k miles same engine and transmission the only problems the lifters were a little loud on cold starts. It worked well towing a 7600lb camper in and out the deer woods. I also towed my sxs around with it alot. Never had to replace the starter or alternator. It was a damn good solidc truck that's why I purchased the new one i have
Bro! Dayyyyym... If it was on white letter out BFG's? It'll be 👌👌👌 I wonder if this kit fits the 2020 newer.
I would imagine so, the suspension is still the same.
Did you have to trim your wheel studs or did the wheel seat flush after install?
No issue with the wheels studs.
Glad to see you and the D21.
I guess the Titan is a replacement for the Frontier and the Soo-bee?
Frontier.......... ahhhhhh ok...... nothing special........ but the wagon....... if you got rid of that........ I am un-subbing. 😬
😄😄😄
I have all my toys still. Lol Also picked up a Q45.
@@Inner_Sanctum You made me a happy man! 😎👍