Compressed RAW vs Uncompressed RAW on Sony A7IV

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  • In this video I'm breaking down the differences I found between different RAW format compressions that are found in the newest Sony A7IV camera. We have 3 options to choose from - Uncompressed, Lossless Comp and Compressed and they also come with the limitation in the camera high speed shooting. But is the quality difference visible in final photos?
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  • @fitguy49
    @fitguy49 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Wow! This might be the most useful TH-cam video I’ve seen so far on the a7IV. Thank you. I’ve been a RAW shooter forever always using uncompressed format but this might change my mind

  • @TrevorMcGrathPhotography
    @TrevorMcGrathPhotography 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Deadly video! Great info, thanks very much and I love the t-shirt 😜
    Brilliant video style as well. No useless shenanigans. Just straightforward information.

  • @Kinadnuf
    @Kinadnuf 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Literally bought an a7iv yesterday, 28 July, and this video is SO helpful and confirmed what I thought, cheers buddy. Subbed too 🇬🇧

  • @PaperKittenProd
    @PaperKittenProd 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    really useful video! thank you so much!

  • @RitamBaidyaTech
    @RitamBaidyaTech 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Amazing content, loved this. ❤️ Thanks

  • @ErikStenbakken
    @ErikStenbakken 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Super useful. Thank you!

  • @MaikHansen
    @MaikHansen 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    That was helpful - thank you 😊🙏🏼

  • @ccarlos144
    @ccarlos144 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you for explaining this so well..you win a new subscriber....God bless you and your loved ones

  • @JorgePille
    @JorgePille ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks for the info!

  • @trippalhealicks
    @trippalhealicks 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Thank you for this analysis. I've recently been bouncing between lossless compressed and compressed with my A1. Glad to hear I can stick with compressed and not miss out on much, but gain the true 30fps bursts.

    • @MagicWeddingPhotographer
      @MagicWeddingPhotographer  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yup! I actually forgot that A1 also needs compressed RAWs for full speed! So at the end of the day, if you’re properly exposing your photos then you should be good to go with compressed!

  • @stevesvanderpool8653
    @stevesvanderpool8653 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice explanation!!

  • @YOUAREMYKIN
    @YOUAREMYKIN 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    So helpful. Thanks! 🙏🏽

  • @layed_black
    @layed_black 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks a lot! Love your content about the 7 iv!

  • @JacobGagoOfficial
    @JacobGagoOfficial 28 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Thank you for this

  • @HybridePassion
    @HybridePassion 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you very much ! I use A7 IV and I do exactly what you say : Raw lossless compressed except when I want 10 fps...and it's not a problem indeed !

  • @GiuseppeGessa
    @GiuseppeGessa 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for your video, is really useful and well explain the difference between the two version of raw files. Despite I take different kinds photos (wildlife) I go for compressed raw files, because there isn't difference in term of image quality, and in wildlife photography is better to have a good shooting burst, for not missing any important moment.

  • @Artshreddersoon
    @Artshreddersoon 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Another great video Magic! I just got my A74 and I’m excited! Got a wedding in a little over a week and gonna put it through its paces.

  • @rickymcc9072
    @rickymcc9072 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks Magic, that's a useful insight. Like you I always shot lossless compressed on earlier Sony models, a7riii, a7riv and a9. I'm in process of adjusting my kit going forward to start embracing video as well as stills. Sold all my bodies and just taken delivery of an a7iv. The idea of buying a a7Siii, although great for video, never seemed like a good idea for stills given just 12Mb.
    As I also like shooting sport, my a9 was last body to go. Hence your timely advice..... 10fps RAW lossy compressed is essentially OK unless I screw up the exposure vs 6fps lossless RAW. If and when I can stump up the funds for an a1, then it's good to know one gives up little to get 30fps - not that I can imagine often having that need for most sports work (I'm doing for fun as an amateur, not professionally where I might need to explain why I missed a shot).
    That said I'm genuinely puzzled as to why Sony would 'knobble' the fps down from 10 to 6 fps if there is so little practical difference between file sizes and compression algorithms? If it's the same processor as found in the it a1, then it's unlikely that the Bionz processor is causing any 'bottlenecks effect when calculating the compressed file.

  • @Revan89
    @Revan89 2 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    This is soooo useful Maciej. Im totally sold on the A7iv. Im going to switch from my trusty D750s to Sony. Your content aimed for wedding photographers was key for my decision. Thank you

    • @MagicWeddingPhotographer
      @MagicWeddingPhotographer  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Thank you for your kind words my friend! That was 100% my goal - to create content aimed for us, wedding folks!

    • @ashwinr7
      @ashwinr7 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Same for me. I switched from D750 to Sony A7iv. The difference is immense. So much more comfortable experience using the Sony.

  • @RickyTOHK
    @RickyTOHK ปีที่แล้ว

    Very good review and answer my question

  • @jjaylad
    @jjaylad 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I have mine on order and so anxious to work with it. Thanks for this!

    • @MagicWeddingPhotographer
      @MagicWeddingPhotographer  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Ah, you’re gonna have fun!

    • @jjaylad
      @jjaylad 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@MagicWeddingPhotographer I really have to try it out. Currently on D7200 with lots of good glass and good flash equipment for in and out of studio shooting. Use LR/PS/Luminar Ai (and Neo coming) for editing and so far have no issues quickly creating the DOF of full frame,. Shot lots with FF (D700, D810, D850) to make the comparison. So, I'll be doing comparisons for a week or two and if I find it amazingly better I will keep it otherwise I'll stick with my current arsenal of equipment, since almost nothing is compatible. Looking forward to the testing.

  • @joneson88
    @joneson88 ปีที่แล้ว

    finaly answer to my question. Thank you :)

  • @damienu.2668
    @damienu.2668 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Very useful thanks a lot. To be honest the main thing avoiding me to by an A7 IV compared to a Canon R6 was the obligation to compress the raws to reach 10 frames per second. Now i can be more trustful 👍

  • @ircouple4
    @ircouple4 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    thank you!

  • @Totte.Lundgren
    @Totte.Lundgren ปีที่แล้ว

    Very useful when thinking of giving up on Canon to grab the A7IV.

  • @bergerking31
    @bergerking31 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    great! Thanks!

  • @kaiyin1988
    @kaiyin1988 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Can you compare A1 and A74 Skintone, screen colour and ISO? Thank you so much.

  • @aCuria.
    @aCuria. 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for the confirmation that lossless compressed and uncompressed is identical as per what sony claims, I can shoot lossless without any qualms
    Regarding the compressed RAW , maybe it would be useful to test those scenarios that broke compressed RAW on older Sony cameras...
    IIRC multiple bright spots against a black background had rings in the bright-to-dark transitions
    One example of this is fireworks
    I am guessing a laser pointer spot in a black room will cause the same effect.

  • @calbarton
    @calbarton 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Since the a74 has 3 custom mode slots, you could assign uncompressed to one slot and compressed to another slot.

    • @rj350z
      @rj350z 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      That's what I do. Lossless compressed to setting 1, which I use for general shooting with decent to good light. I set 2 to uncompressed with a bump in iso for night shooting. I have 3 set for action mode, using compressed raw.

    • @calbarton
      @calbarton 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@rj350z that's brilliant, you get the absolute best quality for each situation.

  • @pedrol.5417
    @pedrol.5417 ปีที่แล้ว

    Good video !!!
    How about in the A7RV?

  • @galaxystars6409
    @galaxystars6409 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hello magic... I've just got my camera and don't have a lens, what do u reccomend

  • @justonbrazda3846
    @justonbrazda3846 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    You should talk about the bit depths and how they change spending on drive mode and compression. You might get 12 but you might get 14 but.

  • @gauthamsuresh2474
    @gauthamsuresh2474 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    If we are using a 100 mm lens on a full frame camera , at what real distance will a 1 mtr long diagonal placed rod / stick will occupy the full 35mm diagonal of frame ??

  • @RafalWylegala
    @RafalWylegala 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Good job✌️

  • @networm64
    @networm64 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Man that intro cracked me up so bad!🤣🤣🤣

  •  2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I own A7R IV ver. A. There is no RAW lossless format. I'm wonder if "compressed" means the same as "compressed" in previous A7R IV? Is there also no difference in image quality?

  • @JacopoDiGiuli
    @JacopoDiGiuli 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    EPIC intro!! aahahaahha... thanks!

  • @I922sParkCir
    @I922sParkCir 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I'm in a beach town in Southern California and frequently shoot into a sunset. To preserve sunsets and the detail in the ocean I heavily underexpose my couples. In these common situations uncompressed raw has an advantage. I set a memory recall on my PSAM dial for uncompressed in those scenarios.

  • @gautamkumar1625
    @gautamkumar1625 ปีที่แล้ว

    PLEASE HELP!!... I RECENTLY DID A WEDDING IN LOSSLESS COMPRESSION FORMAT. I AM NOT ABLE TO OPEN RAW FILES. BUT WHEN I SHOOT UNCOMPRESSED THEN THEY ARE TOTALLY WORKING. ONLY WHEN I SHOOT COMPRESSED THEN I AM NOT ABLE TO OPEN OR EDIT THEM. I HAVE LATEST VERSION OF LIGHTROOM CLASSIC.

  • @Quintinlicious
    @Quintinlicious ปีที่แล้ว

    My light room doesn’t open these awr files. How am i supposed to edit raw if i can’t open it?

  • @Alex-Estilo
    @Alex-Estilo ปีที่แล้ว

    That intro was CINEMATIC haha

  • @tc1903
    @tc1903 ปีที่แล้ว

    For me I had some troubles importing my compressed RAW from A7 III. I thought Lightroom classic 2022 would uncompress the photo, but it didn't. I had to use another app to open the file. Someone here has a clue ? Thanks :)

  • @f0t0b0y
    @f0t0b0y 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    0:53 Have you ever discussed what camera strap you use? I've wanted to dual cam but I'm not a fan of the holdfast moneymaker. Thanks!

    • @f0t0b0y
      @f0t0b0y 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Oh! Just found it in your camera gear list. 🍻

  • @roberto17a
    @roberto17a ปีที่แล้ว

    MAGIC!!!! :)

  • @shearel3
    @shearel3 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Do you use 10FPS shooting weddings?

  • @hugojaramillo6788
    @hugojaramillo6788 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Awesome video and really helpful....just received my A7iv and its amazing but quick question how am I able to transfer raw images from the camera to phone because every time I try to transfer raw images from the sony app the images aren't able to open in gallery only Jpeg can. Or how do you transfer your raw images?

    • @Justmakesomenoiz
      @Justmakesomenoiz 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      U can change that in the settings. I can pull from my camera to my iPhone and then into lightroom.

  • @fiendebaerdemaeker8790
    @fiendebaerdemaeker8790 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi Magic! It has nothing do to with this video, but could you make a video about how you make your evening shots at the parties? They look really nice with all the different light trails and double exposures. But I don't know how to achieve that with your subject still being in focus. Thanks!

    • @MagicWeddingPhotographer
      @MagicWeddingPhotographer  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Hey Fien! I’m actually finishing my online masterclass on how I shoot with one flash - so all the techniques, tips and tricks and examples of different scenarios coming within 2-3 weeks!

  • @sebakrarup
    @sebakrarup ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks for the video and the files! I can tell the difference in quality, so I'll use uncompressed RAW! I can see little square pixels in the compressed and lossless compressed files, in the uncompressed files they look smoother, especially in the corners! Thanks again!

  • @juanignaciocali
    @juanignaciocali 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey man! Great video! I recently get a 7IV but i can´t previe the photos. Not even in Lightroom. Do you have any recomendation? I use a macbook pro. Thanks!

    • @MagicWeddingPhotographer
      @MagicWeddingPhotographer  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      My guess would be that you Lr is not up to date. Sony A7IV requires the latest LR CC update

    • @juanignaciocali
      @juanignaciocali 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@MagicWeddingPhotographer I'll try that, thanks!

  • @Der_Marc
    @Der_Marc 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    U get a Abo fpr your Lego Intro - the rest is also very Inrteressting for me ;-) Thank you very much.

  • @mattrom52
    @mattrom52 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I love the intro. haha

  • @JasonLawrenceNoel
    @JasonLawrenceNoel 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    ⁠​​⁠Magic!!! What raw compression do you use most often on your a7rv ?

    • @MagicWeddingPhotographer
      @MagicWeddingPhotographer  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Lossless Medium RAW

    • @JasonLawrenceNoel
      @JasonLawrenceNoel 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@MagicWeddingPhotographer a reply from the man himself 🙏🙌 Ty sir

  • @vinse81
    @vinse81 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Did you notice a slower post processing of lossless image file (let's say in Lightroom) compare to compressed image file ?

    • @MagicWeddingPhotographer
      @MagicWeddingPhotographer  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I did not. But that’s very hard to catch I think. I’ll look into it!

    • @vinse81
      @vinse81 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@MagicWeddingPhotographer Thank you.

  • @juanvaca-ramirez4858
    @juanvaca-ramirez4858 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The question I have is are you considering moving from the a7r3 to the A7IV?

    • @MagicWeddingPhotographer
      @MagicWeddingPhotographer  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yup, I’m switching from 2xA7R3 to 2xA7IV for the upcoming wedding season

  • @svensonsen
    @svensonsen 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Do you think upgrading from the Sony a7 riii to the A7IV is worth as a wedding photographer? :-)

    • @MagicWeddingPhotographer
      @MagicWeddingPhotographer  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I did exactly that. Upgraded from 2xA7RIII to 2xA7IV, so I think it is :) The af system is way better, plus the bigger body grip, buttons, two fast card slots and superb video performance as a bonus :P

    • @svensonsen
      @svensonsen 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@MagicWeddingPhotographer thank you for your thoughts :)

  • @zariamultimedia
    @zariamultimedia 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    NEED HELP!!!!!! I have 4 Sony A7IV issues/questions to solve before a big paid gig coming up!!!!!
    BTW, love your tech and your sense of humor, keep up the great work sir!
    Note: I just received this camera two days ago from B&H along with the Sony 20mm 1.8 and the Tamron 28-75mm 2.8. I am an event and portrait hybrid shooter partially switching over from Fuji mainly because of the better autofocus, the unlimited recording time, the better lens selection and the higher megapixels. I have two X-T4 bodies with several of their best lenses and accessories and I'm going to sell one X-T4 now, if the upcoming X-T5 can compete with the A7IV, especially autofocus, then I might stay with Fuji, if not, then I'm selling ALL my Fuji gear and buying another A7IV or one of their higher flagship models. Fuji are you reading this???????????????
    1. When I connect my OSEE 4k external monitor via HDMI to my brand new Sony A7IV, the monitor works great but now I can't get my LCD screen to work at the same time so I can have touch focus and touch tracking during video shooting. The LCD screen just totally goes black every time the monitor is connected. I'm looking all over the internet and TH-cam for a fix, can anybody suggest the right settings that can help me out please?
    2. I can't get my Crane S2 to connect with my A7IV via the USB cable, all I really want is for the record button function on the gimble to work, everything else would just be a nice bonus. I read somewhere that it might not be possible to have both an external HDMI output and USB connectivity with the Crane S2 simultaneously. Any experts out there know the real deal????
    3. I experienced a really weird bug already on just the 2nd day of practice shooting. My record button for video just wouldn't do anything, the camera was apparently just staying in standby mode, it was just displaying the green "STBY" message in the bottom left hand corner of the screen, everything looked completely normal on the LCD but I just could not record any video. I switched over to photos and that was fine. Turning the camera on and off did not work either. The only fix was dropping the battery out of the camera for a few and then when I put it back in everything was fine regarding video recording, this was weird and does not really give me a lot of confidence so far with the A7IV? Anybody else experience this weird bug? Sony are you reading this????????????? This issue got me to thinking about number 4 below.
    4. Is there a newer firmware out there yet for the A7IV? My camera's currently at 1.00, if there is, what is the link?
    Thanks for reading this book too, I really appreciate any and all feedback from my NEW Sony Homies! 😆
    "Z"

  • @mathu_stans
    @mathu_stans ปีที่แล้ว

    Ha. i had to hit the like button when i heard "Father of four".
    i am a father of one and learning photography.

  • @MarianMoisii
    @MarianMoisii 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    sony a74 give you uncompressed file 6 fps wich is extremely low for this price.

  • @Daniel_Ilyich
    @Daniel_Ilyich 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    If Lossless Compressed is exactly like Uncompressed, why does Uncompressed even exist? It has to have some kind of advantage for it to exist, no?

  • @rommelbautista6480
    @rommelbautista6480 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    👋🏼👋🏼heyyyyyy supp

    • @MagicWeddingPhotographer
      @MagicWeddingPhotographer  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      🕺🏻🕺🏻

    • @rommelbautista6480
      @rommelbautista6480 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@MagicWeddingPhotographer hey magic, just bought your preset, now its time to learn the magic :)

    • @MagicWeddingPhotographer
      @MagicWeddingPhotographer  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@rommelbautista6480 oh dude, thanks so much! Make sure you also download bonus content from A7IV editing session that’s linked in the confirmation email!

  • @BillAshtonNelo
    @BillAshtonNelo 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Why do Sony ARW files come out looking processed (sat, contrast added)? My Canon cameras come out super flat.

  • @MrMatadorka
    @MrMatadorka 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Dobra to teraz po polsku xd lekko skompresowany wystarczy xd