After playing Dawn of War, I actually had no idea Warhammer 40k was mainly a tabletop game. This video was my first contact with the tabletop. After that it was 5 years of failure to get into the game, now here I am, putting the final paint jobs on my third army.
Very late after this vid was originally posted, but thank you ...... having got back into the game after many many years away its a great refresher. Thank you so much for your hard work.
i think that even a basic demonstration should contain the wound allocation mechanism, because it is very important as soon as there are different models within a unit.
@jimeronimo It's that way to represent the squad protecting the heavy weapon or special weapons, and we generally take from the back so it represents the guys at the front going down to fire and the guys at the back moving up to take the place
@doggydude227 it does matter. If you shoot a guy in the front and take him from the back then the guy in the front still has range to shoot, when the guy in the back may not have. Also, you should be able to choose who you want to shoot, like which model, the one with this gun or that. Adds more strategy, and makes way more sense.
Thank you! Great tutorial - very simple and easy to understand. I'm new to the Warhammer 40k tabletop (I haven't even painted my pieces on the Assault on Black Reach starter kit) and my only question was: why where there alot of dice? And this vid basically answered that question.
@Cwafter you don't need to get citadel paints but i recommend at least getting the citadel washes. a set of paints and three brushes from anywhere else (you must get acrylic paints. don't skimp out for the low-quality stuff) that'll run you maybe 25-30 bucks. so with two armies, rules books, all the equipment you need to get started might cost you in the neighbourhood of 150. it's a great investment and a respected hobby. it does get expensive when you really get into it
Sorry about the language, no disrespect meant =) Tyranids fighting is powerfully instinctual, like a spider leaping on a fly. So there is very little thought involved, very little need for them to train to focus on what they are doing because they already do it as best as they can. Also alot of the weapons fire living creatures. For example: Fleshborers fire beetles that have "flea like legs" and propel them towards the enemy and can then stear them towards their target. Hope that helps =)
Any newbies playing, make sure you are actually playing SIXTH edition, because it is a little more complex (due to only one saving throw, no allocation of wounds [special rules over rule this], etc.) Along with many other nice features to the game.
I don't know if someone's already made a comment about this, but in 6th edition (latest version of the game for you who don't know), you can't remove any models you like when you're being hammered by gunfire. You have to remove those closest to the firing enemy, and this is just realistic, since those guys at the front would most likely get shot down before the guys who are further to the back. Though, this game isn't all about the bureaucracy of the rules .Besides, this vid might be from 5th ed
@Cwafter so 500 won't be far off if you want to get serious but that's up to you and you can still have lots of fun and spend LOTS of time putting together and painting your starter armies before deciding to continue. hope this helped.
points are kind of like supplies...in a way...."a squad" takes of 50 points(by no means is this near any real number) and the battle limit is 1000 points, so you have used 50 points so you have 950 left, you also bring in 3 tanks and they take 300 points, and so on and so forth until you have a 1000 point army it ensures that you are entering the battlefield on equal terms w/ your enemy
@underfire987 i suppose but there is one thing that nobody can fault GW on, they got balls for raising the prices again and when they eventually go bankrupt they will have left a huge influence on the hobby and left people a lot of happy memories.
it is the best way to do it, yes the game is expensive, everyone hates GW prices, the mechanics work very well, creates a very good balance. Read myklcoz's comment regarding measurements and you will see why a simple grid system wouldn't work, along with the ways you move figures etc After a few games, you get used to the distances so you measure less and less, once you get used to the weapons you just know when they are in range etc.
@iGab90 That's true. But Tabletop is also infinite replayability. And also infinite maps to play on. :) (And there's 14 factions to play) But you don't get any paints or brushes in the Assault on Black Reach. Just modells, and do you know how much 2750pts is in Tabletop? You get two armies on about 600 points.
@TheMineCraftingGinge Well technically, it depends on if you like sci-fi or fantasy the best. Now if you can't decide which one you prefer, you could go into 40k and pick space orks, who all typically have axes and swords. If you strictly like fantasy, you could go with fantasy, and if you strcitly like sci-fi then you could go into 40k.
Not quite. You compare the attacker's Strength to the Defender's toughness, and based on a table in the rulebook, you get what you have to roll to wound. Once you have wounded, THEN you take the armor save. Hormaguants do have an armor save, but the Space Marine weapons had a high enough Armor Penetration value that it was ignored. Therefore, once they rolled to wound, they automatically died.
Citadel paints and hobby sets are a bit overpriced. Buy any cheap acrylic paint and primer, and an x-acto knife. Citadel glue is pretty good though, but most modeling glues will do fine. Also, in terms of brushes, get a multi-piece pack with varying brush sizes. Also get the Necron codex for army specifics.
@bigblazer53 No, the run move is rolling one dice. The number it shows is the allowed run move in inches. This random thing sucks, and will probably be changed in next edition of the ruleset.
Well the new Tau codex is supposed to come out next Summer, so you might want to wait. Your call. If you're mainly in it for painting and modelling, check out coolminiornot, there's a lot of cool Tau conversions. And by the way, I just happen to play Tau too.
If you're taking suggestions ..... you should devote one video to grenades , the tyopes, , and how they work. It was one of the hardest concepts my friends and I had to figure out in the begining.
i dont have the financial ability to get involved in 40k tabletop, but at least i can watch how to play so that someday in the future, i will know what im doing. thx for the vids
@spykay thats now incorrect completely nad hasnt been in years, now weapons can fire on the move (if lcassed as assualt) or only when standing (if squad has not moved) tanks and stuff get different rules
@MascisMan1 My original intent being jest aside... i was under the impression it was like a mini grenade gun of sorts, kinda like those helicopter grenade guns but hand-held. (Think chaos gate, rather than dawn of war) All the fluff seems to point to that in my personal opinion. Yes I'm being VERY pedantic, but you asked for it :P.
Thats a really good introduction. Everyone else fills his first video with a lot of numbers that no one is interested in (the 2'' unit coherency thing, the toughness tables, etc.)
tyranids live to evolve into the best killing machines constantly, some shoot some dont, and they have been around much much longer, evolving their guns and closecombat
@inflictionary well actually youre not buying the cd itself but the work of many designers, engineers and developers. You can also get a digital copy :D
Look at it this way. You could train your whole life to do some mad kung fu stuff and pinch a stone out of Mr. Miyagi's hand and even catch a fly in mid air in your hand. But a frog is born genetically programmed to catch flies, moths, other insects and maybe even small birds buzzing through the air. And even better than that it can catch them with it's tongue! Because frogs are awesome!
@DiscordianArray because the first part was just showing off the main rules and talking about them, so this is the first table top demonstation, you havent missed anything (cept rule explinations)
You have a point but still, Tau have rail guns, ral rifels etc. all inds of aiming tecnology. And all they do is shooting and training at shooting. So they should be a bit better.
@anonymous247n not really I just leave the book open on the table beside me, it's simpler if you play it a few times with someone who knows the rules :)
Measuring by counting grid boxes does not equal straight line distance. Most measurements are from weapon/base or chassis to base or chassis. our models move in straight lines, not chessboard hops.
i wouldnt say it would cost thousands, depending on how long you play, but for a decent army your gonna have to spend a few hundred, however i highly suggest you have people in mind to play against, or a place to go where people play the game, otherwise it wouldnt really be a good use of the money
yes, or you can opt to not move at all. Some characters benefit from not moving, like a space marine with a missile launcher. When it says 6 inches, that is the maximum that you can move, other then that, there is no minimum
@shinmusashi44 neither does warhammer being made out of plastic, you pay for game developers for the video games and warhammer, you pay for artists to create cover art for both. rules being made, distribution for both. People's employment ie. games workshop store employees. It's bassically the same context. People say why spend the money on plastic but you're paying for the game not the actual physical thing.
Hey guys at miniwargaming, Have you ever played Empire Of The Undead? Its a lot like Warhammer but slightely differant! its rly fun and the characters and armies are really detailed and cool! Could you consider doing a video of you playing? tanx
Found a mistake: the missile launcher's range is 48 inches not 24. regardless of if you're firing krak or frag missile. Though you must declare which kind of missile you're firing before you do so.
When this video was made, the defending player got to choose which models were removed. But the rules have changed, and now the models closest to the firing unit are removed. So, they would be taken off the front of the squad.
im angry at the increase of price but ill still be buying the models. Even the people who say there never going to buy GW stuff again will end up buying new models as the new edition,codexes and miniatures come out they will get back into the hobby no matter what the price is
thats why they have the longest shooting range. High tech =/= power. You can arm a man with a world war 2 T-34 cannon and build a tiger tank arround him (pretty much typical space marine) and he'll be still deadlier than one with G36 assault rifle and fanciest shit you can pullout nowdays. I would really recommend reading through Deathwatch RPG by Fantasy Flight Games they made a lot of explaining about how Tau live, think and what philosophy stands behind their tech and weapons
@saintmichaelsarmoury Yeah i know i'm not disputing that I'm actually saying that there is more to it then that just like there is more to warhammer then just buying the plastic models designers and employees have to get paid which is where the majority of money goes to for both so although the physical cost of the plastic is small for both the price of the finished product comes from the development of it.
@TheGonzonaut I think he doesn't realise that this is tabletop, or how much fun tabletop games are.. if I were a kid that never heard of these kind of games but did know the computergame (which is also awsome) i could react the same. I think to really appreciate this you have to visit a store and play an introductiongame
@jackh337 Try looking up other producers, and making a "counts as" IG or tyrnaid army (for example). You won't be able to go to any tournaments with it (mostly) but friendly games work out well. Try Urban mammoth or warmachine for models (though both are still "quite" expensive), or just go on ebay. Lots of cheap minis to be bought there as long as you have the time/patience to do some paint-removal.
Funny, I feel similarly. Table-top wargames always appealed to me, but watching it play out *feels* about as exciting as putting together furniture hehe. Now with that said, I enjoyed playing Magic (MTG) and Battleship: Galaxies which I newly bought. A PC version might seem "smoother/fun" but then loses the appeal/feel of real physical models. What to do!? I always wished for a hybrid: a PC app to manage the "boring" rules, so you can concentrate on the fun and tactics in the physical realm!
This actually looks pretty cool in concept, but since there is so much minutia involved (table values, statistics, etc.), I'd say it would be better as a RTS computer game. I know the appeal is probably in being with your friends, but I would still prefer a PC version.
It's actually very intuitive once you get the hang of it. Watch some 'battle reports' on the miniwargaming channel here. But if you're just going to disregard the entire hobby because of a nine minute video, then maybe we don't want you playing with us anyway.
@kingdomaster Any new Ps3 or Xbox 360 game being sold in Canada. The regional disparity of prices between us and the united states is ridiculous; you're looking at about 59.99 to 69.99, plus tax... which just about crests the $80 mark, whereas the US gets new games at closer to 49.99. Just compare the GW prices in Canada to the ones in the US, then compare the actual conversion rates. Something doesn't add up.
there is, it's called warhammer 40k:dawn of war there's also 3 expansions, winter assault, dark crusade(which i have and is awesome), and soulstorm(which apparantly sucks) they all add playable races(tyranids aren't playable until soulstorm, necrons aren't til dark crusade, sisters of battle aren't til soulstorm, tau aren't til dark crusade, and I don't know much about the original and winter assault)
@Cwafter don't listen to Eradzer0. there's no way you'll end up spending 500 bucks just to get started. I highly recommend an assault on black reach starter kit even if you don't plan on starting with orks or space marines. that's about 120 starter kit. then go buy some highly viscous hobby glue from another store. mine is almost like water that you brush onto your models and it glues very well. don't get globby glue if that makes sense. 8-10 bucks there. then some brushes and paint
How to win WH 40k tabletop: 1.Meet Matt Ward 2.Become his friend and resist every single urge to decapitate his hands and posting pics of them on 1d4chan 3.Tell him to write a codex for the army you are currently playing. 4.????? 5.PROFIT!!!
Admittingly I'm not a warhammer/40k guy but this helped to understand it. I'm curious... The Player who's army was wounded chooses which guys to pull off the table INSTEAD of the guy doing the attacking? If that's right I don't understand that.
You know when you are shooting with the tamplate it's The BS minus the deflection. For example if you roled 5 inces to the left you do 5-the BS of the Space marine.
Ok thanks. I'll keep that in mind. I might be able to get a few friends to play for a while but there is probably a place where they host sessions for this. Alright thanks! :D
I already play fantasy so this isn't all that confusing. What I think I'm going to do is find a friend, bring him/her to the store, play a game then buy black reach
i love how people complain about the "price hikes". I did that math and GW has raised the price of a land raider $12 over the past TEN years!!! thats about a $1.30 each year. If you guys cant afford an extra $1.30 then maybe you shouldnt be playing table top games in the first place. "just sayin"
I've actually seen the way that playing WH40K has improved my sons' ability to estimate distances and sizes. Audiodump - there are simpler games out there, go play one of them instead of complaining about one with millions of happy players.
How to play WH 40k tabletop: 1. Play Chaos Space Marines. 2. You'll only need a handful. 3. Obtain BLOOD FOR THE BLOOD GOD! SKULLS FOR THE SKULL THRONE!
How to play Warhammer 40K,
Have a lot of money
Have a lot of time
Have a lot of patience
Good lord, this is really nostalgic. This is the video that taught me how to play, and got me into this game. Thanks, guys.
After playing Dawn of War, I actually had no idea Warhammer 40k was mainly a tabletop game. This video was my first contact with the tabletop. After that it was 5 years of failure to get into the game, now here I am, putting the final paint jobs on my third army.
Even though this guide is outdated i still love coming back to this turorial. Remember watching this when i was 10 or 11
How to play WH 40K:
1. Get Imperial guard and do infantry mainly
2. Loose repeatedly and wonder why
Very late after this vid was originally posted, but thank you ...... having got back into the game after many many years away its a great refresher. Thank you so much for your hard work.
How to play war hammer 40k: have a lot monay
LODZ EMONE
True.
i love your series im starting to get into this game and your tutorials battle reports help alot
episode 1 part 1 "welcome back to part 2" lol wut
Watched this before I had my first game at my local store today, it was a lot to take in but once you start playing you pick it up real fast!
i think that even a basic demonstration should contain the wound allocation mechanism, because it is very important as soon as there are different models within a unit.
@jimeronimo It's that way to represent the squad protecting the heavy weapon or special weapons, and we generally take from the back so it represents the guys at the front going down to fire and the guys at the back moving up to take the place
@doggydude227 it does matter. If you shoot a guy in the front and take him from the back then the guy in the front still has range to shoot, when the guy in the back may not have. Also, you should be able to choose who you want to shoot, like which model, the one with this gun or that. Adds more strategy, and makes way more sense.
I’m actually starting to play 5th edition so thank you for leaving this video up
Thank you! Great tutorial - very simple and easy to understand. I'm new to the Warhammer 40k tabletop (I haven't even painted my pieces on the Assault on Black Reach starter kit) and my only question was: why where there alot of dice? And this vid basically answered that question.
@Cwafter you don't need to get citadel paints but i recommend at least getting the citadel washes. a set of paints and three brushes from anywhere else (you must get acrylic paints. don't skimp out for the low-quality stuff) that'll run you maybe 25-30 bucks. so with two armies, rules books, all the equipment you need to get started might cost you in the neighbourhood of 150. it's a great investment and a respected hobby. it does get expensive when you really get into it
I haven't played in a while and I'm starting again. This really helped, thanks!
Sorry about the language, no disrespect meant =) Tyranids fighting is powerfully instinctual, like a spider leaping on a fly. So there is very little thought involved, very little need for them to train to focus on what they are doing because they already do it as best as they can. Also alot of the weapons fire living creatures. For example: Fleshborers fire beetles that have "flea like legs" and propel them towards the enemy and can then stear them towards their target. Hope that helps =)
Any newbies playing, make sure you are actually playing SIXTH edition, because it is a little more complex (due to only one saving throw, no allocation of wounds [special rules over rule this], etc.) Along with many other nice features to the game.
I don't know if someone's already made a comment about this, but in 6th edition (latest version of the game for you who don't know), you can't remove any models you like when you're being hammered by gunfire. You have to remove those closest to the firing enemy, and this is just realistic, since those guys at the front would most likely get shot down before the guys who are further to the back. Though, this game isn't all about the bureaucracy of the rules .Besides, this vid might be from 5th ed
"Three term accounts have been destroyed." I enjoy reading the subtitles.
This will come in handy to introducing new players, thanks!
@Cwafter so 500 won't be far off if you want to get serious but that's up to you and you can still have lots of fun and spend LOTS of time putting together and painting your starter armies before deciding to continue. hope this helped.
If you're still looking, a new starter set featuring Chaos Space Marines versus Dark Angels Space Marines is coming out at the beginning of September.
How to play CSM:
1. Get Typhus & tons of zombie cultists.
2. Listen to swear words you never heard of because of tarpit.
3. Win.
The Tau are trained all their lives to shoot like that, but the 'nids were BORN to do do that. One is training, one is genetics.
Finally! it took me along time to figer this out. because no one would really show me how and the mannel was sometimes really hard to understand.
points are kind of like supplies...in a way...."a squad" takes of 50 points(by no means is this near any real number) and the battle limit is 1000 points, so you have used 50 points so you have 950 left, you also bring in 3 tanks and they take 300 points, and so on and so forth until you have a 1000 point army it ensures that you are entering the battlefield on equal terms w/ your enemy
@underfire987
i suppose but there is one thing that nobody can fault GW on, they got balls for raising the prices again and when they eventually go bankrupt they will have left a huge influence on the hobby and left people a lot of happy memories.
it is the best way to do it, yes the game is expensive, everyone hates GW prices, the mechanics work very well, creates a very good balance. Read myklcoz's comment regarding measurements and you will see why a simple grid system wouldn't work, along with the ways you move figures etc
After a few games, you get used to the distances so you measure less and less, once you get used to the weapons you just know when they are in range etc.
this is the nerdiest thing I have ever seen and I love it
@iGab90
That's true. But Tabletop is also infinite replayability. And also infinite maps to play on. :) (And there's 14 factions to play)
But you don't get any paints or brushes in the Assault on Black Reach. Just modells, and do you know how much 2750pts is in Tabletop? You get two armies on about 600 points.
@TheMineCraftingGinge Well technically, it depends on if you like sci-fi or fantasy the best. Now if you can't decide which one you prefer, you could go into 40k and pick space orks, who all typically have axes and swords. If you strictly like fantasy, you could go with fantasy, and if you strcitly like sci-fi then you could go into 40k.
Not quite. You compare the attacker's Strength to the Defender's toughness, and based on a table in the rulebook, you get what you have to roll to wound. Once you have wounded, THEN you take the armor save.
Hormaguants do have an armor save, but the Space Marine weapons had a high enough Armor Penetration value that it was ignored. Therefore, once they rolled to wound, they automatically died.
I miss blast templates and scatter dice :( added more "realism" to grenades and explosions and flamers.
Max Larsen damn, someone’s pissed
Citadel paints and hobby sets are a bit overpriced. Buy any cheap acrylic paint and primer, and an x-acto knife. Citadel glue is pretty good though, but most modeling glues will do fine. Also, in terms of brushes, get a multi-piece pack with varying brush sizes. Also get the Necron codex for army specifics.
@bigblazer53
No, the run move is rolling one dice. The number it shows is the allowed run move in inches. This random thing sucks, and will probably be changed in next edition of the ruleset.
Well the new Tau codex is supposed to come out next Summer, so you might want to wait. Your call. If you're mainly in it for painting and modelling, check out coolminiornot, there's a lot of cool Tau conversions.
And by the way, I just happen to play Tau too.
If you're taking suggestions ..... you should devote one video to grenades , the tyopes, , and how they work. It was one of the hardest concepts my friends and I had to figure out in the begining.
i dont have the financial ability to get involved in 40k tabletop, but at least i can watch how to play so that someday in the future, i will know what im doing. thx for the vids
@spykay thats now incorrect completely nad hasnt been in years, now weapons can fire on the move (if lcassed as assualt) or only when standing (if squad has not moved) tanks and stuff get different rules
@MascisMan1 My original intent being jest aside... i was under the impression it was like a mini grenade gun of sorts, kinda like those helicopter grenade guns but hand-held. (Think chaos gate, rather than dawn of war) All the fluff seems to point to that in my personal opinion. Yes I'm being VERY pedantic, but you asked for it :P.
Thats a really good introduction.
Everyone else fills his first video with a lot of numbers that no one is interested in (the 2'' unit coherency thing, the toughness tables, etc.)
tyranids live to evolve into the best killing machines constantly, some shoot some dont, and they have been around much much longer, evolving their guns and closecombat
This is still most needed to learn before getting redirected all over the place to the 6th edition rules. Many thx!
you gotta remeber orks have numbers as well...just shoot in the direction your buddy next to you is shooting in you might hit something important...
@inflictionary well actually youre not buying the cd itself but the work of many designers, engineers and developers. You can also get a digital copy :D
@1234LegoGuy1234
it was included with the bolt guns thats why there was 7 shots and not 6
@thecyberpunk Sometimes up to $50-60 per model... but those are generally Elites and HQs.
@TheWarmaster666 In 40k shooting weapons have AP "Armor Penetration" Bolters being AP5 cancel a 5+ or 6+ save.
Look at it this way. You could train your whole life to do some mad kung fu stuff and pinch a stone out of Mr. Miyagi's hand and even catch a fly in mid air in your hand. But a frog is born genetically programmed to catch flies, moths, other insects and maybe even small birds buzzing through the air. And even better than that it can catch them with it's tongue! Because frogs are awesome!
@DiscordianArray because the first part was just showing off the main rules and talking about them, so this is the first table top demonstation, you havent missed anything (cept rule explinations)
I miss the old days
You have a point but still, Tau have rail guns, ral rifels etc. all inds of aiming tecnology. And all they do is shooting and training at shooting. So they should be a bit better.
And that's how you counter Space marines that try to beat Orks:
1. Deploy more Orks
2. Overrun the Devastor and Tactical Squards
3. Win
@anonymous247n not really I just leave the book open on the table beside me, it's simpler if you play it a few times with someone who knows the rules :)
Aside from the few rules that he ignored, like not having synapse, rocket launchers having a 48 inch range, and bad wound allocation, not bad.
Measuring by counting grid boxes does not equal straight line distance. Most measurements are from weapon/base or chassis to base or chassis. our models move in straight lines, not chessboard hops.
i wouldnt say it would cost thousands, depending on how long you play, but for a decent army your gonna have to spend a few hundred, however i highly suggest you have people in mind to play against, or a place to go where people play the game, otherwise it wouldnt really be a good use of the money
yes, or you can opt to not move at all. Some characters benefit from not moving, like a space marine with a missile launcher. When it says 6 inches, that is the maximum that you can move, other then that, there is no minimum
@shinmusashi44 neither does warhammer being made out of plastic, you pay for game developers for the video games and warhammer, you pay for artists to create cover art for both. rules being made, distribution for both. People's employment ie. games workshop store employees. It's bassically the same context. People say why spend the money on plastic but you're paying for the game not the actual physical thing.
oooh nice. I only ever dealt with fluff all these years so this is perfect background entertainment while I prepare my next episode.
Finally, a good training video for WH 40K.
Hey guys at miniwargaming,
Have you ever played Empire Of The Undead? Its a lot like Warhammer but slightely differant! its rly fun and the characters and armies are really detailed and cool!
Could you consider doing a video of you playing?
tanx
Found a mistake: the missile launcher's range is 48 inches not 24.
regardless of if you're firing krak or frag missile.
Though you must declare which kind of missile you're firing before you do so.
When this video was made, the defending player got to choose which models were removed.
But the rules have changed, and now the models closest to the firing unit are removed. So, they would be taken off the front of the squad.
im angry at the increase of price but ill still be buying the models. Even the people who say there never going to buy GW stuff again will end up buying new models as the new edition,codexes and miniatures come out they will get back into the hobby no matter what the price is
thats why they have the longest shooting range. High tech =/= power. You can arm a man with a world war 2 T-34 cannon and build a tiger tank arround him (pretty much typical space marine) and he'll be still deadlier than one with G36 assault rifle and fanciest shit you can pullout nowdays. I would really recommend reading through Deathwatch RPG by Fantasy Flight Games they made a lot of explaining about how Tau live, think and what philosophy stands behind their tech and weapons
@saintmichaelsarmoury Yeah i know i'm not disputing that I'm actually saying that there is more to it then that just like there is more to warhammer then just buying the plastic models designers and employees have to get paid which is where the majority of money goes to for both so although the physical cost of the plastic is small for both the price of the finished product comes from the development of it.
Funny how Tyranids hit on the same number as Tau. I mean Tau are dedicating their lives to shooting and have the best technology.
@TheGonzonaut I think he doesn't realise that this is tabletop, or how much fun tabletop games are.. if I were a kid that never heard of these kind of games but did know the computergame (which is also awsome) i could react the same. I think to really appreciate this you have to visit a store and play an introductiongame
@thecyberpunk
Thats cause the Canadian dollar has gone up a lot since then for you. The models are more than double after this price hike.
@jackh337 Try looking up other producers, and making a "counts as" IG or tyrnaid army (for example).
You won't be able to go to any tournaments with it (mostly) but friendly games work out well. Try Urban mammoth or warmachine for models (though both are still "quite" expensive), or just go on ebay. Lots of cheap minis to be bought there as long as you have the time/patience to do some paint-removal.
Funny, I feel similarly. Table-top wargames always appealed to me, but watching it play out *feels* about as exciting as putting together furniture hehe. Now with that said, I enjoyed playing Magic (MTG) and Battleship: Galaxies which I newly bought. A PC version might seem "smoother/fun" but then loses the appeal/feel of real physical models. What to do!? I always wished for a hybrid: a PC app to manage the "boring" rules, so you can concentrate on the fun and tactics in the physical realm!
If the scatter is an arrow, you move it the 2d6 inches MINUS ballistic skill. VERY IMPORTANT.
This actually looks pretty cool in concept, but since there is so much minutia involved (table values, statistics, etc.), I'd say it would be better as a RTS computer game. I know the appeal is probably in being with your friends, but I would still prefer a PC version.
It's actually very intuitive once you get the hang of it. Watch some 'battle reports' on the miniwargaming channel here.
But if you're just going to disregard the entire hobby because of a nine minute video, then maybe we don't want you playing with us anyway.
@iGab90 was referring to the "get soulstorm and shit". that game has nothing to do with the tabletop game.
Amazing videos, thank you so much! It really helps me understand all the ins and outs of Warhammer. :D
Holy shit, the dude at the end was intense!
@kingdomaster Any new Ps3 or Xbox 360 game being sold in Canada. The regional disparity of prices between us and the united states is ridiculous; you're looking at about 59.99 to 69.99, plus tax... which just about crests the $80 mark, whereas the US gets new games at closer to 49.99. Just compare the GW prices in Canada to the ones in the US, then compare the actual conversion rates. Something doesn't add up.
@thatdudeoverthere456 Since the marines get one shot, rapid fire gives them two shots instead.
You have a point too but Tau still have all kinds of tecnology to help their aming and shooting, tyranids don't have it or have way worse tecnology.
there is, it's called warhammer 40k:dawn of war
there's also 3 expansions, winter assault, dark crusade(which i have and is awesome), and soulstorm(which apparantly sucks)
they all add playable races(tyranids aren't playable until soulstorm,
necrons aren't til dark crusade,
sisters of battle aren't til soulstorm,
tau aren't til dark crusade,
and I don't know much about the original and winter assault)
@Cwafter don't listen to Eradzer0. there's no way you'll end up spending 500 bucks just to get started. I highly recommend an assault on black reach starter kit even if you don't plan on starting with orks or space marines. that's about 120 starter kit. then go buy some highly viscous hobby glue from another store. mine is almost like water that you brush onto your models and it glues very well. don't get globby glue if that makes sense. 8-10 bucks there. then some brushes and paint
@eddieharr He skipped a rule for simplicity's sake called wound allocation
How to win WH 40k tabletop:
1.Meet Matt Ward
2.Become his friend and resist every single urge to decapitate his hands and posting pics of them on 1d4chan
3.Tell him to write a codex for the army you are currently playing.
4.?????
5.PROFIT!!!
Admittingly I'm not a warhammer/40k guy but this helped to understand it. I'm curious...
The Player who's army was wounded chooses which guys to pull off the table INSTEAD of the guy doing the attacking? If that's right I don't understand that.
You know when you are shooting with the tamplate it's The BS minus the deflection. For example if you roled 5 inces to the left you do 5-the BS of the Space marine.
Ok thanks. I'll keep that in mind. I might be able to get a few friends to play for a while but there is probably a place where they host sessions for this. Alright thanks! :D
I already play fantasy so this isn't all that confusing. What I think I'm going to do is find a friend, bring him/her to the store, play a game then buy black reach
when deciding which models to take out, who decides? the person who owns them or the person who's turn it is?
i love how people complain about the "price hikes". I did that math and GW has raised the price of a land raider $12 over the past TEN years!!! thats about a $1.30 each year. If you guys cant afford an extra $1.30 then maybe you shouldnt be playing table top games in the first place. "just sayin"
How to WIN A game of Warhammer 40K:
1. Buy a squad of Flamethrowers
2. Get to a closer range
3 BURN THE HERETICS, BURN THEM!!!
how to beat orks.
1. play space marines.
2. use devastator squads/tactical squad.
3. win.
This reminded me of Front Mission!
I've actually seen the way that playing WH40K has improved my sons' ability to estimate distances and sizes. Audiodump - there are simpler games out there, go play one of them instead of complaining about one with millions of happy players.
How to play 40K:
1. Get a shit ton of tyranids.
2. Send them all in at once
3. Rip everything to shreads
You take a left, you take a right, brick wall.
How to play WH 40k tabletop:
1. Play Chaos Space Marines.
2. You'll only need a handful.
3. Obtain BLOOD FOR THE BLOOD GOD! SKULLS FOR THE SKULL THRONE!