Navy Captain David Carey On Surviving As A POW With Admiral James Stockdale (with Stoicism)
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 30 ก.ค. 2023
- Ryan speaks with Navy Captain David Carey about his incredible experiences serving in Vietnam as a fighter pilot and being shot down and captured by North Vietnamese forces, how 2,022 days in captivity led to him embracing the teachings of Epictetus, why the community that he and his fellow POWs formed in prison saved them from depression, how he has been using his experiences to help others ever since, and more.
David Carey is a retired Navy Captain who served in the Vietnam War, as well as an author, motivational speaker, consultant, and trainer. After being deployed aboard the aircraft carrier USS Oriskany in 1966, he was forced to eject over North Vietnam and taken as a Prisoner of War. After serving 2,022 days in the camp, David was released during Operation Homecoming in 1973 and was awarded the Legion of Merit with Valor. Since his retirement from the Navy in 1986, David has dedicated his work to sharing his experiences in the hopes of helping others through his speaking and training engagements and his book The Ways We Choose, Lessons for Life from a POW's Experience. David’s work can be found at davecarey.com.
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“You have the capacity to get through whatever happens.” A perfect mantra for anyone.
Thank you for putting it here, really needed to hear that today... really appreciate it, 🙏🙂
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It's comforting to hear someone so poised, heroic, and stoic to express the anxiety freeze that us mere mortals also experience. Through this sort of candid storytelling, he saves MORE lives by inspiring us all to keep going.
This is legendary so far.
Lt. David Carey, Much respect to you Sir. God Bless.
I love Ryan, "Whatever you're interested in people will wanna hear it, I'm sure of it" - He knows his people! :)
Phenomenal Guest. Honored to hear.
What a gift this interview is. 🙏🏽
Fabulous interview: Ryan and Captain Carey! I didn’t want it to end, so I bought their respective books! 😂
Thank you David for your service! We appreciate you SO very much!!! Bless you!!
I've had my students journal for years... and I introduce it this way. I ask how many of you have ever thrown up and kind of felt better after? Most raise their hand... I then tell them that for me, to journal is like a "mental throw up". To get something out of my head that I know I'm kind of "stuck on", just makes me feel better.
I'll be showing the part around min 45, where he says that we were made to process outside of ourselves before we start Journaling
Even if I journal,it doesn't get out for me .... sleeping helps me loosen the grip of negative emotions.😊
Thanks LT!!! I love that your experience and lessons learned are still helping the rest of us! GO NAVY! (Class of '92)
Fantastic talk and great interview questions, Ryan. Really special.
This conversation is a marvel. Thank you so much!
Great session! I think it's hard for most serviceman to talk about an experience like this. Thank you for sharing and for your service!
A very inspiring and thought provoking interview Ryan. Thank you
Great interview !
Amazing experience, thanks for sharing with us :)
I love the smell of philosophy in the morning... (or in the evening which is what we got where I am at). Kudos!
What a fantastic interview!!!
Loved this so much ❤
Great meditation to start the day- Viktor Frankle describes our power being in that moment of pause between when something happens to us and our time to decide how to respond. We don't control what happens to us or the "force majeure", but we control how we respond. I may be wrong, but I think it was Frankle who created the robust concept of "proactivity" or "proactive"
That's one cool set. Great interview. 👍
Very inspirational human being, great interview.
8 minutes in, incredible story. Wow. That is a hard man.
We appreciate the insights shared on this channel. They're very insightful.
Fantastic...
Some wise words
Where is this at? The background is amazing!🙂
Good
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Remember what Epictetus said.
STOP ASKING QUESTIONS AND LET THE GUY TELL HIS STORY!
I appreciate Lt. Carey's sacrifice and his advice for facing adversity, but his assessment of PTSD and how to manage it is completely inaccurate. Especially in his comparisons of men returning from WWII and those coming home from Vietnam (and the more recent conflicts in Afghanistan and Iraq). The wars were completely different, and the men who fought in them experienced vastly different receptions when they returned home. First, WWII had clear objectives (defeat the Axis powers) that were accomplished. Vietnam, Afghanistan, and Iraq did not, and those wars were rife with moral ambiguity causing a lot of dissonance within those who fought. Veterans of WWII were received as heroes. Those who fought in Vietnam were often not. Secondly, wartime PTSD isn't necessarily caused by what is done to a soldier (though it is a contributing factor), but by what a soldier is often forced to do to other human beings - often at close quarters. And distance is a factor. According to Lt. Col. David Grossman's "ON KILLING," the men who dropped bombs on distant targets, far below, or who served as snipers, were far less likely to develop PTSD than the man in the jungle who has to engage in close combat, and look his enemy in the eye as slides the bayonet into his guts, or who is ordered to burn down a village with the zippo his father gave him. Those guys suffered real psychological trauma. And yes, because of these factors, many of the men who returned from WWII seemed to have done better and were able to "get on with life," but the truth is, they weren't. They were just better at keeping their trauma bottled up, and American culture at the time was much more accepting and encouraging of doing exactly that. So while they weren't blowing their brains out like veterans from Afghanistan, many of them were drinking themselves to death and beating the shit out of their wives and children behind closed doors, and our society was perfectly happy to turn a blind eye to it because it was the 50s and they were war heroes, and that's just how things were handled in America during that time.
I could keep going, but ultimately, what I want to say is this: Just because your singular experience of war was different from other combat veterans, and you haven't suffered PTSD (and it sounds like a big factor in your not suffering from PTSD is a result of having a support network inside prison - something many veterans never had during and after their ordeals), doesn't mean others haven't, or that it hasn't been debilitating for returning combat veterans, or anyone suffering from a horrible trauma. In the future, please broaden your focus, do a little research, and realize we all experience the world differently. And for those who are struggling with PTSD, please know you are loved and valued and that help and healing are available. You will get through this and find your light again.
.. as a German Biologist -
this is the Essence of Military training
to sacrifice your LIFE
When you are in War and fight to survive
you are a BAD Warrior
those who get killed are the best Warriors
every War is lost because of that
to survive as POW is easy
as you fight to survive
not to win a war
all dis Gusting
THE INTERVIEWER JUST WOULDN'T SHUT UP. HE RUINED A GREAT STORY
hey ryan…. i bet your son died in a previous life on a ship. it would be interesting to inquire about that.
Some wise words, although the whole American exceptionalism schtick was a bit much. Seriously socialism is common almost everywhere else in the world with higher standards of living, freedom, and democracy in almost every other significant and less significant Western US ally. Still each to their own, enjoy American corruption, imperialism, and demagoguery...
Socialism is not common. Most successful countries are capitalist with varying degrees of social intervention
@zzzMrgamerzzz Anytime a country has a public health service, that is socialism. Anytime the state provides free education, that is socialism. Anytime the state redistributes wealth via taxation, that is socialism. Just because Americans like to compare socialism to Venezuela and Cuba doesn't mean that it doesn't include Germany, or Norway, or other stable, wealthy, and successful countries. Norway's sovereign fund built from North Sea oil has been used to reinvest in education, health, and many other projects that support and benefit the citizens rather than the capitalist class.
@@darylmckay I agree that these are good things and should be celebrated, but this is not regarded as a socialist state. In order for a state to be socialist, there can be no private ownership. All capital is owned by the state and the people must trust that the state will use it to the people's interest. If you allow private ownership; you, by definition, are not a socialist state. What you are referring to is a social democracy. (Which is the economic system that I personally support)
@@darylmckaya better example is Britain's National Health Service. Every and any intervention is free at the point of delivery. Can you Yanks imagine such a thing? But this is also why there is a waiting list/time for most...
@zzzMrgamerzzz I think you need to research more, my friend. For a beginning socialism is not the same as a socialist state in the same way that capitalism isn't the same as a capitalist state. Conflating a socialist state as a state entirely lacking in private property is also inaccurate, and you may gain a better understanding from Novara Media in the UK, or Second Thought in the US.