UPDATE: I now have from a kind viewer @publicdetective the case of LEIGHTON v BRISTOW AND SUTOR (unreported), in which Mr Leighton did a fantastic job (himself) of proving that D breached of paragraph 26 of the Schedule [in that D failed to provide evidence of their authority in their attempts to enforce the alleged debt]. Near enough precisely what I said in the video at 4:19. What the judgment did NOT do is rule that liability orders are unenforceable. Full video to follow after Christmas!
But this surely means that REAL court documents will be needed with reverse liability accessible to the man or woman at risk of having their property attacked, in that the name of the judge and all relevent records and caselaw available? We all know that tyrant councils have been using fake paperwork by borrowing courtrooms to push unofficial documents at debtors. It';s about time the public made a real stand against all of this utter tyranny.
No, we made that judgement that liability orders are unenforceable on the grounds they don’t exist. Maybe if you took your head out of your egotistical backside, you’d see the bigger picture. But in reality you already know the bigger picture but you have to tow the line for your masters don’t you, and keep being the servant to the oath you took. You’re fine as a so called barrister is coming to an end shensmith and people see you for the fraudster, liar and deceiver that you are.
Thing is, as far as I can see it, you're always going to be on the side of the system in some way, that it is legitimate in the very first place (I'm not referring just to this case, I'm on about the whole system and how it has come about and is being abused by councils and governments) many people just see the system as corrupt from the core. I guess when you have crooks, conmen, psychopaths and corporations pulling the strings and in charge of the system then what can you expect from the system!?
Because it was the enforcement agents that were at the claimants door and this case is brought against them, not the local authority as the local authority was correct in having the liability order but Bristow and Sutor did not have the correct paperwork when they attended to enforce the debt. Great video and clear explanation as usual, was seeing this on Telegram and all the excitement it was causing but a quick read through the facts proved its was a complete misinterpretation, as usual.
The council is not allowed to act as a court!!!!!! But they do, Councils Hire the court and put their own people in the judge is fake and not from the court, It is all a big scam.......they are taking the piss out of you.
@@Jack-fs2im The Councils are obtaining pFraudulent bulk processed liability orders in pFraudulent geographical locations or are carrying out illegal hiring of court room facilities & then actively preventing defendants from obtaining lawful representation. But of course A newer version with more details - Hope this helps with your understanding of reality. Why would anybody not pay council tax based on a YT video exactly? I'm currently engaged in a process involving claiming back all CT paid for the last 45 years with interest. Starts with stating that any future CT payments are only paid due to the existence of the criminal threat of various types of violence & increased theft for anybody not agreeing to any arbitrarily imposed CT charges without a formal agreement in place. Anyway - All councils simply get pFalse / pFraud instruments drafted based on pFraudulent bulk processing of arrears claims where no correct legal due process is executed. Usually in an inapplicable geographical location which is also Council Criminal pFraud. Some people clearly didn't understand the video info. In addition - 80% of council spending comes from central govt funds anyway. All tax / theft is criminal theft. Council tax is a particularly Treasonous / Criminal theft. Tax / theft can be considered as being a non criminal act only if there is some form of explicit agreement in place by an affected individual & the contributions are related to commercial profits & personal income above a certain level. Currently most UK politicians are treasonist criminal pfHARMa pFascist pFraud war Mingering war minger stinky thieving 3rd world plundering pFilth engaged in massive health pFraud, demographics pFraud, climate change pFraud & of course routinely thieving possessions from the recently deceased. Any attempted enforcement involving false instruments also includes the criminal offence of actual assault. You might find that difficult to believe but it is in fact 💯% correct due to the threat of violence from law enforcement (stinky uniformed govt employee paid excrement producing pigs activity) Best regards & Merry Xmas to you & yours.
@@Jack-fs2im No it doesn't. Get a summons to your local Magistrates court regarding Council Tax, then call up that same court, and ask if there are any warrants or summons in your name (don't mention Council Tax) and they will tell you, no, there isn't. So the Court have no record of any case against you, or it would be on their system.
Councils are prducing their own liabiltiy orders without authority to do so... When i questioned the validity of my council tax order and requested a true copy of liabiltly order from my local council they posted out to me a number and nothing else.. I contacted the court who supposedly granted the order and they said there was nothing on their records to indicate any hearing, nor was there a court number, Nothing! Big question, how can council tax be lawful or even enforceable without correct lawful procedures?
Nice post, Councils are playing with you. Time to stop paying Council tax time they want out of business. Plus your money does not go to the Councils it goes to the Govt that supports war
So, basically, a Council who is the claimant (ie: Plaintiff) is able to abuse due process by...... 1) Issuing their own demands, 2) Holding their own fake courts, 3) Issuing their own rulings and judgements without the defendant or his legal representative being present, 4) Issue their own warrants. SUMMARY: The Council are the Judge, Jury and Executioner...... & the Defendant has Zero rights at all, including his Constitutional rights ? Well, this is all very convenient for the transnational corporations and banks that run our government's and Councils via their...... "Public sector Private sector Partnerships" & "Private sector Public sector Initiatives". All our institutions are corrupt and our legal system has been weaponised against us. This crap can't go on forever, somethings gonna snap.
They have got away with this for years. The Magistrates Court know nothing about your Council Tax case, which is easily proved just by calling them. They just hire a room, and behind closed doors issue their own summons and liability orders, and until now, have got away with it.
Ironically the JR refusal in Cardiff was mine - and then 6 months later - Wales abolished jailing people for CT debt. England is now the ONLY country in the whole world - where you can be jailed for a locally obligated tax. I've sent you the Leighton v B&S judgement on email for you.
What is your source for the claim that only England imprisons people for not paying local taxes? Tax evasion is an imprisonable offence pretty much everywhere. Why would local taxes be exempt? The only exception I know is jurisdictions where they foreclose on your house for not paying property tax rather than jailing you. Given that foreclosure sales are usually for far below market value, that's going to hurt a lot more than a few days in jail.
@@rfxtuber What does that have to do with anything? We're talking about council tax, not TV licences. And even if we were talking about TV licences, what label you give them wouldn't matter. They are what they are, regardless of what you call them.
@@rfxtuber What we call things is not important. The name given to it in statute is "license fee", but if you prefer to call it a "tax" or a "levy" or a "subscription fee", you are welcome to. It won't change what it is. And it won't make it any more relevant to this video.
@@thomasdalton1508 I know they don't in the US and our law system is probably the most similar to the UK law around. Well done Wales for abolishing that mess.
I'm fikin sick of other men and women demanding money of me with menaces. We are all equal in the eyes of the law. Blackbelt works for the courts he will obviously agree with the court. Who gave councils, public servants, the right to call themselves authorities??
We are equal under the law, the courts however are not your equal they are your superior and parliament are their superior. Don't like it live on the moon
If a judge/magistrate/justice of the peace etc gives someone authority to enter your premises and take your belongings it seems only fair for that judge/magistrate/justice of the peace to put their name & signature on a document so you can see who they are.Can there be accountability otherwise? If the word of some council employee is good enough for someone to be judged guilty then how long before the word of some police officer is considered good enough for a conviction and trials etc are phased out ? That would also ease the courts administrative burden.
When it comes to he said she said it's already like that. Social services for example does whatever they like with families, I've had them making up straight up lies and everyone believes them, not you. It's only getting worse.
Why should someone writing their name on a piece of paper be 'fairer' than that same person saying something? In both cases the person has considered the matter and given their decision.
For the millions without assets, a mass revolt would punish the government financially. However the tens of millions of homeowners and PAYE workers are over a barrel as the legal enforcement options include deductions from wages, charging orders and forced sale of their house, or even bankruptcy (if over £5,000). The mass revolt would probably just result in higher bills for the people that pay, worsened public services, or both.
@@Liberty_Freedom_Brotherhood - I'm willing to lose my house. After all, to quote Martin Luther King "Injustice anywhere is injustice everywhere." We are all one - as the inventor of PCR, Kary Mullis, evidenced. I'm on year #2 and got some stinking evidence that the courts are complicit.
@@keegan2979 - Napoleonic Law not British Law when did they (unlawfully) transfer it from British Law of 'innocent until proven guilty' to Napoleonic Law of 'Guilty until proven Innocent'
The big question is, why are people allowing a corporation to take their money? The whole legal system is nothing but legal jargon. Focus on equity law and you can get out of their corrupt system of slavery.
@@banned_from_eating_cookies an obligation means that you’ve signed a contract that’s your obligated too , I don’t know about anybody else but I haven’t signed any contract , just like I haven’t with the BBC , plus I’ve wrote to the BBC & told them that I don’t want their business & take back access to my property including sending signals to my private tv in my private home or I’m suing them , I don’t want to listen to the BBC a government propaganda wing , ppl need to wake tf up , take the wrapping off of their brains 🧠 & start using it ffs 🤦♀️
The gate keeper has spoken . Yes the councils near bankruptcy , desperate to keep their particular gravy train going targeting the people who are already having a hard time holding it all together
😢they are bankrupt because they don't collect taxes as they use to ie Water utilities Has Electric car tax they gave them revenue ..now it's fine to private co...shareholders in the main .
Not paid it in about 15 years, they threatened to take my goods, I offered the bailiff the keys to my crappy old van and he didn't take it, left empty handed. They said they could do a charging order, I rent. They threatened to bankrupt me, I said please do, I'd do it myself, but I can't afford the £800 fee. They threatened to send me to prison, I said works for me, I've got more chance of seeing a dentist and a psych in there than I have out have on the out.
@@steve5772 should have asked: do they feed you for free in prison? Is it warm there? Is it like a vacation in prison? I always imagined you can sleep there, watch tv and you do not have to pay for food. When can we go? Hey, come back! I accept your offer, take me to prison, it sounds like a magical place, they will have to take care of me......sir, please!
the main issue with taxation is the misappropriation of public funds and cronyism. Most people don't mind paying a fair tax if it's not wasted. when people actually learn how the financial system works, that the government borrows money into existence from the BoE and sells bonds to pay down the debt and collects tax to pay the interest on the bonds, then they will realise that there's never enough money in the system to pay down government debt. the larger the money supply becomes, the more base inflation goes up.
inflation is falling and govt has stopped selling bonds .Inflation is only holding up because of food prices.I say thats because a million more immigrants has raised food demand
@@Jack-fs2im how they measure inflation hides much of its impact. we are not in a deflationary environment. its disinflation which just means its still on the up but at a slower rate. Inflation is a hidden tax in itself. the government gets to pay back debt to BoE with currency units that are worth less in real terms.
@@christalmeth613For God's sake, what are you, 16? Philosophical economics class 101. Everyone on the planet except thickies understands fiat currency.
I've watched a few of this guys videos - imho he is nothing but a system puppet reading their script for them, he's a very dangerous man full of fear porn to the uninformed. He works for the BARR and not the people - What more needs to be said.
I totally agree with you Lennon. Look at the state of Britain and the West. The whole thing is held in place with just Two things...... 1) 24/7 propaganda from the establishment and its apparatus. 2) Violence and the threat of violence from the Police. LIES & VIOLENCE. The whole stinking system is held in place with these. Any system built on these weak foundations will obviously collapse. Look how the Soviet Union ended.
The council is a corporation acting as a service provider. They are they ones fulfilling the UN sustainable development goals without community consent.
Richard does say that people should do their own research whenever he makes a statement, he is simply telling people to open the minds and use critical thinking. There is nothing wrong with that. We all know deep down there is so much corruption from top down all over the world, and very few people empowerment others to stand up and lift the smokescreen from our eyes and Richard is one of them, like him or hate him, we can all agree to disagree and use our own brain cells, which are shrinking day by day with all the madness going on at once.
99.99% of people are not qualified to do any research, unless you want to spend years or even decades getting the qualifications do what you are told by people who are qualified
Bang on, p.s nothing is enforceable without a court judgement,although even the court judgement is fake without a jury, every single court hearing should have a jury or it's not a proper court hearing, no court hearings have a jury these days so they are false justice, what is more common law over rules legislation hands down, this is fact, the whole system is a scam made by greedy corporates ,if you get sent a letter for court you can return with post reminding them of this, without a jury there is no justice
One thing I know from experience is that the liability order is not registered with the court the council notice claims it is. I had one years ago. I called the court and quoted the order reference and asked if it exists. I asked if there was an order made by the court to my name. They said no. The problem is the council is judge jury and executioner. The may it all up. Not even mentioning that they do not us the money paid to council tax for improvement on local infrastructure or services the way it should be. They rake in millions and millions each year and nothing ever seems to change.
Doesn't it just sound like the road tax system, devised to build and maintain roads but clearly doesn't. So where does all the council tax go if not to look after the locality and services? How can they possibly go bankrupt?
me too , i asked the court and there was no record of any hearing let alone any order, its all council fraud. This git contradicts himself, liability orders were repealed in 2000 and something , there have been no court orders on paper since so no debt collector could possibly show any authority at the door or before or after since then.
@@lsmith992because....... of "Public Private Initiatives" & "Public sector Private sector Partnerships". The theory was that the Private sector could improve Public sector efficiency and return better value for money for the tax payers. The REALITY is...... Transnational corporations and banks have taken over control of All arms of government, including local councils and our Legal system. All our institutions, arms of government, councils, and legal system have been weaponised against us and turned into cash flowing assets to sweated and squeezed for income and profit returns for Shareholders on Wall St and the City of London etc. So, Prime Minister and politicians promise £billions to Councils, NHS, Prisons, Police and various departments etc, they do it in the full knowledge that they're funneling your money to these Private profit motivated Transnational corporations and banks. You see your Taxes going up, You see everything around you getting worse (and certainly the council providing less services), You see Councils going bankrupt, You have to ask yourself, if we're paying more and receiving less, Where's all the extra money we paid gone to ?? Answer: Banks, especially central banks, Blackrock and Vanguard, SERCO and G4S, and many many others.
Council Tax funds paid to local 'council' companies goes directly to central fake government. You can search on line for the sort code where the money is paid to... its a government account. Its then redistributed to local councils for their budget.
The bailiffs serve a notice of a liability order, not the court order itself, therefore it is not enforceable. A notice is not an order. They need to produce the actual court order, which they do not. That is the main point of contention as I see it.
And the exact same thing happens with energy companies when they get their ‘warrant’ to access your property to fit a prepay meter. All smoke and mirrors. It’s devious though as the people carrying out the actions for these corporations don’t understand what they’re really doing. Lots of light being shone in dark little corners lol. What a time to be alive!
Absolutely incorrect. The bailiffs relieved the liability order from the local authority who have received it from the court. Once the bailiff company receives the order, they start enforcement proceedings.
I think the problem is a few councils have started trying to enforce it themselves without a court liability order a few people have found that out when they contacted the courts
They create their own courts and fake documents. And won't sign or name their liability orders or summons? What gives the council the right to invent a tax anyway? We had property tax back in the day. Rates. An they seemed reasonable in comparison.
So let me get this right. The councils are making their own liability orders, with no due process, in a room that as there is no record of process, and this is Legal? Sounds a bit dodgy.
@@BlackBeltBarrister Still illegal, no court can grant jurisdiction to a local authority to issue such a document, what are you not understanding here. Not a single one of these cases is heard on it's own merit, complete abuse of process. The whole thing is orchestrated by the council, no magistrates judge under oath is putting his name to such a document, this is why it's all supposedly verbal! No record of it, no proof any order was ever granted by the court itself. The council tax enforcement and regulations act even states these sums are not adjudged to be paid by order of the court, what a complete farce!!!!
I have ben through the court procedure, had a alleged libility order issued by court. Six months later DSAR'd the ministry of justice. There were NO record of any court case ref council tax or any issue of a liability order issued 🤔
You were misinformed by the magistrates court or asked the wrong question, the chairman of the Bench or District Judge signs two copies of the complaint list one foe the court and one for the council. So somewhere stored at the court there should be a complaint list with your name on it. There is not a separate "case" for each liability order. Ask for a copy of your entry on the complaint list for the hearing where the LO was granted and it should be available.
@@PA1606X The procedure highlighted does seem to imply that there is an order for each person / liable person , it does not appear to be a bulk list procedure as each order request must be assessed on its own merits otherwise it has not been examined by the court :(even if only to in absence of a defence made agree the complaint)
@D-Bunker-zv1bj The more you look into it the clearer it becomes. The reason there is so much doubt is because there's no expansion to so many confidently contradictory conclusions. It would be helpful if you could educate others in how you arrived to that conclusion.
@@simoncollins6529 - so he knows a vast amount more than he pushes - he omits the actual docs and data that makes alot of what he trying to defend is actually unlawful but he omits those details.
Really you just don’t want to pay it and hope everyone else thinks like you. They don’t. Most dults realise someone has to pay for the society we have.
@@annoyingbstard9407thats no true, and you know it. Many would be happy to pay, but seeing the roads get worse every year, as well as pretty much every other public service, most are wondering why and what we're paying for.
exactly. yet they continue to steal and plunder taxpayers money. They are pocketing the finances and creating vip lanes for friends and family. Whatever the decide, these continue to be saboteurs.
@toolzandnewideasHe'll never go against the current law system anyhow, like anyone who's high up within the NHS organisation,... safe and effective remember.😊
No name. No signature on liability orders/ summons? No representation. ( You are legally allowed to represent your case to a court of your peers). There are videos of them being arrested and removed from court. They have no business being in a court. They are not judges. They do not swear an oath. No contract no service. No bill or invoice. Unlawfull in my mind. 😮
I'm starting to question the law as it seems although the council are often found to be corrupt they are never held accountable or see the inside of a cell. This obviously means the law is biased and justice only exists on paper.
I watched the video BBB references and I dont feel it was presented as 100% enforcable, but rather unenforcable without the correct paperwork. The main point is that councils & debt collectors have been shortcutting (abusing?) judicial process and have been caught doing it. Noticably, no mention of the liability for harrassment claims where no valid documents by BBB. Anyway, its Christmas and things are moving slowly. Maybe BBB will get a database update in his stocking and we can expect a u-turn video nect year - I wont hold my breath though.
Imagine most councils in UK are bankrupt.. That is the misappropriation of public funds.. How can we take the law seriously when our "betters" behave in such a manner...
@@Jack-fs2im That not necessarily true. .. We vote for them but they do NOT implement the will of the people. I'm not talking about the B word. We no longer live in a democracy.. Just think of the London ULEZ and how that has been forced on to the people even though it affects the poorest in society the most.. .. When/where do politicians listen to the people......? Voting doesn't make any difference..red or blue.
Enforcement agents do not have the authority to enter onto a persons property for a council tax debt, if so they are breaching Schedule twelve of The Tribunals, Courts and Enforcement Act 2007 It is not that enforcement agents have the incorrect paperwork, it is that they do not have any judicial authorised paperwork. The magistrates liability order is only a statement that a debt is owed. The same as a County Court Judgement is only a judgement a debt is owed, it does not give the authority for an enforcement agent to enter a property. A warrant of control would have to be gained this would then give the enforcement agent the authority under Schedule 12 paragraph 26. Even so an enforcement agent can not force entry for a council tax debt. They can only enter through open or unlocked doors. So for council tax liability orders, the liability order does not give the bailiff authority under Schedule 12 of Tribunals Courts & Enforcement Act 2007. The letter of authority which enforcement agents carry from the council is worthless for the purposes of Schedule 12. His Honour J Harrison unambiguously held it is insufficient as the council letter relates only to Regulation 45 of The Council Tax (Administration and Enforcement) Regulations 1992 and not to Schedule 12 of the Tribunals, Courts & Enforcement Act 2007 SCHEDULE 12 paragraph 66 of The Tribunals, Courts and Enforcement Act 2007 provides the debtor with the remedy in damages. His honour Judge Harrison stated that, in his judgment a householder is entitled to ask the enforcement agent on what authority he is purporting to enter his property, and the fact that he cannot do so, and refers the debtor back effectively to their client, is almost bound to cause him to be dissatisfied. In my judgment the enforcement agents are in breach of paragraph 26 of Schedule 12 of The Tribunals Courts and Enforcement Act 2007.
@@manchegocheese997 he won't do that, when he walks down a public highway with lighting, whenever he needs an ambulance, or whenever he may need the use of a fire service, the police, his dustbins to be emptied, etc, he won't bat an eyelid. Welcome to the world of the selfishness, and attitude of the self privileged.
That guy in the video is the same guy who was interviewing a woman who said your electricity bill was all bought and paid for by taxpayers , and you can take out any meter in your home and put in your own . Sounds perfectly legal to me.
@@fluxington but it's actually TRUE as I've experienced exactly that, the establishment are getting worried people are waking up too the BS, & this BBB is in on this theft
The whole system is built on 24/7 propaganda and violence/threat of violence from the police. There's nothing else holding it up. It's a very weak system and it's end soon just like the old Soviet Union.
Social care for the elderly would stop. Parks would close down. Streets would not be maintained. Your rubbish would pile up ourmtside your home while you moaned that someone somewhere should be paid to remove it. Also, other stuff, but I have stuff to do myself.
I believe and am most likely wrong. .. That in the beginning the council would fight tooth and nail imprisoning as many people as possible.. Before the numbers become uneconomical to process and there are no longer any jail / cells available. .. It might be possible at this time, To negotiate with the now temporarily bankrupt council, on its responsibilities to the public purse. & That they are servants of the people and not the other way round.... .. This one would hope, might humble a few councillors.. .. It kinda worked with the fuel protest of 2000. Although fuel prices have since risen.. The protests showed the government how sensitive fuel taxation is & have been at least wary of being too eager to ramp up fuel taxes as an easy cash cow....
I seem to remember a few weeks back Richard invited you to discus and debate on his channel, if I were you I would take him up on his offer to point out the relevant facts and go through the information he has been given, this I think would be a good way of dispelling misinformation surrounding this subject that seems to consume a lot of time and point people in the wrong direction.
The side that knows parliament and the courts have supremacy over the individual and the only one who is outside laws is the pigeon (which also means they don't have the protection of the law either)@@flyinyamaha
With court orders no longer being written, but given in writing by the person creating the order, this should be a thing that the court issuing the order writes.
I am aware of a case which went to court, the tax payer made their representations, the Magistrate found that there was no liability and dismissed the case, but Bristow and Sutor attempted to enforce it anyway. It could be something like that. The specific facts of this case were that one dwelling had been registered as two separate properties in the council's database, and they were trying to charge council tax for "both" of them.
That case is irrelevant. In the case you describe, a council may indeed have made a paperwork error. People make misakes. But the occupiers of the property would still be liable for council tax. In any event, as BBB says, without a checkable reference, you are just making yet another claim.
@@timg1246 Not splitting hairs just information.Only a court can jail an offender.If people don,t pay council tax the judge orders them to pay and if they don,t the judge sends them to prison for not paying the court and complying with the ruling
@@petermiller1041: I for one am not going to ruin my credit record by refusing to pay council tax. I also quite like having my bins emptied and streets swept that are among the things that the council tax covers.
This is another video from Richard Vobes (appeared on the TH-cam feed) very much along the same lines as the one you referred to. He brings in "Gavin from Sovereign Empowerment" to discuss why CT is unlawful etc. It would be great for you to do a detailed debunk on this one as well because it is obviously misinforming people.
The problem with people like this vobes character is charlatans know there are those who are stupid enough to believe anything, those who resent paying anything as well as those who are desperate enough to believe anything. There’s a Facebook group run by someone similar who sells his book which effectively encourages people to get into debt and not repay it. At the moment he can’t respond to anyone now facing the consequences of his advice because he’s off sailing his yacht. Still they follow him…it’s mind boggling.
liability order do not exsist.. i have just been to court on that and won...LIABILITY ORDERS DO NOT EXSIST....And the court said no Baliffs and council can act as a court....THEY LOST ON PERJURY.?????
Time is running out for the corrupt systems in this country. People are starting to revolt against being taxed to oblivion to pay for NGO's and the economic migrants, and receive no services rendered to themselves. Keep on not paying everyone the Councils are going bankrupt!
When did the local authority become a court making an order and enforcing it, thats not due process and is surely unenforceable if its not issued by the court ?? or am i missing something.
I got this from my council By residing in the UK you agree to abide by the laws and pay taxes as requested by central government, of whichCouncil Tax is one. Does this mean all council taxes go to central government ? And when did I agree ?
If you don't agree to have sex with these 10 men, then you have to leave town. That's the same logic as the council. If you just swap money for sex in their pronouncements you get how they think.
Justices' Clerks are the unsung heroes of our justice system... I hadn't realised what they actually do until I went to a court to observe a trial. Their work is amazing.
Huumm The point still stands. The fact that a proffesional has to rummage around to find 'The Law' is telling. To me it reviels that things are hidden in the 'sub-sections'. Why is it not plain and simple !?!
Rubbish. He already knows the law. But he wanted to check the specifics of the case. Which he was un-able to do because it is in none of the databases.
You sound like you have never studied law before.. every barrister and solicitor has to research laws. There is a tonne of legislation and that is why you have lawyers with expertise in one of many areas.
No they force us at the bottom though I've had to forget Christmas I only have cash to pay for electricity not food because the way they put price's up its getting to the point where ill need to build a fire in my garden just for survival sake it's ridiculous I lost hope years ago..😢😢
Fire in your garden ?? £3000 fine from the council for that. Seriously Bro, Never lose hope, that's what these fekers want. Don't hand them an easy win on a plate. Ramp up the gym, eat right, get strong and get focused. Change is coming
Yea but of course Black Belt "Barrister" is going to back up the system... It's the system that ensures he gets paid... It doesn't take a rocket scientist to see this 😂🤦
@@worldofameiso5491 What's to say I don't already? The system isn't as big and scary as you seem to think... The "system" is supposed to work for the people, which it hasn't done for a very long time... The past few years alone has proven that, and most are at least beginning to see... Only the gullible fools blindly carry on and obey their masters... 🤣😉🤦
Do people not realise that things could and would carry on without the corrupt "system" that we live under?? It's the working class who do all of the work anyway... What do we pay taxes for when it's us lot that keeps things moving?!
Seen the video in question and he Richard Vobes said that you must check the info out for yourselves and he was explaining what he was told and examining the Info
So, that being the case, why did he make the video before he checked the information ? When he has checked the information (fat chance of that in reality), what are the chances of this person, who has a track record of pumping out nonsense, issuing a correction, or taking down the blatantly wrong video ?
I've been seeing videos of folk saying that if you feel that the government are acting unlawfully in crimes against the people via wars and corruption then your obligated to not pay the council tax, with things as they are what should one do?
There are generally three types of thinking on this, depending on who you are. 1. The current system is totally illegitimate, rigged, unfair and as individuals we are sovereign and not bound to them. 2 The current system is fully legitimate, everyone that lives in this country is bound by them from birth and that is fair. 3 Somewhere in between the two. I suspect most people are number 2, people who make a living from this would be number 1 (at least publically) and those who are logical thinking skeptics are number 1. If you're number one then logically you might well be correct, but the important thing here is the notion of "force" and whether logical and fair or not they have the force (of violence where necessary) behind them to make us become bound to their rules. Personally, I think the idea that a few people in fancy dress, many who are questionable at bests, get to make up the rules for millions of people (even those who have not even been born yet) is probably not the best way (maybe it is!) but it is where we are now unfortunately and in all honesty if people want REAL change, to get rid of the corruption (yes, the judiciary is corrupt (so is the state) and justice isn't served equally) and that benefits most of the public, instead of just a few will probably take a civil war.
Are the so called 'liability orders' legal/lawful ? In my dispute, single occupier, charged full CT. I obtained my LO through a FOI request. It bore no relation to the 2 shown in CT regulations. It had no court stamp, just the printed name of a Clark of the court. No signature. The name on the order was a COC. So I wrote to him making the presumption that this was a fraudulent document, giving 60 days to reply with documented evidence. I never received any reply. I repeated this with copies of all documents to the magistrate court bosses in London. The same presumption, the reply I received was patter and never answered the question of legality of the so called LO. I have never paid & will not. I asked for the case to go to court so I could present these unanswered presumptions and evidence that the council had not followed the correct letter order, timing and content. I have never had an answer to this. I get the odd letter 1 or 2 times a year from a debt collector, but that is it. I have not paid any CT for over 8 years now.
Acts and statues went IN THE BIN in 2015 when the baron put them there !! Acts and ststues can ONLY be given the force of law BY the consent of the governed. So where have all 8 billion people on earth given their legal consent to be governed under the acts that you have quoted. This is why we never make claims, we never say anything that we cannot prove. Go to exhibit E in this
First rule of thumb, just because something is on the internet it does not mean it must be true. Second rule of thumb, if something sounds too good to be true then it usually is.
You sound like a coward John. What if it is true John ? What are you gonna do then ? Will you take a stand against the Council ? or just meakly pay it anyway ?
My uncle told me 20 years ago never pay council tax. Neither of us have been to jail. Nothing has ever came of it. Hes touching 60. Considering theres already id imagine millions not paying it i wouldnt worry speaking from experience here.
@@timg1246 So you think you choose the argument that you think he has to make rather than clarify what argument he is using and how is getting away with not paying.
@timg1246 I'm not arguing. I'm 36. I've never paid it. I know people much older never paid it. I've got threatening letters, yes, but never responded. Nothing has ever happened to anyone I know of. So from my experience I would recommend not to pay it as you really don't have to. They can't put us all in jail. And they don't anyway. Go look and see if you can find someone who's done time for not paying.
Lots of people in his channel thanking him profusely for his "great advice" and going to follow it. I commented about your rebuttal and it was removec immediately.
If the council tax liability order is a legitimate court order then why is there no recording of these liability orders in the courts official records?.
Vobes reminds me of the late John Harris. Someone sends him some 'information', he does not check if it is true but immediately repeats it on TH-cam as though it is the truth. Perhaps Vobes can supply a link to the 'landmark' case that has excited him so much?
@@celtictiger1763 No, he provided a link to a newsletter/blog claiming the same as the video he posted. There is no link to a record of the case he refers to. It's not a reliable source.
Absolutely, He publishes this rubbish, but doesn't back it up with any actions. It's just click bait. His bald explorer videos also had much incorrect information in them.
Not a chance in hell and almost certainly unlike most his sheep actually pays income tax too. His sheep are no ones being told they are someone at the profit of this man
But they don't enforce it. They use debt collectors with zero powers. who cannot come into homes. Some people have never paid it. The debts get written off after a certain period.
And you will have a totalitarian fascist state kicking in your woke door turbocharged by your own hijacked critical thinking skills by the close of 2024!!
The thing is that for many years now the council tax enforcement team hold a video interview with the other party and tells them the decision. An example being where I was summoned to the court for arrears in CT after becoming unemployed and before my benefits were sorted out, on arriving at the court I was informed the “hearing” was being done at the local councils customer contact centre. I went there and explained my issues and made an arrangement where they agreed to review the arrears in 28 days time, only to notice that their was a deduction 3 weeks later from my UC, when I did a FOI I discovered the court judgement had been made a week prior and an attachment of earnings order issued against me. I managed to resolve it and the council have agreed to put the money recovered towards next years council tax liability as the council had decided in my favour in the meantime to award CT support.
Sounds to me like they were trying to buy your silence. You've literally just said... 1) You were "summonsed" to "Court", 2) To only be told later that your not going to Court, and in fact it's only a "Hearing". Q: So, Hearings outside of Courts are able to issue court summonses ?? 3) The Judgement against you was issued One week before the Hearing.
@@simoncollins6529 I had written to the council offering a repayment plan but they summoned me to the court, I went to the court and was told there was nothing on the court role by the admin staff who said that the council normally do the proceeding from the council customer centre so I went there and spoke to someone from the collection team who said they would stop any proceedings. When I got my UC payment I noticed it was less than normal and there was a deduction saying “attachment of earning order” so I enquired and DWP informed me it was due to the court order. I did a SAR with DWP and saw the order had been issued on the 11th April but the date for the summons was the 4th April to appear on the 18th April. ((Basically the order was approved by the court a week before the summons said I was due to appear) When I contested it the council backtracked and cancelled the Attachment of Earnings order but the money that had been deducted was then added to the CT for 2024/25 as a payment which was basically 2 months of council tax at this years rate. Personally I believe as BBB says the paperwork is produced by the council this is why the court was unaware of the hearing as it had already been processed as a “batch process” for the month without the court even hearing any defence from anyone and purely based on “testimony” of a council employee with a bias in favour of the council. I honestly believe that nearly every single debt related recovery are processed in bulk as a “rubber stamp exercise” without anyone actually attending the court to testify and the only time the debtor will see the inside of a court room is if they fight against what is now purely an administrative process carried out by a clerk or possibly even run as a batch process automatically via software in HMCTS under direction of a public servant with no training on legal processes. Edited to add. What we now appear to have is a system running inside HMCTS in favour of corporations where the defendant isn’t given a chance to defend themselves until after the initial decision has been made based on the claimants submissions. Basically our justice system when it comes to debt related matters has become “a computer driven system of awarding claims based on a one-sided process” without any form of balanced legal process.
This has been going on for years councils issuing and rubber stanping court orders that have never seen the inside of a court house.and they do not need a wet signature to be acted on. and 5.5 billon in owed as of march 2023.
I currently have a council issued Liability order against me. I have asked twice for the Magistrates court documentation on the matter, on the the 2nd occasion using a FOI request. On both occasions they have nothing to send. So I have no legal documents from a court only ones issued by a council, you tell me do you think with a complete lack of legal documents this process is enforceable?
thanks student dad, however I made 2 requests to magistrates court for my records regarding my liability order, they have no records, so who is the legal arbiter of this case if the only records are held by the council....
This might explain why the Liability orders don’t exist and as per the legislation - section 36 (3) ‘A Liability order...is not to be treated as sum adjudged to be paid by order of the court’.
I do wonder in all of this. If one doesn't accept liability. .. It's like being accused of a crime. Not guilty until proven otherwise. ... If one doesn't accept liability does or would that mean the debt doesn't exist....
You're partially quoting a section out of context. It's 35(3): "The amount in respect of which a liability order is made is enforceable in accordance with this Part; and accordingly for the purposes of any of the provisions of Part III of the Magistrates' Courts Act 1980 (satisfaction and enforcement) it is not to be treated as a sum adjudged to be paid by order of the court." Which means the liability order is enforceable in accordance with this Part (The Council Tax (Administration and Enforcement) Regulations 1992, Part VI) and not enforceable under Part III of the Magistrates' Courts Act 1980.
@@willgoodfellow No, it is not to be treated as a sum adjudged to be paid by order of the court, that is all that you need to take from this, nothing more.
@@jchneo26 Absolutely incorrect as the legislation states "for the purposes of any of the provisions of Part III of the Magistrates' Courts Act 1980 (satisfaction and enforcement) it is not to be treated as a sum adjudged to be paid by order of the court" which is completely different to stating in isolation that it's "not to be treated as a sum adjudged to be paid by order of the court" because it is.
Council tax only pays for a small portion of the councils funding (around 20%) the rest is paid by central government. Of the ct raised around 50% is used to pay their lovely pensions.
@@snowflakemelter1172 thanks for that pearl of wisdom. Not all pay themselves lucrative pensions and golden handshakes while pretending it's going towards "services".
I have always enjoyed your uploads, but I am enjoying them much more recently as I am finding them easier to follow and understand. I think this is because you have slowed down your speech improving the delivery of the information. I hope my comment is taken as a compliment I intended. x
You missed a massive chunk of what Richard said at the start of his video, i think you're wrong on this one, you might want to watch it all and not select certain portions
There definitely seems to be a non-trivial correlation between people who like to pretend the BBB is simply "wrong" and those who cannot put together a simple sentence using correct capitalisation and punctuation. I wonder if there is an underlying reason behind this phenomena?
Hi Steven - I run my own business and have withheld my CT in protest to a rate increase. I currently have a council issued Liability order against me. I have asked twice for the Magistrates court documentation on the matter, on the the 2nd occasion using a FOI request. On both occasions they have nothing to send. So I have no legal documents from a court only ones issued by a council, you tell me, do you think with a complete lack of legal documents this process is enforceable? I'm afraid the councils have messed this up, they wanted a quick way to enforce payment, but have up with a quick but unenforceable process. I have no idea how they get out of this mess and neither do they....
This paragraph may help track down the actual case in question - would be interesting to know the actual legal implications of this, if any.... "This concern was also reflect in the recent case decided on 21stSeptember 2023 in the High Court, KBD Swansea in favour of a Mr Leighton, as reported on social media. He was awarded £4,000 against debt collectors Bristow and Sutor, acting in alliance with City of York Council. A member of the public stated that “His Lordship Harrisson condemned the process of how Council Tax liability orders are obtained and held it is time for reform, concurring with my submission that the process raises issues under Article 6 ECHR. He also questioned their validity, holding that they don’t actually constitute a court order at all”."
😬 It goes on to say "I am Martin of the family Geddes, a man. I am here as the trust beneficiary, by special appearance, and as a lay advisor to the trust." which is Freeman of the Land stuff. I stopped reading at that point.
"Article 6: Right to a fair and public hearing In the determination of his civil rights and obligations or of any criminal charge against him, everyone is entitled to a fair and public hearing within a reasonable time by an independent and impartial tribunal established by law."
@@icouldbewrongicouldberight You do get a hearing at a Magistrates court before the liability order was made. So generally there should be no problem. It may be though that in this specific case, they didn't get proper notice of the hearing.
BBB. The reason why the law enforcement agent was enforcing something he had no legal right to do is.. (wait for it) because verbal orders are not accepted, the order must have the name of the judge who created the liability order on the order as signed proof of who gave the order. This is the whole point, which is what you're not getting.
Absolutely, BBB, why don't you go through all the legislation relating to Council Tax and provide the relevant advice instead of just picking the pieces that supposedly prove your stance? Is it because you know the process of enforcing council tax payment is fraudulant and once you let the cat out of the bag no-one would pay council tax. If this piece of legislation says there must be a signature and a physical document must be provided but then another piece of legislation according to you says that is not needed, which piece of legislation is correct? See my point?
@cheds1 nice work! I do put tax in. Except 18 months when the Iraq war started under Bliar. Our government are shills for corporate power, whichever party gets in.
Additionally, how can a liability order be valid if issued by a non-existent court? For a court's legitimacy, there must be either a contractual agreement, a tort committed, or a crime. On what basis does the council rely to enforce council tax or any tax, and where is this stipulated in law?
There are still some dodgy wordings in CT when dealing with late or non payments. 'Court Fees' is one and being called to court, when it is only a hearing is another. The system does need updating.
@@willgoodfellow so there's no liability order then is there for goodness sake, if nothing is documented and signed by a judge, there is no liability order!!
@@jchneo26 The granting of a liability order is documented, usually a list of cases heard on that date awarded in default, and is signed by a magistrate.
@@willgoodfellow Is it really, because when people contact the magistrates court they hold no record of it, amazing that isn't it? They are not signed by any magistrate acting under oath, and not a single one of these cases is heard on it's own merit, which is unlawful. No council has the authority to generate any document pertaining to a summons or a liability order and send it to you or I, such documents must be signed, sealed and delivered by the proper judicial authority, please understand that what is going on is illegal, so why do you persist on defending their actions?
I did see a video on this, but it is an interesting, novel and fun take on a series of rules, and is it nothing to do with a liability pronouncement, or the fact there there is a liability order, it is one of bailiff collection and specifically seizing of goods. as they need a court order to be able to seize goods, a council tax notification of the order isn't a court order. So the argument seems to be that a bailiff without the authority in hand is breaking their rules if they seize goods using the notification of a court order and not an actual court order. so it's basically that a bailiff can't carry a copy of the pronouncement when seizing goods so the bailiff is breaking the law? rules? if they seize goods without being in possession of an order of the court, as the council tax notice is just that a council tax notice of an order, but it isn't a court order.
The Leighton case is the interesting one. There the bailiffs had to pay damages of £4000. Now I'm pretty certain that they have been acting in the same way on masse. So the PPI lawyers have a new business model. The Bailiffs will just do a phoenix, go bust, come back as a new balliffs with a small delay after they apply for a license. The question there, will the licensing authorities say no? In any case they can't afford to pay. So that leads on to are councils also liable for the actions of their agents?
@@adenwellsmith6908 councils wouldn't liable, because they are only instructing the collection, the duty would solely be on the collecting agency to have the right documentation that they need.
Well if you employ some, you are liable. It's called vicarious liability. So since they are acting as the agent of the council, my view is they are. Plenty of case law on that. @@johng.1703
there is no "Liability Order" :)) show us one for example, just ask for a civil court judgement from your employer or DWP and any attachment stops immediately. and i am not qualified. merry christmas. correct me if i am wrong.
Which Act of Parliament authorizes the council to establish its own court, appoint a representative as a magistrate, and issue liability orders, potentially bypassing due process in an independent and unbiased court? Under which Act of Parliament can a council issue its own liability orders without a contract or consent between the parties involved? Given that liability orders are based on legal presumptions, why should they not be dismissed once these presumptions are successfully challenged?
Either way, a written order is required, whether computer generated or not. I do agree that it does not make it automatically enforceble. However, you would be surprised that many bailiffs dont bother having the necessary paperwork. It makes it at least a minimum requirement is to provide this.
If it hasn’t been signed in ink by a judge it’s not enforceable , I’m claiming every payment back too , fingers crossed 🤞 by the way AI is slowly getting rid of these court room parasites , you can already get copies of prepared statements depending on each case , good luck everybody
Surely BBB can sympathise with people trying to question the destopian way councils use Bailiffs to collect unreasonable council charges and so called fines. A brave barister worthy of trust would be one that went against his paymasters to find those loopholes in law to help the common people, rather than serving the rich and powerful. It would entail having morals and principles and a backbone which establishment puppet lawyers simply don't have, due to choosing a soft life. Talk is cheap, sticking your neck on the line takes bravery which is sadly lacking here, blackbelt in origami?
Its not unenforceable, but it may as well be extortion. We already pay tax and rent generally, then we have to pay for council tax too? Its just pure greed in a system that clearly no longer tries to improve things. I will keep paying tax, but I will always hold the view that the government no longer deserves my taxes. They misspend, line their own pockets and let beautiful areas of our country fall into disrepair, while our cities fall for other reasons. They are a waste of space no matter which political party takes over. Prior to things not getting done, taxation was valuable. Now in the current state of this country, taxation is theft.
Thank you BBB. Mr Vobes is a a curious man who has form on this front and uses it to make a living. He will take a document which in black and white states clearly the point in law or process that he is trying to disprove. He frequently says that this is his opinion only and it is not to be relied upon. I’d agree with him that his opinion can’t be relied upon. Never the less I think he know’s what he’s doing and presents something he cares not to understand to his less articulated brigade of viewers who wish to hear this nonsense. . Kerr-ching…more views, nice work if you can get it. He is regularly misinterpreting, making things up and generally listening to unqualified conspiracy nuts who provide the inspiration for his content. Sadly his commentary is dangerous for less able people who continually struggle with their bills or understanding the world around them. I for one will continue to take the rise out of Mr Vobes since he deserves no respect for the poor quality of misleading content he puts out on a daily basis.
Well said. Vobes is a liar and a hypocrite who is all talk and no action. He never takes his own advice or does what he says he will do, because he knows he is spouting a load of rubbish. All he cares about is maximum views & maximum income from TH-cam. Nothing else matters.
Pity you can't make deductions for councils failure to empty bins, fill in potholes, police the streets rather than tweets, persue "vanity projects" etc etc. Voting them out is pointless because the other lot are just as bad.
UPDATE: I now have from a kind viewer @publicdetective the case of LEIGHTON v BRISTOW AND SUTOR (unreported), in which Mr Leighton did a fantastic job (himself) of proving that D breached of paragraph 26 of
the Schedule [in that D failed to provide evidence of their authority in their attempts to enforce the alleged debt]. Near enough precisely what I said in the video at 4:19.
What the judgment did NOT do is rule that liability orders are unenforceable.
Full video to follow after Christmas!
But this surely means that REAL court documents will be needed with reverse liability accessible to the man or woman at risk of having their property attacked, in that the name of the judge and all relevent records and caselaw available? We all know that tyrant councils have been using fake paperwork by borrowing courtrooms to push unofficial documents at debtors. It';s about time the public made a real stand against all of this utter tyranny.
No, we made that judgement that liability orders are unenforceable on the grounds they don’t exist. Maybe if you took your head out of your egotistical backside, you’d see the bigger picture. But in reality you already know the bigger picture but you have to tow the line for your masters don’t you, and keep being the servant to the oath you took. You’re fine as a so called barrister is coming to an end shensmith and people see you for the fraudster, liar and deceiver that you are.
Thing is, as far as I can see it, you're always going to be on the side of the system in some way, that it is legitimate in the very first place (I'm not referring just to this case, I'm on about the whole system and how it has come about and is being abused by councils and governments) many people just see the system as corrupt from the core. I guess when you have crooks, conmen, psychopaths and corporations pulling the strings and in charge of the system then what can you expect from the system!?
@@anthonyheath7890 In that case, why were the bailiffs taken to court and not the LA?
Because it was the enforcement agents that were at the claimants door and this case is brought against them, not the local authority as the local authority was correct in having the liability order but Bristow and Sutor did not have the correct paperwork when they attended to enforce the debt.
Great video and clear explanation as usual, was seeing this on Telegram and all the excitement it was causing but a quick read through the facts proved its was a complete misinterpretation, as usual.
The council is not allowed to act as a court, neither can any of the staff act as a judge.
The council is not allowed to act as a court!!!!!! But they do, Councils Hire the court and put their own people in the judge is fake and not from the court, It is all a big scam.......they are taking the piss out of you.
Its doesn,t it applies to the court ha
@@Jack-fs2im
The Councils are obtaining pFraudulent bulk processed liability orders in pFraudulent geographical locations or are carrying out illegal hiring of court room facilities & then actively preventing defendants from obtaining lawful representation.
But of course
A newer version with more details -
Hope this helps with your understanding of reality.
Why would anybody not pay council tax based on a YT video exactly?
I'm currently engaged in a process involving claiming back all CT paid for the last 45 years with interest.
Starts with stating that any future CT payments are only paid due to the existence of the criminal threat of various types of violence & increased theft for anybody not agreeing to any arbitrarily imposed CT charges without a formal agreement in place.
Anyway -
All councils simply get pFalse / pFraud instruments drafted based on pFraudulent bulk processing of arrears claims where no correct legal due process is executed.
Usually in an inapplicable geographical location which is also Council Criminal pFraud.
Some people clearly didn't understand the video info.
In addition -
80% of council spending comes from central govt funds anyway.
All tax / theft is criminal theft.
Council tax is a particularly Treasonous / Criminal theft.
Tax / theft can be considered as being a non criminal act only if there is some form of explicit agreement in place by an affected individual & the contributions are related to commercial profits & personal income above a certain level.
Currently most UK politicians are treasonist criminal pfHARMa pFascist pFraud war Mingering war minger stinky thieving 3rd world plundering pFilth engaged in massive health pFraud, demographics pFraud, climate change pFraud & of course routinely thieving possessions from the recently deceased.
Any attempted enforcement involving false instruments also includes the criminal offence of actual assault. You might find that difficult to believe but it is in fact 💯% correct due to the threat of violence from law enforcement (stinky uniformed govt employee paid excrement producing pigs activity)
Best regards & Merry Xmas to you & yours.
But they do
@@Jack-fs2im No it doesn't. Get a summons to your local Magistrates court regarding Council Tax, then call up that same court, and ask if there are any warrants or summons in your name (don't mention Council Tax) and they will tell you, no, there isn't. So the Court have no record of any case against you, or it would be on their system.
Councils are prducing their own liabiltiy orders without authority to do so... When i questioned the validity of my council tax order and requested a true copy of liabiltly order from my local council they posted out to me a number and nothing else.. I contacted the court who supposedly granted the order and they said there was nothing on their records to indicate any hearing, nor was there a court number, Nothing! Big question, how can council tax be lawful or even enforceable without correct lawful procedures?
Exactly
Nice post, Councils are playing with you. Time to stop paying Council tax time they want out of business. Plus your money does not go to the Councils it goes to the Govt that supports war
Exact same thing happened with me, well dodgy.
That's like asking a mafia protection racket why they don't follow due process
@@simoncollins6529 likewise
So, basically, a Council who is the claimant (ie: Plaintiff) is able to abuse due process by......
1) Issuing their own demands,
2) Holding their own fake courts,
3) Issuing their own rulings and judgements without the defendant or his legal representative being present,
4) Issue their own warrants.
SUMMARY:
The Council are the Judge, Jury and Executioner......
& the Defendant has Zero rights at all, including his Constitutional rights ?
Well, this is all very convenient for the transnational corporations and banks that run our government's and Councils via their......
"Public sector Private sector Partnerships"
&
"Private sector Public sector Initiatives".
All our institutions are corrupt and our legal system has been weaponised against us.
This crap can't go on forever, somethings gonna snap.
BBB = System-Puppet - look deeper he is working for his BAR masters and not the people.
Justice must be SEEN to be being done not just by dint of B cubed asserting it to be done but he is entitled to his opinion JUST LIKE ANYONE ELSE.
They have got away with this for years. The Magistrates Court know nothing about your Council Tax case, which is easily proved just by calling them. They just hire a room, and behind closed doors issue their own summons and liability orders, and until now, have got away with it.
Well said@@rfxtuber Well said.
Some very well articulated comments here. I stopped paying CT for almost a year now. Received all the standard bs but just ignore everything.
Ironically the JR refusal in Cardiff was mine - and then 6 months later - Wales abolished jailing people for CT debt. England is now the ONLY country in the whole world - where you can be jailed for a locally obligated tax. I've sent you the Leighton v B&S judgement on email for you.
What is your source for the claim that only England imprisons people for not paying local taxes? Tax evasion is an imprisonable offence pretty much everywhere. Why would local taxes be exempt? The only exception I know is jurisdictions where they foreclose on your house for not paying property tax rather than jailing you. Given that foreclosure sales are usually for far below market value, that's going to hurt a lot more than a few days in jail.
@@rfxtuber What does that have to do with anything? We're talking about council tax, not TV licences. And even if we were talking about TV licences, what label you give them wouldn't matter. They are what they are, regardless of what you call them.
@@rfxtuber What we call things is not important. The name given to it in statute is "license fee", but if you prefer to call it a "tax" or a "levy" or a "subscription fee", you are welcome to. It won't change what it is. And it won't make it any more relevant to this video.
@@thomasdalton1508 That's fine give 'ma PCN lmao
@@thomasdalton1508 I know they don't in the US and our law system is probably the most similar to the UK law around. Well done Wales for abolishing that mess.
I'm fikin sick of other men and women demanding money of me with menaces.
We are all equal in the eyes of the law. Blackbelt works for the courts he will obviously agree with the court.
Who gave councils, public servants, the right to call themselves authorities??
not me!
Good post :) Blackbelt is on the side of the courts and part of the bent system Best bet for people is to do their own homework.
@@robh7671BBB working against the people, for the state, typical scumbag.
They are not authority
We are equal under the law, the courts however are not your equal they are your superior and parliament are their superior. Don't like it live on the moon
If a judge/magistrate/justice of the peace etc gives someone authority to enter your premises and take your belongings it seems only fair for that judge/magistrate/justice of the peace to put their name & signature on a document so you can see who they are.Can there be accountability otherwise?
If the word of some council employee is good enough for someone to be judged guilty then how long before the word of some police officer is considered good enough for a conviction and trials etc are phased out ?
That would also ease the courts administrative burden.
When it comes to he said she said it's already like that. Social services for example does whatever they like with families, I've had them making up straight up lies and everyone believes them, not you. It's only getting worse.
Good point.
Speeding expert nick freeman constantly used improper/incorrectly applied procedures to get his clients of the hook...
Bang on point Keith
@@swaggadash9017 Yeah I know people who have been cheated, frauded and lied about by Social Services.
Why should someone writing their name on a piece of paper be 'fairer' than that same person saying something? In both cases the person has considered the matter and given their decision.
Millions of people not paying tax is definitely unenforceable
Exactly!
For the millions without assets, a mass revolt would punish the government financially.
However the tens of millions of homeowners and PAYE workers are over a barrel as the legal enforcement options include deductions from wages, charging orders and forced sale of their house, or even bankruptcy (if over £5,000).
The mass revolt would probably just result in higher bills for the people that pay, worsened public services, or both.
There maý be a few thousands , who will be in big trouble .
@@Liberty_Freedom_Brotherhood - I'm willing to lose my house. After all, to quote Martin Luther King "Injustice anywhere is injustice everywhere."
We are all one - as the inventor of PCR, Kary Mullis, evidenced.
I'm on year #2 and got some stinking evidence that the courts are complicit.
That’s why they want the digital cash
so the local council have made Court orders Automated , Bypassing the Actual Judge..sounds very illegal to me.. or Atleast VERY UNFAIR Due process.
100% UNLAWFUL - unlawful legislation
guilty until proven innocent
@@keegan2979 - Napoleonic Law not British Law when did they (unlawfully) transfer it from British Law of 'innocent until proven guilty' to Napoleonic Law of 'Guilty until proven Innocent'
The big question is, why are people allowing a corporation to take their money? The whole legal system is nothing but legal jargon. Focus on equity law and you can get out of their corrupt system of slavery.
Appealing to the equitable jurisdiction of the courts is not a magic wand for getting out of an obligation to pay Council Tax
@@banned_from_eating_cookies Under what or whose authority does that "obligation" come? That's the whole point.
@@robertscotton5882 just a guess, but I'd say parliament?
@@banned_from_eating_cookies an obligation means that you’ve signed a contract that’s your obligated too , I don’t know about anybody else but I haven’t signed any contract , just like I haven’t with the BBC , plus I’ve wrote to the BBC & told them that I don’t want their business & take back access to my property including sending signals to my private tv in my private home or I’m suing them , I don’t want to listen to the BBC a government propaganda wing , ppl need to wake tf up , take the wrapping off of their brains 🧠 & start using it ffs 🤦♀️
@@S.Trades
Yes.
The authority to require British residents to pay taxes comes from democratically elected British governments and the laws they pass.
The gate keeper has spoken .
Yes the councils near bankruptcy , desperate to keep their particular gravy train going targeting the people who are already having a hard time holding it all together
Hamishlovesit4731 you're not suggesting baldy locks is a lord shillington the 3rd are you?
😢they are bankrupt because they don't collect taxes as they use to ie Water utilities Has Electric car tax they gave them revenue ..now it's fine to private co...shareholders in the main .
He looks nervous doesnt he! lol BAR cluib members must do as they are told or no credit!
Spot on👍👍👍
with all Banks and shops pulling out of town. council must be losing thousand £s per month!!!
Mass non compliance is needed
Not paid it in about 15 years, they threatened to take my goods, I offered the bailiff the keys to my crappy old van and he didn't take it, left empty handed. They said they could do a charging order, I rent. They threatened to bankrupt me, I said please do, I'd do it myself, but I can't afford the £800 fee. They threatened to send me to prison, I said works for me, I've got more chance of seeing a dentist and a psych in there than I have out have on the out.
@@steve5772 should have asked: do they feed you for free in prison? Is it warm there? Is it like a vacation in prison? I always imagined you can sleep there, watch tv and you do not have to pay for food. When can we go? Hey, come back! I accept your offer, take me to prison, it sounds like a magical place, they will have to take care of me......sir, please!
@@steve5772Brilliant! Good for you. They don't seem to have a sense of humour.
@@steve5772. The mention of a “psych” says more than you realise about you.
@@annoyingbstard9407 Cheers dude, not normal, never have pretended to be. Happy new year
the main issue with taxation is the misappropriation of public funds and cronyism. Most people don't mind paying a fair tax if it's not wasted. when people actually learn how the financial system works, that the government borrows money into existence from the BoE and sells bonds to pay down the debt and collects tax to pay the interest on the bonds, then they will realise that there's never enough money in the system to pay down government debt. the larger the money supply becomes, the more base inflation goes up.
inflation is falling and govt has stopped selling bonds .Inflation is only holding up because of food prices.I say thats because a million more immigrants has raised food demand
@@Jack-fs2im how they measure inflation hides much of its impact. we are not in a deflationary environment. its disinflation which just means its still on the up but at a slower rate. Inflation is a hidden tax in itself. the government gets to pay back debt to BoE with currency units that are worth less in real terms.
@@stuartpaul9211 And the whole population measure it by what they are paying for everything they buy.Every day everyone.Simples
@@stuartpaul9211 Money doesn't even exist, wait until people find that out.
@@christalmeth613For God's sake, what are you, 16? Philosophical economics class 101. Everyone on the planet except thickies understands fiat currency.
Once you lose the fear, then nothing is enforceable!
I've watched a few of this guys videos - imho he is nothing but a system puppet reading their script for them, he's a very dangerous man full of fear porn to the uninformed.
He works for the BARR and not the people - What more needs to be said.
I totally agree with you Lennon.
Look at the state of Britain and the West.
The whole thing is held in place with just Two things......
1) 24/7 propaganda from the establishment and its apparatus.
2) Violence and the threat of violence from the Police.
LIES & VIOLENCE.
The whole stinking system is held in place with these.
Any system built on these weak foundations will obviously collapse.
Look how the Soviet Union ended.
Riiiiight.
Well prison is., big fines , wage deductions , bankruptcy , losing your house...that's what people fear , as it's happens many times .
…apart from attachment of earnings or benefits.
Or bailiffs taking your goods.
The council is a corporation acting as a service provider. They are they ones fulfilling the UN sustainable development goals without community consent.
they ought to be disbanded and the mediocre services nationalised.
Exactly. Why would you help fund your enslavement?
On the money with that one! Great observation!!
Exactly!
You do know corporation is just another word for government
Richard does say that people should do their own research whenever he makes a statement, he is simply telling people to open the minds and use critical thinking. There is nothing wrong with that.
We all know deep down there is so much corruption from top down all over the world, and very few people empowerment others to stand up and lift the smokescreen from our eyes and Richard is one of them, like him or hate him, we can all agree to disagree and use our own brain cells, which are shrinking day by day with all the madness going on at once.
Just click bait.
99.99% of people are not qualified to do any research, unless you want to spend years or even decades getting the qualifications do what you are told by people who are qualified
Bang on, p.s nothing is enforceable without a court judgement,although even the court judgement is fake without a jury, every single court hearing should have a jury or it's not a proper court hearing, no court hearings have a jury these days so they are false justice, what is more common law over rules legislation hands down, this is fact, the whole system is a scam made by greedy corporates ,if you get sent a letter for court you can return with post reminding them of this, without a jury there is no justice
Unfortunately his idea of research is to watch other equally ludicrous TH-cam videos rather than read the actual law.
Fuck the law
One thing I know from experience is that the liability order is not registered with the court the council notice claims it is.
I had one years ago. I called the court and quoted the order reference and asked if it exists. I asked if there was an order made by the court to my name.
They said no.
The problem is the council is judge jury and executioner.
The may it all up.
Not even mentioning that they do not us the money paid to council tax for improvement on local infrastructure or services the way it should be.
They rake in millions and millions each year and nothing ever seems to change.
Doesn't it just sound like the road tax system, devised to build and maintain roads but clearly doesn't.
So where does all the council tax go if not to look after the locality and services? How can they possibly go bankrupt?
me too , i asked the court and there was no record of any hearing let alone any order, its all council fraud. This git contradicts himself, liability orders were repealed in 2000 and something , there have been no court orders on paper since so no debt collector could possibly show any authority at the door or before or after since then.
Thing change, they're obviously getting worse
@@lsmith992because.......
of
"Public Private Initiatives"
&
"Public sector Private sector Partnerships".
The theory was that the Private sector could improve Public sector efficiency and return better value for money for the tax payers.
The REALITY is......
Transnational corporations and banks have taken over control of All arms of government, including local councils and our Legal system.
All our institutions, arms of government, councils, and legal system have been weaponised against us and turned into cash flowing assets to sweated and squeezed for income and profit returns for Shareholders on Wall St and the City of London etc.
So, Prime Minister and politicians promise £billions to Councils, NHS, Prisons, Police and various departments etc, they do it in the full knowledge that they're funneling your money to these Private profit motivated Transnational corporations and banks.
You see your Taxes going up,
You see everything around you getting worse (and certainly the council providing less services),
You see Councils going bankrupt,
You have to ask yourself, if we're paying more and receiving less, Where's all the extra money we paid gone to ??
Answer:
Banks, especially central banks,
Blackrock and Vanguard,
SERCO and G4S,
and many many others.
Council Tax funds paid to local 'council' companies goes directly to central fake government. You can search on line for the sort code where the money is paid to... its a government account. Its then redistributed to local councils for their budget.
The bailiffs serve a notice of a liability order, not the court order itself, therefore it is not enforceable. A notice is not an order. They need to produce the actual court order, which they do not. That is the main point of contention as I see it.
Great information. Thank you
And the exact same thing happens with energy companies when they get their ‘warrant’ to access your property to fit a prepay meter. All smoke and mirrors. It’s devious though as the people carrying out the actions for these corporations don’t understand what they’re really doing. Lots of light being shone in dark little corners lol. What a time to be alive!
And your reason for believing this is?
Absolutely incorrect. The bailiffs relieved the liability order from the local authority who have received it from the court. Once the bailiff company receives the order, they start enforcement proceedings.
@@Facts-over-Feelings. There is no written proof of a liability order.
I think the problem is a few councils have started trying to enforce it themselves without a court liability order a few people have found that out when they contacted the courts
They create their own courts and fake documents. And won't sign or name their liability orders or summons? What gives the council the right to invent a tax anyway? We had property tax back in the day. Rates. An they seemed reasonable in comparison.
So let me get this right. The councils are making their own liability orders, with no due process, in a room that as there is no record of process, and this is Legal? Sounds a bit dodgy.
That’s not what I said. The court verbally makes an order, then the LA produce a notice to that effect. It’s not complicated.
@@BlackBeltBarrister Still illegal, no court can grant jurisdiction to a local authority to issue such a document, what are you not understanding here. Not a single one of these cases is heard on it's own merit, complete abuse of process. The whole thing is orchestrated by the council, no magistrates judge under oath is putting his name to such a document, this is why it's all supposedly verbal! No record of it, no proof any order was ever granted by the court itself. The council tax enforcement and regulations act even states these sums are not adjudged to be paid by order of the court, what a complete farce!!!!
@@BlackBeltBarrister Verbally meaning Hear say?
@@DaveJuddNo. Hearsay is evidence (not a judgment of the court) which is NOT said in oral evidence.
@@jchneo26 BBB works for the BAR not the people - he is no more than a System-Puppet reading their fear porn script for them
I have ben through the court procedure, had a alleged libility order issued by court. Six months later DSAR'd the ministry of justice. There were NO record of any court case ref council tax or any issue of a liability order issued 🤔
You are a liar
Good God astonishing. Problem is Richard V is right over the target!!!
So what happened after that Mr Tailis ?
You were misinformed by the magistrates court or asked the wrong question, the chairman of the Bench or District Judge signs two copies of the complaint list one foe the court and one for the council. So somewhere stored at the court there should be a complaint list with your name on it. There is not a separate "case" for each liability order.
Ask for a copy of your entry on the complaint list for the hearing where the LO was granted and it should be available.
@@PA1606X The procedure highlighted does seem to imply that there is an order for each person / liable person , it does not appear to be a bulk list procedure as each order request must be assessed on its own merits otherwise it has not been examined by the court :(even if only to in absence of a defence made agree the complaint)
If there is so much doubt in the court system, isn't it time to simplify the legal system?
@D-Bunker-zv1bj The more you look into it the clearer it becomes. The reason there is so much doubt is because there's no expansion to so many confidently contradictory conclusions. It would be helpful if you could educate others in how you arrived to that conclusion.
@@rfxtuber
Which means that it's enforceable by law. 🙄
@@rfxtuber ha making up fairy tales are you
@@rfxtuber Good luck with that. Have been reading those arguments for years and the problem remains that you live in a man-made world.
Wrong….because people are phoning up the courts to find out about the liability order which is fake..FAKE?!!!!…
another problem is that you are part of the system
As is System-Pupppet BBB - Barristers work for the BAR and not for the people.
That's not a problem, it's a blessing.
BBB has an insider's perspective.
It's all education
@@simoncollins6529 - so he knows a vast amount more than he pushes - he omits the actual docs and data that makes alot of what he trying to defend is actually unlawful but he omits those details.
@@simoncollins6529 that's your opinion as you said insider he's apart of the problem
That's not a problem? Jesus Christ God help us all!!!!
I have a dream, everyone just said NO.
Yes at the next election..stop voting red or blue...
Or this nonsense will just continue...
Really you just don’t want to pay it and hope everyone else thinks like you. They don’t. Most dults realise someone has to pay for the society we have.
@@annoyingbstard9407 .
@@annoyingbstard9407thats no true, and you know it.
Many would be happy to pay, but seeing the roads get worse every year, as well as pretty much every other public service, most are wondering why and what we're paying for.
Yep, the system exists to bleed us dry, so one thing is for sure: There's no way they wouldn't make it pretty watertight.
exactly. yet they continue to steal and plunder taxpayers money. They are pocketing the finances and creating vip lanes for friends and family. Whatever the decide, these continue to be saboteurs.
The system exist to genocide the inhabitants of Britain
Judgement, drive.google.com/file/d/1XfpIYhSJVNor4MvPkdLQNyeMWpjCD_Dz/view?usp=drivesdk
@toolzandnewideasHe'll never go against the current law system anyhow, like anyone who's high up within the NHS organisation,... safe and effective remember.😊
No name. No signature on liability orders/ summons? No representation. ( You are legally allowed to represent your case to a court of your peers). There are videos of them being arrested and removed from court. They have no business being in a court. They are not judges. They do not swear an oath. No contract no service. No bill or invoice. Unlawfull in my mind. 😮
So basically what you’re saying is, the only way we get justice is by physical action and insurrection against an unfair state?
Freedom may need to be won, officers of a corrupt government may need to be dispatched with prejudice @D-Bunker-zv1bj
I'm ready.🗡️⚔️🛡️💀⚰️🪦
@@stuartd9741 I'm in!
BBB has it wrong he is staying it's a county court matter,it was a magistrates court matter, no CCJ
@@ThePatto56 BBB can't be wrong, he is a barrister!!! lmao
I'm starting to question the law as it seems although the council are often found to be corrupt they are never held accountable or see the inside of a cell. This obviously means the law is biased and justice only exists on paper.
Remember he's part of the system so he's bound to say things like this
Be good boy's and girl..don't question things even if it's corrupt
@@timgstar3585
And that's precisely what this TH-camr is doing telling you not to question even when as you say it's corrupt
@@daviddukes9392 even the Buddha said question everything !
If any of this C.T. nonsense were true don't youvthink it would be on TV?!
@@normanpearson8753 no lol literally no not until more and more people stood up to this bs
I watched the video BBB references and I dont feel it was presented as 100% enforcable, but rather unenforcable without the correct paperwork.
The main point is that councils & debt collectors have been shortcutting (abusing?) judicial process and have been caught doing it.
Noticably, no mention of the liability for harrassment claims where no valid documents by BBB.
Anyway, its Christmas and things are moving slowly. Maybe BBB will get a database update in his stocking and we can expect a u-turn video nect year - I wont hold my breath though.
drive.google.com/file/d/1XfpIYhSJVNor4MvPkdLQNyeMWpjCD_Dz/view?usp=drivesdk
BBB = System-Puppet reading their script.
Councils can put up council tax to the maximum that they are allowed to, and they do it amounts to legal mugging
Imagine most councils in UK are bankrupt..
That is the misappropriation of public funds..
How can we take the law seriously when our "betters" behave in such a manner...
@@stuartd9741 we get the politicians we deserve,we voted for them,
So how would you empty yr bins,pay for police,schools,fire brigade.roads etc Go on tells us pleeeaaasssee pleeeeaaasse
@@Jack-fs2im
That not necessarily true.
..
We vote for them but they do NOT implement the will of the people.
I'm not talking about the B word.
We no longer live in a democracy..
Just think of the London ULEZ and how that has been forced on to the people even though it affects the poorest in society the most..
..
When/where do politicians listen to the people......?
Voting doesn't make any difference..red or blue.
@@stuartd9741 Then vote Reform,stand yrself,go out and canvass for others.OR carry on the same,
Enforcement agents do not have the authority to enter onto a persons property for a council tax debt, if so they are breaching Schedule twelve of The Tribunals, Courts and Enforcement Act 2007
It is not that enforcement agents have the incorrect paperwork, it is that they do not have any judicial authorised paperwork.
The magistrates liability order is only a statement that a debt is owed. The same as a County Court Judgement is only a judgement a debt is owed, it does not give the authority for an enforcement agent to enter a property. A warrant of control would have to be gained this would then give the enforcement agent the authority under Schedule 12 paragraph 26. Even so an enforcement agent can not force entry for a council tax debt. They can only enter through open or unlocked doors.
So for council tax liability orders, the liability order does not give the bailiff authority under Schedule 12 of Tribunals Courts & Enforcement Act 2007.
The letter of authority which enforcement agents carry from the council is worthless for the purposes of Schedule 12. His Honour J Harrison unambiguously held it is insufficient as the council letter relates only to Regulation 45 of The Council Tax (Administration and Enforcement) Regulations 1992 and not to Schedule 12 of the Tribunals, Courts & Enforcement Act 2007
SCHEDULE 12 paragraph 66 of The Tribunals, Courts and Enforcement Act 2007 provides the debtor with the remedy in damages.
His honour Judge Harrison stated that, in his judgment a householder is entitled to ask the enforcement agent on what authority he is purporting to enter his property, and the fact that he cannot do so, and refers the debtor back effectively to their client, is almost bound to cause him to be dissatisfied.
In my judgment the enforcement agents are in breach of paragraph 26 of Schedule 12 of The Tribunals Courts and Enforcement Act 2007.
Where do I get a copy of my contract with the council where I agreed to pay then 'x' amount for services provided?
If you don't want the services, don't use them.
@@manchegocheese997 he won't do that, when he walks down a public highway with lighting, whenever he needs an ambulance, or whenever he may need the use of a fire service, the police, his dustbins to be emptied, etc, he won't bat an eyelid. Welcome to the world of the selfishness, and attitude of the self privileged.
Please tell me how I cancel bin collection, street lighting, road sweeping etc oh wise one.
You use them , they charge,,,,seems OK to me , and 99.3% of U.K.
You need to research contract law. Then you might understand my point.
That guy in the video is the same guy who was interviewing a woman who said your electricity bill was all bought and paid for by taxpayers , and you can take out any meter in your home and put in your own .
Sounds perfectly legal to me.
And he believes all that 'legal fiction' nonsense (the basis of sovereign citizenship).
Do pay attention to things that are said.
@fluxington its fact that these freemen drive about without a drivers license they clearly know something.
@@richardturpin3665They know they will film the police stop for internet clout.
@@fluxington but it's actually TRUE as I've experienced exactly that, the establishment are getting worried people are waking up too the BS, & this BBB is in on this theft
All authority comes through force & threat of violence.
If you can muster enough force & control it you will have the authority.
The whole system is built on 24/7 propaganda and violence/threat of violence from the police.
There's nothing else holding it up.
It's a very weak system and it's end soon just like the old Soviet Union.
Are you certain?
Earl of Orkney V Vinfra (1606)
If Everyone stopped paying 'Council Tax' what would happen ?
They would give up trying to collect it
Big cuts in education social services etc
Social care for the elderly would stop.
Parks would close down.
Streets would not be maintained.
Your rubbish would pile up ourmtside your home while you moaned that someone somewhere should be paid to remove it.
Also, other stuff, but I have stuff to do myself.
At least we wouldn’t be paying any money to the met police, which as we can see practice two tier policing.
I believe and am most likely wrong.
..
That in the beginning the council would fight tooth and nail imprisoning as many people as possible..
Before the numbers become uneconomical to process and there are no longer any jail / cells available.
..
It might be possible at this time,
To negotiate with the now temporarily bankrupt council, on its responsibilities to the public purse. & That they are servants of the people and not the other way round....
..
This one would hope, might humble a few councillors..
..
It kinda worked with the fuel protest of 2000.
Although fuel prices have since risen..
The protests showed the government how sensitive fuel taxation is & have been at least wary of being too eager to ramp up fuel taxes as an easy cash cow....
I seem to remember a few weeks back Richard invited you to discus and debate on his channel, if I were you I would take him up on his offer to point out the relevant facts and go through the information he has been given, this I think would be a good way of dispelling misinformation surrounding this subject that seems to consume a lot of time and point people in the wrong direction.
What an excellent statement and I agree 💯 with you, why doesn't BB debate Richard if he believes RIchard is wrong?
It would be playing chess with a pigeon, its just gone to shit all over the board and is utterly pointless
@@jons9721
Quite the contrary.
@@jons9721Which side do you consider the pigeon?
The side that knows parliament and the courts have supremacy over the individual and the only one who is outside laws is the pigeon (which also means they don't have the protection of the law either)@@flyinyamaha
With court orders no longer being written, but given in writing by the person creating the order, this should be a thing that the court issuing the order writes.
*Bristow and Suitor* are a very well known devious company. And I would question everything they do.
P.S. I have experience with them.
I am aware of a case which went to court, the tax payer made their representations, the Magistrate found that there was no liability and dismissed the case, but Bristow and Sutor attempted to enforce it anyway.
It could be something like that.
The specific facts of this case were that one dwelling had been registered as two separate properties in the council's database, and they were trying to charge council tax for "both" of them.
That case is irrelevant. In the case you describe, a council may indeed have made a paperwork error. People make misakes. But the occupiers of the property would still be liable for council tax.
In any event, as BBB says, without a checkable reference, you are just making yet another claim.
@@timg1246 Yes, for one set of council tax, not two. One set had been paid, so that wasn't in dispute.
@@timg1246Its the courts that send you to jail not councils
@@Jack-fs2im If you must try to split hairs, please do so in reference to something that was actually said.
@@timg1246 Not splitting hairs just information.Only a court can jail an offender.If people don,t pay council tax the judge orders them to pay and if they don,t the judge sends them to prison for not paying the court and complying with the ruling
Can you show us the total number of people jailed for non payment of council tax ?
Up to end of 2017 over 700
@@jamesjoyce-j1la year or since the beginning of time? Cost of council tax vs cost to imprison someone? Mass non-compliance will break the system.
@@petermiller1041think about it.
If they council puts you in goal.
You get free board and lodgings..
Of course no freedom..
@@petermiller1041: I for one am not going to ruin my credit record by refusing to pay council tax. I also quite like having my bins emptied and streets swept that are among the things that the council tax covers.
@@jamesjoyce-j1l False it's zero.
Unless your a high ranking freemason, or sovereign like the so called King
This is another video from Richard Vobes (appeared on the TH-cam feed) very much along the same lines as the one you referred to. He brings in "Gavin from Sovereign Empowerment" to discuss why CT is unlawful etc. It would be great for you to do a detailed debunk on this one as well because it is obviously misinforming people.
The problem with people like this vobes character is charlatans know there are those who are stupid enough to believe anything, those who resent paying anything as well as those who are desperate enough to believe anything. There’s a Facebook group run by someone similar who sells his book which effectively encourages people to get into debt and not repay it. At the moment he can’t respond to anyone now facing the consequences of his advice because he’s off sailing his yacht. Still they follow him…it’s mind boggling.
liability order do not exsist.. i have just been to court on that and won...LIABILITY ORDERS DO NOT EXSIST....And the court said no Baliffs and council can act as a court....THEY LOST ON PERJURY.?????
If you can find an order in the court register you'd be lucky.Councils only hire a room pretending to be acting as magistrate
Time is running out for the corrupt systems in this country. People are starting to revolt against being taxed to oblivion to pay for NGO's and the economic migrants, and receive no services rendered to themselves. Keep on not paying everyone the Councils are going bankrupt!
When did the local authority become a court making an order and enforcing it, thats not due process and is surely unenforceable if its not issued by the court ?? or am i missing something.
This happened years ago they just rubber stamp the paper work and if you don’t pay they just send in the bailiffs
I got this from my council By residing in the UK you agree to abide by the laws and pay taxes as requested by central government, of whichCouncil Tax is one. Does this mean all council taxes go to central government ? And when did I agree ?
not sure you need to agree
No part of Council Tax goes to central government whatever any particular TH-cam charlatan may have to say to the contrary.
You didn't and they lie.
You are correct and you didn't.
If you don't agree to have sex with these 10 men, then you have to leave town. That's the same logic as the council. If you just swap money for sex in their pronouncements you get how they think.
Justices' Clerks are the unsung heroes of our justice system... I hadn't realised what they actually do until I went to a court to observe a trial. Their work is amazing.
Huumm
The point still stands.
The fact that a proffesional has to rummage around to find 'The Law' is telling.
To me it reviels that things are hidden in the 'sub-sections'.
Why is it not plain and simple !?!
The law is corrupt BB should know this
Rubbish.
He already knows the law. But he wanted to check the specifics of the case. Which he was un-able to do because it is in none of the databases.
It is plain and simple. It’s not BB’s fault people can’t read properly.
You sound like you have never studied law before.. every barrister and solicitor has to research laws. There is a tonne of legislation and that is why you have lawyers with expertise in one of many areas.
The law is plain and simple, the thing he can’t find is what Richard is citing
No they force us at the bottom though I've had to forget Christmas I only have cash to pay for electricity not food because the way they put price's up its getting to the point where ill need to build a fire in my garden just for survival sake it's ridiculous I lost hope years ago..😢😢
Fire in your garden ??
£3000 fine from the council for that.
Seriously Bro, Never lose hope, that's what these fekers want.
Don't hand them an easy win on a plate.
Ramp up the gym, eat right, get strong and get focused.
Change is coming
Yea but of course Black Belt "Barrister" is going to back up the system... It's the system that ensures he gets paid... It doesn't take a rocket scientist to see this 😂🤦
Okay, go against the system then...see where that gets you.
Yeh, it's his contract. Keep his licence.
@@worldofameiso5491 What's to say I don't already? The system isn't as big and scary as you seem to think... The "system" is supposed to work for the people, which it hasn't done for a very long time... The past few years alone has proven that, and most are at least beginning to see... Only the gullible fools blindly carry on and obey their masters... 🤣😉🤦
Do people not realise that things could and would carry on without the corrupt "system" that we live under?? It's the working class who do all of the work anyway... What do we pay taxes for when it's us lot that keeps things moving?!
Why did you put the word 'barrister' in speech marks ?
Do you seriously doubt he holds that title ?
Seen the video in question and he Richard Vobes said that you must check the info out for yourselves and he was explaining what he was told and examining the Info
So, that being the case, why did he make the video before he checked the information ?
When he has checked the information (fat chance of that in reality), what are the chances of this person, who has a track record of pumping out nonsense, issuing a correction, or taking down the blatantly wrong video ?
Why doesn't Vobes himself check the information sent to him by his viewers? Because he's lazy and can't be bothered.
@@robjames1963click bait.
Is it a legal requirement for a corporation ie. Council's to provide an invoice for services supplied before demanding payment for alleged services?
I've been seeing videos of folk saying that if you feel that the government are acting unlawfully in crimes against the people via wars and corruption then your obligated to not pay the council tax, with things as they are what should one do?
I like vobes he is a man with heart but haven't been able to watch him for ages now because of things like this.
How can you like someone who spreads lies and misinformation which can get his viewers into a lot of trouble?
@@robjames1963 He's basically jumped on the conspiracy bandwagon, preying on the vulnerable for profit.
Well said you two
@@robjames1963 happy Christmas Rob dear boy
...And the rest of the SovCit nonsense he spouts....didyou believe those videos , too?!!
There are generally three types of thinking on this, depending on who you are. 1. The current system is totally illegitimate, rigged, unfair and as individuals we are sovereign and not bound to them. 2 The current system is fully legitimate, everyone that lives in this country is bound by them from birth and that is fair. 3 Somewhere in between the two. I suspect most people are number 2, people who make a living from this would be number 1 (at least publically) and those who are logical thinking skeptics are number 1. If you're number one then logically you might well be correct, but the important thing here is the notion of "force" and whether logical and fair or not they have the force (of violence where necessary) behind them to make us become bound to their rules. Personally, I think the idea that a few people in fancy dress, many who are questionable at bests, get to make up the rules for millions of people (even those who have not even been born yet) is probably not the best way (maybe it is!) but it is where we are now unfortunately and in all honesty if people want REAL change, to get rid of the corruption (yes, the judiciary is corrupt (so is the state) and justice isn't served equally) and that benefits most of the public, instead of just a few will probably take a civil war.
No. 2 .
Hear! Hear! BTW I'm in no 1 group 😂😂
Now the civil war bit sounds good!
Are the so called 'liability orders' legal/lawful ? In my dispute, single occupier, charged full CT. I obtained my LO through a FOI request. It bore no relation to the 2 shown in CT regulations. It had no court stamp, just the printed name of a Clark of the court. No signature. The name on the order was a COC. So I wrote to him making the presumption that this was a fraudulent document, giving 60 days to reply with documented evidence. I never received any reply. I repeated this with copies of all documents to the magistrate court bosses in London. The same presumption, the reply I received was patter and never answered the question of legality of the so called LO. I have never paid & will not. I asked for the case to go to court so I could present these unanswered presumptions and evidence that the council had not followed the correct letter order, timing and content. I have never had an answer to this. I get the odd letter 1 or 2 times a year from a debt collector, but that is it. I have not paid any CT for over 8 years now.
Acts and statues went IN THE BIN in 2015 when the baron put them there !! Acts and ststues can ONLY be given the force of law BY the consent of the governed. So where have all 8 billion people on earth given their legal consent to be governed under the acts that you have quoted. This is why we never make claims, we never say anything that we cannot prove.
Go to exhibit E in this
I'll ask again here, Is the council a registered business opposed to being a government department???
First rule of thumb, just because something is on the internet it does not mean it must be true. Second rule of thumb, if something sounds too good to be true then it usually is.
Just because the powers that be try and inforce things doesn't mean you have to play along.
Like the COVID jabs...
3rd rule of thumb.
Don't believe everything you read or hear in the media...
Rule number 3 - ma.,sons are destroying their and our way of life and they don't even seem to know it .......
You sound like a coward John.
What if it is true John ?
What are you gonna do then ?
Will you take a stand against the Council ?
or just meakly pay it anyway ?
My uncle told me 20 years ago never pay council tax. Neither of us have been to jail. Nothing has ever came of it. Hes touching 60. Considering theres already id imagine millions not paying it i wouldnt worry speaking from experience here.
then you are as stupid as him
There is indeed a clause that the mentally impaired do not have to pay.
If you want to argue with that, please stump up some evidence.
@@timg1246 So you think you choose the argument that you think he has to make rather than clarify what argument he is using and how is getting away with not paying.
@@christalmeth613 @richardturpin3665 is just a liar
@timg1246 I'm not arguing. I'm 36. I've never paid it. I know people much older never paid it. I've got threatening letters, yes, but never responded. Nothing has ever happened to anyone I know of. So from my experience I would recommend not to pay it as you really don't have to. They can't put us all in jail. And they don't anyway. Go look and see if you can find someone who's done time for not paying.
Lots of people in his channel thanking him profusely for his "great advice" and going to follow it. I commented about your rebuttal and it was removec immediately.
if you phone the court up and ask them of the case they do not have any case so this is a fraud . are you working for the courts ?
If the council tax liability order is a legitimate court order then why is there no recording of these liability orders in the courts official records?.
Vobes reminds me of the late John Harris. Someone sends him some 'information', he does not check if it is true but immediately repeats it on TH-cam as though it is the truth.
Perhaps Vobes can supply a link to the 'landmark' case that has excited him so much?
He gave the links. Check under his video
@@celtictiger1763 No, he provided a link to a newsletter/blog claiming the same as the video he posted. There is no link to a record of the case he refers to. It's not a reliable source.
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Does anyone think Vobes does not pay his council tax, and gets free electricity ?
Absolutely, He publishes this rubbish, but doesn't back it up with any actions. It's just click bait. His bald explorer videos also had much incorrect information in them.
@@duviworthing I've seen the light
Not a chance in hell and almost certainly unlike most his sheep actually pays income tax too. His sheep are no ones being told they are someone at the profit of this man
"justice" is not a magistrates and vice versa
But they don't enforce it.
They use debt collectors with zero powers. who cannot come into homes.
Some people have never paid it. The debts get written off after a certain period.
Council tax enforcement regulates state the LO is not to be treated as an order of the court?
I’m afraid Richard Vobes fell down the sovereign citizen rabbit hole some time ago.
And you will have a totalitarian fascist state kicking in your woke door turbocharged by your own hijacked critical thinking skills by the close of 2024!!
The thing is that for many years now the council tax enforcement team hold a video interview with the other party and tells them the decision. An example being where I was summoned to the court for arrears in CT after becoming unemployed and before my benefits were sorted out, on arriving at the court I was informed the “hearing” was being done at the local councils customer contact centre. I went there and explained my issues and made an arrangement where they agreed to review the arrears in 28 days time, only to notice that their was a deduction 3 weeks later from my UC, when I did a FOI I discovered the court judgement had been made a week prior and an attachment of earnings order issued against me. I managed to resolve it and the council have agreed to put the money recovered towards next years council tax liability as the council had decided in my favour in the meantime to award CT support.
Sounds to me like they were trying to buy your silence.
You've literally just said...
1) You were "summonsed" to "Court",
2) To only be told later that your not going to Court, and in fact it's only a "Hearing".
Q: So, Hearings outside of Courts are able to issue court summonses ??
3) The Judgement against you was issued One week before the Hearing.
@@simoncollins6529 I had written to the council offering a repayment plan but they summoned me to the court, I went to the court and was told there was nothing on the court role by the admin staff who said that the council normally do the proceeding from the council customer centre so I went there and spoke to someone from the collection team who said they would stop any proceedings. When I got my UC payment I noticed it was less than normal and there was a deduction saying “attachment of earning order” so I enquired and DWP informed me it was due to the court order. I did a SAR with DWP and saw the order had been issued on the 11th April but the date for the summons was the 4th April to appear on the 18th April. ((Basically the order was approved by the court a week before the summons said I was due to appear)
When I contested it the council backtracked and cancelled the Attachment of Earnings order but the money that had been deducted was then added to the CT for 2024/25 as a payment which was basically 2 months of council tax at this years rate. Personally I believe as BBB says the paperwork is produced by the council this is why the court was unaware of the hearing as it had already been processed as a “batch process” for the month without the court even hearing any defence from anyone and purely based on “testimony” of a council employee with a bias in favour of the council. I honestly believe that nearly every single debt related recovery are processed in bulk as a “rubber stamp exercise” without anyone actually attending the court to testify and the only time the debtor will see the inside of a court room is if they fight against what is now purely an administrative process carried out by a clerk or possibly even run as a batch process automatically via software in HMCTS under direction of a public servant with no training on legal processes.
Edited to add.
What we now appear to have is a system running inside HMCTS in favour of corporations where the defendant isn’t given a chance to defend themselves until after the initial decision has been made based on the claimants submissions. Basically our justice system when it comes to debt related matters has become “a computer driven system of awarding claims based on a one-sided process” without any form of balanced legal process.
This has been going on for years councils issuing and rubber stanping court orders that have never seen the inside of a court house.and they do not need a wet signature to be acted on. and 5.5 billon in owed as of march 2023.
So what happens to a Liability order for a set amount when that amount has been paid ??
I currently have a council issued Liability order against me. I have asked twice for the Magistrates court documentation on the matter, on the the 2nd occasion using a FOI request. On both occasions they have nothing to send. So I have no legal documents from a court only ones issued by a council, you tell me do you think with a complete lack of legal documents this process is enforceable?
Yes, the court order has been made. It really is not ideal as the list signed by the magistrate remains the only document.
thanks student dad, however I made 2 requests to magistrates court for my records regarding my liability order, they have no records, so who is the legal arbiter of this case if the only records are held by the council....
This might explain why the Liability orders don’t exist and as per the legislation - section 36 (3)
‘A Liability order...is not to be treated as sum adjudged to be paid by order of the court’.
I do wonder in all of this.
If one doesn't accept liability.
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It's like being accused of a crime.
Not guilty until proven otherwise.
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If one doesn't accept liability does or would that mean the debt doesn't exist....
You're partially quoting a section out of context. It's 35(3):
"The amount in respect of which a liability order is made is enforceable in accordance with this Part; and accordingly for the purposes of any of the provisions of Part III of the Magistrates' Courts Act 1980 (satisfaction and enforcement) it is not to be treated as a sum adjudged to be paid by order of the court."
Which means the liability order is enforceable in accordance with this Part (The Council Tax (Administration and Enforcement) Regulations 1992, Part VI) and not enforceable under Part III of the Magistrates' Courts Act 1980.
@@willgoodfellow No, it is not to be treated as a sum adjudged to be paid by order of the court, that is all that you need to take from this, nothing more.
@@jchneo26 Absolutely incorrect as the legislation states "for the purposes of any of the provisions of Part III of the Magistrates' Courts Act 1980 (satisfaction and enforcement) it is not to be treated as a sum adjudged to be paid by order of the court" which is completely different to stating in isolation that it's "not to be treated as a sum adjudged to be paid by order of the court" because it is.
@@willgoodfellow Well it's not is it you fool, it can't be enforced via the magistrates court, and you've literally just explained that yourself!
Council tax only pays for a small portion of the councils funding (around 20%) the rest is paid by central government. Of the ct raised around 50% is used to pay their lovely pensions.
Every organisation has to pay its staff.
@@snowflakemelter1172 thanks for that pearl of wisdom. Not all pay themselves lucrative pensions and golden handshakes while pretending it's going towards "services".
@@bobmerrilees4092 you dont have any clue what council employees have or are getting , you just made it up.
People are trying to find any way not to pay any form of tax but still expect ALL services to remain intact
You just made that up, you have no proof of the claim they don't want to pay tax and still expect the services.
@@christalmeth613you sound like a child
@@sameoldrecord Well you would know with that childish comment. Sounds like you have no proof and I am right.
I think what people want is for money not to be wasted
@@christalmeth613 of course ‘you’ are right - people like ‘you’ are always right. There …better now ?
I have always enjoyed your uploads, but I am enjoying them much more recently as I am finding them easier to follow and understand. I think this is because you have slowed down your speech improving the delivery of the information. I hope my comment is taken as a compliment I intended. x
I know it's not quite the same, but you can change the playback speed of the video if you want to eg. x 0.75 if you want.
You missed a massive chunk of what Richard said at the start of his video, i think you're wrong on this one, you might want to watch it all and not select certain portions
There definitely seems to be a non-trivial correlation between people who like to pretend the BBB is simply "wrong" and those who cannot put together a simple sentence using correct capitalisation and punctuation.
I wonder if there is an underlying reason behind this phenomena?
Hi Steven - I run my own business and have withheld my CT in protest to a rate increase. I currently have a council issued Liability order against me. I have asked twice for the Magistrates court documentation on the matter, on the the 2nd occasion using a FOI request. On both occasions they have nothing to send. So I have no legal documents from a court only ones issued by a council, you tell me, do you think with a complete lack of legal documents this process is enforceable? I'm afraid the councils have messed this up, they wanted a quick way to enforce payment, but have up with a quick but unenforceable process. I have no idea how they get out of this mess and neither do they....
@@paulallen5321 Cool story. 👍
Councils are occasionally incompetent? Revelation.
@@paulallen5321 - I think that this is the entire point here. Councils have fucked up royally and don't know how to sort it out.
This paragraph may help track down the actual case in question - would be interesting to know the actual legal implications of this, if any.... "This concern was also reflect in the recent case decided on 21stSeptember 2023 in the High Court, KBD Swansea in favour of a Mr Leighton, as reported on social media. He was awarded £4,000 against debt collectors Bristow and Sutor, acting in alliance with City of York Council. A member of the public stated that “His Lordship Harrisson condemned the process of how Council Tax liability orders are obtained and held it is time for reform, concurring with my submission that the process raises issues under Article 6 ECHR. He also questioned their validity, holding that they don’t actually constitute a court order at all”."
You make a fantastic point sir. A point I see people are conveniently ignoring, but still just as valid a point.
So that's about liability orders, which is just an early stage - an effort to obtain payment/goods from those not identified as vulnerable?
😬 It goes on to say "I am Martin of the family Geddes, a man. I am here as the trust beneficiary, by special appearance, and as a lay advisor to the trust." which is Freeman of the Land stuff. I stopped reading at that point.
"Article 6: Right to a fair and public hearing
In the determination of his civil rights and obligations or of any criminal charge against him, everyone is entitled to a fair and public hearing within a reasonable time by an independent and impartial tribunal established by law."
@@icouldbewrongicouldberight You do get a hearing at a Magistrates court before the liability order was made. So generally there should be no problem. It may be though that in this specific case, they didn't get proper notice of the hearing.
BBB. The reason why the law enforcement agent was enforcing something he had no legal right to do is.. (wait for it) because verbal orders are not accepted, the order must have the name of the judge who created the liability order on the order as signed proof of who gave the order. This is the whole point, which is what you're not getting.
Absolutely, BBB, why don't you go through all the legislation relating to Council Tax and provide the relevant advice instead of just picking the pieces that supposedly prove your stance? Is it because you know the process of enforcing council tax payment is fraudulant and once you let the cat out of the bag no-one would pay council tax. If this piece of legislation says there must be a signature and a physical document must be provided but then another piece of legislation according to you says that is not needed, which piece of legislation is correct? See my point?
Which legislation states that a liability order has to be signed by a judge?
Ive worked since the tax was introduced. Ive never paid it and i never will...what they gonna do put me in a £2000 a week cell?
I’ll see you there. Never paid income tax neither lol.
......Sure you have a roof over your head...?!
@cheds1 nice work! I do put tax in. Except 18 months when the Iraq war started under Bliar. Our government are shills for corporate power, whichever party gets in.
@normanpearson8753 yes. It does take a bit of creativity and the right motivation to find a workaround.
All these ,"I've never paid "comics are just that .Comics .
Additionally, how can a liability order be valid if issued by a non-existent court? For a court's legitimacy, there must be either a contractual agreement, a tort committed, or a crime. On what basis does the council rely to enforce council tax or any tax, and where is this stipulated in law?
There are still some dodgy wordings in CT when dealing with late or non payments. 'Court Fees' is one and being called to court, when it is only a hearing is another. The system does need updating.
The whole system is unlawful legislation.
@@cloudbasenirvana Why is it unlawful?
So why are they still sending out liability orders when the courts abolished them in 2003
Great Que👍
The paper form of liability orders was scrapped, not liability orders.
@@willgoodfellow so there's no liability order then is there for goodness sake, if nothing is documented and signed by a judge, there is no liability order!!
@@jchneo26 The granting of a liability order is documented, usually a list of cases heard on that date awarded in default, and is signed by a magistrate.
@@willgoodfellow Is it really, because when people contact the magistrates court they hold no record of it, amazing that isn't it? They are not signed by any magistrate acting under oath, and not a single one of these cases is heard on it's own merit, which is unlawful. No council has the authority to generate any document pertaining to a summons or a liability order and send it to you or I, such documents must be signed, sealed and delivered by the proper judicial authority, please understand that what is going on is illegal, so why do you persist on defending their actions?
I did see a video on this, but it is an interesting, novel and fun take on a series of rules, and is it nothing to do with a liability pronouncement, or the fact there there is a liability order, it is one of bailiff collection and specifically seizing of goods. as they need a court order to be able to seize goods, a council tax notification of the order isn't a court order.
So the argument seems to be that a bailiff without the authority in hand is breaking their rules if they seize goods using the notification of a court order and not an actual court order.
so it's basically that a bailiff can't carry a copy of the pronouncement when seizing goods so the bailiff is breaking the law? rules? if they seize goods without being in possession of an order of the court, as the council tax notice is just that a council tax notice of an order, but it isn't a court order.
The Leighton case is the interesting one. There the bailiffs had to pay damages of £4000. Now I'm pretty certain that they have been acting in the same way on masse. So the PPI lawyers have a new business model. The Bailiffs will just do a phoenix, go bust, come back as a new balliffs with a small delay after they apply for a license. The question there, will the licensing authorities say no? In any case they can't afford to pay. So that leads on to are councils also liable for the actions of their agents?
@@adenwellsmith6908 councils wouldn't liable, because they are only instructing the collection, the duty would solely be on the collecting agency to have the right documentation that they need.
Well if you employ some, you are liable. It's called vicarious liability.
So since they are acting as the agent of the council, my view is they are.
Plenty of case law on that.
@@johng.1703
there is no "Liability Order" :)) show us one for example, just ask for a civil court judgement from your employer or DWP and any attachment stops immediately. and i am not qualified. merry christmas. correct me if i am wrong.
Which Act of Parliament authorizes the council to establish its own court, appoint a representative as a magistrate, and issue liability orders, potentially bypassing due process in an independent and unbiased court? Under which Act of Parliament can a council issue its own liability orders without a contract or consent between the parties involved? Given that liability orders are based on legal presumptions, why should they not be dismissed once these presumptions are successfully challenged?
Either way, a written order is required, whether computer generated or not. I do agree that it does not make it automatically enforceble. However, you would be surprised that many bailiffs dont bother having the necessary paperwork. It makes it at least a minimum requirement is to provide this.
Six thousand people not paying CT in Portsmouth. Money best spent elsewhere.
If it hasn’t been signed in ink by a judge it’s not enforceable , I’m claiming every payment back too , fingers crossed 🤞 by the way AI is slowly getting rid of these court room parasites , you can already get copies of prepared statements depending on each case , good luck everybody
Good luck man 🤞 more people will follow
@D-Bunker-zv1bj 😂 look who’s highlighted his altered ego post 😂 gate keeper
Wet signatures! This isn't 1990, these things are on I Pads today
Surely BBB can sympathise with people trying to question the destopian way councils use Bailiffs to collect unreasonable council charges and so called fines.
A brave barister worthy of trust would be one that went against his paymasters to find those loopholes in law to help the common people, rather than serving the rich and powerful. It would entail having morals and principles and a backbone which establishment puppet lawyers simply don't have, due to choosing a soft life.
Talk is cheap, sticking your neck on the line takes bravery which is sadly lacking here, blackbelt in origami?
Surely he has missed the point. These are not courts just council officers and played JPS. Not in a magistrates court.
the law is what i say it is...without recourse to the law......how about getting on our side for once...........
BBB is a Barrister - System-Puppet working for the BAR and not for the people. Reading the fear porn script - he seems to like omitting so very much.
Its not unenforceable, but it may as well be extortion. We already pay tax and rent generally, then we have to pay for council tax too? Its just pure greed in a system that clearly no longer tries to improve things. I will keep paying tax, but I will always hold the view that the government no longer deserves my taxes. They misspend, line their own pockets and let beautiful areas of our country fall into disrepair, while our cities fall for other reasons. They are a waste of space no matter which political party takes over.
Prior to things not getting done, taxation was valuable. Now in the current state of this country, taxation is theft.
Thank you BBB. Mr Vobes is a a curious man who has form on this front and uses it to make a living. He will take a document which in black and white states clearly the point in law or process that he is trying to disprove. He frequently says that this is his opinion only and it is not to be relied upon. I’d agree with him that his opinion can’t be relied upon. Never the less I think he know’s what he’s doing and presents something he cares not to understand to his less articulated brigade of viewers who wish to hear this nonsense. . Kerr-ching…more views, nice work if you can get it. He is regularly misinterpreting, making things up and generally listening to unqualified conspiracy nuts who provide the inspiration for his content. Sadly his commentary is dangerous for less able people who continually struggle with their bills or understanding the world around them. I for one will continue to take the rise out of Mr Vobes since he deserves no respect for the poor quality of misleading content he puts out on a daily basis.
Quite. All he cares about is maximising his TH-cam advertising revenue share selling his room temperature IQ subscriber base
Well said. Vobes is a liar and a hypocrite who is all talk and no action. He never takes his own advice or does what he says he will do, because he knows he is spouting a load of rubbish. All he cares about is maximum views & maximum income from TH-cam. Nothing else matters.
Dumb people who can't understand the actual law will always gravitate to someone pushing childish pseudo law they can understand.
Pity you can't make deductions for councils failure to empty bins, fill in potholes, police the streets rather than tweets, persue "vanity projects" etc etc. Voting them out is pointless because the other lot are just as bad.
And what is the official document? The court don't keep one.