1x F-15ex costs around $29,000 per hour to operate When multiplied by 19 for the entire squadron you’re looking at $550,000 per hour not including support aircraft or other vehicles needed. The individual flight cost is STILL about 1/3rd less than the F-35’s hourly flight costs which range around $40,000 per.
Is that why the federal government is handing them to the state? They pay the upfront airframe cost but don't have the burden of the maintenance/operating costs?
@@grahamfloyd3451 probably, but it's probably because the Portland Air National Guard already uses legacy F-15C/Ds, so upgrading to EXs is only logical
As a local av-geek who wants to join the Air Force, this is cool to watch. I really love planes and this plane has amazing technology. I thank all members of the 142nd and 173rd Fighter Wing for the their service 🫡✈️🎖️
The National Guard are lucky I certainly didn't expect them to get the first iterations of the new aircraft. The F15-EX is the best aircraft Boeing has built for a while and is extremely fast and capable with all the updates integrated seamlessly. I am sure smiles will be present at every delivery. 😎🇦🇺👍
@@grahamfloyd3451 and they’re in the business of getting details correct. Errors at the front of a story call into question the accuracy of the rest of the piece.
Why does Oregon Air National Guard need F-15EXs with update cockpits, engines, avionics, radar, & electronic countermeasures? Russia has plans to invade Portland???
@@tringuyen7519 The 142nd Wing based in Portland is the air defense unit for the entire Pacific Northwest. There are similar units throughout the country. The F-15Cs they have had for the last 30 years are no longer relevant to be deployed overseas, as well as proving difficult to even keep flying due to age. And Russia has and does fly bomber aircraft off the coast of Oregon.
Glad to see new Air Frames for Air Defense. In most cases the F-15 will be the best platform for defending the Air Space. The F-35 is great but the F-15 will be better for Air Sovereignty Alert or running down Cessnas, Pipers and the occasional DH-8.
No, "Oregon Air National Guard." If you're going to nitpick, nitpick correctly. 🙂 The "Oregon Nation Guard" flew OV-1 Mohawks out of Salem (McNary Field). Pretty important detail. 😉
@@Roman_4x5 The name of the UNIT is the "142 Wing of the Oregon Air National Guard." The name of the BASE is the "Portland Air National Guard." Drive over there and look at the damn sign yourself. 🤣
@@phillipzx3754”Oregon National Guard” refers to the entire Oregon military department encompassing both air and land components. Don’t try and correct people when you can’t even do it right.
Can't get rid of fighter jets, last time people thought dogfighting was a thing of the past was the reason why US pilots were at a disadvantage during Vietnam.
It's Really Great, living near the Portland Airbase at PDX. With any luck, the new jets' higher performance, comes with an increase in sound levels! I love the thunderous sound of the engines during takeoffs. It really makes my day when they practice 'Touch and Go" exercises, with 30 or 40 landing/takeoffs before Noon! You don't know what you're missing!
After 40 touch and goes there, they come down to Eugene and do another 30 there! I used to live under the flight path for Mahlon Sweet field in Eugene. It could get noisy but practice keeps these guys and gals in top form to protect us if the crap hits the fan. 🇺🇸
@@phil562 Its the portland way make your bed then Bioatch about it not being comfertable, move by airport complain, vote for open drug use the complain, its the portland way to do something yourself the blame others.
@@EnlistedBombin I can tell that the anger and hostility that you practice so often, is just your way of hiding that you feel so depressed about not being appreciated by the people who meet you. ---> You are angered by people who never seem to recognize how really great you are. You are upset because you think that they just don't treat you with the respect and admiration that you believe you deserve. ---> You keep up the front of not being concerned about anything they do, but each time you hope that perhaps, THIS TIME, someone will notice just how wonderful you really are. ---> You have been at it so long that it has never occurred to you, that maybe your facade of anger and hostility, is the only part of you that people see! ---> They are ACTUALLY treating you as you so richly deserve. They Mock you because you made them loathe and disdain the way you treat people. Your self-image is only off by 180 degrees, and everyone except YOU knows it!
I did see that bad boy leave the other morning. I live on Lambert's runway paths. Stealth is good to attack an enemy's ground or to be able to sneak up on a bogie but our AWACS have been updated too and once a bogie fires they are a target and like the reporter said, the F-15 goes Mach 2.5 with dope maneuverability.. Not so much everyone else! lol
@@PoolsideData You wouldn't believe the changes happening here. If I described the behavior I've seen in just the last week that i've never seen before. Dangerous, sociopathic, unempathetic, selfish, etc. Things I've never seen before. Things so over-the-top I don't think it could ever be held in check without a threat of violence, because far too many don't care about the peaceful quality of our culture.
Fighters carry bombs, missiles targeting pods and extra fuel. That all adds drag and the more that is put on the more drag there is. The F-15 has the potential to outperform the F-16 with a standard load out.
This is one bad bird. This is awesome to hear. Being just to the south of Portland I can honestly say this makes me feel slightly better about our ability to defend against the bombing run attempts soon to be made by China/Russia when ww3 "officially" kicks off. Lol i wish i was kidding but, Im not sure I am.
No idea. My understanding up to just a couple months ago is that Klamath falls national guard base was actually going to get them first, I think we won some form of a lottery though plus the fact that our newest airframe is literally 40 years old. I think it was a really good decision to put them in Portland, with us being the nearest Contiguous US Base to Russia and China
@@aaronstreeval3910 If the Su-30SM2 is carrying an R-37M or R-77M it definitely has a chance to merge. The F-15 EX isn’t stealthy & has a good size RCS just like the Su-30.
Portland is a city and does not have a national guard. States have national guard units. Oregon is the state that Portland is located in, hence even though the airfield is located in Portland it is in fact part of the Oregon Air National Guard. Someone who claims to give news to people should be able to get simple facts straight. News agencies should really endeavor to hire competent employees.
"Mr. President, we keep sending all our best weapons around the World yet, Oregon has nothing " Pres "What? ..give em a couple 52yr old, uh..F15. Jim Eagle... uh, well... I should probably stop talking jehbgdhdh"..... "Uh.. okay Sir?... can we at least redo the seats?..." Pres "C'mon Man!!"....
What a drunken bot thing to say. Oregon has had a squadron of F-15 for decades. Their job is to patrol between Canada and California. What idiot thinks the president makes decisions like this? What moron thinks it's smart to use the best new planes in a rear guard capacity?
sad to see these go to such a liberal pro-crime state. They would NEVER step up to protect their own citizens. How can we expect them to protect an attack on the country. such a complete waste of money.
This is why there is such a big push on autonomous fighter jets, no need for expensive systems to keep the human alive and it will bring down the cost tremendously, no need for cockpit, ejection systems, etc. Also, the jets will be able to much high higher G's. If anything the pilots will be used as glorified drone operators.
Relic or not, many rival air forces have been trying to catch up, and none have shown any success. There's been so much demand for the F-15, it's been in constant production since 1976 because the USA's allies kept placing orders.
@@dion8962 Take a penny, leave a penny. Besides, lived in Coeur d'Alene. I'll talk all the s**t about the notsees there I want, and there's nothing you can do about it, Gomer.
I love legacy media.. They call the F-15 the tennis court because it’s that big It’s NOT a great dogfighter by any real standards Can it hold its own? Yeah, but when Russian and Chinese mainline fighters have super maneuverability it’s probably going to die in a dogfight given all things equal in terms of training and preparedness It’s NOT more expensive than the F-35 and if it is it’s only because the government canceled a number of F-35s in favor of the F-15EX which the AF said they didn’t want before the guy that’s probably going to see the inside of a hospice pretty soon took office It’s not a bad fighter.. It’s just an old fighter that’s more or less obsolete with newer tech and better range and carrying capacity They’re already saying they need to get rid of the F-22 so it’s really not a good thing to be buying more of it’s predecessor but in a large scale air war it does have the ability to carry a lot more missiles than anything in the sky so that’s important for beyond visual range fighting where most fighting takes place and the F-15 does have an amazing radar I’m sure those guys are extremely glad to be getting it but it probably would be better in most cases if they were getting F-35s It’s just leaps and bounds ahead of everything else in the sky There’s always an argument for 4th gen fighters honestly because you just don’t need your expensive to maintain 5th gen fighters running bombing runs after the third or fourth day when the enemies air defenses have been suppressed and that’s really what a plane like this is good for in modern air war. The best case scenario would likely be that they are mixing the F-15 with F-35s because on an intercept you keep your stealth fighters out of sight which creates ambiguity for a potential threat If they have no situational awareness they can’t fight you with any hope of winning so basically fourth gen fighters become like pawns while the stealth fighters stalk the enemy unseen They’re less likely to see the stealth fighters if they have to focus on a visible threat which gives them a cloak to work behind
The homeless problem is a state thing and city government thing that they refuse to fix. But also the number one reason people go homeless is because most of the choose to. Not all but most.
@@RW-zn8vy Sure, 40,000 homeless vets while the US spends $800 billion a year on the military. But, hey, they like living in tents. It reminds they of the good old days when they were fighting for this country.
lol, funny how everyone who whines about where taxpayer dollars go is someone who either doesn't have a job to pay taxes with or is afraid his tax shelters will be discovered and burned.
@@kevint1911I’ll agree with you on Palestinians.. but Ukraine is a different story. For less than 1% of our defense budget we got 500,000 Russian casualties and not one flag draped coffin coming back the other way. Most of the military aid stays here in the US and some military equipment is surplus and unused anyway. Don’t feed into the bleach drinking MAGA narrative
@@bigvaxmeanie925 the f15 is a great platform, I wasn’t hating on it. I am hating on the fact it’s news that they release a new version of a 50+ year old airplane with equipment upgrades.
@@JoshHookerJoshhook123 1. Stealth isn't necessary for this aircraft. We already have the F22, B2 and the F35 for those missions. 2. Fighter Aircraft don't fly with armor. It's not a tank. 3. It's the fastest fighter jet in our inventory. It's designed to intercept other aircraft.
1x F-15ex costs around $29,000 per hour to operate
When multiplied by 19 for the entire squadron you’re looking at $550,000 per hour not including support aircraft or other vehicles needed.
The individual flight cost is STILL about 1/3rd less than the F-35’s hourly flight costs which range around $40,000 per.
Is that why the federal government is handing them to the state? They pay the upfront airframe cost but don't have the burden of the maintenance/operating costs?
@@grahamfloyd3451 probably, but it's probably because the Portland Air National Guard already uses legacy F-15C/Ds, so upgrading to EXs is only logical
29k is more than my student loan debt. So why does everyone keep saying we cant afford it?
@@boejiden7093bahaha
@@boejiden7093because the cost and tax comparison is comparable
i like how all these jet fighters/pilots and aircrafts .. they all have their own squadron, groups squads... definitely super cool
Im spoiled living close to Edwards AFB and Plant 42, seeing all the cool stuff flying!
I’ve seen AC130 do a loop out there. And B52 flight a bit too low shoot my van.
I live right next to China Lake Navy weapons Center❤
@@joshhopkins3131 I was just out that way a month ago, that profile pic of mine is at Star Wars Canyon watching jets!
but does it have an aux port???
It doesn’t even have Apple CarPlay 💀💀💀
lol waste of money! How hard is it to get Apple CarPlay or install a freakin aux port 😂
Has anyone ever gotten head in a fighter jet?
@@candyapu3you mean Apple Jet play?
now they can retake the city
I'm sure the Chinookan people will be happy to have it back
@@yacobz they aint getting it back
Well the feeble Biden did imply the other day F-15s can be used to suppress civilians!
Your antiquated tribe who made arbitrary claims on land lost to a superior force and you aint getting it back. Law of the jungle, cant go around it
@yacobz they have to stop drinking mouthwash first
Thank you for your service. Enjoy the new jets!
Explains the sonic booms that woke me up at 10am this morning. I rarely hear those
Would not have been flying fast enough for a sonic boom.
They don’t allow them to fly Mach 1 at low altitudes or near populated areas
Ah, so they fly low, but at a slower speed. Makes sense, usually hitting mach 1 requires using the after burner, which is pretty fuel inefficient.
@@DavidMishchenkoyes. Sonic booms are loud, but the jets are loud enough on their own.
WHAAAAT? 😂
As a local av-geek who wants to join the Air Force, this is cool to watch. I really love planes and this plane has amazing technology. I thank all members of the 142nd and 173rd Fighter Wing for the their service 🫡✈️🎖️
Oof, callsign is Wiggles? You have my sympathy sir lol
It is a callsign that strikes fear to those who dare intrude on our airspace. 😂
😂
F-15C air show was amazing back when the USAF still flying them. Never seen a F-15 do a show like that ever again even with the E model.
This was a really good, and well produced new story. So far the best information I found on the EX and its capabilities. Nice to hear from the pilots.
f-15 my favorite model. So beautiful.
Awesome jet. 👍🇺🇸
The National Guard are lucky I certainly didn't expect them to get the first iterations of the new aircraft. The F15-EX is the best aircraft Boeing has built for a while and is extremely fast and capable with all the updates integrated seamlessly.
I am sure smiles will be present at every delivery.
😎🇦🇺👍
Awesome aircraft!
Beastly
It’s the Oregon Air National Guard, not Portland, pretty basic detail
Sure, but if they merely added the word "Base" to each utterance they would be correct. So quit being pedantic.
@@grahamfloyd3451 and they’re in the business of getting details correct. Errors at the front of a story call into question the accuracy of the rest of the piece.
Why does Oregon Air National Guard need F-15EXs with update cockpits, engines, avionics, radar, & electronic countermeasures? Russia has plans to invade Portland???
@@tringuyen7519 The 142nd Wing based in Portland is the air defense unit for the entire Pacific Northwest. There are similar units throughout the country. The F-15Cs they have had for the last 30 years are no longer relevant to be deployed overseas, as well as proving difficult to even keep flying due to age. And Russia has and does fly bomber aircraft off the coast of Oregon.
still a liberal state that can NEVER be counted on to protect the US in the case of an attack from the west ...
Are they available on Amazon?
Yea by air mail
This is great. This new ex is really going to be able to expand on air defense.
For an enemy that never existed
I just wanna know how he the call sign "Wiggles" 😂
It looks like a play on his last name. Knife on the other hand...
Lol wigleton had to be runner up
Glad to see new Air Frames for Air Defense. In most cases the F-15 will be the best platform for defending the Air Space. The F-35 is great but the F-15 will be better for Air Sovereignty Alert or running down Cessnas, Pipers and the occasional DH-8.
They also shoot down very high flying balloons, AND spy satellites that are still in outer space.
Always safe & successful flights ! 🇺🇸🫡
*OUR FIGHTERS ARE AWESOME* *CATER*
why send such great gear to a liberal state? Such a disgraceful place
@@PoolsideData yes i agree that its liberal but oregon is still a great state for jets. also we're getting new f15s not f22s
Portland National Guard?
No, Oregon National Guard. Pretty important detail.
No, "Oregon Air National Guard." If you're going to nitpick, nitpick correctly. 🙂 The "Oregon Nation Guard" flew OV-1 Mohawks out of Salem (McNary Field).
Pretty important detail. 😉
@@phillipzx3754 It is not nitpicking. Cities don't have National Guard.
It is just highlighting competency of journalism...
@@Roman_4x5 The name of the UNIT is the "142 Wing of the Oregon Air National Guard."
The name of the BASE is the "Portland Air National Guard."
Drive over there and look at the damn sign yourself. 🤣
@@Roman_4x5but I'm trying to correct that, he got it wrong too. 😊
@@phillipzx3754”Oregon National Guard” refers to the entire Oregon military department encompassing both air and land components. Don’t try and correct people when you can’t even do it right.
I've always thought fighter jets were cool, but when is the last time any pilot was actually In a dogfight?
2017 Over Syria, its not people don't try they usually do not have a chance with like Gen3 fighter VS a Gen 5
Hopefully never again
This isn’t a dogfighting jet.
the EX is a highly advanced missile boat
Can't get rid of fighter jets, last time people thought dogfighting was a thing of the past was the reason why US pilots were at a disadvantage during Vietnam.
Would you intercepted me, ill intercepted me
A man of culture I see
intercept. not intercepted.
You know its dope when its a 2 seater with one pilots specific job just to do the weaponry 😂 yah its a missle boat
Portland ANG?
Yes, it’s the ANG wing that patrols the entire PNW. The stolen Q-400 in 2018 was intercepted by them.
Hahaha, right! Civilian reporters aren’t known to be accurate with the military.
all liberals so crap in, crap out
It's Really Great, living near the Portland Airbase at PDX. With any luck, the new jets' higher performance, comes with an increase in sound levels! I love the thunderous sound of the engines during takeoffs. It really makes my day when they practice 'Touch and Go" exercises, with 30 or 40 landing/takeoffs before Noon! You don't know what you're missing!
It was happening before you moved in. Get over it, move, or keep crying over your choices.
After 40 touch and goes there, they come down to Eugene and do another 30 there! I used to live under the flight path for Mahlon Sweet field in Eugene. It could get noisy but practice keeps these guys and gals in top form to protect us if the crap hits the fan. 🇺🇸
@@phil562 Its the portland way make your bed then Bioatch about it not being comfertable, move by airport complain, vote for open drug use the complain, its the portland way to do something yourself the blame others.
@@EnlistedBombin I can tell that the anger and hostility that you practice so often, is just your way of hiding that you feel so depressed about not being appreciated by the people who meet you.
---> You are angered by people who never seem to recognize how really great you are. You are upset because you think that they just don't treat you with the respect and admiration that you believe you deserve.
---> You keep up the front of not being concerned about anything they do, but each time you hope that perhaps, THIS TIME, someone will notice just how wonderful you really are.
---> You have been at it so long that it has never occurred to you, that maybe your facade of anger and hostility, is the only part of you that people see!
---> They are ACTUALLY treating you as you so richly deserve. They Mock you because you made them loathe and disdain the way you treat people. Your self-image is only off by 180 degrees, and everyone except YOU knows it!
A great defensive weapon.
Yes, it does that too.
Excellent!
Cupholders? How many?
sadly none, they were too expensive, and of course, you'd have to take off your oxygen mask to take a sip.
The Air Force uses the ANG to supplement the active duty force!
most morons dont know that the national guard and reserves deploy more than active duty. civilians are never experts on anything in the military
Wow, nice!
HEY!!! These Eagle IIs got no CFTs!!! They must be BLAST to ride!!! GREAT!!!
They install them later, after the acceptance inspection.
I love the 'RedHawks! Rock on with extreme power. (Que AC/DC)
Why would they send them to a guard base instead of an active base?
Because the Air Guard and the Air Force Reserve have been integrated into the active duty AirForce mission since the 1970s.
Sana all from Philippines
I did see that bad boy leave the other morning. I live on Lambert's runway paths.
Stealth is good to attack an enemy's ground or to be able to sneak up on a bogie but our AWACS have been updated too and once a bogie fires they are a target and like the reporter said, the F-15 goes Mach 2.5 with dope maneuverability.. Not so much everyone else! lol
nothing has maneuverability at mach 2
I’ve never heard of the Portland air National Guard. I have on the other hand heard of the Washington air National Guard.
Portland is in Oregon. Are you having trouble with geography?
So... is it Portland or Oregon?
Keep it up no Slack!
Wait, is this REALLY more agile than an F-16? Dogfights?
Surprisingly, F-15s are more agile at supersonic speeds than F-16s are at subsonic speeds.
great gear going to a crappy, liberal state. sad.
@@PoolsideData You wouldn't believe the changes happening here. If I described the behavior I've seen in just the last week that i've never seen before. Dangerous, sociopathic, unempathetic, selfish, etc. Things I've never seen before. Things so over-the-top I don't think it could ever be held in check without a threat of violence, because far too many don't care about the peaceful quality of our culture.
No. The F-16 has a higher turn rate than the F-15.
Fighters carry bombs, missiles targeting pods and extra fuel. That all adds drag and the more that is put on the more drag there is. The F-15 has the potential to outperform the F-16 with a standard load out.
Had no idea the Mayor had his own air force, too
Tina's gonna be maaaaad
Love my Portland. So sorry its gone to...
Portland is doing just fine
@@LunaticTheCat
From a liberal point of view?
downtown portland is saved!
Needed for air defense. Air National Guard must be ready to fight enemy forces.😮😮
Serious question, what would air defense fighters use bombs and air-to-ground capabilities for?
From a potential invasion...
This is one bad bird. This is awesome to hear. Being just to the south of Portland I can honestly say this makes me feel slightly better about our ability to defend against the bombing run attempts soon to be made by China/Russia when ww3 "officially" kicks off. Lol i wish i was kidding but, Im not sure I am.
Imagine having your name on the side of that beast
How did we become the first to get it?
No idea. My understanding up to just a couple months ago is that Klamath falls national guard base was actually going to get them first, I think we won some form of a lottery though plus the fact that our newest airframe is literally 40 years old. I think it was a really good decision to put them in Portland, with us being the nearest Contiguous US Base to Russia and China
@@PyrotechnicMailmanKlamath will be getting F-35s soon. Probably why Portland got these instead.
The 144th FW @ Fresno will get some soon.
Awesome!!!
Wow
Nice!
Can this jet defend against UFOs
“Dominates in dogfights” 😂😂
K/d ratio still 104:0
F-35 is the same damn price
Yep and better. But the f15ex is perfect for home defense.
Oregon Air National Guard*
There is no Portland National Guard
GOOD!!
ครับ
🙏🏾✌🏾🐜
❤❤🎉
Thats not smoking a su 30 in 1 circle.
It won’t get the chance to merge 😁
@@aaronstreeval3910 If the Su-30SM2 is carrying an R-37M or R-77M it definitely has a chance to merge. The F-15 EX isn’t stealthy & has a good size RCS just like the Su-30.
DO YOU KNOW WHAT CUTTING EDGE MEANS? THAT IS WORST FIGHTER IN THE ENTIRE WORLD. IT HAS A RADAR CROSS SECTION OF SOMETING IN THE ORDER OF 35m2.
Portland is a city and does not have a national guard. States have national guard units. Oregon is the state that Portland is located in, hence even though the airfield is located in Portland it is in fact part of the Oregon Air National Guard. Someone who claims to give news to people should be able to get simple facts straight. News agencies should really endeavor to hire competent employees.
the gooners are gonna steal the copper out of it
♥️🇱🇷♥️
you're from liberia?
Portland isn’t getting them, they will be stationed at Portland.
Really? Master of the obvious. You need to be President
watch -- the liberals in the state will try to sell them for cash to fund their pro-crime agenda
Civil War the movie is about to become a documentary
That airport looks like the only place left in Portland that doesn't have homeless tents all around...
"Mr. President, we keep sending all our best weapons around the World yet, Oregon has nothing "
Pres "What? ..give em a couple 52yr old, uh..F15. Jim Eagle... uh, well... I should probably stop talking jehbgdhdh".....
"Uh.. okay Sir?... can we at least redo the seats?..."
Pres "C'mon Man!!"....
What a drunken bot thing to say. Oregon has had a squadron of F-15 for decades. Their job is to patrol between Canada and California.
What idiot thinks the president makes decisions like this?
What moron thinks it's smart to use the best new planes in a rear guard capacity?
Imagine thinking the the EX only has a seating difference lol
@@opairsoft8100 Better still, imagine thinking this plane is 52 years old.
remember to thank a taxpayer for their service.
sad to see these go to such a liberal pro-crime state. They would NEVER step up to protect their own citizens. How can we expect them to protect an attack on the country. such a complete waste of money.
"To defend the Constitution of the United States against ALL enemies, foreign and domestic(MAGA)"
Trump 2024🇺🇸
It's the left that hates the constitution. Nice try.
Good strategy considering its location to China.
Lame.. first thing to go into the opening salvo
Public transportation anyone?
Oh so these are what theyre going to use against us. Got it
exactly - liberals are the biggest threat to the Good People in our country
This is why there is such a big push on autonomous fighter jets, no need for expensive systems to keep the human alive and it will bring down the cost tremendously, no need for cockpit, ejection systems, etc. Also, the jets will be able to much high higher G's. If anything the pilots will be used as glorified drone operators.
Looks like old MIGS
How does an engine with a metal shell cost 100million dollars
The F15 is a cold war relic.
how to say you know absolutely ZERO about aviation without actually saying it. there is still time for you to delete this ignorant comment
Relic or not, many rival air forces have been trying to catch up, and none have shown any success.
There's been so much demand for the F-15, it's been in constant production since 1976 because the USA's allies kept placing orders.
104-0.
Trump2024
Ya but the nine eleven threat was not neutralized.
What a moronic statement. Are you drunk or a bot?
IDF set those demo charges
@@dion8962 The Idaho Defense Force?
Sounds about White
@@WindFireAllThatKindOfThing Racism much?
@@dion8962 Take a penny, leave a penny. Besides, lived in Coeur d'Alene. I'll talk all the s**t about the notsees there I want, and there's nothing you can do about it, Gomer.
จะเป็นของคุณก็ไม่เอามันต้องแก้เยอะมันเติมน้ำมันก็ไม่ได้มันใช้ได้ 50% เท่านั้นเอง ของที่ให้มาก็ยังใช้ไม่ค่อยได้ อย่านอกเรื่องเลยขอเป็นเงินสด 100 ล้านก็ได้โบนัสเท่านั้นเป็นงานพิเศษ
Wait, More sinister than 9/11??
So this is fine to spend money on. But making kids lunches debt free is problematic.
Lmao tell me again what China and Russia have been saying and building up to….
Hint, it’s not school or anything good
Send it to Ukraine
No. They can buy their own.
Maybe send our 100000’s of Homeless and they can feed and house them?
They can't afford to operate one and they don't have the time to fully train their pilots.
They could send all the 40 year old jets they are replacing.
@@phil562 They could buy them if it mattered. They also shouldn't get 1 more cent from US taxpayers.
I love legacy media..
They call the F-15 the tennis court because it’s that big
It’s NOT a great dogfighter by any real standards
Can it hold its own?
Yeah, but when Russian and Chinese mainline fighters have super maneuverability it’s probably going to die in a dogfight given all things equal in terms of training and preparedness
It’s NOT more expensive than the F-35 and if it is it’s only because the government canceled a number of F-35s in favor of the F-15EX which the AF said they didn’t want before the guy that’s probably going to see the inside of a hospice pretty soon took office
It’s not a bad fighter..
It’s just an old fighter that’s more or less obsolete with newer tech and better range and carrying capacity
They’re already saying they need to get rid of the F-22 so it’s really not a good thing to be buying more of it’s predecessor but in a large scale air war it does have the ability to carry a lot more missiles than anything in the sky so that’s important for beyond visual range fighting where most fighting takes place and the F-15 does have an amazing radar
I’m sure those guys are extremely glad to be getting it but it probably would be better in most cases if they were getting F-35s
It’s just leaps and bounds ahead of everything else in the sky
There’s always an argument for 4th gen fighters honestly because you just don’t need your expensive to maintain 5th gen fighters running bombing runs after the third or fourth day when the enemies air defenses have been suppressed and that’s really what a plane like this is good for in modern air war.
The best case scenario would likely be that they are mixing the F-15 with F-35s because on an intercept you keep your stealth fighters out of sight which creates ambiguity for a potential threat
If they have no situational awareness they can’t fight you with any hope of winning so basically fourth gen fighters become like pawns while the stealth fighters stalk the enemy unseen
They’re less likely to see the stealth fighters if they have to focus on a visible threat which gives them a cloak to work behind
These planes cost $80 million each and the streets are filled with homeless.
Insanity at its finest.
The homeless problem is a state thing and city government thing that they refuse to fix. But also the number one reason people go homeless is because most of the choose to. Not all but most.
@@RW-zn8vy Sure, 40,000 homeless vets while the US spends $800 billion a year on the military. But, hey, they like living in tents. It reminds they of the good old days when they were fighting for this country.
One jet huh😂
Then those Portland f15cs probably gonna end up in Ukraine 😂
According to Portland residents on reddit, the jet is racist.
The next area of Oregon that needs to be updated is the government with more Conservatives!
😂😂😂 They are going extinct.
So a billion of taxpayer money for some jets
I’d rather pay for this asset to defend this country than the amount of money we have given to Ukraine or Palestine.
Worth ever penny!
lol, funny how everyone who whines about where taxpayer dollars go is someone who either doesn't have a job to pay taxes with or is afraid his tax shelters will be discovered and burned.
🙄I was wondering when we’d hear from the Jesus sandal wearing bike riders
@@kevint1911I’ll agree with you on Palestinians.. but Ukraine is a different story. For less than 1% of our defense budget we got 500,000 Russian casualties and not one flag draped coffin coming back the other way. Most of the military aid stays here in the US and some military equipment is surplus and unused anyway. Don’t feed into the bleach drinking MAGA narrative
So they have a new jet but homekess and crimes and rest everywhere there ? Lol 😆 🤣 😂 damn !!! 🤣 🤣 😅 Humans ! 😅😅😅
We could have just given that money to Ukraine ! 😂😂😂
For what???? Dare I ask... Looks like nothing more than a wealth transfer to me.
They literally polished a turd, this isn’t news
104:0
This "polished turd" still undefeated
@@bigvaxmeanie925 the f15 is a great platform, I wasn’t hating on it. I am hating on the fact it’s news that they release a new version of a 50+ year old airplane with equipment upgrades.
@@JoshHookerJoshhook123 what's wrong with the air frame?
What does it need to be replaced by ?
@@bigvaxmeanie925 a little dated. no stealth, vulnerability due to lack of armor and damage tolerant features, also maneuverability
@@JoshHookerJoshhook123
1. Stealth isn't necessary for this aircraft. We already have the F22, B2 and the F35 for those missions.
2. Fighter Aircraft don't fly with armor. It's not a tank.
3. It's the fastest fighter jet in our inventory. It's designed to intercept other aircraft.