I don't have words to thank you enough. I'm trying to get into fpv. This video is pretty good, too much important information shared at once. I hope other noobs find your videos "by accident" as I did. THANKS!
We Europeans only have Banggood, GearBest, Hobby King, Amazon and ebay. Would love to buy from USA but customs charges are a killer. I love my Turnigy Evolution designed specifically for miniquads. My Taranis I use for my larger PixHawk ships. Both radio protocols are solid and ibus is arguably better than sbus.
TheAnqueetas FrSky is the gold standard for 2.4Ghz range. You can get a tiny, 2.6g XM+ diversity receiver for 13$. Everyone's using FrSky, so you can rebind your backup quad for your friend. Every modern FC can invert Sbus.
Leon C. I bought a Turnigy Evolution with receiver,with battery,with USB lead for 51gbp from Hobby King UK store with 4.99GBP 24hr delivery. For the sole purpose of flying a mini quad and it works on all simulators too. A great start for a noob, which this video claims to speak to. I have a Teranis as I have said which is better suited to my larger,long range copters. Gold standard! Says who? Futaba may disagree with you.
Leon C. Thanks I already have a real radio, which one are you referring to for 80GBP including rechargeable battery and receiver? Again, missing the point.
Great video Bob I know this will help alot of people get started the right way and not fumble through it and waste $$ buying crap like so many of us have.
Great video and finally someone is giving the newcomer to the sport the right direction. I'll have to say it's been a little intimidating with all the motors,kv's, esc's, boards and transmitters. Thanks for the video
I started to go the "other way" when people talk about how much a race quad cost to build... I say the total prive when I pick absolute top of the line parts on everything I can maximum use 4500Kr. (Currency in denmark) equal to 650$ and that is with a minimum effort googleling for parts and not spending a ton on shipping and taxes.. but best parts in the cheapest shops... and I don't find that amount obscene.... but the important part is that compared to the cheap ones you build with the compromise on especially frame and essential parts (like a tramp or tbs vtx so you can play well with others) and a frame you can actually buy spare parts to is in my opinion key.... goggles and transmitter you can buy second hand or the qx7 (also the one I recommend!) And if they have more money to spend, buy more lipo's!!!
Started watching your channel more intently recently, gotta say I REALLY enjoy the straight forward and honest approach. Already a bunch of new things learned just in a handful of views. Working on a 5" build now...simply awaiting the BangGood shipment time...hooray... Keep up the good stuff man!
An extremely cheap way to get into the hobby (or just test it to see if you like it) would be to buy an E011 an AIO Cam/Cam&VTx an STLink+wires. You can mod this tiny whoop clone into an indoor acro quad for under $45USD, all form banggood. Add onto this the Taranis Q X7 and a $8USD multiprotocol module, and you can now control this tiny acro quad with a taranis. You can get a OTG 5.8GHz FPV receiver ($24USD) which will work with windows computers via USB in real time to view and record your flights. This is extremely good for both learning acro IRL and getting friends/family into the hobby.
I really enjoy your getting started videos. I think you make good recomendations to help people get into the hobby. I used the local shops build from your last buget build video and it has been awesome. Thanks for all your help with getting into this great hobby.
Whoops, I accidentally bought 3 of the 1500mAh 55C packs from CHL. Eh, by the time I learn to be good enough to utilize the higher C and (maybe?) lower weight pack, I'll probably run through those 3 packs and need new ones.
I have a QX-7 and a X9D. I also have a Turnigy Evolution. Its a great radio and dont hesitate to try one out for the money. I still prefer the hall sensor gimbals on my X9D but, if price is a factor, Evolution IS a contender.
Good video! I wish I had used sims first before I went all out on a 250 build and lost it a few days later only to rebuild and lost the second one a month later! FF 2 years, I have 3 racing drones and have about $7000 all together into this awesome hobby. Its an obsession and I Love it. I wish I had learned early on was how to care for batteries. One of the worst things to greatly degrade your battery is to leave it fully charged for more than a few days. I dont leave mine charged for more than 12 hrs. I would rather accidentally overdischarge a battery than leave it charged too long.
Super great video!! Thanks for the video. I've put just over a grand into the hobby and I have a pretty OK quad that already needs repair that I'm hesitant to invest in (Vusion 250) a Tiny Whoop which doesn't help me learn accro flying or freestyle moves (my attraction and interest) and a bunch of other stuff. What I don't have yet is a controller that I can plug into the computer for Sim time #shame or a 5 inch quad. I still don't regret anything yet, I love everything about RC flying, but I do wish I'd come across this video months ago. Looking forward to more videos.
All good, however the Eachine Wizard that intro-ed so many of us into the hobby remains a Stable craft one year later. Side panels off ,,, new camera, New TBS Unify same old motors , change stupid thin top plate as needed. Still a great investment . Discovered FlySky was not an industry standard and upgraded to QX7 pretty quickly and now have Cross fire on my Armattans but still use FrSky for most of my bashers and a few select Cadillac frames like the Japlura 4" , cause who really needs Crossfire range in the city. Granted its great for large fields and if you dare to dive stuff but you would then need expensive video range to ALMOST keep up with your new radio range.
Absolutely on point Puro flip is without a question my favorite company in the fpv racing community and Sergio is absolutely amazing so helpful so is Chad much respect angry video yet again and yes I do watch the end on them😉
I'm friends with Chad Novak on Facebook and he keeps putting me down because I say you don't need to spend lots of money to get into fpv drones saying the inexpensive stuff is crap I tried to explain to him that it's not like when he started the hobby and the cheap stuff was cheap now quality stuff is in expensive it's just fact he refuses to accept reality. I love how you give honest and real opinions about stuff and you actually try different things there for you can form an opinion and educated opinion about different products and how they compare and contrast to one another
UGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH wish i would've listened to videos like this (or known about them) when I started. I have a bunch of tiny whoops and other brushed builds, 3" builds, 2" inch builds, 2.5" builds and 5" inch builds ... each with their own batteries and what not. Should have just dumped all my cash / time into 5" builds and FrSky. **So much less tinkering**. So much easier to build. So much more support. So much more fun and durable. GRANTED: You can really hurt people, property or yourself very easily with these things. I think people underestimate the damage 1lb carbon fiber block can do at 30-70mph or polycarbonate blades spinning at 90bajillion rpm - and just how easy it is for these to get out of hand. I'm starting to really enjoy two different build platforms: 3" 1104 2s for backyard storming and ultra quiet flying and 5" 4s for everything else. I need to stop wasting time on anything else.
at one point i actually thought whoops and small brushless quads were cool. now, i hate them. i'd rather fly a simulator if i can't fly outside and even in small places i'd rather have a 5" quad. it's still a pretty small aircraft. like he said... the versatility of a 5" quad is amazing
Yes I often fly my 5" where I really should be flying a 3" quad too. But I really just don't like the feel of anything less than 5". Similarly, 6" is also pushing it in terms of feel. It would need to be on 5S at least for it to have a similar zip to it.
CesiumSalami tri blades seem to be quieter. the higher the RPM the louder. you could try 3s and low kv motors for a quieter flight, but you'll obviously suffer power. my 6" quad on triblades with 2100kv motors on 5s is significantly quieter than my 5" 4s 2600kv quads
Yes actually. Use the Emax Avan prop (if it ever comes out!) and 3S. It's gonna be really really quiet like a Prius. 3S in general is like half the noise of 4S. Even at just a hover I feel like. I'm receiving the final prototypes of the emax prop some time in the next week or two. They're really taking their sweet time on it.
This is a very old video. Watch my second to newest one. Or just check the ESC link in the description and buy the rcx ls2207 2400kv motors. You'll be getting a top shelf build for significantly less.
Very informative channel...Keep it coming...and coundn't help but notice the EZ Drones shout out....the only place everyone should go to in San Diego. They have everything you need for FPV. Wish i found them when i started, after weeks of waiting for online parts, i could have drove down to EZ Drone.
I think another good way to start is to join a local community of pilots in order to learn from their experience! I spent a lot of money at the beginning because i did not have anyone for stopping me buying stuffs i actually did not need lol
Great vid. Lots of people are saying great things about the new amoway goggles. Stu has a great review. Still run $300+ for a pair. If I was starting over, I wouldn't have gotten a prebuilt from eachine. I would have built my own. There's a ton of resources to assist on line. Also, I'd start in acro. The other modes screwed me up for a long time. Definitely agree with starting on a good sim.
Just shared the video to people interested in entering the Hobby. Only thing maybe to update the BnF ones like Holybro Kopis, EMAX Eagle, Armattan Rooster, Armattan Chameleon BnF options are great if building at the start is too much, but sooner or later you will have to build your own and is the way to go because knowing your Quad is important for repairs.
Better yet. Don't buy a transmitter, simulator or a quad. Go power on your playstation, download Battlefield 4 or Battlefield Hardline and jump in an empty server on the internet and choose the helicopter and start flying. After you have flown that for a while and are able to hover and land go buy a cheap transmitter and a cheap drone and some cheap parts and start having a blast like I did. I love fixing what breaks and I have loads of fun flying and I owe it all to Battlefield and cheap parts from Banggood. Don't let somebody tell you what to buy or not to buy. Buy what you want and have fun. Its that easy. You don't have to buy EXPENSIVE parts to enjoy this hobby.
Piroflip is awesome. They stand behind what they sell. The Tatuu batteries 1300 4s 75c for $19.99 is actually a pretty awesome value (currently sold out, but they come back in stock). Only problem is that stuff sells out if it is good. Hell, things that aren't good sell out fast in this hobby because the hype train gets going.
More BNF models are setup for FrSky, and ACCST is a fundamentally better frequency-hopping technology than a Turnigy. Your range may not be an issue, but it never is until it is, and then it's often too late and your savings go away in a hurry.
Wow. Thanks for the battery link! I ordered a few to try out. They're promoting their new 100C..lol. For $2 more I splurged. The best batteries I've ever used have been the Strix 1550's from RMRC. They're pricey but have endless power. I've also run with indestructible quads. They're good, but a bit on the heavy side. My lipos (pink wrapper) seem to have power, but cells don't balance well and they have a paper thin wrapper. Turnigy nano (not graphine..too damn heavy) on hobbyking seem to be the best value so far. Good for lighter craft. Haven't seen these show up anywhere until now. Looking forward to beating on these a bit.
Just wanna say i agree fully with your transmitter recommendation. But, flysky Tx for $ 50 bucks is a great deal as an entry radio and ten bucks for a PC adapter. Just to see if your gonna like it enough to spend lots of money LOL Cause your gonna want a taranis with M9 gimbals or the QXS7 Love you work
You just completely described my situation. 2016 flew nothing but toy drones by Syma, Hubsan, and Holy Stone. In 2017 I bought a Mavic Pro, bought tons of stuff for it and lost interest mid year. Why? Although it's a great mobile camera platform, it's not very exciting to fly. I've been doing research on building a 5" race drone, and also deciding on which transmitter to buy. I've been close to pulling the trigger on a Taranis QX7, but your video convinced me to do it now. It's going to be a couple months before the snow is gone, so I can play around with the simulators in the meantime. Thanks for all the great information. Liked and subscribed!
+Jeffrey Pringle wait on the transmitter. There's one coming at the end of March that has the potential to take a significant market share overnight. Looking really really good. Won't be more than $150 probably.
I agree with you 100% I was just saying for someone who has never flown or is unsure if the hobby is for them they can get their feet wet with an ok rtf but without a doubt you can build a much better craft your self I enjoy building almost as much as flying almost
Thanks for your recommendation for the CNHL batteries, both a friend and I got around 10 each and they work great for my application, I can pull 120A off them and they still only come down fairly warm. For the price and shipping (ships from ATL!!) you really can't go wrong!
only thing hard about getting started in this hobby is people don't know what to buy. That's it, they don't know what what parts go with what parts or if they should order a PDB when they already have a 4 in 1 stack.
I have a h8 mini quad from banggood running Dshot and telemetry... I guess im not a noob anymore. Started this hobby last year. h8 mini with brushless esc's and motors ofcourse.
How warm are your batteries after ripping? My tattu 75C 1300mah get fairly warm, but not hot. Also good advice on the batteries. I ordered 4 of those Tattu batteries, which are high quality and perform well, except I've damaged most of them in some way. I'm a noob so I guess that's why xD. I'll probably go with those China Hobby ones next time. Good advice.
+Gavin Remme mine don't get super hot. I try not to break things or push things if I don't have to. I want shit to last more than 4 flights. I hate rebuilding
Hey Bob. What's with the Torrent and the different props front and back? I've actually thought about doing something like that myself. My thought was, the back motors have to work harder, so putting more aggressive props could balance the work load. Just a theory. Is that what you're testing? Another thought I've been playing with in my head. On front drive tuner cars, like a Civic, tend to under-steer. To counteract this, we would put a wider tire on the front than on the back. This reduces the overall grip of the car, but makes the balance a bit better. The back has less grip, relative to the front, making it feel more willing to rotate. Are you testing this sort of thing out? Or did you just run out of props for the Torrent? Great video BTW really giving the noobs some good advice.
Winslow FPV no you want all the props the same. the totrent had different ones because I screwed up designing the frame and the bigger props don't fit on the front.
Great Vid as always Babak. Unfortunately about one year late for me but I guess never is too late. Thanks for the pirofliprc.com link...competitive pricing...they are selling QX7 cheaper than Banggod!
I went with the flysky x6 channel modded to 20 channels. Love it and it was only $40 great build quality and functionality. I never had a DJI tho. I started couple toy drone then custom brushed micro 100mm then 5 inch custom
Kabab FPV, Really like your channel and thanks for all the links in the description of this video. As for simulator recommendations, which one do you practice with?
Pretty redundant but good advice. Most toy quads are crap. Buying cheap will cost more later when you have to upgrade to better stuff. Wish I knew where to shop six months ago.
I know only like 2 US based companies, which can ship to Europe properly. Just checked PiroFlipRC and they don't ship to Europe. On the other hand Banggood ships everywhere for free and usually they get through customs easy :)
RandomWisdom There are tons of great european shops: flyduino, MRP, flyingmachines, n-factory, rctech... Yes Banggood is cheaper, but by buying their crappy hardware that takes 2 months to arrive, you're contributing of the "there are no local shops" issue.
I looked at the goggles you linked, and I didn't see mention of diversity. I'm not sure if there's a difference between dual antenna and diversity, but I thought I'd let you know that they are possibly *not* diversity.
Really the only downside I see with those goggles is the (seemingly) low-res screen. 480x272 doesn't sound like it would give a lot of details when outside and trying to spot branches. How much of a difference would be seen with a similar goggle that has a 800x480 screen?
For someone like me who has no idea how to build a nice fast tight 5 inch quad. Would you ever suggest an ARF drone like the new 5S Wizard X220S or the Diatone Crusader GT2017 ?? I thinkI might be able to handle upgrades and fixes better than building from scratch. Would you still recommend building from scratch for someone in my position ? I am thinking about your custom build or something similar but am slightly worried a custom build might be much harder to tune than an ARF quad ? What are your thoughts please ?
I like all your recommendations and your videos are really helpful. But i wouldn't recommend a flight controller without buzzer port for beginners. It makes life far easier in the field.
he's right buy nice or buy twice. anyone want to tell me if I should get a pagota for my eachine cheap goggles and cheap vtx. I've been using aomway this whole time. any ideas of a way to get better signal? thanks
Regarding goggles, the Aomway commander/FU-RC goggles are comparable to the fatshark dominator v3's, except they come with a diversity receiver built in. Much cheaper too, about 300 US.
I prefer my modified quanum v2 box goggles over the most expensive fatsharks. They r just more immersive and I don't mind the size and look. My quanum a have more immersion than any other goggle on the market, feels pretty comfortable, and only cost like $60. The $400 fatsharks cost almost x7 more and the only advantage is (maybe) better reception, smaller size, and less weight. Just my opinion. And I think it could be others too. The box goggles have a better experience when you are flying but are a pain when traveling. Also have you tried the Aomway Commander goggles? Seem like a decent competitor to the fatsharks in both price and performance. Nice vid!
I'm currently flying with a pair of attitude v2's, but I want an upgrade, do you reckon the attitude v3 is a viable option or go with the dom v3's? I've heard the 16:9 aspect ratio is really bad with an standard HS1177, so having a 16:9 fpv cam is a must? Great video!
I whole-heartedly disagree. It's true, you can jump right in to very high performance craft after playing a high performance craft simulator,, but toys teach a pilot a lot about subtle aerodynamics, and not every pilot is in FPV for the rush of a huge burst of speed and just the right flip. You are correct, we all want those sweet moments and thrills, but you have to think,, everyone who says don't buy toys,, DID buy lots of toys, AND fly them. so THEIR performance is a representation of what happens when you DO buy toys,,, and then there are a lot of people who DON"T get so far along, and they jumped straight to an alien,,,, so I have to say that toys and cheap things are materials that offer learning, and although their performance is limited, they are very valuable for piloting experience. If someone feels that they want to buy a toy or a cheap kit, they will probably benefit from it, and FPV will grow more than if they try to spend all of their money on goggles instead of a cheap screen and more vehicles.
I just started this hobby and I'm about to build my own drone, I ordered all my things from banggood, do you dislike banggood or do you just dislike cheap stuff, can you recommend some cheap good parts for me (Motors, ESC's, Flight controller)
I can recommend Emax motors, 2205 or above. around the 2400-2500 KV area if you are building a 5" quad. it goes well with the F4 Flame Race spec flight controller and BLHeli Littlebee Spring 30A ESC's.
Hey man, I can only agree on wasting money on toys.... Today, I just flew my first DIY 250 racer and maaaan... With all the money I already wasted on those toys I could have already have the quad plus a decent transmitter (had a Devo 7 for years) and a lot of upgrades for the quad and all ,-(
Yup. Considering I have a lot of other random electronics projects, I may actually find a use for all of them for something else. I'd assume that I wouldn't be able to pair it with the receiver that came with that Turnigy 9x I have? If so, it'd be useful for other projects.
Hey Bob great video I wish someone had made these recommendations a few years ago watching TH-camrs like quadcopter 101 which is a good channel but mostly demos toy quads I thought it was a good idea to start with toys of course I later figured out it was a total waste of money like you said but I disagree with your recommendation for a noobie to build their first racing drone their second ok I say this because these days you can buy something like the Eachine wizard cheaper than you can build your own and they can see if the hobby is for them as you know building a drone requires some skills which not everyone is capable of it also requires many tools like a good soldering station ,wire cutters,Allen wrenches,tweezers and many more which cost a good bit now for someone that knows this is the hobby for them I would absolutely recommend building their own anyway I would like to see you make a video on building your hyperfloss I built mine last week and it is a beast I went with the 5" version speedix 4 in 1 and f40 pro motors and the performance is insane
Dave stints the wizard is an okay product but it's pretty easy to break and the props it comes with explode in the air. when it breaks you need to know how to fix it. you're better off building your own. it's a far better path.
Hi! Loving your videos. Recently build my first 5inch and having a blast, just hoping the snow would melt soon D: I remember you mentioning a screen rolling problem on your dominator V3 goggles. I have the same pair with FSV2445 receiver and Im experiencing the same issue. Did you get this fixed and how?
Are you liking the pagoda antennas? I know Bardwell did a pretty comprehensive antenna vid and the original seemed super quality, but it seems like everyone has their own "pagoda" now
Kinda interested in why you say stay away from the the turnigy evolution as well. I honestly grabbed because it was small light and a lot like a game controller. It's easy to use.
Fran Galasso but it doesn't do everything you might want to do with it in the future, the radio protocol is not as robust and the receivers are large. that's why I recommend the taranis. it's just a better value overall
i use the exact same box googles .. eachine branded .. the holes on top are not speakers :D sorry just just pointing out a small error . great video :)
Nice and informative Kabab! Don't know if you've ever flown a BNF Diatone GT2 Crusader 200mm, but what are your thoughts on that quad as a relatively cheap 5 inch? Thanks!
I personally have a Turnigy Evolution and I think it's great but I am really thining about getting a QX7. Little story: I've built two quads one is a ZMR250 and the other is a Martian 1 *I think*, I lost the ZMR250 and the Martian is having issues. Anyways to the point, I have been flying DRL a few times and I actually changed my "stance" from thumbs to pinch, I do much better at pinching than I do thumbs. Question, would changing to a Taranis type controller be a better option now?
I'm actually recommending one of these now. I haven't tried either but I think they're the best options on banggood. www.banggood.com/TransTEC-Freedom-215mm-4mm-3K-Carbon-Fiber-Frame-Kit-for-Multirotor-p-1182388.html?rmmds=search www.banggood.com/XH210-210mm-Carbon-Fiber-3_5mm-Arm-Frame-Kit-for-Racing-Drone-p-1161966.html?rmmds=detail-bottom-viewalsoview
In your opinion, would 20A ESCs be too small for one of your hyperlite V4 2206 2522kv motors? Also would they (DYS XSD20A escs) fit in your hyperfloss frame? Could you tell me how thich the arm is?
Thanks Kabab, I had a lot of fun with the Blade 110 fpv, but i get only 2:30 Minutes Flight time on a 2s 800mah and only 1:30 Minutes flight time on 3s 500 mah. Would you recommend the up coming *Blade Therory XL 5 inch BNF*?
I don't have words to thank you enough. I'm trying to get into fpv. This video is pretty good, too much important information shared at once. I hope other noobs find your videos "by accident" as I did. THANKS!
We Europeans only have Banggood, GearBest, Hobby King, Amazon and ebay. Would love to buy from USA but customs charges are a killer. I love my Turnigy Evolution designed specifically for miniquads. My Taranis I use for my larger PixHawk ships. Both radio protocols are solid and ibus is arguably better than sbus.
TheAnqueetas FrSky is the gold standard for 2.4Ghz range. You can get a tiny, 2.6g XM+ diversity receiver for 13$. Everyone's using FrSky, so you can rebind your backup quad for your friend. Every modern FC can invert Sbus.
Leon C. I bought a Turnigy Evolution with receiver,with battery,with USB lead for 51gbp from Hobby King UK store with 4.99GBP 24hr delivery. For the sole purpose of flying a mini quad and it works on all simulators too. A great start for a noob, which this video claims to speak to. I have a Teranis as I have said which is better suited to my larger,long range copters. Gold standard! Says who? Futaba may disagree with you.
35$ more could've bought you a proper radio.
Leon C. Thanks I already have a real radio, which one are you referring to for 80GBP including rechargeable battery and receiver? Again, missing the point.
TheAnqueetas same in australia but no amazon items ship to us
Great video Bob I know this will help alot of people get started the right way and not fumble through it and waste $$ buying crap like so many of us have.
Great video and finally someone is giving the newcomer to the sport the right direction. I'll have to say it's been a little intimidating with all the motors,kv's, esc's, boards and transmitters. Thanks for the video
I started to go the "other way" when people talk about how much a race quad cost to build... I say the total prive when I pick absolute top of the line parts on everything I can maximum use 4500Kr. (Currency in denmark) equal to 650$ and that is with a minimum effort googleling for parts and not spending a ton on shipping and taxes.. but best parts in the cheapest shops...
and I don't find that amount obscene.... but the important part is that compared to the cheap ones you build with the compromise on especially frame and essential parts (like a tramp or tbs vtx so you can play well with others) and a frame you can actually buy spare parts to is in my opinion key.... goggles and transmitter you can buy second hand or the qx7 (also the one I recommend!)
And if they have more money to spend, buy more lipo's!!!
Started watching your channel more intently recently, gotta say I REALLY enjoy the straight forward and honest approach. Already a bunch of new things learned just in a handful of views. Working on a 5" build now...simply awaiting the BangGood shipment time...hooray...
Keep up the good stuff man!
An extremely cheap way to get into the hobby (or just test it to see if you like it) would be to buy an E011 an AIO Cam/Cam&VTx an STLink+wires. You can mod this tiny whoop clone into an indoor acro quad for under $45USD, all form banggood. Add onto this the Taranis Q X7 and a $8USD multiprotocol module, and you can now control this tiny acro quad with a taranis. You can get a OTG 5.8GHz FPV receiver ($24USD) which will work with windows computers via USB in real time to view and record your flights. This is extremely good for both learning acro IRL and getting friends/family into the hobby.
Eachine h8 mini, 12 bucks, never replace anything, Heeps of fun enough to get u hooked, best 12 bucks I ever spent
Just my 2 cents on the subject
I really enjoy your getting started videos. I think you make good recomendations to help people get into the hobby. I used the local shops build from your last buget build video and it has been awesome. Thanks for all your help with getting into this great hobby.
Whoops, I accidentally bought 3 of the 1500mAh 55C packs from CHL.
Eh, by the time I learn to be good enough to utilize the higher C and (maybe?) lower weight pack, I'll probably run through those 3 packs and need new ones.
LazerLord10 the 55C are fine if you're not planning on racing.
i'm just in love with that 5" floss
I have a QX-7 and a X9D. I also have a Turnigy Evolution. Its a great radio and dont hesitate to try one out for the money. I still prefer the hall sensor gimbals on my X9D but, if price is a factor, Evolution IS a contender.
Good video! I wish I had used sims first before I went all out on a 250 build and lost it a few days later only to rebuild and lost the second one a month later! FF 2 years, I have 3 racing drones and have about $7000 all together into this awesome hobby. Its an obsession and I Love it. I wish I had learned early on was how to care for batteries. One of the worst things to greatly degrade your battery is to leave it fully charged for more than a few days. I dont leave mine charged for more than 12 hrs. I would rather accidentally overdischarge a battery than leave it charged too long.
How about reducing the voltage when your charger stops charging to 4.1 or 4.0 volts per cell? How much of a reduction in flight time vs 4.2/cell?
Super great video!! Thanks for the video. I've put just over a grand into the hobby and I have a pretty OK quad that already needs repair that I'm hesitant to invest in (Vusion 250) a Tiny Whoop which doesn't help me learn accro flying or freestyle moves (my attraction and interest) and a bunch of other stuff. What I don't have yet is a controller that I can plug into the computer for Sim time #shame or a 5 inch quad. I still don't regret anything yet, I love everything about RC flying, but I do wish I'd come across this video months ago. Looking forward to more videos.
Been flying over a year now and I agree with pretty much everything he says👍🏻
👍👌 I started off with cheap goggles and I'm happy I did. Thanks for all the info. Team spektrum wish spektrum would drop their remote prices
All good, however the Eachine Wizard that intro-ed so many of us into the hobby remains a Stable craft one year later. Side panels off ,,, new camera, New TBS Unify same old motors , change stupid thin top plate as needed. Still a great investment . Discovered FlySky was not an industry standard and upgraded to QX7 pretty quickly and now have Cross fire on my Armattans but still use FrSky for most of my bashers and a few select Cadillac frames like the Japlura 4" , cause who really needs Crossfire range in the city. Granted its great for large fields and if you dare to dive stuff but you would then need expensive video range to ALMOST keep up with your new radio range.
This is really old video by now. I'm working on some new things for a new one.
I wish this video was available to me when I first started a little over a year ago. Great job!
Wonderful video! I think this will be a great project for my son and I to do this summer. happy flying
Yes that's fantastic!
Absolutely on point Puro flip is without a question my favorite company in the fpv racing community and Sergio is absolutely amazing so helpful so is Chad much respect angry video yet again and yes I do watch the end on them😉
I'm friends with Chad Novak on Facebook and he keeps putting me down because I say you don't need to spend lots of money to get into fpv drones saying the inexpensive stuff is crap I tried to explain to him that it's not like when he started the hobby and the cheap stuff was cheap now quality stuff is in expensive it's just fact he refuses to accept reality. I love how you give honest and real opinions about stuff and you actually try different things there for you can form an opinion and educated opinion about different products and how they compare and contrast to one another
I'm pretty sure it has dual antennas only one receiver not diversity they try to trick people with that
Chad Novak is a part of Rotor Riot. Rotor Riot sells expensive stuff. What would you say if you're Chad Novak?
UGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH wish i would've listened to videos like this (or known about them) when I started. I have a bunch of tiny whoops and other brushed builds, 3" builds, 2" inch builds, 2.5" builds and 5" inch builds ... each with their own batteries and what not. Should have just dumped all my cash / time into 5" builds and FrSky. **So much less tinkering**. So much easier to build. So much more support. So much more fun and durable. GRANTED: You can really hurt people, property or yourself very easily with these things. I think people underestimate the damage 1lb carbon fiber block can do at 30-70mph or polycarbonate blades spinning at 90bajillion rpm - and just how easy it is for these to get out of hand.
I'm starting to really enjoy two different build platforms: 3" 1104 2s for backyard storming and ultra quiet flying and 5" 4s for everything else. I need to stop wasting time on anything else.
at one point i actually thought whoops and small brushless quads were cool. now, i hate them. i'd rather fly a simulator if i can't fly outside and even in small places i'd rather have a 5" quad. it's still a pretty small aircraft. like he said... the versatility of a 5" quad is amazing
Yes I often fly my 5" where I really should be flying a 3" quad too. But I really just don't like the feel of anything less than 5". Similarly, 6" is also pushing it in terms of feel. It would need to be on 5S at least for it to have a similar zip to it.
On this topic: do you have any recommendations for whisper quiet 5" propellers for the surreptitious flyer?
CesiumSalami tri blades seem to be quieter. the higher the RPM the louder. you could try 3s and low kv motors for a quieter flight, but you'll obviously suffer power. my 6" quad on triblades with 2100kv motors on 5s is significantly quieter than my 5" 4s 2600kv quads
Yes actually. Use the Emax Avan prop (if it ever comes out!) and 3S. It's gonna be really really quiet like a Prius. 3S in general is like half the noise of 4S. Even at just a hover I feel like. I'm receiving the final prototypes of the emax prop some time in the next week or two. They're really taking their sweet time on it.
someday kabab will drop something into the pool behind the ledge, ive been waiting for that day but some day i know it will come xD
This is a very old video. Watch my second to newest one. Or just check the ESC link in the description and buy the rcx ls2207 2400kv motors. You'll be getting a top shelf build for significantly less.
Very informative channel...Keep it coming...and coundn't help but notice the EZ Drones shout out....the only place everyone should go to in San Diego. They have everything you need for FPV. Wish i found them when i started, after weeks of waiting for online parts, i could have drove down to EZ Drone.
I think another good way to start is to join a local community of pilots in order to learn from their experience!
I spent a lot of money at the beginning because i did not have anyone for stopping me buying stuffs i actually did not need lol
I've had the JJPRO vision goggles for a few months now and I really like them for the price. $60 and they're great. Just no diversity or DVR.
Great vid.
Lots of people are saying great things about the new amoway goggles. Stu has a great review. Still run $300+ for a pair.
If I was starting over, I wouldn't have gotten a prebuilt from eachine. I would have built my own. There's a ton of resources to assist on line.
Also, I'd start in acro. The other modes screwed me up for a long time. Definitely agree with starting on a good sim.
InFrontOfYourBack1 it really is valuable to be able to swap out your receiver module. for that reason I don't think the aomway is a good option.
Just shared the video to people interested in entering the Hobby. Only thing maybe to update the BnF ones like Holybro Kopis, EMAX Eagle, Armattan Rooster, Armattan Chameleon BnF options are great if building at the start is too much, but sooner or later you will have to build your own and is the way to go because knowing your Quad is important for repairs.
Better yet. Don't buy a transmitter, simulator or a quad. Go power on your playstation, download Battlefield 4 or Battlefield Hardline and jump in an empty server on the internet and choose the helicopter and start flying. After you have flown that for a while and are able to hover and land go buy a cheap transmitter and a cheap drone and some cheap parts and start having a blast like I did. I love fixing what breaks and I have loads of fun flying and I owe it all to Battlefield and cheap parts from Banggood. Don't let somebody tell you what to buy or not to buy. Buy what you want and have fun. Its that easy. You don't have to buy EXPENSIVE parts to enjoy this hobby.
Great video for beginners to know what gear to get into the hobby. Definitely showing it to my friends
Piroflip is awesome. They stand behind what they sell. The Tatuu batteries 1300 4s 75c for $19.99 is actually a pretty awesome value (currently sold out, but they come back in stock). Only problem is that stuff sells out if it is good. Hell, things that aren't good sell out fast in this hobby because the hype train gets going.
More BNF models are setup for FrSky, and ACCST is a fundamentally better frequency-hopping technology than a Turnigy. Your range may not be an issue, but it never is until it is, and then it's often too late and your savings go away in a hurry.
Wow. Thanks for the battery link! I ordered a few to try out. They're promoting their new 100C..lol. For $2 more I splurged.
The best batteries I've ever used have been the Strix 1550's from RMRC. They're pricey but have endless power. I've also run with indestructible quads. They're good, but a bit on the heavy side. My lipos (pink wrapper) seem to have power, but cells don't balance well and they have a paper thin wrapper. Turnigy nano (not graphine..too damn heavy) on hobbyking seem to be the best value so far. Good for lighter craft.
Haven't seen these show up anywhere until now. Looking forward to beating on these a bit.
Just wanna say i agree fully with your transmitter recommendation. But, flysky Tx for $ 50 bucks is a great deal as an entry radio and ten bucks for a PC adapter. Just to see if your gonna like it enough to spend lots of money LOL Cause your gonna want a taranis with M9 gimbals or the QXS7 Love you work
You just completely described my situation. 2016 flew nothing but toy drones by Syma, Hubsan, and Holy Stone. In 2017 I bought a Mavic Pro, bought tons of stuff for it and lost interest mid year. Why? Although it's a great mobile camera platform, it's not very exciting to fly. I've been doing research on building a 5" race drone, and also deciding on which transmitter to buy. I've been close to pulling the trigger on a Taranis QX7, but your video convinced me to do it now. It's going to be a couple months before the snow is gone, so I can play around with the simulators in the meantime. Thanks for all the great information. Liked and subscribed!
+Jeffrey Pringle wait on the transmitter. There's one coming at the end of March that has the potential to take a significant market share overnight. Looking really really good. Won't be more than $150 probably.
Excellent tips as always and to the point. Nice mansion btw lol Being a dentist pays off
RockTouching that mortgage and dem student loans tho.....
Thank you for this video! Very informative.
i wish i saw this video before i started 3 months ago!!! haha awesome info!
5" quads is over 250g which requires an insurance or license in some countries... so check the local regulations before getting the larger ones.
I agree with you 100% I was just saying for someone who has never flown or is unsure if the hobby is for them they can get their feet wet with an ok rtf but without a doubt you can build a much better craft your self I enjoy building almost as much as flying almost
Alright, you now have to build me a time machine and go back in time and show me this video so I can get my money back that I wasted.
In my opinion, the FPV Event simulator has the most realistic feel. Unfortunately it's not free.
Thanks for your recommendation for the CNHL batteries, both a friend and I got around 10 each and they work great for my application, I can pull 120A off them and they still only come down fairly warm. For the price and shipping (ships from ATL!!) you really can't go wrong!
only thing hard about getting started in this hobby is people don't know what to buy. That's it, they don't know what what parts go with what parts or if they should order a PDB when they already have a 4 in 1 stack.
even if you don't like to fly fpv (what i don't suppose) you could use the goggles for fpv rc cars. great fun too
Another great video and great advice
I want to see that massive actocopter thing fly!!!
garbage parts often are great
Job91 only if you know what you're doing. not to a noob
I have a h8 mini quad from banggood running Dshot and telemetry... I guess im not a noob anymore. Started this hobby last year. h8 mini with brushless esc's and motors ofcourse.
So i guess its better that he swaps + and - on a TBS Unify and not a cheapish VTX03? thats just 40 Bucks going up in Clouds instead of 10
alex schick would that happen on a unify? also, that's just a dumb mistake. you can't account for that by just buying trash. pay attention
How warm are your batteries after ripping? My tattu 75C 1300mah get fairly warm, but not hot. Also good advice on the batteries. I ordered 4 of those Tattu batteries, which are high quality and perform well, except I've damaged most of them in some way. I'm a noob so I guess that's why xD. I'll probably go with those China Hobby ones next time. Good advice.
+Gavin Remme mine don't get super hot. I try not to break things or push things if I don't have to. I want shit to last more than 4 flights. I hate rebuilding
Hey Bob.
What's with the Torrent and the different props front and back?
I've actually thought about doing something like that myself. My thought was, the back motors have to work harder, so putting more aggressive props could balance the work load. Just a theory. Is that what you're testing?
Another thought I've been playing with in my head. On front drive tuner cars, like a Civic, tend to under-steer. To counteract this, we would put a wider tire on the front than on the back. This reduces the overall grip of the car, but makes the balance a bit better. The back has less grip, relative to the front, making it feel more willing to rotate.
Are you testing this sort of thing out? Or did you just run out of props for the Torrent?
Great video BTW really giving the noobs some good advice.
Winslow FPV no you want all the props the same. the totrent had different ones because I screwed up designing the frame and the bigger props don't fit on the front.
great entry tutorial and a nice mansion, BTW :)
Banggood Customer service is actually pretty damn sweet these days not gonna lie
yeah they are but not for people that are used to dealing with Amazon that just like throws whatever you want at you
Kabab FPV true that, but once you know your stuff they are quite helpful, their staffs English has improved lately from what i have experienced
Oh how I wish I knew not to waste money on those toys earlier...Best advice to give though!
For today (beginning of 2018), LDARC(KingKong) ET series are the best option in BabyHawk/Torrent class
Great Vid as always Babak. Unfortunately about one year late for me but I guess never is too late. Thanks for the pirofliprc.com link...competitive pricing...they are selling QX7 cheaper than Banggod!
The Hobbyking Cyclops V2 are also a great set of cheap goggles.
pickup a controller, pick up a controller, pick up a controller.......fly simulator
Great advice. Thanks.
Eachine H8 Mini with Silver13's firmware and a little AIO camera and there you go. Acro mode FPV for
I went with the flysky x6 channel modded to 20 channels. Love it and it was only $40 great build quality and functionality. I never had a DJI tho. I started couple toy drone then custom brushed micro 100mm then 5 inch custom
Kabab FPV, Really like your channel and thanks for all the links in the description of this video. As for simulator recommendations, which one do you practice with?
DroningOnAndOn the DRL one is the easiest to setup. so that one
Pretty redundant but good advice. Most toy quads are crap. Buying cheap will cost more later when you have to upgrade to better stuff. Wish I knew where to shop six months ago.
We all went through it...
Did you know that drone flying isnt fashion contest ? I dont care how I look when I am flying. :D
I know only like 2 US based companies, which can ship to Europe properly. Just checked PiroFlipRC and they don't ship to Europe. On the other hand Banggood ships everywhere for free and usually they get through customs easy :)
RandomWisdom There are tons of great european shops: flyduino, MRP, flyingmachines, n-factory, rctech...
Yes Banggood is cheaper, but by buying their crappy hardware that takes 2 months to arrive, you're contributing of the "there are no local shops" issue.
Boxstyle works great!
Just look for 480p.
I looked at the goggles you linked, and I didn't see mention of diversity. I'm not sure if there's a difference between dual antenna and diversity, but I thought I'd let you know that they are possibly *not* diversity.
+LazerLord10 whatever they are, they're good. Probably a fake diversity but whatever.
Really the only downside I see with those goggles is the (seemingly) low-res screen. 480x272 doesn't sound like it would give a lot of details when outside and trying to spot branches. How much of a difference would be seen with a similar goggle that has a 800x480 screen?
Do you ever swim in that pool?
sam Costin unfortunately not since my accident a year ago where I broke both my legs and arms. it's very painful to swim.
Holy crap man. Sorry to hear that.
Kabab how did you manage to do that?
Rc Addict with planes very very bad car accident. I was stopped and someone crossed 2 lanes and an 8ft center divider and almost killed me
David how is that funny an any shape or form? the man almost died.
For someone like me who has no idea how to build a nice fast tight 5 inch quad. Would you ever suggest an ARF drone like the new 5S Wizard X220S or the Diatone Crusader GT2017 ?? I thinkI might be able to handle upgrades and fixes better than building from scratch. Would you still recommend building from scratch for someone in my position ? I am thinking about your custom build or something similar but am slightly worried a custom build might be much harder to tune than an ARF quad ? What are your thoughts please ?
I like all your recommendations and your videos are really helpful. But i wouldn't recommend a flight controller without buzzer port for beginners. It makes life far easier in the field.
beautiful home.. looks like being dentist has paid off
i need extra lipos are those chinahobby lipos good ? i have some older grey dinogy 70c and my best is strixx but 40$ each
he's right buy nice or buy twice. anyone want to tell me if I should get a pagota for my eachine cheap goggles and cheap vtx. I've been using aomway this whole time. any ideas of a way to get better signal? thanks
Cole L if you need a new antenna, get a Pagoda. otherwise, the one you have is fine.
Yeah my range is super limited and fuzzy so I'm looking for a cheap way to get good coverage
Regarding goggles, the Aomway commander/FU-RC goggles are comparable to the fatshark dominator v3's, except they come with a diversity receiver built in. Much cheaper too, about 300 US.
I prefer my modified quanum v2 box goggles over the most expensive fatsharks. They r just more immersive and I don't mind the size and look. My quanum a have more immersion than any other goggle on the market, feels pretty comfortable, and only cost like $60. The $400 fatsharks cost almost x7 more and the only advantage is (maybe) better reception, smaller size, and less weight. Just my opinion. And I think it could be others too. The box goggles have a better experience when you are flying but are a pain when traveling. Also have you tried the Aomway Commander goggles? Seem like a decent competitor to the fatsharks in both price and performance. Nice vid!
Thank for these videos. Helpful. WHat is up with the GoPro in that green mount. Is that just a really high angle ?
bang goods customer service is actually pretty good, I've had a part that didn't work and they sent me a new one without a hassle
XM Plus is cheaper and since OSD became standard, there is no need to S.Port and read out voltage on Taranis
I'm currently flying with a pair of attitude v2's, but I want an upgrade, do you reckon the attitude v3 is a viable option or go with the dom v3's? I've heard the 16:9 aspect ratio is really bad with an standard HS1177, so having a 16:9 fpv cam is a must? Great video!
Did you just smash into yourself FPV. That made me chuckle :-) thanks.
I whole-heartedly disagree. It's true, you can jump right in to very high performance craft after playing a high performance craft simulator,, but toys teach a pilot a lot about subtle aerodynamics, and not every pilot is in FPV for the rush of a huge burst of speed and just the right flip. You are correct, we all want those sweet moments and thrills, but you have to think,, everyone who says don't buy toys,, DID buy lots of toys, AND fly them. so THEIR performance is a representation of what happens when you DO buy toys,,, and then there are a lot of people who DON"T get so far along, and they jumped straight to an alien,,,, so I have to say that toys and cheap things are materials that offer learning, and although their performance is limited, they are very valuable for piloting experience. If someone feels that they want to buy a toy or a cheap kit, they will probably benefit from it, and FPV will grow more than if they try to spend all of their money on goggles instead of a cheap screen and more vehicles.
A lot of people has been through his method and they're fine. In fact, I saw some comments about people regretting for wasting money on toy quads.
I just started this hobby and I'm about to build my own drone, I ordered all my things from banggood, do you dislike banggood or do you just dislike cheap stuff, can you recommend some cheap good parts for me (Motors, ESC's, Flight controller)
I can recommend Emax motors, 2205 or above. around the 2400-2500 KV area if you are building a 5" quad. it goes well with the F4 Flame Race spec flight controller and BLHeli Littlebee Spring 30A ESC's.
Hey man, I can only agree on wasting money on toys....
Today, I just flew my first DIY 250 racer and maaaan...
With all the money I already wasted on those toys I could have already have the quad plus a decent transmitter (had a Devo 7 for years) and a lot of upgrades for the quad and all ,-(
So should I just toss (aka: sell on ebay) my Turigy 9X?
+LazerLord10 yes. Straight up. I would say the Q X7 is worth it.
Let's hope I can recoup some of that $60.
(also, *16 CH!* dang!. Might be good if I ever revive my filming quad. all the functions!)
+LazerLord10 the number of channels is insignificant. We don't use all those anymore. Like you said. Only for camera work or robots.
Yup. Considering I have a lot of other random electronics projects, I may actually find a use for all of them for something else. I'd assume that I wouldn't be able to pair it with the receiver that came with that Turnigy 9x I have? If so, it'd be useful for other projects.
+LazerLord10 unlikely
Hey Bob great video I wish someone had made these recommendations a few years ago watching TH-camrs like quadcopter 101 which is a good channel but mostly demos toy quads I thought it was a good idea to start with toys of course I later figured out it was a total waste of money like you said but I disagree with your recommendation for a noobie to build their first racing drone their second ok I say this because these days you can buy something like the Eachine wizard cheaper than you can build your own and they can see if the hobby is for them as you know building a drone requires some skills which not everyone is capable of it also requires many tools like a good soldering station ,wire cutters,Allen wrenches,tweezers and many more which cost a good bit now for someone that knows this is the hobby for them I would absolutely recommend building their own anyway I would like to see you make a video on building your hyperfloss I built mine last week and it is a beast I went with the 5" version speedix 4 in 1 and f40 pro motors and the performance is insane
Dave stints the wizard is an okay product but it's pretty easy to break and the props it comes with explode in the air. when it breaks you need to know how to fix it. you're better off building your own. it's a far better path.
Hi! Loving your videos. Recently build my first 5inch and having a blast, just hoping the snow would melt soon D:
I remember you mentioning a screen rolling problem on your dominator V3 goggles. I have the same pair with FSV2445 receiver and Im experiencing the same issue. Did you get this fixed and how?
hoplis moimoi fatshark replaced the video driver module for me and now it's good.
Shiit. I hope I don't have to send it all the way to America
🤔 Wow, he actually got the "coming from the phantom" right.
you're not alone. I'd say half the community came from a phantom
0:16 i almost screammed...
Piroflip is excellent..
I think at this days is better to take a X9D+ for 180 Bucks and you have no issues when you want upgrade on Crossfire
Are you liking the pagoda antennas? I know Bardwell did a pretty comprehensive antenna vid and the original seemed super quality, but it seems like everyone has their own "pagoda" now
reboot 1 they're really good. definitely an improvement
Kinda interested in why you say stay away from the the turnigy evolution as well. I honestly grabbed because it was small light and a lot like a game controller. It's easy to use.
Fran Galasso but it doesn't do everything you might want to do with it in the future, the radio protocol is not as robust and the receivers are large. that's why I recommend the taranis. it's just a better value overall
i use the exact same box googles .. eachine branded .. the holes on top are not speakers :D sorry just just pointing out a small error . great video :)
Foxeer Monster camera - what do you use for a replacement lens or your perfected lens for this camera?
Nice and informative Kabab! Don't know if you've ever flown a BNF Diatone GT2 Crusader 200mm, but what are your thoughts on that quad as a relatively cheap 5 inch? Thanks!
Jean Lee it's good but I would recommend you build your own. you're gonna break things. building is inevitable
I personally have a Turnigy Evolution and I think it's great but I am really thining about getting a QX7. Little story:
I've built two quads one is a ZMR250 and the other is a Martian 1 *I think*, I lost the ZMR250 and the Martian is having issues. Anyways to the point, I have been flying DRL a few times and I actually changed my "stance" from thumbs to pinch, I do much better at pinching than I do thumbs. Question, would changing to a Taranis type controller be a better option now?
v1ral671 right. the Evo doesn't allow good pinching and the gimbal throw is much less than taranis
Will the frame you recommended be good for freestyle and allow the batteries you recommend to be top mounted ?
I'm actually recommending one of these now. I haven't tried either but I think they're the best options on banggood.
www.banggood.com/TransTEC-Freedom-215mm-4mm-3K-Carbon-Fiber-Frame-Kit-for-Multirotor-p-1182388.html?rmmds=search
www.banggood.com/XH210-210mm-Carbon-Fiber-3_5mm-Arm-Frame-Kit-for-Racing-Drone-p-1161966.html?rmmds=detail-bottom-viewalsoview
In your opinion, would 20A ESCs be too small for one of your hyperlite V4 2206 2522kv motors? Also would they (DYS XSD20A escs) fit in your hyperfloss frame? Could you tell me how thich the arm is?
kababfpv, i really appreciate that video. i am from chile (emm south america) and need that reference for start in the fpv. thanks again!
Thanks Kabab,
I had a lot of fun with the Blade 110 fpv, but i get only 2:30 Minutes Flight time on a 2s 800mah and only 1:30 Minutes flight time on 3s 500 mah. Would you recommend the up coming *Blade Therory XL 5 inch BNF*?
Lukas Post I honestly don't really recommend anything RTF. the torrent and babyhawlk just happen to be really fun.
was the fpv footage at the start with the fantom?? whatever drone you used it has amazing camera quality
+BovoM8 it was a GoPro.
I jumped right into it from a Walmart drone