Extreme Windows | The Future of Gaming
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- How stripped down can we get Windows to just game... Let me walk you through the set up.
Website Guide: christitus.com/setting-up-the...
Timestamps:
00:00 What we are doing
00:43 Starting Point
03:00 Decreasing Process Count Further
05:00 Installing APPX without Microsoft Store
07:35 Getting Gaming Dependancies
08:45 First Game Test - FFVI
11:42 Second Game Test - Cyberpunk 2077 Ultra Settings
16:40 The Future .
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It should be noted: Those gaming results aren't typical. There can be several contributing factors to those results:
1. Toms Hardware was using a less optimized and earlier version of Cyberpunk (before the benchmark was added)
2. There is a CP2077 LTT discovered where it did NOT apply the graphic setting presets, even through it said it did.
A debloat will net between 5-10% performance uplift, UNLESS your CPU is the bottleneck leading to lower performance, which those numbers can get higher.
*few things and queries*
>How did you do the graphics card pass through in an VM
>Name the VM software you used VM ware or virutalbox
>Can you provide the windows ISO you used
@@keerthyvash Look at the graphics card before passthrough, looks like KVM.
5-10% is really cool. Imaging buying more RAM or better cpu. This way you just do few tweaks.
Hello @ChrisTitusTech , been following you for a while now, thank you for the good content. I was wondering if you know about a tool to edit the context menu on Windows.
@@keerthyvash Proxmox is the better choice for bare-metal hypervisor. Virtualbox is a simple level 2 hypervisor; VMWare is nice but often overkill for simple tasks. Proxmox fills a good void. It supports passing video, storage, etc., controllers through.
I was waiting for this for so long, just got interested when you showed 40 processes in another vid of yours
There is a bug with CP2077 where the graphics settings are not applied correctly, unless you put each setting manually, otherwise it will default to a lower preset, that happened to Linus Tech tips in their 4090 review
That would make more sense, I'll have to run it again. That massive uptick in performance seemed too good to be true.
Sounds right. On Ultra I'm not getting north of 60FPS on a 3060Ti SSD 16GB with 5700x ...
@@ChrisTitusTech Yeah it's true you have to use a setting that makes the "apply" appear and then click it. Such as turn on DLSS hit apply then turn it back off then the settings will stick. It's quicker than going thru each one or restarting after each change.
@@ChrisTitusTech That is not what happens exactly, what happens is the game applies the right settings, but the presets also activate FSR, that is what is needed to change manually.
Yup. Well-known bug about it. Take a note on that FPS, not true. Lot of tester are not aware of this , even it is reported many times.
There is a huge flaw in your performance analysis against Tom's Hardware's numbers. The Tom's Hardware numbers are from Cyberpunk 2077's launch version (1.03) which came out back in December 10, 2020. Cyberpunk 2077 has seen a lot of bug fixes and performance optimizations since.
Also, one other thing to note is that Cyberpunk 2077's launch version didn't have an in-game benchmark, this was added with the Patch 1.50 earlier this year, in February. Tom's Hardware might've used a different location which is likely more demanding than the benchmark scene CDPR has chosen. That too is another thing to consider.
Edit: Looks like I was absolutely spot on about their choice of test location, to quote the Tom's Hardware article:
Our test is simple: We start near the entrance to V's apartment complex, down on the ground floor. Then we walk down the stairs, cross the street to the left, cross the next street to the right, and head off toward Tom's Diner. Turn left in front of the diner, across another street and up the stairs, and past the two cops talking to some irritated civilians. "But when the Tygers come around, you ain't nowhere to be found!" (I may have walked this path too many times.)
Furthermore, AMD"s drivers have matured, and if you use features like Resizable Bar, you can get even more performance out of the RX 5700 XT, especially when you're in CPU limited scenarios.
The best way for you to gauge the improvements is to actually compare it against an absolute stock Windows 10 ISO, run the games and compare its numbers against the stripped-down Windows 10 installation you've created. That's the only way for the benchmark numbers to be meaningful.
Love the work you're doing, looking forward to seeing where this all ends up.
I'd like to see this bench vs stock windows.
@@dullahangaming5107the reason why he didn't show it in this video is because you wont really have any performance boot. He is not dumb, by creating this video he definitively knew that is what we wanted to see
Cyberpunk 2077 has always been buggy and inefficient. I was amazed when it first came out that everyone believed it was just "So good it pushes the bounds of your graphics card" ... when the reality is the game has garbage optimization.
The trend in the industry has been, for decades, to write shittier and shittier code that runs like hot garbage and rely on hardware improvements to cover for the awful programming. Microsoft spearheaded this trend with Windows and now all the AAA gamers do it... they obviously won't fix the trend because people keep buying the hardware to play the "popular" games.
@@TurboLoveTrain you're confusing in game bugs with performance.
Great video as always... Think this process should be good to do at anytime, as you are stripping out the what can be removed without compromising the system. Also people can use this as a reference point to check off whats necessary and the unnecessary processes that are installed with some programs.
This is a life saver for computer that are usable and not old enought to be discarted! Thank you very much for all the work! you just save me two computers to use for my family.
Can't wait for more in depth tutorials on how to game on virtualized windows!
Thank you Chris. I have two tuxedo laptops one has to run Windos. Your tool and vids are helpful in keeping my system clean I’m not a windows guy so I’m very happy with your help. Greetings from the Netherlands
Always great stuff Chris thank you!
Love it. Huge fan of stripping out the bloat and harkening back to the days where a process list was more manageable.
The good old WinXP days 💪😎
I deleted almost all processes not from xp era, and it still worked, but without start and some other things
@@ArniesTech And also Windows 7, although Windows 7 are much less light compared to Windows XP
is there a download link?
Loved the video, keep videos like this in rotation
Love your work. Going back to windows 10 rn on a custom iso just bc this video motivated to do so
Hey Chris, Hope you're doing well, I would recommend and would like to see an alternative preset/version that preserves Wi-Fi connectivity, an extreme windows lite install is great but if you are wanting to do it on a laptop it would be crippling to not be able to take advantage of the built-in Wi-Fi functionality and the portability that comes with it.
Love these latest videos about taking the useless junk that comes with a standard windows install, purchased NTlite following your video and would love to see a video on how to make some good pre-sets to use . Also love your Linux videos.
This works wonders for my system. I tried it on already installed and bloated Windows, and it didn't work as I thought, so I reinstalled and then ran the utility, and my CPU went berserk with gaming and benchmark performance. I have a nearly 7% increase in overall performance and I have all the software that I have installed previously as of now. Thank you so much for the magic trick. I really owe you.
aGAIN & Again great work, we highly appreciate it, and applying it to our computers...
Can't wait until neXt Wednesday :)
I enjoy these debloat videos. I mainly run flight sims in VR, so extra processes in the background can make a difference. Tuning your rig is the best way to get the best performance and still have great immersion.
Hi Chris, I'm a fan of your work. This is amazing! More power.
Thank you so much Chris, what a hero!
Your app is insane :) much love
This video and program is awesome! Now, people can install most of the things they need when they installed windows 10/11! Plus, diasbling telemetry, edge, cortana is another amazing part. Thanks a lot man, I appreciate it ❤
Chris, when you upgrade to Zen4 you should make a passthrough tutorial, Zen4 has an integrated GPU, even with 2 CU's you can easily passthrough all the pictures to the host-system which come from the discrete graphics card in the virtual system. However, make sure that you then buy a motherboard with good IOMMU. In regard to this comparison with Tom's Hardware, take into consideration that updates might make the game perform the game better too.
I absolutely love this. I did just the basics and it dropped from 177 services to 65, Windows is much faster. Big thumbs up :)
Same
of course we liked it, and of course we want more :). great stuff man. Cheers and tks
WOW worked really well, have subscribed and bookmarked the video, amazing work !!!!
Really wish u have said what is removed and what functions we are losing with it.
As I understand it's seems you can choose what is removed so it's on you to pick the functions you're willing to lose
@@fabioalmeidajou not really bcos you dont know what each part does or what its links to
@@dim3nt0 man just try it out and see it for yourself, he even goes as far as explaining what everything is and does if you let the cursor stay on top of it
@@fabioalmeidajou i did try, multiple times. Thing is you dont miss big things, small thing are dealbraker. I dont want win7 or xp, w10 is wastly better experience and you lose some of that or much of that deleting everything from it. Its hard to remove all the bad stufd witout removing some.of goos stuff also.
He said he removed defender, Windows update, and the Microsoft store
something is seriously wrong with these abnormally high results. in my testing, debloating windows does not result with more than %3-%5 performance uplift. maybe its a bug in the game and the settings are not really set to ultra.
Someone mentioned a bug in C2077 that didn't apply settings correct even though it showed it did. Also those Tom's results I'm pretty sure were from an earlier version.
Either way, I'd say it is not typical to see that kind of jump.
@@ChrisTitusTech The Cyberpunk 2077 bug that LTT experienced (along with nearly every other media outlet apparently) is that you need to change a setting after changing the preset to get an "apply" button to save your changed settings. LTT and a few other outlets only changed the preset and never took the second step to get an "apply" button to save their settings so their benchmarks were ran on the default stock settings. (this isn't actually a bug, per se, just a shitty design choice that has been in the game since launch)
love that your still building on this !!!!!
I like this, a lot. Keep it up Chris.
I love these debloats, but I wish there was one tailored to Gamepass Ultimate gamers who need the dependencies for it. Or at least notes about what we would need to keep that Chris throws out.
did you manage to find the best settings while also keeping gamebar access?
Chris, I love it that you couldn't resist to emphasize that you don't use settings like film grain, motion blur, flares. I am with you on that! Especially those fake camera effects don't make any sense to me, the point is to not look through a camera but get immersed in the gaming-world. Also, TV and movies are not as popular as those once were.
please PLEASE more for gaming/3d developers/video editors/content creators
The main issue is so many are tied to windows for software compatibility, but then miss out on performance from all the bloat.
This is the perfect solution.
Would also be even better going over setting up a system backup at a clean state, to revert to. I need to check out your other videos.
It should be noted, bold and underlined in flashing letters, that debloating windows usually affects its stability and future compatibility with updates. Windows is NOT modular. You cannot forcefully remove something from the OS and expect it to keep working perfectly forever. Only do this if you are not afraid of having ocasional bluescreens, app crashes, missing things, failed windows updates and etc. While this can be useful, do this at your own risk. Don't call Windows "unstable" if you try to always debloat it to the max.
Still, great video for those who really want it (and understand the risks)!
Microsoft itself should provide something like this "only for gaming"... A version they don't run st*pid background apps and collect our data and other tons of sh**ty background things. I would love to pay for it $10 a month if I see a huge performance increase on my system during gaming
I forget which, but some popular fps game anticheat required windows smart screen to work. Anticheats are always the biggest problem for me when cleaning up windows.
I absolutely hate smartscreen. I'd never play a game that depended on it. They can go pound sand.
@@ChrisTitusTech It was probably either valorant or a third party csgo anticheat, so very popular games sadly
@@BAMB00STER4EVER valorant doesn't require it lol. Running it on fully debloated win 10
@@alkaupadhyay7650 Probably faceit anticheat then. Valorant had a problem with seemingly stable cpu overclocks though.
@@BAMB00STER4EVER Valorant doesn't require anything to work, is a kernel level anticheat, can't bebunisntalled unless you fully format your disk.
Thanks for sharing this. Need it to do this on a bunch of laptops at work.
Nice video mate! Subscribed.
Holy crap on a cracker! I haven't done any tweaks on my home system in awhile. I work and game on my home system, RDP into work..etc. I had about 250 processes when I had everything open during work hours that I normal do. This is now down to 150 with everything open. I am definitely going to look into this when we role out desktop refresh this year. Thanks for this! Just subbed.
have to agree, winxp and 2000 were the best highest performing OS. win 7 wasn't bad either
Thanks dude this really helped me a lot I did the steps that's you did thanks man!
Thanks for updating the old windows 10 debloater tool to modern version and I'll download and test to see any differences
Hi Chris, I really appreciate your effort that u put in making this useful win utility, keep up the good work! Just one question: why do u have to change my boot menu if disable telemetry is checked ? can u just get rid of that string that I believe it isn't related to telemetry... and moreover it will NOT be reverted if I click UndoALL tweaks....
Write-Host "Enabling F8 boot menu options..."
bcdedit /set `{current`} bootmenupolicy Legacy | Out-Null
Waiting on that GPU passthrough video
Keep it up bro you're the hero we need
This is beyond helpful. Looking forward to dialing in my system dealing with micro stutters and its hard for me to diagnose/isolate.
the biggest problem with that debloat is, sometimes i had a problems with steam games, i couldn't start them because some files were missing, or system wasn't stable, fps dropped and got stutters, im not saying that debloat is bad, it's great but i have encountered some problems, and had to reinstall after
My main question which I also hope you adress. How much maintenance does this take? The main issue with debloating in extremes is not that it's too hard but that usually some work is undone with simple updates which take priority for security.
Also I find there's a little bit missing information on what exactly is getting debloated. Like personally I'd prefer keeping Windows Defender.
I'm not an avg user...but not a educated power user. I'm in the middle. I'd love to have like a middleroad in this.
Great video man!
I'm not sure how updated the graph is but the game fps increase might be because of the updates from CDPR and driver updates from AMD, the game was very unoptimized at release. Love your vids keep up the good work!
I highly recommend trimming down windows. By and large it won't significantly impact your FPS, but it will noticeably improve smoothness. NTLite is a great tool allowing you to strip out core subsystems like windows update and services which the system doesn't allow you do stop. The result is a system that is fast and frozen in time.
is there a way to manually install windows updates, some of those security updates are important.
I wouldnt recommned stoping windows updates since it fix vulnerabilieties of system from getting exploited
or just don't do it, it's not worth your time unless you don't got alot of storage space
Looking forward to the next one. Have to ask though, at this point isn't it just better to game on Linux instead? That much of a heavy debloat makes Win10 very impractical for a daily driver machine (security and stability-wise). Not everyone can do the pass-through thing, and dual-booting just for gaming is annoying at least.
As someone that does a dual boot. Performance is definitely worse on Linux by about 15%. I let my pc boot into Linux by default as I mainly go to TH-cam and Reddit. But when it's gaming time, gotta switch to windows really. Maybe not if it's a low graphics game
Thanks for your work!
Outstanding. I would love to see the laptop version debloat.
Your tool is pretty awesome. I used the "Desktop" preset only unchecking the GameDVR option (Because I do not know and do not want to mess anything up) and voila! running processes went from 205 to 110 in next reboot. Subscribing to you now! Would love to see more such videos. Please do Win 11 22H2 next.
gamedvr is the xbox app. specifically the recording part of the xbox app.
youre awesome bro thank you. thumbs up for more
My windows 7 laptop is currently running 69 processes, with just firefox running. main reason i am watch your videos is i plan to built a new system with win10 and i want it to be as much like my win7 systems as is reasonable, i'd be happyish with mid 80 processes. Thanks for all the videos, take care, God bless one and all.
Only a debloated Windows is a good Windows. However don't overdo it as many things require each other and could cause instabilities 🙏💪
well said
you are so cool for even making something like this :D
Very nice update, thanks
Would love to see a before and after FPS in a game or two. Curious as to the difference in 1% and 0.1%.
You want more fps lower your graphic settings
@@flipinfin 🤦
@@DrNooberious ??? You got pro players on 20k setups using low settings. This tutorial is for bots he isn't even a gamer. Your FPS depends on your Hardware
@@flipinfin Pros play on low settings for the highest fps possible. Reducing the number of active processes in windows can and does increase fps, mainly the 1% and 0.1% lows, or stutter as some call it.
I am curious if their is any tangible fps difference in windows 11 normal vs debloated hence why I left the comment.
@@DrNooberious Its all personal preference. Some want graphics over FPS nothing is wrong with that. Though as a gamer with a decent rig debloating software isn't going to decrease your FPS in a far margin. Hence you can disable background apps lol disable game bar.
If you a have a Nvidia GPU go to your 3d settings and and lower the settings tons of TH-cam videos.
I just used pro players as an example cuz some has the best hardware money can buy and still play on low settings.
Future? I don't think so. Windows is the PAST of everything it touches.
Your toolbox is just great and your videos are awesome
I was JUST looking for an updated guide yesterday! Gotta get windows to a bare minimum to run destiny on my steam deck!
$32,000 weekly profit Our lord Jesus have lifted up my Life!!!
Huh! I invested in nothing and got rewarded being happy.
That "better part of the day" to make things work needs to be mentioned more by more people ....
That's great - thanks a lot for this
subscribed, just because youre doing what i want to do :D
Cool. Thanks for sharing.
4:47 "lets lower our resolution"
Proceeds to make it bigger 😂
Wow, This is mind-blowing 😮😯😲
awesome, me and my kids only use widows for gaming, steam and epic and of course minecraft . anything that can help improve there gaming fun is appreciated. thanks for all the hours and hard work you and others have put into the widows tool kit . its great thanks.
You might wanna checkout atlas os custom windows iso
The Best of the best
i always watch your videos, you describe well Everything is understandable
Keep it up
God bless you ♥ ♥ ♥
This is amazing! Bought my computer 6 months ago and after a few updates my windows was stuttering all over the place I don't have much stuff installed so did a clean install disabled windows updates it runs much better but once in a while I can still feel some stuttering, I didn't even knew this was possible, do I need to do the clean install again for this to work?
Great video!
This is beyond helpful. Lookimg forward to dialing in my system dealomg with micro stutters and its hard for me to diagnose/isolate.
Thanks Chris!
Great video man, but after running your recommended tweaks and restarted. I've found just browsing my PC runs into weird graphical issues. Never happened before only while browsing or doing random stuff. Think their is a specific setting that might be causing this?
Hey Chris. I noticed a technical issue with your website. When you switch on Dark Mode, hyperlinks become completely hidden in your Twitter highlight section and the links within normal content lose their coloring and no longer visually show as links.
Great work Thank you
Chris, did you use the GamerOS preset to make the iso used in this video?
thanks
thank you for this!
Thanks bro, I went from 135-140 processes minimum & 150 processes average to 79-86 processes minimum & 95 processes average on windows 10
I used another debloater (Still used yours), it didn't give me much more space, but it did decrease the ram usage by 200 megabytes and brought the minimum processes 77-83 & 94 processes average
I killed some tasks with task manager and set some tasks to low priority and it got my minimum procceses down to 75-81 & 90 processes average
I still like to use some of the microsoft apps and have some security features on (I downloaded some fishy stuff a few years back) so I didnt get as low as you, but I went from 5.5gb left to 22gb left on my c drive
amazing video
perfect like always !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I'd like to see more on the debloated ISO. Yes, I've seen the other videos, but I never seem to get it quite right. There's always some stuff that could have been removed or something that doesn't work as expected.
You have a best tool for windows ever ! Big thanks for that sir 🙏
Yeah the best for breaking OS
Excelente! Gracias.
So clean... nice
Hey Chris! Always love you stuff and helps me with my problem of always re installing my OS for no reason 😅. I did have a quick question if, do you have any resources I could use to learn about making GUI with powershell/ps1 files? Thank you!
PowerShell Studio
@@sadmatch41 Thank you 🙏
Love this!
That's so good thanks
Curious to know how well that would perform on a Linux build with Proton. I'm assuming Linux would have less processes running in the background out-of-the-box but adding proton would add a little more. Has anyone ever did a Benchmark comparing different Linux distros on the same hardware? Using games that are using Proton and Linux native games?
hey chris, ty for this video, I'm struggling with NTlite to set it up for a multi edition iso, did you ever figure this out or even tryed it? If yes, could you pls make a follow up on this video?
thank u so much bro
good video, how is your cpu at 0 degrees?
thanks for this, will be checking it out on test. hey idea, how about on the Tools, change the color of "already installed" stuff? not gray out the checkbox, just make it visibly different
Hey Chris, thank you for all the things I learned through your content, love your videos 🙏 can I use your tool to deblote my W11? It isn't a clean install, that's why I'm asking
Yes, it won't get as low in the video, but will still make a big impact.
@@ChrisTitusTech thank you Chris, appreciated 🙏using the Utility as we speak 👌
This man is genius! thank you !
Thank you!
Thank for the tool you're making with all the contributors, you make life a lot easier! Also I wanted to ask what do you thibk of Windows 10 IoT (2021) Is it worth using as a desktop to increase system performance even further?
60 processes down. Noice! Thanks Chris!
Depends on the game & screen but with World of Warcraft in particular I found that running at 65 FPS had less screen tearing than running at 23-64fps 60hz. I've noticed similar across multiple systems as well. Course I've never had a G-Sync screen & I usually play with V-Sync off on games that are demanding.