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When Are LVL15 Kinsects WORTH IT?! | Monster Hunter Rise Sunbreak
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0:00 - Intro
1:13 - Assist Kinsects
3:10 - Sever Assist Kinsects
4:04 - Status Kinsect Effects
5:04 - Powder Kinsects
5:35 - Speed Kinsects
7:32 - Summary
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CORRECTION AND SUGGESTION CHANGE!: Hey Everyone. Apologies for this one mistake. I overlooked the poor translation - "HEALS" on kinsect does not mean amount of your health regen - It is the kinsect stamina regen speed.
Suggestion Change: Instead of those who use recall kinsect, I would suggest POWDER KINSECT USERS to consider the lvl15 kinsect - the more powders you can produce faster, the larger your dmg will be and quicker paralysis stuns. Assist Kinsects thus have very little to no benefits from lvl15 since you usually give enough time before another heavy attack.
Complete oversight on my part. Thank you to those who pointed out the error in the comments. I'll do better.
While Kinsect levels are fine, a part of me misses breeding Kinsects and get all whacky effects. I remember back in Generations I used the Ukanlos IG a lot because you could make a Kinsect that give a a whopping 30% affinity when grabbing a white extract, nullifying the negative affinity of the weapon and it was very fun to use. Things like made me wish we had nectars back, just not as convoluted as 4U
balance kinsect giving a party boost was fun too. I wish we had something like that in SB to be able to play more of a support role with IG.
@@melovech6675 Yeah, it would be really good to have that
Kinsects in general were wild back in GU, lol. On top of the speed one that gave you 30% affinity and the balance one giving party buffs, there was the attack one that allowed red extract to restore weapon sharpness every time you collected it. And then there was my personal favorite, the weight kinsect, giving you high-grade earplugs and hero armor with orange extract and adding a phial-like burst on every kinsect hit.
Also the fact that you could pick out the exact stats you wanted for kinsects back then was pretty sweet too
So you don't use materials to feed them to the bugs to change them and raise stats?
@@kokayinewsome9308 when you collected nectars back in the 4U to gen u, you could upgrade the kinsect to different kinsect trees to get the bug you want.
The heal stat is just how fast they regenerate stamina while on your arm :)
Thank you! Complete oversight on my part. I have made a correction post and will add an annotation to the video. Apologies and once again, thanks for pointing this out!
it doesn't affect the heal amount on dust clouds or the heal amount on recall kinsect?
Very thorough and informative as always!
Another interesting thing to keep in mind about the new speed kinsects is that they retain charge after awakened kinsect attack, while the chain attack versions donât. So kinsect throw with kinsect slash as a follow up can do about 150 extra damage with foliacath compared to grancathar on a high element weapon.
Thank you for this info! Love you vids too
Very informative as always! I'm not a particularly good IG user, but I've been messing around with speed kinsects just for fun and I've found something interesting.
Speed kinsects do extra damage when doing kinsect slash if they are changed in the same way they would do it if you were to just send them flying to attack the monster, right? Well, not really. Apparently, kisect slash interacts in an interesting way with "chain attack" kinsects. Usually, they do a bunch of smaller attacks instead of a big one. However, with kinsect slash, they do a big attack (comparable to that of other "charged" speed kinsects) and they they follow up with their chain attack. I've done some quick testing in the training room and I've found that chain-attack kinsects consistently do the highest damage when doing aerial combos because of this charged attack.
I know that speed kinsects are considered pretty much a meme, but I thought it was a cool interaction and I would love to hear what more experienced IG users think!
Informative video!
However, just want to confirm, I believe âHealâ refers to how fast a Kinsect can regenrate stamina right, and not how much it can heal you with Recall Kinsect. This is in base Rise, was this changed in Sunbreak?
No, youâre absolutely right, no change afaik (but then again I only got base Rise a couple weeks before Sunbreak, but it still seems to work like that)
No you are correct! That was an oversight on my part. I completely forgot about that poor translation (It tricked me a year ago in base Rise and got me again T__T ) I have made a pinned post for the correction and suggestion change. I'll add an annotation to the video. Thank you for pointing this out!
Thank you thank you!!!! This is something I've been thinking about because I only like glaives with level 15 but was wondering if it was even worth it, thanks again âïļðŠ
im offended 0.09 D:
Thank you for the video NODDERS
LOOL The truth hurts hahaha
Glad speed is getting some love. They are very fun to use
With regards to status insect glaives, do the severed kinsects also do more status damage like they do element? Would it be worth it to use a speed severing kinsect in this case or stick with blunt for multiple effects?
I need the answers to these too!!
that clip at the start: in what world would Diving Wyvern not be a better option? Diving Wyvern does more damage than awakened kinsect attack and imo is WAY easier to set up- you just need to dodge away from a monster and you'll always be able to easily jump back in with kinsect slash. why are people acting as though Awakened Kinsect doesn't do half the damage of Diving Wyvern for a more complex set up requiring you to be vulnerable on the ground? am I going crazy here?
"Finally, something for Speed Kinsect users to rejoice about"
Ah yes. I can hear both of them crying out in joy!
(I joke, but sure, I'll give Lv. 15 Ele Foliacath a try!)
Been having non-meta silly fun with the kinsects as main focus and was wondering if any skills affect them in any way. Things like slugger, stamina thief, partbreaker... anything else? You already ruled out element up for boosting sever kinsect elemental damage. Does ANY skill affect them in any way?
Sadly no. They're pretty much fixed values. I've tested Slugger myself and it didn't change any values or if it did, it's so small you won't notice it until a fourth or fifth knock on a monster and at most it's one extra hit.
Haven't tested partbreaker myself honestly but given most skills don't work, I'll assume it doesn't. I'll give it a check sometime this week and get back if I find anything
Facts on the trust.
Personally I prefer being able upgrade kinsects.
Psudeocath moth downright spoiled me with it's speed in world now I can't use any kinsect other than the one with the fastest speed whenever I play IG
wow, this is such good info
Whyâs the weapon not called Kinsect Glaive?
Seems like the best bugs in World are the same ones here in Rise
AWESOME
when you do vids like this, it would be nice if you could show footage of you doing the testing so we can see the damage numbers.
obvs, we could test it and see for ourselves (which is what i hope people actively try to do after watching vids like this) but i think it would just help the vid be more informative compared to using hunt footage.
Thank you for the feedback! I'll try to show some for my future videos. Thank you so much. :)
@@SkySenseiVB no worries, man! will definitely find the time to test the speed kinsects out.
Let me know if Iâm wrong but I was very much certain that the wording on the kinsects arenât great and heal doesnât have anything to do with healing you (aka recall wirebug), but how fast it recharges itâs stamina
ahhhh It appears so. I'm making a pinned post about it. My bad on error - that is a very poor translation but either way I should not have overlooked that. Thanks for the clarification!
@@SkySenseiVB Yeah them calling it "heal" threw me off at first too and was kinda misleading xD
makes me wonder about World's now tbh
For powder, is there any reason to run sever instead of blunt?
The Rarity 7 Sever Powder Kinsect is the blast kinsect. It also has much more dmg than the blunt one. So while lady tower can KO and para, Bilbo does almost double the dmg on vortex bombs plus blast procs.
â@@SkySenseiVB True true, but I'm guessing the slash itself doesn't do anything special in the way it does for assist kinsects and element. Thanks for the reply and for the excellent video :)
Iâm just out here using the base Kinsect for bonus heal ð
Chad Gamer vibes honestly ð
I am on xbox how do you awaken kinsects? Heavy or light attack.
Itâs a sunbreak switch skill
I'm currently using the narga IG with a crit build and ofc with no elemetns on my weapon
I've tried many kinsects and want to use a rarity 7 one but I don't know which is the best for non-elemental weapon
I like all kinsect tbh but im curious of what do you guys think is the ''best''
For non-element, any of the blunt kinsects work well. Deciding which one kinda comes down to play style in my opinion. speed will get you KOs very quick, Powder will deal good dmg, but also get KOs and Paralysis stuns, Assist will take longer to get a KO but its the least hassle, easy to keep your buffs up with the new bonus, and still adds good dmg
So for most kinsects Level 14 doesn't mean a dead build, even for powder nuke build? Sweet.
RIP Funlance, stuck in the max level shelling gulag again.
So mean
I play with non max shelling level gunlance all the time and still clear regular quests in 10 mins and afflicted in 20 usually. There's really no need to eek out every bit of damage possible in this game right now. Some of the title updates will likely require more optimized builds but I feel like the current community obsession with max dps is a bit misguided and limiting people's experience with the game which is unfortunate. Just my two cents anyway
@@joshmay2944 Oh, it's not that rough? Good to know. I'd heard that the difference was some huge amount, is all.
@@FelisImpurrator if your playstle focuses on shelling damage I've heard it's pretty significant, like 10% but even then you're talking about a 10 minute hunt taking 11 mins instead which I don't find much of an issue personally.
@@joshmay2944 Ah. The figure I saw was something insane like 22%. If it's just 10% I agree it's not worth metaslaving over, and Bullet Barrage spam and nothing else sounds like an unfun playstyle anyway.
How do you unlock level 15 kinsect at the smithy ?
They come with Sunbreak but kinsect level is determined by your weapon, not by kinsects. So the weapons you use, in their description, it'll show what kinsect lvl you have
Tbh I'm expecting capcom to let you change kinsect type/special ability with next title update
By type I mean let them switch between speed assist and powder freely and also let you pick associated abilities that come with it like have bullshrouds ability on the foliacath
I've wanted Kinsect Transmog as well, would be nice to change their colors if we could. ðĪ
Thats bad game design since it basically removes meaningful opportunity cost. While it might seem great, it will kill diversity in the long run
@@username-ql8ox no it wont as people are just gonna go with META choice anyway!
with what i have just said it just means that you can have the kinsect design you want with the special ability you want (within the same class), say i want a speed kinsect for my glaive, i like the windchoppers design but the grancathar ability (charged chain attack) they are both speed kinsects the only thing you are doing is changing the special ability.
The stats are irrelevant since its based on kinsect level and they are close enough its not a gamechanger. (literally the only difference would be a few points in speed power or heal based on rarity)
Im not talking about having a assist kinsect with a speed kinsect ability, that would be insane!
Idealistically its just more of a cosmetic design thing BUT realisitcally with what the onster hunter showcase showed with this level system the kinsects might need to get more damage for the level 80+ monsters so it completely makes sense to modify kinsects!
Wait you can upgrade your kinsect?
How did you do 1:14 dodge?
That's the dodge that follows a scroll swap. So if you switch scrolls and then click your dodge button while pushing a directional key, you will do a hop as such. Its a really nice feature actually!
@@SkySenseiVB Oh that's in the DLC, thank you!
How to unlock lvl 15 kinsect?
Only certain glaives have lvl15. There is no unlock feature, just some of them have them and some don't.
I really enjoy your content. But your logo, this big orange "SS" is extremely sus. Now, I'd like to just assume it's a coincidence and innocent enough. But you can't really assume that these days. So sadly I'm gonna be avoiding your content. If I'm wrong, good luck to you.
Hey! I totally understand. It really is a big coincidence. When I rebranded years ago, Sky Sensei just had 2 S letters and I put em together and back then I played Overwatch and had been a sniper so that is where the logo inspiration came from. I really had no idea what it was similar to and was told about it after a year. I apologize if it did offend or hurt you - it definitely is not my intention and I 100% do not stand for anything that would hurt others. I do plan to rebrand in the near future. Once again, my apologies if it did offend you.
@@SkySenseiVB I appreciate that a lot, thank you. This response was extremely heartening. I look forward to seeing what you do in the future.