1:02 I love how the line washes over Don: he hears it, he considers it, the full impact of it hits him, he feels the relief of knowing they've found it. We know it's perfect, Ginsberg knows it's perfect, it's all conveyed non-verbally.
@@90boyle Yeah but unless your just a total absolute gamma bitch you can still acknowledge and give credit when another man accomplishes something or builds something or in this case to a lesser extent thinks of something creative ya know. And despite Dons flaws hes not a gamma...just a Godless immoral schmuck degenerate...but not a Gamma!. For clarification a Gamma is what is known as a "beta" but is the more proper technical term on the sexual hierarchy scale/list. For example a Gamma is- see any Antifa weirdo ever, or twitter troll soy faced goblin boys who talk about letting there gf's screw other dudes while they watch etc- for modern day examples.
@@Josh-fp2qn It's because they're alike in many ways, Michael is what could have been Dick, had he not stolen another man's identity. They both are great at what they do, and are also neurotic and paranoid, with Michael being more so near the end.
@@ericwilliams626 You got it wrong. It was a maneuver statement. He intruded in Don's schedule unannounced, by asking that he basically made it clear that now Don wanted him there. He was pitching.
@@ericwilliams626 as far as I'm concerned I'm replying to a tiger. I care about the words on my computer's screen. So, I'm going to translate for everybody else to see what you just said: "I want to look like Don, here's my cute copy and pasted reply"
Something that is so subtle but yet powerfull in the show is the sound design. Even in this clip with bad quality you can hear how smooth and silky the voices, and the background noices are.
And the staccato rumble of the old typewriters punctuated by the occasional old style horn. You could remove all of the dialogue and still know you were watching a show set in a NYC skyscraper office in the 60s-70s. So well done.
It wasn't that he was more talented, it's that Ginsberg was stylistically very different from Don. Don's advertising focus tended towards this thoughtful/philosophical approach, while Ginsberg's approach was funny/irreverent. Both are very good. This pitch was unusual, because it showed Ginsberg doing a Don Draper-type of ad, and hitting a complete homerun with it. Don acknowledges how excellent the idea was.
@@curvytangerine Ginsberg's? Yes, that's the point. Ginsberg not only did a great tagline, but one of the type that Don would normally do. It was a nice moment between these two talented men who had been a little at odds before.
I think the writers wrote Ginsberg's eventual descent into madness as a reference to the poem "Howl" (written by Allen Ginsberg from the beatnik era). In that poem, there's a monster called Moloch who is a gargantuan machine and (iirc) humanity becomes enslaved to it. Fitting and prophetic if you ask me...
I was in marketing and sometimes I just get the chills watching some of these scenes. this scene is fantastic and the tobacco scene is fantastic. Both scenes I get chills at my spine. The brilliance behind the verbiage, the pitch, the hook. It is truly a beautiful thing to hear and see.
Mad Men got a little bit aggravating in its last few seasons (as it continued to be the "Don Draper makes the same mistakes" show), but the work was always good. I loved when they focused on the creativity and effort that goes into making something effective and memorable. The Carousel pitch is a thing of poetry.
there’s some kind of a subtext from 0:15 to 0:19. Ginsberg is basically describing Don as the “asshole” (having a lot of beautiful things like women, cars, money, career, etc.) Despite Don having everything, what he has will never be enough, and that’s why the Jaguar pitch was so powerful because Don’s personality resonated so much with the message of the ad.
@@yommish He’s also subconsciously referring to the women he’s slept with. If you actually watched the series, you’d notice a lot of the lines have double meanings.
@@AnnaLVajda That was kind of the point in the episode, especially with the deal they made with Joan. And to go even grosser, less as slaves and more as objects.
I ran into (the actor who plays) Ginsberg at DFW airport baggage collection on my first day in the states. He was wearing a cap so when he noticed me noticing him he smiled and went his way with his bag. Unlike Don, I do think about him.
I loved Ginsberg. I thought the show did his character dirty by making him go completely insane. I thought they should’ve played up a rivalry between himself and Peg. It would’ve been a great subplot.
Better at tag lines and concepts maybe, but not better in the room. And if you tried to send Ginsberg on a few high profile client dinners, I think you'd regret it.
@@mik9napkin598 I thinks that’s one of the interesting things the show explores. The people who are most successful are the best salesmen. Roger is a great example- he really does nothing, but he charms clients and everyone likes him and he’s always at the top of the heap. But he’s virtually useless in the office, to the point that it’s a running joke. Don kinda realizes he’s more of a salesman than a true creative- which is why I think he derives less and less pleasure from his job. He can sell Ginsburg vision better than anyone, but at the end of the day, he’s totally dependent on those creatives. I think that contributes to his “nothing I do matters” crisis.
@@kahlilgarcia768 well said. The show set out to dramatize the creative process - something rarely attempted - but they also managed to dramatize the job of sales and accounts as well. And how nobody is strong in every position. All have moments where they shine or falter. I always thought Kenny was an odd duck. He was a published sci fi writer - a skill that demands a potent imagination - and yet he was often shown as creatively tone-deaf in the office and meetings. Curious…
@@mik9napkin598 I always felt like people liked Ken well enough, so he just was kept around. Which is definitely an office archetype. The guy who is kind of meh, but chill and well liked by everyone. I always thought Ken never cared too much about his job- which is why the Ford guys pissed him off. Because he literally lost an eye for a job he never wanted to invest that much in. Contrast that with Harry, who was dumb and despised by everyone, but was 100 percent at the right place, at the right time, and kept getting promoted as a result. The show’s breakdown of office politics and how Capitalism empowers certain skillsets and personalities is so rich. I can rewatch this series endlessly and always find something new.
The three most terrifying moments of owning a jaguar: realizing you have to pay over MSRP to buy one today, going in for your first non warranty covered service bill invoice, selling it for half the cost you paid for it.
Love mine. Bought floor model, 2019 model year, spring 2021 at very nice discount, and 6 year 100,000 mile warranty, and includes annual maintenance. No issues one year in, and if I sold today I'd actually not lose any money.
You can count on one hand the number of times Don got wowed by a line. Peggy a few times, and Ginsy here
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As much as I love this scene, it´s kind of a spoiler for the pitch itself, later on. Maybe they should´ve cut after Don said "But what´s the line?". But that was something they did many times in Mad Men, we see the creative process and then we see the pitch to the client.
no, it would have been more distracting, because the actual pitch is about the intercutting between joan's sacrifice and the pitch, past and present. the point of the episode is not the tagline.
The real challenge as a creative in advertising isn't always selling the idea to the client, most of the times is selling the idea to the creative director. I think that was always the deal with Don's team storylines, it wasn't about the final product, it was about how done approved that final product.
So sad that the later season's weren't really about the business anymore but about Don's soul searching. Scenes like this are the reason why we all got hooked.
It’s so true. I think Mad Men committed one of the ultimate sins in that it made its main character unlikeable after awhile. Or I should say, Don was never the most likable person, but he was infinitely interesting to watch.
Those later seasons were so filled with the personal stuff that when it ended I had wished the series as a whole would've spent more time in the ad agency and doing actual work like this. The latter seasons swamped my whole perception of the show so when I went back five years later and rewatched the first two seasons, I was amazed at how much actual work they were doing.
Don's character eventually migrates to California which mirrored the shift from NYC to LA. All the songwriters from The Brill Building moved west. The era of the Mad Men was over. TV, Nielsens, direct marketing and ultimately Silicon Valley displaces a lot of creative and Don's character reflects that.
none of the comments here are talking about the really brilliant subtext here. "I know you forbid us from thinking about the mistress, but..." Ginsberg is of course referring to when Don told the creative team to stop using the word "mistress" in their ideas for the Jaguar copy. But Ginsberg doesn't say "the mistress idea" or "the word mistress," just "the mistress". Because he's talking about Megan as well.
They left too many loose ends with his character. It seemed like his father had some kind of legal case he was fighting (maybe he was blacklisted?) and needed his son’s help, what was the case?
i always took that to be his father just being crazy (feel like its common for mentally disturbed people to constantly be embroiled in wacky lawsuits) to foreshadow Michael unfortunately inheriting it
He is a lot smarter and brighter than Don. He could have led the team taking over Peggy's potition in a couple of years.. But Don has too much of an ego to let another man potentially taking his place rise above the occasion
They realized after a few episodes that they'd made him too good and thus threatened Don's leading position. So he goes insane. They couldve gotten more mileage by having become a competitor.
i actualy really fucking hated that tagline Ginsberg came up with. its too long and its not inspiring to take action. as someone who works in advertising, when i first watched this episode, i came up with about 10 in my head that were supremely better.
I guess Don was impressed and liked it? Hard to tell. I'd have thought his reaction was, "What a fucking stupid line. [And it is.] ]If you come in here like that again I'll make you chew on your own shrivelly pipsqueak balls, kid."
It's a bit awkward, but not dumb (e.g. you can't or shouldn't really "own" beautiful people and can't own beautiful moments and so on). What am I supposed to think about it again? It's probably supposed to be pure crap, but will have to watch again. In any case, I find it too much and distracting how that guy says "asshole" in the beginning. It's the wrong emphasis or pronunciation, I think. Too "literal"-sounding...
1:02 I love how the line washes over Don: he hears it, he considers it, the full impact of it hits him, he feels the relief of knowing they've found it. We know it's perfect, Ginsberg knows it's perfect, it's all conveyed non-verbally.
I like scenes like this where Don acknowledges Ginsberg talent and isn't all insecure about it.
Don is panicked.
@@90boyle Yeah but unless your just a total absolute gamma bitch you can still acknowledge and give credit when another man accomplishes something or builds something or in this case to a lesser extent thinks of something creative ya know. And despite Dons flaws hes not a gamma...just a Godless immoral schmuck degenerate...but not a Gamma!. For clarification a Gamma is what is known as a "beta" but is the more proper technical term on the sexual hierarchy scale/list. For example a Gamma is- see any Antifa weirdo ever, or twitter troll soy faced goblin boys who talk about letting there gf's screw other dudes while they watch etc- for modern day examples.
@@danielhicks4826 bro this is a mad men clip lmao
@@danielhicks4826 You sound like a gamma.
@@bignasty389 you believe in that shit?
The two happiest days in a Jaguar owners life........the day they get it and the day the get rid of it.
Just like chlamydia
just like a boat .... haha
Just like a hot chick who is annoying as hell
Just like a woman...
@@classicsmajor9699 Lmao felt this
"it's very hard to get things done with you in another room."
"well obviously i have the opposite feeling"
is one of the best burns in the series
Up there with "I don't think about you at all"
Don is always so insecure around this little man.
@@Josh-fp2qn It's because they're alike in many ways, Michael is what could have been Dick, had he not stolen another man's identity. They both are great at what they do, and are also neurotic and paranoid, with Michael being more so near the end.
He was so successful he later started his own law firm in Silicon Valley after his stint at New York.
I heard his son is sort of a douchebag though, he's a good partner of the firm though
Yeah, but he endup working as a cashier on an Target lookalike company.
He started smoking alot more weed I've heard
Later he got caught up in a SuperStore because of his career fell apart
That's who he is. He looks exactly the same but his characters are so different you barely recognize him
“So I can go on.” Great way to neuter Don’s power in the interaction.
That wasn't a question. It was a statement of don't interrupt me again. Let me finish. This is what we expect in polite society.
How so?
@@ericwilliams626 You got it wrong. It was a maneuver statement. He intruded in Don's schedule unannounced, by asking that he basically made it clear that now Don wanted him there. He was pitching.
@@DeMenteMinds You think about what I say too much. I don't think about you at all.
@@ericwilliams626 as far as I'm concerned I'm replying to a tiger. I care about the words on my computer's screen. So, I'm going to translate for everybody else to see what you just said: "I want to look like Don, here's my cute copy and pasted reply"
Something that is so subtle but yet powerfull in the show is the sound design. Even in this clip with bad quality you can hear how smooth and silky the voices, and the background noices are.
And the staccato rumble of the old typewriters punctuated by the occasional old style horn. You could remove all of the dialogue and still know you were watching a show set in a NYC skyscraper office in the 60s-70s. So well done.
Don always knew Ginsberg was good. Too bad he went insane.
Don was insecure due to Ginsberg's talent actually
@Buttrape Bill deep down he knew Ginsberg was more talented than him, yeah, despite his nasty 'I don't think of you at all' remark.
It wasn't that he was more talented, it's that Ginsberg was stylistically very different from Don. Don's advertising focus tended towards this thoughtful/philosophical approach, while Ginsberg's approach was funny/irreverent. Both are very good. This pitch was unusual, because it showed Ginsberg doing a Don Draper-type of ad, and hitting a complete homerun with it. Don acknowledges how excellent the idea was.
@@bearcat648 was this tagline not thoughtful/philosophical?
@@curvytangerine Ginsberg's? Yes, that's the point. Ginsberg not only did a great tagline, but one of the type that Don would normally do. It was a nice moment between these two talented men who had been a little at odds before.
I loved this character. Too bad they made him go nuts
Yeah, they started him off as quirky, with Peggy obviously thinking he was nuts, and then they rolled into it as a way to get him off the show.
He went crazy in 15 minutes period. Guess they were in a hurry to get rid of him 🙃
@@mattkossuth3008 yeh it was rushed, wasn't it
I guess the writers couldn't deal with the reality that he was better than don.
I think the writers wrote Ginsberg's eventual descent into madness as a reference to the poem "Howl" (written by Allen Ginsberg from the beatnik era). In that poem, there's a monster called Moloch who is a gargantuan machine and (iirc) humanity becomes enslaved to it. Fitting and prophetic if you ask me...
I was in marketing and sometimes I just get the chills watching some of these scenes. this scene is fantastic and the tobacco scene is fantastic. Both scenes I get chills at my spine. The brilliance behind the verbiage, the pitch, the hook. It is truly a beautiful thing to hear and see.
Mad Men got a little bit aggravating in its last few seasons (as it continued to be the "Don Draper makes the same mistakes" show), but the work was always good. I loved when they focused on the creativity and effort that goes into making something effective and memorable. The Carousel pitch is a thing of poetry.
So, any books on the marketing you would recommend ?
@@Unownshipper I actually cried a little seeing that pitch. It was perfection.
not in this one. its crap.
also kodak carousel episode, whole episode
Don is just like, FUCK this is so good. I love Ginzo.
there’s some kind of a subtext from 0:15 to 0:19. Ginsberg is basically describing Don as the “asshole” (having a lot of beautiful things like women, cars, money, career, etc.) Despite Don having everything, what he has will never be enough, and that’s why the Jaguar pitch was so powerful because Don’s personality resonated so much with the message of the ad.
That was the intent. Lmao
Yeah, Megan was supposed to be his Jaguar. Watching Season 5 again and seeing that parallel even clearer was great stuff.
What is happiness? It's a moment before you need more happiness.
there's subtext throughout the pitch
"Good-looking, expensive, fast, not practical"
Describes Megan to a T.
Yes Ginzo gets the idea for this pitch after seeing Meg visit Don at the office.
"Good looking, expensive, fast, and frankly, not practical"
"I've always been fine with all of that"
God, Don was always so fucking cool.
He was talking about as the ad strategy
He would've been a proud rotary owner
@@yommish He’s also subconsciously referring to the women he’s slept with.
If you actually watched the series, you’d notice a lot of the lines have double meanings.
I'm trying not to think about Ginsberg at all...
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You talk the talk, but do you walk the walk
scenes like this made mad men a special show. the insight of the creative mind shown on screen.
Love when Don’s just like “fuck me, the kid’s got it”
It's not like it makes him a MadMan.
It's like at the end, Don is searching for any reason he can to turn it down and yet, it's a great pitch.
Don’s ego and insecurity tried to but couldn’t. I love it!
Yeah but it really exposes the male masochist desire to "own" women think of them as their property like a slave.
@@AnnaLVajda That was kind of the point in the episode, especially with the deal they made with Joan. And to go even grosser, less as slaves and more as objects.
@@AnnaLVajda are you saying wanting to own women as slaves is a masochistic tendency?
Peggy found Ginsberg and Don loved him at the interview. Stan and Ginsberg we're WAYYYYY more talented than Sal and Kinsey.
"What's the line?"
"I own a Jaaaaaaggggggg"
Just watched all 7 Seasons - much better than I remembered it - and that was good! LOVE it.
Jaguar, a car you mechanic will love.
Something beautiful that easily breaks down......
...........................why do you have to hurt me like that
"A hundred dollar brake job that costs $2,000. YOU'VE ARRIVED!"
I ran into (the actor who plays) Ginsberg at DFW airport baggage collection on my first day in the states. He was wearing a cap so when he noticed me noticing him he smiled and went his way with his bag. Unlike Don, I do think about him.
And then everyone started clapping
MAN45 later grew to be Albert Einstein.
he's a very sweet guy.
ben feldman is incredibly sweet
Narrator: “That would be the happiest moment of Michael Ginsberg’s life.”
When he finally cut off the valve of the alien mind-control.
I loved Ginsberg. I thought the show did his character dirty by making him go completely insane. I thought they should’ve played up a rivalry between himself and Peg. It would’ve been a great subplot.
It never sat right with me, totally unnecessary
@@lmenzol they wrote him off the show because he had to film for another project
@@338684q man that sucks, his character one of my favorites. I really hated the way they did it too.
Don tried to act like he was not slightly intimidated by Ginsberg. He was quirky and confident and handsome and very intelligent.
Ginsburg is the only dude who was better at his job than Don was.
Probably some truth to that, Don was a creative genius, one step up from that is madness which was Ginsburg’s fate.
Better at tag lines and concepts maybe, but not better in the room. And if you tried to send Ginsberg on a few high profile client dinners, I think you'd regret it.
@@mik9napkin598 I thinks that’s one of the interesting things the show explores. The people who are most successful are the best salesmen. Roger is a great example- he really does nothing, but he charms clients and everyone likes him and he’s always at the top of the heap. But he’s virtually useless in the office, to the point that it’s a running joke.
Don kinda realizes he’s more of a salesman than a true creative- which is why I think he derives less and less pleasure from his job. He can sell Ginsburg vision better than anyone, but at the end of the day, he’s totally dependent on those creatives. I think that contributes to his “nothing I do matters” crisis.
@@kahlilgarcia768 well said. The show set out to dramatize the creative process - something rarely attempted - but they also managed to dramatize the job of sales and accounts as well. And how nobody is strong in every position. All have moments where they shine or falter.
I always thought Kenny was an odd duck. He was a published sci fi writer - a skill that demands a potent imagination - and yet he was often shown as creatively tone-deaf in the office and meetings. Curious…
@@mik9napkin598 I always felt like people liked Ken well enough, so he just was kept around. Which is definitely an office archetype. The guy who is kind of meh, but chill and well liked by everyone. I always thought Ken never cared too much about his job- which is why the Ford guys pissed him off. Because he literally lost an eye for a job he never wanted to invest that much in.
Contrast that with Harry, who was dumb and despised by everyone, but was 100 percent at the right place, at the right time, and kept getting promoted as a result.
The show’s breakdown of office politics and how Capitalism empowers certain skillsets and personalities is so rich. I can rewatch this series endlessly and always find something new.
"Jaguar: at last." That's enough.
The three most terrifying moments of owning a jaguar: realizing you have to pay over MSRP to buy one today, going in for your first non warranty covered service bill invoice, selling it for half the cost you paid for it.
All 3 are only terrifying if you're poor. Can't afford to own one then don't buy it. I love mine. 😊
Love mine. Bought floor model, 2019 model year, spring 2021 at very nice discount, and 6 year 100,000 mile warranty, and includes annual maintenance. No issues one year in, and if I sold today I'd actually not lose any money.
@@andrewkitchenuk L.
Pooned?😮
"I keep imagining the asshole who's gonna want this car, and..."
You know the pitch is good when Don goes from treating you like shit to giving that smile
You can count on one hand the number of times Don got wowed by a line. Peggy a few times, and Ginsy here
As much as I love this scene, it´s kind of a spoiler for the pitch itself, later on. Maybe they should´ve cut after Don said "But what´s the line?". But that was something they did many times in Mad Men, we see the creative process and then we see the pitch to the client.
Mad Men was never big on cliffhanger storytelling.
no, it would have been more distracting, because the actual pitch is about the intercutting between joan's sacrifice and the pitch, past and present. the point of the episode is not the tagline.
The point is that the pitch and campaign are brilliant but the hard work doesn't matter when all they need is for Joan to sleep with Herb.
The real challenge as a creative in advertising isn't always selling the idea to the client, most of the times is selling the idea to the creative director. I think that was always the deal with Don's team storylines, it wasn't about the final product, it was about how done approved that final product.
@@gaborbanko4037 Joan didn't sacrifice anything. She sold her soul for monetary gain
Maybe Ginsberg brings something out of the rel ben feldman. That's why its so good.
"Permission to speek freely?"
very military
yeah, it's a common phrase in certain arena's. You've probably heard it before.
Captain on the deck. Engage! Warp factor nine point three.
I've used this when I knew the person in front of me had the authority to axe me on the spot.
Impulse speed!
So sad that the later season's weren't really about the business anymore but about Don's soul searching. Scenes like this are the reason why we all got hooked.
TheRainmannnn yup the pitches was what really initially got me into the show
It’s so true. I think Mad Men committed one of the ultimate sins in that it made its main character unlikeable after awhile. Or I should say, Don was never the most likable person, but he was infinitely interesting to watch.
@Higher Image Status lol I never rooted for Walter White. Jesse was the main character for me. rooted for him from the very beginning.
Those later seasons were so filled with the personal stuff that when it ended I had wished the series as a whole would've spent more time in the ad agency and doing actual work like this. The latter seasons swamped my whole perception of the show so when I went back five years later and rewatched the first two seasons, I was amazed at how much actual work they were doing.
Don's character eventually migrates to California which mirrored the shift from NYC to LA. All the songwriters from The Brill Building moved west. The era of the Mad Men was over. TV, Nielsens, direct marketing and ultimately Silicon Valley displaces a lot of creative and Don's character reflects that.
".. so I can go on?" Oh man, I love it how Ginsberg absolutely does not kiss rings, especially after watching so many characters grovel at Don's feet.
Yugo 45. Finally, something you can legally set on fire
Ginsberg was in the wrong room. Draper preferred his beauty rented.
Finally, Don loves an idea!!!!
Ginsberg was, and still is, my favorite caracter from Mad Men.
Said no one ever.
"He will take you to a romantic dinner and flirt outrageously with the waitress but it's ok because he's got a Jaaaaaaaaag" I like Jeremie's better
I freaking love advertising. We humans are designed to be creative.
oh yeah and manipulating people to buy crap they dont need is the best example of human creativity
@@archkull People need to figure out for themselves what they need. We can`t all be fucking Leonardo Davinci.
I think it was , "grace, pace, space"
That's genius...
That is a pretty good line tbh.
none of the comments here are talking about the really brilliant subtext here.
"I know you forbid us from thinking about the mistress, but..."
Ginsberg is of course referring to when Don told the creative team to stop using the word "mistress" in their ideas for the Jaguar copy. But Ginsberg doesn't say "the mistress idea" or "the word mistress," just "the mistress". Because he's talking about Megan as well.
Ginsberg better get more airtime in S7.
Ginsberg better get laid in this season too!
***** NO.
yeah he got more airtime. right to his head
More vent-time :D
More eartime
I'd rather say: "Jaguar. You can't have it."
They left too many loose ends with his character. It seemed like his father had some kind of legal case he was fighting (maybe he was blacklisted?) and needed his son’s help, what was the case?
i always took that to be his father just being crazy (feel like its common for mentally disturbed people to constantly be embroiled in wacky lawsuits) to foreshadow Michael unfortunately inheriting it
@@Raxfyrthat guy wasn't his real father
maybe just a jobless immigrant, doesn't want his son to end up alone like him
It's a good thing it's beautiful....the damn thing is likely NEVER leaving your driveway......
Jaguar … something I can truly own for as long as it lasts …
Don knew he was a fucking genius
Ginsberg is wearing the same tie as his interview
Ive been watching too much sopranos clips, i almost typed "Ginsberg whacked"
I love how Ginzo is describing
an asshole that resembles Don Draper.
They invented the redefined Don Draper for a sequel lol
Wow he has basically the same character in Superstore lol
He is a lot smarter and brighter than Don.
He could have led the team taking over Peggy's potition in a couple of years..
But Don has too much of an ego to let another man potentially taking his place rise above the occasion
He was also insane.
Smarter and brighter doesnt mean good leader. Often the opposite.
Jaguar ~ ah when it runs
love it.
Jagwaaah
Jag-U-Ar.
Ron Laflamme lol
Don: What's the line?
Ginsberg: "At last: something beautiful you can truly own."
Don: *Cums*
Ginsberg: *Cums*
*Whole office hears moaning*
Roger: QUIT JAGGIN' OFF
Ron LaFlamme
Silicon valley 🙄
Ginsburg before he cracked up.
Always remember: Don is the villain of the show, not the hero.
I'd rather live his life
he's neither. he's what's known as an anti-hero. a textbook example of that trope, in fact
eyyy it ron laflamme
Weird, why did they film this using green screen?
Fuck, that’s perfect
Ginsberg is so pretty
I always found the line a bit long winded personally. Great scene though.
I get the gist of the line, but it's still a bit clunky. Maybe that was ok for 1960, but something cleaner would be required today.
Beauty can be yours
Wow is that Ron LaFlame
I always found that slogan way too wordy. How about: "Jaguar. Own beauty."
They realized after a few episodes that they'd made him too good and thus threatened Don's leading position. So he goes insane. They couldve gotten more mileage by having become a competitor.
Don is the goat
“This strategy moves metal”
Hes like a jewish kennedy
For some a Jaguar was very "practical" then...
So did Jonah end up finishing business school after all?
Que temporada es?
Eh, I prefer "finally" to "at last".
no one who drinks and smokes that much looks like that, nobody, was a bill fallacy on the show..
That's not true.
jon hamm literally used to drink that much lol
Buy Volvos. They're boxy, but they're good.
i honestly don't like that line haha
better than Peggy
In a 2020 context, that is a creepy-ass tag line
Michael knew it was creepy. he wrote it specifically to get business from creepy assholes hahaha
No it isn't.
@@RB-ow7mt You're a virgin and I can tell.
Ron Laflamme, Was much better at the law profession
It’s Jaguar
Not Jagwah
jags are very unreliable too
he always showed signs of schizo
Mad men Faguar pitch
i actualy really fucking hated that tagline Ginsberg came up with. its too long and its not inspiring to take action.
as someone who works in advertising, when i first watched this episode, i came up with about 10 in my head that were supremely better.
I guess Don was impressed and liked it? Hard to tell. I'd have thought his reaction was, "What a fucking stupid line. [And it is.] ]If you come in here like that again I'll make you chew on your own shrivelly pipsqueak balls, kid."
Not the best slogan of the series; too long, and too pessimistic (and kinda loserly) for a premium product
Wait, we cant own women?
not in the 60's you can't; at least not in America.
That line sucks
It's a bit awkward, but not dumb (e.g. you can't or shouldn't really "own" beautiful people and can't own beautiful moments and so on). What am I supposed to think about it again? It's probably supposed to be pure crap, but will have to watch again. In any case, I find it too much and distracting how that guy says "asshole" in the beginning. It's the wrong emphasis or pronunciation, I think. Too "literal"-sounding...
@Lord Farquaad They're probably just trying to sound "sophisticated" with meaningless criticisms