I feel like beidou is a pretty well designed character, she rewards you for actually paying attention to the game (perfect counters) instead of just mindlessly clicking all avilable abilities. She obviously has some issues but at least she does what she is meant to do while being fun to play
Im a beidou main and I think she is one of most lost potential character. Her burst hass one of worst mechanism, having a minimum and maximum numbers of enemies. U need min 2 and max 4 character for her burst to perform. Her burst already has an aoe so having max no of enemy is stupid.
As a Beidou main since I started the game, her playstyle is so burned into my memory that I find it hard playing as anyone else. Despite having Ayaka for about a month now, she's only a sub DPS and still dies way more than I'd like
As someone who sucks at timing my attacks this is exactly why I don't use her 🙈 I also struggled with the counter-mechanic event we had not too long ago...
Personally I think Beidou has design issues due to how her focus looks like it should be the counter, but in actuality her burst is the real hard hitting part of her kit. They did it much better with Yunjin since that's all Yunjin has for personal damage and they added the work around of just holding it for longer if you can't be bothered to time it. I remember seeing Beidou counter do like 70k during the first 2-3 months of the game and that being so awesome, now it's so focused around how her burst works and it's so uninteresting. As someone said before, it also plays around a cap, 2 enemies minimum and 4 max for good dps, any less or more then your damage falls off so hard you might as well not use Beidou. Fischl is op in ST so you'd think "Oh Beidou is better in AoE right?" when in fact she's best at 2 enemies... which is a sizable dps increase from Fischl but is it really enough to matter? I think the only thing saving Beidou right now is the fact that there isn't a better AoE 4* Electro unit, unless you count Kujou Sara being able to hit like 120k on her burst or c6 Lisa hold E doing like 150k with proper set up lol But yeah, Beidou is really cool, her counter is really cool, but it's not even that good. It's a mechanic you have to learn to play around for less reward than just pressing Q then swapping to Ayato/Childe lol
i feel like jean is well-designed character she is very versatile as she can heal, deal damage, and debuff with vv but is not very overpowered. She has lot of teams she can fit in but her most notable ones would be sunfire and xiao hypercarry team
Yeah even tho I would cry if I get her on a banner I want. She’s pretty good and easy to build helped me out early game and I’m using her more with xiao
@@2triedforthis830 jean is actually one of the best xiao supports you can get especially if you have her c2 and c4 which give atk speed buff and decrease anemo res which greatly boosts xiaos damage
The end game content, yes ... this game lack of this ...just abyss is the endgame content now (gathering and exploring is the main content) ... I would have they add the event that on Childe 2nd rerun (i forget the name) to be the another endgame content ...
If Co-Op had greater focus then healers like Qiqi and Barbara would actually be a lot better, because they could heal other players while those players focus on damage.
@@Ayasegaki Well, a mode that's about endurance, about lasting the longest rather than a mere dps check (the example i think of is like the slaughterhouse in borderlands 2) would incentivize the use of characters that can help survivability.
@@Ayasegaki If they focused more on Co-op experience, such as adding Raids, then healers would become much more useful. Maybe something like a sort of Call of Duty Zombies mode where players have to fend off waves of monsters, and the numbers keeps on increasing over and over again. This would also make healers stronger.
Personally I think combat animations can be one of the things that make up a good checters design for example catalysts have flashy animations but feel bad to use on the other hand melee characters aren't flashy but have smother Gameplay
Before i watch the video. Here’s my personal take on what makes a character well designed, in terms of their kit (well designed=/=strong or meta in this case. Unfortunately you can have an amazing kit but still be weak if your numbers are bad) A well designed character kit to me, is one that has a clear direction and intent, and one that follows said direction. A character that’s focused on one goal in mind and that ties together to reach said goal. The two examples that i can think of off the top of my head are Raiden and Yanfei. Both vastly different in power levels but in common with the fact that they have a very well thought out kit. Raiden’s entire kit centers around ER, batterying your team while also doing good damage. And her kit ties into that perfectly. From Her ascension stat being ER, her Her Q’s energy restoration mechanics and numbers, her A4 further amplifying her damage and energy restoration. You can tell Hoyo knew exactly what they were doing with Raiden. Yanfei is also a very well designed kit imo but one that is just lacking in power. She’s meant to be a Charge atk DPS through her scarlet seals mechanics, and again. Everything about her kit, just all comes together to fullfil that goal. Scarlet seals increasing charge atk damage and reducing it’s stamina cost, etc. those two character kits are very cohesive and logical with their main objective. No random tacked on ascension passives (looking at you, Yae), no out of place abilities. Everything makes sense
As someone who used Yan Fei to carry my team from mid-late game, I think that her kit is fantastic. Everything in her kit is there to support her stacking scarlet seals for maximum charged attack damage. Her elemental skill, burst, constellations, and ascension passives cohesively come together to make her a charged attack focused main dps. The only thing that holds her back is her numbers, but she has one of the most cohesive kits in the game imo.
Yeah, I agree about Yanfei. It's not her fault that her damage is overshadowed by other 5 star characters. It's simply because of how the game is supposed to be. 5 star will always have better stats eventho their kit is kinda bad. There is nothing really out of place with Yanfei's kit.
@@seansaechao1798 Yes, I have her C5 and started maining her when she first released. It’s only later that I got her cons and boy, it makes her even more powerful. I agree that her numbers hold her back (the highest I got with melt was 58720 with Bennett and her talents 8-9-10 at lvl 80) but she’s a well-fledged char and all things in her kit makes sense unlike Diona C4.
As far as design goes, there's a single question you need to ask yourself when looking at a character's appearance. Does the character have horns? If yes, they've got a good design. Simple.
Childe, Dilluc, Kazuha and Yanfei always stood out to me as well designed characters. Childe IMO is the most unique character and embodies the theme of Genshin's party combat system. He is like the perfect member. He boosts your teams Attack by one talent, hydro element can be used offensively or as a support for other elements. And finally his unique Skill cool down implements swapping between characters. Dilluc is well thought out, even if he is power crept. Nothing needs to be said about kazuha, anemo is great for CC, 40% VV shred and elemental damage boost from his kit makes him one of the best supports in the game. Yanfei's entire kit is very well made, all of her mechanics work perfectly. She's only held back by the fact she is a 4*.
I think that this what should make a well designed main dps, is a trade of power the main dps has and cons/ requirements it has. For example: Tartaglia is extremely flexible due to stance change and element, very powerful against crowds, he has literally quadratic scaling on his riptide against multiple opponents, but to make you take advantage of this feature, you must learn how to manage coldowns and have crowd control party members.I think that Xiao good example of very well designed main dps character as well. He is very good main dps, despite being anemo, which is both his biggest advantage and disadvantage, it makes him jack of all trades, master of none when it comes to fighting almost every kind of enemy or elemental shields. He will shred through every shield quickly using his anemo plunge attacks, but not as quickly as other main dps with elemental advantage to that type of shield type. His burst gives him really huge buff, but it has a it's price, energy and health drain cons. Ninguang as geo main dps has similar advantages to Xiao, geo is good against everything almost, but isn't the best against anything. Diluc is another exaple, hr doesn't really gets any buffs from his kit besides pyro infusion, but he is pyro and uses claymore so he can utilise reaction really well and destroy shields easily due to weapon type, but to do that he need hydro supports. There are more well designed main dps characters like Itto and Ayato, but it would take long time to explain each of them. There are also characters like Hu Tao and Ganyu destroyed that trend of this trade of. Hu Tao is good example of case when character has such trade of, but it's unequal. Her gameplay is risky, but buffs she receives are too high for that. Her elemental skill infusion shouldn't be as powerful or should introduce another restriction other than taking some health, but she her design concept is really good in it's core. Ganyu on other hand has very safe gameplay, so she can send spam nuke charged attacks from her bow safely, has dash/taunt+application of cryo on her elemental skill and her burst makes her good as support. But there is no justification for such power. No real restriction or requirement. Even Hu Tao has a requirement in her kit, that tries to justify her power. Ganyu has none. Bow gives her easy infusion and safe range she can attack from sending charge attacks with enormous scaling, basically better version of Mona's elemental skill what makes her good cryo applicator and burst is also very good for support. Raiden is broken too, even more than Ganyu, but Raiden is broke because of her design, she is archon so she has to have some kind of broken utility. Venti has the best crowd control and is excellent debuffer, with very neat energy recharge capabilities, also provides a lot of exploration benefits Zhongli has the best shield in entire game making you invincible, has very good nuke that grands also freeze reaction like crowd control, destroys geo shields and ores easily, shreds resistances even those rare as geo and anemo and buffs all geo constructs. Raiden is best battery in whole game, very good main dps at c0 and the best in the game at c3. She is very good in all kind of teams that need energy and additionally can easily outdps your main dps.
@@God_abandoned_us_all wouldnt say Xiao is a nicely designed main dps I main him and he can shred shields not a lot of enemies have high anemo res, but his ult outlasts any buff you can give him, and he need particles plus his cooldowns were made with anemo resonance in mind. Honestly they should shorten his Q duration and decrease the energy required to use it, in a way so it stays the same as now it justs lasts shorter so it can be buffed for its full duration also hoyoverse literaly hates Xiao, Yunjin and Heizu were rumored to be "anemo gorou's" but they werent, geo has a good offensive resonance, giving us an anemo gorou a better anemo resonance will mean a lot to Xiao and possibly another Anemo main dps in the future
I consider Beidou as one of Genshin's well-designed characters in terms of lore, gameplay, and power level. For the lore, she is pretty much a very strong person that carried herself from being a nobody to where she is today, earning the respect of her crewmates and pretty much most of the people in Liyue. Gameplay-wise, I personally enjoy it the most ever since I got her. While the game is arguably easy, it incentivizes you from observing the enemy's attack patterns by timing in your E counters, a rewarding play style. Her burst does a lot of damage in a situation where there are multiple enemies, which is most of the time. Because of this, she solidify herself in taser teams. And finally, when it comes to power level. She is overall a solid unit that doesn't take-over any character's role whatsoever, since she contributes to the whole team by doing on-field and off-field damage while being almost flexible when it comes to team combinations. The only problems I could think off about her are single enemy DPS drop, doesn't work with Raiden, and energy issues.
Regarding Raiden-Beidou, I tend to stagger their Bursts so they don't interfere with each other. I will always run Xingqiu with them, since his Burst is pretty much permanently up due to how much energy generation Raiden provides. It can feel a bit clunky, if you aren't used to an "unclean" rotation, but they can work. You just have to be mindful that Beidou's Burst and Raiden's Burst can't proc each other. It does give a near 100% Electro-charged reaction uptime with Xingqiu, which is bonkers for large mob packs. But then we start getting into Electro problems, not character issues, where it's the weaker single target Element compared to Cryo/Pyro.
For me, just in gameplay, it goes something like this: Fun to use even if its mediocre > boring to use but efficient > Not a fan of the game play but i have no other alternative > clunky to use but overpowered > clunky and underpowered As long it feels just right to play and its fluid enough in its role, ill play that unit regarless of meta.
I comepletly agree with you. That's why i didn't pull for Xiao. I really like him, but his clunky in his gameplay, i would lose too much time in abbys ;;
I think Itto is well-designed and well-balanced. He's a easy-to-pick-up dps character with straightforward gameplay that, crucially, feels good to play. Itto's gameplay loop feels like it was designed perfectly around his himbo personality too, which is a plus.
with all of this he has enough complexity that if you start to care about optimizing combos and such you can. Itto is such a well designed and balanced unit!
The problem with Itto is that he kinda needs zhongli, albedo and gorou, as in, all geo characters play best with other geo characters, he’s not a particularly interesting main dps outside of geo because he offers absolutely nothing other than damage which might as well be physical in most scenarios.
@@theolailheugue9402 And since he almost only does geo damage you can have any off-field damage dealer of another element and he will get a constant stream of shields.
Personality, Diluc was the first character that clicked with me during his quest and I wanted him ever since, I wouldn't get him until Yoimiya's banner trying to get Thoma, I think, and now I still use him a lot even if I have a stronger Hu Tao in my account
I feel like Albedo is an extremely underrated character. He's one of few characters that does damage with the wasteful defense artifacts and gives a consistent extra damage to any other character on the field even without him being out himself. Plus, with just how many crystallize shields he makes per tick of his skill is almost like having a strong ass shielder like Zhongli. I never go into the Raiden boss without him. And you have to think and pay attention with him as well when fighting bosses because the flower can be knocked out easily with one solid attack. Keeps you on your toes. Not to mention he's just a joy to run around with. I love him so much. Idk why people complain about the elevator going up in the middle of battle, just have to plunge attack, lol.
I 1000% agree. I made a second account and got him and was overjoyed. After he got the new husk set and his 4* weapon he just became better imo and easier to use. He’s amazing in a lot of dps teams like hu tao and Xiao and maybe even Ayaka ( I use Ayaka and him together and they do pretty well) and he’s just super fun to play with dealing good dmg himself.
@@2triedforthis830 mhm! I'm really upset that I won't be able to give him his weapon for my second account, since I only just a few days ago am able to play it without lagging to hell and back, lol. Not gonna stop me from playing him when I do get him on it tho, I love him too much
@@StreamKArt Even though i don't own Albedo, i agree with this. But i just don't like that he seems like just a good pair with Zhonghli. They did Albedo dirty with that in my Opinion. Imagine him beeing a different element. Or maybe even switch elements, that would make him way more viable and stronger. And would fix a lot. I guess he can make geo shields easy, but that isn't gonna last forever. And that elevetor is literally useless outside of the exploring of course. What is it supposed to do? Reach frickin Ruin Guards Eyes or something? I guess? Very weird design from Hoyo.
@@chaosinfernoid9008 I can't see him built any different, and I've never had an issue with his elevator in combat, it's even helped me a several times times. That might be because I'm a Xiao main tho, idk, I just like plunge attacks with any character, lol. The only change that I'd make if I could is make him complete build off defense, and not his skill on defense and then burst on attack. That would be the best change they could make to him if you ask me.
Diluc is the most balanced character they ever created and yes, he may power crept by other now but he still good to use on spiral abyss and clearing game content, he IS NOT that bad like some people think edit: for the love of god, he is the type of "Damage per second" NOT "Damage PER SCREENSHOT"
He carried me until around AR55, when I finally decided that I have like 3 benched 5 stars that are some of the best in game, so I started to use them, but, he's still by far the easiest to play and still lasted me quite a while in the game. There's really nothing wrong with him that's not reserved to just him, as clunky-ness is something in a lot of claymores and damage output won't matter much throughout most of the game.
legit im envious of any one who pulls diluc on noelle banner.... they have and amaizing fun to play dps who can acompany them till the end of their journey as their main
I believe Rosaria is also up there as one of the well designed 4-star: -Cyro resonance and has assess to melt/freeze/superconduct (physical) teams, and her kit applies cyro consistently; -Her skills is coherent with burst and shares high scaling; -Constellations are really solid, boosting her own damage potential , energy and team buffing ability; -Gains access to scarce team Crit sharing and got the only movement speed utility passive in the game currently
@bird she is a support and a cryo support at that. Her multipliers on E and Q are very good. Just bcoz her C6 has Phys support capability doesn't mean she is a phys dps (if anything its phys support). Also it doesnt matther that she was seen using a phys weapon in character trailer, Yunjin was using dragon's bane.
@@parthpurwar that's the "problem". According to you, she's meant to be a cryo support but she has a constellation that 'wants' her to be onfield, also a cons that reduce enemy phys res.
I prefer a characters personality and fun factor in my gameplay. Even if the character is really good, I won't raise them if I don't have a personal attachment/connection with them. It's much more fun to clear content and a few floors of Abyss with your favorite characters instead of using the same team comps everyone else uses the most.
Absolutely agree with this comment! I use my favorites and the characters I can connect with personally or if I really like them and their stories, too.
you literally sums up the reason why i played genshin. i like the character design. ends of. no matter how bad the character kit is. if i like the design, i will make it work.
For me, the character needs a sort of combo. Obviously I want them to be fun to play, pretty to look at, and a story that creates a connection. However, I also want them to contribute something to my existing team, and whether they are worth the time I have invested in the game. All characters will eventually be powercrept, but I still look out for the more optimal picks of the bunch. Really, personality can only do so much for me since I intend to use them often. Hence they need not only be fun but effective in their role. Otherwise I start comparing them to others and question whether it was worth the primogems. Yeah, I'm picky. It's why I usually hold my gems for awhile.
Imo for 4 stars, it would be fischl as a well-rounded character. Though she focuses on single targets, but she's also a great particle generator and players have the choice to build her either sub DPS and physical DPS which gives the players the flexibility to build her according to their respective rosters.
I like Physical DPS but truth is her Electro carry teams are genuinely very good, as a old player of her its what i'd typically recommend for easy/efficiency of clearing all the content, with Phys being more for showing off or having fun. Point with this is her variety for being played on field is wider, includes a lot more variation then some give it credit. Phys, Electro, and Hybrid i've encountered atleast half a dozen team types that are good enough i'd easily call them viable (Phys Hyper with Yun Jin, Hyper Electro with Sara, Taser on field with a off field anemo or pure superconduct which is where Hybrid build shines, various overvape teams, and hot pot/soup driver.) This all being while any on field play with her is basically a option, but its a easy to make work option even if its not her more definitive calling as a SubDPS.
I’d say the only problem is most of her power is locked behind constellations. I absolutely adore fischl and still use her even though I have xiao and Ayaka who deal way more dmg lol. She’s a great character.
@@cmool I'm still waiting for my C1 on Fischl to use her machine-gun :'( I guess I'll be able to get her to C2 by july, with her being back in starglitter shop + her being a reward for 2.8's event.
@@Ottobon Yup, I'm doing that, already got her a husk set and she's close to 80 now ❤️ But the most important part for me is the joy of seeing numbers go fast hahaha
I believe Yanfei is designed perfectly to what she is supposed to be, a pyro charged attack unit. Her normal attacks boosts her charge attack damage through her seals, her skill boosts her charged attack damage through seals, and her burst also buffs her charged attack through seals while also giving them a flat attack boost for when you cast her seals. Her passive talents also further builds on her charged attack damage, and her constellations help negate all the issues Yanfei has for being a charged attack unit, her c1 and and c6 reduces her weak point being stamina, her c2 increases her overall damage with her charged attack and her c4 helps her get rid of the issue of her being vulnerable while she charge attacks. Her entire kit is tailored for one specific thing which is why it's so intuitive to use her as she only has to work on one thing, damage
To me it always goes like this -Have a definite role of what you're supposed to be - A Clear Focus and optimized kits at that one specified Field you're supposed to be -The Stats to Optimized those Field -Not too hyperfocus on just 1 Role that you'll ended up being replace by someone that provides the same as you but more even if they're weaker -Minimum Efforts for as High as Possible Potentials At least that's how I defined a Well Design Characters
This brought up a very good point about Bennett. This made me realize that aside from me not like it his personality, he’s just too good at everything for me to want to use him. I like to struggle a little bit so I mained a character who not supposed to be a main DPS(Rosaria) I only got Ayaka like a week ago but it already feels like she makes everything too easy.
Ayaka is stupidly good indeed, you can just slap her on a freeze team and be done with it. I guess we'll see her becoming less viable when we get more cryo-resistant content, because as of now cryo is too good against 3 major elements (hydro, pyro and electro) and average against the others. I'm thankful for her being that strong though, I needed that extra oomph as I reached WL 8 as a newer player with piss-poor gear :')
10:25 Now that's what I was thinking about whether or not characters like Zhongli, Bennette and Xingqiu are completely invalidating other characters, due to them having extremely overpowered kits that breaks the game in half and makes it too easy. In any RPG, I was fascinated by the three holy trinity of roles: DPS, Tank and Healer. Each and every one of them are designed with a purpose of with a situation you are in and not so much the necessity of only one. In my eyes, these roles should do what they do best at and trying to become the other, because it defeats the purpose of flexibility. That's why I find it frustrating how the game is revolving more on DPS rather than defense and healing because it begs the question of why needing them while you can just defeat the enemies with sheer brute force. In League of Legends, the reason why I absolutely hate carry supports is because they go against the rule of what a support should do: for enchanters and tank supports they should either heal, shield or act as a meat-shield to defend their characters, without dealing any huge amounts of damage for themselves. And this isn't just for supports, but the gameplay environment also, where everything is fast-paced and snowbally where you can just beat the game without being defensive all the time or even need a healer. And before you say that I want DPS to be nerfed to the ground or make it one of the worst roles of all time, no, because that will also invalidate the need for them also. In short, when you implement the three holy trinity you should give each and every on of them equal justice and respect, and NOT treat one of them as if they are your "favorite child". More people and even gaming companies should appreciate and understand the importance of Tank and Healer more, rather then just milk DPS dry. Remember, there are times when you need to be patient instead of rushing in without thinking. Think brains, not brawns.
@@zeosummers3984 That’s kind of the game’s fault for not encouraging you going on the defensive side, due to several factors: enemies’ ai don’t put much fight, lack any meaningful strategy, dodging has no downtime, some characters unintentionally do a better job than others, etc. What I want to see is to introduce more enemies who are aggressive, smarter and that hit you harder, have attacks that you can barely avoid with dashing and even prevent your movement, have block periods that prevents you from doing any damage to them while it unleashes heavy blows to you or can affect your health through shield like the corrosion status. Lastly, I don’t care if my characters do big damage numbers to win. Because why bother stacking more when I worry more about my survivability and endurance, something that the game never learns from.
@@zeosummers3984 But that’s what makes combat in that game less impressive and boring. I don’t like when players has cheese all the way because that looks the most laziest and honorless way you could ever think of. Maybe that’s what people in china thinks, that it is a waste of time to spend healing and tanking when you could just kill the enemy as fast as you can. But I on the other hand don’t see it. Yes, it is fun to one-shot everything with all the big damage numbers. But do you have fun when you are tanking almost anything or heal so much too? Just because the tank and healer don’t deal huge amounts of damage the DPS, nor the intention of doing so, does not mean they should abandon for what they are good at. And it’s especially true when you only put DPS at top tier while tank and healer is at bottom tier just because they deal no damage, which is very wrong to begin with and only lead to misconception. And the Chinese community are quick to point out that they say something like “skip this character it sucks!” And I’m like “So what? Is it because they deal no damage? Is that what you think? Well, you are just trolling.” I swear, the Chinese community is infamous for this sort of s***. Edit: And sorry for sounding racist here, but that just bothers the hell out of me.
I think rule first should have an asterix "but there's a noticeable difference between character with and without investment". That's kinda my problem with Bennet. He barely needs any investment aside from some ER, 79 lv and high base DMG weapon and he does his role pretty similarly to full invested one. You need some kind of balance between "you don't need anything for it to work" and "you need to sell your kidney". I like theory crafting and tinkering with characters, so that's very important for me.
@@Iffem Yes, but heal with generic artifacts not focused on HP is enough in most situations. You see the difference, but in most cases it's overkill. And while overkill with shields is acceptable, with healing it's usually a waste (unless clam set? Clam bennet would be funny)
I feel the same way about Gorou! He's really easy to build, barely needs any investment... but I like Gorou a lot, and want to invest more in him and make him stronger. And there's literally no point, levelling all his talents and min maxing his artifacts won't make him buff better and he does piddly damage anyway so there's no point beefing that up either.
@@ph5.484 I agree! I have major problem with Gorou's mechanics because he does his main job great with minimal investment (slap some energy regen and max out his skill and you're basically done). It changes slightly when you get C4 Gorou cause then he finally starts to scale with something (DEF based healing) which motivates you to invest into him a little more, but the difference is not that great. I really like his niche and as a character, but he's more specialised Bennet in lots of things.
I would say Itto and Ningguang are well-designed characters for my standard. I would say Noelle but she have that glaring issue of lack of energy generation+high burst cost so No, she ain't. But Ningguang and Itto have a chance. They are good DPS doing their job well and requiring a decent amount of investment, not too much but also not too little. And they have a support that is dedicated for them: Gorou. Their damage are decently high as individual (without relying on team comp). Honestly I can't find a problem with their kit, except that they are GEO which is the most neglected element in the game. Btw, I agree that Diluc and Sucrose are the most well-designed character in the game and they were released as a complete character from the very start. They are released with specific artifact set dedicated for them, dedicated weapon, and well-defined stat priority.
saying WGS is Diluc's tailor made weapon would be a lie. Yes it's best for him, but only because it gives you an unnecessarily big shitton of ATK, instead of working like Kagura's Verity for example. His kit is thought out very well, true, except for the useless charged attack talent. I wish they swapped it to something like +20% crit damage for first e slash, 30 for second and burst, and 40 for third. Would make building crit on him even easier.
I'd actually disagree on Ningguang being well-designed, for a variety of reasons. But a big one is that Gorou is not a support for her at C0, and you're better off bringing another character. He even barely counts at C6. Ningguang, as a whole, feels very self-contradictory with how many elements of her kit fight against the rest. She's a catalyst where her reactions are unimportant, and she can't use Widsith well. She's a Geo character who can't benefit from DEF, or enable Geo resonance. She's a 4* Main DPS, which means she doesn't have the personal damage to compete with the 5* DPS. She's also one of the only characters where her best artifact set is double 2-set pieces, and that already sends up some red flags about her design, since I'd say no other character that actively avoids having a complete artifact set is well-designed. Unless I'm missing something, she doesn't really have much team variety either. Her best teams will all be Yun Jin/Bennet/Flex. Maybe change Yun Jin to also include Zhongli and Albedo.
@@rust8995 this is something I would like to say about Noelle, I would consider her well-designed, but the community wont because of just one glaring issue which considerably easy to fix. The other issues about her is being Jack of All trades but I consider this as an advantage. And being reliant to constellation, other players consider non-C6 Noelle as lackluster, I would argue with them, but the fact that non-C6 Noelle cant compete with other DPS nor Support in the utilities she have shows that there is something wrong on her kit. Dont get this wrong, Noelle is my favorite character in all of Genshin, but really her kit wasnt well-designed enough. Meanwhile for Ningguang, I just find her kit as well-balanced and despite needing common supports (Bennett and Zhongli), her own damage still lives up even without them, it isnt as much as 5star though. She doesnt rely on constellation that much. Her role as a 4star DPS that deals enough damage even without relying to reaction. My standard for well-designed and balanced character is a character that brings enough utility, not too much nor too little and still relies on a team but not too much. Ningguang and Itto lives up to that, they are decent and strong Geo DPS that gives enough damage. they are strong without being broken but also have flaws without being too hindering.
@@thesilent185 that's why I didn't use "tailor-made" but "dedicated". But that might be wrong too. Since WGS is a generalist plain DPS Claymore rather than dedicated weapon for Diluc, but Diluc is just a plain DPS. Furthermore, WGS makes Diluc's artifact stat priority easier since his Atk became sky high so his artifact priority will just be EM-Pyro-CritDmg. His Crit Rate was already covered by ascension stat and artifact substats.
@@thesilent185 Not only that, it has nothing to do with him lore-wise. I don't think they were releasing weapons like Amos bow and Freedom Sworn at that time.
Adding to the Yanfei crowd because I still use her as my Pyro DPS despite having Hu Tao. I really love how her playstyle feels in my hands, her range is good against Spectres and her kit have a clear focus. Combine with being easy to build (don't have 4P Crimson Witch because it's a pain to farm? 4P Wanderer's is just as solid) for, she's a good pick.
I've seen plenty of videos about poorly designed characters in this game, and what NOT to do when making a character. But this is one of the first few videos I've seen actually highlighting what, instead, SHOULD be done when designing them. Before I had no frame of reference for what even made a well designed character, but now I understand a whole lot more and I love that I agree with it 100%. I want the characters I play to be fun and useful, but far from overwhelmingly overpowered
My way of choosing team revolves around how fun they are to play or how much i like their story with a few with synergies, This is probably why I use keqing so much despite having itto a much better main dps and why i dont use bennet/xiangling on my overworld team since they arent really fun to use all they do is dmg or a boost to it no flashy or nice to see animations or anything too special they are just too simple for their average usage, Jean is a healer but she is really good at yeeting things, venti has really good cc but his exploration utility is pretty good, keqing has really good animations and has a teleport, the traveler being able to switch elements and play styles is pretty fun, beidou having a counter system makes it satisfying when you time it right, qiqi has good healing but her normal attack animations make her really fun to play with sub dps whose skills rely on atk speed rather than timing, etc No matter how meta a character gets I feel a character shines on how nice they are to play rather than how much damage or support they can dish out in a single press of a button in a game where outside the abyss everything is fairly easy to a certain degree
I definitely go for personality/how they feel to play more. I've skipped several "meta" characters like Eula, Ganyu, and Hu Tao because I was already satisfied with the characters I had whose personalities and feel of play I liked better (Kazuha, Childe, Itto, among others). Raiden Shogun I caved and wished for on her rerun because everyone talks about how she's "the best unit in the game" (ironic after people trashed her so hard when she first came out) but personally she doesn't really help the teams I use that much so I still feel meh about her. At least she's pretty.
I feel the need to pull for "Meta" teams for the freemogems(in the spiral abyss), which is really needed for many players like f2ps or low spenders and with those freemogems i try to pull for the characters that are really fun to play or that i like their design (ingame personality, outfit designs, etc). HOWEVER i keep getting stuck in the never ending spiral (pun intended) of pulling meta characters since i really dont get lucky with artifacts and thus struggle with the endgame content that is usually the abyss(there are some events i struggle wit), so i find it really hard to get the character i want. You could say that i could just pull for the characters i want and skip the meta characters but im sort of a completionist(and also i really want those freemogems) and try to get 36 stars(at the minimum 33) and REALLY lose my mind griding for it and sometimes im not even able to succeed.
Elden Ring remind people why Genshin is easy. You DON'T need perfect 4 piece set,perfect substat to beat Spiral Abyss. Also are you F2P/Light Spender ? Cause... Excuse me ? being _Completionist_ ? Is that weird Joke ? Unless ya are Whales then go on. Collect em' all *LIKE NO TOMORROW* ヽ(°◇° )ノ And NO. I won't include "F2P with Crazy Luck" as valid justification for collecting all Hero.
Personally i think it's a bad idea long term to skip characters you really like just for meta. When you do 36 star abyss, what will you have after all is said and done? 4 stars are good enough to clear, you just need time and investment. And at least some 5 stars you like should add some power to your account, even if it's not peak power. Even if they don't add power, you can just not build them too much till you max clear Also with artifacts, do away with the idea you need BiS sets on everyone. Use an optimizer and you'll be surprised how much power you have in your artifacts. Now, if you're too new to the game, you may just have to farm more. And ofc get those talents up. Bad rng over a long period of time becomes statistically unlikely. Also, ppl often don't realize how good their substat efficiency is. Easier to let the computer do the thinking for you
You don’t need meta characters to clear spiral abyss however. It’s very possible to 36* with your favorites with enough time and investment. And even if you are struggling it’s very easy with almost any units to at least 33* abyss and if you are getting 33* then you’re only missing out on 50 primos every 2 weeks, which really isn’t a whole lot, pulling for meta characters just to clear abyss is draining primos for characters you like far more than just ignoring abyss all together. Especially when you can absolutely do spiral abyss with your favorites, Don’t focus only on the meta
Pulling for units just to get abyss primos is messed up, my friend. You spend 10-20k primos to pull a 5 star, just to receive 1.2k monthly from 36*. It’s literally taking 10 months (almost a year) to regain what you spent for that meta pull. Just to regain, not even to start earning more. Not viable at all.
Tbh when reading the title I thought of character design as appearance and personality rather then game-play. That being said I think both aesthetic and game-play design matter, not just game-play. I personally pull for aesthetics over game-play most of the time as I want to enjoy seeing the character when playing, it's why I never use Bennett outside of spiral abyss and even in spiral abyss I don't find him fun to play, but he is generally necessary for a lot of teams unless your account is stacked. But if I like a character's aesthetic and pull for them, what will make me use them more often is how fun their game-play is.
I use personality when deciding the Dps, sub dps and elemental support for a team and then the 4th is just the a performance unit that pulls it all together when i design my teams.
I am a Kaeya main. I chose to overwork in the building department once I saw that guy coming my way. His personality was the reason I loved him and this game. However, recently I got Ayaka on my alt acc. And even though she's better in the dps department (by sheer numbers) I surprisingly found out that I still like playing on my main with Kaeya more. The main reason to this is, I guess, survivability. I don't have a dedicated healer in my party on my lower AR acc with Ayaka. I don't like Barbara's healing, because it freezes me to death, so I don't use her. So here's the deal: there to 5☆ characters in the party (excluding Traveler): Ayaka and Keqing. And they both like to die really quick. And I never have this problem with Kaeya, thanks to his passive. Second reason is the way I am used to play, however Ayaka and Kaeya differ not that much (the only difference is the sprint mechanic and everything it brings). What I'm saying is that... Those harder to build units can really pay off in the end and sometimes they need just a bit more. As example, Kaeya and Tartaglia. I have both as dps's on my main and they might require the same in the beginning: good 5☆ weapon (Skyward Harp for Tartaglia and Aquila Favonia for Kaeya, for example), good artifacts (luckily same domain), and a bunch of supports. But surprisingly for me, even though Childe gives better numbers he's a really pain to play. He has best broken supports in the game (Bennet and Zhongli) and a subdps (Jean right now) in his abyss party and still sometimes performs good but with a good amount of work. Kaeya on the other hand runs with Xingqiu, Chongyun and Venti and is a less pain in the ass because of his playstyle. Though, I might be biased. Tbh, I really would love to hear about all the characters I brought up, especially my mains. We'll be waiting for next week to learn what will it be. Thanks for your video!
Tartaglia's main strength lies in his nuke potential, not his DPS. If you want to use him on the field it is best to use him with Xiangling. If Kaeya's passive is enough to keep you alive, then healing is not needed. Just use food. Kaeya does not heal too much and, tbh overworld monsters at low AR do not do too much damage. Plus Ayaka does a stupid amount of damage so you are likely to take down most monsters before they can fight back. But you can play however you like.
I want to mention that some characters seem to have inherently weird design choices. Yoimiya and Yae Miko are the 2 I'm talking about. Yoimiya is a DPS that has an ultimate with exploding fireworks, yet somehow its a single target ultimate, which applies a debuff that Yoimiya herself cant proc, which doesnt make sense to me design wise. The artifact set that has her design, Retracing Bolide, only fits her if you have a character to constantly sheild her too, which is an odd design choice when you look at other characters and the sets that have designs that take after them, examples: Raiden and Emblem of Severed Fate, Kokomi and Ocean Hue. Yae Miko has such beautiful attack animations and a really cool looking charge attack, yet shes released as a sub-dps you use quick swap style, without using any of her normal attacks, and yet again for some reason requires insane field time for her damage rotation like a standard dps. Her totems give her a dash, which has no invulnerability frames, and combined with needing to cast it 6 times in a rotation results in getting hit and feeling clunky. Her rotation requires casting 3 totems, destroying them with her ultimate, and then casting them again, taking insane field time when really her design could have refreshed the totems duration on ultimate cast like Komomi rather than destroying them. Her design makes it seem like she should have been an electro DPS, but maybe changed later down the line to be a sub-dps. The artifact set that has her design, Shimenawa's, doesnt even fit her at all as it seems to be designed for an on field DPS that relies on normal and charged attacks, which could also further suggest design changes to Yae Miko.
Yoimiya is one of the characters who needs a shield the most, imo. I'd sooner not use a shield for Hu Tao than for Yoimiya. Reason being, her damage is backloaded - most of her damage lies in the later attacks in her Normal Attack combo, so you really don't want the combo to be interrupted by either getting hit by enemy attacks or needing to dodge them. That said, I personally play her with 4-pc Crimson Witch in a Melt team :D
Not me thinking this was going to be a video on artistic design; clothes, hair style, color usage, etc. Though that is mostly about preference I suppose, even more than game play design.
I wanna build a team for Heizou because of what I saw on the leaks, so I think I prefer personality in general. Also, if a character is fun to use even outside the battle (like Sayu), that's also a big plus for me xD
I feel like Razor is a well-designed character, he is a normal attack physical DPS and his burst increase his attack speed and continuously applies electro to the enemy, he can increase his ER(tap E) and generate energy for himself(hold E) making it easy to get his burst back, if he has 5* base stat and scaling I'm sure more people would play him Edit: He also gives you some energy back if you switch him during his burst
I think Razor, Ningguang and Yanfei are well designed Characters where the kits work well with each other and also useful. I think their Kits are even better than some 5 stars.
The least intuitive thing about his kit is his elemental skill. He is a physical carry so you prioritize his normal attack but his skill animation takes up so much time. Add his c4 to the mix and to me it feels like his abilities are competing against each other for uptime, locking each other down.
@@dentangaji6161 True. Only thing about ningguang is theres no reason to get all 3 star jades from NAs, it would be great if her normal attacks were slightly faster and every star jade you get boosts your normal attack and charged dmg by X%.
A well designed character to me is one that is flexible and offers reasonable opportunities for synergy, such that there is possibility for emergent gameplay. In Genshin, that synergy includes not only between other characters in a team, but also between their own kit. Also, leveraging the fact that Genshin is a 3D action game is a huge bonus. So in that regard, Jean is the best designed character in Genshin in my opinion. She has some clear synergy between her abilities: charged attack can put enemies into the air to set up for your elemental skill, and your elemental skill can push enemies out of your elemental burst for extra damage. And if you look at each skill individually, there's lots of flexibility or interesting ways to use her abilities. Charged attack can essentially stun enemies and is thus a form of crowd control. Her skill can induce momentum-based damage and reposition enemies and objects (e.g. Baron Bunny). And her burst heals and has a very cool self-swirl property (e.g. used for Sunfire). And to top it all off, it really feels like she leverages the fact that Genshin is a 3D action game by manipulating positioning and height. Please note that I am not considering the character's element and associated perks (e.g. Viridescent Venerer for Jean) as part of their design, since otherwise how well designed their elements are would be too big of a factor. Like think about if Keqing and Diluc swapped elements, lol. In my eyes, most other characters have a pretty rigid way to play them that hardly strays, if at all, from the developer's vision. Sure, maybe they didn't know the exact meta teams that Raiden Shogun would slot into, but her kit is still used as straightforwardly as possible as far as I can tell, and does exactly what she was intended to do (very well, at that). Not to say that it's bad design since she does function well, but it's just okay to me rather than good. Zhongli also suffers the same problem, and gets further points docked for having a flat -20% res debuff to all elements with no nuance. Another failing for many characters to me is that oftentimes either their skill or burst are afterthoughts and hardly participate in their identity as a character; like one or the other are individually VERY weak reasons to use that character. For instance, Ayaka's skill or Albedo's burst. They don't do anything interesting, nor will you ever pick those characters for your team for those abilities alone (edit: I suppose Albedo's burst does give some EM to the team, but still a rather weak incentive when teambuilding esp with the current Geo design philosophy). Granted Ayaka has a special dash so maybe you could argue she has enough going on, but I personally hate when design space is used without offering of substance. It doesn't even have to necessarily be new (e.g. Yunjin's parry when Beidou's already exists), but I feel it's gotta have SOME kind of reason to care about it existing other than the bare minimum of giving energy and doing some damage.
Yeah, Albedo Burst and Ayaka skill are just extra damage. If Ayaka had a bigger stun for her skill, and Albedo burst healed or increased damage somehow, people would appreciate them more.
Genshin characters have 3 sources that determine their "playstyle" • Their kit and constellations • Artifact set • Weapon A character having a "not well" designed kit can easily be balanced by their weapons and/or artifact sets Amber paired with the Elegy, from a clunky character becomes a good elementa reactions support (especially vaporise) Yanfei a well designed 4star pyro dps, with c4 and Prototype Amber becomes a healer, energy fixer and the best pyro shielder Genshin has so much horizontal complexity that even "badly" designed characters can carve a niche
Personality is so important in a character that it beats performance which is why I never took a liking to ganyu and her playstyle because its just aim and shoot which is boring to me. I like it when a character shows more of a need to have smooth gameplay.
I know thisn't particurlally what you asked but I will build any character and try to cram them into a team if I like their CHARACTER. I'm building Gorou, even though I dont have any geo main dps and no plans for one. I want to see the characters I like on screen and see them interact with the world. I put off pulling on Venti for so long, because I wasn't sure how much I liked his green/teal color palette. Literally thats it. I love his personality though and I'm happy that I decided to get him since he's so useful.
Question: Are there pros to "A Jack of All Trades" Characters? Like, sure, they're not a "Master of One", but Half a loaf is better than none. They can fill in multiple roles, maybe not masterfully but they reduce the number of slots/sacrifices needed.
Noelle? She can shield. Her shield is durable but it doesn't have good uptime (can be fixed by using sacrificial greatsword) She can heal while her shield is up. Using burst can increase healing She can be a support, healer, shielder, subdps or main dmg dealer But she's not that good at those things
Its the Vanilla of roles. When in doubt, the jack of all trades will do the job just fine. For example, you cant go wrong with Jean. Are there better healers, CCs, nukes, resistance shreders and dps? Yes to all but you wont find a unit for all of those slots than her. She can go on any team for her anemo and the access to Veredesent gives her that push the DPs of the team. Her healing nuke allows her to go even on a Geo team and it does a decent damage at the same time. Her CC its decent enough and can dispatch a respectable damage if mastered well. All of those reasons its why, regardless of meta, she always stays at the middle of the charts.
I'd definitely choose personality, but not just to one character. It's always fun testing out an old unit that isn't part of your main team. I have a main roster of characters I enjoy clearing dailies and similar, however, I choose to use the characters I do have to 'roleplay' during events, for example during the second lantern rite Osial wife event I used Geo Traveler, Beidou, Xinyan and Venti (yes he's my main), for the odd fighting event in Liyue I chose a geo-based team with Geo Traveler, Ningguang, Noelle and Venti (because every adventure needs a storyteller), for the recent Irodori festival I chose Electro Traveler, Xingqiu, Ayaka and (yes) Venti. The list goes on (but I've forgotten the rest) but in the end, it's always nice to try out a character you've put aside for a while, kind of like using a new unit weak or strong, it's still quite the experience!
Genshins problem is not characters. It's the content. If we had more abyss floor each forcing different play styles, like when abyss lectors and heralds encourage anemo and cryo or when that giant wolf encourages Geo or huge enemy numbers encourage venti and... It would make many characters viable. We need at least 50 floors instead of 12 with increase in difficulty and nicheness! Many whales or dolphins are bored because there is no use for their crazy God buildt teams. Every thing is doable too easily. There is just not enough focus on combat. Why do we even get events for us to mix spices? It's boring and not the main focus of the game. Or when we get event for whales to shine, there is no reward for record breaking whales. Why?
@@mariacancino95 fr most of us can't even clear floor 12, we need more endgame stuff but not everyone has god built teams that can one shot everything
@@xxri plus not everyone is interested in building god tier characters. I play for the story and because I like the characters. But as long as floor 12 of spiral abyss is the only real challenge in the game I have better things to do than to waste my time to farm godly artifacts. I'm almost glad my characters can't oneshot every enemy as the rest of the game would become even easier (=more boring).
@@lemonbunny71 spiral abyss is literally not even hard if you have a team, doesnt have to be god tier characters, just have one or two characters built with decent supports and its not that hard
To say Sumeru, Fontaine, etc. characters will be stronger because Inazuma's characters were stronger than Mondstat is misleading. The EARLY Inazuma characters were very strong, but after Raiden/Kokomi they haven't pushed the power envelope. Notice that there's a significant drop off in power level after the early Inazuma characters. Ayato, Itto, Shenhe, and Yae are still good characters, but they're not on the level of Kazuha, Ganyu, Hu Tao, Shogun, Ayaka, etc. Hoyoverse is being very careful with the powercreep of this game. If any powercreep happens with Sumeru, I'd imagine it's due to an accident of them overtuning Dendro reactions rather than a deliberate effort.
And he ignores the 4* Monstadt 4*: Bennett (busted af), Sucerose (one part of the holy Anemo trinity), Fischl (really good. Great flex pick/ good unconditional off field damage), Lisa (kinda eh but fine), Amber (meh/bad), Kaeya (good), Rosaria (second Kaeya so good), Diona (good), Noelle (fine, got better with Updates), Razor (eh), Barbara (eh) Liyue: Xiangling (really good), Xingqiu (king of Vape enabler, most flexible Hydro in game. Amazing), Xinyan (bad), Beidou (good), Ningguag (eh), Chongyun (eh but nice niche), Yunjin (until now a bit eh but has good potential), Yanfei (fine. Just outclassed) Inazuma: Say (okay. Worse Jean), Sara (without C6 pretty meh. Lisa does her job better), Gorou (pretty good). Like early 4* are still really relevant and the new one were pretty meh.
yanfei is actually quite a well designed character, i think you talked abt that in your "why no one plays yanfei" video. she plays by a set of rules and tho that might make gameplay boring sometimes, she's still able to be a good main dps with consistent damage esp for early game players.
i think that personality is definitely the most important to me. i just use character that i like or whose playstyle i enjoy. team comps don't rly matter to me either. i just throw my favorite characters together into a team. my usual overworld team is kequing, ayaka, venti and xiangling/lisa lol. obviously not optimal, but they get the job done and i have fun using them 🤷♀️
For the question at the end, its a mixed bag. I love Yoimiya as a character, but I never play her because she's so boring, and if I play her all day my finger hurts from tapping attack so much. Meanwhile I will still play Xinyan or Noelle even if I have stronger units because they're more fun to play imo, I just won't be bringing them to floor 12 or any floor that won't play to their strengths, depending on current rotation. Character versitility is arguaby most important. I don't have Raiden so, despite building C1 Sara, she's basically useless to me. Mona has also fallen by the wayside ever since I got Kokomi, similar with Ayaka because I find Ganyu more fun (and I got better Ganyu artifacts, my Ayaka has ER issues). I skipped Itto because apparently he may need a Geo team, but I will pull Yelan because she may be future proofed and work in many teams. Strong characters, e.g. Shenhe, aren't worth anything to me if they have limited teams that I won't want to play.
So you find spamming charged shots fun? Also, Mona and Kokomi are very different characters, with completely different roles, how did Kokomi replace Mona? Also, you should wait before getting Yelan. Just on first impressions, she appears to be another Xingqiu. Wait till people figure out how to play her. Also, you know Shenhe gives Ganyu a significant boost right?
@@killerspreet7318 Yes, I find freeze Ganyu and spamming charge shots on enemies that can't fight back fun, I think it's funny lol I put Kokomi in my Ganyu team instead of Ganyu, it makes it easier because I can keep Kokomi's hydro application up longer and keep enemies frozen longer Yes i know Shenhe is for cryo teams, I know this would be good for unfreezable enemies like bosses but it took me so long to farm Blizzard Strayer (like 6 months) I want to keep it on Ayaka/Ganyu at all times so Shenhe wouldn't work well, not worth the primos nor resin for artis and building her etc.
Beidou and Sayu are both very versatile and fun 4*s, even if they falter against bad matchups in the meta. I know Ayaka kinda broke the meta in many ways, but I really appreciate how straightforward her gameplay is, much like Diluc’s.
I loved raiden personally and pulled her at her first release when people complaining about her and.i also like playing her you really feel like. A God in her burst mode(i love that feeling) her burst gives her resistance to all interruption with high damage trying to get c2 but lost 50/50 with jean twice but i liked jean also and run her in second team jean and raiden are my 2 80+ level character
This reminds me when i got yanfei and fell in love with her because she was my first character in zhongli banner and i use her since day one because i loved that you can stomp enemies with a giant deer, and even tho i got diluc and my friends told me to use it because he is a four star and i was lucky and stuf i never get to the Pyro Riven, im starting to building him now because i see his potencial and he is really fun but is like, if i build him at the start and use him as my maim dps since day 1 it would seem forced and i really like both of them, same with keqing and raiden, the variety is the fun thing about this game, and building characters is entertaining, i cant wait to build physical dps Shinobu just because i think it would be fun even tho is not the way she is supposed to be played with but i will just because i love how she jumps in the air and literally uses one akali Q
For the question at the end; for me personally I decide if I should pull for a character or not depening on personality. I adore Venti, I loved him ever since I met him in the archon quest yet I skipped him since he's not that fun to play for me. How it feels to play a character is highest priority for me
For me well designed characters could be identified when all of their qualities work with each other - from personality, to lore background, to abilities and passives, etc. A good example is Hu Tao, as someone who is able to communicate with both the living and the dead it makes sense that she is strongest when she herself is close to death (below 50% hp) since she is treading the line between the living and the dead. Her personality also compliments her gameplay, you'd expect someone as chaotic as her to fight dashing and jumping across the battlefield which is what you exactly do with her charge attack cancels. Her color scheme and clothes also represents her well, the knots, the flowers, her hat, they all work to compliment what she is and what she does. And of course on the other side is the opposite of what I just said, an example for this is Kokomi. Her personality, lore, and abilities don't really mesh well with each other. Why on earth do we have a master strategist character that does not have any form of buffs that enhances the parties capabilities? Sure, she has a heal which represents her being a priestess but she does not have anything in her kit that represents her being a master tactician. Yes, she can wield Thrilling Tales and 4-PC tenacity set but they are not part of her actual kit. I'm a first run Kokomi haver and I don't hate her, I just think that she's such a missed opportunity for Hoyoverse.
I think the best part about Hu Tao's design is mostly how well you are rewarded for learning how to play her, especially before c1. Your average new player will either do little damage from healing too much or running out of stamina. If they don't heal constantly, she'll just die all the time. Zhongli (or another strong shield) does take away from this. But when I first got her, I learned so much about how to play the game and with some practice and investment her numbers really pay off. Thematically her gameplay and story are very in sync as you say. All-round a great character imo. Plus her team building has some nice complexity to it if you aren't just looking at a guide.
I agree with the Hu Tao part, although... I thought that Hu Tao lorewise doesn't like to fight, which is kinda weird considering that she is one of the strongest units in the game
I want effective characters but personality also greatly influences me. itto looks super fun to play and I like his personality so I'm going to pull for him even tho there are "better" 5* dps characters. I'm obsessed with eulas design and I like her playstyle (from trials) so whenever she gets a rerun I'm 1000% pulling for her even though, again, there are "better" dps characters I just really want to have them both because I adore them. On the flip side I don't care for gorous design and personality but I really want him for his niche itto support capabilities
"If a character is too strong, why bother building others". This is my problem for overpowered meta characters: Bennett, Xingqiu, Kazuha, Zhongli, Shogun. They trivialized the difficulty of the game from easy to baby game. Among this 5 I listed, only Bennett have the chance to be balanced just by virtue of fixing one glaring issue in his kit. Zhongli and Shogun can't be balanced since they are meant to be OP. Kazuha can't be balanced because his kit is completely made and the only issue is it's too perfect and the only way to balance it is removing a characteristic of his kit but would enrage the community if do so. Same goes with Xingqiu but the problem with Xingqiu is they overpack his kit for no actual reason, everything about his kit is saying this is a overdesigned kit and you can't do anything about it. Meanwhile Bennett is technically balanced at C0. There is a limit in his potential due to the 70% HP cap requirement for his Burst's effect to work. Some might hate me for saying this now but the only thing that can make Bennett balance is switching his C6 to his C1. Bennett's C1 is too overpowered for a first constellation, it removed the only barrier to Bennett that make him overpowered. for other character who did have that type of C1, it still make sense for them since their kit wasn't very packed but Bennett is. Making his C1 be his C6 would make a C1 Bennett be limited as a Pyro Support like other element's specific support: Sara, Gorou, and Shenhe. The current C6 Bennett is worst because his C1 removed his limitation and the C6 brings a limit to him again. If his C1 limits Bennett from the start, his new C6 would be more appreciated.
The problem is that i can't get those character no matter how much i pull for them =-= I've never gotten a Bennett from any wish banners that features him, and i only get a C1 Xingqiu from that Irodori festival event and 2nd Lantern Rite
@@Other-C I don't have much luck in me, but I'll give you a bit of my luck to bless you in your next pulls. Btw, there is a Bennett in this month's Paimon Bargain grab that as soon as possible.
I’d argue that the older units aren’t over-kitted but that the new units are underwhelming. It seems like they purposely make units bad, give them horrible scaling, and think it’s fine since people are going to spend money anyways. Honestly it’s infuriating, especially with how many Inazuma units got cucked in the process. And anemo isn’t strong because of their element, they’re strong because of VV specifically. Bennett is fine, but you need to design characters that MATCH his strengths. I don’t understand why they’re going to reverse powercreep route. Unless their goal is to minimize powercreep as much as possible but it’s not hard balancing units to be good..
@@TacticalDimples What you mean? Xingqiu literally does everything. He deals lot of damage, has consistent hydro application and interruption resistance, can be a battery and heal. The reason why new 4 stars are underwhelming is because Hoyo doesn't want to create flexible and powerful characters like him, Bennett, Xiangling,...
One aspect I like in games is giving the players ways of avoiding damage that aren't just use this big shield. The dodging mechanic in genshin is extremely bad as they limit you to 2 dodges before you can dodge again, but there are time when you want to dodge more than that. When you do dodge you need to release the movement key to stop the character from sprinting else you will burn through your stamina, but if you do you are staying still and assuming you don't have a shield, you are then going to be ragdolled till you dash out of the animation......buut if you have no stamina then you have to just take the ragdoll. And lastly the dodging mechanic in genshin is highly inaccurate as there are times when you can dodge an enemy's attack and other times when using the dash at the same time you will get knocked across the map and this last point is the most frustrating. However I doubt that most player are going to notice these thing because 95% of the player base has zhongli and that gives Hoyo an excuse to not fix the dodging mechanic.
Omg THIS. I honestly dislike using shields and only use them when absolutely necessary (looking at you azhdaha), because it just feels braindead at times. And is part of the reason I main Beidou.
And then there's also the fact than you automatically enter sprint if you press dodge for more than 0.5 seconds, and to exit sprint you ...have to stop pressing the directional button. Like, why not just separate dodge to press and sprint to hold, for example.
I feel like Kokomi (yes I'm a Kokomi main) fits every single one of the categories. She's a great healer and dmg dealer at very low investment, she can efficiently fit in any team comp, she can do decent dmg on her own but can be S tier the game with the correct team comp, and her kit it imo one of the best. She's also the 3rd most fun character to dps to me (1st Keqing, 2nd Sucrose)
@@RA-ux3fu she's barely split scaling considering that hp does less for her than healing bonus, and there's only one artifact that can be healing bonus unlike def, atk, or just pure hp. The -100 crit rate would have actually made her broken, that's the only reason why they did it. Edit: also, she's the most unique character and isn't easy to be replaced which is a very good design. Only problem I do have with her is her shitty scaling
@@levisamom5069 The thing is that we don't see a good passage of time in Genshin, so it'd be better to have seen her struggling at least a bit to deal with the issues she caused during the Sakoku period. Lots of people see it as "Oopsie, I guess I did a poopsie. Okay everyone, free travel permits, have your gems back" and the people went automatically "Yay, thank you almighty narukami ogosho shogun! We love you!" Her lifting the decree in her part 2 history was okay, but we could have at least one more part to see her working to make Inazuma a better place, and improving her relationship with Kokomi. The vision hunt decree ruined lots of lives after all.
I started Genshin Impact really early. Up till version 1.3 I didn't really care too much about which units I was using, I was just doing it on the mood. But then Xiao was released. I have been maining him ever since. I love his gameplay and he still is my favourite character in Genshin Impact up to today. His kit is simple but interesting to use. Many people joke about his burst being "pogo stick simulator" but there is simply something amusing in decimating waves of enemies with just his plunges or simply being able to use him against almost all enemies, without any problems at all. I find it rather sad that he is falling off the meta for a long time now but it can't be helped.
I love Diluc till this very day. He reminds me of Soldier 76 in Overwatch. The character that anyone can pick up and play. He isn't the most powerful DPS by means but he'll get the job done and I love characters like that. He's just good ol' reliable, just ashame I don't have Diluc myself xddd. I also love his backstory but that's besides the point.
Funnily enough soldier 76 is what made me lose faith in overwatchs balance team and quit the game for good it never made sense to me why such an easy character like him should be stronger than mcree or widow who are so much harder to play Low risk high reward, making picking high risk characters pointless. Terrible philosophy imo
I'd say that their gameplay is definitely the most important thing in a character Though personality does have a large effect in getting you to pull for them That was actually the case for me with Yae Miko. I didn't know about her skills and i didn't know about synergies but because of her impressions from the archon quest and Gorou hangout, I fully set my sights on getting her Also, Miko is an onfield enabler and this is the hill I'll die on
Exactly. People Wishing Ganyu because she's HOT (myself include ) and DEMN...~ SHE's SMACK hard that Cryo number But imagine if she's turn out BAD ? Poor those people especially F2P & Low spender Yeah ? Also Good for you accepted Yae Miko even though she's.... Well CN community know better than me so I won't say it. Gave a great day 🤗
@@Chopsparillo i see a lot of people comparing her to fischl because, yes her kit can function similarly but from what i found, she's less clunky as an on-field charged-attack dps her skill is focused more on movement and dodging while reserving her stamina for charged attacks i wouldn't say that she has a best pairing to enable but i personally play her with thoma and i imagine that she would also pair well with other off-field dpss like xingqiu, xiangling and now yelan miko feels bad to play as a secondary fischl because her totems are more so designed for movement and increasing her overall damage the longer she's on field future damage comparisons might do well to include her totems when calculating her on-field damage
I just saw a video about Yelan and if she is worth pulling for, and it made me realize something funny about Genshin players perception about the characters design: When considering meta picks and the spyral abyss, a character that isn't a main DPS taking more field time is considered a bad thing. So if you go with that logic, a well designed character is someone that you have to play as little as possible to get maximum value. I can't think of other games where people want characters that they don't actually get to play, just use bursts and swap.
I was just discussing with a friend right before this video how id buff some characters in genshin and not big buffs but changes the make their kits better. Amber was a big one for me because I'm currently using her as a main staple of my team and have been for a like 2 weeks. I'd want to make her C2 naturally a part of her kit and make it so any changed atk not just a foot shot makes the BB explode. Second id move her C4 to be C2 and replace her c4. Not sure with what maybe a faint style skill like if she dies she drops a BB but im actually not sure it was just an idea. Id also maybe buff her 2nd combat passive but idk it just feels weak. A lot of characters could use minor tweaks to feel even just slightly better. Also fun characters all the way I love team crafting and making niche builds. Healer Xingqui is the best thing I've ever done. At any point I can use Eula Raiden or Ganyu but I tend to use random stuff instead. Dmg Yunjin I've been trying to get people on board. Trust me her scaling on her skill is crazy just try it in a geo team and her dmg is insane
i like characters like xiangling xingqiu fischl bennnett diona kazuha sucrose cause even if a new unit outclasses them in what they do they still remain their ground as a solid choice in a team, unlike dps characters who have their usage rate going up and down depending on the abyss
@@michapiasta3072 tbh bennett could get nerfed in a way with units like eula who can’t actually utilise him efficiently, or more of yunjin/gorou/sara type units
I feel Venti has kind of a red mark on him that prevents him from being well-designed. His ability to crowd control is so absolute where either enemies are affected by it and he's effective and fun to use, or they aren't affected and playing him feels very bad. I don't feel it's much of him fitting into a niche as future enemies like Kairagi seemed to be designed around not letting players with Venti "cheat" the game and fight fairly. Other Anemo characters with CC suffer from this too but Venti most of all.
i think the problem with kairagi is that hoyoverse wanted to encourage players to use characters that don't have CC abilities because why use character with crowd control focused kit if the enemies in question have some kind of resistance to it.
thats literally not true, his pull power is still strong (arouns as much as kazuha's pull after E) regardless of how big the enemies are, its just that they arent picked up. Venti is not like "If enemy small he OP, if enemy big he useless", its more like "If enemy small he OP, if enemy big he good"
I feel like Genshin's monster design could be the subject to a whole another video by Vars haha As they seem to be heading into a wall imo. Most of the recent enemies designs recently seem to be more focused more around "trying to make previously OP units less prevalent" and less around "making an enemy that feels fair yet challenging, thus fun to fight" Though they still haven't made a single monster more obnoxious than the Lawarchurls (might come from having the farm the Blizzard Domain straight after farming the Emblem one for months though haha)
Idk why people think characters were specifically designed to go against venti…like you guys are overthinking it. Not every enemy is light weight; it’s really that simple
@@K.G444 My comment was a bit more general and with other characters than Venti in mind. I don't have Venti so didn't even think of him haha But sorry if it came across as what you're referring to
It would be really cool to have the option of more challenges in the Spiral Abyss that require different units. It would be cool to have the normal one that resets regularly but also several other ones which focus on different elements, weapons or even something like lore (Mondstadt Challenge which allows only characters from that region to participate. This could be done for every region). Having this kind of optional content would encourage the usage of a variety of characters and investing in specific characters would feel more rewarding. If anyone has no any additions or thoughts on this, I'd love to hear your opinion.
On the Diluc part, I guess I am weird, I have both him and Hu Tao and I like him more. I feel in terms of pyro damage he fits my team more. ( Yes both are fully built)
I definitely prefer a character's playstyle over their damage. High numbers look nice, but it's not worth it to me if I'll be bored of them by the time the patch ends. As a spender, it'd feel like a slap in the face to be wasting my money on something I won't enjoy. I built my Ganyu and Raiden to support my Kaeya and I use underpowered units like Diluc, Childe, and Itto just cause I know I won't be bored. Not my cup of tea to be walking in circles doing charges with Ganyu's bow or spamming the attack button on Ayato or Yoimiya. (Not trying to take the piss on people that like those characters, just my opinion).
I think kokomi is a well design character. Building her was very easy and since i didn't have to prioritize crit rate and crit damage i can get good consistent damage and very potent healing at the same time.
I think opposite. She is to basic, her strenght is 2 base mechanics (heal and hydro aura application). This make her solid at the moment but impossible to NOT power creep her. Any true hydro suport should be better than her. Of course MHY can make all future hydro unit weaker and more basic than others given how good hydro is, but i doubt this make people happy in long run.
Agree, too many people attack Kokomi without understanding how to play her. I laugh when people complain that she doesn't do damage when her role is a healer and she does more damage than Diluc.
I would say personality. Much of what makes early game fun is the diversity of abilities and the feeling that every character fills a niche in some way, such as Amber's importance as a puzzle-solving archer and Noelle's role as a shielder-healer.
Kokomi feels well designed for me because her lack of damage (i.e. her damage is hard capped due to bubble limitation) makes you think of entire teams and not just buffing the carry.
My take on 11:25. It's necessary to have those op units because I feel like as a mostly free to play player (I bought like 4-5 Welkins) it would otherwise be nearly impossible to build enough characters to manage all the Abyss rotations, which is why those units are needed to bruteforce some of the Abyss content. I see those op 4 stars as a leverage for free to plays players.
Personality is important to me though the only time I went for the meta over Personality was Shenhe for Ganyu. I needed that powerful bow user but now that I have her I don't see her much in the abyss at the moment. Definitely getting Shenhe when she comes back.
Hello Vars, can you please look into Prototype Amber? It's the only real good craftable catalyst that changes the play archetype of a lot of characters. I run healing bonus on Amber Mona+Zhongli as a mini Bennett
I couldn't give a fuck about a characters kit or playstyle. They either need to have a good personality and/or have a good VA(I'm a seiyuu simp lol). My requirements on pulling a character is extremely irrelevant sometimes. Like for example, the only reason I pulled for hutao was because I'm a fan of her JP VA. Didn't bother to test her or wait for the reviews. And at first I didn't like her playstyle because I hated staying low health and i have bad timings with regards to charged attacks and animations cancelling. Ofcourse over time I've managed to pick up a few moves so I can use her but she's definitely not someone I use all the time. Like I pulled for Eula simply because she fucking sneezed in her character trailer. That's literally all that took for me. The only unit I pulled for even though I'm not a fan of their personality was Zhongli and that was simply because I'm a Ningguang main and my girl needed them extra elemental RES shred.
So much conversation about combat, meta and rotations...I can't even remember the last time I saw someone else start a conversation about exploration, traversal and all the adventuring aspects of Genshin... :|
Personality & Performance kinda' overlap or go hand-in-hand with each other, do they not? Anyway, I'd pick personality(playability). If a character is fun to play, we most likely find a way to make them work. Jean is good but I'd rather much play Kokomi with Shenhe as both healer & crowd control despite taking to 2 slots and Shenhe being a Cryo damage buffer rather than a crowd control unit. Genshin Impact can be a game that makes you play the way you want it, kinda. We have options to choose from. So, why not have fun with it?
I agree with last sentence. Sadly,Most casual just _LAAAZZZYYY_ to invest more. Imma use Ittou as example. A bit badadim-badabum and *THERE* U got big damage. Noelle CAN reach his damage but required more time & investment. Which Again. Casual player don't go that route (unless that bored or something). Not just Genshin. Any online game with gacha will always have lazy folks.
imo kazuha is not really well made bc his selling point which is the dmg boost is his passive. hyv could give it to sucrose, sayu or jean if they want to edit: imagine they gave kazuha passive to venti instead of the energy refund 💀💀. no one would ever pull for kazuha
if we break down kazuhas kit, we can see that his entire kit is EACH HALF OF VENTI BURST. his E sucks enemies in and his burst deals aoe dmg with ele. absorption which are all packed in venti black hole. additionally, his E is also ventis hold E. in conclusion, kazuha were lack of identity if he didnt have his OP passive
@@vht1 I strongly disagree. Kazuha is better version of Venti, that's why I was wondering why Venti is on a preview. His skillset is much more convenient (cc has lesser cooldown and is overall better, because enemies are gathered on a groun and not mid-air, also exploration is designed much more interesting). Venti is a one-job man, Kazuha is what Venti should have been.
I think for me a mix of performance and personality is what i need in a character. I don't care if so and so is meta defining. Ganyu was a mainstay for so long and still is but I didn't care about her for the longest time. I ended up getting ayaka who I felt was more fun (and still do feel that way) And to me tartaglia and itto are the most fun characters in the game Tartaglia isn't just some brain dead easy pick up. He requires you to be able to manage time and rewards you in the comps he's strong in (taser and reverse vape) And itto is just a fun beatem up character. He's dynamic in that you can be brain dead and go unga bunga but he has so much depth to his kit that if you wish to master him you will be rewarded for optimizing his combo routes. They are both so well designed and fun. I love my two boys so much
Pllllsssssss 🙏❤️❤️❤️😖make a video About (why everyone plays Bennett sucrose xainqu and Xainling) Bennett can get his own video but the other Three can be in a group video. . Here are some pinpoints of their attributes that make them amazing Sucrose . Best accessible crowd control burst with big Aoe . Vv and ttds buffs . Insane em sharing /The best em buff at f2p lvl . Anemo catalyst so lots of swirl damage . Best con is c1 so makes her very accessible // Xingqu . Best hydro reaction enabler . Hydro clans . Small heal from passive Elemental skills nuke when vaped. Amazing signal target damage. Best con is c2 or c3 so also easy to get. // Xainling Gouba cute. Big Aoe burst damage that follows the active character that can snap shot buffs and has no. icd Great synergy in pyro teams. Literally free with her best weapon being free as well. // Bennett pyro archon everyone knows he is the best and I could write an essay About him, and I still think he deserves his one episode Ps. Sucrose and xainqu are the only 4 Stars that have material saving talents
people play this team because its advertised as the best 4 star team (national), but the team works together well because bennett is a buffer who buffs the whole teams damage, xiangling and xingqiu are off field dps, and sucrose is for swirling everything together to provide reactions and defence shred. the team works together really well and its also why raiden shogun works instead of sucrose as well
"when Yelan comes out" Ah, and I remember lucking into her rerun just recently... Actually got into the game just after her debut, so catching up on videos like these is an experience akin to digging up older siblings' time capsules.
If it’s performance vs personality, I have to go with personality. Let me take a great example that I have a lot of experience with. That example being Ayato vs Tartaglia. I have both of these characters and I love playing both. And it is no competition that Ayato is the better unit. But… while he does better damage, he’s not as fun to play as Tartaglia. While Tartaglia has a lot of cooldown problems, it’s interesting to have to work around it, and he works wonderfully as a duel DPS (in fact, I’m looking forward to playing him with Heizou in the future for that reason). I have been using Ayato for over a month, and while he makes the game really easy, it feels too mindless… I like Tartaglia’s kit more because it’s more quick swap and versatile and his riptide mechanic is a whole lotta fun. Soooooo… yeah! That’s all!
In terms of well designed I really think everyone can agree that Ayaka was a pretty thought out character. Her kit, E skill, and burst works well, plus her damage output is pretty good, excluding her dash as it gets clunky at times, she’s a 10/10 dps.
That’s a good point about Bennett. I like using him and he’s going to he a main stay on my team for a good long while, but him meshing well with literally every character by boosting their attack DOES take away from fun combos. I’ve had a hard time deciding whether to remove him from my team for a specific challenge/domain because there is no other combo of characters that consistently does what he does and that’s kind of the issue for me. Not to make the game totally unplayable mind you, but I recently got Yelan and I’ve been agonizing bc I want to have a four element team but I can’t because I’m using Diluc and Bennett who are both Pyro qwq. Honestly, I’m considering switching him out for Diona because she’s the only other leveled healer I’ve got. Dunno if this made much sense, it’s just nice to see a take like this one.
I think Noelle is very well designed. Well, apart from maybe her energy recharge issues. I like to think that she’s the Mario of the roster. Well-rounded and balanced, and skilled at multiple things. While not the best in any of them, she performs well enough to be considered a goid choice. She can shield, she can heal, she can do damage, she can tank, she has a rotation-safe infusion, and she has some significant AoE in her burst. She truly is a wondermaid
The only issue is that she kinda needs c6 to do well. I have her there but I’m still very hesitant to build her because of her play style and the characters I have rn. She’s really good and I’ve seen what she can do at her full potential
Personaly I mostly enjoy unique playstiles mixed with reliability. For example my main team consists if Diluc, Beidou, Rosalia and Barbara. Depending on domains I might change any one of them to Sucrose. Diluc and Rosalia being my two main sources of dps. Beidou both being a tank and a dps support with Overload and Superconduct. And Barbara being a hydro aplicator support and top tier healer. I can reliably take on any type of enemy and tank most types of damage due to Barbara's healing. I have not yet farmed enough to just slay any domain yet but it's only a time issue tbh
Personality ofc, I'm a f2p player even so if I'm not having fun with a character it's bad in my opinion, also the characters actuall in game personalities is a huge factor in that
I still hate Shenhe. What they did to her constellations really got to me. It feels like rather than designing Shenhe first then adding onto her kit with constellations, instead it seems as if they designed her then chopped massive pieces of her kit away to lock them behind constellations and that just pissed me off. It's like no one except whales will ever be allowed to play Shenhe the way she was originally designed to be played, and in a game where getting a C6 can cost thousands of dollars or literally years worth of primo's that's just something I can't accept.
@@killerspreet7318 No. Childe is just as good at C0 as he is at c6. He has 15% damage increase which is nothing. The only thing his constellation adds is an easier playstyle... Which is just a question of skill. Also qiqi... Nothing gets really added aside from a revive at C6 that nobody needs anyway.
As mush as people hated on Kokomi, I love her design. She brought something new to the game no other character had, which was her intended gameplay of being an all rounder between damage and healing through her split scaling. The closest battle healer we had was Jean, but Kokomi stood out with completely focusing on one stat, hp. She's a great character with a really unique kit and I feel like she's a refresher from the annoying crit ratios everyone's so obsessed with
Well, first of all, their design needs to resemble a well
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I feel like beidou is a pretty well designed character, she rewards you for actually paying attention to the game (perfect counters) instead of just mindlessly clicking all avilable abilities. She obviously has some issues but at least she does what she is meant to do while being fun to play
Im a beidou main and I think she is one of most lost potential character. Her burst hass one of worst mechanism, having a minimum and maximum numbers of enemies. U need min 2 and max 4 character for her burst to perform. Her burst already has an aoe so having max no of enemy is stupid.
she stuggles with poor enemie AI
As a Beidou main since I started the game, her playstyle is so burned into my memory that I find it hard playing as anyone else. Despite having Ayaka for about a month now, she's only a sub DPS and still dies way more than I'd like
As someone who sucks at timing my attacks this is exactly why I don't use her 🙈
I also struggled with the counter-mechanic event we had not too long ago...
Personally I think Beidou has design issues due to how her focus looks like it should be the counter, but in actuality her burst is the real hard hitting part of her kit. They did it much better with Yunjin since that's all Yunjin has for personal damage and they added the work around of just holding it for longer if you can't be bothered to time it.
I remember seeing Beidou counter do like 70k during the first 2-3 months of the game and that being so awesome, now it's so focused around how her burst works and it's so uninteresting. As someone said before, it also plays around a cap, 2 enemies minimum and 4 max for good dps, any less or more then your damage falls off so hard you might as well not use Beidou.
Fischl is op in ST so you'd think "Oh Beidou is better in AoE right?" when in fact she's best at 2 enemies... which is a sizable dps increase from Fischl but is it really enough to matter? I think the only thing saving Beidou right now is the fact that there isn't a better AoE 4* Electro unit, unless you count Kujou Sara being able to hit like 120k on her burst or c6 Lisa hold E doing like 150k with proper set up lol
But yeah, Beidou is really cool, her counter is really cool, but it's not even that good. It's a mechanic you have to learn to play around for less reward than just pressing Q then swapping to Ayato/Childe lol
i feel like jean is well-designed character she is very versatile as she can heal, deal damage, and debuff with vv but is not very overpowered. She has lot of teams she can fit in but her most notable ones would be sunfire and xiao hypercarry team
Every time I fail 50/50 I pray for my first Jean.
What I love about Jean's design is how simple it is yet how versatile she is
ive been using jean for everything ever since i got her and yes she's very reliable tbh
Yeah even tho I would cry if I get her on a banner I want. She’s pretty good and easy to build helped me out early game and I’m using her more with xiao
@@2triedforthis830 jean is actually one of the best xiao supports you can get especially if you have her c2 and c4 which give atk speed buff and decrease anemo res which greatly boosts xiaos damage
I think, lack of high level content locks potential of most characters. There's a lot of possible challenges beyond DPS check that can be created.
Like what? Healing check? Defense check? It all comes back to DPS check.
The end game content, yes ...
this game lack of this ...just abyss is the endgame content now (gathering and exploring is the main content) ...
I would have they add the event that on Childe 2nd rerun (i forget the name) to be the another endgame content ...
If Co-Op had greater focus then healers like Qiqi and Barbara would actually be a lot better, because they could heal other players while those players focus on damage.
@@Ayasegaki Well, a mode that's about endurance, about lasting the longest rather than a mere dps check (the example i think of is like the slaughterhouse in borderlands 2) would incentivize the use of characters that can help survivability.
@@Ayasegaki If they focused more on Co-op experience, such as adding Raids, then healers would become much more useful. Maybe something like a sort of Call of Duty Zombies mode where players have to fend off waves of monsters, and the numbers keeps on increasing over and over again. This would also make healers stronger.
Personally I think combat animations can be one of the things that make up a good checters design for example catalysts have flashy animations but feel bad to use on the other hand melee characters aren't flashy but have smother Gameplay
Before i watch the video. Here’s my personal take on what makes a character well designed, in terms of their kit (well designed=/=strong or meta in this case. Unfortunately you can have an amazing kit but still be weak if your numbers are bad)
A well designed character kit to me, is one that has a clear direction and intent, and one that follows said direction. A character that’s focused on one goal in mind and that ties together to reach said goal. The two examples that i can think of off the top of my head are Raiden and Yanfei. Both vastly different in power levels but in common with the fact that they have a very well thought out kit. Raiden’s entire kit centers around ER, batterying your team while also doing good damage. And her kit ties into that perfectly. From Her ascension stat being ER, her Her Q’s energy restoration mechanics and numbers, her A4 further amplifying her damage and energy restoration. You can tell Hoyo knew exactly what they were doing with Raiden.
Yanfei is also a very well designed kit imo but one that is just lacking in power. She’s meant to be a Charge atk DPS through her scarlet seals mechanics, and again. Everything about her kit, just all comes together to fullfil that goal. Scarlet seals increasing charge atk damage and reducing it’s stamina cost, etc. those two character kits are very cohesive and logical with their main objective. No random tacked on ascension passives (looking at you, Yae), no out of place abilities. Everything makes sense
As someone who used Yan Fei to carry my team from mid-late game, I think that her kit is fantastic. Everything in her kit is there to support her stacking scarlet seals for maximum charged attack damage. Her elemental skill, burst, constellations, and ascension passives cohesively come together to make her a charged attack focused main dps. The only thing that holds her back is her numbers, but she has one of the most cohesive kits in the game imo.
before vid begins, best 5* imo: Zhongli, Ganyu, Xiao are best designed
this is so true
Yeah, I agree about Yanfei. It's not her fault that her damage is overshadowed by other 5 star characters. It's simply because of how the game is supposed to be. 5 star will always have better stats eventho their kit is kinda bad. There is nothing really out of place with Yanfei's kit.
@@seansaechao1798 Yes, I have her C5 and started maining her when she first released. It’s only later that I got her cons and boy, it makes her even more powerful. I agree that her numbers hold her back (the highest I got with melt was 58720 with Bennett and her talents 8-9-10 at lvl 80) but she’s a well-fledged char and all things in her kit makes sense unlike Diona C4.
As far as design goes, there's a single question you need to ask yourself when looking at a character's appearance.
Does the character have horns?
If yes, they've got a good design.
Simple.
Ganyu 😌😌😌
First thing I thought of was Homestuck lol
Childe, Dilluc, Kazuha and Yanfei always stood out to me as well designed characters. Childe IMO is the most unique character and embodies the theme of Genshin's party combat system. He is like the perfect member. He boosts your teams Attack by one talent, hydro element can be used offensively or as a support for other elements. And finally his unique Skill cool down implements swapping between characters. Dilluc is well thought out, even if he is power crept. Nothing needs to be said about kazuha, anemo is great for CC, 40% VV shred and elemental damage boost from his kit makes him one of the best supports in the game. Yanfei's entire kit is very well made, all of her mechanics work perfectly. She's only held back by the fact she is a 4*.
Ok Kazuha is not well designed. He is simply too OP and can be placed in almost any team and he will improve it significantly.
imo Yanfei's charge atks should consume less stamina even with the sigils
I think that this what should make a well designed main dps, is a trade of power the main dps has and cons/ requirements it has. For example: Tartaglia is extremely flexible due to stance change and element, very powerful against crowds, he has literally quadratic scaling on his riptide against multiple opponents, but to make you take advantage of this feature, you must learn how to manage coldowns and have crowd control party members.I think that Xiao good example of very well designed main dps character as well. He is very good main dps, despite being anemo, which is both his biggest advantage and disadvantage, it makes him jack of all trades, master of none when it comes to fighting almost every kind of enemy or elemental shields. He will shred through every shield quickly using his anemo plunge attacks, but not as quickly as other main dps with elemental advantage to that type of shield type. His burst gives him really huge buff, but it has a it's price, energy and health drain cons. Ninguang as geo main dps has similar advantages to Xiao, geo is good against everything almost, but isn't the best against anything. Diluc is another exaple, hr doesn't really gets any buffs from his kit besides pyro infusion, but he is pyro and uses claymore so he can utilise reaction really well and destroy shields easily due to weapon type, but to do that he need hydro supports. There are more well designed main dps characters like Itto and Ayato, but it would take long time to explain each of them. There are also characters like Hu Tao and Ganyu destroyed that trend of this trade of. Hu Tao is good example of case when character has such trade of, but it's unequal. Her gameplay is risky, but buffs she receives are too high for that. Her elemental skill infusion shouldn't be as powerful or should introduce another restriction other than taking some health, but she her design concept is really good in it's core. Ganyu on other hand has very safe gameplay, so she can send spam nuke charged attacks from her bow safely, has dash/taunt+application of cryo on her elemental skill and her burst makes her good as support. But there is no justification for such power. No real restriction or requirement. Even Hu Tao has a requirement in her kit, that tries to justify her power. Ganyu has none. Bow gives her easy infusion and safe range she can attack from sending charge attacks with enormous scaling, basically better version of Mona's elemental skill what makes her good cryo applicator and burst is also very good for support. Raiden is broken too, even more than Ganyu, but Raiden is broke because of her design, she is archon so she has to have some kind of broken utility. Venti has the best crowd control and is excellent debuffer, with very neat energy recharge capabilities, also provides a lot of exploration benefits Zhongli has the best shield in entire game making you invincible, has very good nuke that grands also freeze reaction like crowd control, destroys geo shields and ores easily, shreds resistances even those rare as geo and anemo and buffs all geo constructs. Raiden is best battery in whole game, very good main dps at c0 and the best in the game at c3. She is very good in all kind of teams that need energy and additionally can easily outdps your main dps.
@@killerspreet7318 Totally agree... that's the reason I don't play him anymore. Accept in Keqing comp, because I love her but she isn't the strongest.
@@God_abandoned_us_all wouldnt say Xiao is a nicely designed main dps I main him and he can shred shields not a lot of enemies have high anemo res, but his ult outlasts any buff you can give him, and he need particles plus his cooldowns were made with anemo resonance in mind. Honestly they should shorten his Q duration and decrease the energy required to use it, in a way so it stays the same as now it justs lasts shorter so it can be buffed for its full duration also hoyoverse literaly hates Xiao, Yunjin and Heizu were rumored to be "anemo gorou's" but they werent, geo has a good offensive resonance, giving us an anemo gorou a better anemo resonance will mean a lot to Xiao and possibly another Anemo main dps in the future
I consider Beidou as one of Genshin's well-designed characters in terms of lore, gameplay, and power level. For the lore, she is pretty much a very strong person that carried herself from being a nobody to where she is today, earning the respect of her crewmates and pretty much most of the people in Liyue. Gameplay-wise, I personally enjoy it the most ever since I got her. While the game is arguably easy, it incentivizes you from observing the enemy's attack patterns by timing in your E counters, a rewarding play style. Her burst does a lot of damage in a situation where there are multiple enemies, which is most of the time. Because of this, she solidify herself in taser teams. And finally, when it comes to power level. She is overall a solid unit that doesn't take-over any character's role whatsoever, since she contributes to the whole team by doing on-field and off-field damage while being almost flexible when it comes to team combinations. The only problems I could think off about her are single enemy DPS drop, doesn't work with Raiden, and energy issues.
Regarding Raiden-Beidou, I tend to stagger their Bursts so they don't interfere with each other. I will always run Xingqiu with them, since his Burst is pretty much permanently up due to how much energy generation Raiden provides. It can feel a bit clunky, if you aren't used to an "unclean" rotation, but they can work. You just have to be mindful that Beidou's Burst and Raiden's Burst can't proc each other. It does give a near 100% Electro-charged reaction uptime with Xingqiu, which is bonkers for large mob packs. But then we start getting into Electro problems, not character issues, where it's the weaker single target Element compared to Cryo/Pyro.
For me, just in gameplay, it goes something like this:
Fun to use even if its mediocre > boring to use but efficient > Not a fan of the game play but i have no other alternative > clunky to use but overpowered > clunky and underpowered
As long it feels just right to play and its fluid enough in its role, ill play that unit regarless of meta.
I comepletly agree with you. That's why i didn't pull for Xiao. I really like him, but his clunky in his gameplay, i would lose too much time in abbys ;;
i also agree with you! i almost pulled yae before trying out her trial run and she's so clunky
I think Itto is well-designed and well-balanced. He's a easy-to-pick-up dps character with straightforward gameplay that, crucially, feels good to play. Itto's gameplay loop feels like it was designed perfectly around his himbo personality too, which is a plus.
with all of this he has enough complexity that if you start to care about optimizing combos and such you can. Itto is such a well designed and balanced unit!
The problem with Itto is that he kinda needs zhongli, albedo and gorou, as in, all geo characters play best with other geo characters, he’s not a particularly interesting main dps outside of geo because he offers absolutely nothing other than damage which might as well be physical in most scenarios.
@@impendio itto only need gorou his best team litteraly dont use zhongli cause he gain résistance to interruption by his ult and gorou ult
@@impendio thats a geo element problem, not an itto problem
@@theolailheugue9402 And since he almost only does geo damage you can have any off-field damage dealer of another element and he will get a constant stream of shields.
Personality, Diluc was the first character that clicked with me during his quest and I wanted him ever since, I wouldn't get him until Yoimiya's banner trying to get Thoma, I think, and now I still use him a lot even if I have a stronger Hu Tao in my account
Thoma wasn't released during Yoimiya's banner... He was paired with Hu Tao's rerun banner.
@@MrGelexone you're right, mb, it was Sayu's release
Diluc is just super versatile and easy to use
I feel like Albedo is an extremely underrated character. He's one of few characters that does damage with the wasteful defense artifacts and gives a consistent extra damage to any other character on the field even without him being out himself. Plus, with just how many crystallize shields he makes per tick of his skill is almost like having a strong ass shielder like Zhongli. I never go into the Raiden boss without him. And you have to think and pay attention with him as well when fighting bosses because the flower can be knocked out easily with one solid attack. Keeps you on your toes. Not to mention he's just a joy to run around with. I love him so much. Idk why people complain about the elevator going up in the middle of battle, just have to plunge attack, lol.
I 1000% agree. I made a second account and got him and was overjoyed. After he got the new husk set and his 4* weapon he just became better imo and easier to use. He’s amazing in a lot of dps teams like hu tao and Xiao and maybe even Ayaka ( I use Ayaka and him together and they do pretty well) and he’s just super fun to play with dealing good dmg himself.
@@2triedforthis830 mhm! I'm really upset that I won't be able to give him his weapon for my second account, since I only just a few days ago am able to play it without lagging to hell and back, lol. Not gonna stop me from playing him when I do get him on it tho, I love him too much
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Even though i don't own Albedo, i agree with this. But i just don't like that he seems like just a good pair with Zhonghli. They did Albedo dirty with that in my Opinion. Imagine him beeing a different element. Or maybe even switch elements, that would make him way more viable and stronger. And would fix a lot. I guess he can make geo shields easy, but that isn't gonna last forever. And that elevetor is literally useless outside of the exploring of course. What is it supposed to do? Reach frickin Ruin Guards Eyes or something? I guess? Very weird design from Hoyo.
@@chaosinfernoid9008 I can't see him built any different, and I've never had an issue with his elevator in combat, it's even helped me a several times times. That might be because I'm a Xiao main tho, idk, I just like plunge attacks with any character, lol. The only change that I'd make if I could is make him complete build off defense, and not his skill on defense and then burst on attack. That would be the best change they could make to him if you ask me.
Diluc is the most balanced character they ever created and yes, he may power crept by other now but he still good to use on spiral abyss and clearing game content, he IS NOT that bad like some people think
edit: for the love of god, he is the type of "Damage per second" NOT "Damage PER SCREENSHOT"
im a day1 player (AR59) and im still using diluc for abyss
I enjoy Dilucs gameplay! He was my first 5050 loss (lost for HuTau) and first five star. After playing HuTaus story I’m so glad I got Diluc instead.
He carried me until around AR55, when I finally decided that I have like 3 benched 5 stars that are some of the best in game, so I started to use them, but, he's still by far the easiest to play and still lasted me quite a while in the game. There's really nothing wrong with him that's not reserved to just him, as clunky-ness is something in a lot of claymores and damage output won't matter much throughout most of the game.
legit im envious of any one who pulls diluc on noelle banner.... they have and amaizing fun to play dps who can acompany them till the end of their journey as their main
Only until people discover how xiangling is a gap in pyro dps 🤣
I believe Rosaria is also up there as one of the well designed 4-star:
-Cyro resonance and has assess to melt/freeze/superconduct (physical) teams, and her kit applies cyro consistently;
-Her skills is coherent with burst and shares high scaling;
-Constellations are really solid, boosting her own damage potential , energy and team buffing ability;
-Gains access to scarce team Crit sharing and got the only movement speed utility passive in the game currently
@bird she is a support and a cryo support at that. Her multipliers on E and Q are very good. Just bcoz her C6 has Phys support capability doesn't mean she is a phys dps (if anything its phys support). Also it doesnt matther that she was seen using a phys weapon in character trailer, Yunjin was using dragon's bane.
Yeah Rosa is on my gathering and mining team for that passive.
@@parthpurwar her A1 C1 buff herself, A4 C6 buff the team, she's a weird hybrid. C1 especially that encourages her being a main dps
@@avic7248 doesn't mean she is a phys support and still not a dps at C1
@@parthpurwar that's the "problem". According to you, she's meant to be a cryo support but she has a constellation that 'wants' her to be onfield, also a cons that reduce enemy phys res.
I prefer a characters personality and fun factor in my gameplay. Even if the character is really good, I won't raise them if I don't have a personal attachment/connection with them. It's much more fun to clear content and a few floors of Abyss with your favorite characters instead of using the same team comps everyone else uses the most.
Absolutely agree with this comment! I use my favorites and the characters I can connect with personally or if I really like them and their stories, too.
you literally sums up the reason why i played genshin. i like the character design. ends of. no matter how bad the character kit is. if i like the design, i will make it work.
@@aryosatya4528 Another reason why I play Genshin like that is cause I suck at coming up with team comps and builds. I'm a lil dum dum xP
For me, the character needs a sort of combo. Obviously I want them to be fun to play, pretty to look at, and a story that creates a connection. However, I also want them to contribute something to my existing team, and whether they are worth the time I have invested in the game. All characters will eventually be powercrept, but I still look out for the more optimal picks of the bunch. Really, personality can only do so much for me since I intend to use them often. Hence they need not only be fun but effective in their role. Otherwise I start comparing them to others and question whether it was worth the primogems.
Yeah, I'm picky. It's why I usually hold my gems for awhile.
Imo for 4 stars, it would be fischl as a well-rounded character. Though she focuses on single targets, but she's also a great particle generator and players have the choice to build her either sub DPS and physical DPS which gives the players the flexibility to build her according to their respective rosters.
I like Physical DPS but truth is her Electro carry teams are genuinely very good, as a old player of her its what i'd typically recommend for easy/efficiency of clearing all the content, with Phys being more for showing off or having fun. Point with this is her variety for being played on field is wider, includes a lot more variation then some give it credit. Phys, Electro, and Hybrid i've encountered atleast half a dozen team types that are good enough i'd easily call them viable (Phys Hyper with Yun Jin, Hyper Electro with Sara, Taser on field with a off field anemo or pure superconduct which is where Hybrid build shines, various overvape teams, and hot pot/soup driver.)
This all being while any on field play with her is basically a option, but its a easy to make work option even if its not her more definitive calling as a SubDPS.
I’d say the only problem is most of her power is locked behind constellations. I absolutely adore fischl and still use her even though I have xiao and Ayaka who deal way more dmg lol.
She’s a great character.
@@cmool I'm still waiting for my C1 on Fischl to use her machine-gun :'( I guess I'll be able to get her to C2 by july, with her being back in starglitter shop + her being a reward for 2.8's event.
@@vicca4671 You can work on your Yun Jin in the mean time if you haven't! :D
@@Ottobon Yup, I'm doing that, already got her a husk set and she's close to 80 now ❤️ But the most important part for me is the joy of seeing numbers go fast hahaha
Vars: "Diluc trades power for consistance"
Also Vars: shows him missing 2 of 4 Bursts
I think our Batman larper needs some gallses XD
I believe Yanfei is designed perfectly to what she is supposed to be, a pyro charged attack unit. Her normal attacks boosts her charge attack damage through her seals, her skill boosts her charged attack damage through seals, and her burst also buffs her charged attack through seals while also giving them a flat attack boost for when you cast her seals. Her passive talents also further builds on her charged attack damage, and her constellations help negate all the issues Yanfei has for being a charged attack unit, her c1 and and c6 reduces her weak point being stamina, her c2 increases her overall damage with her charged attack and her c4 helps her get rid of the issue of her being vulnerable while she charge attacks. Her entire kit is tailored for one specific thing which is why it's so intuitive to use her as she only has to work on one thing, damage
To me it always goes like this
-Have a definite role of what you're supposed to be
- A Clear Focus and optimized kits at that one specified Field you're supposed to be
-The Stats to Optimized those Field
-Not too hyperfocus on just 1 Role that you'll ended up being replace by someone that provides the same as you but more even if they're weaker
-Minimum Efforts for as High as Possible Potentials
At least that's how I defined a Well Design Characters
I think he meant character design not gameplay or meta lmao, but yeah you're right.
I am pretty sure it Gameplay not visual design cus that is not vars filde of content just saying 😅😅
@@snapedu9166 read the description
I am very sorry my bad 🙏🙏🙏
@@snapedu9166 noo its ok lmao
This brought up a very good point about Bennett. This made me realize that aside from me not like it his personality, he’s just too good at everything for me to want to use him. I like to struggle a little bit so I mained a character who not supposed to be a main DPS(Rosaria) I only got Ayaka like a week ago but it already feels like she makes everything too easy.
I love my Rosaria-Shenhe duo in the abyss (Ayaka who? :D )
@@doug3454 I know right?
Ayaka is stupidly good indeed, you can just slap her on a freeze team and be done with it. I guess we'll see her becoming less viable when we get more cryo-resistant content, because as of now cryo is too good against 3 major elements (hydro, pyro and electro) and average against the others.
I'm thankful for her being that strong though, I needed that extra oomph as I reached WL 8 as a newer player with piss-poor gear :')
@@vicca4671 she regularly hits 30k with her E with no buffs 😭
10:25 Now that's what I was thinking about whether or not characters like Zhongli, Bennette and Xingqiu are completely invalidating other characters, due to them having extremely overpowered kits that breaks the game in half and makes it too easy.
In any RPG, I was fascinated by the three holy trinity of roles: DPS, Tank and Healer. Each and every one of them are designed with a purpose of with a situation you are in and not so much the necessity of only one. In my eyes, these roles should do what they do best at and trying to become the other, because it defeats the purpose of flexibility. That's why I find it frustrating how the game is revolving more on DPS rather than defense and healing because it begs the question of why needing them while you can just defeat the enemies with sheer brute force.
In League of Legends, the reason why I absolutely hate carry supports is because they go against the rule of what a support should do: for enchanters and tank supports they should either heal, shield or act as a meat-shield to defend their characters, without dealing any huge amounts of damage for themselves. And this isn't just for supports, but the gameplay environment also, where everything is fast-paced and snowbally where you can just beat the game without being defensive all the time or even need a healer.
And before you say that I want DPS to be nerfed to the ground or make it one of the worst roles of all time, no, because that will also invalidate the need for them also.
In short, when you implement the three holy trinity you should give each and every on of them equal justice and respect, and NOT treat one of them as if they are your "favorite child". More people and even gaming companies should appreciate and understand the importance of Tank and Healer more, rather then just milk DPS dry.
Remember, there are times when you need to be patient instead of rushing in without thinking. Think brains, not brawns.
@coffee cloud Thank you! I appreciate your understanding of what I said. 😊
@@zeosummers3984 That’s kind of the game’s fault for not encouraging you going on the defensive side, due to several factors: enemies’ ai don’t put much fight, lack any meaningful strategy, dodging has no downtime, some characters unintentionally do a better job than others, etc.
What I want to see is to introduce more enemies who are aggressive, smarter and that hit you harder, have attacks that you can barely avoid with dashing and even prevent your movement, have block periods that prevents you from doing any damage to them while it unleashes heavy blows to you or can affect your health through shield like the corrosion status.
Lastly, I don’t care if my characters do big damage numbers to win. Because why bother stacking more when I worry more about my survivability and endurance, something that the game never learns from.
@@zeosummers3984 But that’s what makes combat in that game less impressive and boring. I don’t like when players has cheese all the way because that looks the most laziest and honorless way you could ever think of. Maybe that’s what people in china thinks, that it is a waste of time to spend healing and tanking when you could just kill the enemy as fast as you can.
But I on the other hand don’t see it. Yes, it is fun to one-shot everything with all the big damage numbers. But do you have fun when you are tanking almost anything or heal so much too?
Just because the tank and healer don’t deal huge amounts of damage the DPS, nor the intention of doing so, does not mean they should abandon for what they are good at. And it’s especially true when you only put DPS at top tier while tank and healer is at bottom tier just because they deal no damage, which is very wrong to begin with and only lead to misconception. And the Chinese community are quick to point out that they say something like “skip this character it sucks!” And I’m like “So what? Is it because they deal no damage? Is that what you think? Well, you are just trolling.” I swear, the Chinese community is infamous for this sort of s***.
Edit: And sorry for sounding racist here, but that just bothers the hell out of me.
I think rule first should have an asterix "but there's a noticeable difference between character with and without investment".
That's kinda my problem with Bennet. He barely needs any investment aside from some ER, 79 lv and high base DMG weapon and he does his role pretty similarly to full invested one. You need some kind of balance between "you don't need anything for it to work" and "you need to sell your kidney". I like theory crafting and tinkering with characters, so that's very important for me.
HP is also something he really wants, for the heal on his burst
@@Iffem Yes, but heal with generic artifacts not focused on HP is enough in most situations. You see the difference, but in most cases it's overkill. And while overkill with shields is acceptable, with healing it's usually a waste (unless clam set? Clam bennet would be funny)
I feel the same way about Gorou! He's really easy to build, barely needs any investment... but I like Gorou a lot, and want to invest more in him and make him stronger. And there's literally no point, levelling all his talents and min maxing his artifacts won't make him buff better and he does piddly damage anyway so there's no point beefing that up either.
@@ph5.484 I agree! I have major problem with Gorou's mechanics because he does his main job great with minimal investment (slap some energy regen and max out his skill and you're basically done). It changes slightly when you get C4 Gorou cause then he finally starts to scale with something (DEF based healing) which motivates you to invest into him a little more, but the difference is not that great. I really like his niche and as a character, but he's more specialised Bennet in lots of things.
I would say Itto and Ningguang are well-designed characters for my standard. I would say Noelle but she have that glaring issue of lack of energy generation+high burst cost so No, she ain't. But Ningguang and Itto have a chance. They are good DPS doing their job well and requiring a decent amount of investment, not too much but also not too little. And they have a support that is dedicated for them: Gorou. Their damage are decently high as individual (without relying on team comp). Honestly I can't find a problem with their kit, except that they are GEO which is the most neglected element in the game.
Btw, I agree that Diluc and Sucrose are the most well-designed character in the game and they were released as a complete character from the very start. They are released with specific artifact set dedicated for them, dedicated weapon, and well-defined stat priority.
saying WGS is Diluc's tailor made weapon would be a lie. Yes it's best for him, but only because it gives you an unnecessarily big shitton of ATK, instead of working like Kagura's Verity for example. His kit is thought out very well, true, except for the useless charged attack talent. I wish they swapped it to something like +20% crit damage for first e slash, 30 for second and burst, and 40 for third. Would make building crit on him even easier.
I'd actually disagree on Ningguang being well-designed, for a variety of reasons. But a big one is that Gorou is not a support for her at C0, and you're better off bringing another character. He even barely counts at C6.
Ningguang, as a whole, feels very self-contradictory with how many elements of her kit fight against the rest. She's a catalyst where her reactions are unimportant, and she can't use Widsith well. She's a Geo character who can't benefit from DEF, or enable Geo resonance. She's a 4* Main DPS, which means she doesn't have the personal damage to compete with the 5* DPS.
She's also one of the only characters where her best artifact set is double 2-set pieces, and that already sends up some red flags about her design, since I'd say no other character that actively avoids having a complete artifact set is well-designed.
Unless I'm missing something, she doesn't really have much team variety either. Her best teams will all be Yun Jin/Bennet/Flex. Maybe change Yun Jin to also include Zhongli and Albedo.
@@rust8995 this is something I would like to say about Noelle, I would consider her well-designed, but the community wont because of just one glaring issue which considerably easy to fix. The other issues about her is being Jack of All trades but I consider this as an advantage. And being reliant to constellation, other players consider non-C6 Noelle as lackluster, I would argue with them, but the fact that non-C6 Noelle cant compete with other DPS nor Support in the utilities she have shows that there is something wrong on her kit. Dont get this wrong, Noelle is my favorite character in all of Genshin, but really her kit wasnt well-designed enough.
Meanwhile for Ningguang, I just find her kit as well-balanced and despite needing common supports (Bennett and Zhongli), her own damage still lives up even without them, it isnt as much as 5star though. She doesnt rely on constellation that much. Her role as a 4star DPS that deals enough damage even without relying to reaction. My standard for well-designed and balanced character is a character that brings enough utility, not too much nor too little and still relies on a team but not too much. Ningguang and Itto lives up to that, they are decent and strong Geo DPS that gives enough damage. they are strong without being broken but also have flaws without being too hindering.
@@thesilent185 that's why I didn't use "tailor-made" but "dedicated". But that might be wrong too. Since WGS is a generalist plain DPS Claymore rather than dedicated weapon for Diluc, but Diluc is just a plain DPS. Furthermore, WGS makes Diluc's artifact stat priority easier since his Atk became sky high so his artifact priority will just be EM-Pyro-CritDmg. His Crit Rate was already covered by ascension stat and artifact substats.
@@thesilent185 Not only that, it has nothing to do with him lore-wise. I don't think they were releasing weapons like Amos bow and Freedom Sworn at that time.
Every Catalyst user exept Yanfei and Kokomi: ah sht here we go again
Vars: *Saying catalyst is cluncy for the 34th time
They are very crunchy
Sucrose isn't clunky either(in terms of both support and being a main driver)
Heizou: i cast fist
he literally praises sucrose in the video
Adding to the Yanfei crowd because I still use her as my Pyro DPS despite having Hu Tao. I really love how her playstyle feels in my hands, her range is good against Spectres and her kit have a clear focus. Combine with being easy to build (don't have 4P Crimson Witch because it's a pain to farm? 4P Wanderer's is just as solid) for, she's a good pick.
I've seen plenty of videos about poorly designed characters in this game, and what NOT to do when making a character. But this is one of the first few videos I've seen actually highlighting what, instead, SHOULD be done when designing them. Before I had no frame of reference for what even made a well designed character, but now I understand a whole lot more and I love that I agree with it 100%. I want the characters I play to be fun and useful, but far from overwhelmingly overpowered
My way of choosing team revolves around how fun they are to play or how much i like their story with a few with synergies,
This is probably why I use keqing so much despite having itto a much better main dps and why i dont use bennet/xiangling on my overworld team since they arent really fun to use all they do is dmg or a boost to it no flashy or nice to see animations or anything too special they are just too simple for their average usage,
Jean is a healer but she is really good at yeeting things, venti has really good cc but his exploration utility is pretty good, keqing has really good animations and has a teleport, the traveler being able to switch elements and play styles is pretty fun, beidou having a counter system makes it satisfying when you time it right, qiqi has good healing but her normal attack animations make her really fun to play with sub dps whose skills rely on atk speed rather than timing, etc
No matter how meta a character gets I feel a character shines on how nice they are to play rather than how much damage or support they can dish out in a single press of a button in a game where outside the abyss everything is fairly easy to a certain degree
I definitely go for personality/how they feel to play more. I've skipped several "meta" characters like Eula, Ganyu, and Hu Tao because I was already satisfied with the characters I had whose personalities and feel of play I liked better (Kazuha, Childe, Itto, among others). Raiden Shogun I caved and wished for on her rerun because everyone talks about how she's "the best unit in the game" (ironic after people trashed her so hard when she first came out) but personally she doesn't really help the teams I use that much so I still feel meh about her. At least she's pretty.
Showing the spices event while you said "give the player a meaningful and engaging experience" is the most subtle burn i've seen in a while
I feel the need to pull for "Meta" teams for the freemogems(in the spiral abyss), which is really needed for many players like f2ps or low spenders and with those freemogems i try to pull for the characters that are really fun to play or that i like their design (ingame personality, outfit designs, etc). HOWEVER i keep getting stuck in the never ending spiral (pun intended) of pulling meta characters since i really dont get lucky with artifacts and thus struggle with the endgame content that is usually the abyss(there are some events i struggle wit), so i find it really hard to get the character i want. You could say that i could just pull for the characters i want and skip the meta characters but im sort of a completionist(and also i really want those freemogems) and try to get 36 stars(at the minimum 33) and REALLY lose my mind griding for it and sometimes im not even able to succeed.
Elden Ring remind people why Genshin is easy. You DON'T need perfect 4 piece set,perfect substat to beat Spiral Abyss.
Also are you F2P/Light Spender ?
Cause...
Excuse me ?
being _Completionist_ ?
Is that weird Joke ?
Unless ya are Whales then go on. Collect em' all *LIKE NO TOMORROW* ヽ(°◇° )ノ
And NO. I won't include "F2P with Crazy Luck" as valid justification for collecting all Hero.
Personally i think it's a bad idea long term to skip characters you really like just for meta. When you do 36 star abyss, what will you have after all is said and done? 4 stars are good enough to clear, you just need time and investment. And at least some 5 stars you like should add some power to your account, even if it's not peak power. Even if they don't add power, you can just not build them too much till you max clear
Also with artifacts, do away with the idea you need BiS sets on everyone. Use an optimizer and you'll be surprised how much power you have in your artifacts. Now, if you're too new to the game, you may just have to farm more. And ofc get those talents up. Bad rng over a long period of time becomes statistically unlikely. Also, ppl often don't realize how good their substat efficiency is. Easier to let the computer do the thinking for you
You don’t need meta characters to clear spiral abyss however. It’s very possible to 36* with your favorites with enough time and investment. And even if you are struggling it’s very easy with almost any units to at least 33* abyss and if you are getting 33* then you’re only missing out on 50 primos every 2 weeks, which really isn’t a whole lot, pulling for meta characters just to clear abyss is draining primos for characters you like far more than just ignoring abyss all together. Especially when you can absolutely do spiral abyss with your favorites, Don’t focus only on the meta
Pulling for units just to get abyss primos is messed up, my friend. You spend 10-20k primos to pull a 5 star, just to receive 1.2k monthly from 36*. It’s literally taking 10 months (almost a year) to regain what you spent for that meta pull. Just to regain, not even to start earning more. Not viable at all.
Tbh when reading the title I thought of character design as appearance and personality rather then game-play. That being said I think both aesthetic and game-play design matter, not just game-play. I personally pull for aesthetics over game-play most of the time as I want to enjoy seeing the character when playing, it's why I never use Bennett outside of spiral abyss and even in spiral abyss I don't find him fun to play, but he is generally necessary for a lot of teams unless your account is stacked. But if I like a character's aesthetic and pull for them, what will make me use them more often is how fun their game-play is.
I use personality when deciding the Dps, sub dps and elemental support for a team and then the 4th is just the a performance unit that pulls it all together when i design my teams.
I am a Kaeya main. I chose to overwork in the building department once I saw that guy coming my way. His personality was the reason I loved him and this game. However, recently I got Ayaka on my alt acc. And even though she's better in the dps department (by sheer numbers) I surprisingly found out that I still like playing on my main with Kaeya more. The main reason to this is, I guess, survivability. I don't have a dedicated healer in my party on my lower AR acc with Ayaka. I don't like Barbara's healing, because it freezes me to death, so I don't use her. So here's the deal: there to 5☆ characters in the party (excluding Traveler): Ayaka and Keqing. And they both like to die really quick. And I never have this problem with Kaeya, thanks to his passive. Second reason is the way I am used to play, however Ayaka and Kaeya differ not that much (the only difference is the sprint mechanic and everything it brings). What I'm saying is that... Those harder to build units can really pay off in the end and sometimes they need just a bit more. As example, Kaeya and Tartaglia. I have both as dps's on my main and they might require the same in the beginning: good 5☆ weapon (Skyward Harp for Tartaglia and Aquila Favonia for Kaeya, for example), good artifacts (luckily same domain), and a bunch of supports. But surprisingly for me, even though Childe gives better numbers he's a really pain to play. He has best broken supports in the game (Bennet and Zhongli) and a subdps (Jean right now) in his abyss party and still sometimes performs good but with a good amount of work. Kaeya on the other hand runs with Xingqiu, Chongyun and Venti and is a less pain in the ass because of his playstyle. Though, I might be biased. Tbh, I really would love to hear about all the characters I brought up, especially my mains. We'll be waiting for next week to learn what will it be. Thanks for your video!
Tartaglia's main strength lies in his nuke potential, not his DPS. If you want to use him on the field it is best to use him with Xiangling.
If Kaeya's passive is enough to keep you alive, then healing is not needed. Just use food. Kaeya does not heal too much and, tbh overworld monsters at low AR do not do too much damage. Plus Ayaka does a stupid amount of damage so you are likely to take down most monsters before they can fight back. But you can play however you like.
I want to mention that some characters seem to have inherently weird design choices. Yoimiya and Yae Miko are the 2 I'm talking about.
Yoimiya is a DPS that has an ultimate with exploding fireworks, yet somehow its a single target ultimate, which applies a debuff that Yoimiya herself cant proc, which doesnt make sense to me design wise. The artifact set that has her design, Retracing Bolide, only fits her if you have a character to constantly sheild her too, which is an odd design choice when you look at other characters and the sets that have designs that take after them, examples: Raiden and Emblem of Severed Fate, Kokomi and Ocean Hue.
Yae Miko has such beautiful attack animations and a really cool looking charge attack, yet shes released as a sub-dps you use quick swap style, without using any of her normal attacks, and yet again for some reason requires insane field time for her damage rotation like a standard dps. Her totems give her a dash, which has no invulnerability frames, and combined with needing to cast it 6 times in a rotation results in getting hit and feeling clunky. Her rotation requires casting 3 totems, destroying them with her ultimate, and then casting them again, taking insane field time when really her design could have refreshed the totems duration on ultimate cast like Komomi rather than destroying them. Her design makes it seem like she should have been an electro DPS, but maybe changed later down the line to be a sub-dps. The artifact set that has her design, Shimenawa's, doesnt even fit her at all as it seems to be designed for an on field DPS that relies on normal and charged attacks, which could also further suggest design changes to Yae Miko.
Yoimiya is one of the characters who needs a shield the most, imo. I'd sooner not use a shield for Hu Tao than for Yoimiya. Reason being, her damage is backloaded - most of her damage lies in the later attacks in her Normal Attack combo, so you really don't want the combo to be interrupted by either getting hit by enemy attacks or needing to dodge them. That said, I personally play her with 4-pc Crimson Witch in a Melt team :D
Chongyun cons all make him more like a mdps which is sad considering his most meta application is hydro abyss bullying with Cryo infusion.
Not me thinking this was going to be a video on artistic design; clothes, hair style, color usage, etc.
Though that is mostly about preference I suppose, even more than game play design.
I wanna build a team for Heizou because of what I saw on the leaks, so I think I prefer personality in general.
Also, if a character is fun to use even outside the battle (like Sayu), that's also a big plus for me xD
I feel like Razor is a well-designed character, he is a normal attack physical DPS and his burst increase his attack speed and continuously applies electro to the enemy, he can increase his ER(tap E) and generate energy for himself(hold E) making it easy to get his burst back, if he has 5* base stat and scaling I'm sure more people would play him
Edit: He also gives you some energy back if you switch him during his burst
I think Razor, Ningguang and Yanfei are well designed Characters where the kits work well with each other and also useful. I think their Kits are even better than some 5 stars.
The least intuitive thing about his kit is his elemental skill. He is a physical carry so you prioritize his normal attack but his skill animation takes up so much time. Add his c4 to the mix and to me it feels like his abilities are competing against each other for uptime, locking each other down.
@@dentangaji6161 True. Only thing about ningguang is theres no reason to get all 3 star jades from NAs, it would be great if her normal attacks were slightly faster and every star jade you get boosts your normal attack and charged dmg by X%.
A well designed character to me is one that is flexible and offers reasonable opportunities for synergy, such that there is possibility for emergent gameplay. In Genshin, that synergy includes not only between other characters in a team, but also between their own kit. Also, leveraging the fact that Genshin is a 3D action game is a huge bonus.
So in that regard, Jean is the best designed character in Genshin in my opinion. She has some clear synergy between her abilities: charged attack can put enemies into the air to set up for your elemental skill, and your elemental skill can push enemies out of your elemental burst for extra damage. And if you look at each skill individually, there's lots of flexibility or interesting ways to use her abilities. Charged attack can essentially stun enemies and is thus a form of crowd control. Her skill can induce momentum-based damage and reposition enemies and objects (e.g. Baron Bunny). And her burst heals and has a very cool self-swirl property (e.g. used for Sunfire). And to top it all off, it really feels like she leverages the fact that Genshin is a 3D action game by manipulating positioning and height.
Please note that I am not considering the character's element and associated perks (e.g. Viridescent Venerer for Jean) as part of their design, since otherwise how well designed their elements are would be too big of a factor. Like think about if Keqing and Diluc swapped elements, lol.
In my eyes, most other characters have a pretty rigid way to play them that hardly strays, if at all, from the developer's vision. Sure, maybe they didn't know the exact meta teams that Raiden Shogun would slot into, but her kit is still used as straightforwardly as possible as far as I can tell, and does exactly what she was intended to do (very well, at that). Not to say that it's bad design since she does function well, but it's just okay to me rather than good. Zhongli also suffers the same problem, and gets further points docked for having a flat -20% res debuff to all elements with no nuance.
Another failing for many characters to me is that oftentimes either their skill or burst are afterthoughts and hardly participate in their identity as a character; like one or the other are individually VERY weak reasons to use that character. For instance, Ayaka's skill or Albedo's burst. They don't do anything interesting, nor will you ever pick those characters for your team for those abilities alone (edit: I suppose Albedo's burst does give some EM to the team, but still a rather weak incentive when teambuilding esp with the current Geo design philosophy). Granted Ayaka has a special dash so maybe you could argue she has enough going on, but I personally hate when design space is used without offering of substance. It doesn't even have to necessarily be new (e.g. Yunjin's parry when Beidou's already exists), but I feel it's gotta have SOME kind of reason to care about it existing other than the bare minimum of giving energy and doing some damage.
Yeah, Albedo Burst and Ayaka skill are just extra damage. If Ayaka had a bigger stun for her skill, and Albedo burst healed or increased damage somehow, people would appreciate them more.
Genshin characters have 3 sources that determine their "playstyle"
• Their kit and constellations
• Artifact set
• Weapon
A character having a "not well" designed kit can easily be balanced by their weapons and/or artifact sets
Amber paired with the Elegy, from a clunky character becomes a good elementa reactions support (especially vaporise)
Yanfei a well designed 4star pyro dps, with c4 and Prototype Amber becomes a healer, energy fixer and the best pyro shielder
Genshin has so much horizontal complexity that even "badly" designed characters can carve a niche
Personality is so important in a character that it beats performance which is why I never took a liking to ganyu and her playstyle because its just aim and shoot which is boring to me. I like it when a character shows more of a need to have smooth gameplay.
I know thisn't particurlally what you asked but I will build any character and try to cram them into a team if I like their CHARACTER. I'm building Gorou, even though I dont have any geo main dps and no plans for one. I want to see the characters I like on screen and see them interact with the world.
I put off pulling on Venti for so long, because I wasn't sure how much I liked his green/teal color palette. Literally thats it. I love his personality though and I'm happy that I decided to get him since he's so useful.
Question: Are there pros to "A Jack of All Trades" Characters?
Like, sure, they're not a "Master of One", but Half a loaf is better than none. They can fill in multiple roles, maybe not masterfully but they reduce the number of slots/sacrifices needed.
"Jack of All Trades" type would be more valuable the more limited your character roster is.
Noelle?
She can shield. Her shield is durable but it doesn't have good uptime (can be fixed by using sacrificial greatsword)
She can heal while her shield is up. Using burst can increase healing
She can be a support, healer, shielder, subdps or main dmg dealer
But she's not that good at those things
Diona is that yep
And then there's Benny who's the "master of all" hahaa..
Its the Vanilla of roles. When in doubt, the jack of all trades will do the job just fine. For example, you cant go wrong with Jean. Are there better healers, CCs, nukes, resistance shreders and dps? Yes to all but you wont find a unit for all of those slots than her. She can go on any team for her anemo and the access to Veredesent gives her that push the DPs of the team. Her healing nuke allows her to go even on a Geo team and it does a decent damage at the same time. Her CC its decent enough and can dispatch a respectable damage if mastered well. All of those reasons its why, regardless of meta, she always stays at the middle of the charts.
I'd definitely choose personality, but not just to one character. It's always fun testing out an old unit that isn't part of your main team. I have a main roster of characters I enjoy clearing dailies and similar, however, I choose to use the characters I do have to 'roleplay' during events, for example during the second lantern rite Osial wife event I used Geo Traveler, Beidou, Xinyan and Venti (yes he's my main), for the odd fighting event in Liyue I chose a geo-based team with Geo Traveler, Ningguang, Noelle and Venti (because every adventure needs a storyteller), for the recent Irodori festival I chose Electro Traveler, Xingqiu, Ayaka and (yes) Venti. The list goes on (but I've forgotten the rest) but in the end, it's always nice to try out a character you've put aside for a while, kind of like using a new unit weak or strong, it's still quite the experience!
Genshins problem is not characters. It's the content. If we had more abyss floor each forcing different play styles, like when abyss lectors and heralds encourage anemo and cryo or when that giant wolf encourages Geo or huge enemy numbers encourage venti and... It would make many characters viable. We need at least 50 floors instead of 12 with increase in difficulty and nicheness! Many whales or dolphins are bored because there is no use for their crazy God buildt teams. Every thing is doable too easily. There is just not enough focus on combat. Why do we even get events for us to mix spices? It's boring and not the main focus of the game. Or when we get event for whales to shine, there is no reward for record breaking whales. Why?
because most players are f2p, thank you for coming to my ted talk
@@mariacancino95 fr most of us can't even clear floor 12, we need more endgame stuff but not everyone has god built teams that can one shot everything
@@xxri plus not everyone is interested in building god tier characters. I play for the story and because I like the characters. But as long as floor 12 of spiral abyss is the only real challenge in the game I have better things to do than to waste my time to farm godly artifacts. I'm almost glad my characters can't oneshot every enemy as the rest of the game would become even easier (=more boring).
@@lemonbunny71 spiral abyss is literally not even hard if you have a team, doesnt have to be god tier characters, just have one or two characters built with decent supports and its not that hard
To say Sumeru, Fontaine, etc. characters will be stronger because Inazuma's characters were stronger than Mondstat is misleading. The EARLY Inazuma characters were very strong, but after Raiden/Kokomi they haven't pushed the power envelope. Notice that there's a significant drop off in power level after the early Inazuma characters. Ayato, Itto, Shenhe, and Yae are still good characters, but they're not on the level of Kazuha, Ganyu, Hu Tao, Shogun, Ayaka, etc.
Hoyoverse is being very careful with the powercreep of this game. If any powercreep happens with Sumeru, I'd imagine it's due to an accident of them overtuning Dendro reactions rather than a deliberate effort.
And he ignores the 4*
Monstadt 4*: Bennett (busted af), Sucerose (one part of the holy Anemo trinity), Fischl (really good. Great flex pick/ good unconditional off field damage), Lisa (kinda eh but fine), Amber (meh/bad), Kaeya (good), Rosaria (second Kaeya so good), Diona (good), Noelle (fine, got better with Updates), Razor (eh), Barbara (eh)
Liyue: Xiangling (really good), Xingqiu (king of Vape enabler, most flexible Hydro in game. Amazing), Xinyan (bad), Beidou (good), Ningguag (eh), Chongyun (eh but nice niche), Yunjin (until now a bit eh but has good potential), Yanfei (fine. Just outclassed)
Inazuma: Say (okay. Worse Jean), Sara (without C6 pretty meh. Lisa does her job better), Gorou (pretty good).
Like early 4* are still really relevant and the new one were pretty meh.
@@joe_simon you forgot thoma but he sucks so...
yanfei is actually quite a well designed character, i think you talked abt that in your "why no one plays yanfei" video. she plays by a set of rules and tho that might make gameplay boring sometimes, she's still able to be a good main dps with consistent damage esp for early game players.
i think that personality is definitely the most important to me. i just use character that i like or whose playstyle i enjoy. team comps don't rly matter to me either. i just throw my favorite characters together into a team. my usual overworld team is kequing, ayaka, venti and xiangling/lisa lol. obviously not optimal, but they get the job done and i have fun using them 🤷♀️
For the question at the end, its a mixed bag. I love Yoimiya as a character, but I never play her because she's so boring, and if I play her all day my finger hurts from tapping attack so much. Meanwhile I will still play Xinyan or Noelle even if I have stronger units because they're more fun to play imo, I just won't be bringing them to floor 12 or any floor that won't play to their strengths, depending on current rotation.
Character versitility is arguaby most important. I don't have Raiden so, despite building C1 Sara, she's basically useless to me. Mona has also fallen by the wayside ever since I got Kokomi, similar with Ayaka because I find Ganyu more fun (and I got better Ganyu artifacts, my Ayaka has ER issues). I skipped Itto because apparently he may need a Geo team, but I will pull Yelan because she may be future proofed and work in many teams. Strong characters, e.g. Shenhe, aren't worth anything to me if they have limited teams that I won't want to play.
So you find spamming charged shots fun? Also, Mona and Kokomi are very different characters, with completely different roles, how did Kokomi replace Mona? Also, you should wait before getting Yelan. Just on first impressions, she appears to be another Xingqiu. Wait till people figure out how to play her. Also, you know Shenhe gives Ganyu a significant boost right?
@@killerspreet7318 Yes, I find freeze Ganyu and spamming charge shots on enemies that can't fight back fun, I think it's funny lol
I put Kokomi in my Ganyu team instead of Ganyu, it makes it easier because I can keep Kokomi's hydro application up longer and keep enemies frozen longer
Yes i know Shenhe is for cryo teams, I know this would be good for unfreezable enemies like bosses but it took me so long to farm Blizzard Strayer (like 6 months) I want to keep it on Ayaka/Ganyu at all times so Shenhe wouldn't work well, not worth the primos nor resin for artis and building her etc.
Performance over gameplay for sure! (though both is good) like one of the reasons I like Yanfei so much is that she's real comfy.
Beidou and Sayu are both very versatile and fun 4*s, even if they falter against bad matchups in the meta.
I know Ayaka kinda broke the meta in many ways, but I really appreciate how straightforward her gameplay is, much like Diluc’s.
I loved raiden personally and pulled her at her first release when people complaining about her and.i also like playing her you really feel like. A God in her burst mode(i love that feeling) her burst gives her resistance to all interruption with high damage trying to get c2 but lost 50/50 with jean twice but i liked jean also and run her in second team jean and raiden are my 2 80+ level character
This reminds me when i got yanfei and fell in love with her because she was my first character in zhongli banner and i use her since day one because i loved that you can stomp enemies with a giant deer, and even tho i got diluc and my friends told me to use it because he is a four star and i was lucky and stuf i never get to the Pyro Riven, im starting to building him now because i see his potencial and he is really fun but is like, if i build him at the start and use him as my maim dps since day 1 it would seem forced and i really like both of them, same with keqing and raiden, the variety is the fun thing about this game, and building characters is entertaining, i cant wait to build physical dps Shinobu just because i think it would be fun even tho is not the way she is supposed to be played with but i will just because i love how she jumps in the air and literally uses one akali Q
For the question at the end; for me personally I decide if I should pull for a character or not depening on personality. I adore Venti, I loved him ever since I met him in the archon quest yet I skipped him since he's not that fun to play for me. How it feels to play a character is highest priority for me
For me well designed characters could be identified when all of their qualities work with each other - from personality, to lore background, to abilities and passives, etc.
A good example is Hu Tao, as someone who is able to communicate with both the living and the dead it makes sense that she is strongest when she herself is close to death (below 50% hp) since she is treading the line between the living and the dead. Her personality also compliments her gameplay, you'd expect someone as chaotic as her to fight dashing and jumping across the battlefield which is what you exactly do with her charge attack cancels. Her color scheme and clothes also represents her well, the knots, the flowers, her hat, they all work to compliment what she is and what she does.
And of course on the other side is the opposite of what I just said, an example for this is Kokomi. Her personality, lore, and abilities don't really mesh well with each other. Why on earth do we have a master strategist character that does not have any form of buffs that enhances the parties capabilities? Sure, she has a heal which represents her being a priestess but she does not have anything in her kit that represents her being a master tactician. Yes, she can wield Thrilling Tales and 4-PC tenacity set but they are not part of her actual kit. I'm a first run Kokomi haver and I don't hate her, I just think that she's such a missed opportunity for Hoyoverse.
I think Kokomi is a healer bc the best tactic is not dying.
I think the best part about Hu Tao's design is mostly how well you are rewarded for learning how to play her, especially before c1. Your average new player will either do little damage from healing too much or running out of stamina. If they don't heal constantly, she'll just die all the time. Zhongli (or another strong shield) does take away from this. But when I first got her, I learned so much about how to play the game and with some practice and investment her numbers really pay off. Thematically her gameplay and story are very in sync as you say. All-round a great character imo. Plus her team building has some nice complexity to it if you aren't just looking at a guide.
I agree with the Hu Tao part, although... I thought that Hu Tao lorewise doesn't like to fight, which is kinda weird considering that she is one of the strongest units in the game
I want effective characters but personality also greatly influences me. itto looks super fun to play and I like his personality so I'm going to pull for him even tho there are "better" 5* dps characters. I'm obsessed with eulas design and I like her playstyle (from trials) so whenever she gets a rerun I'm 1000% pulling for her even though, again, there are "better" dps characters I just really want to have them both because I adore them. On the flip side I don't care for gorous design and personality but I really want him for his niche itto support capabilities
"If a character is too strong, why bother building others". This is my problem for overpowered meta characters: Bennett, Xingqiu, Kazuha, Zhongli, Shogun. They trivialized the difficulty of the game from easy to baby game. Among this 5 I listed, only Bennett have the chance to be balanced just by virtue of fixing one glaring issue in his kit.
Zhongli and Shogun can't be balanced since they are meant to be OP.
Kazuha can't be balanced because his kit is completely made and the only issue is it's too perfect and the only way to balance it is removing a characteristic of his kit but would enrage the community if do so.
Same goes with Xingqiu but the problem with Xingqiu is they overpack his kit for no actual reason, everything about his kit is saying this is a overdesigned kit and you can't do anything about it.
Meanwhile Bennett is technically balanced at C0. There is a limit in his potential due to the 70% HP cap requirement for his Burst's effect to work. Some might hate me for saying this now but the only thing that can make Bennett balance is switching his C6 to his C1. Bennett's C1 is too overpowered for a first constellation, it removed the only barrier to Bennett that make him overpowered. for other character who did have that type of C1, it still make sense for them since their kit wasn't very packed but Bennett is. Making his C1 be his C6 would make a C1 Bennett be limited as a Pyro Support like other element's specific support: Sara, Gorou, and Shenhe. The current C6 Bennett is worst because his C1 removed his limitation and the C6 brings a limit to him again. If his C1 limits Bennett from the start, his new C6 would be more appreciated.
The problem is that i can't get those character no matter how much i pull for them =-=
I've never gotten a Bennett from any wish banners that features him, and i only get a C1 Xingqiu from that Irodori festival event and 2nd Lantern Rite
@@Other-C I don't have much luck in me, but I'll give you a bit of my luck to bless you in your next pulls. Btw, there is a Bennett in this month's Paimon Bargain grab that as soon as possible.
I’d argue that the older units aren’t over-kitted but that the new units are underwhelming. It seems like they purposely make units bad, give them horrible scaling, and think it’s fine since people are going to spend money anyways. Honestly it’s infuriating, especially with how many Inazuma units got cucked in the process.
And anemo isn’t strong because of their element, they’re strong because of VV specifically.
Bennett is fine, but you need to design characters that MATCH his strengths. I don’t understand why they’re going to reverse powercreep route. Unless their goal is to minimize powercreep as much as possible but it’s not hard balancing units to be good..
@@Other-C I already maxed cons on benny and have a lot of cons for Xingqiu, so sending some luck your way!
@@TacticalDimples What you mean? Xingqiu literally does everything. He deals lot of damage, has consistent hydro application and interruption resistance, can be a battery and heal. The reason why new 4 stars are underwhelming is because Hoyo doesn't want to create flexible and powerful characters like him, Bennett, Xiangling,...
I’d love to see a list of how you feel about all the characters eventually. U have really interesting thoughts on all this.
One aspect I like in games is giving the players ways of avoiding damage that aren't just use this big shield. The dodging mechanic in genshin is extremely bad as they limit you to 2 dodges before you can dodge again, but there are time when you want to dodge more than that. When you do dodge you need to release the movement key to stop the character from sprinting else you will burn through your stamina, but if you do you are staying still and assuming you don't have a shield, you are then going to be ragdolled till you dash out of the animation......buut if you have no stamina then you have to just take the ragdoll. And lastly the dodging mechanic in genshin is highly inaccurate as there are times when you can dodge an enemy's attack and other times when using the dash at the same time you will get knocked across the map and this last point is the most frustrating.
However I doubt that most player are going to notice these thing because 95% of the player base has zhongli and that gives Hoyo an excuse to not fix the dodging mechanic.
Omg THIS. I honestly dislike using shields and only use them when absolutely necessary (looking at you azhdaha), because it just feels braindead at times.
And is part of the reason I main Beidou.
And then there's also the fact than you automatically enter sprint if you press dodge for more than 0.5 seconds, and to exit sprint you ...have to stop pressing the directional button. Like, why not just separate dodge to press and sprint to hold, for example.
I feel like Kokomi (yes I'm a Kokomi main) fits every single one of the categories. She's a great healer and dmg dealer at very low investment, she can efficiently fit in any team comp, she can do decent dmg on her own but can be S tier the game with the correct team comp, and her kit it imo one of the best. She's also the 3rd most fun character to dps to me (1st Keqing, 2nd Sucrose)
Kokomi made my Genshin Impact experience a lot more fun and enjoyable.
Nah - 100% crit rate and shitty split scaling is terrible design lol
@@RA-ux3fu she's barely split scaling considering that hp does less for her than healing bonus, and there's only one artifact that can be healing bonus unlike def, atk, or just pure hp. The -100 crit rate would have actually made her broken, that's the only reason why they did it.
Edit: also, she's the most unique character and isn't easy to be replaced which is a very good design. Only problem I do have with her is her shitty scaling
I definitely believe the Archons thus far to be “well designed.”
Raiden is bordering for me in terms of her scuffed ass writing, but in other aspects she's pretty well done.
@@niajoby4973 Her story is fine. It was just executed horribly. The concept of puppet was interesting.
@@niajoby4973 i honestly like raiden's story and her journey from being a depressed shut-in in denial to growing out of that and embracing change
@@levisamom5069 The thing is that we don't see a good passage of time in Genshin, so it'd be better to have seen her struggling at least a bit to deal with the issues she caused during the Sakoku period.
Lots of people see it as "Oopsie, I guess I did a poopsie. Okay everyone, free travel permits, have your gems back" and the people went automatically "Yay, thank you almighty narukami ogosho shogun! We love you!"
Her lifting the decree in her part 2 history was okay, but we could have at least one more part to see her working to make Inazuma a better place, and improving her relationship with Kokomi. The vision hunt decree ruined lots of lives after all.
@@vicca4671 yeah true...I also wanna see something like that...maybe in a part 3 or something
I started Genshin Impact really early. Up till version 1.3 I didn't really care too much about which units I was using, I was just doing it on the mood. But then Xiao was released. I have been maining him ever since. I love his gameplay and he still is my favourite character in Genshin Impact up to today. His kit is simple but interesting to use. Many people joke about his burst being "pogo stick simulator" but there is simply something amusing in decimating waves of enemies with just his plunges or simply being able to use him against almost all enemies, without any problems at all. I find it rather sad that he is falling off the meta for a long time now but it can't be helped.
I love Diluc till this very day. He reminds me of Soldier 76 in Overwatch. The character that anyone can pick up and play. He isn't the most powerful DPS by means but he'll get the job done and I love characters like that. He's just good ol' reliable, just ashame I don't have Diluc myself xddd. I also love his backstory but that's besides the point.
Funnily enough soldier 76 is what made me lose faith in overwatchs balance team and quit the game for good
it never made sense to me why such an easy character like him should be stronger than mcree or widow who are so much harder to play
Low risk high reward, making picking high risk characters pointless. Terrible philosophy imo
Performance makes me pull for a character. Personality makes me NOT pull for a character.
I'd say that their gameplay is definitely the most important thing in a character
Though personality does have a large effect in getting you to pull for them
That was actually the case for me with Yae Miko.
I didn't know about her skills and i didn't know about synergies but because of her impressions from the archon quest and Gorou hangout, I fully set my sights on getting her
Also, Miko is an onfield enabler and this is the hill I'll die on
Exactly. People Wishing Ganyu because she's HOT (myself include ) and DEMN...~
SHE's SMACK hard that Cryo number
But imagine if she's turn out BAD ?
Poor those people especially F2P & Low spender Yeah ?
Also Good for you accepted Yae Miko even though she's....
Well CN community know better than me so I won't say it. Gave a great day 🤗
Who would you say Yae would enable? Or would it just be something that could be done in the future with the way her kit is set up?
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i see a lot of people comparing her to fischl because, yes her kit can function similarly
but from what i found, she's less clunky as an on-field charged-attack dps
her skill is focused more on movement and dodging while reserving her stamina for charged attacks
i wouldn't say that she has a best pairing to enable
but i personally play her with thoma and i imagine that she would also pair well with other off-field dpss like xingqiu, xiangling and now yelan
miko feels bad to play as a secondary fischl because her totems are more so designed for movement and increasing her overall damage the longer she's on field
future damage comparisons might do well to include her totems when calculating her on-field damage
I just saw a video about Yelan and if she is worth pulling for, and it made me realize something funny about Genshin players perception about the characters design: When considering meta picks and the spyral abyss, a character that isn't a main DPS taking more field time is considered a bad thing. So if you go with that logic, a well designed character is someone that you have to play as little as possible to get maximum value. I can't think of other games where people want characters that they don't actually get to play, just use bursts and swap.
For me, I prefer a character's personality to the performance. My most invested character is a main DPS Kokomi with Skyward Atlas.
I was just discussing with a friend right before this video how id buff some characters in genshin and not big buffs but changes the make their kits better. Amber was a big one for me because I'm currently using her as a main staple of my team and have been for a like 2 weeks. I'd want to make her C2 naturally a part of her kit and make it so any changed atk not just a foot shot makes the BB explode. Second id move her C4 to be C2 and replace her c4. Not sure with what maybe a faint style skill like if she dies she drops a BB but im actually not sure it was just an idea. Id also maybe buff her 2nd combat passive but idk it just feels weak. A lot of characters could use minor tweaks to feel even just slightly better.
Also fun characters all the way I love team crafting and making niche builds. Healer Xingqui is the best thing I've ever done. At any point I can use Eula Raiden or Ganyu but I tend to use random stuff instead. Dmg Yunjin I've been trying to get people on board. Trust me her scaling on her skill is crazy just try it in a geo team and her dmg is insane
i like characters like xiangling xingqiu fischl bennnett diona kazuha sucrose cause even if a new unit outclasses them in what they do they still remain their ground as a solid choice in a team, unlike dps characters who have their usage rate going up and down depending on the abyss
Its nearly imposible to powercreep kazuha, bennet, unless they create exact clones with better numbers or more effects.
@@michapiasta3072 tbh bennett could get nerfed in a way with units like eula who can’t actually utilise him efficiently, or more of yunjin/gorou/sara type units
I like that you showed octopath traveler as an example of good use of character role and abilities within team designing
I feel Venti has kind of a red mark on him that prevents him from being well-designed. His ability to crowd control is so absolute where either enemies are affected by it and he's effective and fun to use, or they aren't affected and playing him feels very bad. I don't feel it's much of him fitting into a niche as future enemies like Kairagi seemed to be designed around not letting players with Venti "cheat" the game and fight fairly. Other Anemo characters with CC suffer from this too but Venti most of all.
i think the problem with kairagi is that hoyoverse wanted to encourage players to use characters that don't have CC abilities because why use character with crowd control focused kit if the enemies in question have some kind of resistance to it.
thats literally not true, his pull power is still strong (arouns as much as kazuha's pull after E) regardless of how big the enemies are, its just that they arent picked up.
Venti is not like "If enemy small he OP, if enemy big he useless", its more like "If enemy small he OP, if enemy big he good"
I feel like Genshin's monster design could be the subject to a whole another video by Vars haha
As they seem to be heading into a wall imo. Most of the recent enemies designs recently seem to be more focused more around "trying to make previously OP units less prevalent" and less around "making an enemy that feels fair yet challenging, thus fun to fight"
Though they still haven't made a single monster more obnoxious than the Lawarchurls (might come from having the farm the Blizzard Domain straight after farming the Emblem one for months though haha)
Idk why people think characters were specifically designed to go against venti…like you guys are overthinking it.
Not every enemy is light weight; it’s really that simple
@@K.G444 My comment was a bit more general and with other characters than Venti in mind. I don't have Venti so didn't even think of him haha
But sorry if it came across as what you're referring to
It would be really cool to have the option of more challenges in the Spiral Abyss that require different units.
It would be cool to have the normal one that resets regularly but also several other ones which focus on different elements, weapons or even something like lore (Mondstadt Challenge which allows only characters from that region to participate. This could be done for every region).
Having this kind of optional content would encourage the usage of a variety of characters and investing in specific characters would feel more rewarding.
If anyone has no any additions or thoughts on this, I'd love to hear your opinion.
On the Diluc part, I guess I am weird, I have both him and Hu Tao and I like him more. I feel in terms of pyro damage he fits my team more. ( Yes both are fully built)
I definitely prefer a character's playstyle over their damage. High numbers look nice, but it's not worth it to me if I'll be bored of them by the time the patch ends. As a spender, it'd feel like a slap in the face to be wasting my money on something I won't enjoy. I built my Ganyu and Raiden to support my Kaeya and I use underpowered units like Diluc, Childe, and Itto just cause I know I won't be bored. Not my cup of tea to be walking in circles doing charges with Ganyu's bow or spamming the attack button on Ayato or Yoimiya. (Not trying to take the piss on people that like those characters, just my opinion).
I think kokomi is a well design character. Building her was very easy and since i didn't have to prioritize crit rate and crit damage i can get good consistent damage and very potent healing at the same time.
I think opposite.
She is to basic, her strenght is 2 base mechanics (heal and hydro aura application).
This make her solid at the moment but impossible to NOT power creep her.
Any true hydro suport should be better than her.
Of course MHY can make all future hydro unit weaker and more basic than others given how good hydro is,
but i doubt this make people happy in long run.
Agree, too many people attack Kokomi without understanding how to play her. I laugh when people complain that she doesn't do damage when her role is a healer and she does more damage than Diluc.
I would say personality. Much of what makes early game fun is the diversity of abilities and the feeling that every character fills a niche in some way, such as Amber's importance as a puzzle-solving archer and Noelle's role as a shielder-healer.
Kokomi feels well designed for me because her lack of damage (i.e. her damage is hard capped due to bubble limitation) makes you think of entire teams and not just buffing the carry.
My take on 11:25. It's necessary to have those op units because I feel like as a mostly free to play player (I bought like 4-5 Welkins) it would otherwise be nearly impossible to build enough characters to manage all the Abyss rotations, which is why those units are needed to bruteforce some of the Abyss content. I see those op 4 stars as a leverage for free to plays players.
Kazuha almost match everything you said and for me he is the best character so far
it is...if wasnt beacuse right now he has no direct competition... hell he is the only charcater who can double swirl in the anemo department
@@vergil9981 guoba swirl?
Personality is important to me though the only time I went for the meta over Personality was Shenhe for Ganyu. I needed that powerful bow user but now that I have her I don't see her much in the abyss at the moment. Definitely getting Shenhe when she comes back.
For me, personality and being fun to play comes first.
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Hello Vars, can you please look into Prototype Amber? It's the only real good craftable catalyst that changes the play archetype of a lot of characters. I run healing bonus on Amber Mona+Zhongli as a mini Bennett
I couldn't give a fuck about a characters kit or playstyle. They either need to have a good personality and/or have a good VA(I'm a seiyuu simp lol). My requirements on pulling a character is extremely irrelevant sometimes.
Like for example, the only reason I pulled for hutao was because I'm a fan of her JP VA. Didn't bother to test her or wait for the reviews. And at first I didn't like her playstyle because I hated staying low health and i have bad timings with regards to charged attacks and animations cancelling. Ofcourse over time I've managed to pick up a few moves so I can use her but she's definitely not someone I use all the time.
Like I pulled for Eula simply because she fucking sneezed in her character trailer. That's literally all that took for me.
The only unit I pulled for even though I'm not a fan of their personality was Zhongli and that was simply because I'm a Ningguang main and my girl needed them extra elemental RES shred.
waifu over meta then
my man 👏
So much conversation about combat, meta and rotations...I can't even remember the last time I saw someone else start a conversation about exploration, traversal and all the adventuring aspects of Genshin... :|
Personality & Performance kinda' overlap or go hand-in-hand with each other, do they not?
Anyway,
I'd pick personality(playability).
If a character is fun to play, we most likely find a way to make them work.
Jean is good but I'd rather much play Kokomi with Shenhe as both healer & crowd control despite taking to 2 slots and Shenhe being a Cryo damage buffer rather than a crowd control unit.
Genshin Impact can be a game that makes you play the way you want it, kinda. We have options to choose from. So, why not have fun with it?
I agree with last sentence.
Sadly,Most casual just _LAAAZZZYYY_ to invest more.
Imma use Ittou as example.
A bit badadim-badabum and *THERE* U got big damage.
Noelle CAN reach his damage but required more time & investment.
Which Again. Casual player don't go that route (unless that bored or something).
Not just Genshin. Any online game with gacha will always have lazy folks.
Just a random bit but I like how you say character names esp the Chinese one 🥰
Prediction: Zhongli, Shogun, Kazuha, Gorou, Xiao, Xingqiu, maybe Sara, but I still don't like her idea.
imo kazuha is not really well made bc his selling point which is the dmg boost is his passive. hyv could give it to sucrose, sayu or jean if they want to
edit: imagine they gave kazuha passive to venti instead of the energy refund 💀💀. no one would ever pull for kazuha
if we break down kazuhas kit, we can see that his entire kit is EACH HALF OF VENTI BURST. his E sucks enemies in and his burst deals aoe dmg with ele. absorption which are all packed in venti black hole. additionally, his E is also ventis hold E. in conclusion, kazuha were lack of identity if he didnt have his OP passive
@@vht1 I strongly disagree. Kazuha is better version of Venti, that's why I was wondering why Venti is on a preview. His skillset is much more convenient (cc has lesser cooldown and is overall better, because enemies are gathered on a groun and not mid-air, also exploration is designed much more interesting). Venti is a one-job man, Kazuha is what Venti should have been.
@@misteltein3420 nah! if sucrose had kazuhas op passive u would think again. the most valuable thing in kazuha kit is the a4 passive
@@vht1 well, this bias doesn't let you see the whole picture
I think for me a mix of performance and personality is what i need in a character. I don't care if so and so is meta defining. Ganyu was a mainstay for so long and still is but I didn't care about her for the longest time. I ended up getting ayaka who I felt was more fun (and still do feel that way)
And to me tartaglia and itto are the most fun characters in the game
Tartaglia isn't just some brain dead easy pick up. He requires you to be able to manage time and rewards you in the comps he's strong in (taser and reverse vape)
And itto is just a fun beatem up character. He's dynamic in that you can be brain dead and go unga bunga but he has so much depth to his kit that if you wish to master him you will be rewarded for optimizing his combo routes. They are both so well designed and fun. I love my two boys so much
Pllllsssssss 🙏❤️❤️❤️😖make a video About (why everyone plays Bennett sucrose xainqu and Xainling) Bennett can get his own video but the other Three can be in a group video.
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Here are some pinpoints of their attributes that make them amazing
Sucrose
. Best accessible crowd control burst with big Aoe
. Vv and ttds buffs
. Insane em sharing /The best em buff at f2p lvl
. Anemo catalyst so lots of swirl damage
. Best con is c1 so makes her very accessible
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Xingqu
. Best hydro reaction enabler
. Hydro clans
. Small heal from passive
Elemental skills nuke when vaped.
Amazing signal target damage.
Best con is c2 or c3 so also easy to get.
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Xainling
Gouba cute.
Big Aoe burst damage that follows the active character that can snap shot buffs and has no. icd
Great synergy in pyro teams.
Literally free with her best weapon being free as well.
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Bennett
pyro archon everyone knows he is the best and I could write an essay About him, and I still think he deserves his one episode
Ps. Sucrose and xainqu are the only 4 Stars that have material saving talents
people play this team because its advertised as the best 4 star team (national), but the team works together well because bennett is a buffer who buffs the whole teams damage, xiangling and xingqiu are off field dps, and sucrose is for swirling everything together to provide reactions and defence shred. the team works together really well and its also why raiden shogun works instead of sucrose as well
"when Yelan comes out"
Ah, and I remember lucking into her rerun just recently... Actually got into the game just after her debut, so catching up on videos like these is an experience akin to digging up older siblings' time capsules.
If it’s performance vs personality, I have to go with personality. Let me take a great example that I have a lot of experience with. That example being Ayato vs Tartaglia.
I have both of these characters and I love playing both. And it is no competition that Ayato is the better unit. But… while he does better damage, he’s not as fun to play as Tartaglia. While Tartaglia has a lot of cooldown problems, it’s interesting to have to work around it, and he works wonderfully as a duel DPS (in fact, I’m looking forward to playing him with Heizou in the future for that reason). I have been using Ayato for over a month, and while he makes the game really easy, it feels too mindless… I like Tartaglia’s kit more because it’s more quick swap and versatile and his riptide mechanic is a whole lotta fun. Soooooo… yeah! That’s all!
While i adore his kit, I don’t think i could ever play him because of the story quest ha
Very cool video with lot of educated explanations. Thanks for sharing your wisdom ;-)
In terms of well designed I really think everyone can agree that Ayaka was a pretty thought out character. Her kit, E skill, and burst works well, plus her damage output is pretty good, excluding her dash as it gets clunky at times, she’s a 10/10 dps.
It's unfair. Even her NAs and CAs have good scaling. And she has a passive that's similar to Heart of Depth's 4 piece effect.
@@ki_dochannel93 Her NA's are about 2 notches higher than Ayato's, just for reference (also considering her passives she's still kinda broken)
That’s a good point about Bennett. I like using him and he’s going to he a main stay on my team for a good long while, but him meshing well with literally every character by boosting their attack DOES take away from fun combos. I’ve had a hard time deciding whether to remove him from my team for a specific challenge/domain because there is no other combo of characters that consistently does what he does and that’s kind of the issue for me. Not to make the game totally unplayable mind you, but I recently got Yelan and I’ve been agonizing bc I want to have a four element team but I can’t because I’m using Diluc and Bennett who are both Pyro qwq. Honestly, I’m considering switching him out for Diona because she’s the only other leveled healer I’ve got.
Dunno if this made much sense, it’s just nice to see a take like this one.
I think Noelle is very well designed. Well, apart from maybe her energy recharge issues. I like to think that she’s the Mario of the roster. Well-rounded and balanced, and skilled at multiple things. While not the best in any of them, she performs well enough to be considered a goid choice. She can shield, she can heal, she can do damage, she can tank, she has a rotation-safe infusion, and she has some significant AoE in her burst. She truly is a wondermaid
The only issue is that she kinda needs c6 to do well. I have her there but I’m still very hesitant to build her because of her play style and the characters I have rn. She’s really good and I’ve seen what she can do at her full potential
Personaly I mostly enjoy unique playstiles mixed with reliability. For example my main team consists if Diluc, Beidou, Rosalia and Barbara. Depending on domains I might change any one of them to Sucrose.
Diluc and Rosalia being my two main sources of dps. Beidou both being a tank and a dps support with Overload and Superconduct. And Barbara being a hydro aplicator support and top tier healer.
I can reliably take on any type of enemy and tank most types of damage due to Barbara's healing. I have not yet farmed enough to just slay any domain yet but it's only a time issue tbh
Well, they have to be Venti
Venti 💚💚💚💚
Personality ofc, I'm a f2p player even so if I'm not having fun with a character it's bad in my opinion, also the characters actuall in game personalities is a huge factor in that
I still hate Shenhe. What they did to her constellations really got to me.
It feels like rather than designing Shenhe first then adding onto her kit with constellations, instead it seems as if they designed her then chopped massive pieces of her kit away to lock them behind constellations and that just pissed me off. It's like no one except whales will ever be allowed to play Shenhe the way she was originally designed to be played, and in a game where getting a C6 can cost thousands of dollars or literally years worth of primo's that's just something I can't accept.
what bothers you about her? what would you change
Yeah, you described every character.
@@killerspreet7318 No. Childe is just as good at C0 as he is at c6. He has 15% damage increase which is nothing. The only thing his constellation adds is an easier playstyle... Which is just a question of skill. Also qiqi... Nothing gets really added aside from a revive at C6 that nobody needs anyway.
As mush as people hated on Kokomi, I love her design. She brought something new to the game no other character had, which was her intended gameplay of being an all rounder between damage and healing through her split scaling. The closest battle healer we had was Jean, but Kokomi stood out with completely focusing on one stat, hp. She's a great character with a really unique kit and I feel like she's a refresher from the annoying crit ratios everyone's so obsessed with