Game Theory: You're Fighting The WRONG Person! (Genshin Impact)
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Theorists, it's been a while since I talked about Genshin Impact and with the 2.5 update there is a new development I think I should cover. We need to talk about Tsaritsa, the Cryo Archon of Snezhnaya. Now, we the player have never actually SEEN her, but boy does she hold a lot of implications as to the future of the game's story. Get ready to go DEEP and find out who the real bad guy is and why you may have been fighting the WRONG PERSON this whole time!
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"Tsaritsa immediately starts giving off some serious Thanos vibes"
It's all fun and games until Tsaritsa says "you should've gone for the head".
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Your replies are cancer. Also hi
So many bots
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La Signora was probably more violent towards Venti because of her own personal hatred towards him. Signora was previously a citizen of Mondstadt, and when her husband died during a battle she blamed Barbatos for it. I know the lore in the crimson witch artefacts are about La Signora.
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Yup
Finally someone who gets it! That's exactly why
I think mat pat should make a video about the lore of cod zombies
I hate Signora for this and glad we averaged Venti.
btw, The tsaritsa doesn't actually have the electro gnosis. In the roguelike dungeon event we found out that Childe was searching for Scaramouch because he never delivered the gnosis to the tsaritsa
This is very true.
Scaramouche went yep nope mine now GOODBYE LMAO
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@@yuurikyouka6665 it's not just theirs, it's many popular TH-camrs. TH-cam has a problem they aren't fixing. Shocker I know
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Fun fact: all archon’s have magic hair. When they use their abilities it glows. If you look at the cutscene when signora takes venti’s gnosis, his hair never glows. Meaning he wanted his gnosis taken. He wasn’t actually being as resistant as it looks, it was an act. He’s secretly rooting for the tsaritsa, like zhongli.
what a nice detail, furina's doesn't glow.
@@Az4le.a She's a human
@@Az4le.ashe's not an archon
@@H3lix_R0gu3 i know, which is why I said it's a nice detail? did it sound sarcastic or sum? 😭
@@Az4le.a oh i thought you didn't know she was an archon so you were predicting something😭
*SPOILERS if you haven't finished all of Dain's quests as of 29.06.2022*
Khaenri'ah is supposedly the actual last nation we're supposed to visit and it it ABSOLUTELY extremely important to the main story. The Tsarisa might want to rebel against the gods, but Khaenri'ah was a land of vanilla HUMANS that actively rejected the rule of gods and the heavenly principles and it's why it was destroyed, because they kept taking and taking and taking from the gods' domain, presumably inventing technology without permission (Khaenri'ah's war machines), doing immoral alchemy (Rhinedottir's alchemy beasts i.e. "playing god") and harnessing cosmic powers (Dainsleif's "power from beyond") without playing by Heavenly Principle's rules. It's the "Adam and Eve" of Genshin's nations. Literally all of Khaenri'ah's surviving inhabitants were cursed with eternal life and all except Dain, with accelerated soul erosion (overall eternal torment) as a form of punishment (hilihcurls and abyss enemy origins). The "poetic" language sometimes used throughout the game makes the events and philosophies of all parties involved a little cloudy, but if you ever want to make a theory about Khaenri'ah, I suggest starting with Dainsleif. Most of Kaenri'ah's known lore comes from this gorgeous narrator meta-man.
and he will need to play every quest in sumeru, alot of it has a big chunk of lore about what happened to Kaenria
Hi I'm from there
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Correction: The Tsaritsa only has 3 out of 7 Gnosi. One of her Harbingers pocketed it and left all others in the dark (which led fo the Signora confrontation)
Yeah it was confirmed by childe in a limited event
Yeah, he missed the detail of that Childe event where he confirmed he's hunting the balladeer after taking it from Yae in the main story.
Technically yes but also Childe is on his way to get it from him
I guess eventually Ei's Gnosis goes to The Tsaritsa if Childe is still hunting for Scaramouche, she just hasn't gotten it yet
@@Jhay052347968 what event? when did it happen? /genq
Quick correction:
Scaramouche actually ran off with the electro gnosis, so the Fatui still only are in control of 3
But Scaramouche is a Fatui Harbinger, is he not?
@@thetopnep6165 he's basically gone rogue as told by childe in the labyrinth warriors event
@@thetopnep6165 apparently childe and the other fatui hadn't seen scaramouche since he got the gnosis and that's why childe came to inazuma during the labyrinth warriors event. they think scara went rogue
The correction is actually based, he did flee with the Gnosis and Tsaritsa sent Childe after him. Those are facts
But it might just be part of her plan, Scara's role is to keep the Gnosis since thise things are directed IP address to Celestia and imagine 4 Gnosisis in one place?! Celestia might be like "what's going on with them?" And who wants that since the Cryo archon literally wants to overthrown the government? =)))
Rather create a diversion, right?
was gonna comment that but someone already said it
i WISH matpat did more genshin theories
because MAAAN genshin has too many secrets, if only matpat wasn’t addicted to fnaf lore
Honestly the lack of Genshin content has nothing to do with fnaf, considering how spaced out FNAF content is nowadays.
I wonder if this theory will still work because of Nahida and Scaramouche’s intervention with the gnosis. I wonder if Nahida will give up both the dendro gnosis and the electro gnosis to the fatui because of the leading theory that Celestia is bad and the gods are trying to sever their ties with it. Gods I can’t wait to see how this game goes on!
She actually did gave both of the gnosis to Dottore in the archon quest
@@yenzy7997 Oh sorry I haven’t played through it yet
@@yenzy7997 it mean that matpat was right !?!?
@@yenzy7997
No, she just gave away the electro gnosis
@@yami_yugi_nightmare634 She traded the Electro Gnosis for The Doctor's other segments and she traded the Dendro Gnosis for the knowledge that "The sky is fake"
one glaring issue i spotted halfway through:
scaramouche has the electro gnosis and has gone rogue, meanibg it's NOT in the fatui's clutches. childe was sent to inazuma during that xinyan event solely to find scaramouche. so ... tsaritsa doesn't have the electro gnosis.
Finally. Someone points it out
@Ехtrа that's actually worse for everyone since from what I've seen of Scaramouche he seems to be much worse than the tsaritsa
Exactly what I was thinking this game has so much lore! Main reason I play it the story is great
That doesn't change the Tsaritsa's goals
@@MyxIsNotHome it doesn't, but it hinders them + it's still not even mentioned in the video.
As a loyal Genshin theorist, there are a few things I feel need to be addressed.
1: If you wanna talk about lore, read the manga. In the manga Venti clearly shows some kind of PTSD towards Celestia, no need to theorize. And if Tsaritsa wants to overthrow them she's not exactly the bad guy.
2: Tsaritsa, the way Venti was the god of freedom, used to be a god of love. Venti mentions her change of heart happening 500 years ago, back when the disaster in Khaenri'ah happened. Her relations with Tsaritsa changed a lot since then. Remember that Khaenri'ah wad a godless land.
3: The reason why Signora treats Venti so roughly is far more personal than just "you a lazy god". Signora actually hails from Mondstadt and thus used to be one of his subjects, but left after her beloved Rostam died. She's angry he doesn't even recognize her.
4: Venti was actively trying to stop the Stomterror conflict initially by talking with Dvalin, then giving powers to the Traveler, then trying to soothe the dragon with a holy lyre and eventually helping to take down the dragon himself. Not like he wasn't trying to do anything, as fun-loving as he is
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In reference to the last sentence of point 3.: perhaps Venti did recognise Signora, which would explain the bit of taunting as well as a lack of resistance from Venti in their scene in the game together as Venti may have wanted to give Signora a satisfying moment of revenge against him.
It's a 15 lore video meant for everyone, I wouldn't expect much of the manga material to be mentioned. The dynamic between Signora and Venti is interesting, but is an aside to the theory's main point. The same goes for Venti helping Stormterror. Specifically, Venti wasn't trying to quell Dvalin to save Mondstadt, he wanted to help his friend. But that doesn't pertain to the overarching story, especially when the game itself counts the majority of that as a prologue.
@@user-lk2ex7ng8r where have no arrow
If MatPat ever gets serious about exploring Genshin lore, oh boy will he have a field day with all the clues and somewhat subtle hints that are in the game
The reason why Signora was so violent in her snatching of the genesis is also partly due to a personal feud with Venti. Look into the Crimson witch artifacts, you'll see her story. She blames Venti's incompetence for her late lover's death. And hates/holds a grudge against him.
I was also hoping that you'd tap into the CN text more because there was a lot of translation liberties that was taken for artistic reasons and are not actually accurate. Which is why as someone who hangs out in both fandom, I find that the CN lore department are often much more accurate in predicting the future chapters. I would strongly suggest you cross reference some of them, they are quite excellent.
Tian li 天理 is actually a phrase that exists in chinese, used in longer phrases like :天理难容 (Tian li nan rong) (something along the lines of Order would not allow). It's... less destiny and more natural order, like physics, but imposed upon this world. Like karma, or things like balance. Basically, rules of the world. In Genshin, it is hinted that the rules of the world is opressive and similar to dictatorship.
By arrogation in the original terms, they meant less taking something, and more that humans have advanced to a technological level they should not have, this is how how powerful humans should be, and therefore they shall be destroyed. Part of the reason Khanriah was destroyed was that Gold, the alchemist, figured out how to create life. And that is a power the principles determines that humans are not meant to have. And for the achievement of one man, the entire kingdom was destroyed. Of course there was also the matter that the things Gold created were monsters and they were out of control, but still.
There's also a theory in CN that Visions, or in CN, Eye(s) of the God(s), are used to spy on those Celestia deem dangerous. It makes sense from the original text. These are the Eyes of the Gods, they're given by Celestia and not the Archons, given to those with the power to become gods and binds them to their wish so they become so vulnerable when their Visions were lost. Of course, this is just a working theory somewhere.
Much like how in some literature Celestia would be used as a name for a personification or a god/goddess, 天理 can also be used as a name. In fact in the CN fandom it is often seen as and referred to as a name/ title.
There is so much lore in Genshin, and it is even tied to their broader universe with Honkai Impact. Honestly none of these theories Ive mentioned here have considered Honkai yet. But hey, I don't play Honkai. If you want more in-depth analysis of the CN version, go to Bilibili.
Idk if it was in the story quest or if it was a line in one of the "About" character quotes but I heard that Venti hated Celestia bc it was more like a prison and he was enslaved there for a while until he got cased down onto Tyvat.
Hey Matpat. You missed one major chunk of lore that changes how the events of the game we're going to play out. The tsaritsa never got the Electro gnosis because the balladeer who hates Humanity has stolen it and is missing. Also to add to your theory of Celestia being evil in the manga Celestia is shown to be designed like a prison and when asked about it by Vanessa the ancient hero venti becomes flustered and uncomfortable unwilling to answer
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YoungboyNext
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He probably didn't know because that was mentioned in event
Venessa actually
Can’t blame him, it is not part of the main game (yet) and was featured in a now gone event
Honestly thought a "scaramouche is trying to become the Shogun" theory was coming. The Traritsa is kinda lazy.
Please note and correct me if I'm wrong, but venti and zhongli are by far the oldest 2 archons and are also the only 2 that are from the original set of 7 since the before the archon war.
The cryo archon, as mentioned by others, had a clear change of heart and wants Celestia out of the picture so humanity can live without the influence of God's, I'm sure.
or she wants something else entirely, we don't know anything right now.
nahida is also one of the original gods now after rukhadevata was erased from irminsul
@@domajjj2335but nahida does not share the memories:(
The lore ingame also implied that the "Primordial God" lost to the "Second who came" that hijacked the heavenly principle while pretending to be the original Primordial God.
I saw a hilarious theory that the fatui is actually collecting all the gnosis’s because childe keeps eating all their chess pieces. I know it makes no sense but I still love it.
Partially true, they use them for playing chess
To be fair, seeing as Ei’s sister died in the cataclysm, I don’t imagine that Ei would want much to do with Celestia anymore…
True. I'm pretty sure if Tsaritsa had approached Ei as she had done with Zhongli, she would've given her gnosis without the cost of a few Inazuman soldiers and La Signora.
@@wisteriyaki "Seven ideals for seven gods, and of these, Eternity is nearest unto Heaven." I wonder then what Zhongli means by this.
@@lexinvictus4801 Assuming it means eternity is the closest to reach Celestia, Mai Miko did mention Ei could reach it without the gnosis?
@@lexinvictus4801 if I had to make an assumption.
Notice the Unknown God's and Raiden Shogun's personality. Raiden is a mirroring the Unknown God with how their ideals of control are quite similar.
@@justyes979 Or she could she reach Celestia by meditating since she was in the plane euthymia
The Tsaritsa doesn’t have the electro gnosis. Scaramouche does, he dipped after getting it. 3 days later, after we steal documents from the Tenryo commission for Yae to convince Sara, we fight Signora. In an event we learn that Scara disappeared after getting the gnosis for reasons not yet explained. She’ll get it eventually, but she doesn’t have it yet.
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@@user-lk2ex7ng8r no
the reason is it was a trade for our life yae reveles that to us after you complete the archon quest
the fact that scaramouche has plans on his own since he is a prototype to become the puppet before raiden shogun is created
means we might have a boss fight with him
@@Natha_Kun were gonna have a boss boss fight for every harbinger since we get one every region but we might get two in sumeru because there are 11 harbingers and seven regions that and scaramouche is doing his own thing so we might see a clash between harbingers
when childe said "it's my duty to see the will of the tsaritsa fulfilled" the text on the bottom said zhongli was talking. Yae Miko handed the gnosis over to save you from a fatui harbinger named Scaramouche. i recommend this game very much, because it's the greatest i've played.
With the newest lore about Gnosises provided by Skirk, this theory really aged like fine wine
Indeed, now the Gnoses are made of fantasy uranium. And poorly shielded.
Mat Pat: Tsaritsa is not the true villain!
Other Genshin Lorists: Wow, you are late to the party... but a welcome one for sure.
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I don't like this story , change it. Make it such that tsarista is THE big bad and that the end should be us teaming with athe divine principles thingie and defeating the big bad. If this happens , I believe my entire day typing these comments will not be wasted.
@@user-jm6qe6sz2p Hey, up yours, dude
Matpat: Tsaritsa isn't the bad guy!
Everyone: we're 4, actually 5 parallel universes ahead of you.
@@user-lk2ex7ng8r it's just a random Russian video man how is game theorist trash!? This isn't even proof
@@rektless. click bait.
Sure bcs tsaritsa is not a guy in fact it is a lady *insert 4th dimension brain template*
@@user-lk2ex7ng8r lies. all lies.
next thing we'll know he will be theorising about how the abyss aren't evil
Fun fact: at 12:11, the Ei (The raiden shogun) actually had to give the gnosis to Yae because she was in a realm of her own mind which she couldn’t take her gnosis to, so Ei was just having Yae safe guard it as a friend in the meanwhile
my personal favorite theory/hc is that the archons weren’t given a choice in the destruction of khaenri’ah. Like, that they were manipulated or controlled to do it, or that their gnosis brainwashes them into following orders (hence the willingness to part with it later). It would also explain why Zhongli can’t talk about it. The idea that he formed a contract to keep quiet in exchange for something (power, safety for Liyue, more control of his personal choice) and that, because of his nature as the god of contracts, he can’t break it.
(fun bonus concept: it isnt just that it would go against his principles, i love the idea that he physically can’t. Like, it would hurt him to do so or he literally can’t say the words.)
The archons were protecting their nations. Only the Celestia gods destroyed Khaenri’ah.
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One thing I wanna add to Venti's part is that his Gnosis wasn't really taken forcefully, it's more like he let Signora take it. Even if he's the weakest among the 7 archons, he's still a god.
Yup exactly if he wanted to he could stop her
Yeah I'm sure he knew that Signora was originally from Mondstadt and didn't want to hurt her even if he very much could (especially since they were right in the middle of the city + he probably already knew his gnosis would be taken and didn't seem to value it much anyway).
I don't like how Venti keeps getting portrayed as this weak wimpy guy.. like yes, he is weak, but only when compared to the six other archons. Dude is *still* an archon. We know that Havria, who was one of the weakest gods to exist, turned everyone around her to salt when she was killed due to the uncontrollable release of her powers. It's very much clear that, compared to humans, gods, no matter how weak, are still more powerful and this is even more true for archons. So it's laughable to say Venti couldn't have stopped Signora if he wanted to. I mean, come on, this dude literally terraformed Mond at one point, he might not be as strong as he once was but he's still an archon lmao
Salt god just killed everybody when they tried to kill her.
And he was strongest God when he was at his prime
And he knew that lol he littely can know the future so he defenetly knew
Me: watching this a year later and realizing Childe is tagged as Zhongli 4:11
watching this after the fontaine update, and I truly cannot believe how spot on his analysis and theorizing about the Heavenly Principles was
ACTUALLY the tsaritsa DOESNT have the electro one, because the harbinger who took it broke ties with the Fatui
He should do a theory about scara that guy holds a lot of lore-
@@Amat3ur_h0ur never forget. "Says the sky is a lie.
Refuses to elaborate.
Leaves."
@@buttsagonton101 and most importantly, will he do the fendango?
@@Amat3ur_h0ur NO LITERALLY... it feels like everyone forgot his lore.. especially that one event that has mona fischl and the traveler in it. he literally said "the stars, the sky.. its all a gigantic hoax. a lie."
@@ffvmpzz HE LITERALLY KNOWS THE SECRETS OF TEYVAT WHY IS NOBODY PAYING ATTENTION TO HIM?!
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He really should!
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The lore in genshin it's complex, ever changing and oh dear Lord someone right facts because we never know how much in game is here say and how much is actually correct
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@@isdrakon9802 Yeah, and he doesnt even know that zhongli is the only of the three we have meet so far that is affected by erosion AND he doesnt know barbados gave away his gnposis intntionally!
@@bjrnarvikene2460 he did??
Correction: the tsaritsa doesn't have control of the electro gnosis, it is revealed in the limited event "labyrinth warriors" that the harbinger, Scaramouche ran off with it.
Scaramouche was also to be the original vessel for the electro archon.
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Scaramouch about to exploit his similarity with Ei and gnosis to gain access to celestia
well scaramouche was more of a test to see if she can make a dummy rather than be the true vessel, but she felt bad about just killing it so she discarded it into inazuma to roam. So yea i guess you could say that.
no, he was a test,
Okay, who else hears Gabriel Agreste when Zhongli talks? Just me? Cool.
It’s the same voice actor
Bro actually scara rans off with the electro gnosis planning to use it for himself but later in sumeru the tsaritsa gets both electro and dendro gnosis. Still it is wrong to assume that tsaritsa has the electro gnosis before sumeru was released.
venti isn’t bad at his job, his job just isn’t what you think it is:
it might seem like he’s bad at being a god until you realise that he’s not just the god of anemo, he’s the god of freedom as well, so he’s not ruling monstadt because it’s his JOB not to rule monstadt. also, he does do his job in the sense that he’s protecting monstadt, as he freed it from decarabian, gave dvalin the strength to defeat durin and when dvalin was cursed and tricked by the abyss order he was immediately on the case and eventually freed him as well. also, signora didn’t take the other archons’ gnosis by force because a) the other nations were more reliant on their gods than monstadt so they needed a window of opportunity and b) if signora tried to 1v1 morax or ei she would get clapped (which is exactly what happens with the raiden shogun), barbados is just weaker than they are
He also sneezed away a whole mountain to make the land of mondstadt warm and prosperous (the leftover of the mountain is musk reef where you can enter the spiral abyss). This was explored in the temporary 1.1 event content, it's pretty cool!
There's also the history of Signora, her husband/fiance. and Venti's negligence in the past... A hundreds years old grudge that likely also influenced her actions against Venti
Agreed 100% besides, they are even in the middle of the city. If venti had tried to retaliate seriously, mond would be sent flying
@@baolinhnguyen7111 yeah Venti didn’t fight back because he cares about Mondstadt. The abyss messed with Dvalin to bring Venti out into the open, so that they could easily attack him and get the gnosis.
exactly! also, venti could've fought back but the location and situation weren't to his benefit. And im pretty sure venti would've given up his gnosis willingly.
while i do agree that the tsaritsa is most definitely looking to overthrow celestia, and that she herself may not end up being our main enemy, i do think the discussion around her shouldn't leave out the fact that the fatui have canonically exploited children for labor and soldiers, and have experimented on children. yes, her end goal might end up aligning with ours, but i don't think we should say she Isn't a villain.
Yeah, she's a villain just not an antagonist
she almost destroyed a continent.. i think we can say she's a bad person
Yea..looks like the game gave us 3 enemies. Celestia, fatui, and abyss..oddly enough, childe embodies all 3. Vision from celestia(not sure if it from there), delusion from tsarista, and devouring deep from his training in the abyss
@@eh9618 And then you've got the minor inconveniences that are the Treasure Hoarders :P
@@eh9618 yeah I believe it was mentioned that Childe is basically a walking spoiler. I forgot if it was a dev or a character designer.
We need a new theory for the new updates! 3.3 / 3.2
oh so true!!, hopefully he will make something soon!!!
I'm not sure if it's mentioned this early in the story but i believe an artifact set mentions that the tsaritsa and barbatos (venti) are very close friends, however they haven't talked since the archon war
Close! Venti and the Tsaritsa _were_ close, but she changed after the cataclysm (destruction of Khaenri'ah)
In the in-game book "Before Sun and Moon", they mention how the Gods of Celestia aren't originally from Teyvat and that they were invasive beings that took control of the world and destroyed any evidence saying otherwise. In the first Enkanomiya update (2.4), we find this book while exploring the region. It could heavily tie in to what the Tsarista's motive is for rebelling against them
Of course, that's just a Theory... A GAME THEORY
Wait, where do u get that book?? Do i have to finish a quest??
@@Lumiexia You need to find it while exploring Enkanomiya, in fact you have to get it to be able to complete a side quest for the librarian ghost in Enkanomiya
That’s also why the serpent was killed, he accidentally read a book saying the same thing, and was sentenced to death by celestia
Though it is clear that she is against celestia, i doubt is because of that. Orobashi was forced to kill itself just for reading the book (in other words, just for knowing about the truth).
@@MaxJey2 ofc not, it was mentioned by... Venti? I think? that Tsaritsa used to be kind before Khaen'riah. She started going against Celestia after being forced to commit genocide.
this video just actually made me realize how deeply invested i am in the game’s lore that i immediately saw all of the inconsistencies in the video 😭
RIGHT??
me too🥲 I strongly believe in the theory about Lumine building Khaenri'ah, since they might be immortals, they jump from world to world (who knows what happened in their last journeys), they have wings, and Lumine has been awake for 500 years now
Same
@@yellowenn Aether and Lumine explored the world of Teyvat but they saw Khaneriah falling so they tried to escape
@@yellowenn aah a fellow WEI watcher
There's a funny voiceline for Venti about Celestia, but I forgot the actual words.
He was talking about how "the water is bland" (You know what that means? No cider!) and how he doesn't like the food there.
He even said he wouldn't go there even if he was invited.
I never imagined matpat would ever do theories on genshin impact
Wait til Matpat tries to get his theories about Khaenri'ah, I would definitely be very hyped when it does
Touch grass
HONESTLY i love genshin lore videos esp ab fallen nations like khaenri’ah. I really hope he looks into more of the lore of the game :)
He'll make a vid on Khaenri'ah if mihoyo sponsor him again kek
oh my gosh same
I bet he will tell that 1 point that paimon is evil
I'm kind of impressed at how little Matpat has done for Genshin considering just how much theory fodder there is. There are DOZENS of topics he could use in videos. I guess it's just not his thing.
STRONGLY AGREE
i mean. tbf he only did the theory bc he was sponsored to do so, he might do more genshin theorys tho bc he just did finish all his theorys for the new fnaf game
Him only doing a Genshin Theory when Genshin sponsored him should be a heavy implication of that.
@@arbeast04 don't understimate Matpat's insanity when it comes to making more fnaf theories
I mean, can you blame him? One, sponsored theories aren't going to be for the hardcore fanbase alone. Genshin's sponsoring him moreso for wider reach. Plus, Matpat doesn't actually play the game deeply right? You can only make so many theories especially long ones based on in game evidence
Right now, the electro gnosis isn’t possessed by the Tsaritsa. Scaramouche (A harbinger) went rogue after receiving it from Yae Miko and Tartaglia has been tracking him down.
Now make a theory about Sumeru. You won’t 😏
The amount of lore for you to use in genshin is suprisingly a whole lot
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Yes ¤ exactly
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How is it surprising, the map is bigger than gta V
@@foxesarenotred so true
Matpat: The Tsarita isn't bad!
Lore players: one step ahead of you!
More like 5 steps but ok
As a lore player I was a little disappointed about this one, but I still had to watch since I love Genshin and MatPat’s theories
Friendly reminder venti can teleport so if he wanted to escape he could have
Matt Patt we need your theory for patch 3.0 onwards
Correction: Venti ISN'T one of those "ignorant gods" - he KNOWS that there's darkness at play in terms of Celestia - as seen in the official Genshin manga - and he didn't seem to care much after his gnosis was taken. Plus, SPOILERS FOR SIGNORA'S BACKSTORY - the reason Signora took his gnosis so violently was because, during the attack on Khaenri'ah, Signora's lover Rostam was slain. She hates Venti's guts cuz Rostam's death was the result of a cataclysm that was supposedly orchestrated by the gods (which I heavily believe the Archons had no say in, not that Signora knew) so her archon - cuz she was a former Mondstadter - failed her and her lost love. Just wanted to throw that out there.
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This was the first thing I thought of too. The team probably just missed it during their research, since genshin does have a LOT of lore to cover. I definitely thought that Signora took the gnosis in that way because of personal reasons.
Where did you find this out?
@@Melotaku There's a lot of places you can check. Elegy for the End is a party of signora's story, Witch of Flames set also has signora's story
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There's also an official graphic novel for genshin where Venti pretty clearly expresses his distaste for Celestia.
Also the apples there apparently taste terrible.
Venti himself is terrible
Venti himself isn’t terrible
@@wier2920 no
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QUESTION for genshin community as a new player would I be able to play previous quest and STORY events?
It's more convincing after watching the *"Teyvat Chapter Interlude Teaser: A Winter Night's Lazzo"* a few months after MatPat's video. Pierro, the No.1 Fatui Harbinger, said: "Because in this chessboard, *checkmate is not where the game ends."*
I swear Matt Pat could do another Genshin theory😭 given that Fontaine is out with the BIGGEST lore drops ever.
"Oh yeah, pronouncing Shneznaya proves we do our research."
Also Game Theory: *calls Childe Zhongli*
what the hell happened under your comment...
upd: nevermind, they're everywhere
@@nershacreave6044 bots apparently?
yikes all the bots
it wasn’t game theory who did it it was from the footage
@@rubiirosie worse: a *bot war*
Sorry about all the bots on your comment D: Also, I'm glad someone else noticed!
I’m still laughing about everyone talking about Childe being called Zhongli.
Pls it made me giggle 😭😭
Why are there so many bots here
Just goes to show that he definitely doesn’t play the game if not barely and was literally handed this by hoyoverse
One of the editors definitely made an oopsie there.
@@SuppressedSoldat Matpat doesn't edit these videos. An editor made a mistake
The judgment thing immediately reminded me of Fontaine's archon who according to the intro video seeks to "judge" everything and everyone in basically court. I feel like they'll have a big part and maybe explain the Heavenly Principles a bit more.
I love the game so much and would like to see another theory video if it’s possible. And I love the lore that the game has so far
thankfully we did get another ideo from matpat
clarification: Venti did not "abandon" Mondstat. He simply decided that as the archon of freedom it would be unfit for him to rule Mondstat. He did NOT abandon is responsibilities as an archon!
When he is needed as an Archon he rises to the occasion- being woken up from his slumbers (THAT HE MIGHT NOT EVEN HAVE CONTROL OVER.) He did this during the cataclysm (fighting Durin) - when the aristocracy got too bad- and most recently during the stormterror incident.
Venti is not an archon that abandoned his duties! It would be unfair as to categorize him as such.
true
Stop defending his actions!
@@aidenbutterfly8015 no
I haven't even met him in the game, and he's already my favorite character XD
@@galaxythedragonshifter do you even play the game?
Some Corrections
-The Gnosis isn't technically the source of archons powers, As Venti says, it connects them to Celestia. Raiden confirms this by being able to use electro without being in possession of her gnosis
-Tsaritsa doesn't have the Electro Gnosis. It's mentioned that after Scaramouche got it, he disappeared and never handed it over.
-Celestia isn't the heavens. It mentioned that Celestia wasn't a part of Teyvat, in a "Noah's ark flood" they killed all the vishaps that inhabited teyvat originally. It is theorized that Teyvvat is based on Norse Mythology, where the sustainer is "Heimdall" and where the travelers were at the beginning was the rainbow bridge
-Venti didn't go to "hang out under a tree" he went to heal after signora injured him
-Venti actually trusts Tsaritsa since they have a long history together
It is a source of certain powers they have like zhonglis ability to create mora tho so I'm sure it's important to the others in another way
@@Seven-yh6st I believe the gnosis is what gives them the ability to give Visions. As well as coming with some other abilities. I would say the gnosis amplifies their power as guyun stone Forrest (made from spears zhongli threw during the Archon war) and he was able to do that without a gnosis.
Erosion is not only subject to having a gnosis. Azhdaha has also experienced erosion, which led to the fight with Morax.
@@trajannim9928 i dont believe i mentioned erosion
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13:48 when u said team-up i instantly thought of: oh wait, mihiyo would probably kill the tsaritsa for more plot.
I still thank she evil
We now know that the gnoses are parts of the dead 3rd descender. Maybe the Tsaritsa is collecting the gnoses to revive them so they can help her rebel against Celestia.
"Tsaritsa and the Fatui are in control of 4 of the 7 Gnosis"
Actually, Scaramouche, the Fatui Harbinger Yae Miko handed the Electro Gnosis to has gone AWOL. This was told during the 2.2 patch "Into the Perilous Labyrinth of Fog", where Childe tells us he's looking for him.
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Minor information, doesn’t really change the theory at all
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@@randomcat7246 kinda. it implies Scaramouche betrayed the Tsaritsa and has no desire to give her the Electro Gnosis
THANK YOU I was about to comment this right after Mat says "4 of the 7 Gnosis" part
When you look into the Lore of Khaenri'ah, you quickly find contradictions, things that dont fit just right. Then what comes to mind is "History is written by the victor" and the victor was Celestia.
The most common Theory is that Khaenri'ah, may have advanced technologically to far from Celestias norm (Like Sal Vindagnyr/Dragonspine) and were attacked for that. They defended themselves and lost. Now 500 years past, Khaenri'ah is portrayed as the "Bad Guys" for doing something they shouldn't have and it doesnt help that Gold (Alchemist from Khaenri'ah) summoned or created shadow creatures to battle that ultemately ravaged Teyvat after the War. The War itself and the turmoil following were dubbed "the Cataclysm" afterwards and left a bitter taste in the citizens of Teyvat (did also not help that at least 2 Archons died during the War, the Dendro God of the Woods and Baal/Makoto former Electro Archon and Sister to Ei/Beelzebub the current Electro Archon)
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Why does so few peopem talk about Gold the Alchemist hes probably did some abyss magic and caused something at Khanreah and celestia had no choice but to obliterate the nation
@@ceci--lia Oh interesting, havent played since before this Update... So the Black Blood was in a Meteorite and was from off-World? As far as i recall, the Black Blood was used by Gold to create creatures, like the Rifthounds and Durin, but there were no hints that humanity itself was of alien origin (well befoer Enkanomiya that is)
matpat, since theres a new region now.. you should DEFINATELY do a new game theory!! the new region has so much lore. and i mean SO MUCH lore.
4:41, I shared the same reaction to Nahida handing over two gnoses in ONE CONVERSATION.
Correction: Yae also didn't just gave the Gnosis just because. She gave it to Scaramouche because we might die because of the tataragami that we are exposed to when we were about to fight Scaramouche.
yup
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True but let's be honest, they're gonna take it off him
The story goes much deeper with the 2.5 update. There are actually 3 realms, The human realm, the light/vishap realm and the void/abyss realm. originally there was no human realm or gods. The land was inhabited by 7 dragon lords and vishaps. But an ENTITY(probably from another world) came and defeated the dragon lords and put a layer above called the human realm which we are currently in. It is said that the sky is actually a false sky and that the archons that were given authority by celestia and can be controlled using the gnosi(lmao). Also to mention when humans of khanreia got too close to a certain truth they were wiped out by celestia and this is precisely why our twin in the game is fighting against celestia using the abyss order. Honestly it is already told taht the abyss order wants to take celestia down but then why would they make 2 separate organisations for the same goal. It doesnt make sense to me. something is not clicking. There is definetely something missing. Hope you make a theory on that
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YoungboyNext.
just wanted to add onto this. we do actually know(kinda) who the entity is, and they're called the "primordial one". the story of them creating humanity has strong parallels with Noah's arc. i recommend you read the ingame book "Before sun and moon", a part of the Enkanomiya collection. it's one of the biggest world building drops we have so far :D
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"7 dragons" and "primordial one" this awfully familiar to dota2 lore to me
Thanks for typing this long explaination , as someone who doesn't give attention to non voiced quests that much I had no clue about all the different realms at all lol.
Considering the knaves recent activity to help protect Fontaine I think the tsaritsa and fatui may not be the evil they seem to be portrayed to be. I personally do not feel that the knave helped Fontaine for selfish reasons alone. The cryo god even is referred to be a loving and kind god.
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I just thought about this but in the 3.2 archon quest Nahida also known as Lesser Lord Kusanali says that there are records on your twin and goes on to say that your twin might be from teyvat but says nothing about there being any records of you the player character so I am wondering if the twin that you see in game is the real twin or a puppet because in Raiden Shogun's Story Quest Act II we see Raiden Shogun fight her puppet or a clone of her self. So I am wondering if the unknown god cloned the twin and if so why and did the clone of the twin and if it got loose.
Gnosis aren’t actually that important to the Archcon. It needs to be remembered that the Archons are Archons because each of them defeated/killed many of their own kind to assume that position. It’s only after that they get the Gnosis. Also it has been implied that Venti went REALLY easy on Seniora and he just wanted to get rid of his Gnosis.
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Technically venti didnt kill any god, decarabian got killed by a rebellion and the last strike was given by Amos. :P
Ur the type of guy to say "well, actually🤓"
Don't forget that Venti didn't JUST go easy on Signora, he also CHOSE to Make himself Vulnerable to save the Traveler from her. The wind is Impossible to defeat if you can't Catch it, and he was uncatchable until she Threatened someone he cared about, forcing him to Stop being evasive... And Yeah, he clearly didn't care much for the Gnosis in the first place, Kinda doesn't Mesh well with his Carefree vibes he actively tries to Put out about himself.
Venti probably supports Tsaritsa's goal to overthrow Celestia
Fact: The tsaritsa hasn't actually gotten ei's gnosis yet, instead it was stolen by Scaramouche, one of the fatui harbingers. Childe is currently on the search for The Baladeer to retrieve the stolen gnosis back to the tsaritsa.
on the other hand, (red-headed step-) Childe is constantly left out of the loop for what the actual plan is, so it's possible that similar to Liyue, he's just a diversion to make everyone think Scar went rogue and genuinely believes the orders he was given.
Kusanali got it now
@@_meowgor not anymore :)
too bad dottore took her job
Fact: Dottores clone has it now
Although this video comes from a year ago before even Sumeru or Winter Night's Lazzo came out, but this theory still haven't been disproved. Maybe only supported more. After we learn that the Gnosis don't even belong to Archons to begin with, but were stolen from Dragons. The Celestia seems to be more evil, if you look at it better. And that has to be only the tip of the iceberg. Of course, this was easily one of the most simple theories everyone had in mind.
I would love to see a lore update video now or sometime during the 3.0 updates since sumeru is out and nahida has given us ALOT of info about the travelers twin!!
Actually, you probably don't know this since it was in an event in 2.2 but the electro gnosis didn't end up in the hands of the tsaritsa, the 6th harbinger who got his hands on it, defected from them. Tartaglia was sent to look after him to retake the gnosis but to no avail.
If I think about it, Scaramouche Is a puppet, so if he Gained the Gnosis for himself.. Would he become playable-?
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@@Cvbee he doesn't need a gnosis to be playable because we already know that he has a vision
@@itsmertbitch5790 he actually doesn't, unless there's some new lore I haven't heard about, we've never seen his vision, So he may not have one, Also we haven't seen him use any powers so, As the prototype puppet He May not have any power, But ig we'll just to wait
Theory: Venti could teleport, we saw him doing so. He could have easily escaped when they took his gnosis. He didn’t even attempt to stop signora. You could argue that he was frozen, but it was only his legs and he could’ve easily escaped. So he probably was fine with/maybe even wanted his gnosis being taken.
and that he didn't move because he wanted to annoy/diss Signora XD
My personal theory is that Venti didn’t want his gnosis, but wanted to communicate with Vanessa, the Human who ascended. I think that he wanted that freedom, but didn’t want to let it go. I also think that Venti would have let it get taken, realizing the tsaritsa’s plan.
Plus he's a bard and Venti is also know to a little bit dramatic, I wont be surprise that Signora actually tickled him when she took out Venti's Gnosis.
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@@gaychelthereader373 I mean didn't NO ONE want the Mondstadt Gnosis? So it just fell on Barbatos?
After what happened in Fontaine, it seems like matpat is right on the money. Almost all the archons are either indifferent to it or straight up despise it and after what happened in Fontaine, I don't blame them
6:44 Correction:Yae Miko IS NOT an Archon,she just had the gnosis because Raiden(The actual archon) had enough power and the gnosis might make her weaker
LOL HE THOUGHT YAE MIKO WAS THE ELECTRO ARCHON?!
@@VictorMartinez-en8zr Nope he was referring to Raiden but shows Yae bc she was the one who gave it to the Fatooooooey.
The thing is, MatPat, is that The Tsaritsa still doesn’t have the electro gnosis. Kunikuzuchi (Scaramouche), a prototype puppet vessel of Raiden Ei has it since Yae Miko gave it to him in order to save the Traveler.There was an event explaining that Childe/Tartaglia is finding him for that reason, to take it back. So they (the Fatui) still have 3/7 gnosis, since Scaramouche took it upon himself to take the gnosis of his creator/mother and betray the Fatui.
Celestia and the Tsaritsa may not be the big bad, but the balladeer himself. He’s chaos incarnate, a stronger puppet than the Raiden Shogun, holding a gnosis, and having a plan of his own that no one knows about. He’s not affiliated with anyone, he’s just playing everyone by his hands.
Also you can read some artifacts and some in-game items for some additional lore of some characters, especially Scaramouche. Thank you for covering Genshin Impact again, hope we get to see more theory from you soon!
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Scaramouche as the big bad? You should check out Enkanomiya.. Your info is pretty out of date.
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@@jessicam9491 that statement is a speculation of mine lmao. I already played Enkanomiya and yes I know how shitty Celestia is in-game. But for me, the mere presence of Scaramouche and the uncertainty of his actions and plans is still more frightening than condescending gods. Celestia destroyed Enka and some parts of Teyvat 500 years ago, but Scaramouche can literally be the personification of “fear of the unknown” because of how little we really know of him.
@@jessicam9491 its not out of date just not connected yet what we know is the much ran away with the ginoses and child is the one tasked to fined him ( wich is why we may be seeing him a lot ) my thirty is the much is going to team up with the abyss order bc the much seas he knows the "truth" and the abyss already seems to know that the stars are fake like the big bad is going to be the sibling with the abisorder the fatui are totly a red herring ,
6:44 Yae Miko didn't trade the Gnosis willingly, she exchanged it for the life of the traveler.
true but she hardly seemed concerned about it.
@@Nowaylarry She said she didn't know what it was.
@@AnthonnyAG as if Yae never lied about anything lol
it was suppose to be ei that willingly gave up the gnosis to yae and do anything with it, would be a drip chess skin doe 🥶
Isn’t that of her own will?
Going back here after learning that the gnosis is made of the remains of the 3rd descender.
your actually extremely right i had the same theory too plus we got more evidence for this in the fontaine story quest where foscalors says the exact same thing right before she kills herself 'wanting to change/pass destiny'
Man, matpat is just a little bit behind on the lore. Now we know there was a primordial one, aliens, dragon kings who were banished or overthrown by the aliens and more.
fr, we can tell that he’s forced to do the video since he’s sponsored. im not mad, just disappointed
@@ziqdam1396 i mean even he is sponsored, he could be up to date
I dont think he's up to date, maybe he plays the game but definitely not up to date based on a single inconclusive clue:
The fact that he doesn't know how to spell Khaenri'ah suggests that he might've not been through the Dainsleif quests - either that or it was just to introduce the joke 'I would go back and look up for the pronunciation of kAyNri'aH but uhm that entire nation was destroyed sooo what're they gonna do about it?'
Maybe he started playing after the theory regarding Zhongli but after a year or so you'd think one would be pretty close, if not already, up to date.
Maybe getting up to date isn't so easy and I'm just an ignorant day one player.
Maybe all of the above is just me unhealthily obsessed with the game.
Who knows? Hard to tell!
There were aliens?
This is like the harry potter episode all over again xD
If matpat actually does the lore of the whole game, its never gonna end
lol yes
fnaf all over again except i’m actually invested lmao
@@aquasiox4033 like they say 'history repeats itself' IF Matpat does go DEEEP into genshin just as deep as he did with Fnaf's lore, or deeper(?), Idrk Both games both has complex, dark, and ridiculously detailed lores😶✨
@@aquasiox4033 L fnaf is better
i never thought i would live to see the day matpat makes another genshin related video
Could you do, like, a deep dive into the lore of the Fatui and the Harbingers and maybe theories on their origins? It would be AMAZING to see!
I love how even mat doesn’t acknowledge dendro as an element
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Thats another level of (un)luckiness
@@keita744 naw all of the comments are bots
Pick your fighter:
1. Earth
2. Water
3. Fire
4. Air
5. Ice
6. Electricity
7. *Tree*
It barely even is tho
Anyone else notice how when Childe said “I must fulfill the Tsaritsa’s will” it said Zhongli was speaking 💀
O_O
I noticed that as well.
they forget to add "'s wallet" after zhongli
@@yannlee7821 LMAO
Poor Childe 😔
Matpat: "you're fighting the wrong person!"
Raiden: *unalives Signora* 😐
well, tbh.. the reason why venti lost his gnosis in a violent way is because signora particularly had a beef with him. when she said "absentee archon of mondstadt", it's rather personal because she lost her lover before with the reason being that venti didn't help his nation at the war where signora's lover died.
tsaritsa may also have some beef with venti but i'm not sure what exactly (vemti mentioned that tsaritsa cut off ties with him 500 yrs ago). i don't think it's really about his way of ruling mondstadt...
Matpat: I would look up the pronunciation of Khaen’rhia but their entire nation is destroyed so what are they gonna do about it?
Kaeya, Dainsleif and Albedo: 👁👄👁
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Khaenri'ah has not yet perished, has it now?
You are still standing here after all.
@@shar3859 oh i know that dainsleff met kaeya in inazuma
@@yuanlatina8258 sadly that's fake :(
@@adamant2239 oh really???
At this point, I think Matpat's job, atleast in regards to Genshin Impact, is only to bring to light some of the most popular theories that are already in the fandom
He did the same thing with BOTW. Hopefully he puts in more FNAF quality theorist chutzpah in future Genshin videos. Actually Honkai is right up his alley too that game's lore is thick.
i like this comment, annoying as the "Actually" comments may be.
I mean, that's kind of what he did in a lot of the fandom's he's casually in, isn't it?
I need another theory vid on genshin cause there is A LOT more lore added especially after all the sumeru events
Dude that theory is very common and everyone is aware at least the idea of the Tsaritza going to war against Celestia is probably how this is going to roll out
"Tsaritsa immediately starts giving off some serious Thanos vibes"
Me just waiting for Snezhnaya release so I can walk to Tsaritsa as Diluc:
"As you can see. I am not dead"
epic manga reference
I see, a fellow diluc main
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If she drops as an ice catalyst, I'll have the true team of Catalysts.
I'll be a god on genny.
Doesn't the traveler's sibling also say they're on a quest against destiny when they finally meet up? And it would make sense why they're so sure that their sibling will join them at the end of their journey.
English says it as destiny, original Chinese says “Heavenly Principle”. It’s beyond me why they changed it
@@Ash-qd2ke basically the same thing. Heavenly Principle and whims of fate basically equate to the same idea. the heavens or something so above you says this is the way of things. to defy it is to go against the natural order.
Yes, remember that it was destiny or the heavenly principles that led to the destruction oh Khaenriah, the other twin's homeland, in the first place
Yes.
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@@TGPDrunknHick I know it’s basically the same but they should’ve just stick with the original, as is the case with “Lesser Lord Kusanali” the Dendro Archon. In most translation it’s Little Lord Kusanali
It's been another year matpat would you make another theory on this? There's been a tone of new content added..
The fatui have definitely gotten a lot more interesting recently, and the archon quests for sumeru are 10/10 lol