Before I watched this vid I spent a day myself figuring out a gearbox system on my own for auto transmission. Came out with a messy working setup that allows me to automate clutch (like a real car) so the clutch can go in/out quickly between each change. It also has neutral input. And timers to let the transmission steps stabilize before it allows a new change along bypasses (to avoid it getting stuck between two different levels constantly shifting like a blinker like in your video before throttling up) Also had properties inputs (which would be useful for people to know here) so you can input your wanted RPM values without going inside the circuit and just click the microcontroller in the usual editor... So I can input the speed of the clutching between each gearshift (0 makes the clutch always stay on even during gear change) and other needed values that might vary between different engine systems and vehicles... Anyhow thx for the video you made explaining gearboxes. Had more fun with the game from there on.
Great video! I just have a bit of advice for you to consider: take it slow with these tutorials. You're going SO fast when you're explaining what you're doing and you're leaving anyone trying to follow you in-game forced to constantly rewind at least 10 seconds back because you're rushing so much.
youy can slow down the video with slow mo and replay it however many times you want. keep in mind this is already a 15 minute video so like a couple hour upload time. do you really want it to be longer?
you can just tie the starter to the W/S. if W/S does not equal zero and rps is under 1 then power the starter. you can then use the same micro to start and disable clutch when battery is low.
I know it's way too late for most of you, but all you gotta do to find the micro crontroller is search the name you saved in the block menu, it saves as an actual logic block. Hope it helps...
I am trying this on a modular engine, and even if I am at zero throttle, it's still just going as hard as it can, no way to stop it. Is there no way to control the speed? cause right now, its just going as fast as it can.
This game is starting to become to complicated for me I can understand it but I feel like I am back in school again trying to learn out to do things, and like this video, I went into being lost almost right away
@@403.FORBIDDEN Yeah, Im still trying to figure out gearboxes, Im not good with math by anymeans, it was always my worst subject back in school. I can do finance but any of the other crap forget about it. so when it comes to Ratios and such, makes no sense to me. I keep watching and keep trying to make a ship with a gear box but it never works, when when trying to copy what another has done of a video I never get it right. Made a sub just the other night, small, I can sink it but it wont raise up...got the pumps everything is hooked up so idk
I'm having a bit of trouble. Instead of idling, my engine will race when I reduce throttle to 0. I've checked my settings, and they are all the same as yours, minus some slight tweaking for my gearboxes.
He made it so that the clutch will equal 0 when your throttle is below 0.20. So even if youre going 40 mph and drop the throttle to 0, the clutch will also do the same. A simple way is to add an AND block that receives two thresholds (that you desire) from the RPS and the throttle, then connect it to the Down to the Up Down Logic
Is there a way to make it smoother? Because it seems like it's very twitchy if your RPS happens to be in between ideal (for a lack of a better word...) RPS values. Feels like it wouldn't be great for the clutch mechanic in real life. I'm sure there's no wear and tear on components in Stormworks, but if we can do without having to replace parts every other trip out on sea...
The only issue I'm having with this is the engine runs at full RPM unless you have the throttle engaged. I can't seem to get around that and not sure how to fix it.
Try this In the up and down counter Make the threshold gate of clutch at 0 to. 20 connected to the 'up' node and. 20 to 0 to down counter MrNJersey cut that scene where he repaired it
@@luckyizzac This isn't correct within the scope of this game. I appreciate that in a car IRL you "let the clutch up" to get rolling, but here, the tutorial is correct, in that if the clutch is letting power through the driveshaft when there are no revs, and not letting it through when you rev up, you're going to be going nowhere. That said, I'm still having this issue and would love to see the solution to this.
I'm confused, by gearboxes only have "3:1" etc and not "1:3" so I can only transfer from 3 engine rps = 1 prop rps, which slows it down, instead of 1 engine rps = 3 prop rps
I know it's been a few days so maybe you've found the answer already, but in case: The gearbox always reduces gears in the direction of the arrows, so to get more revs from the prop you just install the gearbox backwards, so the arrow faces the engine.
So, I did something very similar using this video, except I am only using one transmission (forward and reverse). Everything works ok, except the engine idles at the rev limiter, which is literally a ticking time bomb. How do I get the throttle to stay at a reasonable level (say 3ish RPS)?
@MrNJersey Is it possible to make a gauss cannon in stormworks? - In real life it is pretty much a row of magnets in the wall of a tube (a rail could hold the projectile too) but when the projectile (a pole of normal blocks should work) has passed a magnet the magnet will shut down so it will not slow down the projectile Is this possible? If yes: could you make a video about it? I am asking because there is "no" way to make any valid weapons (I dont count Torpedos because they are not very effective) in Stormworks but this kinetic weapon should be able to make some good damage even on flying vehicles Thanks for every like to vote this comment up 👍
@@peerebeer4507 Nice to hear that but the idea is pretty old This is why i was confused there are no gauss cannons in stormworks It would be a lost opportunity
add a gearbox at the end with 1:1 or 1:-1 and just add a button to it to toggle. shouldn't need to be too complicated but you rarely reverse anyway. Hopefully I'm not too late :D
MooseNoodles Depending on how you have it set up. Then you could just have a less-than gate say “if w/s is less than 0” and hook it up to a reverse gearbox.
Thx for tutorial - I'm trying to wrap my had around this for at least a week now with a slightly different setup. My issue however is that the engines will always run on full throttle. It's the clamp value in the kill switch thats causing the issue and it's not so much of a deal whe clutch is engaged (if in water) or if any resistance is put on. But that kinda defeats the prupose especially for having engines run in an idle mode. Any tips on how to solve that ? For example if throttle input is corresponding to engine rps - let's say 0-20, idle mode should be up to 2.9 rps and at 3 the clutch kicks in.. with the setup above engines will always try to reach those 20 rps. Thx, stay healthy.
your clutch has to be more slippy then, maybe make the increments smaller? You could also try making the clutch engage based on engine RPMS as that would be way smoother I think, and that way it should never stall.
@@dIIFEO im trying to figure a system out now. If you do thesholds based on engine rpm it kinda cycles the clutch in and out which isn't ideal. You've just gotta play with the logic stuff until you have a smooth clutch
It’s very easy. Connect the engine RPS input to your engine’s RPS output, connect Throttle input to your throttle lever’s output, and connect the kill switch to a push button. Next connect the engine throttle output to your engine throttle input, connect the clutch output to your clutch and connect the gearbox 1 and 2 outputs to your respective 2 gearboxes. Set up those gearboxes just like you did when you were switching gears manually. Then just press your normal engine starter button and watch it switch your gears (relatively) smoothly and efficiently! PS. Yes, only one clutch for the pair of gearboxes.
@@joelmulderThank you Joel. I know how to connect up the microcontraoller. So, if there's one clutch, do you just connect both gearboxes in serial? or do you split the clutch with a T junction and add the gearboxes in parallel?
Rob Murray If there’s one clutch, you link the clutch output to the input of set clutch. If you’re talking about the piping, then you indeed just hook them up in serial. Hooking them up in parallel will probably also still work, but the effect will be lessened. When hooked up in parallel, you won’t be “amplifying” the previous gears. (That is if hooking them up in parallel even works properly, i haven’t tried.) The way i usually have my gearboxes is that i get the first one’s first value set to 1:1, and have the second value set to whatever works for the setup (takes some trail and error to find it, but it often ends up being 1:3 if you’ve got plenty of spare power). The second gearbox, which i link straight into the first one usually has a first value that is the highest i can set it before my performance decreases when accelerating, and again the second gear set to whatever’s appropriate. I’m sure there’s a better way to determine this, but it’s alluded me so far, so trail and error it will be. Note that the gearbox’s directions are both pointed into the engine to achieve more speed. Point them away for more torque.
@@MrNJersey Thanks man! Your videos are the best and one day I hope to bring my creations to the workshop! I would also like you to make a car ferry tutorial, I made a rough shell of a ferry and it just sinks ;( Maybe with all of your know how you could make it into something functional? Thanks ;)
the transmission system is not good. only checking for rps and throttle is bad. first of all we have to check if after the gear switch the rps will be above the goalRPS ( could be 8for economy or 15for sport)
Doesn't work! The moment the Up/Down is triggered, it jumps immediately to 1 and kills the engine, ignoring the 'Increment' value, or triggering it so fast that it doesn't matter. Even if the Clamp is set to 0.1, is still goes up to 1.0
Josip Ozimec it’s incredibly easy. Connect the engine RPS input to your engine’s RPS output, connect Throttle input to your throttle lever’s output, and connect the kill switch to a push button. Next connect the engine throttle output to your engine throttle input, connect the clutch output to your clutch and connect the gearbox 1 and 2 outputs to your respective 2 gearboxes. Set up those gearboxes just like you did when you were switching gears manually. Then just press your normal engine starter button and watch it switch your gears smoothly and efficiently!
I like your tutorials and I've learned a lot, but you're explaining stuff really fast and I can't keep up. Also, you keep using the word "obviously". I assume what you're doing is obvious to you. To me, however, as someone who doesn't understand everything yet, it is not obvious. All it does it makes me feel really stupid for not understanding.
This is the type of video that you pause like 1200 times. Thank you for this is awesome
Before I watched this vid I spent a day myself figuring out a gearbox system on my own for auto transmission. Came out with a messy working setup that allows me to automate clutch (like a real car) so the clutch can go in/out quickly between each change. It also has neutral input. And timers to let the transmission steps stabilize before it allows a new change along bypasses (to avoid it getting stuck between two different levels constantly shifting like a blinker like in your video before throttling up)
Also had properties inputs (which would be useful for people to know here) so you can input your wanted RPM values without going inside the circuit and just click the microcontroller in the usual editor... So I can input the speed of the clutching between each gearshift (0 makes the clutch always stay on even during gear change) and other needed values that might vary between different engine systems and vehicles... Anyhow thx for the video you made explaining gearboxes. Had more fun with the game from there on.
Great video! I just have a bit of advice for you to consider: take it slow with these tutorials. You're going SO fast when you're explaining what you're doing and you're leaving anyone trying to follow you in-game forced to constantly rewind at least 10 seconds back because you're rushing so much.
I don't think he understands quite how good at this game he is.
Mike Rogge Agreed.
Agreed he is good but he should slooooooooow dooooooown lol great video
Try putting playback speed on slower if you can still understand what he’s saying
youy can slow down the video with slow mo and replay it however many times you want. keep in mind this is already a 15 minute video so like a couple hour upload time. do you really want it to be longer?
Uh... yeah for a newbie you went hella fast. Can you please show us how to implemented this into the boat?
you can just tie the starter to the W/S. if W/S does not equal zero and rps is under 1 then power the starter. you can then use the same micro to start and disable clutch when battery is low.
FINALLY! I cant wait to fix my boat!
your channel blew up dude, keep up the good work!
Hey he did a Tutorial on what the on guy wanted, good job MrNJersey
I'd requested this one about 3 times now, I'm pretty pleased.
I don't even know what's going on eventhough I've recently played this game. Now I feel overwhelmed on trying to apply this knowledge in-game.
Same here
I've not managed to get this to work, did you guys?
I think there needs to a timer of sorts so it doesnt spasm out
I know it's way too late for most of you, but all you gotta do to find the micro crontroller is search the name you saved in the block menu, it saves as an actual logic block. Hope it helps...
can you post the micro controller
Did it get posted with the speedboat? I love this as it makes the control of more complex vessels far less complex.
man can shows how to connect the microcontroler to the boat ? i did what u did but i dont know how to connect the things ...
I am trying this on a modular engine, and even if I am at zero throttle, it's still just going as hard as it can, no way to stop it. Is there no way to control the speed? cause right now, its just going as fast as it can.
I instantly stall when crossing the threshold where gear 1 gets engaged
Hey, so my engine always dies when the gear change happens. What can i do to fix that ? Thanks. Its a diesel btw
im enjoying these videos
Excellent tutorial, as always. Is there a chance you could do a tutorial on variable control? As in having the co pilot take control and vice versa?
Use switchboxes, gonna assume you already know today, dont care, or just wont see this, but here it is
I dont even have this game but i still watch all the tutorials 😂😂
Me too.
The game is well worth it, when they go full release it should be a 100$ + game
Who else is watching this after the modular engines update but realizes this was made in 2019.
How do you implement the microcontrol into the boat though?
yEA, HOW do you connect it to the boat. Still lost.
You are amazing!
So how do i connect these up with the logics to the engine and my gearboxes? Your Workshop micocontroller doesnt work for me. :/
This game is starting to become to complicated for me
I can understand it but I feel like I am back in school again trying to learn out to do things, and like this video, I went into being lost almost right away
I feel the same however he is a bit fast explaining but also has other tutorials for basic logic components
I got lost when he started lol, but I watch it anyway
@@403.FORBIDDEN Yeah, Im still trying to figure out gearboxes, Im not good with math by anymeans, it was always my worst subject back in school. I can do finance but any of the other crap forget about it.
so when it comes to Ratios and such, makes no sense to me. I keep watching and keep trying to make a ship with a gear box but it never works, when when trying to copy what another has done of a video I never get it right.
Made a sub just the other night, small, I can sink it but it wont raise up...got the pumps everything is hooked up
so idk
I'm having a bit of trouble. Instead of idling, my engine will race when I reduce throttle to 0. I've checked my settings, and they are all the same as yours, minus some slight tweaking for my gearboxes.
He made it so that the clutch will equal 0 when your throttle is below 0.20. So even if youre going 40 mph and drop the throttle to 0, the clutch will also do the same.
A simple way is to add an AND block that receives two thresholds (that you desire) from the RPS and the throttle, then connect it to the Down to the Up Down Logic
Just set the playback speed to 0.5 or 0.25
Thank you very much. Long could not do clutch, but with your help did.
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nice, i was thinking about this yesterday. Question though, is the logic going through all the gears in the gearboxes or the top 2 ones?
Is there a way to make it smoother? Because it seems like it's very twitchy if your RPS happens to be in between ideal (for a lack of a better word...) RPS values. Feels like it wouldn't be great for the clutch mechanic in real life. I'm sure there's no wear and tear on components in Stormworks, but if we can do without having to replace parts every other trip out on sea...
probably try adding a capacitor inbetween the clutch inputs
is survival series microcontroller compatible with this somehow?
Not sure how to hook it up, it seems to just instantly kill my engine once I try moving forwards xD
How can you add reverse to this? I added a 3rd gearbox and made throttle -0.1 for reverse but it doesn't engage
where do i connect "inverted number (from inverted throttle)
great,but why didnt you show how you set it up?
Does this apply to land vehicles as well? And how would you use a reverse gear?
I have built this, and installed it in my boat, but for some reason I cannot get the gearbox to change gears..
The only issue I'm having with this is the engine runs at full RPM unless you have the throttle engaged. I can't seem to get around that and not sure how to fix it.
same here
Try this
In the up and down counter
Make the threshold gate of clutch at 0 to. 20 connected to the 'up' node and. 20 to 0 to down counter
MrNJersey cut that scene where he repaired it
@@luckyizzac This isn't correct within the scope of this game. I appreciate that in a car IRL you "let the clutch up" to get rolling, but here, the tutorial is correct, in that if the clutch is letting power through the driveshaft when there are no revs, and not letting it through when you rev up, you're going to be going nowhere.
That said, I'm still having this issue and would love to see the solution to this.
@@paddy5423sorry
3 years later, I see where I went wrong
I'm confused, by gearboxes only have "3:1" etc and not "1:3" so I can only transfer from 3 engine rps = 1 prop rps, which slows it down, instead of 1 engine rps = 3 prop rps
I know it's been a few days so maybe you've found the answer already, but in case: The gearbox always reduces gears in the direction of the arrows, so to get more revs from the prop you just install the gearbox backwards, so the arrow faces the engine.
Are you making a boat for the challenge?
So, I did something very similar using this video, except I am only using one transmission (forward and reverse). Everything works ok, except the engine idles at the rev limiter, which is literally a ticking time bomb. How do I get the throttle to stay at a reasonable level (say 3ish RPS)?
@MrNJersey
Is it possible to make a gauss cannon in stormworks?
- In real life it is pretty much a row of magnets in the wall of a tube (a rail could hold the projectile too) but when the projectile (a pole of normal blocks should work) has passed a magnet the magnet will shut down so it will not slow down the projectile
Is this possible?
If yes: could you make a video about it?
I am asking because there is "no" way to make any valid weapons (I dont count Torpedos because they are not very effective) in Stormworks but this kinetic weapon should be able to make some good damage even on flying vehicles
Thanks for every like to vote this comment up 👍
Slick Rick imma try to build that! Sounds like a viable weapon idea.
@@peerebeer4507 Nice to hear that but the idea is pretty old
This is why i was confused there are no gauss cannons in stormworks
It would be a lost opportunity
you might be interested in From the Depths, which is a militaristic boat building game.
what gear ratios do i use?
How are the connections done with logic for this? Specifically the Kill Switch and the Gearbox 1 and 2?
how do you add a reverse gear into this system too though?
add a gearbox at the end with 1:1 or 1:-1 and just add a button to it to toggle.
shouldn't need to be too complicated but you rarely reverse anyway.
Hopefully I'm not too late :D
I've been trying to do this in the microcontroller so its auto when u hold s but I cant get my head around it
MooseNoodles Depending on how you have it set up.
Then you could just have a less-than gate say “if w/s is less than 0” and hook it up to a reverse gearbox.
Wouldn’t even need a micro controller :)
@@Moosey.47 what about discord or steam?
Is this just for boats or can this be used with planes
Thx for tutorial - I'm trying to wrap my had around this for at least a week now with a slightly different setup. My issue however is that the engines will always run on full throttle. It's the clamp value in the kill switch thats causing the issue and it's not so much of a deal whe clutch is engaged (if in water) or if any resistance is put on. But that kinda defeats the prupose especially for having engines run in an idle mode. Any tips on how to solve that ? For example if throttle input is corresponding to engine rps - let's say 0-20, idle mode should be up to 2.9 rps and at 3 the clutch kicks in.. with the setup above engines will always try to reach those 20 rps. Thx, stay healthy.
hmm.. even with throttle setting correponding to the -1/1 values of the engines - they always want to go all in ?
Join my discord and post a link, one of the community can take a look and help
well, my engine keeps dying when i press W, hell it even drives backwards for half a second wtf happened
How do I hook it up after I'm done
how did you wire the logic to the gearboxses?
what gears ratio do i use
What are the gearbox ratios?
Have you named that tutorial ship?
Can't get this to work with the large engine in a car. Engine stalls even with 1:1 ratio and max RPS and torque spec on engine
your clutch has to be more slippy then, maybe make the increments smaller? You could also try making the clutch engage based on engine RPMS as that would be way smoother I think, and that way it should never stall.
0xsergy thanks for a solid response. Will definitely check this out. Thanks mate
@@dIIFEO im trying to figure a system out now. If you do thesholds based on engine rpm it kinda cycles the clutch in and out which isn't ideal. You've just gotta play with the logic stuff until you have a smooth clutch
my brain is overheating lmao
id like to see a transmission for stupid strong motor that send boat into space if the clutch engage too quikly lul
Please show how this is actually wired up?
I mean... Are there 2 Clutches? one per Gearbox?
It’s very easy.
Connect the engine RPS input to your engine’s RPS output, connect Throttle input to your throttle lever’s output, and connect the kill switch to a push button.
Next connect the engine throttle output to your engine throttle input, connect the clutch output to your clutch and connect the gearbox 1 and 2 outputs to your respective 2 gearboxes.
Set up those gearboxes just like you did when you were switching gears manually.
Then just press your normal engine starter button and watch it switch your gears (relatively) smoothly and efficiently!
PS. Yes, only one clutch for the pair of gearboxes.
@@joelmulderThank you Joel. I know how to connect up the microcontraoller. So, if there's one clutch, do you just connect both gearboxes in serial? or do you split the clutch with a T junction and add the gearboxes in parallel?
Rob Murray If there’s one clutch, you link the clutch output to the input of set clutch.
If you’re talking about the piping, then you indeed just hook them up in serial.
Hooking them up in parallel will probably also still work, but the effect will be lessened. When hooked up in parallel, you won’t be “amplifying” the previous gears. (That is if hooking them up in parallel even works properly, i haven’t tried.)
The way i usually have my gearboxes is that i get the first one’s first value set to 1:1, and have the second value set to whatever works for the setup (takes some trail and error to find it, but it often ends up being 1:3 if you’ve got plenty of spare power).
The second gearbox, which i link straight into the first one usually has a first value that is the highest i can set it before my performance decreases when accelerating, and again the second gear set to whatever’s appropriate.
I’m sure there’s a better way to determine this, but it’s alluded me so far, so trail and error it will be.
Note that the gearbox’s directions are both pointed into the engine to achieve more speed. Point them away for more torque.
This Throttle Clamp doesnt work
It doesnt matter if its 0.15 its turning up until the Engine bursts into Flames
i am buildin automatic transmission using only 1 cluthc an 1 gearbox an also 2 lever
i chance my mind i will use 1 lever
I do the transmission in this way:
If Speed is greater than *number*, activate the gearbox.
But not in microprocessor, because it does not work.
Why does it not work in a microprocessor?
microprocessor is the exact same as not in a microprocessor
Very nice but no build series...
How do I add a reverse gear to this?
You would need invert the throttle once is goes into negative and then a reverse gearbox. Will add reverse to mine and upload the controller
@@MrNJersey Thanks man! Your videos are the best and one day I hope to bring my creations to the workshop! I would also like you to make a car ferry tutorial, I made a rough shell of a ferry and it just sinks ;( Maybe with all of your know how you could make it into something functional? Thanks ;)
Uploaded to the WS
@@MrNJersey Okay, and I will send you the link...
@@MrNJersey Here is the link to my creation in the WS
steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1636880462
i have a challange for u: make an super stable hovercraft with altitute hold
Post this boat on workshop please
Autopilot tutoril pls am beging you!!! 😢 I try evrithing i dont use steam workshop i make my own things. Pls
He already made an auto pilot turtorial
Josip Ozimec use atan to get the radians.
I need to get this game. I'm gonna make a lot of processors and write lots of code, that's what I know best lol Stormworks PC let's gooooo
Saw this title and immediately saw the Arduino code I'd use for that flashing before my eyes
the transmission system is not good. only checking for rps and throttle is bad. first of all we have to check if after the gear switch the rps will be above the goalRPS ( could be 8for economy or 15for sport)
i have a question
DO YOU LIKE FISH
I WILL turn it into a fire boat
Doesn't work! The moment the Up/Down is triggered, it jumps immediately to 1 and kills the engine, ignoring the 'Increment' value, or triggering it so fast that it doesn't matter. Even if the Clamp is set to 0.1, is still goes up to 1.0
How did you even figure any if this out? This is like a foreign language.
Dude does a great helpful video and then just doesn't show us how to actually connect it up
Hi
Hello :)
Noo i have my 4 speed now its useless
Why u dont show how the fck to put all that in ship?!?!?!?!?
Josip Ozimec it’s incredibly easy.
Connect the engine RPS input to your engine’s RPS output, connect Throttle input to your throttle lever’s output, and connect the kill switch to a push button.
Next connect the engine throttle output to your engine throttle input, connect the clutch output to your clutch and connect the gearbox 1 and 2 outputs to your respective 2 gearboxes.
Set up those gearboxes just like you did when you were switching gears manually.
Then just press your normal engine starter button and watch it switch your gears smoothly and efficiently!
Oh ok
@@joelmulder Heres the thing How do you do that With seat throttle control Not throttle Lever
According to my crap wifi
M8, Please SLOW DOWN. you are talking doing things wayyyy to fast for me to follow.
First comment
Bit too fast for beginner
Obviously obviously obviously obviously obviously…. Not to most viewers
thanks for rushing through it and not explaining how to actually put it all together
Way to fast explained
First view also
I like your tutorials and I've learned a lot, but you're explaining stuff really fast and I can't keep up.
Also, you keep using the word "obviously". I assume what you're doing is obvious to you. To me, however, as someone who doesn't understand everything yet, it is not obvious. All it does it makes me feel really stupid for not understanding.
first
how would i add a reverse gear to this?
Hello