Of course it can be used for more than gaming. It's a computer. For an 870E board it has a low PCIe slot count and even with that being the case they still cripple the first PCIe slot.
@@laggmonstret tbh im getting sick of all the unpolished overpriced garbage all those tech companies have been releasing after the pandemic, they've gotten way too comfortable at releasing lower quality tech at higher prices.
@ It hits the M.2 slot on the CPU side as it sticks up above PCIe slot not leaving enough space for a full coverage water block. Been there done that, not happy.
I was just about to buy a custom PC from cyber power but should I wait for these new motherboards? The work I do doesn't need a graphics card at all, but is INCREDIBLY CPU heavy, so I was going to spend the GPU money on Raid0 2x 12,000Mb/s SSDs and 8000mhz RAM which might give me an extra 1-2% speed, but I genuinely need all I can get - also can't run Threadripper so I'm going with 9950X. But, I can get more power from a newer motherboard because of better traces and memory layout?
Look into the MSI one instead. The m.2 on their x670 and x870 boards don't share lanes like this one does. I know you don't use the gpu, but I believe all boards will have the first 2 share lanes and the the third pcie lane is connected to the chip set along with the m.2 4.0 ssd's.
Hello, why are only ASUS ROG STRIX X870-E GAMING motherboards with WIFI available on the market? We don't need WiFi with an antenna, and for the ASUS ROG STRIX X870-E GAMING we could do it without an antenna, (because we already have a WiFi USB stick, so we don't need an antenna) and WITH A LOWER PRICE, BECAUSE THIS BOARD IS TOO EXPENSIVE, for us who buy it Asus products and that board should have as many RED USB INPUTS (10) as possible on the REAR with USB 2, GEN2 (with 20 GBps) and not 10 GBps and Type-C THUNDERBOLT could be all four 40GBps, not that two of them are only 20 GBps each. 300 to 350 Euros would be enough for that board, in Bosnia and Herzegovina, because the standard here is low, and new boards with better chips will arrive soon, for socket AM5, so the price of this board will drop soon. Also, the processors for that board are too expensive . I hope that in the near future you will REDUCE the PRICES of items and make such a board as I wrote above (with as many RED USB PORTS as possible, preferably with 20 GBps REAR) ... Best regards
for me i only have 2x990pro 2tb, i will put one on right top and other one on the bottom, the rest i am using nas. i like the rest of the things on this board, so i bought it during black friday sell😊
Give us more PCIe slots so we have the option to use aic instead, also why are we moving to 5 Gbe ethernet when there's barely any switches? Instead of having 5 m.2 slots on a motherboard, bundle the motherboard with an ASUS hyper m.2 expansion card like they did with previous chipset motherboards
This isn't the only motherboard on the market. If it doesn't fit your needs then you can pick from the twenty other x870/x870e boards that will be available September 30th.
Does anyone knows how to fix , Every time i install Armoury crate my pc windows 10 Freeze . Any solutions ? I do format , clean install , reinstall nothing helps !!!
Man i really wanted this board but i guess i can't. What i want from the mobo is to run my gpu (4090) at full x16 lanes, at least 4x gen 4 m.2 ssds, at least 4xsata drives (hdds) or sata expansion card for my hdds. What x870e motherboard is capable of that? I will appreciate the help.
That's not a motherboard limitation. It's a CPU and chipset limitation. That's why using the the top left 2 slots slow down the GPU but not the bottom two slots. You're better off getting a PCIe NVMe expansion that can sit in the second PCIe slot.
@Madblaster6 i read that on asrock nova motherboard you can run all 5 m.2 slots without sharing the pcie lanes. So on asus rog sttix board if i run the pcie nvme expansion card on 2nd pcie slot than it wont share pcie lanes with the gpu?
Hey, with most of these boards what happens is when you install additional M.2 drives to 2nd or 3rd gen 5 slots, it will reduce the main GPU PCIE lane count from 16 to 8. Unless you want to limit the GPU, I would use only main M.2 drive slot which does not affect the GPU and then bottom ones that connect via the chipset
M.2 drives can connect directly via cpu or via chipset which then connects to the cpu. It has a more limited bandwidth but for most uses is fast enough as most people don't run multiple ssds at the same time at full speed
This is from Crosshair X870E Hero tech specs: When M.2_2 and M.2_3 are enabled simultaneously, PCIEX16_2 will be disabled. When M.2_3 are enabled, PCIEX16_1 will run x8, and PCIEX16_2 will run x4, M.2_2 will be disabled. Maybe that applied same here too, maybe.. So at least we can still running 2 Gen5 M.2 in slot 1 and 2, no?
if you use only on main slot then x16 if you use main + 1 of the extras in the top side then x8. If you want to have it x16 + multiple nvme drives, then plug in to main M.2 slot then connect the other drives to bottom slots that connect via chipset.
* M.2_2 & M.2_3 slots share bandwidth with PCIEX16(G5). When M.2_2 & M.2_3 are occupied with SSD devices, PCIEX16(G5) will run x8 only. u can use 2 gen 5 ssd while keeping the gpu running on x16 it is stated clearly on asus site and in the manual nobody pays 500$ to use only 1 gen 5 ssd u can use 2 put the ssds on m 1 and 2 dont use number 3 and dont use a second gpu
Hi, your message literally is contradicting yourself. The board had 3 Gen 5 M.2 Slots. M_2_1 connects direct to CPU, while M_2_2 and M_2_3 connect via a switch shared with main PCIE16 G5 Slot. This is not a motherboard limitation, this is limitation of the CPU. IT only has 20 PCIE Gen 5 lanes. 16 for the GPU and 4 for the main SSD. If you want to use additional 1 or 2 Gen 5 drives, then you have to sacrifice main PCIE slot lanes for it. Alternatively, using lower m.2 drives work via the chipset and will not affect main PCIE x16 slot. I recommend checking out the block diagram from ASUS, it makes it much easier to understand.
@@A2KMedia THANK U FOR THE REPLY I SO THE LIMITATION IS FROM THE CPU AND NOT THE MOTHER BOARD IT NEED 4 LANES FOR THE PORTS , 4 LANES FOR ONE GEN 5 SSD and 16 LANES FOR THE GPU , DID I UNDERSTAND CORRECTLY? it has 24 usable lanes i think
It is a bit complex and depends on the motherboard, but from the CPU side: The processor provides 28 PCIe 5.0 lanes, 4 of which are reserved for the chipset. Sixteen lanes can be allocated to either a single x16 PCIe slot or split into two x8 slots. This is where ASUS is using 8 lanes to provide 2x additional Gen 5 M.2 slots It also offers eight general-purpose lanes, with four reserved for a Gen 5 M.2 storage slot. The remaining four lanes can be used for Thunderbolt 4, USB4, or another M.2 slot, depending on the motherboard. I have not seen many motherboards that provide you two "primary" M.2 drives from the CPU as 99% users don't need super high speed drives beyond boot drive. Connecting those drives via chipset is more than enough for pretty much everyone.
@@A2KMediaHi, I ordered this motherboard yesterday along with 9800x3d, but after seeing so many comments that it shares bandwidth and msi boards dont do that, i regret it, should i return and get the msi one or is this better and ok?
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Of course it can be used for more than gaming. It's a computer. For an 870E board it has a low PCIe slot count and even with that being the case they still cripple the first PCIe slot.
Exactly my point of view lol. Either use X670E or go Intel Z890 if Arrow Lake turns out great I guess?
@laggmonstret i wouldn't exactly recommend intel 💀
@@wail2774 Lol no it turned out to be a turd, a polished one but a turd non the less!
@@laggmonstret tbh im getting sick of all the unpolished overpriced garbage all those tech companies have been releasing after the pandemic, they've gotten way too comfortable at releasing lower quality tech at higher prices.
Thanks for noting about which NVE slot to use. Since I want a 5090 and will need the 16.
I just ordered mine a couple hours ago on Amazon. I’m replacing my ASUS x670e-e due to instability.
What time of instability issues. Mine had error 00 and currently asus is diagnosing it ughh
Just replaced mine too. Kept having unstable ethernet
I'd probably choose a board more suited to a home server, maybe with a BMC, and add a PCI card for extra Nvme slots.
I go 2 slots in use using a AIC card as well as 3 nvme slots on my x570 board.
Extremely overkill for most of the people watching this video
Just Like the 4090 and 5090 that gamers keep whining about being "unaffordable".
2 PCIe slots, X16 slot will not work with GPU waterblock … no thanks!!
I'm confused... Why would the x16 slot not accept a GPU waterblock? Or do you have a water-cooled backplate in mind?
@ It hits the M.2 slot on the CPU side as it sticks up above PCIe slot not leaving enough space for a full coverage water block. Been there done that, not happy.
I was just about to buy a custom PC from cyber power but should I wait for these new motherboards?
The work I do doesn't need a graphics card at all, but is INCREDIBLY CPU heavy, so I was going to spend the GPU money on Raid0 2x 12,000Mb/s SSDs and 8000mhz RAM which might give me an extra 1-2% speed, but I genuinely need all I can get - also can't run Threadripper so I'm going with 9950X.
But, I can get more power from a newer motherboard because of better traces and memory layout?
Look into the MSI one instead. The m.2 on their x670 and x870 boards don't share lanes like this one does. I know you don't use the gpu, but I believe all boards will have the first 2 share lanes and the the third pcie lane is connected to the chip set along with the m.2 4.0 ssd's.
I love Asus software and MB layout but if the 9950x3d do not have nice overclock options this GEN ill go with Aorus ICE hell yeah .
There won't be much headroom to overclock that chip, just not worth it.
Hello, why are only ASUS ROG STRIX X870-E GAMING motherboards with WIFI available on the market?
We don't need WiFi with an antenna, and for the ASUS ROG STRIX X870-E GAMING we could do it without
an antenna, (because we already have a WiFi USB stick, so we don't need an antenna) and WITH A
LOWER PRICE, BECAUSE THIS BOARD IS TOO EXPENSIVE, for us who buy it Asus products and that board
should have as many RED USB INPUTS (10) as possible on the REAR with USB 2, GEN2 (with 20 GBps) and
not 10 GBps and Type-C THUNDERBOLT could be all four 40GBps, not that two of them are only 20 GBps each.
300 to 350 Euros would be enough for that board, in Bosnia and Herzegovina, because the standard here is low,
and new boards with better chips will arrive soon, for socket AM5, so the price of this board will drop
soon. Also, the processors for that board are too expensive . I hope that in the near future you will
REDUCE the PRICES of items and make such a board as I wrote above (with as many RED USB PORTS
as possible, preferably with 20 GBps REAR)
... Best regards
Nice board, the new AMD chips are not really that much better than the last ones and they take less power... not sure why we need the new boards.
for me i only have 2x990pro 2tb, i will put one on right top and other one on the bottom, the rest i am using nas. i like the rest of the things on this board, so i bought it during black friday sell😊
Give us more PCIe slots so we have the option to use aic instead, also why are we moving to 5 Gbe ethernet when there's barely any switches? Instead of having 5 m.2 slots on a motherboard, bundle the motherboard with an ASUS hyper m.2 expansion card like they did with previous chipset motherboards
This isn't the only motherboard on the market. If it doesn't fit your needs then you can pick from the twenty other x870/x870e boards that will be available September 30th.
Why amd is not allowing anyone to review these boards ?
Because as usual everything has a official launch date and that is September the 30. 😏 hope this helps you out 👍🏻
Are the ALC4080 audio issues solved already ..... ❓❓❓
ALC4082 on the HERO superior to this ❓❓❓
@A2K what if you install drive on the lower slot wired to the chipset, will it affect the top pcie 16x?
if you put the board in case that GPU can't remove like that?
yep you can, its same process
so a RTX3080 on PCIE 5.0 doesn't work ?
Works no problem. it is backwards compatible
Does anyone knows how to fix , Every time i install Armoury crate my pc windows 10 Freeze . Any solutions ? I do format , clean install , reinstall nothing helps !!!
Don't use it. It's not worth it.
Man i really wanted this board but i guess i can't.
What i want from the mobo is to run my gpu (4090) at full x16 lanes, at least 4x gen 4 m.2 ssds, at least 4xsata drives (hdds) or sata expansion card for my hdds.
What x870e motherboard is capable of that?
I will appreciate the help.
That's not a motherboard limitation. It's a CPU and chipset limitation. That's why using the the top left 2 slots slow down the GPU but not the bottom two slots. You're better off getting a PCIe NVMe expansion that can sit in the second PCIe slot.
@Madblaster6 i read that on asrock nova motherboard you can run all 5 m.2 slots without sharing the pcie lanes.
So on asus rog sttix board if i run the pcie nvme expansion card on 2nd pcie slot than it wont share pcie lanes with the gpu?
The board is fine for people who want 2x NMVE SSDs
AsRock Nova, Riptide and Taichi are the only ones that do not eat into the GPU lanes.
So just to double-check as long as I use the right most nvme slot and the two bottom nvme slots I won't lose pcie expansion for my graphic card?
Thats how I presumed it, did you manage to find any info stating otherwise?
I didnt understand the “using either of the pcie gen 5 part will drop down the speed of gpu.” Can someone explain that? 😅
Hey, with most of these boards what happens is when you install additional M.2 drives to 2nd or 3rd gen 5 slots, it will reduce the main GPU PCIE lane count from 16 to 8. Unless you want to limit the GPU, I would use only main M.2 drive slot which does not affect the GPU and then bottom ones that connect via the chipset
@@A2KMediawhat do you mean by "the ones that connect via the chipset"?
M.2 drives can connect directly via cpu or via chipset which then connects to the cpu. It has a more limited bandwidth but for most uses is fast enough as most people don't run multiple ssds at the same time at full speed
@@A2KMedia do you mean via the SATA connection?
So 1 and 4?
OK so 2 of those 3 Gen5 M.2 slots are basicly a waste of space and heatsink? Then pay extra for what exactly? Useless, NEXT!
This is from Crosshair X870E Hero tech specs:
When M.2_2 and M.2_3 are enabled simultaneously, PCIEX16_2 will be disabled.
When M.2_3 are enabled, PCIEX16_1 will run x8, and PCIEX16_2 will run x4, M.2_2 will be disabled.
Maybe that applied same here too, maybe..
So at least we can still running 2 Gen5 M.2 in slot 1 and 2, no?
@@laxnatullou yes
Or Putting an 5.0 in m.2 _1 Slot and an pcie 4.0 m.2 SSD in Slot m.2_4 .that would Work, too.
ASUS makes the best looking boards on the market..period
Hmm I'm confused 😕, I got 2 m.2 disks (Samsung 990 pro) where to install for best performance 🤔 without affecting the graphicscards performance ?
PCIE 5.0 on the top right is fine, then one on PCIE 4.0 at the bottom
If i use SSD on m.2_1 and m.2_2 slots, will my Graphics card will run at x8 speed?
if you use only on main slot then x16 if you use main + 1 of the extras in the top side then x8. If you want to have it x16 + multiple nvme drives, then plug in to main M.2 slot then connect the other drives to bottom slots that connect via chipset.
M.1 + m.4/m.5 - x16? M.1 + m.2 or m3 -x8?
yep. I recommend opening up the manual - it should be in their support page to check the diagram, it shows it pretty well :)
No!
A2k is erong and he keeps repeating the mistake
Hey. Thanks for your feedback. Can you kindly let me know which bit is wrong?
Ouch only two PCIe slots.
Think im going amd after my first pc has lasted me 7 years my i7 still running strong with my 1080 . Intels new stuff is ass
* M.2_2 & M.2_3 slots share bandwidth with PCIEX16(G5). When M.2_2 & M.2_3 are occupied with SSD devices, PCIEX16(G5) will run x8 only.
u can use 2 gen 5 ssd while keeping the gpu running on x16
it is stated clearly on asus site and in the manual
nobody pays 500$ to use only 1 gen 5 ssd
u can use 2
put the ssds on m 1 and 2
dont use number 3 and dont use a second gpu
Hi, your message literally is contradicting yourself. The board had 3 Gen 5 M.2 Slots. M_2_1 connects direct to CPU, while M_2_2 and M_2_3 connect via a switch shared with main PCIE16 G5 Slot. This is not a motherboard limitation, this is limitation of the CPU. IT only has 20 PCIE Gen 5 lanes. 16 for the GPU and 4 for the main SSD. If you want to use additional 1 or 2 Gen 5 drives, then you have to sacrifice main PCIE slot lanes for it. Alternatively, using lower m.2 drives work via the chipset and will not affect main PCIE x16 slot.
I recommend checking out the block diagram from ASUS, it makes it much easier to understand.
@@A2KMedia THANK U FOR THE REPLY
I SO THE LIMITATION IS FROM THE CPU AND NOT THE MOTHER BOARD
IT NEED 4 LANES FOR THE PORTS , 4 LANES FOR ONE GEN 5 SSD and 16 LANES FOR THE GPU , DID I UNDERSTAND CORRECTLY? it has 24 usable lanes i think
It is a bit complex and depends on the motherboard, but from the CPU side: The processor provides 28 PCIe 5.0 lanes, 4 of which are reserved for the chipset. Sixteen lanes can be allocated to either a single x16 PCIe slot or split into two x8 slots. This is where ASUS is using 8 lanes to provide 2x additional Gen 5 M.2 slots
It also offers eight general-purpose lanes, with four reserved for a Gen 5 M.2 storage slot. The remaining four lanes can be used for Thunderbolt 4, USB4, or another M.2 slot, depending on the motherboard.
I have not seen many motherboards that provide you two "primary" M.2 drives from the CPU as 99% users don't need super high speed drives beyond boot drive. Connecting those drives via chipset is more than enough for pretty much everyone.
Thank u😊
@@A2KMediaHi, I ordered this motherboard yesterday along with 9800x3d, but after seeing so many comments that it shares bandwidth and msi boards dont do that, i regret it, should i return and get the msi one or is this better and ok?
Couldnt buy this because of all the cheesy writing all over it. They've destroyed the ROG Strix aesthetic.
100%
But its Asus.
Awesome.
All of the stupid, cringe, slogans, written on it.
So tacky!
E
I'm not impressed.
IS ASUS Sus?
Why does ASUS ASSume that every PC gamer is twenty with the "Gamer" and "Those Who Dare" tags all over the board.....
Look at this guys facial expressions. So weird
Thanks for watching! 👍
What's wrong with you?
I hate fake smiles, hes doing good.
Its Assus so dont buy anything from them