Also, the late greats, Andy Fusco-okay, now THAT is a great alto sound-and Steve Marcus, straw boss and slayer of dragons! Mike McGovern, always beyond perfect. The trombones? Killing it-stunning. And Buddy...well, there you go. The whole rhythm section. Think ol' Buddy could drive the band? Detractors, kiss my pasty white mudflaps, Buddy was the friggin boss! Notice his comp behind the soloists, then the dynamic slam as he brings the band home. That's the shizzle, baybee. It might be as good, but it'll never be better.Thank you for posting.
Buddy was about 62 yrs.old here. He was so youthful and energetic. He is a total inspiration to any drummer alive today. He never thought about getting old and that's probably why he was so great until the day he died. We miss you Buddy.
MrDrumact - This snare here is the Ludwig SupraPhonic chrome over steel shell, the same one that Joe Morello made so popular. When Buddy was with Ludwig, he used this one and also a bronze shell snare. Contrary to what you have been told, I have never seen Buddy use a Black Beauty with his set ~
i have seen Buddy's band play this song several times here on TH-cam, and i think that this is the tightest i have heard his band perform this song to date. on another note, the Ludwig drums have a perfect sound and with the drum break towards the end, is the best i have heard this song wrapped up also. RIP Buddy and Steve.
Ah well thanks AGAIN MikeBuddy for another great post. I'm sat at my desk here looking at a TDK D-C90 (audio cassette) I recorded off the TV on to, when I was fourteen, with one of those ancient piano key cassette recorders with a built-in condenser microphone. I'd been taken by my dad to see BR & his orchestra live for the first time ever (after thirteen years of my dad playing him on vinyl most days) at the Davenport Theater, in Stockport, near Manchester here in the UK, the previous year to this. For me it's just not about Buddy Rich being 'really good at drumming', that's more the Weckls / Colaiutas of the world. Buddy Rich WAS the drums as far as I was concerned, but it was always way more than that. There was the show business legacy too. The ridiculous stories about Vaudeville when he was 18 months old, the Tommy Dorsey, Frank Sinatra, Count Basie pedigree and accompanying stories / legends / urban myths. If you've ever read the harrowing Sammy Davis Jnr biography, 'YES I CAN', you'll know there was way more to Buddy Rich than just being 'a really good drummer'. Look out for it if you haven't read it, add it to your Christmas list this year. Even Miles Davis had good words to say about him. How many other drummers have you seen as guests on TV chat shows or TV shows like this one in the past - I don't know - in the many years since we lost Buddy? Anyway, that's what you got, when turfing up at the now long-since demolished theater in Stockport, on a bleak, cold North West night. Your dad chain smoking Benson & Hedges, while driving the Austin Maxi, a terrible 1970s British car, from Warrington, an equally terrible British town (with nothing going for it apart from easy access to the M6 and M56). You got a short glimpse into another world, one that seemed a long way from the harsh daily reality of life. That's why these even shorter TV appearances were like gold dust then, why I've hung on to that C-90 for 43 years. That's a long way of saying THANKS FOR POSTING!
OMG 3:43 - 3:58 Pure trumpet heaven! Never heard a trumpet passage played in such a smooth, melodic fashion with breathtaking dynamics...the look of approval coming from Buddy says it all. Thank God this was captured on film for all to enjjoy! Mike that was phenomenally inspiring, and I'm a drumme lol. Thanks, Bob Marsz
(I don't care what decade it is, what incarnation of this band it is, I never get tired of this arrangement.) Rich, with tenor sax veteran Steve Marcus (who is brilliant, as always), knocks the socks off of a British, all-Caucasian, largely-Wasp audience, with American Music... ...which means directly (Big Band Swing and Jazz), and indirectly (American Musical Theater/Cole Porter)... African-American Music. And all of this, just about a year before he handed me my diploma, upon my graduation from the World's Most Famous Music School, in Boston.
Its so nice to hear a group of musicians play with such precision. The solos were brilliant and you could tell that the performers were enjoying every moment of it. 5*
i don't believe this.Mike McGovern you are one of my fav.players on buddys band at that time.i've just got a post from Glenn Franke Tmb.who was in that band 78-81.I loved your playing on Joy Spring.I'm putting up another vid of you with buddy's band, Montreux 78 (mellow tone) buddy's reaction while you're playing that solo says it all.Thanks man
I've been listening to Buddy do this song (and many others) for years. I've seen him play it in every type of setting, etc. In spite of this, the riffs he played in this version between 5:00 and 5:30 had me jumping off of my chair and laughing. I gave up playing drums seriously many years ago after I heard this guy. Nobody has ever been able to do what he could do with a big band.. Nobody. Ever. Period.
My drum teacher had a set of Fibes which i used to play on and they sounded great.He was sponsered by Premier,yet he loved the sound of those Fibes Drums.
This music IS alive and well and is being played by Chad Rager. I've seen him live with his 8pc band the Chad Rager Groove and he and they smoke! Someone told me he's putting together a full big band to tour with. . . that should be AWESOME!
Will do that thanks. One of my fav.Brubeck albums is we're all together again for the first time (rec.live in europe '73) with dawson extending on take five.Don't know what drums he is using but the drums & cymbols sound great.
A bit blurry but the snare looks to me to be a Ludwig Super Sensitive which is basically a Supraphonic with extended snare wire mechanism/strainer. Saw Buddy live at least 30 times between 1972-1986. First time @ Buddy's Place in NYC with the sextet. Basie and Illinois Jacquet sat in that night. Magic. I miss Buddy.
One of my favorite arrangements. I heard it live in NYC. Buddy "drives" the band in this song like Michael Schumacher drives a Formula one race car. They did this arrangement on "Burning for Buddy" but can't approach the way he does it. Does anyone remember the name of the lead sax player? He's simply great. Thanks, Rob
Dawson used his Fibes set for this recording, and as far as cymbals, not sure of his crash and hats, but I know he used to use an A Zildjian Mini Cup Ride from time to time. He was a Zildjian endorser ~
Are the twelve people who thumbed down this people who got balled out on the bus on the famous BR tapes? :-o LOVE FOR SALE is my favorite BUDDY RICH arrangement. I think its because you get to hear Buddy's enormous drive even in the role of accompanist. The energy is just SO there on each and every note (not that it wasn't typical of him, but I think this arrangement is TEXT BOOK Buddy!)
Good eye there, MB1. Yep, that photo on the album cover, originally titled "Rich in London", shows B with his Fibes chrome over fiberglass snare. Of course, since B had one, I had to get one, and I did, and I must say it was a pretty nice snare, IF you tuned it right. On that album, B's sounds great, but, on the "At the Top" video, it could sound better. Maybe in the recording, who knows. Buddy was seldom happy with his snare drums ~
One of the better versions, the tempo is a little more relaxed although not as slow as the one on Big Swing Face. Fusco, Mcgovern and Marcus all shine as well as strong ensemble playing. Wayne Pedziwater on bass, RIP great talent.
+Andrew Chaplowit ::: On the "Big Swing Face" album, Buddy got the tempo of LOVE FOR SALE exactly right, but here it feels too rushed and too much like a f**king express train... Sorry, but that's just my honest opinion, buddy.
+tunefultony johnson Based on most, if not all, of the TH-cam videos of Buddy playing this tune, including the half dozen times I saw him perform LFS live during the late 60's, 70's, and 80's, the tempo on the album was the slowest I've ever heard.
@@tunefultonyjohnson4100 ; I don't mind this tempo nearly as much as the way he played "Machine" live many times. I just love the studio recorded tempo of "Machine" from the album "The New One" (1967).
@@erzug ; I feel the tune works best at uptempo stripper rhythm, while at the same time realizing you can get away with a higher speed if performed as an instrumental. The last live Harry James version I watched on TH-cam is almost unrecognizable to me as "Love For Sale" although the tempo is, in my mind, what the tune calls for, if done instrumentally.
Nice playing, Mike. I was only 13 when this was recorded, but I remember your name on some studio album from Walter Murphy(?) Does that mean anything? Is that Coassin on lead?
I agree,The BBC guys knew what thay were doing when it came to sound & usually got it right,whereas the us broadcasts (carson)the sound does'nt come across as good IMO,also buddy sometimes did'nt use his own kit.Don't tell me Steve Marcus has left us?He was'nt that old was he?
You put your finger on it when you said "music industry". Because that's what it is, an industry. They push and push and drown us in the rubbish that is popular. Buddy does what seems humanly impossible, but it takes a lot of drumming time before you can appreciate that, and that's the problem with any instrument or art form. I have this clip recorded from the TV on a reel audio tape around 1970. Great to see it again on video after 35+ years.STILL can't get that single stroke at the end though!
happy birthday first of all, and that¨s when destiny calls no casualty... for some reason, that¨s whay we all knows him that¨s his legacy, and we keeping him alive!! excuse for my english dudes!!! to much emotions at one time!!!
Maybe it's the way they were recorded, but this isn't one of Buddy's best bands. Kinda sounds like they were just going through the motions. Buddy sounds incredible as always though.
Trumpet solo was a little outta context for my own taste, but after all, mcgovern seemed like he was holding back, nice chops my friend. And tell whoever was playing lead he shouldn't have been there.
the trumpet soloist is me! Mike McGovern..and thanks for taking note..no..pun intended!
I was noticing, kick ass trumpet solo!
Michael McGovern Still playing, Mike?
He is sadly no longer with us.
But his TH-cam account lives on...
Mike you nailed it! Very unique. When Buddy reacts like that, you know its special
My favourite tune performed by Buddy and his incredible big band , .. to witness the band live as I did several times , awesome 👍
Mike McGovern KILLING it at 3:36. Even Buddy is impressed at 3:43. RIP, Mike.
Also, the late greats, Andy Fusco-okay, now THAT is a great alto sound-and Steve Marcus, straw boss and slayer of dragons! Mike McGovern, always beyond perfect. The trombones? Killing it-stunning. And Buddy...well, there you go. The whole rhythm section. Think ol' Buddy could drive the band? Detractors, kiss my pasty white mudflaps, Buddy was the friggin boss! Notice his comp behind the soloists, then the dynamic slam as he brings the band home. That's the shizzle, baybee. It might be as good, but it'll never be better.Thank you for posting.
His intensity is unmatched. It’s like an over wound spring breaks loose on his single stroke fill. Wow!!!!!
Buddy commanded perfection which is why they’re so incredibly tight...AMAZING!
Every time I see a big band it reassures me that Big Band is the best music genre out there.
I swear, Buddy is bionic with those single strokes ...... damn!
Buddy was about 62 yrs.old here. He was so youthful and energetic. He is a total inspiration to any drummer alive today. He never thought about getting old and that's probably why he was so great until the day he died. We miss you Buddy.
and a asshole
Great performance. Gotta love when the sound engineers get it right.
MrDrumact - This snare here is the Ludwig SupraPhonic chrome over steel shell, the same one that Joe Morello made so popular.
When Buddy was with Ludwig, he used this one and also a bronze shell snare.
Contrary to what you have been told, I have never seen Buddy use a Black Beauty with his set ~
Very spirited version! Notice Buddy giving props to trumper player, who wailed! Never seen Buddy impressed like that!
i have seen Buddy's band play this song several times here on TH-cam, and i think that this is the tightest i have heard his band perform this song to date.
on another note, the Ludwig drums have a perfect sound and with the drum break towards the end, is the best i have heard this song wrapped up also.
RIP Buddy and Steve.
Ah well thanks AGAIN MikeBuddy for another great post.
I'm sat at my desk here looking at a TDK D-C90 (audio cassette) I recorded off the TV on to, when I was fourteen, with one of those ancient piano key cassette recorders with a built-in condenser microphone.
I'd been taken by my dad to see BR & his orchestra live for the first time ever (after thirteen years of my dad playing him on vinyl most days) at the Davenport Theater, in Stockport, near Manchester here in the UK, the previous year to this.
For me it's just not about Buddy Rich being 'really good at drumming', that's more the Weckls / Colaiutas of the world. Buddy Rich WAS the drums as far as I was concerned, but it was always way more than that.
There was the show business legacy too. The ridiculous stories about Vaudeville when he was 18 months old, the Tommy Dorsey, Frank Sinatra, Count Basie pedigree and accompanying stories / legends / urban myths.
If you've ever read the harrowing Sammy Davis Jnr biography, 'YES I CAN', you'll know there was way more to Buddy Rich than just being 'a really good drummer'. Look out for it if you haven't read it, add it to your Christmas list this year. Even Miles Davis had good words to say about him. How many other drummers have you seen as guests on TV chat shows or TV shows like this one in the past - I don't know - in the many years since we lost Buddy?
Anyway, that's what you got, when turfing up at the now long-since demolished theater in Stockport, on a bleak, cold North West night. Your dad chain smoking Benson & Hedges, while driving the Austin Maxi, a terrible 1970s British car, from Warrington, an equally terrible British town (with nothing going for it apart from easy access to the M6 and M56).
You got a short glimpse into another world, one that seemed a long way from the harsh daily reality of life.
That's why these even shorter TV appearances were like gold dust then, why I've hung on to that C-90 for 43 years.
That's a long way of saying THANKS FOR POSTING!
OMG 3:43 - 3:58 Pure trumpet heaven! Never heard a trumpet passage played in such a smooth, melodic fashion with breathtaking dynamics...the look of approval coming from Buddy says it all. Thank God this was captured on film for all to enjjoy! Mike that was phenomenally inspiring, and I'm a drumme lol. Thanks, Bob Marsz
Mike McGovern, one of B's better trumpet soloists, who sadly died this year.
Ya man, that was great to see and hear.
All wonderful
My all time favourite BR arrangement
The funnest band to ever watch!!!
(I don't care what decade it is, what incarnation of this band it is, I never get tired of this arrangement.)
Rich, with tenor sax veteran Steve Marcus (who is brilliant, as always), knocks the socks off of a British, all-Caucasian, largely-Wasp audience, with American Music...
...which means directly (Big Band Swing and Jazz), and indirectly (American Musical Theater/Cole Porter)...
African-American Music.
And all of this, just about a year before he handed me my diploma, upon my graduation from the World's Most Famous Music School, in Boston.
now this is a rare video clip!
i remember the val donican show from the 70s
but can't remember seeing this...thanks mike
Its so nice to hear a group of musicians play with such precision. The solos were brilliant and you could tell that the performers were enjoying every moment of it. 5*
Woo love it!
i don't believe this.Mike McGovern you are one of my fav.players on buddys band at that time.i've just got a post from Glenn Franke Tmb.who was in that band 78-81.I loved your playing on Joy Spring.I'm putting up another vid of you with buddy's band, Montreux 78 (mellow tone) buddy's reaction while you're playing that solo says it all.Thanks man
No comment. Best.
Great! Great! Great! Ferocious playing. Thanks for posting this.
Very nice.
I've been listening to Buddy do this song (and many others) for years. I've seen him play it in every type of setting, etc. In spite of this, the riffs he played in this version between 5:00 and 5:30 had me jumping off of my chair and laughing. I gave up playing drums seriously many years ago after I heard this guy. Nobody has ever been able to do what he could do with a big band.. Nobody. Ever. Period.
Bluesman549 that roll feel is fucking incredible. he's got such a style that is just un matched by anyone today
If you're not first, you're last,......... is a bad way of thinking.
I bet those Ronnie Scott's shows were amazing.
My drum teacher had a set of Fibes which i used to play on and they sounded great.He was sponsered by Premier,yet he loved the sound of those Fibes Drums.
I LOVE BUDDY'S MUSIC!!!!!
trumpet solo magic
At the end BUDDY playes the Best drive/swing.💪🥁⭐🇺🇲
that was awesome! As good as he gets!
Buddy sure had some wild hair piece rugs
That trumpet solo wowww!!!
This music IS alive and well and is being played by Chad Rager. I've seen him live with his 8pc band the Chad Rager Groove and he and they smoke!
Someone told me he's putting together a full big band to tour with. . . that should be AWESOME!
I just love what he always do at 5:21
I just had an audition at Kean University and Prof. Fusco loved me =].
very cool-original and imaginative!
Wish I could have just hung out with Buddy once.
HOT .... all the way down the line!
thats an awesome sax
Wooooo!!!!
Happy Birthday Dude!
Insane perfection
The sweater is what gives him his drumming powers...
Will do that thanks.
One of my fav.Brubeck albums is we're all together again for the first time (rec.live in europe '73) with dawson extending on take five.Don't know what drums he is using but the drums & cymbols sound great.
A bit blurry but the snare looks to me to be a Ludwig Super Sensitive which is basically a Supraphonic with extended snare wire mechanism/strainer. Saw Buddy live at least 30 times between 1972-1986. First time @ Buddy's Place in NYC with the sextet. Basie and Illinois Jacquet sat in that night. Magic. I miss Buddy.
One of my favorite arrangements. I heard it live in NYC. Buddy "drives" the band in this song like Michael Schumacher drives a Formula one race car. They did this arrangement on "Burning for Buddy" but can't approach the way he does it. Does anyone remember the name of the lead sax player? He's simply great. Thanks, Rob
Dawson used his Fibes set for this recording, and as far as cymbals, not sure of his crash and hats, but I know he used to use an A Zildjian Mini Cup Ride from time to time.
He was a Zildjian endorser ~
he's great!
The ever solid Steve Marcus.
That was fast!
AWESOME DRUMMER
yeah Steve left us in '05 i do believe. he was 66 if memory serves. wikipedia is where i saw it.
that was the master.
Let's nor forget about the Bass Player. I am really hearing some serious grooves. I think he's awesome at that Bass.
we're playing for our jazz abnd concert
love the hi-hat fill leading into Steve's solo at 4:11 to 4:13 .
Are the twelve people who thumbed down this people who got balled out on the bus on the famous BR tapes? :-o LOVE FOR SALE is my favorite BUDDY RICH arrangement. I think its because you get to hear Buddy's enormous drive even in the role of accompanist. The energy is just SO there on each and every note (not that it wasn't typical of him, but I think this arrangement is TEXT BOOK Buddy!)
That guy has got some balls to lean on Buddy's drums!
this was uploaded on my birthday ;D
lol thanks for the vid i really enjoyed it
buddy is just the best!
Oh my God!
Good eye there, MB1. Yep, that photo on the album cover, originally titled "Rich in London", shows B with his Fibes chrome over fiberglass snare.
Of course, since B had one, I had to get one, and I did, and I must say it was a pretty nice snare, IF you tuned it right. On that album, B's sounds great, but, on the "At the Top" video, it could sound better. Maybe in the recording, who knows.
Buddy was seldom happy with his snare drums ~
@Tiahur76 It's still out there. Big band is alive and well. I play in an 18 piece big band. It is the most fun I have ever had as a drummer.
5:14!!!!!! Holy Moly
the best 5 sec of what it means to be buddy rich
One of the better versions, the tempo is a little more relaxed although not as slow as the one on Big Swing Face.
Fusco, Mcgovern and Marcus all shine as well as strong ensemble playing.
Wayne Pedziwater on bass, RIP great talent.
+Andrew Chaplowit ::: On the "Big Swing Face" album, Buddy got the tempo of LOVE FOR SALE exactly right, but here it feels too rushed and too much like a f**king express train... Sorry, but that's just my honest opinion, buddy.
+tunefultony johnson Based on most, if not all, of the TH-cam videos of Buddy playing this tune, including the half dozen times I saw him perform LFS live during the late 60's, 70's, and 80's, the tempo on the album was the slowest I've ever heard.
@@tunefultonyjohnson4100 ; I don't mind this tempo nearly as much as the way he played "Machine" live many times.
I just love the studio recorded tempo of "Machine" from the album "The New One" (1967).
@@erzug ; I feel the tune works best at uptempo stripper rhythm, while at the same time realizing you can get away with a higher speed if performed as an instrumental.
The last live Harry James version I watched on TH-cam is almost unrecognizable to me as "Love For Sale" although the tempo is, in my mind, what the tune calls for, if done instrumentally.
This is one of my favorite charts from BR's band and I believe it's best incarnation was actually in the 60s, no disrespect to this fine reiteration.
Lead Alto..Chuck Wilson...Irst Tenor..Steve Marcus...Andy Fusco, Gary Pribeck, Turk Mauro
They were definitely holding something back..
at 5:13 what the hell is that?? It's like he switched on a blender - perfect precision!
Mike your trupet solo is GREAT!!!!!!! Hey how i reach James Martin??
Thanks
@moscaw
hi i'm the trumpet soloist
mike m
Nice playing, Mike. I was only 13 when this was recorded, but I remember your name on some studio album from Walter Murphy(?) Does that mean anything? Is that Coassin on lead?
I agree,The BBC guys knew what thay were doing when it came to sound & usually got it right,whereas the us broadcasts (carson)the sound does'nt come across as good IMO,also buddy sometimes did'nt use his own kit.Don't tell me Steve Marcus has left us?He was'nt that old was he?
5:14 DAM!!!!!
You put your finger on it when you said "music industry". Because that's what it is, an industry. They push and push and drown us in the rubbish that is popular. Buddy does what seems humanly impossible, but it takes a lot of drumming time before you can appreciate that, and that's the problem with any instrument or art form. I have this clip recorded from the TV on a reel audio tape around 1970. Great to see it again on video after 35+ years.STILL can't get that single stroke at the end though!
Mike Mc which one are you? great great music for sure...
Wayne on bass Mike on jazz tpt Steve Marcus on tenor RIP
Ludwig Drums and Zildjian cymbals
He reverted back to his normal, long time Slingerland drums ,later
Dawson was using Fibes at that time with Brubeck.
Back when Steve Marcus and Stan Mark on Maynard's band were vying for biggest hair.
lol ty man :P
MarkR1957
It looks like buddy is using a Fibes crome snare on the cover of the double album 'live at ronnie scotts' circa 1972would i be correct ?
No draging or rushing.
happy birthday first of all, and that¨s when destiny calls no casualty... for some reason, that¨s whay we all knows him that¨s his legacy, and we keeping him alive!! excuse for my english dudes!!! to much emotions at one time!!!
walter..i'm the trumpet soloist....
this is one of their tightest versions of it. it's a bit more up tempo than usual and the bass player is on the ball.
@arcwelder9999
yes, yes he does lol
MrDrumcat, Buddy Rich normally used Ludwig Black Beauty snares, and sometimes he used Slingerland Radio King snares.
Maybe it's the way they were recorded, but this isn't one of Buddy's best bands. Kinda sounds like they were just going through the motions. Buddy sounds incredible as always though.
5:14 whaa?
haha 0:44 Buddy: Yes, i know!, i kick your ass.. yes I'm the best i know. ;P
check out mike pritchett drum solo you tube
このラブフォウセールは、演奏するバンドが多いですね。
Trumpet solo was a little outta context for my own taste, but after all, mcgovern seemed like he was holding back, nice chops my friend. And tell whoever was playing lead he shouldn't have been there.
If that was a toupee he was wearing, he needed to get his money back.
Buddy worked them hard but he got the best out of them, but not my favorit ''love for sale'' by BD
Steve Markus /Buddy Rich yuu CAN find better one. LOVE FOR SALE with swing and drive. 👏👏