Why the Sannin VS Admirals IS NOT CLOSE !
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Before y'all say water jutsu remember akoiji can freeze it 💀
Yoo I'm glad ro see your videos they are really entertaining especially your streams when you debunk the calc speed stacking of one piece with steinexos is hilarious
Just like expected, low-mid diff for admirals + you didn't mention Kizaru's ability to accelerate his travel and combat speed in his light form recent chapters against Luffy which drastically increase his speed up to ftl+ or potentioally to MFTL if we assume so he was accelerating at light speed.
i say mftl because he blitz snake man Luffy who can keep up with ftl+ characters such in base
Damn you with calc stacking, I don't know what you find inconsistent with it cause not only does it work well in one piece but ichigo and asta speed scaling is also very consistent and I've seen it being used. I think mftl+ one piece is consistent.
Idk maybe the fact that you can scale characters speed infinitely upwards and no it “dosent work well in one piece” that’s just you being bias and dumb
W video fr tho
question : would madara tanking the 10 tails cataclysm in susanoo form scale its durability to it? if so wouldnt tsunade scale to that ap as she cracked the susanoo?
Crack it ain't a good feat for this matchup
@@masonmcfadden4886 why not? Its still more damage than what the 10 tails cataclysm did, which if allowed would put the sanin way higher than the admirals in terms of ap
@@udayphilip5329 we dont know if they are caparable ones as the ten tails cataclysim causes natraul distaers that's its power but is also unfocused (making its hits weaker ) meanwhile tsunade was a huge power in a single point thus we cant say they scale to each other due to the unknown power of the ten tails cataclysms natural disasters
Power Scaling BACK at it again...WITH A VENGEANCE 😵💫
My bro SB is vengeance
Even thru verse equalization, DF’s aren’t similar enough to jutsu to just say that they’re the same. Haki is somewhat similar to chakra, but again, not exactly close. To equalize the 2 would be to give abilities to characters that they wouldn’t normally have in the first place. The way I see it, the only way to stop a logia in cross verse battles are abilities that deactivate other abilities, sealing abilities, or abilities that allow you to interact with the soul/tangible spirit of something. So by that it would just be fair to say that in this way of equalization, we’d remove the need for genjutsus to disrupt chakra flow, and general interactions with enemy chakra. Still though, kizaru is faster, Akainu is stronger, kuzan is middle of the road, but has more utility.
What is bfr? Also yea i can see the sannin besting the admirals. Aokiji done first, Kizaru would be out next, sakazuki im not too sure.
Battle field removal
Why is this even a comparison, the sannin were gassed up to be legendary figures in the ninja world but turned out to be the lamest, middle of the pack characters around
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🤡, you obviously dont read the novel and current orochimaru is a beast
Current Orochimaru is immortal that has all chakra natures and all jutsu.
@@tjrose9830 I feel like people hate the sannins. the poll would be sannins vs inochikacho and people would find ways to shit on them
@@orochimarupr It's because the sannin have been a joke lately. Jiraiya is already long dead, Orochimaru just became a snake daddy. And tsunade isn't hokage anymore and barely gets screen time.
As a naruto fan
+respect🫡
The sanin would be a second rate pirate crew
Orochimaru Re-animation Jutsu us enough to wore each admiral out...
Don't care who wins, as long I see one piece being above town lvl then I am good👌.
The Edo Kage Orochimaru are improved during the war arc and he himself knows all 5 chakra natures. Gamabuta scales to the one tails and Raikage fights the 8 tails to a stalemate. Tsunade in the moment where she is confirmed slower than the Raikage she is also confirmed stronger. This also adds consistency of the Sanin being country level. Tsunade is also still able to react to and move with the Raikage without any precognition even if she’s slower. Also the Minato and Tobirama summonings would be faster than the Raikage.
Wasn’t using edo orochimaru
Gamabunta was going to get 2 shot by a non full power shukakus wind style
Don’t know why the raikage fighting the 8 tails matters the 8 tails isn’t country level
Don’t know why tsunade being stronger than raikage matters he wasn’t brought up in the video except to compare speed
How does the raikage stalemating the 8 tails make him country level the 8 tails is not country level
Tsunade never moves with the V1 cloak raikage nor does she ever react to him idk where you’re getting this from also dosent make her combat speed on par with the Raikage’s
Cool irrelevant I clearly wasn’t using war arc Oro
@@sbthesage2100 The 8 tails is country level. Gamabuta was keeping up the one tails. You directly mentioned Orochimaru’s Edo summonings in the video. You only used the Raikage to discredit Tsunade’s speed. That’s why I brought up how his clashes with biju validates country level strength. All the kage were literally comboing with each other the whole time. You never said you weren’t using war arc Orochimaru. It came across like you were just leaving out details. You could mentioned you are only using the Tsunade retrieval arc Sanin scaling vs current arc Admirals.
@@onesmart229 man don't argue with him, you gonna ruine your day(And we all know in different verse fight if we assume haki and chakra, becoz almost every person has in there respective verse. Sannin gonna clap there chick....
@@onesmart229 8 tail without jinjuriki is country level ? could you tell me based on what ?
orochimaru had already prep on creating those weaker version of edo , while he doesnt have prep on those stronger , so those weaker version he can sumon when ever he want while he didnt make prep to be able to summon those stronger one when ever he want
Sannin, not Sanin.
The Jirōbō, Sakon/Ukon, and Senjutsu Fire Release statements are actually tens/dozens of times, not just ten times (が数十倍), VIZ mistranslated it.
Jūgo's kekkei genkai is more accurately described as Sage Transformation.
Tsunade actually already has super-human strength without chakra enhanced strength. Chakra control just pushes it to even further extremes.
The shown Earth Swamp for Jiraiya was actually considered rather tiny by his standards. It was supposed to be much larger if he were not drugged.
Jiraiya's hair shield is actually a separate jutsu called Needle Jizō.
The mountain toad that Itachi burned out of is also known for its fire resistance since it typically breaths fire; Itachi being able to burn through it is noted to be a sign of Amaterasu's potency.
Shima is the one who cast the Fire Release, not Jiraiya. Jiraiya was the one amplifying it, not the other way around.
Frog Call (Song) is not a genjutsu, that is the disruptive sound jutsu the Nidaisengama used on the Chikushōdō summons; the genjutsu is the Toad Confrontation Chant. Also worth noting that the song itself disrupts space when used.
Kakashi was also able to intercept Itachi's light speed Fang Bullet which would mean the Sannin scale from that. The Double Lariat is likewise not A's full speed since it refers to his speed alongside B, wherein the two have to match speed for the Double Lariat to connect properly. Ergo, A's full speed is faster than light so others being light-speed would not conflict. It would also make them much faster than the admirals in Sage Mode and the like.
Most of this is really irrelevant if I’m being honest but let me touch on some things
Kakashi never intercepted Itachi’s water bullet he blocks it with his water wall idk how you’re getting that his combat speed is anywhere near as fast as the water wall and you’d have 0 way of proving it even if I did concede the water bullets were actually light speed
Who cares if the double lariat is A’s full speed you can’t quantify how much faster he is in V2 nor did I ever cap him at light speed
Sage mode is never stated to boost speed yet another piece of information you’ve either misinterpreted or taken out of context
A light-speed attack was shot at him and he could make the seals and put up a Water Wall before it landed.
The Double Lariat is not A's full speed, ergo everyone slower than him is not capped at sub-light speed.
Sage Mode increases all physical capabilities, including taijutsu, which is noted in Hyō no Sho, page 51 to be defined by strength and speed. Rin no Sho more broadly defines superhuman feats due to chakra amplification, including speed, which Sage Mode, again, would amplify. Naruto also describes Sage Mode as faster before striking Sandaime Raikage with his Rasengan.
They can't really hurt them so GG
The raikage statement is a mistranslation
You don’t know Japanese so how would you know and why do you think what you say has credence if you don’t
@@sbthesage2100 why are you assuming I don't?
when I remember guren covers hinata by crystal but hinata covers her body with her chakra too thats why her internal didn't turn into crystal so I don't see aokiji can cover sanin into ice cause chakra can't be harden and sanin are great at chakra control, and plus sage mode alone can react to 3rd raikage speed which is light speed that's why jiraya can match at kizaru's speed which is faster than other two admirals
thats filler content thus we dont use it in vs debate unless its confirmed canon by appearing in the canon series or by author confermation
@@asuraofwrath 3 tails is in that arc, so 3 tails is non canon too?
@@hellostupid6278 if you read my comment i said we do not use filler in vs debates unless it happens in canon or by author confirmation meaning yes the three tails is canon because it is mentioned in canon and we see it in canon
@@asuraofwrath they said hagoromo back story was filler and hagoromo himself too but hagoromo has the biggest role in the series so how hagoromo became filler character just like guren has the biggest role in that arc too to tame and captured 3tails it doesn't matter if the author didn't said it's filler or not cause guren in that arc is just like hagoromo that has the biggest role
@@hellostupid6278 hagormo isnt a filler character he first appears in chapter 572 of the naruto manga I'm not sure if his backstory was filler but that isn't here nor there as hagormo himself is canon
I do agree with you on most of it but is dragon all three of them in a genjutsu it over
this is a big win-win for the sanin
Sage frog sound genjutsu + elemental Sealing
Now we got Boruto bullshit Time travel that is canon like wth
Jiraiya has AP and feats fighting a otsutsuki
more likly Boruto Power Creep many character to otsutsuki clan
Edit: Jiraiya and Orichimaru using sage charka
Touching Sage Charka will be fatal to the admirals cuz they don't have charka network basically turning them to stone in contact
The goat has returned and Admirals curb stomp
Sannin at best caps at country , kizaru alone is multi continental mid balled , admirals stomp
Let’s be real. I’m been a long time mid piece fan. And I’ve read the manga multiple times as I own a few volumes. But I have to say the Sannin stomp. They just more efficient and got better hax.
Must of the statements in mid piece are pure exaggeration
You've read the manga several times 🙄 🤣 and you still saying sanin stomps?? I think you should read with your eyes opened😅 just one admiral anyone can solo the sanin
Let's be real, only top tiers in Naruto have relativistic feats, while mid tiers in One Piece can get to lightspeed
This was never a debate.
Sannin stomp.
And they didn't show Half of their true Power
@@SalmanulFarisi101 they didn't show half of their true power 🙄 the admirals has not even actually fought going all out, just one admiral feel free to choose any admiral you want bro that admiral will solo the sanins combined tf are you in? Is it aokiji?😂 Or akainu? Or kizaru that none of them xan catch?🤣 Before they do hand sign kizaru would have destroyed them easily 😆
@@imtunchi facts these naruto scalers try to say they one piece fans and yet don't know shit about it but what is shown in TH-cam 😂
Boruto era orochimaru solo
Didn't you give Sanji FTL+?
I’m allowed to change opinions
@sbthesage2100 So, that's a yes... I was just verifying. Absolutely nothing wrong with changing your stance. It was odd to hear that scaling WITHOUT knowing that you changed it.
water justsu is useless because even inside the water devil fruit user can use his powers as we were shown in arlong arc and none of the admirals have fought seriously so we dont even no ehat they a re capable of
The entire sannin speed segment was an absolute joke. You took one statement and put it above multiple pieces of evidence that suggest otherwise. Feats > statements, and the feats show that light speed isnt all that rare in naruto. And you didnt even get the raikages speed correct to boot, relegating him to light speed when hes demonstrably above
Like what I have no obligation to go over every single light speed Naruto argument that I don’t agree with but ig I will just have to from now on to avoid ridiculous comments like this 😭
@@sbthesage2100 so instead of actually bothering to defend your stance, you elect to just not acknowledge anything that directly contradicts your statements? Okay.
@@Farenhyte- wtf are you talking about buddy 💀 why would I spend the entire video debunking arguments I don’t agree with when I’m trying to present scales I do agree with and already scripted, de rails the entire video and for what so irrational people like you can be appeased About feats you clearly don’t understand as it pertains to proper power scaling, you don’t see VSBW or any other site do shit like that it’s what threads and short videos are for
@@Farenhyte- also what directly contradicts my statements oh yeah absolutely nothing bc for their to be any contradicting evidence against what I said said evidence would have to be presented and reviewed before a conclusion can be given on weather anything I said was contradictory or not and last time I checked u haven’t present anything other than babble
@@sbthesage2100 if youre going to make ridiculous claims like the sannin only scaling vaguely above base kakashi to sub relativistic, youre going to need to backup that downplay. The sannin being light speed or above is far from inconsistent. There are plenty of other lightspeed feats from characters slower than the raikage, so if you really want to take his "im the fastest" statement at face value, then theres still evidence for LS or faster sannin. Unless you think characters like darui and itachis casual water ninjutsu are faster
V2 A scales way above light speed as he was fighting and perception blitzing sasuke. Madara said tsunade was slower than a lightened v2 a but she was still relevant as they were fighting together and attacking together Lightened Ay > base V2 Ay tsunade < Lightened ay In speed… tsunade = V2 Ay
Tsunade > lightspeed
All the sannin are above ls
When were they ever fighting together in anyway that suggest they’re as fast as each other , ppl like to reach and say madara was basically saying they’re relative when that’s simply not the case ay may be relative to Tsuande in strength but Tsuande is not relative to him in speed and there’s not a single thing in the manga that suggests she is
@@sbthesage2100 during the war bozo. If tsunade was able to fight with a lightened A and sync up attacks she has to be relative. Which makes her faster or on par with V2 who was faster than kcm naruto until her got a mental amp
With akainu being faster and having higher AP plus a wide range of AOE he solos and for and bs "water" attacks please remember you have to be partially submerged for it to take effect plus we've been shown that you can deflect incoming water via luffy and zoro attacks in water 7
4:06 what about Stamina?
Stamina is irrelevant in crossverse unless characters are equal
@@sbthesage2100 ah okay
Sanin: Experience, IQ, Abilities, & Hax
OG Admirals: BIQ, AP, Speed, (Reaction, Travel, & Combat), DC, Power, & Range.
add experience to sanin
@@archflamingo9156 Yes I forgot that.
I don't know about any hack that the Sannin has that is above future sight.
It negs just about every hax they have because they'd always be a few steps ahead of them and with the clear speed advantage, hax isn't a factor here.
If you want it that way though, you could just include hax resistance and give that to the Admirals.
Strength , Speed , Power , Ap , DC goes to Sannin
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Admirals slam and its not close
Why would water be even an issue with Aokiji there. Anyway the would need to be submerged in order for it to effect the admirals.
I forgot Aokiji can freeze water but it dosent matter that much it’d just mean one admiral can’t be beat with water equal stats
No admiral can be beat with water. You guys exaggerate the water trope when DF users have been fighting on oceans and survive by simply avoiding the water. Water is not a challenge and bringing it into the conversation is cringe@@sbthesage2100
Not only him... Kizaru can become photons and reflect on the water, it might even amp his ability to create clones.
Akainu's Magma is so hot that swords melt away when their a couple inches away from him, and he can "burn" fire.
Yeah, water is getting vaporized before they even reach him.
And they all have been implied to have Future sight, so even if they couldn't handle the water jutsu, they'd just side step that sh*t with superior movement speed anyway.
Naruto stomps the entire One Piece, One Punch man, and HXH universes 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Cope
Any admiral solos the sannin and arguably the verse, they easily outscale characters like current Luffy and Kaido who easily outscale old sick Whitebeard who easily outscales the entire Naruto verse (- Boruto two blue vortex it has the potential to be higher) and in terms of speed the difference is even bigger, Kizaru even in travel speed is ftl since we literally see him moving at faster than light speeds in egghead, with observation haki and future sight him and the other 2 admirals who both outscale him are easily ftl if not higher just off of that, then there’s also the calc stacking method which I’ve yet to see debunked properly, most of the time it’s just people saying it’s not valid due to inflated numbers, that’s like saying you can’t make a million dollars without committing a crime, a high result doesn’t make it invalid
No way you said Admiral>Luffy>whitebeard
It's literally the other way around. Current akainu is.much stronger than "admiral tier" he is talking about the marineford admirals.
And like always the trolls never use prime orochimaru which is war arc and after, orochimaru also has edo hokages
Because at that point your not scaling the 3 sanin or orchimaru your scaling the edo hokage
Admirals stomp hard 💪
literally cap. the lariat is light speed. but there are feats for kakashi and other weaker ninja being faster than light. Kakashi being significantly slower and weaker. also basic genjutsu wins easy
Katsuyu negs Kizaru light abilities as Katsuyu herself said she can survive being shredded by the speed of light and katsuyu cannot be damaged by physical attacks. Tsunade is relative in speed to V2 Ay, Madara already saw Lightened v2 Ay's speed and strength and he directly compared Tsunade's strength and speed to his. Katsuyu also just puts Aokiji out of the battle with her acid, Akainu's magma get's cooled by water style, acid or powerful wind style. Tsunade can further amp her teammates elemental jutsus by having katsuyu split and sit on their shoulders, to provide healing and chakra amp. She can also amp the summons, elemental ninjutsu's as well.
Cope already bro. Kizaru solos the fodder Sanins all together. None of them has the same strength, speed or durability of Kizaru and none of them can touch him
Chakra will be able to touch him just like raw chakra interacts with elements in the naruto verse. So as long as the sannin coat their attacks in chakra they can hit and dmg any of the admirals.@mennnn972
@@OkairMcLaren wtf is u on.
Coat their body with chakra? Are you watching naruto: the last airbender. You legit making up Abilities now that you know that Logias in one piece are completely invincible to naruto characters. The only way to hit them is if you have Haki which no one in naruto has, 2nd is if u have element that counters theirs which they dont have for Kizaru, Akainu and Kuzan.
.... Coating your body with chakra is an academy lvl technique.... Its how the ninjas are able to walk on water, climb up trees/walls etc. Its how they can interact with elements of the world and use them so why wouldn't it work just the same here when all three admirals are literally elements. Tsunade literally shrouded herself in chakra to hit madara's pressurized and concentrated firestyle jutsu in the war arc. @mennnn972
@@OkairMcLaren That still does not give them the permission to bypass the Logia intangiblety. Only thing can harm is Haki which naruto characters dont have.
You always know it’s a One Piece Stan when they make a whole video about Logia’s and don’t mention water once😂🤦🏽♂️
Let alone, elemental weakness’, 0 BIQ feats, 0 CQC skill, vulnerability to mind hax, ect.
But I did mention water 💀
Yeah, the element Aokiji can freeze inatantly
Okay forgive me you did technically mention it but that’s it’s. Saying it’s “a possible win con” and “could be an issue” and breezing by it as if it isn’t the definitive major weakness of every DF eater. That’s like looking at Jon Jones vs Bruce Lee and just saying “the weight may be an advantage” as if it’s not potentially the most important factor. Orochimaru and Jiraiya would spam water at Akainu and they’re way smarter so they’ll quickly discover that they are all weak to it.
@@Haikami it’s a no limits fallacy to assume he can do that to Tobiramas water when he’s only been shown to freeze a few miles worth of basic water. Tobirama is stated to be able to create an ocean so even if he’s at 1% power… 1% of the ocean is still far more than any of Aokijis feats, and that’s chakra enhanced, telekinetically controlled water with killing intent.
@@B00MR0ASt3D Yeah saying Aokiji who has frozen hundreds of miles of water and island sized waves can freeze Tobirama's jutsus is a no limits fallacy, but saying Tobirama can create 1% of the ocean when he hasn't done anything even remotely close to that isn't lmao the irony. The real no limits fallacy is you acting like his water is special
This is not even close bro. The sannin cannot touch the admirals and they don't have any of their elemental's weaknesses. Kizaru is enough to solo the sannin lmao.
Edit: Yall the sannin having water release isn't stopping the fact that they're getting stomped 9/10.
They all have water release.
@@teddyama1079 It's not sea water bro 😭
@@ianrowen8560 where was it stated it had to be sea water?
@@teddyama1079 In one piece, luffy isn't effected by normal water splashing on him. Otherwise the fight with him and crocodile on alabasta would've given him a huge disadvantage. This proves that water doesn't effect a DF user unless it comes from the sea.
@@teddyama1079 It has to be seawater. Water is getting vaped or iced. Preskip SHs blew a hole in a tsunami with enough force to create a pathway for a whole train to go through without water even touching it. Water can be blown away with physical force too.
Orochimaru solos all three of them clearly you people that compare naruto characters to others love to use outdated information, Orochimaru, posses better healing than Tsunade & Hashirama combined, is literally made up of 100% white zetsu and hashirama cells, and Gave him self Shikotsumyaku, you know the thing that Kaguya does with her bones? And let’s not bring up Kashin Kojin
So mind telling me how hes even going to remotely hurt them?
Sanin stomp
I don't think Akainu or Aokiji would be particularly difficult to defeat, but Kizaru would prove to be a formidable opponent even for all 3 of them at once. None of them have ever faced an opponent moving at the speed of light before, even the Raikage can only move at roughly the speed of lightning and they are still considered the fastest/2nd fastest characters in the entire series
You know you need haki to actually hurt them right?
@@rom9846 no, Genjustsu would work on them perfectly fine which both Jiraiya and Orochimaru have and all 3 are susceptible to water based attacks, hell, you could probably coat your fists in water and that alone might even allow you to make contact. Lastly Sage mode lets you to take advantage of nature energy to hit people without actually touching them which is word for word what advanced armament haki does so that would most likely work too.
Raikages lariat is LS and he doesnt even need his strongest form to use it
@@Farenhyte- I'm not a hardcore power scaler so I don't really feel like debating exactly how fast the Raikage move at their top speed, I know it's at least as fast as lightning and most likely a bit faster... but the difference between lightning and light speed are orders of magnitude apart. I think we can both agree they do not move that level casually even if they have specific attacks capable of reaching such speeds, and at the end of the day that doesn't help the 3 sannin out at all because they are the ones fighting the admirals not the Raikage. You could make a feasible case for any particular character being durable enough to survive/or evade X or Y attack on either side until you bring Kizaru into the equation. Doesn't matter how hard you hit if you aren't fast enough to tag your opponent, and unless you are literally invincible without a time limit then your opponent can just wear you down over time before delivering a finishing blow. Not even Tsunade is truely invincible and none of them are fast enough to tag Kizaru. Their absolute best bet would be to focus on Aokiji and Akainu first and then pray to god they can catch Kizaru in a Frog Song before he figures out none of them can fly and just nukes the entire battlefield from a safe distance.
@@devonrounds5583 The raikages lariat is stated directly as "almost the speed of light". To perform the double lariat, he has to match speed with killer bee, who is slower than the raikage and still only needs a version 1 tailed beast cloak to reach the almost light speed requirement to perform the lariat. This means that killer bee isnt even using half his potentual speed here and if hes nkt even using galf if his speed, imagine how much faster that makes the raikage.
Knowing how fast the raikage is is important because we can use that to scale tsunade, to a point. We know that she is slower than the raikage, but she cant be THAT much slower because we see all the kage fight at full power against madara and they can all at least react to each other.
TL;DR, The raikage is faster than light -> Tsunade is ambiguously slower than the raikage, but not by much -> Tsunade and the sannin should be aroind light speed based solely on the raikage.
But there are plenty of other ways to get them to light speed based on other characters that they should be superior to
Sannin stomp 🙌
Low diff with Verse Equalisation and Mid diff without Verse Equalisation.
Each of the Sannin are High Kage lvl and Jiraiya goes beyond with Sage Mode. Orochimaru is LITERALLY Immortal and Tsunade for time being.
Base line Scaling for Sannin is Country Lvl with direct Manga and Databooks statement about Tsunade and Orochimaru. Jiraiya is also on Same lvl by being equal t them and Superior to Akatsuki members who has Country lvl feats and Statements like Sasori and Deidara. Jiraiya is amped in Sage mode by Dozens of Times and Orochimaru in Hydra form 🙌
Admirals are Not even close to that Lvl. They do not scale to WB. WB was stated to be able to Surface Wipe which only Correlates to his Prime. WB had no intention to Destroy Marineford. So Akainu stopping his Attack would only scale below Marineford 🤷🏻
Strength Easily goes to Sannin with Tsunade and Jiraiya being Strongest out of Six. Tsunade can Break Susano Which can Tank Lava and Jiraiya has Sage mode enhanced Strength Which os close to her.
Speed also Easily goes to Sannin via Orochimaru and Jiraiya in Base being able to Keep up with 4 tails Naruto even though both were Handicapped. So , hey both scale above 4 tails Naruto in Speed. Orochimaru at his Full Power is even More Powerful. Jiraiya then gets Sage mode which is Dozens of Times amp. Jiraiya scale above to Pain via him blitzing Pain Paths and Pain needing Shared vision at all time to Keep up with Jiraiya. Tsunade is Equal to their Base Forms. And Scale to Edo Madara via her fight with him and beating his Clone by Herself.
Jiraiya is Sage mode would scale to or above LS Easily. This is Combat Speed as reaction Speed is much higher with FTL+.
Admirals don't have any speed feats close to them except Kizaru who moves at Lightspeed via his Devil Fruit. Kizaru's Lightspeed Only correlates to his Travel speed and not Combat Speed because he can only utilise light speed while being light particle. Kizaru is also stated to be the Fastest.
So every Admiral would be Much below Kizaru which every Sannin can Handle 🙌
For Abilities and Hax , Admirals are pretty straight forward with their Elemental Devil Fruits and Haki.
Each if them can Control an Element , ice , Magma and Light. They have Various attacks and moves using this.
Their Haki is Normal for most part except Akainu implied to have Advanced Observation and All of them have Advanced Armament. Which is Future sight and Ability to Attack without coming in Contact , Could be Dura negation too.
Sannin have a Wide Arsenal of Abilities and Hax.
Despite Their Basic Ninja Techniques , Together They have access To all Basic Chakra Natures and have High tier Jutsu of it. Wind , Water , Fire , Lightning and Earth. Also Summoning Jutsus.
Tsunade has Only Shown Brute Strength , Regen , Healing and Durability. She can punch enemy attacks back at them even if its Very Potent Fire Balls Without hurting Herself.
With 100 Healings , She can Heal herself over and over until her Vast amount of reserve Chakra runs out which essentially make her immortal for the Time being.
Orochimaru haven't shown his Jutsu Prowess During the series but we can easily assume that he can Release atleast Mid- High tier Jutsu of every Chakra Nature.
He also has a unending access to Snake Summons , Small and Massive. Can use clones such as Shadow and Mud Clones. Can Use Edo tensei which are summoning dead ones back therefore making them immortal and access to Unlimited Chakra. Its LITERALLY impossible to Stop without sealing them. Orochimaru has access to all previous Hokage Edo. So he can Summon Minato , Hiruzen and Tobirama close to the Power when they died and Hashirama nerfed in comparison to When he was Alive.
Jiraiya on the Other hand is the Most Versatile and Stacked fighter. He has Access 4 Basic Chakra Natures and Summoning. He has Fire Style which calced base line multi - Mountain lvl and High end Large Island Lvl to Country lvl when he was only 30% Power die to Drugs.
Other than Elementals , He has Rasengan , Lions Mane , Oil release , Shadow manipulation , Genjutsu , Sealing Jutsus etc. With sage mode , his Power becomes Much more potent and Higher. All abilities gets amped. And he has access Ma and Pa , two sage toads who sit on his shoulder and give him an endless source of Nature Energy. They have their own Attacks and can combine Attacks and amp each other. Toad Song Genjutsu traps everyone who listen it into a Genjutsu despite the Number 🙌
So Overall , Sannin Merks 🤷🏻
Even if you ignore the fact that Admirals are not even close to Sannin in Combat Speed , Their abilities are more than enough.
Jiraiya's Earth swamp to Trap them and Fire style on top would wipe Aokiji Away.
Tsunade's punches followed by Water Style Attacks would take care of Akainu.
Kizaru is tough to counter but Toad Song Genjutsu takes care fo him 🙌
Any of Admirals Attacks not affecting Orochimaru or Tsunade via their Immortality and Regen. Jiraiya'$ Dura , Defence and Sage mode reflex allows him to dodge if them. And admirals are not that Versatile. Akainu Magma metoer Shower can easily be evaded and Kizaru's Light beam can be Blocked with Water or Earth Style walls.
Aokiji is not doing anything because he is outclassed and Matchup is bad for him 🤷🏻Only thing he can do freeze Water Style but only if Sannin create Large amount of Water for fun. Concentrated Attacks would be impossible for Aokiji to freeze since he have to have contact with them and he has never freezed such high Speed moving attack before. Also , Bath of Boiling Oil is Aokiji's Perfect Counter , Liquid but too hot to Touch or Freeze 🤷🏻
This is without verse equalisation.
With Verse Equalisation , Sannin stomp even harder with Basic attacks , Poison , Tsunade's Punches , Jiraiya Kebari Senbon , Rasengan , Large scale Elemental Jutsus etc. because all of the contain Chakra 🙌
yeah man if we take haki and chakra as equal then Shanin can easily clap there chicks, and there are more versitile. And the main problem is IDK why he using Weak form of orochimaru not the war arc one. AND thanks for this comment you safe us from this hypocrite video
@@FangLeng-lh4gn Thanks.
And Yes , if Haki is equalised to Chakra , Admirals has no way Survive. Because even if their element is strong against that certain attack , Chakra in them would work as Haki and hurt Admiral's real body.
ikr . He didn't Use Orochimaru war arc or Part 1 ( Pre - Hiruzen fight ) Orochimaru who is Prime Orochimaru.
And He Didn't Mention Jiraiya's Toad Song which will One shot all three at once with or without verse equalisation.
And also , the fact Orochimaru can summon 4 previous Hokage who can fight even Juubito.
And he didn't mention things like Shadow Clones. Jiraiya and Orochimaru can make ton of them and make Gang up on Admirals.
@@FangLeng-lh4gn Thanks.
And Yes , if Haki is equalised to Chakra , Admirals has no way Survive. Because even if their element is strong against that certain attack , Chakra in them would work as Haki and hurt Admiral's real body.
ikr . He didn't Use Orochimaru war arc or Part 1 ( Pre - Hiruzen fight ) Orochimaru who is Prime Orochimaru.
And He Didn't Mention Jiraiya's Toad Song which will One shot all three at once with or without verse equalisation.
And also , the fact Orochimaru can summon 4 previous Hokage who can fight even Juubito.
And he didn't mention things like Shadow Clones. Jiraiya and Orochimaru can make ton of them and make Gang up on Admirals.
"Akatsuki members who has Country lvl feats and Statements like Sasori and Deidara. Jiraiya is amped in Sage mode by Dozens of Times and Orochimaru in Hydra form 🙌"
- So admirals are easily planetary level if they outscale Enel who could cover with his regular attacks 1/3 of Moon and even ,ore using amps from ark Maxim creating Raigo which was dispelled by base pre-timeskip Luffy, so considering difference is stats any admiral in his relaxed state is easily planetary.
"They do not scale to WB. WB was stated to be able to Surface Wipe which only Correlates to his Prime. "
- Sengoku, Tsuru and people all over the world were talking about old Whitebeard. And he was directly stated that he can destroy entire world, not wipe surface.
"WB had no intention to Destroy Marineford. "
- And that's why WB got an ability to use interanl tremor by creating spheres around his hands to attack at his full potential causing mininal damage to sorroundings + he additionally infused his attacks with haki which amped it even higher and Akainu recovered in 10 minutes.
"Strength Easily goes to Sannin with Tsunade and Jiraiya being Strongest out of Six. Tsunade can Break Susano Which can Tank Lava"
- How exactly temeperature resistance scales durability? Strength comes from physical power where even base Luffy outscales all sanin together for his ability to easily hold 900 tons of pure gold, casually run with it, climb and beanstalk and blitz Enel with it who had lightning speed. Any admiral outscale that Luffy even whithout boost form haki, so strength of just one admiral >>>>> entire sanin group.
"Speed also Easily goes to Sannin via Orochimaru and Jiraiya in Base being able to Keep up with 4 tails Naruto even though both were Handicapped. So , hey both scale above 4 tails Naruto in Speed. Orochimaru at his Full Power is even More Powerful. Jiraiya then gets Sage mode which is Dozens of Times amp. Jiraiya scale above to Pain via him blitzing Pain Paths and Pain needing Shared vision at all time to Keep up with Jiraiya. Tsunade is Equal to their Base Forms. And Scale to Edo Madara via her fight with him and beating his Clone by Herself.
Jiraiya is Sage mode would scale to or above LS Easily. This is Combat Speed as reaction Speed is much higher with FTL+. "
- Not a single FTL feat, the fastets shinoby was stated to be almost light speed which even slower than relaxed Kizaru and relaxed Kizaru was tagged by old Rayleigh who is no match for any admiral in stats. All other admirals scale equal to relaxed Kizaru in speed and Kizaru shown an ability to accelerate his light form speed even higher than regular light so he is even faster.
" Wind , Water , Fire , Lightning and Earth."
- Useless against logia exept for water which gets frozen by Aokiji or vaporized by Akainu without contact and fire for Aokiji who could sustain boiling magma lookiing at his result on Punk Hazard where his ice resists magma for years keeping its size completely frozen.
"Also Summoning Jutsus."
- Frozen by Aokiji who could freeze entire ocean in second.
"Regen , Healing and Durability. "
- Durability negation in close combat and complete vaporization from Akainu to leave nothing to regenerate from or getting entirely nuked by Kizaru's lasers and just comple freezing from Aokiji who can freeze body easily from inside out making that body shutter from regular hit. No healing or regeneration would save from it.
"such as Shadow and Mud Clones."
- Observation haki goes in action or Aokiji just freezes entire battlefield in second.
"impossible to Stop without sealing them"
- Or paralyzing them which can be easily done by Aokiji's ice capsule.
"Jiraiya's Earth swamp to Trap them and Fire style on top would wipe Aokiji Away. "
- Jiraya's fire style never could melt steel with presence, Akainu could and it still took 10 days to take Aokiji down, Jiraya doesn't have nor stats, nore abililities to even scratch Aokiji who can cover himself with miles of ice which resistant to Akainu's magma.
"Tsunade's punches followed by Water Style Attacks would take care of Akainu. "
- Water gets vaporized long before it will reach Akainu. Akainu can morph his body using advance obseravtion haki. Akainu will break Tsunade with opposed punch by massively outscaling her in pure strength with durability negation which will nuke her insides out even before her hand will touch Akainu, or Akainu can just break her apart without haki on pure stats superuiority since she is weaker than pre timeskip Luffy. Take any option you like.
"Kizaru is tough to counter but Toad Song Genjutsu takes care fo him 🙌"
- Doesn't work on non chakra users who additinaly has observation haki to counter it.
"Any of Admirals Attacks not affecting Orochimaru or Tsunade via their Immortality and Regen"
- Both are getting vaporized into nothingness so they won't get a chance to regenerate from something.
"Dura , Defence and Sage mode reflex allows him to dodge if them."
- Gets blitzed by FTL+ Kizaru with durability negation.
"Akainu Magma metoer Shower can easily be evaded and Kizaru's Light beam can be Blocked with Water or Earth Style walls."
- Akainu's meteor shower is attack which he uses against crowd not in local small fights, and really? You want to block nuke with hundreds meters of exlosion with water and earth? Good luck with it, Kizaru's shot explosion will break through it easily, look at size of Sabaody trees which got nuked after one Kizaru's casual shot.
"Aokiji is not doing anything because he is outclassed and Matchup is bad for him 🤷🏻Only thing he can do freeze Water Style but only if Sannin create Large amount of Water for fun."
- Aokiji casually froze ocean from one island to another in his lazy mood just to help some people get onto another island by foot, i doubt that some puddles will make Aokiji even laugh.
In the end, low diff for Admirals and you get prize for biggest cap of the year, buddy.
@@manlight5035 well for admirals, Itachi is more than enough he can just cast tsukiyomi(a mind illusion in which he can control time and space) on them and it's over. You wrote a whole easy but in the end 1 single guy was more than capable of handling them, Sad to be you ^lol
Jiraiya solos
Boruto Verse
Kashin Koji > 3 Admirals
Neg Diff
Orochimaru > 3 admirals
Neg diff