Ok so first and foremost a massive thank you to everyone who has watched and commented on this video over the last few days. There are far to many comments for me to reply to everyone at the moment. There are some mixed views on here now in the comments section with regards to this video. Anyhow this video was just a short clip taken from a much longer video called The Forth road bridge ( here is a link to the full video yeah ) th-cam.com/video/FH6wj-0gtqs/w-d-xo.html I am no expert with regards to truck driving, and I have never claimed to be. Every day is still a school day for me. Cheers many thanx yeah
Well as well has being a biker i have my HGV to and to be honest other drivers just do not understand trucks at all, they dont realize the blind spots you have or how wide you need to take corners etc. One of my pet hates is when a car just about to enter traffic lights slams on their breaks at amber not realizing the truck behind cannot stop on a dime. Defensive driving in a truck is a must yet other drivers need to be taught these things to.
Completely agree with everyone on the road being complete twats... including lorry drivers! My annoyance is when HGV's use the 'Coaches only' parking at services and my passengers have to walk from a dangerous part of the services area!
The "Everybody is a twat" rule is my mantra when I'm riding my motorbike. Assume they'll do the most stupid manoeuvre, prep and position yourself accordingly and you get to live a bit longer. And give HGV's space and respect their limited visibility.
thankyou as an hgv driver i am always looking out for everything' bikes even more' its nice to know people like you understand blind spots' enjoy you're bike mate
That was the family friendly version of what I was taught as a student motorcyclist. When I got my HGV the only difference was they were a little more reluctant to drive themselves into you. I enjoyed your video, mate. It's nice to see there's still someone out there who knows what "lane discipline" is.
The reason most get anywhere near 50k is employers taking piss with hours and nights out. Money aint great if you've got to work all the hours god sends
Love it! I drive a car thinking exactly the same about everyone else. 😂 There are those of us car drivers that absolutely appreciate what you do for the rest of us, especially over the past few years when things have been hectic. So thank you, and mad respect.
Excellent. I agree with your philosophy! I’m always considerate of hgv drivers. I do see many though, that drive too close behind others, overtake and don’t have the speed or momentum then hold up the number two lane for miles. A couple of days ago I had to hold back in the number three lane to wait for a a wide load with a small house on its back, that didn’t have speed of momentum to pass (in high winds!) the hgv in number one lane. For ages he held in number 2 with his load overhanging number three. Shocking.
I have always had respect for truck drivers to the point that I will always give way to them, no matter how far I am along the road to them. My dad was an artic driver in the days before computers, power steering, and trucks became miniature computers on 18 wheels. I used to drive a Bedford TK in the 80s and I loved it. I salute all artic drivers.
Needed spinach pop eye styleeee to push and pull. And double de clutch on some serious gearboxes. Best box, Eaton twin splitter. Most steering wheel attendants wouldn’t know what a clutch and a gearstick is in a lorry, never mind seen one. £50k a year. No chance. 😂😂😂😂😂😂
@numbnutz7832 I've driven a Scania 112 with full clutch and manual gear box, and to be perfect honest with I would much rather have a modern truck with full automatic gearbox and all mod com technology............ And if your being really honest so would all of you boring old back in the day brigage, with your outdated views and comments regarding the younger generation of drivers. Given the choice you would all have a modern day truck any day of the week. Work smarter not harder !.
@@ChattingWithMeHGV Yes I agree. Although I do miss doing the double clutch, I always thought that was so cool, in the same way As I love listening to air brakes. I know! I am sad.😂
@@numbnutz7832 I trained and passed my class 1 way way back in 73 on a Eaton twin speed .loved that box .Last one I had was a range change with 18 diff speeds. Was not too keen on that as still got a bit of a lump on my left thumb from years of lifting the gear change knob .
My dad taught me that if you go driving with the thought that every driver could hit you well it’s makes you look out for potential problems/ accidents. We should have retesting every 5-10 years to get rid of really bad drivers. Great video mate Mandy southwest UK
As an ex class 1 ADR driver I absolutely 100% completely agree with you, my old instructor when I first started learning to drive cars said something that stuck with me forever, he said, “when you’re driving just remember that everyone else is complete and utter dickhead that will do whatever it takes to ruin your day, so that means you have to anticipate what drivers could possibly do 10 vehicles away in every direction and be ready to avoid them safely”. That’s stayed with me through my entire military driving career and saved my life once or twice too, when you see some of the people on the roads today you wonder how the hell they have a license in most cases. I’m no longer on the roads but, I don’t envy you heavy hauler boy having to deal with these idiots nowadays. Stay safe driver and keep ya head on a swivel 👍🇬🇧
I’d love to be able to thank my car and m/cycle instructors and let them know they saved my life many times over. Thank you Mr Starbuck of Nottingham. So thorough I can still hear his voice as I drive through hazards. One thing that he said that stays with me is ‘He’s forgotten that he was a learner driver once!’ He’d say this whenever another driver got impatient. It comes back to me whenever I’m following a learners and I just hang back a good distance so they don’t get freaked.
Now let's talk about the genius truck drivers who drive 90.5 km/h and take over other trucks driving 90 km/h, blocking two-lane highways for 20 minutes for everyone else. Just to arrive at the next truck stop 45 seconds earlier. Happens all the time in Germany, for example. I think this behavior has a measurable impact on the gdp in terms of wasting everyone's time and causing traffic jams for no feckin reason
Treating everyone else on the road as a twat has done me no harm for 30 years on the road - in fact its an increasingly accurate statement. I have never driven a HGV but like yourself I'm always looking several hundred yards ahead of me so if a situation is developing i have time to react in a way that doesn't end in the inattentive driver behind smashing into the back of me.
Unfortunately not all HGV drivers are so considerate, experienced and mindful. I was run off the road on a roundabout by a HGV who decided that he was going to have the inside lane (cut me up) regardless of the fact that my car was already in that lane (correctly). Luckily I could mount the grassy area of the roundabout just before the bridge holding the flyover in place, managed to stop my car in time and I was being followed by my partner who witnessed the event.
27 years driving class one and last 10 years doing mainland europe and if I'm honest i actually hate coming back into the UK as the standard of driving is atrocious
Truck drivers on phones. I second that! Only a couple of days ago I was a passenger on a long distance bus, and as we drew alongside a big truck (on the motorway, at speed), I was sat at about the same level as the truck driver, and I watched him as he regularly took 1hand off the wheel to type messages on his phone in it's dashboard holder, and kept turning to look at his phone.
@@martinsims1273I'm always tempted to take a picture and send it to the police when i see that. They don't take lorry drivers on their phones lightly.
@@stevendavis7079 I was offered training to get my class 2 but couldn't be arsed. Doesn't really interest me now looking back I should of done a trade as these jobs are all dead end regardless.
Typical HGV driver. As a rule of thumb, whatever a HGV driver tells you he earns, knock a third off and then you're closer to the true amount. Drivers like boasting about £50k earnings but very few actually ever earn anywhere near that. The ones that do earn 50k are doing 70-80 hrs per week and alternating 5/6 shifts pw and 4/5 nights away pw to get that money, no life balance whatsoever. I've worked in the industry for over 20 years and over 15 of those years have been spent on petrol/chemical and bitumen tankers, I've only touched £50k on a couple of occasions and it made me miserable, depressed and stressed because I was giving up my entire life to do it, not worth it at all, better off with £35k and an actual home, family and social life IMO. Most HGV drivers talk a lot of BS when It comes to money.
Its nice to see an HGV driver driving with a bit of commen sence .90 % of so called professional drivers are worse than anything you have just highlighted .They are always in a rush ,and bully anything in there way .
90% are bad according to you? Oh please stop talking out your arse, the majority have more driving ability in their little finger than you posses in your entire body.
Dont know about putting some morons in a wagon .But have said for years ,if you want a driving licence you should have to do 1000 miles on a motorcycle .It makes you so much aware of the road situations .
I recognize the roundabout at Hermiston Gait and going onto the bypass on Edinburgh South ,its a trickey roundabout and the driver did really well ,well driven my man 😀😀😀
Fifty grand a year?! Who the hell you working for? HGV driving is not the good earner it used to be and I don't know any trucker earning that much, 30- 35 grand if they're lucky and doing stupid hours with no social or family life, poor physical and mental health
I'm glad someone actually acknowledges the state of our roads. I work in Birmingham.. accessing the M6 toward Coventry (Lane 2 exit) is a pig, every car uses lane 3 to cut in at the last second (signs for over a mile), all lanes come to a stop at that point...selfish people who cause mayhem every day
My Dad used to tell me that when he was teaching me to drive, but he used a stronger word than that! My son is a long-time driver of double-decker artics too and the stoties he tells of other road users make my hair stand on end! Keep posting the vids my friend, you are carrying out a public service!
Spot on. Have been driving HGVs 40 years next year. This is our daily experiece on the roads of the UK. The standard of driving is getting worse. Treating others like twats is the only way i am sorry to say
Great mindset, i been driving my car for the last 17 years and treating everyone as an idiot helps a lot, because eventually you do and you are ready to react. But with respect as well as you said they could be lovely people and we all make mistakes. Love how high you are in a HGV the view must be amazing. Maybe ill try it one day as an experience day.
I drive on that same road almost every day. The tailgating is horrendous, I don't know of people don't know they're doing it or don't care. Westbound where the 50mph limit comes in to slow traffic going down the slip road to the M8 is really bad for people waiting till the last second before changing from lane 2 to lane 1. Also people seem to lack the ability to use the slip road when joining the bypass, a lot of them stop like they're at a give way rather than use the length of the slip road. This just causes more delays as traffic has to slow to let them on. Keep them coming mate 😎
I do a few things, but the thing I do best is drive. I don't drive a HGV, just a small van, but I am really good at it. I stick to the law, the limits, and have really good anticipation skills. I've been driving 47 years, and the one thing that people remark on is that I never get road rage. There's a reason for this... I think 95% of all the people I meet in life are complete twats, so when I am on the road, I expect that to remain the same - hence I'm never surprised at what they do.
When driving something as large as a truck n trailer you get a great view of all the other road users . Sadly it's the best way to treat everybody as he says mainly in my opinion as majority of them have no clue in the difference of size and road requirements. I ride a motorcycle and I treat everybody else with the mind set they want me as a bonnet ornament .. it has come in good stead a few times as most think your bloody invisible. Or as with the trucker they don't exist on the little cars road .... thanks to the guys on the roads doing this job ..
I'm on that road regularly and have seen numerous accidents at the roundabout, unfortunately often involving trucks!! Be safe and considerate everyone.
Drive like "everyone else around you is a complete 2@" - been driving and riding on the roads using this exact thinking since I got my licences. It's saved my life countless times but its not foolproof. There are still careless drivers and riders (both motorised and manual powered) that have the ability to catch you out. Driver standards have taken a serious tumble since I got on the road and it's getting more dangerous. More and more raod users, both domestic and commercial, present as either having a lack of knoweledge, consideration, or patience. The DVSA need to pull their fingers out, assess drivers' abilities properly, and stop handing out licences out just to get their waiting lists down. It might also be nice to see more police out there NOT just in their revenue generation vans.
@Chatting with me in an HGV - I totally agree with what you said at 3.18 and again at the end of your video. It is exactly what I tell my wife and our daughter when they get in their cars. I tell them to watch out for the idiots - keep their wits about them, 360 degrees!! Always keep checking their mirrors and make sure they are properly set before they even put on their seat belt. It’s not their driving I worry about, it’s the idiots out there that they don’t notice - they are the ones to be wary of. I have always made sure that my wife knows what a 2 second (or in the wet, a 4 second) space looks like. It’s simple - pick something to mark the start of your measuring point, like the vehicle in front driving past something at the side of the road, or driving over a shadow in the road and then say “ONE-ONE THOUSAND, TWO-ONE THOUSAND”. If you have driven past or over that initial ‘mark’ before you can complete saying that, you are within a 2 second gap and are more likely to have an accident by not being able to stop in time if the vehicle in front rear ends someone. Always maintain a gap!! It could save your life.
That part of the road where the caravan cut you up is one of the most pointless sections of road on the network in Scotland 😂 The way it's designed if your not used to that road you would think they both lead different routes but doesn't matter what lane your in it joins together again about 100 yards further up. First time i was on it the satnav told me to keep left but i was in right lane and couldn't get back across, i started flapping then realised literally 5 seconds later that they join back together anyway.
50K a year for HGV drivers is shit… the long hours, the appalling services on motorways, the way you get treated at places, the list is endless! I did 30 years of international driving, started with GH then went on to Porsche supercup based in Germany, then F1 with Willys, RB & finished at the FIA…. Loved driving the fantastic race transporters but as for driving here in the UK in a truck for 50K a year I wouldn’t bother getting out of bed!
As a biker this is exactly what I was taught and sadly, it’s not far off the mark. I see a few good drivers, irrespective of what they’re driving / riding but the majority are incompetent, aggressive and or dangerous these days.
I`m a retired LGV driver and STILL treat everyone `as a complete twat`! If these people could drive a truck for a week, they`d soon change the way they drive for the better! I found myself agreeing with everything you said!
I drive HGV's in London. Everyone is a twat. Grab two lanes at a junction and your almost guaranteed to have an Uber up your side blocking the opposite side of the road. I've lost count of the yellow box fines I've had because someone has nipped in front of me and I'm over hanging at the back.
@@chrisbagley8104 No, that's East-West. This is Carting mining equipment or chemicals from Perth to the Pilbara and back. At nearly 3,500 km for a round trip, you don't even leave the state of WA.
@@chrisbagley8104 No problem! I didn't take offence. I was merely explaining where one would be driving. The East-West jobs from Perth to Sydney or Melbourne and return typically take about a week non-stop with two drivers, otherwise known as two-up. A lot of the work up to the Pilbara from Perth and return is single driver and takes about three to four days return.
Can't fathom whether that's a Wigan or a Coppull accent? Just out of curiosity (only seen this vid), have you done one where you're on a dual carriageway that goes into one lane, to show how everyone has to get in front of the truck??
When I started to learn to drive 50 years ago, I was told to treat every road user as a total idiot. Passenger or no passenger in the car, you drive as if you’ve got 1 000 eggs in the car, you have to get from point A to point B without cracking or breaking a single egg. That probably explains why my tyres could do 50k+, along with the brake shoes/pads.
@@stevedawson256 A driving instructor I know always has a bowl of water on the back seat. He has a line going around it, fills the water to that line. At the end of the lesson, the pupil must not have spilt a single drop of water. Once the pupil has mastered how to drive smoothly, by reading the road ahead, gentle breaking, and going round corners smoothly, that’s when he will say to his pupils that they are ready for their test, provided they are safe to do so.
Funny really . When I did my car driving lesson the instructor said one thing to me that still sits in my mind 20 years later . He said " treat all other driver as if they are dickheads and expect them then to do something foolish . If you keep that in mind and drive defensively you will be fine ". I have to say he is bang on and I've got all.my no claims bonus . Never had a accident .
Brilliant video mate 👍 Love the comment about assuming that most other drivers are twats 😂. Reminded me (car driver) of something my driving instructor told me…. When you see someone indicating assume nothing … all it guarantees is the the bulb is working ! 😂 Certainly seems to be the case here in Kent
Good video and one I have experienced many times from the cabs of artics and caravaning. But firstly, I have to check myself from agreeing with you in part because I can understand that car drivers forgetting that they are towing the van and not allowing enough safe distance after overtaking . As my old hgv instructor (ex military) would say, "Treat ALL car drivers as though they can't see past the end of their nose, and you'll be alright ". As for the caravan going in the wrong lane, I have done the same thing in every type of vehicle on the road AND I suggest so has everybody else at one time or another. The main problems with caravans pulled by little cars is the drivers can't see much further past other vehicles and as they're often away from familiar roads its understandable they'll make these mistakes so the moral of the story is keep well away and prepare to give way to them. As another point of interest, large vehicle drivers need to be aware that the LAW has been changed and this puts the blame onto the 'LARGEST' vehicle in the event of an accident so it would be your responsibility to explain why you didn't take evasive action or steps to avoid/anticipate the collision. Unless you want to spend over half an hour or a day reporting an accident. Your choice.
This is exactly why I don't undertake artic's on a roundabout as it's a big vehicle to keep within the white lines... But the majority of drivers don't seem to get this.
Still watching bud, big catch up ahead of me but I'll get there. Watched the full vereion yesterday and couldn't agree more. Ya set off every morning driving your own yoke and everything else,as you say you're like a coil spring. Have a good day 🤙🏼
What a lot of prissy little commenters on here shouting about driving with only one hand on the wheel. Presumeably they're beginners with no experience, only able to repeat the silly formulas of their mechanically-minded instructors. In the real world, no one has ever suffered diminished control from taking a hand from the wheel - for any length of time. I've certainly never seen that or heard of it, and I happen to have been driving for over sixty years, from tractors when I was thirteen to cruiser bikes now at seventy-four, with vehicles of all kinds in between, including many years and hundreds of thousands of miles of long-distance Class 1. On the contrary, some of the worst driving I've seen has been from new drivers jerkily feeding the wheel from hand-to-hand, especially when straightening up, instead of using the vehicle's castoring effect. Really rubbish teaching.
I no how you feel i started driving hgv in 1980 car driver s are crazy and as for van driver s there a law on to them self great driving bud i miss my DAF i retired due to ill health for the past 5 years dont go ther with caravan driver s stay safe bud ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤😊
As a Lorry driver myself I have too agree there are idiot car drivers and van drivers that really have no clue! They think it's thier road don't give you enough room! Fair play driver keeping calm and collected very well done. 👍
Any drivers getting £50k are getting it because the Poles who were keeping wages artificially low have gone home and hauliers are having to pay a proper wage.
Doesn't even have to be high speed mate. I live in a small town of 2000 people. In our town square car park there's a shunt almost every day as someone reverses out of a space without a single glance in the direction they're travelling. Often right into the rear of someone else doing exactly the same thing! In more than one case, taking out people, including about 6 years ago, myself! In one recent case, an elderly driver took out the sides of two other cars, and drove off, completely unaware he'd had a collision, even though he was now dragging a front wing! I'm an old fart myself, and not that long ago was involved in a couple of minor near misses while driving. I had no choice but to conclude they had been largely my fault. Within weeks - as I'd always promised myself I would - I'd surrendered my licence. If I've no other comfort these days, it's at least a certainty that I won't be hurting anyone because I'm still not too old to see sense. I have elderly neighbours who continue to refuse to see sense. They imagine themselves superb drivers when they're scarcely even capable.
HGV and Psv drivers deserve the money I would like to see a train driver doing this would not last also they would not do the hours come in to the real world ASLEF and RMT.
My son was a truck driver but got out and is now a freight train driver. A truck driver can drive slowly in fog, snow in badly lit roads, etc while a train driver HAS to drive by the speeds set on any particular route. Diving at 70mph in the dark, in driving rain when you only have signals to go by is very stressful, given that it can take nearly a mile to stop at those speeds. Also he can't slow down when he passes through a crowded station knowing that at any moment a person may jump in front of his train. My son knows several other drivers who have experienced a suicide and it can take years to get over it. There's a lot more to driving a train than just pulling a controller.
Ok so first and foremost a massive thank you to everyone who has watched and commented on this video over the last few days. There are far to many comments for me to reply to everyone at the moment. There are some mixed views on here now in the comments section with regards to this video. Anyhow this video was just a short clip taken from a much longer video called The Forth road bridge ( here is a link to the full video yeah )
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I am no expert with regards to truck driving, and I have never claimed to be. Every day is still a school day for me. Cheers many thanx yeah
Well as well has being a biker i have my HGV to and to be honest other drivers just do not understand trucks at all, they dont realize the blind spots you have or how wide you need to take corners etc. One of my pet hates is when a car just about to enter traffic lights slams on their breaks at amber not realizing the truck behind cannot stop on a dime. Defensive driving in a truck is a must yet other drivers need to be taught these things to.
Completely agree with everyone on the road being complete twats... including lorry drivers! My annoyance is when HGV's use the 'Coaches only' parking at services and my passengers have to walk from a dangerous part of the services area!
My dad often used to say "You have to drive as though everyone's an idiot - everyone's not an idiot, but that's how you've got to drive".
stop waving your arm everywhere, both hands should be on the wheel
@@stephenbailey2761 Says what law ?
"And they are probably good people...once they turn the ignition off".. You made my day 🤣🤣
The "Everybody is a twat" rule is my mantra when I'm riding my motorbike. Assume they'll do the most stupid manoeuvre, prep and position yourself accordingly and you get to live a bit longer. And give HGV's space and respect their limited visibility.
thankyou as an hgv driver i am always looking out for everything'
bikes even more'
its nice to know people like you understand blind spots'
enjoy you're bike mate
@@mayfairblue Thanks bud. Happy trails!
That wobble box would have got my full Horns & light show! Best investment I made was a dash camera, stops any arguments then.
That was the family friendly version of what I was taught as a student motorcyclist. When I got my HGV the only difference was they were a little more reluctant to drive themselves into you.
I enjoyed your video, mate. It's nice to see there's still someone out there who knows what "lane discipline" is.
I’m a trucker and I’ve noticed a deterioration in driving standards, no one indicates especially at roundabouts or keeps a safe following distance…
The reason most get anywhere near 50k is employers taking piss with hours and nights out. Money aint great if you've got to work all the hours god sends
As a hgv driver myself we read the road way before it happens because you have to plan ahead
Hello how are you
Love it! I drive a car thinking exactly the same about everyone else. 😂 There are those of us car drivers that absolutely appreciate what you do for the rest of us, especially over the past few years when things have been hectic. So thank you, and mad respect.
Thanks, I like many other HGV drivers appreciate it. 🤝
@@CarlSab9088 No problem my friend!
Excellent. I agree with your philosophy! I’m always considerate of hgv drivers. I do see many though, that drive too close behind others, overtake and don’t have the speed or momentum then hold up the number two lane for miles. A couple of days ago I had to hold back in the number three lane to wait for a a wide load with a small house on its back, that didn’t have speed of momentum to pass (in high winds!) the hgv in number one lane. For ages he held in number 2 with his load overhanging number three. Shocking.
I have always had respect for truck drivers to the point that I will always give way to them, no matter how far I am along the road to them. My dad was an artic driver in the days before computers, power steering, and trucks became miniature computers on 18 wheels. I used to drive a Bedford TK in the 80s and I loved it. I salute all artic drivers.
Needed spinach pop eye styleeee to push and pull. And double de clutch on some serious gearboxes. Best box, Eaton twin splitter. Most steering wheel attendants wouldn’t know what a clutch and a gearstick is in a lorry, never mind seen one. £50k a year. No chance. 😂😂😂😂😂😂
@numbnutz7832 I've driven a Scania 112 with full clutch and manual gear box, and to be perfect honest with I would much rather have a modern truck with full automatic gearbox and all mod com technology............ And if your being really honest so would all of you boring old back in the day brigage, with your outdated views and comments regarding the younger generation of drivers. Given the choice you would all have a modern day truck any day of the week. Work smarter not harder !.
@@ChattingWithMeHGV Yes I agree. Although I do miss doing the double clutch, I always thought that was so cool, in the same way As I love listening to air brakes. I know! I am sad.😂
@@numbnutz7832 I trained and passed my class 1 way way back in 73 on a Eaton twin speed .loved that box .Last one I had was a range change with 18 diff speeds. Was not too keen on that as still got a bit of a lump on my left thumb from years of lifting the gear change knob .
My dad taught me that if you go driving with the thought that every driver could hit you well it’s makes you look out for potential problems/ accidents. We should have retesting every 5-10 years to get rid of really bad drivers.
Great video mate
Mandy southwest UK
It's when they try to overtake another truck going 2 MPH slower than they are talking 2 miles to do so at 57 MPH.
Well said Barry.
My father 50 years ago god rest his soul. " 50% of driving is anticipation, anticipate what the other twat might do"
As an ex class 1 ADR driver I absolutely 100% completely agree with you, my old instructor when I first started learning to drive cars said something that stuck with me forever, he said, “when you’re driving just remember that everyone else is complete and utter dickhead that will do whatever it takes to ruin your day, so that means you have to anticipate what drivers could possibly do 10 vehicles away in every direction and be ready to avoid them safely”. That’s stayed with me through my entire military driving career and saved my life once or twice too, when you see some of the people on the roads today you wonder how the hell they have a license in most cases.
I’m no longer on the roads but, I don’t envy you heavy hauler boy having to deal with these idiots nowadays. Stay safe driver and keep ya head on a swivel 👍🇬🇧
I’d love to be able to thank my car and m/cycle instructors and let them know they saved my life many times over. Thank you Mr Starbuck of Nottingham. So thorough I can still hear his voice as I drive through hazards.
One thing that he said that stays with me is ‘He’s forgotten that he was a learner driver once!’ He’d say this whenever another driver got impatient. It comes back to me whenever I’m following a learners and I just hang back a good distance so they don’t get freaked.
Came across this randomly, what a video mate. had me in stitches!
NA63 GZP must have forgotten he was towing a caravan!!
Now let's talk about the genius truck drivers who drive 90.5 km/h and take over other trucks driving 90 km/h, blocking two-lane highways for 20 minutes for everyone else. Just to arrive at the next truck stop 45 seconds earlier. Happens all the time in Germany, for example. I think this behavior has a measurable impact on the gdp in terms of wasting everyone's time and causing traffic jams for no feckin reason
I have done in this short clip
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If we all drove as if we were trying to be as nice as possible that’d be great, but instead it’s like some kind of secret race that everyone is in on.
Treating everyone else on the road as a twat has done me no harm for 30 years on the road - in fact its an increasingly accurate statement. I have never driven a HGV but like yourself I'm always looking several hundred yards ahead of me so if a situation is developing i have time to react in a way that doesn't end in the inattentive driver behind smashing into the back of me.
The Peter Kay of HGV 😂😂😂❤
Unfortunately not all HGV drivers are so considerate, experienced and mindful. I was run off the road on a roundabout by a HGV who decided that he was going to have the inside lane (cut me up) regardless of the fact that my car was already in that lane (correctly). Luckily I could mount the grassy area of the roundabout just before the bridge holding the flyover in place, managed to stop my car in time and I was being followed by my partner who witnessed the event.
Sounds like the hgv didn't have enough space to make the turn. They should have waited.
27 years driving class one and last 10 years doing mainland europe and if I'm honest i actually hate coming back into the UK as the standard of driving is atrocious
I use the motorways all day every day. I’m amazed at how close trucks drive to the vehicles in front. And truck drivers on phones? I see so many…..
Truck drivers on phones. I second that! Only a couple of days ago I was a passenger on a long distance bus, and as we drew alongside a big truck (on the motorway, at speed), I was sat at about the same level as the truck driver, and I watched him as he regularly took 1hand off the wheel to type messages on his phone in it's dashboard holder, and kept turning to look at his phone.
@@martinsims1273I'm always tempted to take a picture and send it to the police when i see that. They don't take lorry drivers on their phones lightly.
Plot twist: they don’t get paid £50k
I drive fuel tankers, 4 day week, no weekends or bank holidays, my basic is £57k
Yeah we do 😅
Great commentary drive, sensible sense of humour and my 100% agreement to the statements.
Clearly the rates have gone up then. Drove artics for 15 years for £10 per hour. Its why I dont drive them now
£10 per hour 😂 I'm paid more emptying bins.
@@jacobs3031 Disgraceful isnt it. Haven't driven one for 8 years and never will again.
@@stevendavis7079 I was offered training to get my class 2 but couldn't be arsed. Doesn't really interest me now looking back I should of done a trade as these jobs are all dead end regardless.
All the rules and regulations put me off as well seen a lot bending the rules don't want to be in that situation.
It's like riding a motorbike in London. Always ride like everyone is trying to knock you off your bike... 😆
Typical HGV driver.
As a rule of thumb, whatever a HGV driver tells you he earns, knock a third off and then you're closer to the true amount.
Drivers like boasting about £50k earnings but very few actually ever earn anywhere near that.
The ones that do earn 50k are doing 70-80 hrs per week and alternating 5/6 shifts pw and 4/5 nights away pw to get that money, no life balance whatsoever.
I've worked in the industry for over 20 years and over 15 of those years have been spent on petrol/chemical and bitumen tankers, I've only touched £50k on a couple of occasions and it made me miserable, depressed and stressed because I was giving up my entire life to do it, not worth it at all, better off with £35k and an actual home, family and social life IMO.
Most HGV drivers talk a lot of BS when It comes to money.
“You’ve just gotta have that mindset that, everybody else around ya, is a complete twat.”
Good advice.
I found learning how to ride motorbikes made me a far better car driver.
Its nice to see an HGV driver driving with a bit of commen sence .90 % of so called professional drivers are worse than anything you have just highlighted .They are always in a rush ,and bully anything in there way .
That's a good point. There are a few BAD truck drivers out there.
90% are bad according to you?
Oh please stop talking out your arse, the majority have more driving ability in their little finger than you posses in your entire body.
Brilliant. . Well done Driver . . I believe. . Everyone taking a car exam should ride on a motorcycle and sit in the cab of a HGV . . . 👍👍
Absolutely
Dont know about putting some morons in a wagon .But have said for years ,if you want a driving licence you should have to do 1000 miles on a motorcycle .It makes you so much aware of the road situations .
Said this for years
Excellent idea
I recognize the roundabout at Hermiston Gait and going onto the bypass on Edinburgh South ,its a trickey roundabout and the driver did really well ,well driven my man 😀😀😀
I never knew Paddy McGuiness could drive a truck.
Got to be honest mate, most people in Edinburgh once they turn the ignition off are still twats 😂
Great stuff - really enjoy - nothing but respect for HGV drivers.
Fifty grand a year?! Who the hell you working for? HGV driving is not the good earner it used to be and I don't know any trucker earning that much, 30- 35 grand if they're lucky and doing stupid hours with no social or family life, poor physical and mental health
I'm glad someone actually acknowledges the state of our roads. I work in Birmingham.. accessing the M6 toward Coventry (Lane 2 exit) is a pig, every car uses lane 3 to cut in at the last second (signs for over a mile), all lanes come to a stop at that point...selfish people who cause mayhem every day
50k a year!?, yeah right
Yeah l was thinking that!
Yes. I'm getting that. £20.72 an hour plus £54 per day Saturday and Sunday premium. 45 hours a week. Do the maths.
@@Nickbaldeagle02 good for you
Got the right idea, not always well expressed but he has the basis of advanced driving.
Just classic, you gotta laugh at the running commentary.
My Dad used to tell me that when he was teaching me to drive, but he used a stronger word than that! My son is a long-time driver of double-decker artics too and the stoties he tells of other road users make my hair stand on end!
Keep posting the vids my friend, you are carrying out a public service!
Spot on. Have been driving HGVs 40 years next year. This is our daily experiece on the roads of the UK. The standard of driving is getting worse. Treating others like twats is the only way i am sorry to say
Spoken like a professional safe driver. Well done 👏
Thanks 👍
Not all hgv drivers earn 50k. My husband earns a lot less and with the hours he works it most probably works out below minimum wage.
He needs to change job then
He either is a absolute mug or you guys live up the sticks.. 😂
Great mindset, i been driving my car for the last 17 years and treating everyone as an idiot helps a lot, because eventually you do and you are ready to react. But with respect as well as you said they could be lovely people and we all make mistakes. Love how high you are in a HGV the view must be amazing. Maybe ill try it one day as an experience day.
As a biker I also think the same, every other driver is a twat wanting to kill me.
It does say in the Highway Code to drive defensively- so there’s some truth there! 😂
I totally agree
I drive on that same road almost every day. The tailgating is horrendous, I don't know of people don't know they're doing it or don't care. Westbound where the 50mph limit comes in to slow traffic going down the slip road to the M8 is really bad for people waiting till the last second before changing from lane 2 to lane 1.
Also people seem to lack the ability to use the slip road when joining the bypass, a lot of them stop like they're at a give way rather than use the length of the slip road. This just causes more delays as traffic has to slow to let them on. Keep them coming mate 😎
I do a few things, but the thing I do best is drive. I don't drive a HGV, just a small van, but I am really good at it. I stick to the law, the limits, and have really good anticipation skills. I've been driving 47 years, and the one thing that people remark on is that I never get road rage. There's a reason for this... I think 95% of all the people I meet in life are complete twats, so when I am on the road, I expect that to remain the same - hence I'm never surprised at what they do.
i work for a parcel company driving class one on a day shift , and if i was being paid 50k a year i'd think i was worth every penny
Same as riding a bike, assume everyone wants to kill you! 😉
Great video and respect ! Does help being higher up to get a good view of what’s going on.
No, why should it?
I’ve also never understood the military thinking that during battles they need to capture the high ground, why? 🙄
@@cypeman8037 IF you capture the high ground,
you can oversee the enemy,
and they have to fight UPHILL to attack you.
When driving something as large as a truck n trailer you get a great view of all the other road users . Sadly it's the best way to treat everybody as he says mainly in my opinion as majority of them have no clue in the difference of size and road requirements. I ride a motorcycle and I treat everybody else with the mind set they want me as a bonnet ornament .. it has come in good stead a few times as most think your bloody invisible. Or as with the trucker they don't exist on the little cars road .... thanks to the guys on the roads doing this job ..
Good comments from the artic driver. Unfortunately it’s mostly HGV drivers that drive dangerously close to cars on the motorway.
£50k is not enough. And I totally agree, you have to assume everyone is a twat 😂
I'm on that road regularly and have seen numerous accidents at the roundabout, unfortunately often involving trucks!! Be safe and considerate everyone.
Drive like "everyone else around you is a complete 2@" - been driving and riding on the roads using this exact thinking since I got my licences. It's saved my life countless times but its not foolproof. There are still careless drivers and riders (both motorised and manual powered) that have the ability to catch you out. Driver standards have taken a serious tumble since I got on the road and it's getting more dangerous. More and more raod users, both domestic and commercial, present as either having a lack of knoweledge, consideration, or patience. The DVSA need to pull their fingers out, assess drivers' abilities properly, and stop handing out licences out just to get their waiting lists down. It might also be nice to see more police out there NOT just in their revenue generation vans.
Ive been a class one driver for 40 years and for some big companies too , don't know where people get the £50k from because I've never got it
Totally agree with HGV driver, drove these until retirement, no one give you space.
Totally agree with everything you said....
StaySafe
@Chatting with me in an HGV - I totally agree with what you said at 3.18 and again at the end of your video. It is exactly what I tell my wife and our daughter when they get in their cars. I tell them to watch out for the idiots - keep their wits about them, 360 degrees!! Always keep checking their mirrors and make sure they are properly set before they even put on their seat belt. It’s not their driving I worry about, it’s the idiots out there that they don’t notice - they are the ones to be wary of. I have always made sure that my wife knows what a 2 second (or in the wet, a 4 second) space looks like. It’s simple - pick something to mark the start of your measuring point, like the vehicle in front driving past something at the side of the road, or driving over a shadow in the road and then say “ONE-ONE THOUSAND, TWO-ONE THOUSAND”. If you have driven past or over that initial ‘mark’ before you can complete saying that, you are within a 2 second gap and are more likely to have an accident by not being able to stop in time if the vehicle in front rear ends someone. Always maintain a gap!! It could save your life.
Hmmm How many HGVs have ruined MY day. Tailgating one of the worst offences
Like the guy in the skip lorry, artic drivers are always tailgating each other !!
Swings and roundabouts?
They are speed limited and you're not. Use this to your advantage.
Then put your foot down and stop fannying about at 53mph
That part of the road where the caravan cut you up is one of the most pointless sections of road on the network in Scotland 😂 The way it's designed if your not used to that road you would think they both lead different routes but doesn't matter what lane your in it joins together again about 100 yards further up. First time i was on it the satnav told me to keep left but i was in right lane and couldn't get back across, i started flapping then realised literally 5 seconds later that they join back together anyway.
You sound like your from a 1970s bus training program that was shown on the bbc , very professional
Lol! A720 with moving traffic wow that’s rare ! Nice video
You need that same mindset for cycling too! Anyway i know the real reason truck drivers get paid well... Long and unsociable hours
50K a year for HGV drivers is shit… the long hours, the appalling services on motorways, the way you get treated at places, the list is endless!
I did 30 years of international driving, started with GH then went on to Porsche supercup based in Germany, then F1 with Willys, RB & finished at the FIA…. Loved driving the fantastic race transporters but as for driving here in the UK in a truck for 50K a year I wouldn’t bother getting out of bed!
The hours aren't long. They're 60 minutes just like for everyone else. Plus motorway services are lovely places these days.
As a biker this is exactly what I was taught and sadly, it’s not far off the mark. I see a few good drivers, irrespective of what they’re driving / riding but the majority are incompetent, aggressive and or dangerous these days.
I`m a retired LGV driver and STILL treat everyone `as a complete twat`! If these people could drive a truck for a week, they`d soon change the way they drive for the better!
I found myself agreeing with everything you said!
Loved "that caravan pushing the car".
I drive HGV's in London. Everyone is a twat. Grab two lanes at a junction and your almost guaranteed to have an Uber up your side blocking the opposite side of the road. I've lost count of the yellow box fines I've had because someone has nipped in front of me and I'm over hanging at the back.
I've driven in London. It's not sexy at all
Shocking driving the car towing the caravan, Nearly took your front end out 😮😮😮
Come to Western Australia and drive road trains. You’ll make almost £100,000 a year gross if you’re prepared to work hard.
Awwww mate, I'd LOVE to drive road trains in Western Australia
Crossing the Nullarbor Plain?
@@chrisbagley8104 No, that's East-West. This is Carting mining equipment or chemicals from Perth to the Pilbara and back. At nearly 3,500 km for a round trip, you don't even leave the state of WA.
@@milk-it Hi, what I meant was a gentle joke on how far and how long it would take for someone to drive over the Nullabor for an unsuspecting POM.
@@chrisbagley8104 No problem! I didn't take offence. I was merely explaining where one would be driving. The East-West jobs from Perth to Sydney or Melbourne and return typically take about a week non-stop with two drivers, otherwise known as two-up. A lot of the work up to the Pilbara from Perth and return is single driver and takes about three to four days return.
Can't fathom whether that's a Wigan or a Coppull accent? Just out of curiosity (only seen this vid), have you done one where you're on a dual carriageway that goes into one lane, to show how everyone has to get in front of the truck??
I don’t know any on 50k (if you know any then let me know, I’ll do it)
I should add…..I’m not up for doing 15 hour days and 6 day working every other week 😉
When I started to learn to drive 50 years ago, I was told to treat every road user as a total idiot. Passenger or no passenger in the car, you drive as if you’ve got 1 000 eggs in the car, you have to get from point A to point B without cracking or breaking a single egg. That probably explains why my tyres could do 50k+, along with the brake shoes/pads.
I was told exactly the same when I took my hgv some 40 years ago , best advice I was given
@@stevedawson256 A driving instructor I know always has a bowl of water on the back seat. He has a line going around it, fills the water to that line. At the end of the lesson, the pupil must not have spilt a single drop of water. Once the pupil has mastered how to drive smoothly, by reading the road ahead, gentle breaking, and going round corners smoothly, that’s when he will say to his pupils that they are ready for their test, provided they are safe to do so.
Funny really . When I did my car driving lesson the instructor said one thing to me that still sits in my mind 20 years later . He said " treat all other driver as if they are dickheads and expect them then to do something foolish . If you keep that in mind and drive defensively you will be fine ". I have to say he is bang on and I've got all.my no claims bonus . Never had a accident .
This road is my second home. You ain’t seen nothing yet😂😂
Brilliant video mate 👍 Love the comment about assuming that most other drivers are twats 😂.
Reminded me (car driver) of something my driving instructor told me…. When you see someone indicating assume nothing … all it guarantees is the the bulb is working ! 😂
Certainly seems to be the case here in Kent
Good video and one I have experienced many times from the cabs of artics and caravaning.
But firstly, I have to check myself from agreeing with you in part because I can understand that car drivers forgetting that they are towing the van and not allowing enough safe distance after overtaking .
As my old hgv instructor (ex military) would say, "Treat ALL car drivers as though they can't see past the end of their nose, and you'll be alright ".
As for the caravan going in the wrong lane, I have done the same thing in every type of vehicle on the road AND I suggest so has everybody else at one time or another.
The main problems with caravans pulled by little cars is the drivers can't see much further past other vehicles and as they're often away from familiar roads its understandable they'll make these mistakes so the moral of the story is keep well away and prepare to give way to them.
As another point of interest, large vehicle drivers need to be aware that the LAW has been changed and this puts the blame onto the 'LARGEST' vehicle in the event of an accident so it would be your responsibility to explain why you didn't take evasive action or steps to avoid/anticipate the collision.
Unless you want to spend over half an hour or a day reporting an accident.
Your choice.
This is exactly why I don't undertake artic's on a roundabout as it's a big vehicle to keep within the white lines... But the majority of drivers don't seem to get this.
I love this driver...
Yeah £50,000 doing 168 hours per week 😂
Still watching bud, big catch up ahead of me but I'll get there. Watched the full vereion yesterday and couldn't agree more. Ya set off every morning driving your own yoke and everything else,as you say you're like a coil spring. Have a good day 🤙🏼
50k is less than I made in retail. They need more.
What a lot of prissy little commenters on here shouting about driving with only one hand on the wheel. Presumeably they're beginners with no experience, only able to repeat the silly formulas of their mechanically-minded instructors.
In the real world, no one has ever suffered diminished control from taking a hand from the wheel - for any length of time. I've certainly never seen that or heard of it, and I happen to have been driving for over sixty years, from tractors when I was thirteen to cruiser bikes now at seventy-four, with vehicles of all kinds in between, including many years and hundreds of thousands of miles of long-distance Class 1. On the contrary, some of the worst driving I've seen has been from new drivers jerkily feeding the wheel from hand-to-hand, especially when straightening up, instead of using the vehicle's castoring effect.
Really rubbish teaching.
Spot on, having both hands on the wheel does not make a good driver 👍
@@jonathanfoster1270 You are correct, but driving one handed can make you a bad driver
I'm with you on this one Rob
AMEN, and I have nothing more to add to your comment
I no how you feel i started driving hgv in 1980 car driver s are crazy and as for van driver s there a law on to them self great driving bud i miss my DAF i retired due to ill health for the past 5 years dont go ther with caravan driver s stay safe bud ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤😊
As a Lorry driver myself I have too agree there are idiot car drivers and van drivers that really have no clue! They think it's thier road don't give you enough room! Fair play driver keeping calm and collected very well done. 👍
£50000 pa because of extremely long hours. There's the odd well paid job out there but not many!
No. I get £49,700 for a 40 hour week delivering cages of burgers 🍔 and fries 🍟 to Maccy D's.
50 grand a year !!
4 on and 4 off..not for me ..
Top comments, barry. A true word about other road uses
Any drivers getting £50k are getting it because the Poles who were keeping wages artificially low have gone home and hauliers are having to pay a proper wage.
Where are all these 50k jobs?
Loads in the south
Excellent advice! I tell my children the same.
Took me a whole ass minute to realise where you were. It’s only a roundabout I used to drive around every week for about 5 months 😂
Most drivers think that they have a shield if invulnerability around them “It won’t happen to me….. “
This is eastbound coming off the M8 onto the Edinburgh South bypass
Cue clown towing a caravan!
Hermiston gate roundabout from M8 onto Edinburgh City bypass A720, know it well and seen many an accident due to poor lane discipline and speeding.
Doesn't even have to be high speed mate. I live in a small town of 2000 people. In our town square car park there's a shunt almost every day as someone reverses out of a space without a single glance in the direction they're travelling. Often right into the rear of someone else doing exactly the same thing! In more than one case, taking out people, including about 6 years ago, myself!
In one recent case, an elderly driver took out the sides of two other cars, and drove off, completely unaware he'd had a collision, even though he was now dragging a front wing!
I'm an old fart myself, and not that long ago was involved in a couple of minor near misses while driving. I had no choice but to conclude they had been largely my fault.
Within weeks - as I'd always promised myself I would - I'd surrendered my licence. If I've no other comfort these days, it's at least a certainty that I won't be hurting anyone because I'm still not too old to see sense.
I have elderly neighbours who continue to refuse to see sense. They imagine themselves superb drivers when they're scarcely even capable.
HGV and Psv drivers deserve the money I would like to see a train driver doing this would not last also they would not do the hours come in to the real world ASLEF and RMT.
My son was a truck driver but got out and is now a freight train driver. A truck driver can drive slowly in fog, snow in badly lit roads, etc while a train driver HAS to drive by the speeds set on any particular route. Diving at 70mph in the dark, in driving rain when you only have signals to go by is very stressful, given that it can take nearly a mile to stop at those speeds. Also he can't slow down when he passes through a crowded station knowing that at any moment a person may jump in front of his train. My son knows several other drivers who have experienced a suicide and it can take years to get over it. There's a lot more to driving a train than just pulling a controller.