just about to buy some second hand H&R coilovers for my mazda 6 this is great info as its my first set of coilovers, lets see how they deal with uk roads compared to my lowering springs
@@CliffjumperCars I sometimes track the car not all the time. By having the ability to have control over the rebound and compression is great. You make the ride feel so subtle and then add a ton of rebound to keep the nose under control at the track
@@maveric0738 Nice! I loved the adjustability on my old Koni's and would have kept those, if they'd actually rebuilt my originals and sent those back to me instead of sending me a brand new set of Mk3 shocks, which do not actually fit a Corrado (2" taller shock body height difference makes them bottom out). Strongly considering the KW's for my R32.
@@CliffjumperCars woah. Could you have sent them back Koni? Shame on their part for sending you the incorrect part! You won’t be disappointed in KW’s. Any more vids on the R32?
@@maveric0738 it was a whole fiasco. I offered to send them back and asked them specifically to have my original ones rebuilt and sent back to me, and they told me the originals had already been scrapped. Koni insisted that Mk3 parts fit the Mk2 without issue, but I was able to dig out their own 1995 catalog and show them that their own documentation stated there was a height difference, and that Mk3 VR6 shocks would not fit a VR6 Corrado. They ended up not being able to do anything for me. Major fail on the part of Koni. I sold the new Mk3 shocks they had sent me, and I bought these BFI Powerhaus coilovers to replace them.
Some coilovers use a set screw instead of a second locking ring to keep them in place, so in that case you would not need a second spanner, just the tool to unlock the one ring, and one spanner to adjust it. Otherwise you need the second spanner to open the two adjusting rings with counteractive force.
Correct me if im wrong. But since these dont have load adjusters. Are you not supposed to put load on the spring by adjust the rings UP to get the car lower and stiffer?
Because of the dead coils, adjusting the rings upward doesn't change the preload, but changes the starting geometry point. If you were to adjust the perches up so high that it compressed beyond the range of the dead coils, then yes, it would pass into preload, and begin going lower with a dramatically increased spring rate. However, the dead coils provide about 3" of adjustment before you hit that point.
How far can I extend the coilovers and still be safe. I need to raise the rear. So what's the thread overlap allowance on a 06 Impreza. Looks like I need to go up 4"
It's different from car to car. For fully threaded coilovers, you should be able to use the entire threaded area of adjustment. For ones that use only a threaded perch like Ground Control or something similar where the perch is also the coil retainer, I would not recommend raising it beyond the point you have at least half the threads engaged... but you should talk to the manufacturer of those coilovers to get specifics.
I want to buy H&R Mono-tube coilovers like your, but i have 1 consern, on the website it says that lowering is from 30-55mm, does that means that if u make my coilover as long as possible, will my car still be 30mm lower?? or it will be higher if i put it on max.....??????? Because I want to life it up for the winter....pls help me
You are correct, the maximum height those coilovers can get is 30mm lower than stock. That said, I've driven my R32 in the snow a couple of winters, it's 30mm lower than stock, and it's just fine in the snow.
@@the_steko you would need to find a different set of coilovers that have a greater adjustment range. There are some that in fact allow lifting higher than stock height, in addition to lowering. I'd recommend trying to find people that do overlander and baja builds on their vehicles to find out which models of coilovers work for your purpose. You can also reach out directly to the larger suspension manufacturers to ask specifically what model they have which will do what you want it to do. Koni and Bilstien are very responsive via email; I can't speak to other manufacturers but if you're wanting to go with H&R, reach out to them.
Wish you were my neighbour , good video and honest comments ! Professionals move on .lol top man .
Thanks!!
just about to buy some second hand H&R coilovers for my mazda 6 this is great info as its my first set of coilovers, lets see how they deal with uk roads compared to my lowering springs
Nice to see the VAGs stateside and thanks for the informative video. ⚔
Happy to help!
That’s why I went with KW V3’s for my R32.
Can you expand on that? Would love to hear why you went V3 over V2. Thanks!!
@@CliffjumperCars I sometimes track the car not all the time. By having the ability to have control over the rebound and compression is great. You make the ride feel so subtle and then add a ton of rebound to keep the nose under control at the track
@@maveric0738 Nice! I loved the adjustability on my old Koni's and would have kept those, if they'd actually rebuilt my originals and sent those back to me instead of sending me a brand new set of Mk3 shocks, which do not actually fit a Corrado (2" taller shock body height difference makes them bottom out). Strongly considering the KW's for my R32.
@@CliffjumperCars woah. Could you have sent them back Koni? Shame on their part for sending you the incorrect part! You won’t be disappointed in KW’s. Any more vids on the R32?
@@maveric0738 it was a whole fiasco. I offered to send them back and asked them specifically to have my original ones rebuilt and sent back to me, and they told me the originals had already been scrapped. Koni insisted that Mk3 parts fit the Mk2 without issue, but I was able to dig out their own 1995 catalog and show them that their own documentation stated there was a height difference, and that Mk3 VR6 shocks would not fit a VR6 Corrado. They ended up not being able to do anything for me. Major fail on the part of Koni. I sold the new Mk3 shocks they had sent me, and I bought these BFI Powerhaus coilovers to replace them.
Great job.
Thanks!
Thanks for the vid..
QQ please. I've just bought a car that came with just one spanner.. do I need 2 always?
Prosport coil overs
Some coilovers use a set screw instead of a second locking ring to keep them in place, so in that case you would not need a second spanner, just the tool to unlock the one ring, and one spanner to adjust it. Otherwise you need the second spanner to open the two adjusting rings with counteractive force.
Correct me if im wrong. But since these dont have load adjusters. Are you not supposed to put load on the spring by adjust the rings UP to get the car lower and stiffer?
Because of the dead coils, adjusting the rings upward doesn't change the preload, but changes the starting geometry point. If you were to adjust the perches up so high that it compressed beyond the range of the dead coils, then yes, it would pass into preload, and begin going lower with a dramatically increased spring rate. However, the dead coils provide about 3" of adjustment before you hit that point.
How far can I extend the coilovers and still be safe. I need to raise the rear. So what's the thread overlap allowance on a 06 Impreza. Looks like I need to go up 4"
It's different from car to car. For fully threaded coilovers, you should be able to use the entire threaded area of adjustment. For ones that use only a threaded perch like Ground Control or something similar where the perch is also the coil retainer, I would not recommend raising it beyond the point you have at least half the threads engaged... but you should talk to the manufacturer of those coilovers to get specifics.
Thanks
Happy to help!
I want to buy H&R Mono-tube coilovers like your, but i have 1 consern, on the website it says that lowering is from 30-55mm, does that means that if u make my coilover as long as possible, will my car still be 30mm lower?? or it will be higher if i put it on max.....??????? Because I want to life it up for the winter....pls help me
You are correct, the maximum height those coilovers can get is 30mm lower than stock. That said, I've driven my R32 in the snow a couple of winters, it's 30mm lower than stock, and it's just fine in the snow.
@@CliffjumperCars and how can i make it atleast the same hight?
@@the_steko you would need to find a different set of coilovers that have a greater adjustment range. There are some that in fact allow lifting higher than stock height, in addition to lowering. I'd recommend trying to find people that do overlander and baja builds on their vehicles to find out which models of coilovers work for your purpose. You can also reach out directly to the larger suspension manufacturers to ask specifically what model they have which will do what you want it to do. Koni and Bilstien are very responsive via email; I can't speak to other manufacturers but if you're wanting to go with H&R, reach out to them.
@@CliffjumperCars thank you