You're telling me you don't enjoy feeling like your well trained soldier has never handled a weapon before and like you're running around in wet cement?
@@eyeout I get what they were trying to do, but children with palsy would handle weapons better than the post ICO soldiers. In no world should any 5.56 rifle feel like an elephant gun after like 100m of sprinting
From personal experience, after sprinting even running with full kit, ACH, IOTV and battle belt I can tell you it feels exactly like walking through wet cement and with the adrenaline dump of CQC you loose fine motor function and get serious visual and audio occlusion. In the environment this game is set in it can be assumed that your character has been fighting for days with minimal sleep anyone who has had minimal sleeps knows everything feels like jelly and even thinking rationally is difficult.
Shots 1-5: Clearly missed. Shots 6-9: Missed due to recoil (bad spray control). Shots 10-11: Very close, but recoil and inaccuracy make these reasonable misses. Shot 12: Likely didn't actually fire because he was already dead.
Rewatch it at half speed and you’ll see that he didn’t die until shot 25-30. Also, the first shot was on his body and the subsequent 2nd would’ve landed as well. And poor recoil management is a built in game design of the ICO.
What are you talking about shots 1-5? His first burst was 3 rounds? If you’re going to try and dissect someone’s game play at least pay attention. Those couple of well placed bursts should have killed that guy a lot earlier. And he still won the gun fight!! He’s just expressing a problem with the games mechanics.
@@ralphedmund3565 Its a CSGO meme about a dev dissecting gameplay of Hiko (if i remember correctly) where he was literaly hugging the guy and still missed.
Ahahaha! I just watched your videos. Hilarious! Your proudest moment is of you sniping 2 people. The first one was standing still.🤣 Bro, my shots would have hit seeing as though the holo sight was right on his back with the first burst. But you took days to track that 2nd target running around on Tarkov. 🤣🥴
@@eyeout i just noticed that every comment that said you were bad you went too there profile to look at there vids, you dont have to take things so dam hard man. Your first burst hit like one shot you were aiming at his shoulder and you eventually killed him but overall your aim is potato, hes 13 meters and your needed a whole mag. That isnt the ico either cause even i can still kill that close with a marksmen rifle. its sad that your talking bad about my 400m headshots that i hit one through a tree and the other i snapped on.
@@timithylaurel3101 so you don’t like people criticizing your 1 video that shows the 2 best shots you’ve ever made, but you want to criticize mine showing a genuine problem with the games mechanics. I’ve got a lot of videos that show a lot “snappier” aim. The problem is that the game mechanics don’t act like someone holding a rifle. I actually own an AK47 with a red dot. Have you ever fired one? It is much easier to shoot up close than the game allows. Have you ever actually fired a weapon 400m away? I get that you’re a squad fanboy. I love the game as well, but there are serious problems with the CQB mechanics. So when fanboys reply with comments telling me I don’t know how to shoot someone in the back from 13m there’s a problem. As for video game aim…big dog, you did not snap onto that first guy. You swayed your way onto a guy that was standing still. And you had to shoot that 2nd guy through the tree because you got fidgety and started moving around. Don’t take it personal though.
If you watched in on your phone then he’s not visible. If you zoom in or watch it on a 32 inch curved 165hz monitor, you can see his head going left to right.
then his homie def killed ya. I don't find this messed up at all. BUT I only say that not for realism aspects. But to keep health realistic-ish without people being able to tank 8 shots and still slow down gameplay pace in a form this sorta was the only route able to go. Can only get so realistic lol@@eyeout
Dude, I watch it back at 50% playback and the problem seems to be the shots aren’t even landing where your reticle says until your stam is back. I’m not a pro…but I couldn’t have landed a better grouping with the first 2 bursts.
@@eyeoutit’s called reticle misalignment it happens all the time in real life and is why your shots only land right where your aiming when your perfectly still. People gotta realize that they are making the game FEEL realistic and immersive, not copying and modelling directly from real life as that would be boring af. Perfect realism in games if often not very fun. Don’t get me wrong they did study the optics for the update and honestly squad has the best replication of optics I’ve ever seen, and to me the smoothest and most satisfying gunplay on the market rn
@@idkgaming9818 a holographic sight is designed to be parallax free at ranges closer than 200 yards. That means that wherever that dot is, even in the fastest and least aligned positions, that’s where the bullet goes. That’s even if the red dot is not centered in the box of the holo sight. Also, my character had been laying down for a couple minutes I had literally just sprinted 20 yards, then walked a bit, then took a knee, waited for things to settle, then placed extremely accurate fire into the back of a target that was really close. I love this game…but I feel they went a little bit too far especially with regards to up close combat.
Biggest skill issue I have ever seen, number 1 you took way to long to shoot. If you watch it back your reticle was on his elbow and that's being nice, then he dissapears into the bushes becoming a spray fest, learn stam management and shotplacement. LMG punch yes big issue, vehicles yes big issue, you not being able to hit shots because your aim is low-key as, absolutley your problem
Its much less to do with “realism” and far more to do with slowing down gameplay, extending firefights and forcing people to work as teams and squads rather than running around like call of duty. In a video game its fucking easy to line up a reticle with a head from 200m and click. In real life you have adrenaline, fear, stress, fatigue, potentially shit in your eyes, confusion, atmospheric conditions, all things a video game cannot simulate. Agreed it’s frustrating situations like in this video but overall what other way can they stop 1 tap laser guns and fully auto rambo snipers? Its a fuckin game not real life, it never has been and never will be realistic and can only hope to make the gameplay feel like a team based tactical shooter
I feel you. It’ll never be fully realistic, but there has to be a balance between not laser if people at 200 yards right off the cuff and not being able to handle a weapon in a point blank scenario. I do think they strive for immersion which should try to be as realistic as possible. And when you have ridiculous gun fights which we’ve all had since the update, it sucks you out of the immersion.
@@eyeouti wouldnt be against that point firing mechanic they added to the ak-12 in the playtest (a toggle option would be better though). They have that on the game ready or not and it feels nice.
Finally someone that agrees with me, everyone sucking owi slong when it comes to the infantry overhaul. I can do some stuff around the range to get my heart pumping and amped up and I still land shots on target
I get it, it’s supposed to be a combat situation and game balancing but sheesh dude irl them dudes train for that shit I’m pretty they can do it no problem
@@HaloDude557 why 2 miles? Why not 3? 🥴🥴🥴🥴🤡 I can see that you’re triggered. No. I’m not going to film myself running 2 miles then firing a bill drill. You can find plenty of video of both military and non military personnel running the 20 meters that I stated from the video and firing at 15 meters and closer with ease.
@@HaloDude557 yeah 2 miles is for the Army… 3 is for the Marines. And I’m not posting videos of me working out so you can watch them in your Jack shack. This is really pathetic.
The first burst was at his waist which you hit the first shot but it was way too low to kill in one or two shots and you might of hit another but then it was just a spray fest when he went behind the bush in which you probably didn't hit shit for most of it because he could've just crouched or strafed out of the way just or you probably even skimmed his arms or legs like once or twice then you got a kill shot and he died. and before someone says you can't survive that many shots in squad in rare instances I have taken like 4-5 shots from 7.62 and was still standing. I'm not saying skill issue because it was in the moment but if you just placed your first shots higher you would've killed them.
It does appear that way on a phone at first glance. On my monitor, I could actually see him move left to right behind the bush. If you slow the video down and zoom in 5x you can see it. I agree. Had I shot him a little higher I may have had a better chance at ending the fight before it was a fight. I’m also not saying the game is broken. It just might need a little tweaking with regards to the CQB.
Really? I’ve made a lot of videos with different squad game play. Seems like this one became popular because people are searching for “Squad Combat Overhaul”. 1,200 of the 1,280 views came from people searching something like that. The videos where I’m praising the game and having fun got like 20-40 views. Maybe that’s what you like to consume…complaints.
Shots 1-5: Clearly missed. Shots 6-9: Missed due to recoil (bad spray control). Shots 10-11: Very close, but recoil and inaccuracy make these reasonable misses. Shot 12: Likely didn't actually fire because he was already dead.
@@zackbagnar9702 I’ve actually fired a full auto weapon a couple of times bro.🤣 Trust me, you wouldn’t want to be 13 meters away from me even with the 7.62x39 AK. Full auto is used in some CQB situations, which is what I was prepared for while tracking this guy. I actually don’t mind a lot of the ICO, but the CQB is broken and it has everything to do with the deviation dots that come together at the bottom.
@@eyeout It's almost like Realism in video games is meant to be fun and enjoyable and the phrase is used to mean "similar to real life" not a simulation of it, didnt see you rallying for armour classes and durability, Malfunctions, or sitting in a guard tower for 16hrs. Hey while we are at it, instead of deploying ground troops one team should play the civilians and the other, a drone team. Like bro your only experience in "war", is certifying yourself in firearms, that the exact same as a armchair general, saying he knows better, because he studied the art of war. In response to someone saying you dont know about war, you replied, Nuh uh, I got a gun certificate, like dude what? Gound Branch is a perfect example guns feel like guns because that the point of that game, this game is striving to be like a milsim, not pander to "milsim" sweats who have gun certifactes thinking they are the equivinalant to an actual soldier. If you have served than a lot of what I said is wrong, but if you havent, your jsut a grown man playing toy soldier, and crying about a games gun "Realism"
You're telling me you don't enjoy feeling like your well trained soldier has never handled a weapon before and like you're running around in wet cement?
And like I’m holding the weapon out with one hand.
@@eyeout I get what they were trying to do, but children with palsy would handle weapons better than the post ICO soldiers. In no world should any 5.56 rifle feel like an elephant gun after like 100m of sprinting
@@correctopinionhaver yeah, CQB shouldn’t result in 2 people emptying their magazines and no one dies.
From personal experience, after sprinting even running with full kit, ACH, IOTV and battle belt I can tell you it feels exactly like walking through wet cement and with the adrenaline dump of CQC you loose fine motor function and get serious visual and audio occlusion. In the environment this game is set in it can be assumed that your character has been fighting for days with minimal sleep anyone who has had minimal sleeps knows everything feels like jelly and even thinking rationally is difficult.
@@incognito6896 nah, for the sake of my argument…he just had hot chow and got to sleep in one of those sweet abandoned barracks.🤣
Shots 1-5: Clearly missed.
Shots 6-9: Missed due to recoil (bad spray control).
Shots 10-11: Very close, but recoil and inaccuracy make these reasonable misses.
Shot 12: Likely didn't actually fire because he was already dead.
Rewatch it at half speed and you’ll see that he didn’t die until shot 25-30.
Also, the first shot was on his body and the subsequent 2nd would’ve landed as well.
And poor recoil management is a built in game design of the ICO.
@@eyeout lol
What are you talking about shots 1-5? His first burst was 3 rounds? If you’re going to try and dissect someone’s game play at least pay attention.
Those couple of well placed bursts should have killed that guy a lot earlier. And he still won the gun fight!! He’s just expressing a problem with the games mechanics.
@@ralphedmund3565 fucking lol
@@ralphedmund3565 Its a CSGO meme about a dev dissecting gameplay of Hiko (if i remember correctly) where he was literaly hugging the guy and still missed.
BAD AIM MY GUY
Ahahaha! I just watched your videos. Hilarious! Your proudest moment is of you sniping 2 people. The first one was standing still.🤣
Bro, my shots would have hit seeing as though the holo sight was right on his back with the first burst. But you took days to track that 2nd target running around on Tarkov. 🤣🥴
@@eyeout i just noticed that every comment that said you were bad you went too there profile to look at there vids, you dont have to take things so dam hard man. Your first burst hit like one shot you were aiming at his shoulder and you eventually killed him but overall your aim is potato, hes 13 meters and your needed a whole mag. That isnt the ico either cause even i can still kill that close with a marksmen rifle. its sad that your talking bad about my 400m headshots that i hit one through a tree and the other i snapped on.
@@timithylaurel3101 so you don’t like people criticizing your 1 video that shows the 2 best shots you’ve ever made, but you want to criticize mine showing a genuine problem with the games mechanics. I’ve got a lot of videos that show a lot “snappier” aim. The problem is that the game mechanics don’t act like someone holding a rifle.
I actually own an AK47 with a red dot. Have you ever fired one? It is much easier to shoot up close than the game allows. Have you ever actually fired a weapon 400m away? I get that you’re a squad fanboy. I love the game as well, but there are serious problems with the CQB mechanics. So when fanboys reply with comments telling me I don’t know how to shoot someone in the back from 13m there’s a problem.
As for video game aim…big dog, you did not snap onto that first guy. You swayed your way onto a guy that was standing still. And you had to shoot that 2nd guy through the tree because you got fidgety and started moving around. Don’t take it personal though.
to be honest my brotha i think this is a skill issue moment. probably hit once on initial burst but hes not vis behind the bush.
If you watched in on your phone then he’s not visible. If you zoom in or watch it on a 32 inch curved 165hz monitor, you can see his head going left to right.
@@eyeout well unless he is displayed within some of the frames skipped when you uploaded the video? Monitor size and curve is irrelevant lmao.
@@eyeout and yes, i do see the left to right. probably barrel misalignment from bursting instead of waiting for reset.
@@eyeout and your game is running at like 45 fps 💀
@@stingyryy another issue…I run warzone at 110 to 140 fps. I’m sure it’s somehow my fault. It could never be the game.
your bad shot almost grazed his belly, git gud noob
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Do you do baby talk in real life, man? Girls don’t like that. You shouldn’t do that.
IDK MAN TELL THAT TO TARKOV PLAYERS
IDK man. These gamers got mighty touchy over a small example of CQB being a little broken. I don’t think I’m ready for the Tarkov sweats.
I personally like it. You def wounded him severally. He more than likely died right after you even if a medic started to touch him@@eyeout
@@acidpoptart4270 he’s dead on the other side of the bush.
then his homie def killed ya. I don't find this messed up at all. BUT I only say that not for realism aspects. But to keep health realistic-ish without people being able to tank 8 shots and still slow down gameplay pace in a form this sorta was the only route able to go. Can only get so realistic lol@@eyeout
True, i think devs never hold the weapon
Dude, I watch it back at 50% playback and the problem seems to be the shots aren’t even landing where your reticle says until your stam is back. I’m not a pro…but I couldn’t have landed a better grouping with the first 2 bursts.
@@eyeoutit’s called reticle misalignment it happens all the time in real life and is why your shots only land right where your aiming when your perfectly still. People gotta realize that they are making the game FEEL realistic and immersive, not copying and modelling directly from real life as that would be boring af. Perfect realism in games if often not very fun. Don’t get me wrong they did study the optics for the update and honestly squad has the best replication of optics I’ve ever seen, and to me the smoothest and most satisfying gunplay on the market rn
@@idkgaming9818 a holographic sight is designed to be parallax free at ranges closer than 200 yards. That means that wherever that dot is, even in the fastest and least aligned positions, that’s where the bullet goes. That’s even if the red dot is not centered in the box of the holo sight.
Also, my character had been laying down for a couple minutes I had literally just sprinted 20 yards, then walked a bit, then took a knee, waited for things to settle, then placed extremely accurate fire into the back of a target that was really close. I love this game…but I feel they went a little bit too far especially with regards to up close combat.
@@eyeout In a real situation unless you're in a building you would never use full auto, just like you see the scope would not align with the bullets.
@@triggereddonut9946 Oh shit where were you deployed and used said tactics?
Biggest skill issue I have ever seen, number 1 you took way to long to shoot. If you watch it back your reticle was on his elbow and that's being nice, then he dissapears into the bushes becoming a spray fest, learn stam management and shotplacement. LMG punch yes big issue, vehicles yes big issue, you not being able to hit shots because your aim is low-key as, absolutley your problem
Maybe dont suck so bad
Hmmm, I didn’t think about that!🤣
I slowed the video down to 50% and those were all good shots. Trust me, I know when I potato aim a situation.🤣
skill issue
Sure bud. All those shots would have landed had I just hip fired them like your counter strike video.🤣
@@HaloDude557 nice man. You sound like you’re a blast to be around.
@@HaloDude557 #1
Its much less to do with “realism” and far more to do with slowing down gameplay, extending firefights and forcing people to work as teams and squads rather than running around like call of duty.
In a video game its fucking easy to line up a reticle with a head from 200m and click. In real life you have adrenaline, fear, stress, fatigue, potentially shit in your eyes, confusion, atmospheric conditions, all things a video game cannot simulate.
Agreed it’s frustrating situations like in this video but overall what other way can they stop 1 tap laser guns and fully auto rambo snipers?
Its a fuckin game not real life, it never has been and never will be realistic and can only hope to make the gameplay feel like a team based tactical shooter
I feel you. It’ll never be fully realistic, but there has to be a balance between not laser if people at 200 yards right off the cuff and not being able to handle a weapon in a point blank scenario.
I do think they strive for immersion which should try to be as realistic as possible. And when you have ridiculous gun fights which we’ve all had since the update, it sucks you out of the immersion.
@@eyeouti wouldnt be against that point firing mechanic they added to the ak-12 in the playtest (a toggle option would be better though). They have that on the game ready or not and it feels nice.
Finally someone that agrees with me, everyone sucking owi slong when it comes to the infantry overhaul. I can do some stuff around the range to get my heart pumping and amped up and I still land shots on target
I get it, it’s supposed to be a combat situation and game balancing but sheesh dude irl them dudes train for that shit I’m pretty they can do it no problem
I know, right?
I had just been laying down for a minute and saw that guy pass. I got up and ran 20 meters right before the video started.
@@HaloDude557 why 2 miles? Why not 3? 🥴🥴🥴🥴🤡
I can see that you’re triggered. No. I’m not going to film myself running 2 miles then firing a bill drill. You can find plenty of video of both military and non military personnel running the 20 meters that I stated from the video and firing at 15 meters and closer with ease.
@@HaloDude557 yeah 2 miles is for the Army…
3 is for the Marines.
And I’m not posting videos of me working out so you can watch them in your Jack shack. This is really pathetic.
Yeah they overdid it big time, your player acts like a toddler shooting a 12g for the first time
Skill issue
The first burst was at his waist which you hit the first shot but it was way too low to kill in one or two shots and you might of hit another but then it was just a spray fest when he went behind the bush in which you probably didn't hit shit for most of it because he could've just crouched or strafed out of the way just or you probably even skimmed his arms or legs like once or twice then you got a kill shot and he died. and before someone says you can't survive that many shots in squad in rare instances I have taken like 4-5 shots from 7.62 and was still standing. I'm not saying skill issue because it was in the moment but if you just placed your first shots higher you would've killed them.
It does appear that way on a phone at first glance. On my monitor, I could actually see him move left to right behind the bush. If you slow the video down and zoom in 5x you can see it.
I agree. Had I shot him a little higher I may have had a better chance at ending the fight before it was a fight.
I’m also not saying the game is broken. It just might need a little tweaking with regards to the CQB.
all people do is complain, play a different game if you hate it that much, learn sway control if you wanna keep playing squad
Really? I’ve made a lot of videos with different squad game play. Seems like this one became popular because people are searching for “Squad Combat Overhaul”. 1,200 of the 1,280 views came from people searching something like that.
The videos where I’m praising the game and having fun got like 20-40 views. Maybe that’s what you like to consume…complaints.
Here you go man.
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Play MEE modded servers. You get better weapons plus no bullshit sway.
Shots 1-5: Clearly missed.
Shots 6-9: Missed due to recoil (bad spray control).
Shots 10-11: Very close, but recoil and inaccuracy make these reasonable misses.
Shot 12: Likely didn't actually fire because he was already dead.
skill issue
Another fanboy that can’t admit his game might have a problem.
@@eyeout this game is easier now after the ico you just cant use full auto accuratly just like in real life
@@zackbagnar9702 I’ve actually fired a full auto weapon a couple of times bro.🤣
Trust me, you wouldn’t want to be 13 meters away from me even with the 7.62x39 AK. Full auto is used in some CQB situations, which is what I was prepared for while tracking this guy.
I actually don’t mind a lot of the ICO, but the CQB is broken and it has everything to do with the deviation dots that come together at the bottom.
@@eyeout It's almost like Realism in video games is meant to be fun and enjoyable and the phrase is used to mean "similar to real life" not a simulation of it, didnt see you rallying for armour classes and durability, Malfunctions, or sitting in a guard tower for 16hrs. Hey while we are at it, instead of deploying ground troops one team should play the civilians and the other, a drone team. Like bro your only experience in "war", is certifying yourself in firearms, that the exact same as a armchair general, saying he knows better, because he studied the art of war. In response to someone saying you dont know about war, you replied, Nuh uh, I got a gun certificate, like dude what? Gound Branch is a perfect example guns feel like guns because that the point of that game, this game is striving to be like a milsim, not pander to "milsim" sweats who have gun certifactes thinking they are the equivinalant to an actual soldier. If you have served than a lot of what I said is wrong, but if you havent, your jsut a grown man playing toy soldier, and crying about a games gun "Realism"
@@desraek6653 yes I got those qualifications in the Marine Corps. Did you serve?