@@erictaylor5462 Shakespeare is highly quoted. Probably, only the Bible is quoted more in English. I think they were just explaining the reference in case she didn’t recognize the source.
The episodes that involve The Doctor visiting some famous artist in the past always get to me. And The Doctor is right about his books, A Christmas Carol has never been out of print since it's release. Released in 1843, 181 years ago, and it's never been out of print (to say nothing of all the adaptations and iterations of it that exist). Never forgotten indeed. And The Mystery of Edwin Drood is another novel by Dickens that remains unfinished, as he died before it could be finished.
Also, in the U.S., Great Expectations is taught to the students in every public high school and Oliver Twist was the inspiration for a popular musical.
@@bigdream_dreambig And “A Tale of Two Cities” is quoted/referenced from time to time in popular culture (e.g. in "Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan” and in “The Dark Knight Rises").
@@bigdream_dreambig There are quite a few articles available online about how “A Tale of Two Cities” influenced “Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan” & “The Dark Knight Rises", but for some reason I’m unable to embed links to them here. I’m too lazy to write a complete essay covering all that same material, so I'll leave it to you to do your own online search if you’re interested in a detailed review of the topic. All I’ll say here is that at its core, “A Tale of Two Cities” is a story about a man sacrificing himself for the greater good. Similarly, “The Wrath of Khan” is a story about a man (Spock) sacrificing himself to save The Enterprise and his comrades. Early in the film, Spock gives Kirk a copy of “A Tale of Two Cities” as a birthday present, and Kirk reads aloud the “It was the best of times, it was the worst of times” line from the book. Following Spock’s sacrifice, Kirk quotes the "It is a far, far better thing I do than I have ever done before” line from the book. In “The Dark Knight Rises”, social unrest and class violence mirror the revolutionary upheaval that drives “A Tale of Two Cities”. And in this film Batman (seemingly) sacrifices himself for the greater good, and Commissioner Gordon quotes the "It is a far, far better thing” line following that sacrifice.
You hit the nail on the head, in Doctor Who you can go not only anywhere but also to anywhen, the only thing limiting the writers is their own imagination, and yours
19:45 Mostly. Sort of. There are a few threads running through the season, hints being dropped that pertain to a larger back story, as well as drawing the characters along a plot arc. There was a phrase dropped in this episode that was also dropped in the previous episode... a little tasty breadcrumb....
Dr Who does not follow the usual timeline you find in other TV series, like in "The Sopranos". Because Dr Who can skip forwards and backwards through time and space, each episode can be watched stand-alone from all the episodes before or after. That said, following Dr Who is linear in that, so long as you watch the show in order, anything you learn has the potential to resurface in later episodes. That includes tech development, customs, relationships, and specific recurring characters. Recurring characters may or may not be played by the originating actor or one that resembles the original actor, but they could still recur. If something from a previous storyline shows up in a later episode, usually there is some exposition to remind or explain what has recurred. I could give you examples, but every example I could give you is at present a spoiler for future episodes, so you just have to trust that the format of this show is very different from anything else you have even watched. You have brought up some really good questions about things like 'changing history', but I can't even explain that to you (it does get covered in the course of the show; be patient and just enjoy the ride). There is a reason this franchise has been so successful for so long (over 60 years!); it's because it is so unique and so inventive, and the stories resolve (or don't) in such unexpected ways. This is a show that really makes you think in so many directions at once.
While the show tends to be episodic, in later series they tie together a bit into stories that last 1000yrs or so - they are somehow pretty cerebral and satisfying to adults, while kids have no trouble keeping up. It’s a clever show. Glad you are feeling better
I love that Nary saw the biggest issue with traveling back to these times in fiction. If you don’t present as high born or belong to the majority of that land you’re in for an uncomfortable trip. Assuming the diseases of the time don’t kill you outright.
I hope that you get well soon. I don't remember my mother ever being sick when, as a child, I was ill. I only realize now that she probably was ill too and that she just hid it well. Mothers. Ms. Mary, I'm glad to join you for another Doctor Who episode. Believe me, the stories just keep getting better and better.
14:30 Yes and no ! The rules are complex. There are exceptions and exceptions to the exceptions. Only the Doctor really knows the answer to such questions as he can see the time flux. But, since he was not concerened for Rose here, he knew she would not have faded away even if they changed the future so her parents never met. He is loyal to his companions. One thing it is not is like Back to the Future. Different rules apply to time travelers in the Doctor Who universe - especially when traveling in the Tardis.
Kyle Reece died in 1984, though he was born in 2009. Kyle Reece was in fact 25 years YOUNGER than his son. This means there is a possibility that John Conner could have slept with Kyle's mother, gotten her pregnant with the baby that would become Kyle Reece, meaning the father of Kyle Reece is his son, John Conner.
@junipetta1595 It does. It also helps that Peter and Pearl are brilliant on it. I quite enjoy it, but I think it's a more divisive episode than this one.
Sorry that you've been feeling well. I've heard from a lot of people being sick over the holiday season.... all over. Perhaps Christmas is simply getting far too stressful. I do hope you keep watching Doctor Who. It is quite entertaining for quite a while.
Here in the states that Norovirus as really been breaking out. Highly contagious. I wonder if you guys are coming down with some sort of flu strain as well. Anyways I'm glad your better and I've really been enjoying your Dr Who reactions. TY :)
There is a subtle storyline though out the series but yes there are a few two parters in each series also .we meet a lot of historical figures in Who .
I don't think it is a spoiler to say you are mistaken. Although it may seem that you can get a complete story in one episode (sometimes two) there actually is ALSO an overriding story arch over the series. It may not always be apparent, but the clues are there and you will begin to notice them the more you watch.
Would love to see you do “Austin Powers 2 and 3” since you laughed so much at the 1st. As a dad of 3 amazing Daughters I understand bieng sick with your babies, when any of my babies get sick from school and come home , their sisters and I end up with it every time. Hope you get feeling better!
Some people in English will substitute Dickens in place of God in things like "God Knows" becoming Dickens knows. And also there is, "You scared the Dickens out of me."
i dont know were u watch doctor who mary but be aware that there are special episodes like chrismas specials witch are often not part of a season but very important
The second after you said 'he looks like a dog that did something wrong' I was treated to a dog food advert. The one with the Irish guy talking about his pickey eater dog.
The issue is simply that people really do not educate themselves on what does or does not constitute a spoiler and therefore overreact and claim that everything was one.
@michaelklaus Clips that show the enemies of next week, that show guest stars, that show returning characters... These are all spoilers. If you're watching week-to-week, it may be interesting to be teased with it, but for a reactor they're death of reactions. In the classic show, even the show titles were spoilers, with the actual episodes obviously set up for a shocking introduction that had already been rendered unshocking. New Who does that sometimes, but it's got much better at leading people astray with titles.
Your definition of spoilers is subjective and only like 15 years old. I remember watching trailers for Empire Strikes back. And it told us the rebels were on a snow planet, Han and Leia had a romance, Luke would go to a swamp planet, and tjere was a city in the clouds, and theyd meet a freind of Hans, and Luke would fight Vader. We didn't cry about "spoilers" cuz that's just the shape of the story. The only real spoilers were Vader was Luke's dad, and the weird little guy was yoda. You people are way to sensitive and crybabyish.
You seemed surprised by "oi". That's a very British thing. It's basically "hey!" but more aggressive. If you think of "hey" as being "I take offence to that", "oi" is more "Pay attention to be because I object to that and you're going to stop doing it".
MOST stories are stand-alone. There's a fair few that are two-parters (and even a couple of three-parters, but those are pretty rare). And when you say there's no season-long arcs... um. Well. That's... not ENTIRELY true.
It's a fun show, that can go literal in any direction and that's so awesome. You will love this show, it grows on you season by season. Veel beterschap.
It used to be the RULE that series television was composed of completely self-contained episodes rather than overall season archs. I'm very much appreciating the rise of the continuing story model but when I was growing up that wasn't the way it was done. Having said that, watch and listen for clues in each and every episode.
@@Cheepchipsable Not a rule in the sense that they were REQUIRED to do so - rule as in that's how series were typically done in the 60s and 70s. A series that had a longer arc would very much be the exception.
Mary, the weirdoes are out again. I haven't seen a single preview that contained relevant plot points of the next episodes. So if you want to watch those to hype yourself up, that is up to you. If you want to go in completely blind that is also okay. But they are not full of spoilers as those few claim.
dr who is better when it odesnt have interconnected stories. mostly they havent worked. aside from the key to time series. most of the latter producers messed things up, and got too dramatic.
I enjoy your reactions since Firefly and still feel guilty being 1 of those that recommended Band of Brothers. I forgot if I already told you Dr. Who basically guarantees at least 1 excellent episode per season. A handful of better than average episodes, and a few absolute stinkers. Before it got openly woke, it got bad, but that is way way way in the future. Feel free to give up on it when you start banging your head into a wall. :)
Not sure what you mean by several seasons. I've seen the show from Eccleston through all of the Tennant era, and it's all been very good so far, only have watched a couple of Matt Smith episodes, and liking them fine, even if he's not quite as superlative as Dave was. How many is "several seasons"? Cuz I've liked what I've seen so far ...
@@rexmundi2986 I started watching when I was 10 way back, (5th Doctor was my first and I'm the same age as Tennant) and later, my kids started watching this show and now three of them are married and we all still watch and love this show. It's the perfect family show for geeks. Yeah, not every episode is gold, but that's never been with Doctor Who. There always was controverse. But, as seeing so many new reactors, who are now several seasons ahead, they all love this show so maybe it's something with this person, they probably never had a Whovian soul in the first place.
“There are more things in Heaven and Earth …” is a quote from Shakespeare’s Hamlet.
What the Shakespeare! She missed that joke?
So Dicken's can't quote Shakespeare?
@@erictaylor5462 "Can't, that's someone else's." If you get the reference... although it's a bit timey wimey
@@erictaylor5462 Why couldn't he?
@@erictaylor5462
Shakespeare is highly quoted. Probably, only the Bible is quoted more in English.
I think they were just explaining the reference in case she didn’t recognize the source.
I love a happy medium.
Glad you're enjoying the journey, and hope you continue to feel better!
Charles Dickens performing A Christmas Carol with ghosts at Christmas. What’s not to love?
Noddy, in Toytown, with Big Ears?
The episodes that involve The Doctor visiting some famous artist in the past always get to me. And The Doctor is right about his books, A Christmas Carol has never been out of print since it's release. Released in 1843, 181 years ago, and it's never been out of print (to say nothing of all the adaptations and iterations of it that exist). Never forgotten indeed.
And The Mystery of Edwin Drood is another novel by Dickens that remains unfinished, as he died before it could be finished.
Also, in the U.S., Great Expectations is taught to the students in every public high school and Oliver Twist was the inspiration for a popular musical.
@@bigdream_dreambig And “A Tale of Two Cities” is quoted/referenced from time to time in popular culture (e.g. in "Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan” and in “The Dark Knight Rises").
@@robertstallings7820 What were the references?
@@bigdream_dreambig There are quite a few articles available online about how “A Tale of Two Cities” influenced “Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan” & “The Dark Knight Rises", but for some reason I’m unable to embed links to them here. I’m too lazy to write a complete essay covering all that same material, so I'll leave it to you to do your own online search if you’re interested in a detailed review of the topic. All I’ll say here is that at its core, “A Tale of Two Cities” is a story about a man sacrificing himself for the greater good. Similarly, “The Wrath of Khan” is a story about a man (Spock) sacrificing himself to save The Enterprise and his comrades. Early in the film, Spock gives Kirk a copy of “A Tale of Two Cities” as a birthday present, and Kirk reads aloud the “It was the best of times, it was the worst of times” line from the book. Following Spock’s sacrifice, Kirk quotes the "It is a far, far better thing I do than I have ever done before” line from the book. In “The Dark Knight Rises”, social unrest and class violence mirror the revolutionary upheaval that drives “A Tale of Two Cities”. And in this film Batman (seemingly) sacrifices himself for the greater good, and Commissioner Gordon quotes the "It is a far, far better thing” line following that sacrifice.
@@robertstallings7820 Thank you!
You hit the nail on the head, in Doctor Who you can go not only anywhere but also to anywhen, the only thing limiting the writers is their own imagination, and yours
19:45 Mostly. Sort of. There are a few threads running through the season, hints being dropped that pertain to a larger back story, as well as drawing the characters along a plot arc. There was a phrase dropped in this episode that was also dropped in the previous episode... a little tasty breadcrumb....
Dr Who does not follow the usual timeline you find in other TV series, like in "The Sopranos".
Because Dr Who can skip forwards and backwards through time and space, each episode can be watched stand-alone from all the episodes before or after.
That said, following Dr Who is linear in that, so long as you watch the show in order, anything you learn has the potential to resurface in later episodes. That includes tech development, customs, relationships, and specific recurring characters. Recurring characters may or may not be played by the originating actor or one that resembles the original actor, but they could still recur.
If something from a previous storyline shows up in a later episode, usually there is some exposition to remind or explain what has recurred. I could give you examples, but every example I could give you is at present a spoiler for future episodes, so you just have to trust that the format of this show is very different from anything else you have even watched. You have brought up some really good questions about things like 'changing history', but I can't even explain that to you (it does get covered in the course of the show; be patient and just enjoy the ride).
There is a reason this franchise has been so successful for so long (over 60 years!); it's because it is so unique and so inventive, and the stories resolve (or don't) in such unexpected ways. This is a show that really makes you think in so many directions at once.
While the show tends to be episodic, in later series they tie together a bit into stories that last 1000yrs or so - they are somehow pretty cerebral and satisfying to adults, while kids have no trouble keeping up. It’s a clever show. Glad you are feeling better
Love that you're enjoying this series, Mary.
Keep having fun!
Welcome to the Greatness that is Eve Myles.
Holy glaze
I love that Nary saw the biggest issue with traveling back to these times in fiction. If you don’t present as high born or belong to the majority of that land you’re in for an uncomfortable trip. Assuming the diseases of the time don’t kill you outright.
Glad you're feeling better!
The house I grew up in was over 100 years old. It's almost guaranteed that at least one person died in it.
I'm glad you're feeling better, Mary! ⏳
I hope that you get well soon. I don't remember my mother ever being sick when, as a child, I was ill. I only realize now that she probably was ill too and that she just hid it well. Mothers.
Ms. Mary, I'm glad to join you for another Doctor Who episode. Believe me, the stories just keep getting better and better.
The next two are pretty bad, but they definitely get better after that.
@@katebuckley7263 You're probably right. I haven't seen season one in a long time. I'm remembering it too fondly.
You began Dr Who and I didn't even notice it??!!!
Awesome, it's one of the best series ever. Can't wait to follow you in this.
14:30 Yes and no ! The rules are complex. There are exceptions and exceptions to the exceptions. Only the Doctor really knows the answer to such questions as he can see the time flux. But, since he was not concerened for Rose here, he knew she would not have faded away even if they changed the future so her parents never met. He is loyal to his companions. One thing it is not is like Back to the Future. Different rules apply to time travelers in the Doctor Who universe - especially when traveling in the Tardis.
lol, the rules are written in chalk. 🤣
@@Cheepchipsable “… more what you’d call guidelines than actual rules.” - Captain Hector Barbossa
Kyle Reece died in 1984, though he was born in 2009.
Kyle Reece was in fact 25 years YOUNGER than his son. This means there is a possibility that John Conner could have slept with Kyle's mother, gotten her pregnant with the baby that would become Kyle Reece, meaning the father of Kyle Reece is his son, John Conner.
great reaction. yay more Doctor Who
Mark Gatiss' best episode, easily. Really the first classic of modern Who in my book.
Agreed. It's a rather underrated story, but I love it.
i rather like empress of mars too, but it’s got far more of a classic who vibe
@junipetta1595 It does. It also helps that Peter and Pearl are brilliant on it. I quite enjoy it, but I think it's a more divisive episode than this one.
@@junipetta1595 They are definitely his best two. It's a shame that he's a great writer and a great actor but his Doctor Who is so hit and miss.
What ever you got I got is been horrible for the past month and my car battery died so December was not fun, glad you are back I love your content
greetings from Vancouver Island, very much enjoying watching you, enjoy. Great work as always Mari, thanks .
Sorry that you've been feeling well. I've heard from a lot of people being sick over the holiday season.... all over. Perhaps Christmas is simply getting far too stressful. I do hope you keep watching Doctor Who. It is quite entertaining for quite a while.
Bedankt
Here in the states that Norovirus as really been breaking out. Highly contagious. I wonder if you guys are coming down with some sort of flu strain as well. Anyways I'm glad your better and I've really been enjoying your Dr Who reactions. TY :)
There is a subtle storyline though out the series but yes there are a few two parters in each series also .we meet a lot of historical figures in Who .
Also are you my mommy?
Thanks! I can't do Patreon sorry.
I don't think it is a spoiler to say you are mistaken. Although it may seem that you can get a complete story in one episode (sometimes two) there actually is ALSO an overriding story arch over the series. It may not always be apparent, but the clues are there and you will begin to notice them the more you watch.
hope 🙏🙏🙏 you and your family will STAY feeling better 🙏🙏🙏 enjoyed your reaction 👍☺
One word........ TORCHWOOD !!!
Would love to see you do “Austin Powers 2 and 3” since you laughed so much at the 1st. As a dad of 3 amazing Daughters I understand bieng sick with your babies, when any of my babies get sick from school and come home , their sisters and I end up with it every time. Hope you get feeling better!
The doctor- who format has worked for decades.
Good point
Welcome back aftercyour break. Yayy!! .
Some people in English will substitute Dickens in place of God in things like "God Knows" becoming Dickens knows.
And also there is, "You scared the Dickens out of me."
If you like musicals, you should find a local theater that's putting on the play "The Mystery of Edwin Drood".
There is an arc, but it's subtly alluded to so far. Enjoy the rest yet to come
I guess this episode is much more engaging if you're at least familiar with A Chrismas Carol..
i am so excited waiting for the new reactions to doctor who. 🥰
makes me sad looking back at how superior these older episodes were.
i dont know were u watch doctor who mary but be aware that there are special episodes like chrismas specials witch are often not part of a season but very important
GNU Gwyneth. You were one hell of a woman, strong and kind.
The second after you said 'he looks like a dog that did something wrong' I was treated to a dog food advert. The one with the Irish guy talking about his pickey eater dog.
You managed to drink from your TARDIS mug without it running down your chin! 😮
Impressive 🍺😎👍
I´m afraid of the Big Bad Wolf... 😱
again, i wish i could watch doctor who for the first time
Reminder to not watch the "next week" previews, they're full of spoilers.
The issue is simply that people really do not educate themselves on what does or does not constitute a spoiler and therefore overreact and claim that everything was one.
@michaelklaus Clips that show the enemies of next week, that show guest stars, that show returning characters... These are all spoilers. If you're watching week-to-week, it may be interesting to be teased with it, but for a reactor they're death of reactions. In the classic show, even the show titles were spoilers, with the actual episodes obviously set up for a shocking introduction that had already been rendered unshocking. New Who does that sometimes, but it's got much better at leading people astray with titles.
Your definition of spoilers is subjective and only like 15 years old. I remember watching trailers for Empire Strikes back. And it told us the rebels were on a snow planet, Han and Leia had a romance, Luke would go to a swamp planet, and tjere was a city in the clouds, and theyd meet a freind of Hans, and Luke would fight Vader. We didn't cry about "spoilers" cuz that's just the shape of the story. The only real spoilers were Vader was Luke's dad, and the weird little guy was yoda. You people are way to sensitive and crybabyish.
The thumbnail reminds me of The Lady killers. A Coen Bros movie with Tom Hanks.
Which is a remake of a 1955 version starring Alec Guinness
@Cheepchipsable we should ask her to watch it.
You seemed surprised by "oi". That's a very British thing. It's basically "hey!" but more aggressive. If you think of "hey" as being "I take offence to that", "oi" is more "Pay attention to be because I object to that and you're going to stop doing it".
There will be some story archs. It's not totally new in every episode.
i never stood next to a coffin so i never had the thoughts xD
I think you might like Quantum Leap.
😂 Young person marvels at the concept of episodic television 😆
I think it's about the circumstances of how someone died in a home.
MOST stories are stand-alone. There's a fair few that are two-parters (and even a couple of three-parters, but those are pretty rare). And when you say there's no season-long arcs... um. Well. That's... not ENTIRELY true.
Some arcs last years. Well and even continue stories from the 70s
But to your point the episodes are so distinct that you can tell a fan the episode name and they know what you're taking about
bad wolf is in the BG?
We should start a partition that one day a year, we honour Gwinneth for her sacrifice.
Let's make it Dec 25th. I'm already seeing the family that day so it'll kill 2 birds with one stone 😄
It's a fun show, that can go literal in any direction and that's so awesome. You will love this show, it grows on you season by season.
Veel beterschap.
Separate story lines but there is usually a theme or season arc... you've clearly not spotted the clues yet.....
Well, Dickens dies in June, so he at least has 6 months of life to live.
It used to be the RULE that series television was composed of completely self-contained episodes rather than overall season archs. I'm very much appreciating the rise of the continuing story model but when I was growing up that wasn't the way it was done. Having said that, watch and listen for clues in each and every episode.
Umm, ok, when was this? Never heard of this "rule" at all.
@@Cheepchipsable Not a rule in the sense that they were REQUIRED to do so - rule as in that's how series were typically done in the 60s and 70s. A series that had a longer arc would very much be the exception.
Please be careful with the 'on next episode'. Spoilers
You should turn off the episode at the wtart of the credits as they show spoilers i think i mentioned this also get well soon.
Oh, the season long overarching story lines are coming. And I can't wait.
Mary, the weirdoes are out again. I haven't seen a single preview that contained relevant plot points of the next episodes. So if you want to watch those to hype yourself up, that is up to you. If you want to go in completely blind that is also okay. But they are not full of spoilers as those few claim.
And to those of you who disagree: learn to differentiate between relevant plot elements and rhe premise of a story. Thank you
dr who is better when it odesnt have interconnected stories. mostly they havent worked. aside from the key to time series. most of the latter producers messed things up, and got too dramatic.
I enjoy your reactions since Firefly and still feel guilty being 1 of those that recommended Band of Brothers. I forgot if I already told you Dr. Who basically guarantees at least 1 excellent episode per season. A handful of better than average episodes, and a few absolute stinkers. Before it got openly woke, it got bad, but that is way way way in the future. Feel free to give up on it when you start banging your head into a wall. :)
Please continue with Star Trek.
Don’t get too attached to this, after several seasons it becomes unwatchable.
Not sure what you mean by several seasons. I've seen the show from Eccleston through all of the Tennant era, and it's all been very good so far, only have watched a couple of Matt Smith episodes, and liking them fine, even if he's not quite as superlative as Dave was. How many is "several seasons"? Cuz I've liked what I've seen so far ...
@@rexmundi2986 I started watching when I was 10 way back, (5th Doctor was my first and I'm the same age as Tennant) and later, my kids started watching this show and now three of them are married and we all still watch and love this show. It's the perfect family show for geeks. Yeah, not every episode is gold, but that's never been with Doctor Who. There always was controverse. But, as seeing so many new reactors, who are now several seasons ahead, they all love this show so maybe it's something with this person, they probably never had a Whovian soul in the first place.
Yeah, I also started watching way back, Tom Baker was my doctor, just getting acquainted with the new era stuff.
@@rexmundi2986 so that's just a story all about you and why you liked it
@@channyh.221B "Channy H" no content - full of spellng mistakes
I'm so excited knowing that the episode called "Blink" is next. 🫣