Did I just replace my Lotus with an Old Porsche 911?
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 11 ก.ค. 2024
- I sold my Evora, and now I'm driving this 911 around - what happened exactly? Don't I hate 911s?
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Dammit 996's are gonna be 50k+ before I can afford one with everyone realizing they're 911's too
I hope so. It's time they got some lovin'
seriously i just in the past 6 months discovered how great porsches are and as I do they are all sky rocketing, everyones all of a sudden jumping on 996's and even the transaxle front engined cars of the 80's and 90's
@@treyquattro Well lemme get my lovin' in before there's no more to take my lovin'.
I got my 02 C2 7 months ago.
Nah. They made 175k of them, so I think you'll be ok for a long time. I wish you were right. I might make some money on mine that way. But it aint happening
Hoovies Garage showed off his 996 yesterday, now JayEmm today. I wonder who'll announce they got one tomorrow
Goddamnit Hoovie
I can't respect that guy after buying the broken RR
996s will get more expensive any minute now :D
Mat Watson of Carwow and Jethro Bovingdon of wherever he is now - Road & Track? - are both 996 owners
Jethro's is very similar to my old 996
I did the opposite, swapped a 996 for a Lotus. The 911 bored me to tears, which was a shame as I'd wanted on since I was a kid. It was decent car, but it just didn't bring a smile to my face like the Lotus did.
The 996 and its derivatives is in reality a 928 successor with - almost - all grand touring capabilities of the 928 but with a mechanical layout that is aping that of the 911. When Porsche understood that most 911 customers they wanted the style (but not the substance) of the 911 and the luxuries of the 928 the 911 was dead and buried.
I did the same, j606ywt. C2 wasn't boring, but the engine cylinders probably were :-)
@@EvoraGT430 4wd porsche are boring they are meant to be 2wd!! th-cam.com/video/3pGFG8YBjjs/w-d-xo.html
Love your 911 James and I love the look of the spoiler ! Hope you enjoy it while you own it and I'm looking forward to seeing more video's on the car.
Thanks Ryan
Was never a fan of Porsche. Thought they were overrated and for everyone who got their 1st city job promotion/bonus car...until a good friend took me in his 2017 GT3. Mind blown. Would love to get behind the wheel of one! Hope you enjoy the car, can't wait for more videos!
Cheers!
are you mad, audi holds the title of 1st decent job dickheads.
Nice, keep coming back to looking at 996.... I keep thinking I need to pull the trigger before they start to climb in value.
I like it a lot. I also have a soft spot for Porsches of this generation. I’ve come really close a couple of times to getting one. I will someday. Not just yet, but not long. Really looking forward to content on both this car and the one you’re getting soon!
Glad this isn’t the final replacement! Intrigued on what you have got! Such a shame the Evora had to go but needs must after all
Good looking car the 996 C4S nice choice 👍
The Porsche has more character, no question!
Sweet little part ex there mate. My old boss told me to park his when I was about 22. Won't forget that day!
The 996 has always been a great (driver's) car. The Porschephiles who complained about the headlights make the word "Porschephile" a bad thing, and I always thought they were a) stupid and b) didn't know what they were talking about. OK, it does look like a 986 Box from the front which is obviously horrendous if you worry that your non-petrolhead friend thinks your 80K 911 (back then) is a 40K Boxster (back then). I hope they are happy with round headlights because the light, performant 996 is still one of the best (driver's) cars in the range, even with GT-1 style "fried egg" headlights which I like (exactly because they're reminiscent of a GT-1, although it's a bit of a chicken-and-fried-egg situation, if you will). But some people only care about impressing their neighbors and resale value (which, admittedly, is not a bad thing to have, but way way way down on the list of concerns for people who buy 911s to drive, not appreciate financially).
Well said. I own a 04C4s cab I bought from the original owner with 104,000. I've put another 15K miles and it's still running strong. Forget the BS from the few and enjoy the ride. It's great!
Nice car Jay! Thanks for the video.
So. Gets Elise and Evora 400. Spends 2 years ranting about people always choosing a 911 and how you should really consider a Lotus. Sell said Lotus for a 911.
Yeah that about sums up Lotus’s problem right there. 😂
djbrianc I miss the attention the Evora got but in some ways it is nice to have something fairly plain looking
Reliable, mid-engine, hydraulic steering, light, great-looking, rare, manual, and convertible. Seems like the perfect next car for you is a 987 Boxster Spyder. It's lighter than any current porsche at just 1270 kg (lighter than evora) and has a detuned 911 engine in it. A simple tune can net you another 40-50 HP too.
Attention? Little boys between 7 and 45 making you nervous? I've never seen a girl look twice at a Lotus, but this is Zurich.
Exactly, there's good attention ("lovely car, mate" and smiles) and there's bad attentions (aggression and coffee-grinder waves). First is the Lotus, second is a Porsche.
JayEmm on Cars yeah. My Elise and 4c Spider can be maddening the attention they get. And not always good. People are getting pushy. Demanding rides, wanting sit in without asking. Just this past summer while at the car wash, no cash mind you on my lunch brake, some guy eh um, bloke asked for money and when I replied I had none, he took me to task for having 4c but no money for him. Really! Like I owed him.
I'm glad it's not just me that loves the 996 generation. What a great sale by the sound of things, sell the Lotus to someone local without going through the hassle of advertising it and dealing with all the idiots asking 'wots the lowest you'll take m8'. Bonus being able to drive around in a 911 in the interim and some more video content - win win!
That's exactly what I thought!
Got a real soft spot for these. Would love to tick it off the list in the future. Shame i can’t afford one now though 😂
Enjoy the 996. That's a good one. Still looking forward to seeing what's going to be replacing your Evora 400!
I was out this evening filming THAT video
Good choice I had a 996 in seal grey and black leather, best combo in my opinion , once you have a Porche you will always venture back . Best backend on any 911 and aslo I like the front, hope you got the cyinders boroscoped though. My 2003 with full service history in mint condition suffered this fate.
I thought I’d go back through the Jay Emm back catalogue. Speed yellow 996 👌🏻👌🏻😍😘
Very beautiful! Congrats!!
Good report. Thanks. I have always suspected that--with the exception of the widebody versions--the Evora would get anyone to drop Lotus.
It's the Exige and future plans or nothing with that group. Please, Lotus. No more cars that need to get closer before one notices it's probably NOT a Honda. What were you thinking, Lotus?
James need more subscribers.
Lotus produced 100k cars in its whole history, Porsche produced millions.
Fair enough that James should get the chance to increase his viewership.
Best of luck, I would not swap mine for a 911 though.
Porsche hit 1 million cars recently, look it up. 175000 of the 996 were made in total, including Turbos, GT3, etc.
I absolutely adore the 996, and managed to pick one up recently. Fantastic driver's car. Not as gokarty as a Lotus, but in my opinion, way better looking than the chunky and awkward Evora.
Porsche 996 : 1m 911 reached last year, millions of Porsches (over 1m of non 911 in the last 10 years). Look it up.
you seemed a little out of breath filming this james, are you ok?
Lol, as a matter of fact I wasn't at the time (long boring story not for the channel)
@@JayEmmOnCars no worrys. wish you all the best James
What’s the point/benefit of the insurance in your description? I’m in the US and I hear UK videos mention such insurance occasionally. It presumably costs more than insuring from a plain Jane insurance company? If so what’s the appeal exactly? What shortcomings do normal insurance agencies have re: modified/performance cars?
Fee they specialise in performance and more unusual cars, they don’t cost more than normal insurers and will agree values, will be less inclined to write off a damaged car, they are insurance in the old sense where you deal with an actual human being rather than mainstream insurers who are all boxes to tick online and a computer spews out your premium price, no human contact, no understanding of an enthusiast car or motorist.
Glad its only temporary James and then you are back to something more interesting. I have an 80's 911 and love it but no way would I want a 996 or 997 over an Evora. I also think an Evora longterm is going to be cheaper to run as I am sure you are aware of the engine issues and such that pre 2009 911's have.
+JayEmm How is the 996's rear passenger space compared to a 2+2 Evora?
I think similar room for people, but the Evora is better for storage as the bottom is flat
funny that you find the seats to narrow. I find them too wide. I think they could hug you even more.
I was so close to buying one of these just 2 weeks ago. Love the 996! There’s an immaculate example of the 4S at que automotive at the moment. But I’m a golfer and despite how you feel about them, I love my m4 and it’s handy boot space :)
No space for clubs in a 911!
Personally I think that this was a big mistake! I’d rather have the Evora for sure! 🤷♂️👌🏻
I'm glad to hear your going to use it for a bit, whats not to like about a 911 ?
Those are not standard seats but 996 ”Sport” seats. The standard does not have the shoulder widening part. GT3 seats are different product (by Recaro).
996 steering feel is so much better than 997/991 it will go down in history as the better car
I think you are right
@@JayEmmOnCars wouldn't 997 be much like 996, given it's still hydraulic?
Yep I love it, nice stop gap car and from what I've been researching a future collectors car so might be worth queening it
Yep it's certainly not a hardship driving it around!
I had so much problems with an Evora 280cv. 2010. I sold it and now a cayman S 320cv is on my garage in Madrid. quite a diferent car but I sleep better now..... Lotus just now an option to rent an enjoy a week per year, not to have in my garage. cheers guys.
The 996 is the first of the modern 911s with a modern chassis, modern ergonomics, modern pure and simple styling although they have gotten the lights a bit wrong.
2 very different cars .. Lotus has a underdog feel to it.. yet it’s more engaging to drive ☺️
The 996 is the perfect combination of both old & new. They still have the very distinctive old school 911 sports car driving feel, while being "late 20th" century liquid cooled reliable. They also aren't overloaded with Nanny Safety Systems that you're unable to turn off. I'm obviously very partial to the 996 Turbo (as you can tell from my pic), which I chose to purchase only after driving the 997 & 991 Turbo's first. 966tt's are possibly the absolutely best of the Turbo variants that Porsche has ever built... & I've owned several different models.
I've never driven a water cooled turbo
I should have gotten the Turbo.......Ill prolly upgrade to the turbo 996 a lil later
Does turning the hand brake up a notch disengage the fwd or is that just 997s?
I think that is 997s. As far as I know the 996 and 997 have very different AWD systems. The 996's is quite mechanical
So a guy has a Lotus Evora. He sell it and get a Porsche 911 instead. He makes videoes and let me watch for absolutely fecking free. I'm happy. Stop giving the poor guy a hard time. I just subscribed and rang the bell... ;)
Thanks Jesper, I appreciate it :)
Are the pictures you took for the eBay advert at the same location as at 4:54 looks similar?
Yes
I thought so. Im mega local to you and checking nearest first Porsches and recognised it straight away ! Would be a nice car to keep and make mint. Great fun daily
Future classic James
Lovely Car
Hi, is it best to make sure IMS bearing has been upgraded before buying one of these? If it has does it mean the engine is then as reliable as the turbo lump?
Dan needs to move more, for example right when Jay says something about the wide arches he needs to move quickly to it, same when he says about the tire width etc. . . that way it's much more dynamic, think of it more like someone's head than a camera
We're training him up
It is a keeper, enjoy! The seats are not standard but sport options by the way. Cheers!
Oh really? I did not know that. I need to do a full run down of the spec
@@JayEmmOnCars Keep it man, apart from being a great driver's car, a manual 4s is a future collectors car. I have a 98, bone stock Carrera by the way. ;) Best.
Nice. I really miss my 99 C4
I was in my 996 the other day, I saw 2 other 996’s neither of them acknowledged me, let’s just call it the Porsche “blank”
I'm glad you have started pronouncing Porsche correctly.
Yesssss maaaaate.... that’ll do nicely.
Pity you’d have to flog this to afford your new acquisition - You could daily the hell out of it, rack up the mileage, and get more for it in a year or two than you discounted off the Evora.
Massive step backwards from the 400. Glad to hear its only temporary.
It's a very different car. In many ways quite refreshing to have something a bit low key for a while
R u on drugs bcz thier is noting excited about lotus bcz it engine from Toyota and bare bone body
Try one.
McLaren's engine started off in a nissan
Totally agree.
I personally believe the 996 era was the best in Porsche history.
After the 928 GT and the 944, I fully agree with you. There were no eighties like the 1980s baby.
Agreed!
996 was the best 911s.
Has there been any preventative maintenance on the IMS bearing?..my C4S detonated its engine at about 60k
IMS and RMS have been replaced
I discounted the 996 as IMs replaced yer right, problem has never been fully sorted
Generally speaking cars that failed did so before 50K miles
Aw man I was honestly excited about a bunch of 996 videos coming, the Lotus was just a bit too pricey too be of interest to me. There’s not many newer cars that interest me short of GT350’s/18 GT’s, and that’s about it lol. I live in a world with 5+ year old cars only basically. I watch your stuff regardless, just got excited for a moment
Might as well just go for a nice used early model Evora. Non supercharged of course. Less things to worry about.
Great choice! I love my 700hp 996 turbo!
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Cool!
W00T! Stinger GT S soon, knew it!
Welp, I thought you were going for Porsche, but you say it ain't it. 😶 Wonder what you're replacing it with and that Porsche is a good choice. If we go back to Porsche we'd get a 997, but the price isn't going down and we shouldn't have sold ours in the first place, but oh well. 😂
Excellent choice, very tasteful. enjoy. Best arse of all the 911's
Is this the limited edition of which only 20 million were made?
What's next, the Kia Picanto?
hahahahahahahahaha
Love it!
So true.
...well , assuming the " one million unit " leaved the factory last year in all the 911 history sinçe 1963 , I suppose you are just trying to be ironic , isn't it ???
I swapped a Ferrari F430 for a Lotus Evora GTE. I love the Lotus, never regret it.
So when do we see your new Alfa?
Questions about the C4S - journalists suggest that the C4S is the best of the 'normal' 996s. How do you feel about it having owned others. Is it indeed the pick of the crop?
It has been years since I drove my own 996. To look at the C4S is the best, but I feel like the first gen 3.4 C2 could be the best driver's car of the lot
How much for the Porsche? As I am interested in buying it...
It's advertised at 21995
That's a shame as I only have 20k, but I am sure you will sell it, cheers Rich
You can always make me an offer
P cars are always great. Those are sport seats.
Back to what you know best. Embossed seats, handbrake and gear shift surround upgrades are good but the tail pipes need to be ovals and the spoiler will make or break the sale. I'd loose the spotty arse as well. Fond memories of my artic/met blue 02 4S. Enjoy her .
Spotty arse?
In total agreement with you re exhaust tips
@@JayEmmOnCars the parking sensors. Never been a fan as it kills the looks of the wide body.
They are kinda useful though. It's taking some adjustment to parking it after the Evora
This is basically the Norfolk version of Hoovies Garage.
The px side of things makes sense. I was expecting AM V12 Vantage with a manual.
Goddamn Hoovies. I'd love a V12 Vantage but I just don't have the finances for it
I thought it was a turbo at first.... But a 4.... Not for me. How heavy are these? Get it on the scales would be interested to hear.
About 1520kg, fairly portly
It's a credit then that it still feels like it shifts. Intrigued by what the Real replacement will be...
Yes it's totally the opposite to the Evora. The Evora did its best work at the top end, but this is very strong in the mid range. Makes no sense but that's how it is
Evora replacement??? 430 cup maybe???
There was me thinking you were going to be sensible and buy an A8 4.2 TDI !
I can’t hate the 996 fried eggs - and it’s because of the old GT1 that was modeled from it. The 1998 911 GT1 is the most gorgeous race car ever created in my opinion, making the 996 road car sort of the ugly duckling that grew into it. The maligned headlight shape (plus the tail lights) were about the only things to carry over to the race car, linking the 996 and GT1 together forever. I laughed out loud at “this might take a little bit of explaining”. It’s cool you have something fun to drive in the meantime. Interested to see what’s next.
i just sold a porsche, couldnt live with the fear of it exploding everytime i started it up.. loved the car tho... porsche engineers made some humdinger design faults with the engines on some variants the ims bearing is such a poor design .. the fear ruined the ownership for me on what was a really lovely car..
I can see why you would replace the Evora with a 911... But I hate the looks on the 996 with a passion haha. Couldn't it have been a 997?
Owned a Porsche 996 C4 Cabriolet for a decade, and then later moved into an Lotus Evora S.
No comparison. The Evora S is better in every which way! Well except that it isn’t a convertible.
ha! My "serious" guess was 911 (joke one was electric Kia Soul: sorry, Kia Soul, I quite like you!). Sensible man.
How much would one of these with that mileage cost roughly?
20k
It’s on eBay at £21995
@@royalstevep68 nice find
Dan please hurry up and walk to the back corner and also get a STRAIGHT line on it instead of caddywampus also have you got a peg leg stop wobbling on the move
996 is the red headed stepchild of the 911 line.
Cletus. You have obviously had an epiphany, for Porsche is the one automobile deity. 🎚
Welcome back to Porsche ownership, all be it briefly. Expect nothing to break or fall off over the next couple months.
Can't fit in a lotus anymore? :)
That’s a great car
How would you design your ideal sports car? I'd love to see a video about it!
That is an excellent idea
@@JayEmmOnCars did you ever make that video?
I recon Jay will get an manual Gen 1 Audi R8 4.2 V8 cause they R beautiful and cheepish this days. Jay am I right?
He;d take the RS5 over an R8 V8,
Zane has done his homework. The R8 is nice, but not nice enough
It's currently the only 911 i could realistically afford and every now and then i'm on auto-trader having a look...
Seems a hassle to take the Porsche as part x. Why not wait until your friend has sold it then take the cash? You must have got a good price as you never quite know what you will get when it comes to sell.
It was a convenience thing largely - the car I wanted to buy I had to put a deposit on, and Charlie couldn't buy my Evora until he sold his Porsche. My next car isn't a great daily so this seemed like a good stop gap
I was afraid you went from Lotus to Porsche - which means you're getting old and common. If you other car is a Merc...even older then I thought (unless it's a black series). But you put my mind at ease saying there will be a Lotus in the future on you driveway. If that is an Exige you are getting younger ;) (growing old is mandatory, growing up optional)
I was wishing for a fiat coupe turbo lol
I bloody love those! My Dad owned three back in the day, I have fond memories of the 16v turbo which he had "chipped"
A fwd delta evo in a fancy dress, you've got to love it. If you can find a 16v or a 20v (amazing soundtrack) I would make for a great video.
@@JayEmmOnCars fiat coupe! fiat coupe! fiat coupe!!! 👍👍👍
996 C4S was always a car on my want list. As was the Turbo. Almost bought one years ago before the silly price rises, but after reading lots of horror stories regarding the engines, it put me off.
The funny thing was the prices of the 996 turbo and GT3 originally suffered, partly due to engine horror stories. But they actually had a totally different engine in!
Wait, what? Another Lotus in your driveway? 🤨
V8 Esprit or bust....
elan sprint
Doug Demuro likes the 996. I like the fact that it's a C4S. I'm not a fan of the 996 because it's the ugliest 911 ever made. Thanks.
Suits you Sir!
Oooh!
981 views. MIND BLOWN.
Saying hello to similar vehicle-drivers is niche, as you say, nothing to do with the quality of vehicle that you drive. I used to have an old camper (with an overcab bed) worth a negative amount of money. Other similar weirdos waved at me (I am a weirdo too). I miss that tribalism. View HubNut, spend £15 buying a truly dreadful car..... everyone will love you. ......... still love your videos, Mister.
Guilt stops you from looking the camera in the eye.....Well I suppose at least it is the 4s.... only joking
"Here is the reason why I bought Hoovies 911"
I thought the 996 was the unloved 911?
It is
Fried Eggs! 😉
This was really a letdown...
Did you watch the whole video?
I did. It was a letdown of expectations that you failed somehow. To let me explain. To become really popular as a automotive presenter, you need to project a certain type of mentality of yourself and how you understand and how you love cars. For example, Doug De Muro, Hoovie, Shmee, despite the fact that they have an understanding of cars that I really hate (superficial, superflous, arrogant and ignorant in certain cases) they have this. They are consistent with what they project as media personalities. That's why they became popular. You fail to understand this. Jump from an Lotus to a 996 and fail to be aware that no other 996 owner would ever salute you is miserable. I am an MR2 owner and with the money that I 've spent (not many, by the way) I could had bought an Audi TT roadster but I haven't thought for the Audi even for a second. In theory they were competitors when the MR2 was sold but in reality the two cars are for different people. And yes, we salute each other when me and another MR2 meet on the road and I am aware this would had not happened if I owned a TT.
I know other people don't wave at you because I've owned and driven other Porsches and that's just the way the brand is sadly.
jejeje , get a used evora s.
Review actually begins at 3:50 He is driving and chatting before that. This video is more of an announcement rather than review. Your welcome
It's not really a review at all tbh
How much? I’m keen! )
It's up at 21995