Twin Peaks - Major Briggs and The Fireman | Exploring Possible Connections
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 7 ต.ค. 2023
- Exploring several possible connections between Major Garland Briggs and The Fireman / Giant throughout Twin Peaks Season 2 and Twin Peaks Season 3.
*SPOILERS*
This video contains spoilers on all things Twin Peaks.
This episode was written, narrated, and produced by Geoffrey Ciani (aka - Rummy).
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Lol “like Tom Bombadil.” What a wacky comparison, love it
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I miss this show and the atmosphere of dread that Lynch was so great at. Loved your snarky analysis
I think you absolutely cracked this one. Seems as though the mission (defeating Judy) needed more time/info but Cooper rushed in regardless, with what we can presume good intentions but where do they get ya? Trapped in the Black Lodge, seemingly forever. As time passes it becomes more and more unlikely that we are to see a continuation of Twin Peaks but this right here makes up for that - thank you for the great TP content.
I appreciate that. Thanks for watching, and thank you very much for the kind words. Cheers!
Never give up hope!
This video gave me a lot of substance to one of my existing "feelings"/theories about the ending, the so-called closure to Twin Peaks so I'm not sad if we don't see continuation. I like a story which ends with a defeated/trapped protagonist. @@thisisnotachannel
also let's be honest, Jeffries went to search for/investigate Judy as well and he ended up in a giant kettle and I don't think he knows what year it is haha so it's not like there is much hope for Coop to overcome whatever ill-begotten fate awaits him@@thisisnotachannel
Always excited to see new Twin Peaks content from you. This video is incredibly thought-provoking. Wow Lynch Wow the GOAT!!!!!
In most philosophies regarding the duality of dark and light, it is understood that defeating evil is not a possible outcome because nature is always a balance between the two. The light shines brightly because of the dark, good cannot defeat evil, only contain.
Within the darkness contains light, and within the light contains darkness. Coop seems to have forgotten this and instead seeks to destroy a fundamental force necessary for existence. Mark Frost has stated Coops failing was hubris, believing he could defeat something that underpins reality itself, when in reality it can only be contained to reach balance.
Examining the yin and yang, you have darkness with a dot of light and light with a dot of darkness, thus established balance. If you were to attempt to remove the light from the darkness and the darkness from the light it would no longer be balanced and the darkness and light would spread into each other like a virus breaking down balance and causing annihilation.
This was coops hubris, believing he could save that dot of light from the darkness.
Exactly this...
Thank goodness folks like you still put thought and energy into this wonderful and strange series.
Thank you for still revisiting this series so much ❤
Missed the Twin Peaks vids bro!
Right?! So glad he's back!
Yes thank you I love more twin peaks videos
Always love " wow Lynch wow" .....been a while
It's good to see you again, old friend
It's YREV very good to see YOU again, Old friend!"
@@christopherfeeney1962 hahaha, I knew I'd screwed it up directly after commenting but wowbobwow had already hearted the comment, so I didn't want to edit it!! It is great to see wowbobwow making TP content again. It makes me feel like all is right in the world.
Perfect time to make your triumph return! ❤
This just popped up in my feed, and I’m a longtime subscriber! So glad to have a new angle on TP and the part of the storyline you are focusing on here. While watching I keep getting the feeling that Lynch is trying to give out info on the mysteries of 411 Missing and at the same time, I am finding ties to the Keily Rodney case. There’s strangeness and dark terrors in Truckee, and bodies that don’t match as well as obviously foiled autopsies. Children 16 years old going missing, found deceased in strange circumstances, only to be officially written off as accidents. Strange doings indeed. I am just about to tie it all together just as I drift off into sleep, but upon waking that mysterious piece of the puzzle has eluded me again. Thank you for shining your light on this part of TP, it has revealed a bit more.
Great job, loved the Soprano clip too! Please keep TP theories coming, it’s squirming in the underbrush trying to wriggle back to conscious exposure again.
as interesting an idea this is, I think Missing 411 is really an overblown conspiracy. it used to interest me a lot, but in so many situations there's completely rational and logical answers, yet the conspiracy theorist in us wants there to be something. it doesn't help that the guy who popularised it is a MAGA nut and ex cop who got fired for mishandling his job, which doesn't exactly scream trustworthy.
also reading up on the Keily Rodney case you mentioned and I'm a bit confused. it doesn't seem to be too suspicious in terms of the missing 411 angle or anything Twin Peaks style.
@@thebasedgodmax1163 well the “media angle” doesn’t reveal the massive coverup and shady characters as well as LE shenanigans. It’s a messy mix of secrets.
How did you know I was planning a rewatch. You’ve put this out at just the right time for me 🦉
It's part of us all! We may stray for a while, but it's ALWAYS calling us back! And we always answer!
Glad you're back with another TP vid, hope you got more in the tank
holy shit here we go, so pumped for this. thanks for the great work
I'm going to listen to this multiple times... I think you nailed this! So amazing!
Love these vids! Thanks man!
Long time fan! AWESOME to see you uploading.
THIS IS FANTASTIC!
Brilliant as always good sir! Thanks for this
Missed you and your vids! So excited to see this pop up
Really brilliant video, remembered how much I enjoyed your other Twin Peaks stuff.
Thank you very much. Cheers!
Great to have you posting on TP again ❤❤❤❤
Thank you for this. I really miss Twin Peaks. More videos would be appreciated.
I hope to try and do a few more in the coming months.
What yet another brilliant piece put together. I absolutely love it. We’ve had some outstanding series in the past such as breaking bad, better call Saul…and the like, but there will never be anything to better Twin Peaks. It will always be the benchmark. Well done again my man.
Thank you very much! Twin Peaks will forever remain my favorite television viewing experience. Cheers!
Please keep these coming I love these vids
This is amazing work! Wow!
Very well done video, deep and evocative.
A greeting from the depths of an Italian night.
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God I missed this
Another home run.
Thanks for your work
Sir, these new videos you've made.. They're even better than the ones I remember watching during the premieres of the episodes from The Return. Excellent work, sit! I love it. ☕️👍🏻
Thank you very much for the kind words. Most appreciated. Cheers!
Love this channel love this video ❤
tnx mr.Propa ! am a big fan of your boxing channel and this one of course
The number "666^ appears above 'Cooper/Cooper'. It's just above the 2nd Cooper, how fitting!
always love your takes.
I forgot about the old butler with the 👍👍 and the milk 😂
I notice Brigg's wife was wearing a Blue Rose patterned dressing gown when he hugs her after returning in Season 2
Bobby in the end really made my day. thank you
So, when the fireman says "listen to the sounds" if you listen to the sounds, you can actually hear that it is someone talking. What they are saying will shock you. Someone typed this in a comment section that I saw yesterday, it blew my mind, and when I heard it, it gave me chills. If you listen to the sounds, it is Cooper saying "what year is this?"
What a pleasure to observe this level of coherently presented detail. Also, Jowday as the Fireman’s doppelgänger of sorts is a neat thought. Thank you.
Thank you very much. Cheers!
8:57 One of my most favorite scenes from Twin Peaks.
thank you. that was great food for thought
I still don't think Cooper and Mr C separated or were "reunited". And I disagree with your take on Briggs wanting to understand evil more than Cooper. If anything Cooper is the one saying they need to understand it (yes "the cause" matters), and I took Briggs' "yeah" as a sincere agreement acknowledging their responsibility to fight and understand the evil. But it's good to see new Twin Peaks videos from you (found these 7 months later lol). Always enjoyable to watch. Thank you for retiring the itchy armpit close.
Defeating BOB happened to have the added caveat of freeing real Cooper, whom the Fireman needed to (presumably) defeat Judy.
i don't know if you noticed i just noticed while rewatching that the character that has been paid to watch the glass box has next to him the same Banzai tree that Winderm uses in the old series, there could be something to that or more likely an easter egg.
Did Bob take some of windoms soul and evil and that helped create the dopplecoop? Then it would make sense and after all mr c uses windoms same remote technology
that's a good point, i remember the part when Bob takes Windoms soul for breaking the rules by trying to take a soul that ddn't belong to him, it's mad i wrote this 4 months ago i feel like it was ages ago i watched it, i'm getting on the train again soon, brilliant show.@@beyondz55
Drool Cup is Hank Worden. Thank you! Thank you kindly!
Brilliant
It's also awesome how the same actor is general hammond on Stargate SG1 and their cover story is Deep-space radar telemetry.... Twin Peaks inspired so much
He also played Agent Scully’s dad on The X-Files.
Thanks for putting this all together, love hearing your thoughts and also seeing these events grouped together for better understanding.
One thing that occurred to me while watching - since S3 reveals the “blue rose” name came from a confrontation with a tulpa - could the Major saying “blue rose” be him referring to this aspect? I’m wondering if the Briggs that met with Hastings was actually a “manufactured” version of him, which may explain Mr. C’s involvement and why Briggs would involve seemingly random people rather than contacting Gordon or Albert. It could also explain that his fingerprint access was part of Mr. C’s machinations…
Was Mr. C defeated, or was Richard purified with fire, and sent back to his world to destroy Judy? I think he was the one who exited the lodge at Glastonbury Grove, and met up with Diane (Linda).
very good theory! awesome video!
thanks to your video and the magnifying glass app at 410% and the keyboard's image by image shortcut (, and .) I could finally find out what happens when Mr. C. is in the cage! I never really could make it out! SPOILERS:
it's only his face turning towards the screen, then showing us the back of his head. but because of the lighting and smallness of the shot I always thought he transformed into something like a leafless bush or something! haha! now I know!
and isn't it The Giant in the robe out of the light?! when Major Briggs yells "COOPER!" as if calling to him to come see this quick?! this is what I like about this show! after so many times I've seen it, I/all of us still find things and details to talk about either on TH-cam or on soooo many Podcasts!
Twin peaks. SUPER! 👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍
One of Cooper's BIG failures, along with Sheriff Harry T., was the murder of Maddy. Leland was obviously a nut job. He had proudly murdered Jacques. Yet Coop allowed Truman to tell the judge to let lethal L go free, when he should have been sent to Tacoma for psych evaluation by trained professionals (not Jacoby). And Maddy who looked exactly like Laura what a coincidence was allowed to stay with L instead of advised to get out of town. And when the Log Lady showed up at the station saying it was happening again did Coop and Truman do the obvious thing and drop by the Palmers and see if things were OK over there? No, they went to the Roadhouse for nuts and music where admittedly some of the coolest scenes in TP occurred (including super hot Donna mouthing the lyrics of Rocking Back Into My Heart sung by the late great Cruise to James) while Maddy is being brutalized to death.
And then Coop gets involved with Annie and lets her participate in the beauty contest despite the giant saying no, no, no.
Coop was OK with illegal activities, including the Bookhouse Boys illegally holding a person in captivity. And the dicey cross border stuff.
We all love Coop, but he had issues. Perhaps being so close to the Black Lodge was impairing his brain function.
I love how the tall old man was played by Hank Wordon, of John Wayne films fame, including The Searchers. I have been in Hungry Horse MT, it is at the south edge of Glacier Natl Park . No Sheriff station there though.
Cooper as a person just seems to have a very naive, romanticized, almost black and white view of the world, and that’s in part why we adore him so much, but I feel like it’s also his downfall. It’s through his perspective that we, the audience at Leland’s death, are so ready to accept the idea that Leland was a helpless victim to BOB, who was solely responsible for Laura’s rape and death, while reality as presented in Fire Walk With Me is a lot more nuanced and complicated and disturbing.
I just thought of something regarding Major Briggs and I couldn’t wait to share it. It’s connected with the Arthurian legend (“Glastonbury Grove”) of the quest for the Holy Grail. In some retellings, Sir Galahad was the only knight pure enough to find the Grail and when he finally found it, he was assumed into Heaven because he was “too good for this world.” Doesn’t that sound a little like Major Briggs being brought into Lodgespace by the Giant?
I finally got around to watching this! So good to see more Twin Peaks material from WLW.
12:23 - I’ve often thought that when Briggs called out “Cooper!” at the campsite, it was because he saw Cooper as the robed figure stepping out of the light. Note how Briggs isn’t looking behind him where Cooper went to answer the call of nature; he’s looking right at the light and the figure. Is the robed figure some kind of future version of Cooper that has become a Lodge entity (sort of like how Philip Gerard became one in FWWM and The Return)?
Now that's damn interesting! I hadn't considered that, and I have not seen the scene since just before/during the making of this video. I'll have to make a point to give that another look.
@@WowLynchWow Thats what's great about Twin Peaks: you gotta keep taking another look...
My main man Rummy
I don't know if you take recommendations through the comments, or if this is up your alley (it's okay if it isn't), but I suggest you take a look at an anime called "Serial Experiments Lain". It's well known for its unconventional storytelling and surreal visuals (much like Lynch) and would be a natural fit for the channel, even if anime isn't something you're normally into. Even if not, I look forward to your videos. Thanks!
amazing video - also bobby looks like the fireman kind of as he ages no?
LETS FUCKING GO
I think he's known as the Giant, in first two seasons because of his enormous height and I don't remember him introducing himself. Does it say (The) Giant in the credits in first two seasons? He seems to be doing the same work, just at his palace, rather than in the Red Room or Twin Peaks, although behind the scenes show him in the Red Room, but his lines, "Remember" were used in his palace, so I don't know if the same scene was shifted from the Red Room.
But the strange thing is, The Giant and Ronette Pulaski, both return, but are given different names.
Speaking of the Ace of Spades card, when Mr C first is shown visiting some people, they hand out cards but we never get to see them. Could those be the same card and what's the significance?
I take Mrs Palmer's possession as either Judy or DoppleLaura, as we see in her face in S3 and the hint is "I'm with Dale Cooper" and Annie in FWWM saying, "write it in your diary". It's probably Laura sending a message to everyone and the reason it's low pitch could be because it's slowed down, because it's a message from one timeline/realm to the real world/Twin Peaks. Its the Laura and Cooper connection, like in FWWM ending, where Cooper and Laura are together and in S3 ending, making Richard a combination of Cooper and Mr C or "yet another version of Cooper", as Kyle said in one interview when asked (sorry, don't have the link, but you might remember if you saw that clip. Could be the Ellen DeGeneres interview).
The Zone could be Area 51, or close, or something like it
Only connection for Sarah Palmer and the Jumping Man I see is the staircase resembling Palmer House and the wallpaper being the burn version of Palmer house
And in FWMM, Laura's Dream, she looks into the painting and it shows the reflection of the stairs, where she goes and looks and sees herself in the painting and that way, she travels inside that world, to find the portal through the Kid, "fire walk with me", the kid snaps fingers and Ring of FIre starts, just like MFAP did at the room above the convenience store, that opens the way to the "middle place", that they had been looking for
29:17 There it is: Cooper Cooper : D Joking, as we know it's about two Coopers, but now looking at it, it's eerie
32:45 "16 hits in...25 years". Both add up to 7
And the "love is not enough" reminds me of Julie Cruise "Love, dont go away, come back and stay...forever and ever"
What if...
Briggs story is a parallel of Cooper's insofar as his "mission" was to "save" his own son Bobby from the entities/malignant influence etc and he WAS successful in changing Bobby's past/future?
A smaller victory that doesn’t have the same level of hubris as Cooper, decides to create a loving environment for Bobby to become better as a response to Laura’s awful home experience - rather than trying to annihilate evil completely…
When Laura's dead body, wrapped in plastic; disappears from the waters edge, I finally worked out how the fish got in the percolator 😮
Isnt Red Drape place waiting room, not black lodge? Black lodge is place above convenient store?
It’s not very clear, is it? The Man From Another Place (aka The Arm) calls the Red Room “the waiting room,” but in Fire Walk With Me, MIKE and the Arm confront BOB there. Also, there does seem to be a connection between the Red Room and the Room Above The Convenience Store in that when Jeffries tells about seeing their “meeting,” BOB and the Arm are shown creeping through the Red Room at the end of the scene.
11:18 it's the waiting room, not the black lodge, no?
A lot of people have brought this same point up in previous videos of mine, but I always thought they were more or less one and the same. Especially when you consider the message Sarah delivered to Briggs.
Have you noticed that Mr C sounds a bit like Major Briggs?
Twin Peaks is basically a retelling of the story of Beowulf.
Interesting! Could you expand on the connections you’re seeing?
I still maintain it wasn’t Cooper, and his new doppelgänger that when to get Laura.
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I feel like Half-Life and the lore around the G-Man is very similar to Twin Peaks.... The G-Man was an interdimensional being that is playing all the sides for a specific outcome for his bosses.... which is in direct opposition to the Combine's desired outcome.
Time and time again...
so the airforce had the coordenates for the zone?
also, does the fireman knows about the chalfonts/tremonds?
Feuer zieh mit mir
This guy's got a very specific skill set he only acts in television shows that have trans dimensional portals
Whats up with the robot mouth?
Are people really just places, or vice-versa? Eat at Judy's.
I bet you can do a mean Bill Maher impression.
You know, Mr. C was on really on the path of the Fireman and good Coop. If you think about Mr. C's goal it was the same as Coopers. He wasn't interested in money (as shown when they asked him what he wanted by the gang) or even power., Find Judy - either to know her or exterminate her. - that seemed to be his only goal. The obvious difference is C used violence to achieve his goals. However, I'd argue Mr. C was much more efficent. he seemingly was getting closer to Judy than the Fireman or Cooper ever were. You could say the discovery of Judy was ultimately foiled by the Fireman and Cooper.
Maybe Mr. C's goal was to stay in this world. Does survival or his base nature make really him evil?
Yes he's evil in absolute morality. Not by utilitarian standards though maybe. He's as self interested as Hitler was. You know that's objectively evil
What in the eff
WLW did you get contacted by Kino Corner about being in his Twin Peaks series?
I do not believe so.
Brilliant