Twin Peaks Overview #1: Audrey's Dance

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  • Corn Pone Flicks attempts to unravel the mystery of Audrey Horne in Twin Peaks: The Return. Do we succeed? Could anybody? Like Lynch, I'm not going to tell you.
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  • @Corn_Pone_Flicks
    @Corn_Pone_Flicks  5 ปีที่แล้ว +180

    At this point I have to admit I have no freaking idea how TH-cam works. I expected this video to go nowhere, and in three days it's accrued over twice as many views as my last Twin Peaks video has in five months. Seriously, what the hell happened? Did this get linked to some Twin Peaks page or something?

    • @hiryunoken9
      @hiryunoken9 5 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      Yes. See the Twin Peaks Reddit.

    • @FrankFrankly711
      @FrankFrankly711 5 ปีที่แล้ว +29

      I watched the new Wow Lynch Wow video and it recommended this. Good analysis bro

    • @secondcomingofbast9908
      @secondcomingofbast9908 5 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      You were linked on Reddit. I tried to link your post on Reddit myself, but wasn't allowed because somebody else already beat me to it.

    • @Corn_Pone_Flicks
      @Corn_Pone_Flicks  5 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      Looked, but I couldn't find it. Whatever; at least now I know what happened. I've never been on that site myself, so I'm not that familiar with it.

    • @crnacpanker
      @crnacpanker 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      showed in my suggestions, cause I was watching wow lynch wow. first video of yours.

  • @mattgilbert7347
    @mattgilbert7347 5 ปีที่แล้ว +296

    S3 made one thing perfectly clear:
    James has always been cool.

    • @doppx
      @doppx 5 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      you even doubted?

    • @miawxoxo5130
      @miawxoxo5130 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @Stoneryoda 937 lmaoo

    • @eparigon
      @eparigon 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Matt Gilbert LOL sure

    • @JC-yy8iv
      @JC-yy8iv 4 ปีที่แล้ว +26

      That statement was the clearest indication that the timeline was being revised

    • @CSM100MK2
      @CSM100MK2 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      nope

  • @TheArtofGuitar
    @TheArtofGuitar 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    If I die I want to live in the original Twin Peaks and visit the cafe.

  • @valmarsiglia
    @valmarsiglia 5 ปีที่แล้ว +144

    Never considered that Audrey could be another tulpa, definitely something to think about.

    • @CBGB_1977
      @CBGB_1977 5 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      MP Yep. I think Mr. C created a Tulpa out of Audrey and kept the real Audrey hidden away in the unaccessible door in the room above the convenience store so she couldn't tell the "unofficial account" of what happened.

    • @menteencoma
      @menteencoma 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@CBGB_1977 tulpa Diane revealed it though o_O how did that happen?

    • @CBGB_1977
      @CBGB_1977 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      menteencoma I wish I knew...

    • @mattiVX
      @mattiVX 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah, that makes so much sense when you think about it!

    • @lizj729
      @lizj729 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Jesus. Another rabbit hole

  • @calliope720
    @calliope720 3 ปีที่แล้ว +86

    I think this is a great analysis, and I LOVE your whole series of videos about the return. My only disagreement with this video is both specific to Audrey's story and a general philosophical disagreement - namely, with your assertion that "She'd suffered the worst indignity that a person like her could possibly suffer - she grew up."
    Warning: Long
    This might be the kind of thing one could argue if Audrey's character was originally an extremely fortunate young woman with everything ahead of her, surrounded by love and security, well-developed and deeply fulfilled, and hopeful for the future. If her tragedy was that life used to be very, very good and full or promise, but eventually became banal and disappointing, this take absolutely makes sense - and is, itself, the plot of many, many other movies, and maybe even the story of other characters in the series.
    But Audrey's life story wasn't a path from promise to disappointment. Hers was a path from trauma, through trauma, and ultimately becoming defined by the damage her trauma caused her, leaving her no choice but to attach herself to the nearest rock in the stream to provide some kind of structure while her fractured mind tries to make sense of her world and handle her unresolved anger, resentment, fear, and grief.
    It's important to remember that Audrey's reality was different from how she wanted herself to be seen. Yes, she was very good at being crafty and quick and sly, as well as being charming and social and likable, and she certainly exuded an ambitious drive. But this was a crafted exterior to protect herself from the reality around her - she grew up in a loveless house, with an ambitious but untrustworthy and distant father, an emotionally withdrawn, defeated mother, and a brother with extreme needs that almost certainly served to detract from her parents' already scant attention while highlighting the ways they foist their problems onto other people (we never really see her parents take any interest in Johnny's care, and likewise never take an interest in Audrey's well-being).
    We can see this facade crumble in several scenes, and the one that stays with me the most is the sharp contrast in her reactions to seeing her father getting scolded by Catherine and seeing Leland Palmer weeping while dancing. Audrey laughs at her father's misfortune with Catherine scolds him, as she know this is a comeuppance her father deserves, and it gratifies her to see him held accountable for something (however briefly). But she weeps, uncharacteristically openly, when she watches Leland inconsolably dancing and crying out for Laura. She's not crying for Laura's death here - she's crying because of what it must be like to be so loved by a father that Laura is grieved so much by Leland.
    Audrey doesn't seem to have many friends, spends a huge amount of her time alone, and goes through some horrendous things in a misguided attempt to help out the investigation, during which she narrowly escapes a sexual encounter with her own (unwitting) father, forced drug use, threats on her life, being ransomed... those are life-changing traumas that future Audrey certainly isn't looking back on with rose-tinted glasses.
    And after the original run, during the 25 year interim - now comes the biggest sticking point for me when I heard your assertion about "greatest indignities" - the sexual assault by Mr. C.. Having built up Cooper into a savior in her mind, so literally in fact that she "prays" to her special agent while at One Eyed Jack's (it's clear she's hoping he has the place bugged and can literally hear her, but the comparison to a prayer to a savior is obviously intentional). We may not know the details of her encounter with Mr. C., but we do know that whether he tricked her into thinking he was the real Coop or simply took what he wanted for the agony it would cause her (more likely), she was sexually assaulted. I myself have been sexually assaulted by a person I thought I could trust and I can promise you that the devastation of this kind of thing is a far greater indignity than the signs of aging or a disappointing marriage.
    Not to mention her then being stuck with Richard, who being the offspring of an evil doppelganger I can't imagine was any more charming as a child, though perhaps SLIGHTLY less dangerous. We don't know how long she raised Richard for, but long enough that he knows about his father, clearly. This would have reminded Audrey every day of the attack, and not even rewarded her with a child's love to compensate for it, as Richard can't love.
    I should note that I do NOT think it's far off to say that Audrey has retreated into delusions of the past - in fact, I agree with you that this is exactly what we are seeing in Audrey's Dance. She is taking solace in re-tracing the same time-worn steps she has danced all along, of a young girl trying so hard to be someone interesting and desirable and confident and in control and loved, dancing to her weird jazz while the audience looks on and adores her. And I agree that her rude awakening from this "dream" is her moment of lucidity where she's faced with where she is now (whether or not this is because she's a tulpa or simply mentally unwell is difficult to say, and I don't know what I believe about that yet).
    Where I disagree, essentially, is in WHAT the horror is that confronts her. Audrey isn't simply the story of a woman who came from a promising place only to find life cold, dirty, and hard. It was cold, dirty, and hard the whole way, and she experienced betrayal after betrayal that stomped out every hope she could have had for someday being "Audrey Horne, who gets what she wants." The indignity is not that she, on her own accord, "settled" for a miserable accountant who does not excite her enough. The indignity is that Audrey has been hurt, has been alone, and has not been truly loved and understood in all her life except by a special agent who, from her perspective, turned evil and raped her, and also briefly I guess by a weird cowboy character who almost immediately left her for a foreign country and as far as we know, never returned.
    Audrey didn't screw up her life and and have to come to terms with her own mediocrity in the end. She was a neglected child and a traumatized woman who did the best she could with the tools available to her, which while young, were her good looks and charms, and the eccentricities that kept her at a safe distance from others - and as an adult, were nothing but the chance to hold on for dear life to something solid and unshakable like a dry, methodical, passionless accountant, and retreat into the fantasy sometimes of the Audrey she wished for, but never really was.
    Getting older is no indignity. And I don't think David Lynch thinks it is either. But a life stolen - either literally, in the case of Laura, or stolen from the heart, in Audrey's - is an indignity and a grief that Lynch shows us unflinchingly over and over and over again, to remind us that while these characters aren't real, their stories are the stories of countless real people, whose grief is not simply a plot device or an eccentric character trait but the entire world to someone. As someone who grew up in a loveless, abusive home, wanting nothing but to grow up fast and be loved and be in control and be validated by people I looked up to, and who grew up to experience betrayal again in a sexual assault by a person I trusted which threw my life into a chaos from which I still have not re-stabilized - Audrey's character (and Diane's, for the latter reason) speak to me the most, and I think it sells her short to chalk up her season 3 arc as the vain regrets of a woman expected better. She should expect better. She deserved it. And Lynch told her story as a tragedy, not a joke, because he knows it too.

    • @e11esounds
      @e11esounds 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Beautifully put ❤️

    • @notkoko2385
      @notkoko2385 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      holy shit this is quite possibly the most in depth character analysis of audrey ive ever seen. criminal that you only got 3 likes for this amount of effort. you should make a video essay on this or something because its quite remarkable and very eloquently put

    • @Will.Evans.11
      @Will.Evans.11 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Incredible comment. Absolutely nailed it!

    • @isoleta
      @isoleta ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Possibly the greatest TH-cam comment I’ve ever read, and I appreciate you for taking the time to share it with us. 💞

    • @chopsandtoots
      @chopsandtoots ปีที่แล้ว +3

      This was so well thought out.
      Audrey is a tragic, complex character. I started the show really disliking her because I found her immature and annoying but as the series progressed and we got to learn more about her, she quickly became one of my favorite characters by far. She's one of the few people who truly do have good intentions for the sake of the greater good, like a true chaotic good character. I know a motivating factor was her wanting to help Cooper but she also made a point to say that while she wasn't friends with Laura, she was good to her brother and important to him.
      I really hate that because the actress playing Donna at the time was dating the actor playing Cooper was against a relationship between Audrey and Cooper. Especially since the actress was 26 and Annie's actress was 21.

  • @vladocvijetinovic
    @vladocvijetinovic 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Gorgeous analysis man. I would like to point some additional details I noticed thanks to you:
    1) The style and furniture in the place that Audrey lives in is conspicuously vintage, kind of reminiscent of rural early 90s. That's the place and time she feels like inhabiting. Her soul is stuck in that sweet past apparently.
    2) Charlie could plausibly represent the rational, perhaps materialistic and vapid “grown-up” reality that she “married” herself to. The Ego to her Id. The road she had ended up choosing. She seems unable to act on her decisions without him, he takes care of the business and accounting. If the final scene implies Audrey being stirred back into reality or waking up, the previous setting implies to be the opposite, which is where Charlie as a character appears exclusively. While in the Roadhouse, they drink the exact same cocktail, and Charlie is exactly as tall as Audrey albeit being visibly shorter stature beforehand. When finally addressing him face to face demanding to take her out of there, the scene cuts directly to her facing her own mirror reflection. She is definitely wearing a hospital gown as confirmed by the behind-the-scenes clip you showed.
    3) Billy could additionally be a reference to actor Billy Zane, who played her unfulfilled love interest in season 2. He noticeably sang to her on their picknick while wearing a cowboy hat, similar to Eddie Vedder’s.

    • @MiroslavStarcevic-uo4gh
      @MiroslavStarcevic-uo4gh 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Wow nice eye for the John Justice Wheeler hint!

    • @nyarlathotep9896
      @nyarlathotep9896 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      🤔@@MiroslavStarcevic-uo4gh

  • @irmese06
    @irmese06 5 ปีที่แล้ว +97

    I liked this, and your theory spoke to me, a person the same age as Sherilyn Finn. I think the choice of Eddie Vedder to sing that song -- who was hitting big in 1990-91 -- was no accident. How have everyone's life choices worked out? Everyone who was young then? Existential questions hitting hard. ... I still suspect Audrey's scenes can be read in more ways than one; in any case once Lodge time and reality plasticity are hinted at, anything goes, really. ... I think Audrey's gasp and glance into the mirror represent a moment of lucidity in a life distorted by mental illness. And I think mental illness is a kind of dream you can live -- just like everyone else's dream. Who is the dreamer? You are. Just like Audrey. Existentialism 101.
    In Twin Peaks dream logic terms, Audrey slips between realities. She's a dweller on various thresholds all at once, and I think her construct of the Roadhouse is one of those liminal spaces. I hope, or wish, that the poor woman made it back to Twin Peaks prime ... if that even means anything anymore. I suspect not, though; the Return tells us six ways from Sunday that "You Can't Go Home Again." Damnit.

    • @twoheadedboy81
      @twoheadedboy81 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      One other Eddie Vedder comment... He is introduced as "Eddie Severson". Severson is his birth name, taken from his bio dad who died when he was a teen, but Eddie knew him as a family friend at the time - this is chronicled/dramatized in "Alive". So either the Eddie we see is a tulpa, or he is "Odessa Eddie", from the real world not the Twin Peaks world (IMO).

    • @e11esounds
      @e11esounds 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      twoheadedboy81 great catch. I didn’t know any of that about Eddie.

  • @JohnDoe-xf8ew
    @JohnDoe-xf8ew 5 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    I took Audrey's purpose in the story as a more symbolic one than a literal. I think Audrey represents old Twin Peaks Fans, who notoriously aren't satisfied with change. Audrey being a fan favorite was expected to play a much larger role in the show by a fandom, yet for the short time she was in the show she spent most of it arguing with her husband and wincing when faced with any kind of decision that has a chance of falling through. I think Audrey is Lynch's message that the "good old days" of Twin Peaks are long over and that there is nothing anyone can do about it.

    • @Corn_Pone_Flicks
      @Corn_Pone_Flicks  5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      I agree. I think her dance at the end was his way of saying that to a degree. The story he'd written for season three didn't really have much room for her character, but he might have felt she had to be in there somewhere given how much she'd lobbied for the show and for his return.

  • @FirstPlace97
    @FirstPlace97 5 ปีที่แล้ว +73

    Season 3 is one of the greatest in television historie

    • @rellman85
      @rellman85 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      It's an 18 hour movie: and a brilliant one, at that.

  • @WofulAverage8
    @WofulAverage8 5 ปีที่แล้ว +69

    This was a dope video, more Twin Peaks content please. You really have a great perspective on theories on the show

  • @ZendelWashington
    @ZendelWashington 5 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    man that ending hit me hard

  • @MisterDevos
    @MisterDevos 5 ปีที่แล้ว +35

    Season 3 is my favorite season honestly. I think about it basically everyday.

    • @alexlight4178
      @alexlight4178 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Me too! I tell people 'i think it's the best thing ever made. I mean... It's not good... You probably won't like it. Best thing ever made though.'

    • @isakdahl7054
      @isakdahl7054 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Alex Light Haha! I’m basically the same!

    • @GamesWithBrainz
      @GamesWithBrainz 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I really do wish a lot of dougie stuff was cut out tho

    • @Casinorhgd
      @Casinorhgd 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@GamesWithBrainz Me too. Dougie was so looooong.

    • @Gaggerlotion
      @Gaggerlotion ปีที่แล้ว

      Still?

  • @sadmonster2081
    @sadmonster2081 4 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    This is one of the best and one of the only non-stupid Twin Peaks videos I have ever seen. Great work! Thank you!

    • @Corn_Pone_Flicks
      @Corn_Pone_Flicks  4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      All I can say is that I hope that doesn't include the other six videos I've done on the subject.

  • @greenlitmediaproductions8467
    @greenlitmediaproductions8467 3 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    Genius work dude. Also the ending of the video and what you did with Eddie and Audrey made me bawl my eyes out.

    • @Corn_Pone_Flicks
      @Corn_Pone_Flicks  3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      The end of that episode always hits me...a sort of, "Shit, where did the time go?"

    • @aromaticflower
      @aromaticflower 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Makes me cry too..

  • @MarkHalski
    @MarkHalski 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Excellent. The comparison between Tulpa Diane and Season 3 Audrey is spot on and the line you draw between Vedder's lyrics and Audrey's story just broke my heart.

  • @phoenix777able
    @phoenix777able 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Bravo..Thank u for your razorsharp insights...Twin Peaks was a Major Symphony in my life for both of its airings...So Happy and so Grateful u r multilayered revisit to this Majestic Dark Multiverse ..Please continue

  • @sofakinghigh
    @sofakinghigh 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    That was phenomenal!!!!! I can't believe how concise your observations are. There is so much to learn from this show in the most banal of moments. This is one of the best season 3 vids I've seen

  • @technoirtn
    @technoirtn 5 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    TH-cam recommended this video to me out of nowhere. I haven't looked into any Twin Peaks content since the season ended. Glad they pointed me here though! Awesome video and a great channel in general.

  • @johns123
    @johns123 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    These TP videos are brilliant. You really make so much sense out of this series. Thank you!

  • @HOWARDRIELL
    @HOWARDRIELL 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Matt: I just re-watched a couple of your Twin Peaks videos, including this one. GREAT JOB. I love 'em.

  • @hutch815
    @hutch815 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    great content!!! one of the best twin peaks analysis videos I've watched. Edited perfectly to help effectively make your points

  • @ReadyforAbduction
    @ReadyforAbduction 5 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Wow the quality of this video is amazing! Thanks for this, keep going if you can!

  • @wesleybird880
    @wesleybird880 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Very well made, really gave me some things to think about in regards to Audrey, whose mystery always interested me the most. Thanks for making it.

  • @Backtothegameplay
    @Backtothegameplay 5 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    I liked this video a lot. The Return left us with so much room for interpretation and while I enjoy theorizing wildly, often I feel that those theories never really sit well with me and I can't help but wonder "what if...". Your unravel was very logical and precise and while it didn't jump to explain the wildest things, I could conclude for myself "Yeah, this actually makes sense." Especially the case with Audrey being a Tulpa - it never occurred to me and it does all make sense.
    In another video trying to unwrap the change of the timeline, it was argued that her suddenly jumping from the Roadhouse to the nuthouse/hospital was an indication that this was where the timeline actually changed. But I like your approach better. I guess all in all, we may never get an answer.
    Either way, thank you for your video. Keep up the great work.

  • @ShinySephiroth1
    @ShinySephiroth1 5 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    This was a great, unique analysis! Thank you! I loved it!

  • @CarlosRodela
    @CarlosRodela 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Very great deciphering of Audrey's story line .. and awesome ending mix!

  • @gametheorymedia
    @gametheorymedia 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Your work is just SO consistently great, and thorough, and funny; always look forward to seeing more! :D

  • @swayze_mane
    @swayze_mane 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Love all your videos. Especially the Lynch / Twin Peaks content. But don’t misunderstand, I love it all. Can’t wait to see what you come up with next! Thank you for the quality entertainment!!!

    • @Corn_Pone_Flicks
      @Corn_Pone_Flicks  5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      There will be a few more Peaks-centric ones, but when that series is over, I've got a laundry list of other topics to get to.

  • @fuffle7
    @fuffle7 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    The montages you put at the end of these videos are incredible

  • @mikephillips710
    @mikephillips710 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Mr. Pone, you are really good at this. Please keep going. LOVE your Twin Peaks analyses!

  • @matthewpower7148
    @matthewpower7148 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you for this video! Great work!! I loved your final edit of Out of Sand and the Audrey montage💕 brought tears to my eyes! So tragic what happened to Audrey(whatever that may be). Please make more Twin Peaks vids🙏

  • @dustinlambeth2013
    @dustinlambeth2013 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Awesome analysis man! I love how so many things in this show are seemingly mysterious, but if you really look hard enough the answers are there. Twin Peaks is certainly not for the average person.

  • @AllenHenry72
    @AllenHenry72 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    wasn't expecting much from another theory video, but this is really fantastic stuff. great work!

  • @kaskovic1993
    @kaskovic1993 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Amazing explanation! So many stories in 1 show if you really pay attention! It truly is one of the best ever!

  • @Pneubeteube
    @Pneubeteube 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I'm really glad TH-cam recommended you. I hope you make more videos like this in the future, Twin Peaks or otherwise.

  • @codyfarley260
    @codyfarley260 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Hi Corn Pone... really great video and I love your sober, no-nonsense analysis. Another great angle on Audrey is how she fits into the "It's all a dream" theory which posits that everything we see (and I mean EVERYTHING) until the last two episodes is all a dream Cooper is having while in the lodge. That is, until we see him walk out under the sycamores and meet Diane - every aspect of the story is SOME part of his battle with his dopplegangar. Just as in a dream, every character is "you" Audrey is a very important part of Coop's psyche and represents a part of his consciousness that knows deep down, something about what's happening is not right/real. Audrey's feeling of being trapped in the room - that her story could end - she's not herself - speak to Coop wrestling with these issues himself as he struggles to re-integrate his shattered soul. We don't see Audrey again after she looks in the mirror because Coop himself will also come to this realization when he watches the scene in the police station unfold - a scene he watches from the Black Lodge and realizes that he's been dreaming every scene we've seen played out until now. For Audrey, she was the first part of Coop to realize "We live inside a dream."

  • @WowLynchWow
    @WowLynchWow ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Excellent! I definitely believe you correctly identified Billy, and you made some damn fine points about Audrey, and completely sold me on the tulpa angle.

    • @Corn_Pone_Flicks
      @Corn_Pone_Flicks  ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Funny thing is, while the very first time I saw the series I came to those conclusions about Billy based on the whole "stolen truck" issue, I'm not really sure about the whole tulpa angle myself anymore. It's something that I felt the last time I watched through the show, and might feel again next time, but it sounds a bit far-fetched in my head these days. (And then I remember that lyric in Vedder's song, "There's another us out there living much better lives," and I wonder all over again.) Incidentally, I've enjoyed your videos on the subject, as well.

    • @WowLynchWow
      @WowLynchWow ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Corn_Pone_Flicks When that original episode aired (7 was it?) I remember thinking the same thing you thought at that time, but later I became less certain and then I kind of never really thought about it much. Watching your video, I think you were 100% correct, and unlike me, you were certain of it.
      That tulpa angle made perfect sense to me, and I had never really thought of it that way. You made quite the compelling argument where you now have me totally convinced. The Diane/Audrey thing makes sense, the words, the connection to the Lodge - you nailed it!
      I'm looking forward to closely re-watching the rest of your Twin Peaks series in the coming weeks. And I enjoyed your more recent Skywalker video, and I say that as someone who hasn't actually seen the movie (I kind of got turned off by TLJ to the point I never got around to it).
      Cheers! You have a brilliant presentation style, and your mastery of all aspects editing is beyond reproach.

    • @Corn_Pone_Flicks
      @Corn_Pone_Flicks  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thank you very much. I've been editing since I was twelve, when all I had was a razor and splicing tape, so it's been basically a lifelong interest. As far as Twin Peaks goes, I try never to be certain of anything other than that Cooper likes coffee, which oddly is one of the things that makes it fun. In most other shows, that sort of uncertainty would be aggravating...here, it's part of the allure.
      The Rise of Skywalker video is actually a few years old, but it got blocked after years of no issues because of some music, so I had to re-cut and then re-upload the whole thing, losing all previous feedback because TH-cam couldn't bother having an overwite function...it was most annoying. Vimeo has that option, so TH-cam's claim that it can't work is basically a load of crap.

  • @richardcranium744
    @richardcranium744 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    These videos are definitely the best twin peaks breakdown. Thanks man!

    • @Corn_Pone_Flicks
      @Corn_Pone_Flicks  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hey, I was making 'em anyway. The best way to figure something out for yourself is to explain it to someone else.

  • @sarahb1862
    @sarahb1862 5 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    Oh Audrey... Poor Audrey. This was a great video.

  • @Elayzee
    @Elayzee ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I love the "Going out on a limb" gag 😆😆😆

  • @mgannott02
    @mgannott02 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great Stuff. I'm going to binge watch the rest your videos as soon as possible

  • @rotinasemroteiro
    @rotinasemroteiro 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Hello! I'm Brazilian and I love to see theories about Twin Peaks. I've been planning a podcast here on youtube to comment on the series, as there isn't much content in my language about it. Your videos and the comments on them will definitely help me a lot to expand the possibilities and I'll definitely recommend them to others. Thanks for the content!

  • @lowki07
    @lowki07 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    This is a great analysis, I am greatly enjoying your channel, I subbed yesterday and binging your vids.👍☕

  • @ScarletEdge
    @ScarletEdge 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I loved your video. I can't wait for next ones regarding Twin Peaks.

  • @Nemesi
    @Nemesi 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video and analysis! And wonderful final montage!

  • @JosephRocco-mi4cm
    @JosephRocco-mi4cm 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Audrey basically realizes she's not in the show. The dance was what we all wanted, because of nostalgia. Lynch was destroying nostalgia.

  • @ShinySephiroth1
    @ShinySephiroth1 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Just rewatched - man, this video is good!

  • @BB-or8gi
    @BB-or8gi 5 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Girl this was WAY TOO REAL FOR ME.

  • @Nightmarigny
    @Nightmarigny 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    This is outstanding. Thank you.

  • @NeutronDance
    @NeutronDance 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Great video. Loved the editing at the end.

  • @openingconsciousness
    @openingconsciousness 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thank you so much for this analysis. Beautiful work.

  • @Embrace731
    @Embrace731 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This was really well done! Thnx & Kudos!

  • @leland-bobpalmer4274
    @leland-bobpalmer4274 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you kindly: SPOT ON LOGIC! Most helpful 4:20 to an understanding & analysis I enjoy most TP discussions but they do tangent away

  • @jmd26
    @jmd26 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Wow. Fantastic analysis. I'd picked up on some of the things you pointed out here, but I love how you fit them all together. Thank you for sharing your theories. I think there is much truth to them.

  • @plantagomajor
    @plantagomajor 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Beautiful analysis and video. Thank you.

  • @CBGB_1977
    @CBGB_1977 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I like your analysis of Audrey and the show itself. I think it would be fantastic to have all of us TP's share discussion at a table over coffee and cherry pie.

  • @RiC_David
    @RiC_David 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    This video was really _really_ good. I only discovered Twin Peaks late 2017 after keeping it in my mind as something to eventually check out for about 15 years, knowing only the brief Simpsons TV spoof and being told by a friend that it's some surreal show and ultimately finding it to be much more (and somewhat less) than that.
    This video gave me chills all the way through, not just because of Twin Peak's 'half remembered dream' nature but because of the excellent job you did in creating your own atmosphere. Uncanny would be the word.

  • @Rihcterwilker
    @Rihcterwilker 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Just discovered this channel. So good.

  • @daregorton8359
    @daregorton8359 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    The description on this video is awesome😂. I'm so happy this was on my recommend list. The Audrey Horne plot was infuriating! I love Audrey, to see her get that treatment left me wondering if Lynch was holding a grudge for her not coming back for FWWM.

    • @Corn_Pone_Flicks
      @Corn_Pone_Flicks  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      I doubt that. Lynch isn't one for grudges. Robert Loggia talked about how he totally tore into Lynch over not getting the part of Frank Booth in Blue Velvet, and when Bill Pullman suggested he try out for Lost Highway, Loggia was extremely doubtful given his past behavior. But Lynch didn't care, and of course he did get the part. Lynch even said that the actor's anger over the Blue Velvet incident helped convince him that Loggia would be perfect for Dick Laurant.

    • @CBGB_1977
      @CBGB_1977 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      The only people I think DKL may hold grudges against are the ABC executives and LFB for messing up his true vision of the story with her temper tantrums and influence over Kyle during filming, causing strife among the other cast members.

  • @danfish88
    @danfish88 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    So good! Please make more of these

  • @pipsqueakcustoms8018
    @pipsqueakcustoms8018 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Really enjoyed this video commentary!
    Ps. I’m your 500th subscriber!

  • @chadghostal2145
    @chadghostal2145 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great stuff. Glad I came across your channel

  • @stephaniemac4637
    @stephaniemac4637 5 ปีที่แล้ว +71

    Poor Audrey..I’m still a little pissed at Lynch for what he did to her.☹️

    • @Corn_Pone_Flicks
      @Corn_Pone_Flicks  5 ปีที่แล้ว +50

      I'm curious as to what was originally supposed to happen. It's been reported that Sherilyn Fenn was displeased with what had been written for her, and she gave Lynch a good talking-to over it, after which he re-wrote it. Given that she expressed much approval of the scenes as they ended up, I have to wonder what the first draft was like.
      But yeah, nobody much ends up with a happy ending in the series outside of the Ed/Norma/Nadine situation.

    • @ShinySephiroth1
      @ShinySephiroth1 5 ปีที่แล้ว +25

      @@Corn_Pone_Flicks well, and Dougie's family, haha

    • @DethronerX
      @DethronerX 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@Corn_Pone_Flicks I follow Sherilyn Fenn on Instagram and when her episode aired for the first time, she was still acting confused, as if, even what we saw was weird for her. She was upset and so were some other actors, as we saw them during interviews. Ed looked frustrated too, but that could be because of how Lynch directs, making them do so many takes til its perfect, but there's something strange about this show, the sketchy feeling, errors and too blue scene with Gordon. I hope we find out, or Lynch gets ideas for something new. Only then, if more was shot, can be used, but you never know if that's going to happen at all

    • @valmarsiglia
      @valmarsiglia 5 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      @@DethronerX I'd love to see the unused footage. A few years back when the Blue Velvet Blu-Ray came out, there was another hour or so of footage that really fleshed out the story.

    • @DethronerX
      @DethronerX 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@valmarsiglia I just hope that he uses it for a new season or film, because past footage into new was beautiful in S3.

  • @tiffanyclark-grove1989
    @tiffanyclark-grove1989 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    These four videos are great. Thanks

    • @Corn_Pone_Flicks
      @Corn_Pone_Flicks  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      There's actually five on Twin Peaks that I've made...the first was part of my general film review series and was made last September, so it's a little earlier in the list.

    • @tiffanyclark-grove1989
      @tiffanyclark-grove1989 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Corn Pone Flicks That is excellent. You are quite astute. What’s your favorite Lynch film? Mine is Lost Highway 😊

    • @Corn_Pone_Flicks
      @Corn_Pone_Flicks  5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I'd probably have to go with Mulholland Drive.

  • @cuttothechase6855
    @cuttothechase6855 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This analysis really hints at why I really love TP: The Return. It's basically the inverse of the show, where all of the melodramatic story bits surround the scenes but are never seen on screen. The mystery of the show is the mystery unraveling what has happened to everyone since Mister C entered our world and turned it upside down.

  • @Elayzee
    @Elayzee 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Unlike another 6+ hour long "explained" video for this, YOURS actually does explaining and is truly funny where you add your humor to it as well. I love that you're keeping it grounded firmly in-show instead of going-out-on-a-limb (lol) and finding countless cherry-picked sources to force the show to fit the "evidence" that it's all just meta about TV like that other video claims. Thank you for YOUR truly well thought explanation videos!

  • @alancooper6443
    @alancooper6443 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    WOW BOB WOW! Amazing! Your commentary sure put that whole Audrey story into focus. I never made that big connection between Audrey, Richard, Billy and the truck plus Tina and her daughter.

    • @Corn_Pone_Flicks
      @Corn_Pone_Flicks  8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Has something happened Peaks-related that I don't know about? These videos are suddenly getting a major uptick in view the last few weeks.

  • @DarkeningSkies1
    @DarkeningSkies1 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I have been 100% behind the Audrey is a Tulpa theory since the show aired. Mr. C was Cooper's shadow self writ large (and fused with BOB).. practically the first thing he did was claim a comatose Audrey in the hospital and trap her someplace else, and then Diane was next. Both women Cooper likely desired but was far too honorable to pursue as himself.

    • @Corn_Pone_Flicks
      @Corn_Pone_Flicks  4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I'm tempted to wonder if Ronnette was also involved in that, given we see a girl who looks just like her after Naido/Diane switches the breaker, but seeing as how she wasn't any kind of close figure in Coop's life, it doesn't really fit the pattern.

  • @skinnyt1971
    @skinnyt1971 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Well done, mate. Brilliant.

  • @jeffha4057
    @jeffha4057 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is a great video. Love this series.

  • @Chakralius
    @Chakralius 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    The whole Audrey arc in S3 always perplexed me - very interesting take!

  • @trippnboi
    @trippnboi 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wonderful video, thank you!!

  • @xandercrews4729
    @xandercrews4729 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Looking at those 2 photos back to back, the real villain of the series is Father Time

    • @Corn_Pone_Flicks
      @Corn_Pone_Flicks  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I'm pretty sure that's the main villain of reality, too.

  • @BorntozaurX
    @BorntozaurX 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I don't remember the examples off the top of my head, but I recall noticing that there were a lot of ties between lyrics of a song that appeared in an episode and this episode's storyline.

  • @eamonhanka
    @eamonhanka 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is brilliant. Keep up the good work :)

  • @kennylauderdale_en
    @kennylauderdale_en 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Added you as a featured channel. Great stuff man.

  • @Bean31600
    @Bean31600 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Dang great video, very nice edit, i like the end

  • @caitlinroseblaney226
    @caitlinroseblaney226 5 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Great stuff in this video. That Eddie Vedder song still gives me chills.

    • @CBGB_1977
      @CBGB_1977 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Insomniac DaydreamzZz It also matches Coop's situation.

    • @caitlinroseblaney226
      @caitlinroseblaney226 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Danelle Covey I really like how much the songs performed in The Return match up to what the characters are going through and the general storyline & messages of the show. They reflect what’s happening in it so well. Great choices.

  • @johndalton3180
    @johndalton3180 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    This is wonderful, and I got teary eyed at the end. You're definitely on to something. I have a theory. Sherilyn Fenn says when she first got the Twin Peaks script, she cried. I believe there was even a time that she wasn't going to do the series. Eventually, she, Lynch and the producers came to terms. I think that the storyline of Richard and his grandmother in the film (he asks for money and beats her) was originally supposed to be Richard and his mother Audrey. Fenn refused, and was briefly off the project, until Lynch came up with the new idea. I think the whole story serves as a meta commentary on the actress- and, as you say, the tragedy of her getting older and not being what she once was. "Do you want me to end your story too?" I think the other half of that is "like I had to end Donna's story." Lynch shows the folly of trying to continue to be what you were at 16 by showing us how pathetic it is for a 50 year old Audrey to do "Audrey's Dance" Now, that bit of music has been called Audrey's Dance in real life since 1990. How likely is it that the actual character would remember a 30 second dance she did 25 years ago? Not very. How would she know that composition is called Audrey's Dance? While, obviously with all the names, these scenes tangentially relate to the story, I think the main purpose of these scenes, or what they're really about, is Sherilyn Fenn's initial refusal to participate, and the fallacy that you can go home again.

    • @Corn_Pone_Flicks
      @Corn_Pone_Flicks  5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      That you can't go home again is pretty literalized by the final scene, where Coop attempts to take Laura home again, only to find it's not her home anymore. There's definitely a sense of nostalgia being critiqued in the new series.

    • @johndalton3180
      @johndalton3180 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@Corn_Pone_Flicks Right. And the folly of trying to be what you once were, which is what I think putting Audrey's Dance is season 3 is about. In Sunset Boulevard (a clip of which is used in Season 3,) the younger writer says to Norma Desmond "There's nothing tragic about being 50, unless you're trying to act like you're 25." Which I think was also the point of having James lip synch to his original recording of that terrible song. Lots of meta commentary going on in the Road House that season.

    • @Corn_Pone_Flicks
      @Corn_Pone_Flicks  5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      INLAND EMPIRE delved into that as well, right down to actually re-creating a scene from Sunset Boulevard, with Nikki Grace playing the Norma Desmond part of an aging actress looking for a comeback. I thought it was interesting that Lynch decided to go with the optimistic ending on that one, countering Sunset's downer ending.

  • @AncientCityMusic
    @AncientCityMusic 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    “Hey... you like Flock of Seagulls?”
    “No. But I can tell you do.”

    • @Corn_Pone_Flicks
      @Corn_Pone_Flicks  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You think too much in stereotypes. My favorite bands are Bad Religion, Sonic Youth, and Faith No More. I'm into punk and noise more than anything.

    • @mikethetooth
      @mikethetooth 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      That was a good The Wedding Singer reference

  • @endorphinsmusic
    @endorphinsmusic 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    That made me tear up. Great take.

  • @samuidesune
    @samuidesune 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    The ne plus ultra of TP fan analyses. Bravos sir.

  • @hsatin20
    @hsatin20 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I like the tulpa theory concerning Audry. It seems legit

  • @marian3nene45
    @marian3nene45 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    RIP Clark Middleton, he played Audrey's husband ☹️
    Great video, I'm binging all your TP videos. So impressed with your theory here. Cheers.

    • @Corn_Pone_Flicks
      @Corn_Pone_Flicks  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Damn, I hadn't heard that. He played in Sin City and Kill Bill, too.

  • @Drew-vn8rx
    @Drew-vn8rx 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Nicely done

  • @SPLUNGEBO
    @SPLUNGEBO 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wow.Great food for thought.

  • @grrahrawr5688
    @grrahrawr5688 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This is brilliant.

  • @ston5326
    @ston5326 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    This intro is f*cking hilarious big ole heart react from me. Guess what u get a sub and ima hit that bell too because this boy here is well beyond every other analyst page on yt by also making very funny and enjoyable original contact. THANK U 4 BING KOOL

  • @stephaniemc9948
    @stephaniemc9948 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    That Eddie Veder song gets me every time. It intrigued me from the first time I heard it. Poor Audrey. 😞

    • @Corn_Pone_Flicks
      @Corn_Pone_Flicks  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      From what I understand, Sherilyn Fenn was actually the one who got him on the show.

  • @crappymccrappen4897
    @crappymccrappen4897 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    This channel is soooo underrated.

  • @GeoffBosco
    @GeoffBosco 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Dammit! I was this close to finishing the TV series for the first time, and you put that spoiler right at the beginning of your video. I knew I should have waited to finish before watching youtube videos about it.

    • @gustenhr
      @gustenhr 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      That should go without saying...

  • @wingflanagan
    @wingflanagan 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Wow. I always fancied myself a peakie from way back. But...no...not really. Not compared to you. Excellent analysis. Not sure how true it is, but I think it's at least in the ballpark. You now have another subscriber. Eagerly awaiting your next video...

  • @davidvaughan8796
    @davidvaughan8796 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is so good dude

  • @mrmogensen
    @mrmogensen 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Make more please, this was awesome. You're so much better than that Wow, Lynch, Wow guy

  • @Enlazador9
    @Enlazador9 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    It is clear that she was once assaulted or visited by Bob-Cooper as he calls Richard his son, which explains why he is so fucked up and not necesarily a responsability on Ben/Audrey Horne. If not a tulpa, at least some kind of distortion would have been left behind. Very good video !!

  • @DethronerX
    @DethronerX 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Good work!!

  • @Embrace731
    @Embrace731 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great stuff!

  • @secondcomingofbast9908
    @secondcomingofbast9908 5 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    I think you're wrong about Billy, but otherwise a very concise, insightful post about Audrey Horne. Well done.
    I got a sadistic chuckle out of whoever thought Cooper and Audrey would get together has been reading too much fan fiction, mwahahahahahahaaaa

    • @DollOfTheDamned
      @DollOfTheDamned 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I was at least hoping they would see eachother again. They had great chemistry.

  • @Cameron.Robert
    @Cameron.Robert 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thanks for these vids, CPF. More than the comprehensive breakdown of the lore, you really nailed the mood and atmosphere, something that itself is key to unlocking the mystery of Peaks, and Lynch in general, imho. And the production quality is enviable--were you an editor for Pete & Pete of somethin?? 🌞 cheers --roon

    • @Corn_Pone_Flicks
      @Corn_Pone_Flicks  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      I don't know what Pete and Pete is, but yes, I am an editor, as in I get paid for it.

  • @carlparkinson1810
    @carlparkinson1810 4 ปีที่แล้ว +53

    Scean with Audrey and her balding husband , The balding husband is the writer David Lynch himself, tired and fatigued struggling late into the night with her character, when he should be sleeping instead, seeking certainly his rest. over thinking how to write Audrey into the third series, for she is a major character in the original tv series. Audrey the character is in his head constantly, demanding of his attention! like a insistent lover! Demanding of him to include her into the new third series, but how? For she died in the bank explosion handcuffed to bars, at the end of the original series . And so he relents to her demands, since he loves, or is in love with her character, And so he lets her do what Audrey does best, (Sherilyn Fenn) and that is her slow dance for the public. At the end of the dance scean she shakes the author, (David Lynch) her husband, and peers into a mirror of her own reality. From the white lodge, for unfortunately she is dead.

    • @tonyatmidnight
      @tonyatmidnight 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      I absolutely love that.

    • @fagittarius555
      @fagittarius555 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Love this reading. Lynch literally being Gordon Cole is proof enough that hes one for self inserts

    • @italoblu
      @italoblu 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      But she represents our grotesque compulsion for nostalgia, trapped in our expectations and interrupted in her dance, ultimately horrified at what she’s become. And if her husband is Lynch, how about the idea that Audrey is Sherilyn Fenn demanding a bigger role?