Makita DTW190 Impact Wrench - Can it cope with wheel (lug) nuts?
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 17 ม.ค. 2021
- A quick overview of the Makita DTW190z Impact Wrench and a test on some Mercedes wheels nuts. The outcome is surprising....
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Excellent demonstration and right to the point! Now I know I have to go for the DTW300Z. Thanks!
Hi Jon, thanks for watching my video and I'm glad you found it useful. I hope the DTW300z works well for you.
I was just about to buy it as I looked at the specs and thought it would do wheels easily.. Thanks for the warning
No problem. I think it's a good tool in isolation (lack of torque aside), but would be better/more useful for me with a 3/8" fitting on the end and not the 1/2" that it currently has. I will be replacing it soon with a Milwaukee unit and will do a comparison video on them both.
Thankyou, you just saved me money and time. I need to remove a 32mm hub bold which is mega tight/ stuck.
No problem, glad I could help. Let me know what you went for in the end.
I just changed the rear shocks on a MK4 Mondeo with this tool. When I first looked at the tool, I wasn't hopeful as it's so small and light, but I had no problems undoing anything.
Hi, thanks for taking the time to comment. I'm really glad to hear that it's working well for you. I did my rear shocks on my E36 at the weekend and it wouldn't touch the 19mm lower shock bolts, but to be fair I needed a massive breaker bar to remove them as they were the untouched originals so had been there 30 years.
very helpful thanks
Glad it helped Danymite. Have a great day.
I wish I had seen this before buying my DTW190Z mainly because of arthritis. I still have a telescopic wheel wrench and a torque wrench in my arsenal so I guess the trick is to back off the nuts a smidge to undo and use the torque wrench to finish.
Hi Andy, thanks for taking a look at my video. I always have to back off the wheel nuts first, but after that the impact wrench can do the rest. I am awaiting comment back from Makita because their specs seem to suggest it is more capable than it is. Cheers, James
It is a strange question to rate the “weight” of this unit because it is basically a giant torque electric motor on the end of a handle- so yes, it is top heavy. I’ve had the chance to use it a couple times to remove tires and wheels and it works great th-cam.com/users/postUgkx4ynqaujg7rZKFapA8s29kTpRszJGa3-K There are three torque settings so that you don’t overdo it and strip a lug. Very happy with it, especially with the price of buying it as a bare tool.
Thanks and I appreciate you taking time to comment.
Thanks for the great video! I just received mine in the post. Bought it mostly for work on the car and bikes, but also for wheel nuts. Oops! hehe.. I am going to test the same. My wheel nuts are only 100Nm though. Cheers
Hi , and thanks for watching my video. I'll be doing a follow up soon using a 5.0ah battery to see if it makes a difference. hopefully it'll be a positive result.
@@MostlyHelpful I am keen to see as well. I tried my DTW190Z on 100Nm lug nuts, no luck. But the battery is only 1.5ah
I've just done the video using a 5.0AH battery and it's live on the channel now - have a look here th-cam.com/video/hQpQyYnnAT0/w-d-xo.html
@@MostlyHelpful Thanks, Just had a look. Very interesting indeed. I wonder why they advertise it with a max of 190Nm
Cheers mate.
No problem, thanks for watching the video.
I've had problems in removing wheel nuts with my makita 1002 nm ,its all about the current that manages to work with,i think a corded impact is way more powerful than any battery one
Thanks Adrian for watching my video and good to know.
The reason you are down on torque from the manufacturer specs is because the output is being limited by the maximum discharge current that the battery will provide. This maximum discharge current of a battery is proportional to the capacity of the battery (the Ah number) and this is known as the battery C rating. Power from the motor (and therefore it’s ability to create torque) is the product of voltage and current. Whilst the voltages are approximately the same at a nominal 18v (less under load), a smaller capacity 3.0Ah battery will have 3/5th the maximum discharge current of a 5.0Ah battery with the same C rating, and therefore 3/5th the power which translates into less torque, assuming that the battery is the limiting component in the system. A larger 5.0Ah or 6.0Ah battery is not the limiting component and allows the motor to draw its maximum current, make its maximum power and produce full torque.
For high current draw applications such as a torque wrench, the battery capacity doesn’t just deliver longer run times but also higher maximum current, power and torque, as other comments show.
In summary, try it with a bigger battery!
The C rating of a battery will also drop over time as it degrades, so a new 3.0Ah battery may deliver more torque than a well used battery.
To prove my point, I’ve just tried my Makita DTW190 with a new 5Ah battery on my Mercedes A class wheel bolts (17mm M14 torqued to 130Nm) and the wrench easily undid them.
Hi John, many thanks for this detailed explanation, it's not something I had considered before. As luck would have it I also have a 5.0Ah battery so I will do a side by side test and put up my findings in a follow up video.
I agree with you, more power that the battery gives the more torque it will deliver. that tool has 4 battery variants 3.0Ah, 4.0Ah and 5.0Ah and 6.0Ah. just upgrade your battery and it will give you more torque.
Hi John, I've just done the test with my 5.0AH battery and my results are the same, it can't undo them. I've done a video on it too - do take a look here when you can: th-cam.com/video/hQpQyYnnAT0/w-d-xo.html
Hi Arvin, I've just done the test with my 5.0AH battery and my results are the same, it can't undo them. I've done a video on it too - do take a look here when you can: th-cam.com/video/hQpQyYnnAT0/w-d-xo.html
I don’t have any issues using this intact wrench for loosening lugnuts but I use the 5ah accu’s for it and it stil is the smallest model they make
Thanks Jules, I'll be testing mine with the 5.0ah battery this week to see how I get on.
what attachment fill fit it by dad gave me this but dont know what adapter i need for screws and so on?
Thanks for sharing this. Strange you can’t rely on the spec sheet for nut busting torque. Main justification for me is a wheel nut as a minimum . I’m Looking at the XWT15z (580 Nm). Will let you know if i pull the trigger but looks like (TH-cam) it will manage most car wheel nuts.
I agree, it's a real shame that the in world capability doesn't match the specs. I am moving over to some Milwaukee units soon but I suspect your XWT15z will do wheel nuts no problem.
i can say the same for the makita dtw 285, it does not can wheel nuts off that are in 110nm... will be buying the makita 1000nm or the mid wrench 700
That is interesting, as the DTW 285 is rated to a much higher torque than the DTW190. Were you using a 5.0ah battery or was it something smaller?
Appreciate the review because I was considering buying one of these specifically to run wheel nuts. Could have wasted £70
Hi Omar, no problem, I'm glad you found it useful. What impact wrench did you go for in the end?
Costs $400 here, what a rip-off is Australia
Buy DTW1002 and you will not regret it
Makita DTW1002 is £300 plus in the UK so hardly worth it to most DIYers
@@galanonim8797 hey,i thought so too,but it apears that the weight and the size of it doesnt mean much when you try to undo a stubborn bolt,heck ,one time it has struggled with a starter bolt
it can be use on motorcycles? like the nut on the oil drain?
Hi and thanks for watching my video. Yes, this should be absolutely fine for motorcycles as long as the bolts aren't tightened to over 100NM.
Just ordered one yesterday for one purpose only...wheel nuts....
I will try it out when it arrives. I believe my wheel nuts are 120 nm so I hope it could work.
I recently took mine to the Makita service centre, where they ended up doing a service on the gearbox so I do suspect it wasn't operating at full capability. They checked my batteries too and one was 10% degraded and one was fine. I haven't had the chance to use it since but with a new example I'm sure you'll be fine.
I see. Fingers crossed that it will work for both of us! Thanks for your reply!
You need the dtw285, we use it for scaffolding so will do wheels easy
@@HMGCazell hey, i was wondering if wrench works for you?
@@mega0nyt It worked fine on my Audi A6. I had maybe 3-4 nuts in total where I had to go back and forth with the wrench in order for the nut to loosen.
But when I tried it on a VW Sharan I had more troubles and had to use a regular wrench for maybe 3 nuts.
I think there's 3 in this range, wonder if the next one up works? The daddy is about £240 unit only, seems a bit posh for the casual wheel nut enthusiast. :)
I keep meaning to buy the equivalent Milwaukee unit so I can do a side by side review, rather than move up through the Makita range. I agree though, £240 is strong money for the DIY'er.
If you put a few acoustic tiles around the garage - not even many, just a few 3x3 sections - the audio will be much better.
Thanks, appreciate the tip. That video is from a long time ago and since then I've invested in a proper Rode wireless microphone, so the quality is much better these days.
The dtw300 is a different class to this
Thanks Alex, I will check it out. Cheers.
Hey. Just wanted to share a possible trick from someone who commented on amazon. Apparently it made a big difference if the wheel is up in the air or on the ground. The person who made the comment was unable to undo the nuts with the car on the ground but after raising the wheel in the air he was able to unlock them.
It is possible that on some cars the car's weight is putting more pressure on the nuts so when you lift it so that the car's weights no longer presses on them, you may be able to undo them.
Try this trick and let us know. I am actually curious.
BTW: I tried DTW190Z on a Citroen with somewhat rusted M12 , 17mm nuts (car stayed outside unmoved for close to 4 months) and I was able to unscrew with both the wheels on the ground and in the air with a 6Ah battery but I don't know what torque they used at the car service.
Hi Catalin, thanks for this suggestion and it's definitely something I will try. I have some work to do on my Mini tomorrow so that's a good chance to try it. I'll see if I can film it and upload as a short.
Hi Catalin, I filmed this technique and uploaded it here: th-cam.com/users/shortspxQ_0EC7d5c?feature=share
It doesn't appear to have made a difference in this case but good to have tested it.
Theres a youtube review channel where they state that you need 500ft lbs torque to make sure you can remove 90% of wheelnuts. As they can get quite tight over time. Thats quite a big impact wrench. Seems a breaker bar is the best option unless you want to spend a lot of money.
It makes sense although worth pointing out that here I undo the wheel nut, tighten it to torque and then try to remove it so, in theory, the torque required to loosen should be the same as used to tighten. I have very recently bought a new Milwaukee impact wrench though so will soon be doing a comparison between it and this Makita.
We use them for scaffolding it will struggle with a wheel nut, it will piss it doing it up, it’s the cheep crap one, get a new one with power settings £150, it will do it easy it’s a dtw285
Thanks Leon, I will investigate the DTW285 for sure.
Had exactly the same issue with my Makita DTW285 that should be able to undo 400 nm, so the DTW700 would be needed.
I switched from 12 sided to 6 sided impact sockets recently and that seems to have helped (although it still can't do wheel nuts). I'm surprised a DTW285 struggles though given what it is rated for.
Tbh i was thinking about getting one for myself so i asked a buddy of mine to give me his for testing he owns a dtw190z and i found out that the problem is the battery, the 4ah battery is stronger so thats maybe the reason yours isnt lossening those bolts. Becuse i dont have any problems with undoing my bolt i tested it to 170Nm and it lossent them no problem.
Thanks for this. I have a 5AH battery too, so will check out if it makes a difference and report back.
@@MostlyHelpful Have u got a differente result?
@Eddi Szilard I have one with a 5Ah battery and just tasted it again torgued it to 210Nm and lossend it with no problem.
No yet, I have been busy sorting out the headlights on my Golf and the video went live earlier this evening. Will try it out ASAP though.
@@MostlyHelpful please 🙏
I have the makita xwto8z and it works fine. I think you bought the lowest torque wrench they have
Hey Josh, thanks for taking the time to comment. Yes you are right, it was/is their entry level model and to be fair it would be perfect with a 3/8 drive as typically the torque requirements are lower for that type of use. The model you've referenced doesn't seem to be available in the UK at the moment though.
I should buy a newer model, go for the brushless ones. I have a 14.4V makita brushless impact wrench and takes my bmw lug nuts off no problem, they are totqued to 140 nm.
Thanks Jeffrey. I've swapped to a different style of impact socket (6 point rather than multi-point) and surprisingly that seems to have helped improve matters.
@@MostlyHelpful Yes a 6 point socket is indeed better. It also does not strip the bolt head as easy as a 12 point.
it is a children's makita, for turning toys and furniture 90nm
Strictly it's 190NM not 90NM so it absolutely should be able to do wheel nuts.
The DTW190 model is not for this purpose. Try DTW1002 and you will change your mind, there is no nut that will not unscrew.
Thanks. I never bought it to undo wheel nuts, as I'm happy to use a breaker bar but I made the video as it's clear a lot of people do think that it should be used that way. I'd quite like to convert it to 3/8 fitting as then it would make a lot of sense.
3:25 u need min 300 Nm
New Milwaukee incoming and with it an update on this video.
Waste of time having a half inch drive then! Terrible.
Certainly I'd chose a different model if I had my chance again.
Forget makita and buy dewalt dcf899xr and you will not regret.
Thanks for the tip and for watching the video, I will definitely take a look at the DeWalt range.