Thank you for acknowledging the Orthodox Christians! I often worry about my B12 intake during the fasts. I am excited I learn about an easy source I can try! I usually rely on Shrimp during the fast, but chopped clams will be an interesting new treat.
Hey Chris, Thanks for the great info! So I am a 58 year old vegetarian and I drink 16 oz of raw milk per day for the b12. Shouldn't that be sufficient? A third glass starts to give me too much mucous (stuffy nose).
Every time I've had my B12 tested it is in the normal range. Yet when I started using B12 sublingual supplements I got rid of my heart palpitations that I had for over a decade! If I go too long without the supplement the palpitations return
@@lh2435 Some people also need differing amounts of various nutrients. The testing is only a general rule of thumb, but realistically there is no way to tell whether you fit that category of person or not. Everything in the health sciences is trial and error, not just for the general public, but for every individual.
I haven't seen sea / surf clams sold in Europe. There are usually frozen mussels either shelled or not. All canned molluscs, like clams, are mixed with seed/vegetable oils, which is very unfortunate..
You mentioned supplementation very briefly toward the end of the video. Is one 500 mcg sublingual tablet per day adequate for a much older person that doesn't eat all that well?
That person should be measuring their homocysteine and methylmalonic acid to know. There's a very high proportion of elderly who do not absorb B12 well because of gastritis.
When talking of daily nori amounts, do you mean fresh or dried nori? Same for mushrooms: 100g of fresh/raw mushrooms or cooked (since they may loose some water weight during cooking!)?
Chris - what could be some reasons for low b12 levels (and folate) even with supplementing with the methyl, sublingual form of it? Also, if supplementing, what form do you think is best? All sources I've read say methyl b12. No matter what I do my digestion isn't the best, but it's not terrible. However, I thought sublingual got around digestion? Finally I read you said you should do a 24hr MMA test to measure for it. Is there a site we can order this test? And what levels are optimal? I'd love to see a post on managing your b12 status.
great to know that eggs do not provide the B12 as easily digestible , and will simply add mushrooms (the 3 mentioned) to my diet...QUESTION: can you get too much B12 by taking a supplement of 50-100 mcg AND eating those 3 specific mushrooms also? I looked at a multivitamin I have on hand and it shows 50 mcg of B12, indicating that is 833% RDA? can that be right? If so then can a suitable quality multivitamin can be enough? are you pro or con on taking those?
No, I would not worry about too much B12. If you are vegetarian I recommend at least every few years measuring your methylmalonic acid to make sure what you are doing is working.
There is no reference to the importance of chewing properly, releasing saliva which is rich in haptocorrin. Also cobalt is vital for proper synthesis, not to mention stomach acid to properly digest the food.
MB your comment would be super interesting if you just left it as your contribution instead of framing it as a criticism of what I didn't say. It's unreasonable to expect me to give a comprehensive analysis in a 5 minute video. The whole purpose of these videos is to be short.
Chris I was many years ago ill and had very low in b12 now have injections as live in uk had stomach sample showing intrinsic factor score of 1 in 0-5 range can intrinsic factor repair/improve or if lost is it gone for good ? thanks marcus
Marcus I don't know much about treating pernicious anemia but it is thought to be autoimmune in nature and I don't think anyone has found a way to reverse it.
All this getting your vitamins from food is good, if your food source is not commercial. Unfortunately, advising the average person to go to the store and eat liver from cows loaded with antibiotics, pesticides, and glyphosate is not such a great idea to me, i would sooner take supplements. Further, bottom feeding clams, oysters, etc. may be just as toxic with chemicals and heavy metals. If you can get natural and organic, it is a great idea.
@@lh2435 Technically and semantically yes, but in the vernacular it is referring to food from small purveyors that focus on quality, and practice organic methods of growing and production. To draw a distinction, chicken from say Tyson will be replete with pesticides, fungicides, herbicides, growth hormones, antibiotics, etc., but chickens from a local farmer (you have to verify) will either have none, or less of that stuff. They are both 'selling', but one is using CAFO methods where the other one isn't, and one of the two, I'll let you guess which one, cares more about profits than quality.
I did't understand this with "taking nori with every meal , but 3 times a week" ... ?
Thank you for acknowledging the Orthodox Christians! I often worry about my B12 intake during the fasts. I am excited I learn about an easy source I can try! I usually rely on Shrimp during the fast, but chopped clams will be an interesting new treat.
Very timely, Great Lent is upon us!
THank you as always!
You're welcome Anastasia!
Hey Chris,
Thanks for the great info! So I am a 58 year old vegetarian and I drink 16 oz of raw milk per day for the b12. Shouldn't that be sufficient? A third glass starts to give me too much mucous (stuffy nose).
Every time I've had my B12 tested it is in the normal range. Yet when I started using B12 sublingual supplements I got rid of my heart palpitations that I had for over a decade! If I go too long without the supplement the palpitations return
Interesting. The testing method doesn't seem to be accurate then. Which do you use?
@@lh2435 Some people also need differing amounts of various nutrients. The testing is only a general rule of thumb, but realistically there is no way to tell whether you fit that category of person or not. Everything in the health sciences is trial and error, not just for the general public, but for every individual.
I wonder if dementia has increased since people stopped eating organ meats like liver regularly.
I haven't seen sea / surf clams sold in Europe. There are usually frozen mussels either shelled or not. All canned molluscs, like clams, are mixed with seed/vegetable oils, which is very unfortunate..
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Can you do one about folat to please?
You mentioned supplementation very briefly toward the end of the video. Is one 500 mcg sublingual tablet per day adequate for a much older person that doesn't eat all that well?
That person should be measuring their homocysteine and methylmalonic acid to know. There's a very high proportion of elderly who do not absorb B12 well because of gastritis.
What about cooking methods in order to preserve b12? I guess it's also not heat stable...
When talking of daily nori amounts, do you mean fresh or dried nori?
Same for mushrooms: 100g of fresh/raw mushrooms or cooked (since they may loose some water weight during cooking!)?
I'd have to go back and check the sources but I believe this is based on fresh.
@@chrismasterjohn I'd like to know too
Chris - what could be some reasons for low b12 levels (and folate) even with supplementing with the methyl, sublingual form of it? Also, if supplementing, what form do you think is best? All sources I've read say methyl b12. No matter what I do my digestion isn't the best, but it's not terrible. However, I thought sublingual got around digestion? Finally I read you said you should do a 24hr MMA test to measure for it. Is there a site we can order this test? And what levels are optimal? I'd love to see a post on managing your b12 status.
... or just take a b12 supplement
4-8 grams of liver only?? Wow! That's incredible... I usually cook around 100-150 grams of liver for a hearty meal.
great to know that eggs do not provide the B12 as easily digestible , and will simply add mushrooms (the 3 mentioned) to my diet...QUESTION: can you get too much B12 by taking a supplement of 50-100 mcg AND eating those 3 specific mushrooms also? I looked at a multivitamin I have on hand and it shows 50 mcg of B12, indicating that is 833% RDA? can that be right? If so then can a suitable quality multivitamin can be enough? are you pro or con on taking those?
No, I would not worry about too much B12. If you are vegetarian I recommend at least every few years measuring your methylmalonic acid to make sure what you are doing is working.
yes, my kidney doc is testing the MMA and I will know soon. thanks!
There is no reference to the importance of chewing properly, releasing saliva which is rich in haptocorrin. Also cobalt is vital for proper synthesis, not to mention stomach acid to properly digest the food.
MB your comment would be super interesting if you just left it as your contribution instead of framing it as a criticism of what I didn't say. It's unreasonable to expect me to give a comprehensive analysis in a 5 minute video. The whole purpose of these videos is to be short.
Chris I was many years ago ill and had very low in b12 now have injections as live in uk
had stomach sample showing intrinsic factor score of 1 in 0-5 range
can intrinsic factor repair/improve or if lost is it gone for good ?
thanks
marcus
Marcus I don't know much about treating pernicious anemia but it is thought to be autoimmune in nature and I don't think anyone has found a way to reverse it.
No T for me but I will continue drinking coffee regardless.
Yogurt for lacto-vegetarian?
Marmite is a good option.
All this getting your vitamins from food is good, if your food source is not commercial. Unfortunately, advising the average person to go to the store and eat liver from cows loaded with antibiotics, pesticides, and glyphosate is not such a great idea to me, i would sooner take supplements. Further, bottom feeding clams, oysters, etc. may be just as toxic with chemicals and heavy metals. If you can get natural and organic, it is a great idea.
Yes, quality matters.
Not commercial means someone gave it to you as a gift or you grew/hunted it yourself.
@@lh2435 Technically and semantically yes, but in the vernacular it is referring to food from small purveyors that focus on quality, and practice organic methods of growing and production. To draw a distinction, chicken from say Tyson will be replete with pesticides, fungicides, herbicides, growth hormones, antibiotics, etc., but chickens from a local farmer (you have to verify) will either have none, or less of that stuff. They are both 'selling', but one is using CAFO methods where the other one isn't, and one of the two, I'll let you guess which one, cares more about profits than quality.