boutta get canceled with this one /j ❗️❗️ no guys seriously please watch the ENTIRE video before canceling me you can't see bsd through black and white I also gen can't believe that some people don't think dazai wasn't at least manipulated by mori 😭🙏 any way stay tuned for a possible reaction video on the 24/25.
You’re too goated some people just love being dense, complex, ignorant, and just weird! Simple minded people, not understanding what trauma is like what? You have to understand comparing trauma isn’t right. It just belittles someone own pain making them thing they don’t deserve anything. Anyway ILYSM for this vid (and hate u cuz of the “All we See is Sky” fanfic) ❤
I’M ACTUALLY SO HAPPY YOU POINTED THIS OUT. PEOPLE USUALLY ONLY LOOK AT THE TIP OF THE ICEBERG AND BRUSH IT OFF WHICH OFTEN LEADS TO MISCHARACTERISATION. IT DOESN’T MATTER WHETHER A CHARACTER IS ATTRACTIVE OR NOT. THEY’RE NOT ‘SILLY’. BSD BRINGS THE SPOTLIGHT TO PROBLEMS OF US AS HUMANITY. THE FACT THAT PEOPLE DON’T LOOK DEEPER INTO THINGS SAYS A LOT.
this was perfect, im so glad to have an intelligent person such as yourself in the fandom. this is coming from someone who HEAVILY relates to many themes present in akutagawa's character, and consider him to be my favorite character. he is not justified. he is not a good person. abuse is NEVER okay, and trying to say "well it's just fiction!!" is just admitting that you have no media literacy nor empathy. thank you for making this
I agree with almost everything in this video, however I'd disagree with the fact that Chuuya doesn't dream. While the first line of stormbringer does say that "Nakahara Chuuya does not dream.", it's important to read the rest of even the first chapter, as it says "His awakening was similar to muddy bubbles rising to the surface. Chuuya opened his eyes to find himself in his room. [...] Chuuya sat up. He was sweating a little around his chest, a reminder of some sort of violent emotion that had swirled around inside of him like a whirlpool in the sea. But what that emotion was, he couldn't remember. That always seemed to be the case, these days." I believe it implies that he does dream and that he just simply doesn't remember his dreams, meaning the first sentence is either metaphorical or something Chuuya believes himself. I think what I stated is from a fan-translation so I edited it into the official (?) one, mb!!
ILYSM FOR THIS OMG BC ALOT PEOPLE IGNORE THE FACT THAT HIGUCHI IS ABUSED FROM AKUTAGAWA AND THAT ‘JUST A SLAP’ IS MORE ALSO PEOPLE DEFEND CHARACTERS OR JUSTIFY THEIR ACTIONS JUST BC THEY ARE HOT OR THEY ARE THEIR FAVORITE CHARACTER LIKE THAT DOESNT TAKE BACK ALL THE TERRIBLE THINGS THEY’VE DONE 😭🙏
THANK YOU FOR POINTING THIS OUT I swear, the people in this fandom srsly.. Bsd is complicated, it has a lot of depth, but really- just brushing aside a character's wrongdoings just because they're attractive and they like the character?! Bsd itself is such an amazing manga, with how well planned the plot is and the character depth. But I hate seeing the fandom base it on misconceptions and purely biased opinions. 2:51 I'm glad how you mention this, especially cash's video on mori- even I had a hard time knowing what to think of him before seeing the video. It's very good, I'd recommend it any time. 3:39 i completely agree, i absolutely hate it when people just dismiss the female characters like that, purely because they're biased towards the male characters and attracted to them.
Ykw, im happy to see someone made this, i watched the whole video and fr though, i love dazai and hes my favourite, but his actions srent the best just like any other character in the show, still love the show fr though
honestly so glad you made this, so many people miss some of these things (like the abuse stuff) and i agree with pretty much everything here. i mean besides chuuya does dream (although people have pointed that out so im not going to again) and i will always fight for my skk but people do need to chill out about it cause i agree that people shouldn't get mad at others for not shipping something. one other thing i would like to say is that while i COMPLETELY agree that atsushi's flashbacks aren't annoying, they are portrayed soooo badly in the anime that i see where people are coming from in that aspect (if they are anime watching only), the anime really missed it on atushi's flashbacks tbh
dude thank u for saying this geninuely so many people dont realise this stuff and they just pick and choose what they wanna hear, and act like its factual when it isnt- this fandom is so weird and im geninuely not blaming people not wanting to be apart of it- the fact people still see dazai and mori as "son and father" relationship makes me concerned- like *heavily* concerned- but thanks for making this video!
also edit bc i think i wanna say this- PLEASE CAN PEOPLE NOT MAKE THE NURSE SCENE LIKE SOMETHING GOOD AAA- dude iv seen people say "i wanna be the nurse" or "clearly he was good if she wants more" LIKE BRUH WHAT......... dude im not saiyng its wrong for a grown man to consent to acts like that, but he wasnt in the state of that, and she shouldnt of agreed- like what- (also im not 100% sure if it was consenting? some said it wasnt but im not gonna say for 100% if it was or not, either way, gross nurse !!) (this is not an edit i mean like add one lmao)
BRO THIS IS SO FACTUAL, AS AN AKUTAGAWA STAN IM SO TIRED OF PEOPLE IGNORING HIS ABUSE TOWARDS OTHERS AND DISREGARDING IT JUST BECAUSE OF THOSE TWO SIMPLE PHRASES HE SAID
More people need to hear this and ACTUALLY TRY TO UNDERSTAND it! There are always close-minded people in every fanfom so I'm not saying they have to totally,for me they can very well disagree or stay in their delusion, but dude can they stop being so rude & toxic to other fans. :/
You're sooo cringe for making my daddy muffin cheesecake sweetpie cutie patootie emo wifey aku seem bad you evil disney villain i will curse you to have mori nightmares /j
People always forgets the fact that higuchi is in the abuse cycle. (my personal take on the abuse cycle is same as yours.) and as you said,hating on Dazai because what he did to akutagawa but not hating akutagawa while knowing what he did to kyouka is so ridiculous. İ sometimes see akutagawa fans hating on dazai with "he abused akutagawa" , then i say "akutagawa abused kyouka too." then they disappear. Always the same. And the soukoku part was so real,skk has a lot of toxic fans. The toxic fans are always like "Skk canon you cant ship anything other than this!!" (💀). Like bro just put the fries on the bag🙏 (let us have our ships.) And the underrated opinion: ship wars and bones ruined bsd. SO TALK LOUDER PLEASE.
My responses: 1. Me and Higuchi kiss when? 2. Akutagawa is developing more (I have a whole Oda comparisons to Akutagawa thing I could go into more detail about) but that wouldn’t of been caused without Kyouka leaving, Higuchi saving him, and Atsushi making that promise with him. 3. Everything with chuuya correct! Chuuya doesn’t dream (he most likely does but can’t remember), Q killed many of Chuuya comrades. Chuuya is such an interesting character. And finally, 4. THE SKK THING.. as a multishipper that leans towards Kunizai it’s always so annoying to find comments under Kunizai videos ABOUT Skk this also applies to other ships; Especially if the creator makes skk content as well. Videos saying “I don’t like skk” or something around those lines usually get flamed while people saying that about any other ships including Dazai usually have people agreeing. Sorry if this was a ramble😓😓 edit: ALSO KUNIKIDA IS SO MISCHARACTERIZED IN THIS FANDOM ITS INSANE..
dude people that disregard the proper ab$se web pmo so bad , like yes we know what DAZAI ab$sed akutagawa not just physically but also mentally but the way people ignore/excuse akutagawa for the ab$se to higuchi and kyouka ohmygod dont get me starttttedd. if your gonna justify akutagawa then lets talk about justifying dazai and mori? but then NO one would agree there. if youre going to make some sorta case or a random attempt of defending one of their actions towards the people they have obviously ab$sed in all different ways, then you must follow that excuse for ALLL of the ab$sers. but then people would clearly disagree which would lead to you being wrong. the bsd fandom always chucks the lore away and makes up shit and CLAIMS its CANON. thats the crap that pmo
I will never get why some people hate on other people that doesnt like or not ship the same thing as them 😭🙏 (Dont mind my grammar🤩) This vid needs more attention!
I also agree with the sexualizing characters getting injured Its just weird... (I'm sorry about my horrible grammar... It's so shitty today I dont know why)
@Autumn-xs1bt I hate sexualizing too I won't deny that I would probably say smth like "he's so bbg" and stuff but... I wouldn't go that far😭 It's just weird yk..
EXACTLY comparing trauma is just strange on its own and instead of comparing it, you should understand their perspectives instead of brushing it off like ‘its the mafia lol’ abuse isnt okay even if its in fiction and you cant compare it even if it is fictional or not
Not to be a toxic shiper but I will fight you on the not skk Being canon I know it’s not canon but their is something their more then hate but I do agree people should be allowed to to ship what they want as long as it’s legal also chuuya can dream but he does not remember what he dreams about Cause people can do that by saying chuuya can’t will make people believe he is not human when he clearly is that all and last side unfortunately that will never stop being people are silly and like to do wrong things and put it out-their as usual .
oh im not saying they hate each other, im just saying they're not canon, and i aware that chuuya DOES dream, he just doesnt remember, someone has already informed me :))
I think the Atsushi's flashback are annoying came from the anime and how his flashback were almost always the same scene, instead of showing any thing different and giving us a better insight, they just replayed the same scene to the point it got annoying and didn't properly show how much the orphanage hurt him. For me i found it extremely annoying since I knew his trauma was more than just that one scene as no ones trauma in bsd was so uncomplicated, like the anime made it seem at times that his trauma was nothing more than that . I might've forgotten a few thing so pls correct me if i did.
@@missusfancyhat real like i'm an anime only watcher since my parents won't buy me any manga but like i've seen panels as well as people talking abt the manga vs anime so like even w/o reading it you can see how much bones changed it. tbh there are some good scenes tho
It's importan to also consider the context where the abuse of Dazai towards Akutagawa was carried out. The excuse of "it's the port mafia, what did you expect?" It's just an explanation. Both Higuchi and Akutagawa were obviously influenced by the environment. Dazai just used violence since that is PM's method. And justify it by saying "everyone's like that in the PM" does NOT excuse his actions. He was a cruel mentor because the ENVIRONMENT around him was cruel. Akutagawa was teached like that, so that *explains* his treatment towards Higuchi. Thank you very much for this video, I'm relief that there is a small percentage of the fandom that has functional braincells. I'm genuinely exhausted of all the crazy theories and conclusions people come out with. I mean, of course EVERY interpretation of the anime and manga has a filter of subjectivity, but there are some that are an straight delusion.
Alright. I think this is not a BSD fandom problem, but the *sub* sub-culture within tiktok (also, see: pinterest and twitter). Well done on doing your research and being unbiased for the most part of the video!! I agree that people diminishing characters' abuse and trauma because it isn't "as bad" is utterly horrible. If these people are saying these things about fiction, how do they handle real life situations? Have some empathy people, damn. (tw) Also, THANK YOU for pointing out that Mori DID NOT sexually ab*se Dazai. So many idiots in this fandom are obsessed with that baseless headcanon to the point it feels fetishistic. However, I do agree with the headcanon that characters like Dazai and Kyouka were taught to use their bodies/"attractiveness" to their advantage, but not physically taught so if that makes sense. A l s o (apologies for the rant)- I think there are some misunderstandings about Atsushi's flashbacks being "annoying". If these people are referring to the anime, then it is most likely the recycling of his abuse scenes, but c'mon. Don't be nitpicky. Animation studios recycle animation all the time (see: Disney. DISNEY.) Also, I actually think these scenes, though a bit repetative, translate how intrusive traumatic memories can be. I appreciate that, coming back to watch season 1 again. All in all well done on the video! Sorry for the rant-
boutta get canceled with this one /j ❗️❗️
no guys seriously please watch the ENTIRE video before canceling me
you can't see bsd through black and white
I also gen can't believe that some people don't think dazai wasn't at least manipulated by mori 😭🙏
any way stay tuned for a possible reaction video on the 24/25.
@@missusfancyhat I feel like dazai definitely got manipulated by mori
You’re too goated some people just love being dense, complex, ignorant, and just weird! Simple minded people, not understanding what trauma is like what? You have to understand comparing trauma isn’t right. It just belittles someone own pain making them thing they don’t deserve anything. Anyway ILYSM for this vid (and hate u cuz of the “All we See is Sky” fanfic) ❤
I’M ACTUALLY SO HAPPY YOU POINTED THIS OUT. PEOPLE USUALLY ONLY LOOK AT THE TIP OF THE ICEBERG AND BRUSH IT OFF WHICH OFTEN LEADS TO MISCHARACTERISATION. IT DOESN’T MATTER WHETHER A CHARACTER IS ATTRACTIVE OR NOT. THEY’RE NOT ‘SILLY’. BSD BRINGS THE SPOTLIGHT TO PROBLEMS OF US AS HUMANITY. THE FACT THAT PEOPLE DON’T LOOK DEEPER INTO THINGS SAYS A LOT.
I heavily agree with you on this
But Dazai is just so…so silly…/j
this was perfect, im so glad to have an intelligent person such as yourself in the fandom. this is coming from someone who HEAVILY relates to many themes present in akutagawa's character, and consider him to be my favorite character. he is not justified. he is not a good person. abuse is NEVER okay, and trying to say "well it's just fiction!!" is just admitting that you have no media literacy nor empathy. thank you for making this
I agree with almost everything in this video, however I'd disagree with the fact that Chuuya doesn't dream.
While the first line of stormbringer does say that "Nakahara Chuuya does not dream.", it's important to read the rest of even the first chapter, as it says
"His awakening was similar to muddy bubbles rising to the surface.
Chuuya opened his eyes to find himself in his room.
[...]
Chuuya sat up. He was sweating a little around his chest, a reminder of some sort of violent emotion that had swirled around inside of him like a whirlpool in the sea. But what that emotion was, he couldn't remember.
That always seemed to be the case, these days."
I believe it implies that he does dream and that he just simply doesn't remember his dreams, meaning the first sentence is either metaphorical or something Chuuya believes himself.
I think what I stated is from a fan-translation so I edited it into the official (?) one, mb!!
ooooo thats my sign to reread stormbringer :))) thank you for that!
@@missusfancyhat you're welcome!!
ILYSM FOR THIS OMG BC ALOT PEOPLE IGNORE THE FACT THAT HIGUCHI IS ABUSED FROM AKUTAGAWA AND THAT ‘JUST A SLAP’ IS MORE ALSO PEOPLE DEFEND CHARACTERS OR JUSTIFY THEIR ACTIONS JUST BC THEY ARE HOT OR THEY ARE THEIR FAVORITE CHARACTER LIKE THAT DOESNT TAKE BACK ALL THE TERRIBLE THINGS THEY’VE DONE 😭🙏
THANK YOU FOR POINTING THIS OUT
I swear, the people in this fandom srsly.. Bsd is complicated, it has a lot of depth, but really- just brushing aside a character's wrongdoings just because they're attractive and they like the character?! Bsd itself is such an amazing manga, with how well planned the plot is and the character depth. But I hate seeing the fandom base it on misconceptions and purely biased opinions. 2:51 I'm glad how you mention this, especially cash's video on mori- even I had a hard time knowing what to think of him before seeing the video. It's very good, I'd recommend it any time. 3:39 i completely agree, i absolutely hate it when people just dismiss the female characters like that, purely because they're biased towards the male characters and attracted to them.
this genuinely needs to be shared and heard I’m tired of seeing people just brush off all the shit that happens.
Ykw, im happy to see someone made this, i watched the whole video and fr though, i love dazai and hes my favourite, but his actions srent the best just like any other character in the show, still love the show fr though
honestly so glad you made this, so many people miss some of these things (like the abuse stuff) and i agree with pretty much everything here. i mean besides chuuya does dream (although people have pointed that out so im not going to again) and i will always fight for my skk but people do need to chill out about it cause i agree that people shouldn't get mad at others for not shipping something. one other thing i would like to say is that while i COMPLETELY agree that atsushi's flashbacks aren't annoying, they are portrayed soooo badly in the anime that i see where people are coming from in that aspect (if they are anime watching only), the anime really missed it on atushi's flashbacks tbh
SAY IT LOUDER FOR THE PEOPLE IN THE BACK, YOUR HONOR!!!!
dude thank u for saying this geninuely so many people dont realise this stuff and they just pick and choose what they wanna hear, and act like its factual when it isnt- this fandom is so weird and im geninuely not blaming people not wanting to be apart of it- the fact people still see dazai and mori as "son and father" relationship makes me concerned- like *heavily* concerned- but thanks for making this video!
also edit bc i think i wanna say this- PLEASE CAN PEOPLE NOT MAKE THE NURSE SCENE LIKE SOMETHING GOOD AAA- dude iv seen people say "i wanna be the nurse" or "clearly he was good if she wants more" LIKE BRUH WHAT......... dude im not saiyng its wrong for a grown man to consent to acts like that, but he wasnt in the state of that, and she shouldnt of agreed- like what- (also im not 100% sure if it was consenting? some said it wasnt but im not gonna say for 100% if it was or not, either way, gross nurse !!) (this is not an edit i mean like add one lmao)
BRO THIS IS SO FACTUAL, AS AN AKUTAGAWA STAN IM SO TIRED OF PEOPLE IGNORING HIS ABUSE TOWARDS OTHERS AND DISREGARDING IT JUST BECAUSE OF THOSE TWO SIMPLE PHRASES HE SAID
TY FOR POINTING THIS OUT, I was literally fighting people in the comments 😭
More people need to hear this and ACTUALLY TRY TO UNDERSTAND it!
There are always close-minded people in every fanfom so I'm not saying they have to totally,for me they can very well disagree or stay in their delusion, but dude can they stop being so rude & toxic to other fans. :/
*3:42* OMFG THIS IS SO REAL
You're sooo cringe for making my daddy muffin cheesecake sweetpie cutie patootie emo wifey aku seem bad you evil disney villain i will curse you to have mori nightmares /j
People always forgets the fact that higuchi is in the abuse cycle. (my personal take on the abuse cycle is same as yours.) and as you said,hating on Dazai because what he did to akutagawa but not hating akutagawa while knowing what he did to kyouka is so ridiculous. İ sometimes see akutagawa fans hating on dazai with "he abused akutagawa" , then i say "akutagawa abused kyouka too." then they disappear. Always the same. And the soukoku part was so real,skk has a lot of toxic fans. The toxic fans are always like "Skk canon you cant ship anything other than this!!" (💀). Like bro just put the fries on the bag🙏 (let us have our ships.)
And the underrated opinion: ship wars and bones ruined bsd.
SO TALK LOUDER PLEASE.
THANK YOU
My responses: 1. Me and Higuchi kiss when? 2. Akutagawa is developing more (I have a whole Oda comparisons to Akutagawa thing I could go into more detail about) but that wouldn’t of been caused without Kyouka leaving, Higuchi saving him, and Atsushi making that promise with him. 3. Everything with chuuya correct! Chuuya doesn’t dream (he most likely does but can’t remember), Q killed many of Chuuya comrades. Chuuya is such an interesting character. And finally, 4. THE SKK THING.. as a multishipper that leans towards Kunizai it’s always so annoying to find comments under Kunizai videos ABOUT Skk this also applies to other ships; Especially if the creator makes skk content as well. Videos saying “I don’t like skk” or something around those lines usually get flamed while people saying that about any other ships including Dazai usually have people agreeing. Sorry if this was a ramble😓😓 edit: ALSO KUNIKIDA IS SO MISCHARACTERIZED IN THIS FANDOM ITS INSANE..
dude people that disregard the proper ab$se web pmo so bad , like yes we know what DAZAI ab$sed akutagawa not just physically but also mentally but the way people ignore/excuse akutagawa for the ab$se to higuchi and kyouka ohmygod dont get me starttttedd. if your gonna justify akutagawa then lets talk about justifying dazai and mori? but then NO one would agree there. if youre going to make some sorta case or a random attempt of defending one of their actions towards the people they have obviously ab$sed in all different ways, then you must follow that excuse for ALLL of the ab$sers. but then people would clearly disagree which would lead to you being wrong. the bsd fandom always chucks the lore away and makes up shit and CLAIMS its CANON. thats the crap that pmo
Omg THANK YOU for calling it out! You are 100% right!
I will never get why some people hate on other people that doesnt like or not ship the same thing as them 😭🙏
(Dont mind my grammar🤩)
This vid needs more attention!
I also agree with the sexualizing characters getting injured
Its just weird...
(I'm sorry about my horrible grammar... It's so shitty today I dont know why)
@@DeadLikeOdasakuAndKunikida I hate sexualizing character in general, like it's so weird I'm sorry 😭
@Autumn-xs1bt
I hate sexualizing too
I won't deny that I would probably say smth like "he's so bbg" and stuff but...
I wouldn't go that far😭
It's just weird yk..
BSD characters and their love for Yokohama
THANK YOU😭
EXACTLY comparing trauma is just strange on its own and instead of comparing it, you should understand their perspectives instead of brushing it off like ‘its the mafia lol’ abuse isnt okay even if its in fiction and you cant compare it even if it is fictional or not
Not to be a toxic shiper but I will fight you on the not skk Being canon I know it’s not canon but their is something their more then hate but I do agree people should be allowed to to ship what they want as long as it’s legal also chuuya can dream but he does not remember what he dreams about Cause people can do that by saying chuuya can’t will make people believe he is not human when he clearly is that all and last side unfortunately that will never stop being people are silly and like to do wrong things and put it out-their as usual .
oh im not saying they hate each other, im just saying they're not canon, and i aware that chuuya DOES dream, he just doesnt remember, someone has already informed me :))
@ ok apart from that I do agree with everything else
I think the Atsushi's flashback are annoying came from the anime and how his flashback were almost always the same scene, instead of showing any thing different and giving us a better insight, they just replayed the same scene to the point it got annoying and didn't properly show how much the orphanage hurt him. For me i found it extremely annoying since I knew his trauma was more than just that one scene as no ones trauma in bsd was so uncomplicated, like the anime made it seem at times that his trauma was nothing more than that . I might've forgotten a few thing so pls correct me if i did.
The anime just ruins everything tbh... I really wish it would have gone to a different studio
@@missusfancyhat real like i'm an anime only watcher since my parents won't buy me any manga but like i've seen panels as well as people talking abt the manga vs anime so like even w/o reading it you can see how much bones changed it. tbh there are some good scenes tho
@@theforgotten_writer def some gems i agree!
PREACH 🗣️‼️💥
Thank you.
first at what cost
It's importan to also consider the context where the abuse of Dazai towards Akutagawa was carried out. The excuse of "it's the port mafia, what did you expect?" It's just an explanation. Both Higuchi and Akutagawa were obviously influenced by the environment. Dazai just used violence since that is PM's method. And justify it by saying "everyone's like that in the PM" does NOT excuse his actions. He was a cruel mentor because the ENVIRONMENT around him was cruel. Akutagawa was teached like that, so that *explains* his treatment towards Higuchi.
Thank you very much for this video, I'm relief that there is a small percentage of the fandom that has functional braincells. I'm genuinely exhausted of all the crazy theories and conclusions people come out with. I mean, of course EVERY interpretation of the anime and manga has a filter of subjectivity, but there are some that are an straight delusion.
GRÍTALO REINE 🗣🗣🗣‼‼‼‼
Alright. I think this is not a BSD fandom problem, but the *sub* sub-culture within tiktok (also, see: pinterest and twitter). Well done on doing your research and being unbiased for the most part of the video!! I agree that people diminishing characters' abuse and trauma because it isn't "as bad" is utterly horrible. If these people are saying these things about fiction, how do they handle real life situations? Have some empathy people, damn.
(tw) Also, THANK YOU for pointing out that Mori DID NOT sexually ab*se Dazai. So many idiots in this fandom are obsessed with that baseless headcanon to the point it feels fetishistic. However, I do agree with the headcanon that characters like Dazai and Kyouka were taught to use their bodies/"attractiveness" to their advantage, but not physically taught so if that makes sense. A l s o (apologies for the rant)- I think there are some misunderstandings about Atsushi's flashbacks being "annoying". If these people are referring to the anime, then it is most likely the recycling of his abuse scenes, but c'mon. Don't be nitpicky. Animation studios recycle animation all the time (see: Disney. DISNEY.) Also, I actually think these scenes, though a bit repetative, translate how intrusive traumatic memories can be. I appreciate that, coming back to watch season 1 again.
All in all well done on the video! Sorry for the rant-
FACTS TY
yoooo just wanted to say I LOVE THESE TAKES SM!!! love your media literacy fr