Brotherhood of the Wolf (2001) - Deep Dive
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 20 ก.ย. 2024
- The Deep Dive crew gets real [Soul Calibur/Dark Souls/Bloodbourne/skaggy/revolutionary] on this episode with 2001 French odyssey Brotherhood of the Wolf. Can we get some AWOOs in the chat?
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That weird schadenfreude you feel when your favourite movies just keep showing up on Deep Dive.
Like you keep getting to see awesome humans talking about your favs, but at some point it's going to have an impact on your psyche.
Schadenfreude is finding joy in someone else’s misfortune? How does that apply?
@@thedapperdolphin1590 It's laughing at my own misfortune. I have the movie equivalent of being tonedeaf, and while it used to bum me out (especially during the Angry Nerd Hates Film phase of film critique) I now laugh at the part of my brain that just keeps stumbling into Bad Choices.
@@thedapperdolphin1590 I’m glad you said it….they typed it, it didn’t feel right…thank you for saving the google search
That weird schadenfreude you feel when your favourite people have babies but you're still a free man who can sleep 8h every night.
Brennan Lee Mulligan, CEO of Oreo: The fact that the Snack Time segment will never run out of material is my greatest failing as a CEO, and honestly, a human being
Thank you for tying those two together. I love Brennan. I will think of that skit everytime they go to Oreos now.
My favorite line from that bit is "Choked by a sinful GLUT!"
Wtf.... i haven't watched yet but BLM makes an appearance...
I will glut that sin
Amazing
Fun history fact, Chaviniac (the larger Marq that contains Gevaudan) is the family seat of the Marquis de Lafayette of American Revolution fame. He would often tell stories of pretending to hunt the Beast in the nearby forest as a child. (The narrator of this movie would likely have been playing his father)
"Deep Dive" has become like finding a $10 bill in my pocket... something that I should keep better track of but am utterly delighted to be surprised by.
Also, like "Sky Capitan", this is a movie that I didn't know was poorly regarded enough to warrant a Deep Dive... yet, I can still kinda see why.
Sky Captain is such a freaking fever dream. I honestly wasn't sure if it was a real movie or something my brain just made up until they watched it.
Yeah, how the H-E-Double-Hockey-Sticks did this end up classified as a "bad movie"?? This movie is AMAZING
I didn't know people didn't like this movie 👀 I really enjoyed it. It was so different and melded a bunch of different styles and genres so I really enjoyed it: Fairy Tale, Urban Legend, Science vs. Magic, Mystery, Historical Drama, Martial Arts, Political Intrigue, Romantic Triangle, Class and Culture Clashes, Vengeance Mission, etc.
"The Beast" gets capitalized because like "The Ripper" this is the shorthand by which it became known. Its full moniker is "The Beast of Gévaudan." This movie is very similar to "From Hell" in that it is weaving multiple legends, myths, and conspiracy theories about a real series of events (a series of brutal slayings in a specific region of France) into a single story. As with Jack the Ripper, the truth has sort of been lost to all the myth-making. And like "The Ghost and the Darkness" a large number of people really did lose their lives. Estimates range everywhere from 60 - 500 people slain by The Beast. The Beast might have been an actual animal, or an extremely prolific serial killer, or a government sponsored culling to keep the peasantry in line. A lion was one of the animals proposed as the beast (either somehow the last of a surviving European lion pride that should have gone extinct centuries ago or an escaped circus animal). As was a wolf, wolf-dog hybrid, or pack of wolves. The Beast of Gévaudan is also been claimed to have been a werewolf. It is a really interesting bit of history that more people should check out.
i've always loved this movie and reject any attempted association with "bad"
With you. So much of my childhood… I think about the furry fish scene everytime someone tries to BS me.
This movie is awesome and nobody will convince me otherwise.
@@SeanMintus i didn’t know it was commonly known outside of France. People actually watch our movies abroad?
@@ameldell5180 Tout à fait
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I saw both the French with English subtitles, and the dubbed version in a theater. In the 90’s, far more movies made it to theaters, even in smaller towns.
Nowadays, it’s the same movies
playing at every theater, with a random place having older movies, and/or smaller productions.
I loved this movie, and it introduced me to Monica Belucci.
It may sound silly to say, but the Deep Dive series really does feel like sitting down with a group of friends and just having a good time. I rewatch this series regularly.
Hello Rose and how are you doing today?
that's not silly, it's kinda the entire point of deep dive to feel like that
No new episodes in well over a year, all you can do is rewatch old episodes at this point.
Loved this movie. Loved the fact that the Furry Trout isn't a plot device for the Sergeant-at-Arms, but foreshadowing for the audience that The Beast isn't 'Natural', but man-made. Gorgeous movie.
Ahah It's so cool seeing you expericen this movie as a french persone. It's a really special film for our french production, it was one of the few attempt to produce a movie "a la Hollywood" (but with a french touch bc we are chauvin ahah).
Funfact : The Beast of Gevaudant, is a french enigma, but a real story, there was a case of multiple "beast" attacks against humans. It was suspected to be wolf or dogs, but it did mobilised a lot of royal soldiers. But at the end nobody really know what or why people were attacked. Of course with time it kind of became kind of a folk tale.
Fun fact: This movie has the same cinematographer as the John Wick films!
This does not surprise me ❤
Which starred Dacoscas in one of them…
"Don't sign the murder ones!" Absolutely brilliant graphics work on that one. 😂 It's always a gift to get a new Deep Dive. I'm voting Tank Girl for the next one because there simply is no better choice for a woman kicking ass!!! 💪
Just watched Tank Girl, for the first time, a few weeks ago. I'd love to see how they feel about it.
I love this film. And not ironically. This isn’t one of those “it’s so bad, it’s good” flicks. I don’t know anyone that dislikes this film!
Same!
Hell yeah! Everyone I have shown this movie too has loved it.
Agreed! I was so glad to find out it's finally back on Prime for rent!
I just (randomly) rewatched this a week ago. Such a great movie.
I staggard out of the theater when I first saw this, not entirely certain what I'd just seen. I love this mess.
Thats a baby!
I can not see anything else!
BABIES ARE AMAZING!
I am having the same reaction. I want to hear them talk about the movie - but I keep getting distracted as my brain yells "Baby!"
Another great Deep Dive video, thanks so much. And, I love that the Deep Dive crew is now five strong on the couch - love seeing the little one snuggled up with you all there.
I kinda want to know what "the scene" in question is, but on the other hand I don't because I'm certain I'll regret it.
They are referring to an unnecessary rape scene involving Marianne, the main love interest, and Vince Cassel's character (the primary antagonist and older brother of the Marianne) that didn't have a place in this film.
I get depressed when I see my favourite movies showing up here...but at least they bring some folks some joy...
This is my first time watching a Deep Dive video. It popped up in my recommendations and I clicked on it because I wanted to see a video about Brotherhood of the Wolf. The opening text took me completely by surprise. Who the hell considers Brotherhood of the Wolf to be a bad movie?
Honestly, I absolutely loved this movie when it came out and was super stoked to see it. Genuinely shocked to see it in the Deep Dive box, but I think it held its own.
My favorite part is the “doc” bringing her fingers together during the lamb girl discussion. Thank you.
I could genuinely watch yall do an episode where you watch CSPAN all day and enjoy every second. You're just that delightful. Whenever I watch an episode I'm like, "Awww. I remember what having friends was like...sigh...I miss that." You all so genuinely enjoy each other's company and it makes this just lovely to watch.
No one considers this "a bad movie". On the contrary it's very highly regarded.
One of my all time favorites! Brought me no end of of joy that you guys had such great things to say. Glad you guys liked it!
Congrats on your baby Zoe!! Sending you and your family well wishes!!
Hello Allison and how are you doing?
I have MISSED deep dive I am so excited every notification I get! the cinematography on this looked so gorgeous, and I wish more movies were colored this vibrantly because goddamn!!
I don't know of anybody who actually saw this as considering it 'bad'. If anything it was highly overlooked by an American audience that still had predispositions on what French made films were. It is an odd fusion of horror, martial arts action, and period drama that shouldn't work on paper let alone the big screen, and yet it does. What's even more insane is it is fairly accurate to historical accounts both in actual events and the wilder aspects are based on the popular conspiracy theories of its time. It is a truly unique experience that, as best I'm aware of, hasn't been done before or since.
Who sent you this as a BAD movie??? This film is awesome!
*Right. Whoever thought "Brotherhood Of The Wolf" is a BAD movie, probably thinks that "Showgirls" is AWESOME.*
⬅🧐😈
Mikey's "well" at 22:59 is so perfectly timed, comedic gold
I was like "do I see a baby in this video" so I'm glad you left the interjection cry in so I knew I wasn't crazy.
I adore the Deep Dive series. It really seems like the headline for this one has to be "Local Frenchman Literally Too Angry To Die."
Mark Dacascos is the B-Movie version of The Rock in that any film he's in benefits from his presence. He just bumps the fun and coolness up a notch. If ever you guys get the chance you should watch the extended cut of Drive starring him and Brittany Murphy. Absolutely fantastic action flick that should be canonised as an all timer.
I watched this when I was a kid, super stoked to see a Native guy in there, but me and my brothers went to it and were like "Hell yeah, Natives represent... I mean, he's going to die, but hopefully he is a badass for a bit at least?"
Also the Native guy is clearly Asian.
Someone send them "Reign of Fire" please. I need the Drago-pocalypse with a wonderfully intense McConaughey performance.
That movie fell apart halfway through, but I will defend the glory of that first dragon appearance until my dying day. Gorgeous.
Yep, it was Ivy. The tatas were more bodacious than strictly necessary, but the chain sword whip thing was awesome.
Also, Tank Girl please please please pretty please with Oreos on top.
Complete tangent, but I was halfway through the video before I noticed the baby hanging out there. It wasn't until I literally heard the words "Since I had a baby..." while the baby was tugging at her arm.
Not sure if we're just being treated to the best takes and clever editing, or if that's just a super well behaved infant.
Aaah! So glad you're back! You guys are so much fun; I wanna be part of your friendship!
Zoe's baby got me like 🥰 30 seconds in.
Love you guys! Thanks for all the fish!
I'd seen this in theaters, bought the DVD as soon as I could, and showed it to my classmates in our college dorm. I shit you not, there was a room full of dudes (and ladies) openly weeping by the end. This is a glorious film, sumptuous to the point of excess, and it's absolutely one of my faves. Thanks for the deep dive.
i watched this with my bestie when i was a kid and it made such a HUGE impact on me, we loved it, and spent the entirety of bloodborne going 'oh that's brotherhood of the wolf'
I loved Brotherhood of the wolf when I originally saw it and this has reminded me why. Also, Tank Girl probably ranks in my top 10 movies ever.
You guys got me thinking and I believe Vincent Cassel has been a good guy in at least one movie (as far as I recall): "La Haine". It's a good one, the kind that will fuck you up and make you angry, but also more empathetic and hopefully wiser (not to mention more radical)
He was also the Beast in a French live-action version of Beauty and the Beast. Gosh, the amount of movies I've watched only because he was in them... :)
OK, I was not expecting a 5-second Weird Al dance party
Pretty sure I rented this from Blockbuster back in the day. It took me 5 or so minutes of watching y'alls awesome "review" for it to slowly come back that I had seen Brotherhood of the Wolf🤣🤣🤣
Thanks for dragging this up front the depths of my mind. Pretty sure I'll be rewatching this tomorrow night, just for the heck of it!!!!
Watched this film as a kid and loved it! I never realized it was considered a "bad" film, but this video has made me want to revisit the movie.
This movie is very indulgent, but totally worth it. It is basically a slow burn, low fantasy D&D campaign come to life, and I remember thinking it was wild when it came out.
I'd never seen this one but my partner was ECSTATIC when I said this movie was up for the Deep Dive treatment. They watched it in the theater aged 14, with their mom, and had a great time.
Also yeah that bone-chain-sword is very Mortal Kombat, what is with movies of this era and needing to have weapons they didn't manage to squeeze into Wild Wild West
I appreciated the Weird Al nod during snack time, Mikey.
Congratulations on the brand new little one! 😄
And the Deep Dive chest was never seen again.
"He's probably fine. Well, um... I think he can pull this one off. Well..."
I unashamedly love this movie. Saw this as a Blockbuster rental when I was a bit too young and couldn't remember the name of it until many years later when it was cited as an inspiration for design in Bloodborne. I bought an international Blu-ray once I realized, and imho this movie still holds up. Sure it has goofy and/or dated aspects, but that just makes it all the more enjoyable for me personally. I'm just glad to see it get any discourse whatsoever. Thanks for covering this movie Filmjoy, I love your content!
It’s a lion. They talk about the one armed brother’s expedition into Africa a few times. They hint that he came back with the animal.
Lmao me immediately liking this video before watching because I just reflexively love Deep Dive 😂😂
Congrats on Deep Dive The Next Generation joining the couch!! Squeee!!!
RIP Deep Dive.
Half my brain watched the deep dive, the other half quoted puppet history's episode on The Beast of Gevaudan
Hello Clare and how are you doing?
I can't explain how much I would love to see a deep dive episode on "Sucker Punch". Looking back now it seems like Zack Snyder made that movie with this very show in his mind: It is full of interesting ideas, that end up being as deep as a puddle. Also a post-High-School-Musical but pre-Netflix-Christmas-Movie Vanessa Hudgens. Oh boy, patreons, do your duty :D (Sadly I cant be a patreon...)
Ooh, yes please!! I would love to see that!!
FUN FACT: This movie WAS a large part of the visual inspiration for Bloodborne!
(edit: lol y'all did definitely notice that as it went along)
I'd wager not just visual :D it feels like someone watched the movie and went, yeah yeah death cult, but wouldn't it be SO much better if spooky eldritch beings from beyond the pale death cult?!
The one dude even has a trick weapon, which is basically the cane whip
ah, the one where Versaiiles sends two of their best martial arts experts to investigate! Mark Dacascos ftw!
Hooray more Deep Dive! 🤩 I totally have a movie I need to send in...
I’d watch your video on paint drying and a efficiency of growing grass in the winter. Lol. ❤️🔥
I.. I unironically enjoy this film
I have a dvd and bluray because someone bought me the dvd and I was like NAH I NEED THE HIGH DEFF
I never said I had good taste
I just re-watched this a couple months ago. I remember my whole friend group LOVING IT back in the day. On a the re-watch I could only think "My GOD does ANYTHING happen in this interminable film?!"
I don't have a vote, but OMG ULTRAVIOLET!
I don't know if "Howard the Duck" made it to blue ray (possibly a crime), but someone needs to send it to them.
Honestly, I'm more familiar with the story because of the Powerwolf song "Beast of Gevaudan" lol.
ummmm this is regarded as a well loved and pretty damn good movie, that's highly original. IDK how tf this ended up being listed as a bad film.
I love Zoe's shirt, especially when it folds just right to say "respect our puns"
Also, Seong Mi-na main in the house
favourite moment: mikey is forced to remember mortdecai and looks truly dejected
Hello Archie and how are you doing today?
Can't agree more. Mark Dacascos needs to be more thing. That man brings 110% to every role I've seen him in ever.
Hello Sarah and how are you doing?
I'll have to go dig through my dvd's for this now and give it a re-watch. I remember my Wife (R.I.P.) and I really liking the movie at the time. The cinematography is outstanding as are the costumes as you all stated and aside from the meandering pace I quite liked the concept of taking an old French Folk Tale about a werewolf attacking the region and subbing in the Lion decked out in it's own funky armour. I gladly give it 3 and 1/2 AWOOOO's out of 5.
Ok but that "Have I been gauche" line is a pretty good pun.
Anyone calling Brotherhood of the Wolf a bad movie is going to have to answer to me, because they're apparently freakin' blind.
Mikey got sooo sad when Sam brought up Mordecai 🤣
I was always really curious about this movie (had heard good things), and I'm not sure if I want to track it down to see. But I love watching how much fun you all have watching together & building on each other's thoughts & vibes.
Watching this movie is a core memory for me, I love your commentary on it
This movie feels like it picked a genre and a runtime out of a hat and just ran with it. "Mystery/Thriller? Four and a half hours (or however long)? Sounds good!"
I've always loved this movie. It felt so different than what I was watching at thr time. And as mentioned in the video, the costumes, the photography, the combat, and the color saturation is absolutely beautiful. I recall being thrown by the pacing but not caring enough to stop.
I saw this in the theater, and around 10 minutes into the movie - when it became clear that it would be fully subtitled - a man in the front of the theater stood up and shouted "I didn't come here to read!" and stormed out. That's my most distinctly American core memory.
Saw this by myself in the theater. Cannot wait for this! 🎥
It's always been a movie that has always been discussed as a great film, at least in my film circles.
oh man, love this movie. This should be fun.
It's loosely based on the Beast of Gévaudan, which also has a song about it by German power metal band Powerwolf.
I don’t think Mikey remembers Ocean’s Thirteen very well.
I LOVED Brotherhood of the Wolf when it came out. Underrated gem.
I've been meaning to watch this film with commentary.
Oh dang, I watched Salt for the first time earlier this year & it has one of the FUNNIEST scenes I've seen in a movie in a long time. It's not supposed to be funny, to be perfectly clear, but it would be a fun watch haha
naming the boat "brother wolf" is as over the top as the editing
YES! I saw this decades back and loved the sheer weirdness and enthusiasm for... Everything that's packed in here!
deep dive my beloved... comfort show 10000%
Brotherhood of the Wolf a 💎gem💎 of a film 🙌🏻🙌🏻🙌🏻
your editing as you're sharing your thoughts on the movie is so funny; the different fonts for the 'church funded death cult' is so goood.
Hello Betty and how are you doing today?
More recently, the movie The Curse (came to Hulu recently) also uses the Beast of Gévaudan as its source material. I enjoyed it but it certainly isn't without its own problems.
Siegfried or Nightmare depending on my mood... Definitely have been eagerly awaiting this episode!
I mained Mitsurugi when I played Soul Calibur, but I remember Ivy being rad.
Also, watch Catwoman!
Ooooh, I hope its tank girl next! 😄🙏
Still great
in what universe is this a "bad" film?
Best part about this was it was recorded in French. So when they did the English dubbing Mark Dacascos did his own dubbing.