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A storyline I would love to be adapted into the MCU would be Fear Itself. Cul Borson would be an interesting skeleton in Odin’s closet. That movie could be the Captain America: Civil War in the Thor franchise where while it’s a Thor movie it would have multiple other heroes.
The worlds Dr. Strange and America transverse through briefly is my favorite scene of all time from the movie. The adventures that could happen in those worlds.
@@MultiversalGoat i really thought they would do more, would have been cool to see Marvel do a liquid, animated and all would have been awesome.. but the scene that was shown in the trailer was all that was shown in the movie.. instead we got a woke City with an expostion output lmao.. street lights were the opposite wow so crazyy
Loved how this movie got straight to business and wasn't cameo dependent. I know a lot of us expected that but the multiverse is just getting started. Really solid film!
I know a lot of people wanted the movie to just be a big universe-hopping adventure but I actually like how they spent most of the time in a few different universes. It allowed the movie to really flesh them out and make them feel lived in. I was so interested in earth-838 that I would watch an entire franchise set in that universe.
@@chrisnelson9972 he was only stating a fact as a half hearted joke. Because he WOULD watch anything marvel puts out. Any marvel fan would. Can't you ppl just watch a video and comment, instead of trolling people's posts and acting like an asshole? Jus curious...
The dinosaur universe could be the Savage Lands shown in Marvel Comics. A right time to introduce it since there are rumours that Skaar will be introduced or hinted on SheHulk.
So I keep thinking about the dream that Tony had that led him to creating ultron or a sweeter one about him having a kid he named Morgan! Make a video recapping all the dreams characters had throughout the films please
Mysterio was not necessarily lucky. Just because he was lying about being from a different universe it doesn’t mean that he or his team (basically made up of geniuses and powerful ppl) didn’t know of the multiverse. They probably had this intelligence and used it to make their story believable knowing that Shield probably had the same intelligence.
MORDO: Mastery of the sling ring is essential to the mystic arts. They allow us to travel throughout the multiverse. All you need to do is focus. Visualize.
i feel like multiverse is a subjective term, probably meaning the different realities or dimensions existing in one universe like the astral plain, mirror dimension etc.
@@WAVm2011 no i agree with you, they probably didn’t know. but i still think in this case they used the term ‘multiverse’ in terms of different dimensional plains.
It would've been worth comparing the montage of universes that Dr. Strange and America crash through with the universes that the watcher and ultron crashed through in what if, I wonder if there are any parallels
Amazing movie. The advertising led it astray but the movie itself was very good. The trailers and TV spots made it seem like an Endgame level movie when it was really just a sequel with some multiverse elements on the side.
I think those expectations were (once again) fan-based expectations made into false hope of probability, per usual with modern-day hype around films being expanded by fans. I can recall a ton of memes being shared of multiple cameos that obviously didn't occur. I'm glad it didn't happen, but I think at one point it's safe to confirm that we shouldn't believe all that gets shared on social media.
If there are infinite universes, there would be all kinds of versions of the "realistic" universe: paintverse, cartoon verse, cubist verse, Rennaisance painting verse, anime verse, etc etc. Whew
@@stephanlenting but some might not have had thay catastrophic event happen. So it might mean that every non-catastrophic universe has a catastrophic universe counterpart. Trippy
People complain about there not being a lot of mutiverse scenes as though this will be the only mutiverse film, they're gonna be visiting more in the future so chill out and enjoy
I wish I could see this movie again blind cause it was an awesome experience with my mouth dropped most of the time with the stuff happening on screen. One of my favorite mcu films.
Since America and Strange become cubes and paint in those respective universes would it make sense for them to also become the dominant force for the other universes as well. Does the fact they remain human in the bee and dinosaur ones mean that at the very least humans existed in both those realities as well? Or should they have turned into bees and Dinos? Thoughts?
So as they explain in the science lab universes CAN have different properties, can CAN have the same ones. So the dinosaur and Bee universes had the same properties as a normal universe, while the paint universe has an entirely different set of laws of physics.
Perhaps there are different laws of nature in every universe. This could be also an answer why both Electro and Sandman had different appearance in the MCU.
Well I’m guessing that since they didn’t change in those universes people must exist in those universes or even versions of them in the paint universe there was no humans or versions of them so they just turn to paint in the comic universe there were no unanimated people so they turned into animations in the cube universe there was nothing that wasn’t a cube so they changed into cubes to fit the universe they didn’t have to change in the other universes because there were probably some sort of humans or things in it
5:25 That’s The Zero Point from Fortnite’s universe. Strange is actually very lucky that he didn’t get trapped in that universe, as he would’ve been infinitely looped and would’ve lost all of his memories until he returned to Earth-616. 6:36 This universe also evokes what the inside of The Zero Point looks like in Fortnite. 9:57 That looks akin to the Universe that Strange sent Marcus to in ‘Jimmy Kimmel Hires Doctor Strange’.
I really feel like the “gap junction” is most likely an adaptation of either the “superflow”, or the space between universes used by the Council of Reeds to build their Citadel(with each Reed building a “Bridge” in the home universe to reach it), or an amalgamation of both. This seems especially probable if you consider that this movie had no small amount of Hickman influence.
I think it's short sighted to think that multiple entities decided upon 616. It would make sense that the number ID is more like an atomic weight, some sort of measurable constant so multiple unrelated sources could arrive at the same number.
I theorised that it was the order of the universes since in Loki Kang variant revealed that the parallel universes/timelines are stacked upon each other. This is the only thing that makes sense for everyone to get correct, specially Mysterio who has a bunch of smart people working for him.
@@TheTrulyCosmic The Toby and Andrew Parkers both mentioned arriving in 616 just like the villains. They had been displaced from their universes before coming through Ned's portals.
My favorite character is now necro mancer doctor strange with the ghost cape. He can now do multiple spells at the same time with all those different hands. Or multiple jutsu.
Thank you, Erik! I really appreciate how You and your team really dive in and do your homework to figure this stuff out, more so than other YT channels! 👍🏾
I’d argue that the dark dimension that we know is purely in universe 616 and not a separate universe. Think of it like the underworld description we got in Moon Knight. It’s a plane different than one we normal perceive but it’s not in a different universe. I believe that earth 838 would have a different dark dimension because otherwise Strange and Clea traveling there in both movies breaks the idea that only America can travel the multiverse. Other than that thanks for cataloging all of the universes
I feel like the Dark Dimension is still another universe on its own considering the DD consumes universes, no? I’m assuming that in the MCU there might be only one Dark Dimension?
I believe he's confusing realms/dimensions and universes as well. Realms and dimensions are tied to 1 universe or you would see variants in these other places. Seems pretty damn obvious.
What If our dreams are snippets into the lives of our alternate selves in a different universe and Lucid Dreaming is Dreamwalking (aka Possessing your variant in an alternate universe, something Wanda Maximoff did in Doctor Strange: In the Multiverse of Madness)?
Then I’m probably getting experimented on in quite a few universes considering when I lucid dream I’m usually with friends and then say out loud “wait, I’m dreaming” then proceed to either fly or super jump away
@@awesomeak9739 But what if in that universe laws of physics are different and humans evolved differently and have abilities that humans in this universe don’t have. So when you lucid dream the variants of you in those types universes can fly 🤷♂️
#20: Plane Crash Universe This one reminded me of the Evil Dead 2 portal travel montage. You've got Ash flying through the air while a single violin plays in the background, just like this universe.
Also, I think a universe where Ultron won and took over, placing the Stark (his "dad's") designed drones everywhere would be a more payoff-y than the idea of the drones themselves becoming sentient. That may just be me though looking for MCU connections to previous movies and that admittedly doesn't necessarily have to be the solution here.
I believe Mysterio called the MCU earth the number 616 was due to someone in his team having a dream, which they would not know is an alternate reality, and thinking “Hey those could work with the story we’re writing for Quentin!”
They could’ve easily added a couple cameos in this little multiverse sequence without taking away from the plot of the movie. Would’ve made it more fulfilling.
I honestly disagree. Sure, he might have mentioned him, but Defender Strange and America Chavez are from different universes, so Strange might not just have mentioned him. Probably Peter didn’t know him but Strange knew of his existence since he’s a sorcerer.
5:25 It looks like "Everinnye dimension" this dimension was considered higher than the sixth dimension! "Everinnye" was considered a native measurement for "Dweller-in-Darkness" and more precisely, (Dweller-in-Darkness (Earth-616), the Dweller-in-Darkness (Earth-TRN912), and Nightmare.) The ectoplasmic denizens of that dimension can follow the Way of the Shamblu, by disembodying their heads and exist in physical form (while turning their back on their fellow denizens). Nightmare despised that way, though himself, according to the Dweller, degraded himself by adopting his shape and by living in exile among the Lower Universes.
Sinister Strange destroyed his universe with the dark-hold witch caused an Incursion pushing another universe into the 838 universe. The comics do better explaining on how incursions start but one universe needs to be destroyed prematurely in order for the incursions to start! Hope that helps!
So since an Incursion started and they hope to bring F4 back and possibly Xmen that means they will come from different universe into 616? and the Kang we're all expecting is from also from a different universe?
The Cyberpunk Universe looks like Nueva York one of the comic pages shows 2099 from above with a shield facility it has a similar aesthetic to that comic panel
I’m pretty sure there are multiple Dark Dimensions, one per universe. As we see in what if…? Doctor Strange Supreme faced Dormammu which means there are variants of Dormammu which means there is a dark dimension for every universe.
@@URMOMMA346 so does that mean that the same what if…? Episode 4 is the dormammu we saw in the doctor strange movie? Does he just bargain with infinite Stephen Stranges?
It's an interesting take on the different possible universes. The paint universe reminded me of a Disney game, Epic Mickey. And Disney had a dinosaur movie as well. I feel that perhaps they jumped through a series of Disney's entertainment universes? Just a thought.
I was thinking that too. That would also support the lava universe being Mustafar, and that's just a really cool thought that they were momentarily in these other famous universes
I’m not the biggest MoM fan, but I never understood the lack of multiverse complaint, 2 alternate universes was enough for me. Besides, it took nearly the entire film to develop those 2 universe, if we would’ve had 3 or 4 alternate universe this would’ve been a 3 hour movie. Much too long for the type of film it was trying to be.
I want to know more about the unique Universes, like the paint and cube universes. The laws of physics are different there and I can’t imagine how a 3 dimensional being can exist there.
Fr I wonder if there are sentient beings on those universes or if it’s just a landscape full of paint or cubes or are there paint people and animals and cubed people and animals in those universes it would’ve been cool if we could’ve spent a couple minutes in those universes and gotten to see The life forms there It’s sad that they were only a few seconds of cameo
@@octoberboiy my guess is that there’s paint people And they are blobs of paint separate from the paint that we seen the landscape The landscape seems to actually have like a tunnel thing and not just a bunch of paint on the ground so if there can be painted buildings there they’re probably are painted people but how did the universe even end up like that because isn’t The alternate universe supposed to be a variant of earth so how did earth end up getting covered in paint or how did everything turn to paint And also did everything just get covered in paint or was it paint
People keep using realm, universe, and dimension interchangeably when they are all different things. In the science community a dimension can contain zero to infinity universes and each universe can contain zero to infinity realms.
The issue is we're talking about in Marvel, not in reality. Clearly universes aren't contained within dimensions in Marvel and they are treated as seperate entities so trying to apply 'real' logic to it is a fools errand
@@Wolfer1OOO It appeared to me that the dimension that contained the Book of Vishanti was a gateway connecting multiple universes. It made me think that they are using the same logic that there are only one of each dimension in the multiverse.
I think that sometimes people overthink, the reason mysterio knows about 616 is he used to work for tony, tony had access to shield files and was one of the greatest minds in the universe. It is very likely that he got this information from tony in one of his theories or a classified shield file. I dont think its luck or a loophole its just an overlooked plot point
I'm calling it: In S-M:FFH, Guterman somehow had knowledge of the multiverse and its designations--perhaps he snuck into 616 from 818?--and fell in with Quentin and figured "eh, he needs a backstory? I'LL given him a backstory".
The white-colored energy that America Chavez radiates is also used by the original, 80’s-era Beyonder. That character was the protagonist of that decades’ “Secret Wars” series.
Love your videos. Been watching for years. I think the 30s sequence looks like the noir comics or how the game did noir. The monochromatic is just how they adapted not how that character has to be. I'd love to see a spiderman noir with that look personally
Now, are these different universes considered different timelines? I’m really confused on this. Loki talks about timelines, but sylvie killing he who remains made all of this possible. So is there an actual difference between timelines and universes?
timelines are different timesets in a universe, like the 616-2012 timeline these m.o.m universes are entirely different worlds with different heroes, aesthetics, etc branched timelines and different universes are part of the multiverse since they are different from 616
For any Destiny players here, you cant tell me that the quick glimpse we get of that floating futuristic pyramid universe doesnt look a lot like the infinte forest on mercury.
#10 (Unknown Universe) could be from Fortnite. In Fortnite, an orb made of energy known as the Zero Point is often depicted with those light tentacles. From recent events and collaborations, Fortnite can be considered as part of the Marvel Multiverse.
Was hoping that there would be a explanation for the sounds during the multiverse scene, there’s this weird laugh that happens during the 1930s universe that can’t be for no reason.
It still surprises me that after Mysterio revealed who he was and his name that there wasn't anyone out there in the world aside from his accomplices that knew for a fact he was not a intergalactic hero from an alternative universe. Like seriously lol
@@notasinglesoul1179 Perhaps a version of Beck/Mysterio that isn't a hack or fraud but has actual abilities more advanced then the whole illusion tricks.
Just my opinion, but I think it’s appropriate to call every millisecond-featured “universes” as Worlds. Worlds/realms of different universes. In this way, maybe the other realms connected to Yggdrasil of Norse Mythology (which Thor is based on) are somehow featured. The icy world could be Jotunheim. The hellish one could be Muspelheim. Etc. Not really sure, but the one with bees could be a planet full of bees, but not its whole universe.
Is it a continuity error in the fact that when they fall through the Bee and Drone universes, they maintain their bodies, but when they fall through the Cartoon, Paint, and Cubes, they change forms?
No, just because there a drones doesn’t mean there wasn’t humans at one stage to make them, so humans are fine in the world, it’s not like the drones are that universe’s version of humans
Not wanda but the Scarlet Witch The wanda from Illuminati universe isnt that strong (living happy life) that's why they didnt know how dangerous the Scarlet witch is
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Its not Mustafar 😎
A storyline I would love to be adapted into the MCU would be Fear Itself. Cul Borson would be an interesting skeleton in Odin’s closet. That movie could be the Captain America: Civil War in the Thor franchise where while it’s a Thor movie it would have multiple other heroes.
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The worlds Dr. Strange and America transverse through briefly is my favorite scene of all time from the movie. The adventures that could happen in those worlds.
Sad that 98% of that scene was shown in the trailer... wish they did more with a movie with madness and multiverse in the title 🙃
Forreal, it'd be a real adventure to be wet paint splattered on the sidewalk
@@MultiversalGoat i really thought they would do more, would have been cool to see Marvel do a liquid, animated and all would have been awesome.. but the scene that was shown in the trailer was all that was shown in the movie.. instead we got a woke City with an expostion output lmao.. street lights were the opposite wow so crazyy
Too bad it only lasted for what felt like seconds. Smh
@@Anidoesstuff Same. Highly disappointed.
Loved how this movie got straight to business and wasn't cameo dependent. I know a lot of us expected that but the multiverse is just getting started. Really solid film!
It did however rely on Strange having a kid sidekick character
@@kang8171 how else were they gonna travel multiverses when wanda had the dark hold?
The writing ruined this movie for me, I felt no emotion watching this, not even the cameos
@@jaxamus13 big L for ya then
@@jaxamus13 must take a lot to get you excited
I know a lot of people wanted the movie to just be a big universe-hopping adventure but I actually like how they spent most of the time in a few different universes. It allowed the movie to really flesh them out and make them feel lived in. I was so interested in earth-838 that I would watch an entire franchise set in that universe.
Pretty sure u would watch anything Marvel puts out
@@kaiphan1346 honey is it illegal to enjoy marvel nowadays?? 🤦♀🤦♂
Then the movie should have a different name. Since it really only focuses on the 3-4 different universes.
@@chrisnelson9972 he was only stating a fact as a half hearted joke. Because he WOULD watch anything marvel puts out. Any marvel fan would.
Can't you ppl just watch a video and comment, instead of trolling people's posts and acting like an asshole? Jus curious...
MULTIVERSE MOVIE SHOULD BE A MULTIVERSE MOVIE!!! NOT WHATEVER WEIRD SHIT WE GOT!
The dinosaur universe could be the Savage Lands shown in Marvel Comics. A right time to introduce it since there are rumours that Skaar will be introduced or hinted on SheHulk.
Yes, it is. Was revealed in a recent interview by the VFX artist of DSMOM.
That's what i thought it was when I first watched it
or its the jurassic world universe
So I keep thinking about the dream that Tony had that led him to creating ultron or a sweeter one about him having a kid he named Morgan! Make a video recapping all the dreams characters had throughout the films please
Nvm I love you guys but screencrush made one
Here's a good question: since we know that there are multiple afterlifes now, what after life did vision go to since we was technically part human
His consciousness is still artificial, tho. But he lives on through White Vision
Tawaret says that an afterlife will be what the person's mind manifests. Hence, if one doesn't manifest an afterlife, there should be none for them.
I dont think machines get afterlife
And he was not part human
He was extremely intelligent AI ,not part human part machine
Mysterio was not necessarily lucky. Just because he was lying about being from a different universe it doesn’t mean that he or his team (basically made up of geniuses and powerful ppl) didn’t know of the multiverse. They probably had this intelligence and used it to make their story believable knowing that Shield probably had the same intelligence.
they could have even possibly gotten it from SHIELD, Erik Selvig called their universe 616 back in thor
@@FeelingLucky246 The Dark World, Full of Dark Teletubbies
My thoughts exactly
I genuinely think it would be hilarious if one of his group was like a renage skrull and got the info about the multiverse from sword or something
MORDO: Mastery of the sling ring is essential to the mystic arts. They allow us to travel throughout the multiverse. All you need to do is focus. Visualize.
lies, deception!
i feel like multiverse is a subjective term, probably meaning the different realities or dimensions existing in one universe like the astral plain, mirror dimension etc.
@@michaeljs04 I was also thinking the same by hearing that 💯
@@michaeljs04 or they didn't really know what they were going to do in the future
@@WAVm2011 no i agree with you, they probably didn’t know. but i still think in this case they used the term ‘multiverse’ in terms of different dimensional plains.
It would've been worth comparing the montage of universes that Dr. Strange and America crash through with the universes that the watcher and ultron crashed through in what if, I wonder if there are any parallels
The lava planets
And if you listen closely you can hear someone shout you were the chosen one
@@logandelaharpe6362 lmfaooo
@@logandelaharpe6362 And claim he has the high ground. Or to not choke in your aspirations
Amazing movie. The advertising led it astray but the movie itself was very good. The trailers and TV spots made it seem like an Endgame level movie when it was really just a sequel with some multiverse elements on the side.
I think those expectations were (once again) fan-based expectations made into false hope of probability, per usual with modern-day hype around films being expanded by fans. I can recall a ton of memes being shared of multiple cameos that obviously didn't occur. I'm glad it didn't happen, but I think at one point it's safe to confirm that we shouldn't believe all that gets shared on social media.
So this would mean that in the "Paint" universe, there's a Paint Yodenheim, and a Paint Dormamu, and a Paint dark realm full of paint souls?
If there are infinite universes, there would be all kinds of versions of the "realistic" universe: paintverse, cartoon verse, cubist verse, Rennaisance painting verse, anime verse, etc etc.
Whew
Doesn’t have to, some universes might have had some catastrophic events or processes which made some creations never happen.
@@stephanlenting but some might not have had thay catastrophic event happen. So it might mean that every non-catastrophic universe has a catastrophic universe counterpart.
Trippy
and paint Dr.strange
Dormammu exists outside the Multiverse, theres only one of him. Same with all the other Faltines.
The 2 things that made me smile during the movie is the living tribunal and when captain Carter said “I could do this all day”
Maybe a half day.
worst line of the movie
@@CalebJacobs1981 I love seeing everyone just joking about captain carters death by making half jokes 😂 ik I’m guilty of being one of those people
@@KaBammy i liked it.
I halfway enjoyed it
8:54 U can see Hydra symbol on the giant blimp. This is the world where Hydra took over everything
People complain about there not being a lot of mutiverse scenes as though this will be the only mutiverse film, they're gonna be visiting more in the future so chill out and enjoy
I wish I could see this movie again blind cause it was an awesome experience with my mouth dropped most of the time with the stuff happening on screen. One of my favorite mcu films.
I love this scene but really wished they had more time in the different universes
Yes that was the biggest letdown when I watched it,
@@ThePurpleMushroom yee 🙁
Since America and Strange become cubes and paint in those respective universes would it make sense for them to also become the dominant force for the other universes as well. Does the fact they remain human in the bee and dinosaur ones mean that at the very least humans existed in both those realities as well? Or should they have turned into bees and Dinos? Thoughts?
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So as they explain in the science lab universes CAN have different properties, can CAN have the same ones. So the dinosaur and Bee universes had the same properties as a normal universe, while the paint universe has an entirely different set of laws of physics.
Perhaps there are different laws of nature in every universe.
This could be also an answer why both Electro and Sandman had different appearance in the MCU.
They seemingly share properties everything of that universe shares, alive or not, so I don't think it would affect their species.
Well I’m guessing that since they didn’t change in those universes people must exist in those universes or even versions of them in the paint universe there was no humans or versions of them so they just turn to paint in the comic universe there were no unanimated people so they turned into animations in the cube universe there was nothing that wasn’t a cube so they changed into cubes to fit the universe they didn’t have to change in the other universes because there were probably some sort of humans or things in it
5:25 That’s The Zero Point from Fortnite’s universe. Strange is actually very lucky that he didn’t get trapped in that universe, as he would’ve been infinitely looped and would’ve lost all of his memories until he returned to Earth-616.
6:36 This universe also evokes what the inside of The Zero Point looks like in Fortnite.
9:57 That looks akin to the Universe that Strange sent Marcus to in ‘Jimmy Kimmel Hires Doctor Strange’.
i also thought that was the zero point planet, cuz the rift is there
Im pretty sure theyll change clea being the niece of dormamu like they did hela being lokis daughter but maybe not
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I really feel like the “gap junction” is most likely an adaptation of either the “superflow”, or the space between universes used by the Council of Reeds to build their Citadel(with each Reed building a “Bridge” in the home universe to reach it), or an amalgamation of both. This seems especially probable if you consider that this movie had no small amount of Hickman influence.
I think it's short sighted to think that multiple entities decided upon 616. It would make sense that the number ID is more like an atomic weight, some sort of measurable constant so multiple unrelated sources could arrive at the same number.
I theorised that it was the order of the universes since in Loki Kang variant revealed that the parallel universes/timelines are stacked upon each other. This is the only thing that makes sense for everyone to get correct, specially Mysterio who has a bunch of smart people working for him.
@@MasterKey2004 but how would beck’s people know what order the universes are in when they revealed they were lying?
@@MasterKey2004 in an infinite number of universes, how would you know where to start at number one?
@@MasterKey2004 in an infinite number of universes, how would you know where to start at number one?
What about Dr Strange 1, when they said the sling ring let's them travel the multiverse?
Wouldn’t they technically need to visualize where they need to go? So they really wouldn’t have a destination
it is a possibility. but it is not as easy as wht chavez did.
@@TheTrulyCosmic The Toby and Andrew Parkers both mentioned arriving in 616 just like the villains. They had been displaced from their universes before coming through Ned's portals.
Sure...I can visualize somewhere made- up universe I want to go 🙄
Maybe now doctor can open the portals in the universes that he visited in this movie
I feel like if the movie is named other than ‘Multiverse of Madness’, there wouldn’t be much outrage because the movie itself is very good.
My favorite character is now necro mancer doctor strange with the ghost cape. He can now do multiple spells at the same time with all those different hands. Or multiple jutsu.
Been waiting for this one! Amazing work as always 👌🏻❤️
Thank you, Erik! I really appreciate how You and your team really dive in and do your homework to figure this stuff out, more so than other YT channels! 👍🏾
I’d argue that the dark dimension that we know is purely in universe 616 and not a separate universe. Think of it like the underworld description we got in Moon Knight. It’s a plane different than one we normal perceive but it’s not in a different universe. I believe that earth 838 would have a different dark dimension because otherwise Strange and Clea traveling there in both movies breaks the idea that only America can travel the multiverse. Other than that thanks for cataloging all of the universes
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well usually a concept of dimensions is that they contain universes not the other way around, but I don't now what is the canon on marvel
I feel like the Dark Dimension is still another universe on its own considering the DD consumes universes, no? I’m assuming that in the MCU there might be only one Dark Dimension?
I believe he's confusing realms/dimensions and universes as well. Realms and dimensions are tied to 1 universe or you would see variants in these other places. Seems pretty damn obvious.
Ikr? Why people keep assuming dimensions and universe are the same thing when they're different.
What If our dreams are snippets into the lives of our alternate selves in a different universe and Lucid Dreaming is Dreamwalking (aka Possessing your variant in an alternate universe, something Wanda Maximoff did in Doctor Strange: In the Multiverse of Madness)?
Then I’m probably getting experimented on in quite a few universes considering when I lucid dream I’m usually with friends and then say out loud “wait, I’m dreaming” then proceed to either fly or super jump away
as Wong once said "So its real that im naked and im getting chased by a clown".
Idk about the lucid dreaming is dreamwalking thing. In lucid dreams you can literally fly and shit. That can't be done in reality
@@awesomeak9739 But what if in that universe laws of physics are different and humans evolved differently and have abilities that humans in this universe don’t have. So when you lucid dream the variants of you in those types universes can fly 🤷♂️
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The cyberpunk city hype me the most, about time we need a cyberpunk setting in marvel movies
Probably 2099
@@knobodyofficial9569 too bad Sony won’t touch that cuz they’re too busy making movies like El Muerto
Same
@@madtitan0825 I’m sure Marvel can still visit 2099, just no Miguel unfortunately.
They should've showed an Alchemax tower, which would've confirmed that's 2099 Spider-Man's universe.
#20: Plane Crash Universe
This one reminded me of the Evil Dead 2 portal travel montage. You've got Ash flying through the air while a single violin plays in the background, just like this universe.
9:44 I think this dimension might be 2099 spiderman’s dimension 😳
It totally looks like a world where Alchemax took over early.
You Mean Edge of Time Universe Where Evil Peter Parker took over the World
Also, I think a universe where Ultron won and took over, placing the Stark (his "dad's") designed drones everywhere would be a more payoff-y than the idea of the drones themselves becoming sentient. That may just be me though looking for MCU connections to previous movies and that admittedly doesn't necessarily have to be the solution here.
I believe Mysterio called the MCU earth the number 616 was due to someone in his team having a dream, which they would not know is an alternate reality, and thinking “Hey those could work with the story we’re writing for Quentin!”
They could’ve easily added a couple cameos in this little multiverse sequence without taking away from the plot of the movie. Would’ve made it more fulfilling.
Thank you guys for the consistency all these years for us you guys are goats 🐐
I feel like if Tobey is from that stranges universe then america surely would’ve known him when strange brought up spiderman. So I don’t think so
Yeah that would be cool but I don’t think Defender Strange is from the Tobey Spiderman universe
I honestly disagree. Sure, he might have mentioned him, but Defender Strange and America Chavez are from different universes, so Strange might not just have mentioned him. Probably Peter didn’t know him but Strange knew of his existence since he’s a sorcerer.
@Keep Clear Records they dont have Avengers, but they can have Dr Strange
Do we know which universe America is even from?
when wanda breaks the fourth wall. instantly gives me goosebumps
ON GOD
I have a feeling that one of the universes in the multiverse montage is the hydra universe
I really hope when they introduce mutants that they're living on Krakoa like the current status quo of the X-men.
love how The Gap Junctions aesthetic is so obviously inspired by Kingdom Hearts The Dive To The Heart
5:25 It looks like "Everinnye dimension" this dimension was considered higher than the sixth dimension!
"Everinnye" was considered a native measurement for "Dweller-in-Darkness" and more precisely, (Dweller-in-Darkness (Earth-616), the Dweller-in-Darkness (Earth-TRN912), and Nightmare.)
The ectoplasmic denizens of that dimension can follow the Way of the Shamblu, by disembodying their heads and exist in physical form (while turning their back on their fellow denizens). Nightmare despised that way, though himself, according to the Dweller, degraded himself by adopting his shape and by living in exile among the Lower Universes.
It could be fortnite rifts cause Marvel and fortnite has close ties
It doesn’t look anything like the everinnye dimension…
@@trungdinh3909i agree
@CloakShinetrue
I was looking for this EXACT video. Just the universes explained. Thank you.
Sinister Strange destroyed his universe with the dark-hold witch caused an Incursion pushing another universe into the 838 universe. The comics do better explaining on how incursions start but one universe needs to be destroyed prematurely in order for the incursions to start! Hope that helps!
So since an Incursion started and they hope to bring F4 back and possibly Xmen that means they will come from different universe into 616? and the Kang we're all expecting is from also from a different universe?
The Cyberpunk Universe looks like Nueva York one of the comic pages shows 2099 from above with a shield facility it has a similar aesthetic to that comic panel
I’m pretty sure there are multiple Dark Dimensions, one per universe. As we see in what if…? Doctor Strange Supreme faced Dormammu which means there are variants of Dormammu which means there is a dark dimension for every universe.
nah because dormammu exist outside the multiverse which means there’s only one of him
@@URMOMMA346 so does that mean that the same what if…? Episode 4 is the dormammu we saw in the doctor strange movie? Does he just bargain with infinite Stephen Stranges?
I was pretty sure the “cave of wonders” universe was the what-if universe. 5:35
I think the 1930's universe could be the hydra city from lego marvel super heroes 2
It's an interesting take on the different possible universes. The paint universe reminded me of a Disney game, Epic Mickey. And Disney had a dinosaur movie as well. I feel that perhaps they jumped through a series of Disney's entertainment universes? Just a thought.
I was thinking that too. That would also support the lava universe being Mustafar, and that's just a really cool thought that they were momentarily in these other famous universes
Not much multiverse 🥲
But alot of madness 💯
Other than the fact nearly the whole film was set in the multiverse outside 616.
I’m not the biggest MoM fan, but I never understood the lack of multiverse complaint, 2 alternate universes was enough for me. Besides, it took nearly the entire film to develop those 2 universe, if we would’ve had 3 or 4 alternate universe this would’ve been a 3 hour movie. Much too long for the type of film it was trying to be.
He helps us makes sense of what we saw and also helps us be more confused
I want to know more about the unique Universes, like the paint and cube universes. The laws of physics are different there and I can’t imagine how a 3 dimensional being can exist there.
I wanna know more of the paint universe!! How in the blue hell do people live in the paint lol??
@@d.r.lucky13 I know lol… how to they move… my guess is the paint doesn’t mix and they fly around or something.
Fr I wonder if there are sentient beings on those universes or if it’s just a landscape full of paint or cubes or are there paint people and animals and cubed people and animals in those universes it would’ve been cool if we could’ve spent a couple minutes in those universes and gotten to see The life forms there It’s sad that they were only a few seconds of cameo
@@octoberboiy my guess is that there’s paint people And they are blobs of paint separate from the paint that we seen the landscape The landscape seems to actually have like a tunnel thing and not just a bunch of paint on the ground so if there can be painted buildings there they’re probably are painted people but how did the universe even end up like that because isn’t The alternate universe supposed to be a variant of earth so how did earth end up getting covered in paint or how did everything turn to paint And also did everything just get covered in paint or was it paint
@@blackqweenmars everything was paint. The laws of physics were different in those dimensions.
The block universe made me think of Drax when Thanos turned him to blocks...
For the pyramid universe, based solely on how it’s colored, it has SOME resemblance towards Kang’s citadel. Just a thought.
I think the Pyramid Universe might be the world of Rama Tut (Kang who took over ancient Egypt)
I like how you explain that from the first MCU movie to upcoming, all are connected to each other for some reason.
I wish they went on more adventures in other universes
the pyramid universe at 9:04 actually reminds me of the monoliths from Agents of shield with the two lines through the pyramid on the right
People keep using realm, universe, and dimension interchangeably when they are all different things.
In the science community a dimension can contain zero to infinity universes and each universe can contain zero to infinity realms.
The issue is we're talking about in Marvel, not in reality. Clearly universes aren't contained within dimensions in Marvel and they are treated as seperate entities so trying to apply 'real' logic to it is a fools errand
In fiction they all mean the same shit.
@@Wolfer1OOO It appeared to me that the dimension that contained the Book of Vishanti was a gateway connecting multiple universes. It made me think that they are using the same logic that there are only one of each dimension in the multiverse.
I think that sometimes people overthink, the reason mysterio knows about 616 is he used to work for tony, tony had access to shield files and was one of the greatest minds in the universe. It is very likely that he got this information from tony in one of his theories or a classified shield file. I dont think its luck or a loophole its just an overlooked plot point
I hope Doctor strange and Chavez jumps more in different universe in the next movies more crazier than this
I'm calling it: In S-M:FFH, Guterman somehow had knowledge of the multiverse and its designations--perhaps he snuck into 616 from 818?--and fell in with Quentin and figured "eh, he needs a backstory? I'LL given him a backstory".
The white-colored energy that America Chavez radiates is also used by the original, 80’s-era Beyonder. That character was the protagonist of that decades’ “Secret Wars” series.
Could that dinosaur universe be “The Savage Land?”
The land before time live action
I had goosebumps when i see living tribunal.
Cgi was 👌👌👌
8:37 It's not just a 1930's universe. You missed the Hydra symbol on the blimp.
Love your videos. Been watching for years. I think the 30s sequence looks like the noir comics or how the game did noir. The monochromatic is just how they adapted not how that character has to be. I'd love to see a spiderman noir with that look personally
That montage was so cool and crazy at the same time
If I got the chance to even get a glance of elizabeth olsen in real life I can die happy
same tbh
I loved seeing the Noir universe
Now, are these different universes considered different timelines? I’m really confused on this. Loki talks about timelines, but sylvie killing he who remains made all of this possible. So is there an actual difference between timelines and universes?
timelines are different timesets in a universe, like the 616-2012 timeline
these m.o.m universes are entirely different worlds with different heroes, aesthetics, etc
branched timelines and different universes are part of the multiverse since they are different from 616
For any Destiny players here, you cant tell me that the quick glimpse we get of that floating futuristic pyramid universe doesnt look a lot like the infinte forest on mercury.
Ayo I’m a Destiny player, and lol that does look like it tbh
I’m curious how Wanda knew what universe America and strange were in
Probably just Hollywood hax for the sake of time.
Probably used the darkhold to keep track of them
It’s was showed in
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Guitar riff sonar tracking
I'm curious if oxygen is the most abundant element everywhere.. earth was ok but space than space between universezzzzzz
Thanks to a VFX artist on the movie, we now know about a massive Easter egg at 8:37, the tip of the blimp has a hydra symbol!
Damn I thought it was indeed the Noir universe but who knows
ahahaha 0:05 was my favourite funny part in Jurassic Park, you nailed that parody!
I do wonder The universe with the Grindhouse logo might’ve been our universe that would be crazy
That paint universe reminds me of "What Dreams May Come" heaven with paint everywhere. Robin Williams was in it
#10 (Unknown Universe) could be from Fortnite. In Fortnite, an orb made of energy known as the Zero Point is often depicted with those light tentacles. From recent events and collaborations, Fortnite can be considered as part of the Marvel Multiverse.
6:41 That’s the tube city Michale Scott was talking about!
isnt a dimension part of a universe not an entirely different universe cuz if thats the case then wouldnt there be many dark dimension
Was hoping that there would be a explanation for the sounds during the multiverse scene, there’s this weird laugh that happens during the 1930s universe that can’t be for no reason.
It still surprises me that after Mysterio revealed who he was and his name that there wasn't anyone out there in the world aside from his accomplices that knew for a fact he was not a intergalactic hero from an alternative universe. Like seriously lol
i mean he was a human from stark industries but if it was another reality i would think there are now 2 Quentin becks
@@notasinglesoul1179 Perhaps a version of Beck/Mysterio that isn't a hack or fraud but has actual abilities more advanced then the whole illusion tricks.
@@Reimagined-T-001 yeah i really wished i saw that then he could be a dr strange villain and a spiderman villian
7:38 Savage Land.
#10 looks like the zero point or reality zero. The cords might be all the connections the Fortnite universe has to the marvel multiverse
#19, Into the Spider-Verse, Miles’ Universe? Art style and taxis have me convinced
Do any of these bonus montage universes have numerical designations, or have they all been given TRNs?
“What If” 7:33 was Jurassic World Dominion with Peter Quill’s variant is Owen Grady and Grandmaster’s varian is Ian Malcolm 😂😂😂
Just my opinion, but I think it’s appropriate to call every millisecond-featured “universes” as Worlds. Worlds/realms of different universes. In this way, maybe the other realms connected to Yggdrasil of Norse Mythology (which Thor is based on) are somehow featured. The icy world could be Jotunheim. The hellish one could be Muspelheim. Etc. Not really sure, but the one with bees could be a planet full of bees, but not its whole universe.
totally the same thing. universe seem more understandable. we can seperate it from dimensions.
6:38 Maybe It is the Superior Ironman Universe where Tom Cruise is the Superior Ironman 😂😂
Can you do another MCU watch list like when you did it at the end of phase 3 and with doctor strange out I feel like it would be a good spot to start
6:39 the stark drone universe reminds me a lot of Ultron's city in the Next Avengers animated movie, I doubt it's in reference to that but still.
Is it a continuity error in the fact that when they fall through the Bee and Drone universes, they maintain their bodies, but when they fall through the Cartoon, Paint, and Cubes, they change forms?
I think some worlds just let you retain your normal body while others force you to change
No, just because there a drones doesn’t mean there wasn’t humans at one stage to make them, so humans are fine in the world, it’s not like the drones are that universe’s version of humans
Some parts of Hel in Norse mythology were more cold and ice bearing than muspelheim and Valhalla.
I've been thinking...the universe that had the downed plane and green flames might be the universe where Loki actually conquers Earth.
Loki doesn't use green flames... that's just the colour of his magic.
8:52 It's the Hydra world domination universe. If you watched IMAX you can see the skyship up there having hydra symbol in front of the ship.
How could the illuminati underestimate Wanda?
Cause they thought they we're op and didn't go all out when they saw Wanda
Cuz they never knew who's Wanda in the first place?
@@alphara_harold they knew and even said they aren't afraid of a Wanda.
Not wanda but the Scarlet Witch
The wanda from Illuminati universe isnt that strong (living happy life) that's why they didnt know how dangerous the Scarlet witch is
The 10th unknown universe looks like the different multiverses He Who Remains showed in Loki
Love the JP reference at the beginning 😃
I didn't much care that I didn't understand large part of Dr. Strange and the Multiverse of Madness. It was a blast to watch.