Doctor Strange Multiverse of Madness MISSING VISION Finally Explained!
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Where were Vision or White Vision during Doctor Strange in the Multiverse of Madness? We finally have an explanation for their whereabouts! Erik Voss explains why Vision must exist in Marvel Universe 838, and where White Vision in Universe 616 went after WandaVision!
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Meeting his clone moon knight.
Scarlet Scarab = witch
What happened to the Earth 🌎 838's infinity Stones 💎🟠❤️💚💜 ??????
Lol! I was just thinking about where Vision was in MoM and then yt recommended me this 😂
@@captaineri.223 Just hope Layla doesn't turn evil.
People should remember White Vision is the physical Body of the old Vision with his memories restored by Hex Vision but he did not retain the empathy and morals of the original Vision had. So technically you could say he remembers Wanda and everything but he simply doesn’t care or doesn’t know how to. It’s a good little arc to get him back to how he used to be that I think they are saving for Amour Wars. 👍🏼
I think you're right and he doesn't know how to feel.
I think visions true power is his ability for self reflection and self awareness, which is actually the root of empathy. So I dont think white vision is an empathy free zone. He had some programming or orders, which he promptly disregarded once he was given all the information, and off he went to do important vision stuff.
@@LOOGamala I would say he’s very logical and makes his decisions based on the best logical way. But as he had more experiences and fell in love with Wanda he was becoming more human making mistakes like when he accidentally shot War Machine out the sky. White Vision is like that basically all logic and no emotion as of yet.
They were intimately connected through the mind stone, so yeah, there's nothing there anymore lol
Yeah I don’t understand why people thought Vision would want to get involved. He immediately left to go find himself once his memories were returned to him instead returning to help Wanda
I don't think Vision existed in 838. The existence of the Ultron sentries implies Ultron worked as intended, never went rogue and never created the Vision body. Instead, Ultron became the 'suit of armor around the world' Tony envisioned.
This!
Vision wouldn’t have been created in 838, since it looks like ultron was a success by stark not a evil failure !
Exactly this! The conclusion Erik came to was a bit convoluted imo. It's much easier to assume the Ultron sentries exist because the Ultron programme went well and Tony did what he intended, or even that someone else created them, than it is to believe all the events of Age of Ultron had to have played out exactly for them to exist, even if its an entirely seperate universe.
100% agree
Perhaps not Stark but Richards
We cannot assume the events of Age of Ultron played out the same way in 838 as they did in 616 because we know 838 contains The Avengers, F4, The Inhumans, and The X-Men. Wanda and Vision could have completely different origins and fates in 838.
Exactly
They have ultron bots so ultron worked
Earth 616 definitely has the Avengers, Inhumans, FF, and X-Men...
Ohh you meant Earth 199999 aka the MCU?
@@tritonlockjaw284 the MCU is the cinematic 616 universe. They're dropping the 1999 designation
Came here to say this. I know they need content, but Erik can't say "we know." Literally, anything else could have happened.
Alternate take: what if Vision doesn’t exist in 838 bc the Ultron sentry’s were created by either Mr.fantastic/Hank Pym?
That may be true, because Vision was a direct result of Ultron getting out of hand
in the comics Hank Pym made ultron, and ultron build Vision as a weapon against the avengers iirc. So i think it's viable. Though it would be cool to see a later mini series about earth 838 where we actually get to see alternate avengers etc
Well, they could still have been created by Tony Stark, and just work in the first try. The sentries might just be Tony's design in this universe.
You're not implying the Twins are pieces of Mephisto's soul...right?
Or even if Ultron was created by Tony Stark, maybe he was successful in the first attempt. So no bad Ultron, no Vision. Maybe the Illuminati keep the Mind Stone & rehabilitate Wanda. No problem!
I like the idea that Wanda’s husband being a random person who just happens to look like Paul Bettany.
That would be funny af
Lmao funny
Actor Paul Bethany, who never met Jennifer Connelly
the ending to wandavision was still the most heartbreaking
And then you have this.
@@ishaanupreti6438 WandaVision was so much better. MoM was really a let own cuz Raimi and Walrdon didn't watch WandaVision.
@@summertyme5748 which is absolutely insane, like, how can you let them make what is essentially a wandavision sequel as much as it is a dr strange one and not have them watch the material that directly influence it.
@@JoshMathews17 Interview.
Basically public confession of sins.
Honestly after MoM I’m really curious how Agatha House of Harkness will play out.
Maybe, Wanda will appear ?
It might Agatha being freed after Wanda died?
me too!
@@horrorgamer811 no body, possibly no death
WHEN DOES THAT COME OUT AND WHEN
I feel like Vision might not have been created in the 838 universe. What if Tony and Bruce ended up making Ultron and it didn't gain the sentience that it did in 616? What if the mind stone is still in Loki's scepter in 838 and all the Ultron sentries were created as they were intended?
That was how i enterpreted it. I assumed reed was able to make the sentries without creating ultron.
But then since Thanos had the space stone it means he saw loki. Which also means loki had the scepter too.
@@Mr713mexican assuming loki had either of those in the 838 universe?
@@chillywillie5743 loki had to have it as loki is what brought the avengers together. This seems constant since it was brought up in what if as well as implied in 838 since captain carter is called an avenger.
I was going to comment this exact same thing I'm glad someone else thinks this too. I have a feeling that 838 Ultron was never evil and was always just a peace keeping program as intended. So if Ultron was never evil Vision would have never been made.
Consider this: at the end of DSMoM, we see Strange writhe in agony as his third eye opens. This implies that NO MATTER what you do, the darkhold will leave a lasting presence on the users. AKA, the darkhold itself isn't what's corrupting people, but rather the darkhold corrupts people with what it brings into them. Like think about how a snake can poison you. Even if you kill the snake and every snake in every universe ever; the poison is still there. That's how I view the darkhold.
That's a good point
That third eye is the eye of agamotto in the comics. Not sure if it was confirmed it's caused by the darkhold.
@@gaze5393 that's true it's just a bright light that comes from his forehead aka spiritual third eye
Maybe...just maybe, this hints at the idea of the darkhold grants awareness and capabilities that are inherently dark or forbidden. The user isn't necessarily evil, but the awarenesses makes it challenging for the user to remain virtuous. It's like trying to escape something that has a firm grip on them.
I took it as maybe the sinister strange that died probably transferred the eye he has to our strange or maybe our strange with his photographic memory has memorized pages of the dark hold, so part of it exists in his mind.
Age of Ultron is the marvel movie that continues to come up and one day, folks will respect it as a top-tier marvel movie.
Continuity has helped it age
You can't retroactively make a bad movie good by constantly referencing it in newer films; just like a reboot or remake of an iconic franchise can't completely replace the original (because it can't erase the original from existence). If Age of Ultron (or Thor the Dark World) ever get elevated to being respected as "top-tier Marvel" it's because the rest of the franchise went to shit 30-40 movies in and it gets there by default of being better than 90% of what gets released. AoU will always be a mediocre film at best, regardless of how many kids who grew up watching it wax nostalgic about it as adults (like how the Star Wars prequels supposedly aren't crap anymore).
We do not know that Vision existed in 838.
Nothing in the movie leads us to believe that Ultron went off the rails and created a second body. There is no indication that the mind stone was ever removed from the scepter. In fact, the presence of Ultron sentries would seem to indicate that Vision was never created in 838.
That’s only how it happened in the 616 there’s no law that says vision can’t exist if ultron worked
Its a different universe, different story.
@@titaniumcommandrig no that is the rule. Ultron’s code was to create sentrys he went rouge and created vision. As seen in 838 ultron didn’t want to evolve
@@ked49 again, that only applied in the 616. Ultron is not the same in every universe
I am still holding out hope that the all white vision knows who Peter Parker is!!
Did Vision knows him in the first place?
Who is that anyways ?
@@artist0154 I feel as though he did, he as full access to the Stark Industries database
@@50BandG33K sounds more like an unlikely reach the more you talk about it lol
Peter Parker who? 🤔
Hehe just kidding 😁
Couldn't the perfection of the Ultron Sentries mean there was no need for Vision then? That means that realities Loki septor still have the stone in it
Or Wanda blew it up.
Infinite possibilities. The mind stone could be up a goats ass on the moon in 838. The sentries, like you say, could have been made by anyone, stark, pym, banner, richards etc.
@@bmuzza Or they may even have just spontaneously popped into existence.
@@ishaanupreti6438 different universe, different story
Those lines between vision and wanda are so good. I hope they will meet again.
Marvel Studios needs to give Wanda and Vision a movie!
Or at least a season 2
They just had more than a movie. Time to move on because there are way too many other Marvel folks that haven't had any screen time.
Yes
I think Vision is done. But Wanda will continue. (Even though Wanda is dead and Vision is still alive.)
@@dellcoc like who? Who is more interesting than the most powerful being in the MCU?
Well. Ultron created Vision technically, and since 838's Ultron clearly succeeded in becoming the "suit of armor around the world" instead of determining humans as a threat, he would never have created the Vision body with the intent of transferring into it, thus Vision was never born.
I wanted Vision to use the Darkhold and tell Wanda to stop.
Wouldn’t you have to be able to tap into some sort of magic.
@@ohawwgeez3112 Good question. It looks like an AI named AIDA used it in Agents of Shield to basically create a human body for herself. I guess you don't have to posses magic exactly, but you do probably have to have some higher level of conciousness or something.
Can anyone explain how it took Wanda's kids an obscene amount of time to acknowledge the huge star shaped hole RIGHT IN FRONT OF THEM at the end of the film? Made me laugh.
Maybe they are just used to seeing portals opening up in their advanced universe. Even the main timeline is weird enough that the bartender in Mexico had no surprise when Eddie disappeared. He was just concerned about his bill. What they were terrified of was an evil witch walking through the portal.
They are very special kids.
@@ishaanupreti6438 these things are kinda dumb tho, even if its common, cool things are still cool and most people will stop by and admire it
@@haveidonethisbefore Maybe that is why they just looked without saying anything for a few seconds.
@@ishaanupreti6438 I mean what happens in the MCU I wouldn't be surprised that no one's surprised by anything anymore
One thing I never understood is 1) how did sword get in to Wakanda 2) Why would the avengers let Sword take Vision's body instead of keeping it at the compound
I have often wondered this as well, but I assume keeping a corpse for five years in your house might seem odd. Maybe they hoped he could be ressurected
2) sokovia accords .
1) idk
Department of damage control
@@larrydavis7689 Damage control helps but still doesn't line up with history of wankanda. Wakanda opened up to help other nations but not to let others come in
1 it was bairied out side of wakanda
2 they are criminals
We never see vision in the movie or anything, I’m guessing Ultron never went rogue in 838 so Vision never had to exist, you don’t give any proof that Vision ever existed in 838, and I don’t think he ever did.
I think Wanda hooked up with Ralph
I'm not sure Vision ever existed in 838. If Ultron was invented to be a shield around Earth and never rebelled, then Vision wouldn't be created.
Maybe it did rebel and was later fixed. Or maybe he didn't and was good, but just like the evil Ultron, wanted to become a person, with a living body, more human. So he made the body anyways, and the sentries do the different jobs like protecting the Illuminati headquarters. So maybe, in 838, Ultron is Wanda's husband.
Vision has so many great monologues
I miss when this channel has actual fact-based theories instead of just a hodge-podge of wacky ideas with nothing to back it up other than, "This would be cool"
Do you think white vision saved scarlet witch from the rockfall at the end of the film?
Well, they didnt had to build Ultron and fight against him to have ultron sentries. Since they are far more advanced, Tony Stark could just built them as a weapons, or they could have just been a part of this defense planet system or sth. We dont know how Tony Stark looks in this universe, maybe his armor looks more like Ultron, so he made more suits looking like this.
Why weren't Tony Stark or the other Avengers there with the Illuminati on Titan when they defeated Thanos?
@@ehteshamashraf7627 Well, we first have to assume, that Tony Stark exist in this universe. These ultron sentries could be someone else's idea.
@@ehteshamashraf7627 It's likely that the Illuminati caught wind of Thanos somehow and pre-emptively tried to address the problems he was created before they escalated further. Thanos-838 was killed on Titan, which means the snap never occurred because Thanos died two stones short. There wasn't a need to call the Avengers.
@@leomoreno7369 a smart move by the Illuminati!
nobody has explored the possibility that Vision is just a dead beat dad that left the family in these other universes. probably left after the kids tried that ice cream song on him
Vision wouldn’t have been created in 838, since it looks like ultron was a success by stark not a evil failure !
“Vis had his theories” * LOUD DRAMATIC HORNS * lmfaoooo 😂😂😂
But if they created ultron sentries that served the purpose of a shield around the world without a corrupted ultron etc then they would always be under control and a rogue ultron wouldn’t have tried to make vision. The mind stone will still be in lokis sceptre?
Yeah I think he’s making a lot of assumptions to determine that Vision was even created. I don’t think Ultron would have gone rogue at all in that universe, they just created the sentries, so Ultron wouldn’t have made vision.
With 838, Vision may have never been made.
Ultron was intended to be a suit of armor around the world, so it stands to reason that 838 Ultron never went rogue, and thus never actually made Vision.
That’s only how it happened in the 616 there’s no law that says vision can’t exist if ultron worked
Different universe, different story.
With 838 having the Ultron robots, I feel like Vision was never created since the Ultron program didnt go rogue like in Age Of Ultron, meaning that 838 Wanda never fell in love with Vision, lose Vision and ultimately becoming the Scarlett Witch.
I think they’re saving him for the Young Avengers, he played a huge role in their first run in the comics
I’m dying at the visuals of Vision creeping on Wanda and looking at Tawaret
I agree with this. The fact that it’s the exact same house proves it’s vision and not some nameless nobody
Vision was fully functional. And programmed in multiple techniques.
Yo that laughing yoooooo 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
6:41
What if 838 Ultron transferred himself into Visions body but Avengers managed to control it in the end battle and hence Illuminati has Ultron Sentrys
So you are saying those might be Wanda and Ultron's kids ?
@@ishaanupreti6438 maybe
Wanada wanted that iron rod
Love how wandavision was playing on the TV when professor x got killed
did you know that in what if e8 at the end when we saw Doctor Strange at his entries he had 3 eyes also in e8 the infinity Ultron and the Watcher went throw other universes like America shaves and Doctor Strange
Dang, Vision is PACKING... i need me a vision in my life ngl
I believe White Vision is being saved for the solo Scarlett Witch film.
I for one will not being seeing that 💩
If Vision can create a cape to match Thor. He can create a ... Purple to make the Scarlet happy.
Well vision was listening to Rhodey say “Booooooom looking for this!”. Can’t blame him. I would too
How COULD Wanda have had the twins naturally and with Vision as the father? Is that even possible? In some comic universes, Pietro is the father which, gross, but biologically it makes sense. It struck me as odd that they never even touched on where the boys came from, and whether or not they were they were born or created
According to Visions actor, he had a purple... umm donk. So it can be guessed he can produce the stuff needed.
StepPietro I'm stuck
Sweet home westview
Isn't the most popular storyline the one in which it was confirmed they're pieces of Mephisto's soul?
What is so hard to understand, Vision is a biological, living being. He can have children.
Every night I have the same dream and every morning I have the same nightmare.
The way I took 838 Ultron is that they're being either controlled by vision or vision was the basis for the Ultron program because the Ultron bots have a yellow light, not a blue light
Something has been bothering me and maybe it’s a stupid question, but shouldn’t the 883 reality outcome with Thanos dead have been one the possible futures Strange saw when he looked at the 14 million outcomes of the conflict on Titan?
That's a different timeline. Strange only saw possibilities on Earth 616.
The Earth 838 has different realities.
Strange wouldn't have been able to see the multiverse at that time because it was still under control of the TVA. He was only searching this timeline, not other universes.
What strange saw was different tinelines within the same universe, aka 616 only.
Universe 838 maybe had more timelines in which Thanos is defeated.
Ah okay I get it. Thanks guys.
everyone: Vision what happened with you and Wanda?
Vision: Me and Wanda don't talk no more
1:14 Hex vision: what a dick... I know he can phase shift, yet he's gotta fly through a perfectly good window
Am I the only one who doesn't think Disney actually has an overarching storyline post Endgame? I actually think they are in see what sticks mode.
No, you aren't.
Kinda seems like they are buying time for the launch of FF and X-Men
@@randomcharacter6501I am hoping that X-Men follows What If and multiverse of madness and just becomes a live action extension of the animated series, which means it would take place in the 90s, which is the only way to redeem it. Oh, and Henry Cavill as Cyclops. That's right, I said it.
Maybe the bots were created by 838's Dr. Bolivar Trask, and they have nothing to do with Vision or Stark.
I disagree about 838 vision. I propose he doesn’t exist at all. Vision only existed in the 616 because ultron turned out corrupted and homicidal. 838 has ultron bots because he worked meaning vision would never have been made at all. Wanda had kids with someone else… wonder who that was.
Ralph Bohner..there u go u have the answer
Everyone keeps assuming that just because it happened that way in 616 it not happening equals no vision. It’s the exact same house and this movie ties in heavily to WandaVision why wouldn’t it be him
Narrative of Self is the result of a feedback loop between “Separate Self” & Cosmos🎈
Lmao Wanda and Vis divorced because Vis was busy cleaning another Witch's gutters
I was trying to remember where I've seen the transparent shots of characters doing different things while an electric guitar plays in the background and then the short clip of Burn Notice at 8:04 reminded me where I used to see it. Burn Notice lol. With Bruce Campbell no less
Couldn't Thanos not gotten the time stone and therefore couldn't bring vision back to life to get the mind stone. So vision is dead because Wanda killed him.
It's possiible that Ultron never went rogue in 838 universe, too
Being a successful project since the beggining, and thus never creating Vision's body.
Common dark avengers
838 vision coulda been killed by Thanos? I thought that was a miss here. White vision should have came to save Scarlett witch at the end of MOM
White vision turned into one of those colouring pages
Thank you for explaining this, definitely needed an answer.
If “overthinking” was a video!!
I'm so late to see this video... But Vision is probable busy painting himself green and gold.. 😂
I'm not convinced that Ultron existed as we know him in 838. Theres nothing to say those bots weren't created exactly as they are and never went rogue, thus never creating Vision.
There’s not a law that states vision can’t exist of ultron goes rogue
616's White Vision was probably off trying to stop Kingpin and Moon Knight(s) from copying his all-white costume idea.
I’ll go with Doctor Manhattan blue 😜
Vision is like “that bitc* is CRAZY, like Amber Heard crazy”
Lmao bye
The Fantastic Four minus one member is officially known as "The Thrantastic Three"; it's canon so don't question it.
White Vision 616: I had a dream of my 838 self having a ship of thesis argument with Wanda then shot to the skies for a celebrate life.
Thanos 838: It would have been a waste of parts😂😂😂😂
People should remember White Vision is the physical Body of the old Vision with his memories restored by Hex Vision but he did not retain the empathy and morals of the original Vision had. So technically you could say he remembers Wanda and everything but he simply doesn’t care or doesn’t know how to and they're pretty much saving for armor wars
In 838 the ultron program worked. Remember how Tony wanted to put suits of armor around the world which he called the Ultron Program. That program probably turned out as planned hence the sentry robots. Due to this, there was no Vision created and probably Wanda went on to marry a normal person and hence kids. (Possibility).
What if vision was the 7th member of the illuminati, representing android kind
Another thing worth mentioning is that Thanos from the Illuminati universe did not have the Mind Stone, which means that Vision was most likely alive at the time when Thanos was defeated by Supreme Strange.
Or there isn't a vision in that universe they kinda brush over that part. We see no tony or banner mention in the illuminati universe so it stands to reason the illuminati universe didn't have the same ultron problem the 616 universe did so that being said vision may or may not have been in that universe at all. Without Tony there wouldn't be a vision. And in the illuminati universe there is no mention of tony at all.
Erik mentioned that point in another video as well as this one at 2:51...
Glad to know I'm not the only one who somehow doesn't catch all the points in the video 😂
@@damunaik4 aah right haha, my mistake
Divorce Vision sounds like a weird/chase/walmart Funko Vision
Two things, Vision does not need the stone to survive as Tony and Bruce stated in Infinity War so a version of him has to be out there, stone or not. Second, Mordo dismissed Wanda during the attack on the Illuminati because he was so blinded by his feelings for Strange and his desire to bring him to “justice”
Even if 838s history followed 616's to a T prior to splitting into an alternate universe/timeline (Loki used timelines but it feels like going forwards everyone is sticking with universes), Vision's creation is dependent on evil Ultron, but Ultron sentries are not dependent on the creation of Vision.
Hell, the absence of Tony and the presence of Reed suggests that this Ultron program was the successful creation of the latter. Perhaps collaborated with the comicbook-true creator of Ultron, Hank Pym. 838 could have not experienced Age of Ultron at all, they made the "suit of armor around the world" without trouble. It's a utopian reality, where most things go their way...
these are all just excuses because bettany couldn’t sign on for the film ;-;
I’m pretty sure he would’ve hopped on if asked to
They should've included Vision and Agatha in the movie.
it’s called doctor strange MoM not Wanda Family Reunion
i loved how this video went from talking about what happened to vision to the colour if visions d-
So I gotta ask which sword agent had to dismantle vision’s blood pumping possible baby making purple……… yea lol
3:30 Or there never was a Vision in 838 because Ultron was never given sentience or it never went mad. Vision was only created by putting Jarvis in the body for Ultron powered by the stone, if Ultron never goes mad or was never given the AI and was only created as drones then no Vision. Also, explains why Wanda has actual kids in this world since androids can't exactly do the deed as being able to manipulate matter to create an appendage doesn't mean you can produce gametes.
I saw your video. After watching the movie, it looks like wanda is not awared that the avengers found a way to travel back in time. There is possibility to retrieve the darkhold again like the avengers did with the infinity stones. The darkhold and book of vishanti are not completely gone at least in the past. 😬😬😬
Vision: We've said good bye before. So it stands to reason.
Wanda: We'll say hello again.
Me: *CRIES
Me: *Chest feels heavy
Me: *Doesn't stop crying
Strange: You're children weren't real. You created them using magic."
Wanda: "That's what every mother does"
Strange. "No, they use their bodies, a man's sperm, and sexy time. You literally used magic to create your children."
Now I want a buddy cop movie with Paul Bettany and Bruce Campbell
wait a minute.....so if the human dna in vision came from Dr. Helen Cho....shouldnt Wanda's kids be wasian???
I assumed that the presence of the Ultron bots meant that Ultron was created as intended and didn't go evil, so the events of AoU never happen and thus Vision is never created. But Olsen's comments are interesting. Maybe 838 Vision will follow his comic counterpart and make a synthezoid family and we get Vivian Vision from the Champions!
838’s Vision is a deadbeat dad :P
I love the idea of White Vision being in Armor Wars!
My impression was that Vision never was created in 838 as the Ultron bots didn't go bad...
Doubt that since it’s the exact same property vision wanted to live in with Wanda. And everyone here keeps assuming ultron not going rogue= no vision. This is the multiverse just because it happened that way in 616 does not mean it cannot happen differently in other universes
My guess is armor wars is somewhere on the horizon.
wait, i just realised that earth 838 has their moon so close. does that mean something as to why they had to be so eco-friendly and that everyone was carrying umbrellas and trenchcoats?
Wanda is basically Krillin looking for a dragon that can turn 18 human
Not adding vision was a HUGE hole. If he is alive then he should have been in the movie.
Wouldn't some universes be Good Ultron and Vision wouldn't exist or be the same as we know him?
Yes. But the thing that makes people like America and Clea special is that they aren't in every universe so maybe there is a form of everyone in every universe so maybe a vision but say a human one instead of a robot
It's good to know vision have a little brother 😅😅
He’s at trials of Depp and Heard
Would’ve been great to do a Blue Chew Plug right after vision blood pumping comment lmao
You assume the first Ultron went rogue. If Reed Richards helped create Ultron it's possible Ultron never was corrupted.
He was preparing for court with Johnny...
"Prefers ship metaphors to couples therapy"!!!
I lol'd. :3
"i've seen visions that'll turn you white!"
@@ihorshyshak2640 bahahaha! 😂
Vision went out for smokes and a lottery ticket.
He became the power source for the convergence engine is that dimension
Vision's infinity stone being the same colour as the Ultron bots' eyes leads me to believe that maybe vision himself took control over them.