@@gameofgames1897 If AMD can compete with Nvidia products directly, the only differentiating factor would be the price. I hope i dont have to explain to you that it can only benefit the consumer.
@@petkoivanov8800 Holy but then there are diff models of the XTX and some pull too much. I got the AMD retail version and it does not pull more than 350w.
The power draw you are seeing on the XTX is for the whole board power. Meaning that is the power draw of the whole graphics card. On Nvidia the power draw you see is just for the GPU itself not the whole board. I wish AMD woould just show the GPU power draw as well, but it is what it is, I guess.
in my country the difference is a little crazy 317USD More for the 1080 Super.. with that in mind and the acceptance that the card doesnt have the extra functions.. what would you suggest?
@@strk_isa Bro, in nost counties they cost the same. Where I live, there is no price difference. And you only get on average 5-10 fps increase without rt. Game changes with rt on.
@@Guccidasein would rather run in native with higher fps, than with dlss, since your not exactly running in 1440p, and in terms of software amd's adrenaline has been better until recently the new nvidia app, makes them even, drivers are pretty much the same right now for both, nvidia has nvenc encoder and other tools which is good for content creation/streaming, and is better for raytracing, however raytracing is only implemented good and makes a different in a few titles so it is not really a major factor. overall amd is better for gamers who want the most fps per dollar/bang for your buck. nvidia is better for content creators. i would pick the 7900xtx since i just play games, and it is cheaper in my country as well, so price is also a determining factor
@@Cyberpunk2077-j3f the card is significantly more efficient using in several cases 2-3less GB of VRAM than the 7900 XTX and when ray tracing is applied it absolutely dominates the 7900 XTX
In my country here in PH You can get a sapphire xtx for 65K 1100USD And for addtional 100usd you can get the 4080 Super Gigabyte gaming OC Which one to get?
If you're a streamer or uses their gpu for productivity i.e video editing, get the 4080 super, if you're just a gamer and don't care about ray tracing, get the 7900 xtx.
@@jmoney164I was in the same position as you a few days ago and I went with the xtx. I saved $100 and for 4k it seems like the better decision most of the time
I have 5950x and ive recently sold my RTX 3090, and now im looking to upgrade to one of these two cards. Id like to hear suggestions from you all. Ty all 😊
i got a 4080 trinity oc, and what i have seen from new games, i would wait if i was you and pick up a 5080.. unless you can get a used 4080 for like 700$. cause after tax a 1100$ 4080 costed about 1300-1400$Usd.. I had a 5900x and went to a 7800x3d as well. best advice is to wait, and not get amd card, they suck in ray tracing and some new games force a bit of ray tracing, killing performance..
iv got both a 7900xtx and 4080 super, i dont use DLSS or ray tracing for the games i play, and mainly play VR games, its not even close, the 7900xtx has the 4080 well beaten, it runs better, games are smoother, it can chew through the juice mind but so will a 4080 on full tilt. a couple of things to bare in mind though, the performance increase over my 3090 wasnt what i expected, so perhaps wait n see what the big green machine will pump out for the 50xx cards...... and iv had some serious hot spot issues with my 7900xtx, i had to install a PTM pad to fix the problem.
@@toweleeielite you cant compare the 2 gpus, if you are gonna handicap one of them, ray tracing performance is built into the whole design of the gpu, to make it what it is.. Turn on ray tracing and see if 7900xtx still wins.. But you already know the answer dont you.. "of course my 7900xtx beats your 4090 if you limit the 4090 to 100 watts" 😂😂
@@turboimport95 mate, i know the big green machine has its plus points, but for me, and many others, at the moment RT isnt being used in the games i play, and the DLSS is not very good for VR. I can only comment on my own real world experience with both, id choose he 7900xtx every time unless i was wanting to win a pi**ing contest on cyberpunk. and iv also pointed out that the AMD card can have some serious mechanical issues with the heat pump situation on the cooler paste. im just being honest..... i dont support team green or team red, i just want whats best for us, the gamer.....
@@toweleeielite its fine, just dont claim one card is better if you are only using it a specific way and limiting the other. Amd is known for hot issues, that is why i got a 4080 instead of the 7900xtx.
Drivers must not be up to date.. 4080SUPER and 7900XTX are neck to neck. Trading blows with minimal margins of a difference. They’re practically the same performance.
if it was The 9800x3d then rx 7900xtx would be 20% better easily because of sam but technically its 10% because there is resizable bar in i9 but 9800x3d is better and amd cpu work better with amd gpu
Not really you would not get a 20% uplift, its no where near. It would be more 10% and that comared to SAM off. If you try Resizeble bar it would also make 8-10% to off. But you are Right AMD GPU and CPU are much better fit from this day on. First AMD CPU are right now the only Choice to make and sec with AMD gotten better with the GPU side and that can do most things as good as Nvidia or better Outside of gaming and 3rd being ez to use with only one APP for both CPU/GPU.
Not 20%.. but yes AMD GPUs work better on AMD CPUs than on Intel CPUs and it can but up to 10% but it's not always the case... some games work better with Intel CPUs. Anyway at 4k, the CPU is less important than at lower resolution... the difference between a 5800x3D and a 9800x3D is barely 2% at 4k
A en juger par la vidéo de Resident Evil, l'auteur n'utilise pas d'ultra-preset car il nécessite 13Go de mémoire en full HD et les 16Go recommandés donc le test n'en vaut pas la peine
All games have lighting options like ray tracing and DLSS. With cards that are very expensive 7900 xtx and 4080s. You have the right to activate all lighting options. We should enable all graphics options. Why deprive yourself of ray tracing? This adds high definition shadows! for example, on wow war within, I activate ray tracing, this gives very beautiful ultra high definition shadows on your character. These tests make no sense ! if for example the 7900xtx is less efficient in anti-aliasing. Next time do a test without Anti-aliasing :p
Many people may not know this, but this video appears to have been benchmarked with NVIDIA's DLSS3, frame generation, and Ryzen's FSR turned off, that is, with only the raw performance of the GPU. In terms of raw performance, the Ryzen 7900XTX is slightly better, but if you enable NVIDIA's DLSS3, FRAME GENERATION and turn on Ryzen's FSR, the results are the opposite. NVIDIA's DLSS is a system that lowers the image quality and then upscales it again. This technology is barely noticeable. However, Ryzen's FSR works in a similar way to DLSS, but the lower image quality is more noticeable. The reason people prefer NVIDIA is because of DLSS and FG. If this technology did not exist, people would have naturally switched to Ryzen GPUs.In addition, in technologies such as ray tracing, nvidia had a 14% frame reduction, while ryzen had a frame reduction of more than 50%. These days, many games are coming out that can use ray tracing. These technical differences will certainly increase in number. Many people think that settings like DLSS are tricks, but I think that settings like DLSS are also a technology.
i get your point, but why would you buy a high end GPU and use a trick to upscale the resolution?... get a lower end model then, the high end models can handle everything at far more FPS than you can really use. I play everything 4k, ultra, no upscaling and i still cap at my monitor max frequency.. (LG C2 @120Hz) i have 2 7900xtx (sapphire and XFX) and a 4080 (gigabyte non super)... i play only on 7900xtx, it looks better i think (subjective) and it's faster at 4k then the 4080... i hate upscaling, it looks bad, even DLSS and i don't need the extra FPS. Last point: 7900xtx is cheaper than 4080... why would you spend more?
@@armirol for games now rtx 7900 xtx can play 60 4k but the upcoming games will need a better GPU for native 4k but dlss will help your GPU to achieve 60 fps
To anyone complaining AMD consuming more power than nvidia but it doesn't prove anything that amd has better pure performance and isn't too reliant on upscaling and raytracing
7900 xtx excessive consumption, poor energy efficiency, unoptimized driver, FSR less efficient than DLSS. Shadows, lighting much less efficient. And the features specific to Nvidia... I would have taken the 7900 xtx if it had been cheaper than the 4080S. I had the choice between an Nvidia 4080S FE and an Asrock 7900xtx taïchi (but slightly more expensive), I opted for the Nvidia 4080S FE but with a very good AMD ryzen 7800x3d CPU which does not consume much! and very efficient !
Ya all braging about ray tracing meanwhile having my 3080 i choose for most games to not turn it on,dont need that light in couple of corners n scenes for 30-50fps..now i gonna treat myself with 7900xtx and oh boy i got 29y i am happy like i am 12y...oh yes i forgot i got 20gb of vram...suck me nvidia with ur overprised low vram graphics marketing tricks💀☠️💀
its because 30 series does not have FG. 4070 and above can do RT at high FPS because of DLSS+FG. in my case i own 4070TiS - i can run wukong with RT with 90-100fps in 1440p
@lsnexus2080 @lsnexus2080 yeye what about vram,why nvidia on purpose put low vram so u can just by another one in 1 y or 2 they wont put more vram on big fat purpose more n more game ask for hugher vram usage i am more then happy with my decision or should i give 300e more just for better light no tnx i put those 300e on some cpu like 7800x3d 👋👋enough of market scamm nvidia
@@Schnappatmer0815 not happening. Amd is not making any more high end cards. Everything will be midrange now so the 7900 XTX could be their last powerful card.
When i see 4080s vs 7900xtx First 3-4 game will beter AMD (sh1t- i used ) but another all games will win 4080s. Absoultly 4080s. İf Dlss+ rtx finish this video
@smeagolgolum1107 yes ram is important but important for me Dlss and rtx however stability : Nvidia i never time problem with Nvidia but i have more problem with AMD. So i cant never buy next time AMD. CPU is %100 AMD but GPU never..
When time comes where 24 gb of vram matter both of the cards will become obsolete. You will need to upgrade with this type of game optimisation we have nowadays. Both cards already can struggle in certain games
@@crassusmaximus5879 Exactly. Raw performance amd comes out on top but where Ray tracing is concerned that's where nvidia brings the ball back in their court
@@lukebell476 thats great and all but this kind of reasoning allows the company to be lazy, the 8000 series has been rumored to have major leaps in RT because of the exact argument your stating, and so far we havnt heard anything about nividia besides that the 5080 has 16GB of vram again. only problem is that amd has stated they arnt doing high end gpus which means at the very least there is no 8900xtx and maybe even 8900xt.
Means nothing when you factor in Raytracing. Anyone who wants to argue can ask themselves why AMD's next lineup is pushing for even more raytracing and almost every game either has it or is pushing for it. Only an idiot would disregard raytracing.
In every poll ever done Ray tracing is an afterthought it's a novelty nobody buys a GPU because of Ray tracing and in most games you can't even notice it I want performance from my GPU all that other stuff it's okay
schlechter vergleich... 7900xtx ist das topmodell der 7000er serie... die 4080 S ist es nicht... hier müsste also mit einer 4090 verglichen werden.. denn die ist das topmodel der rtx4000er Serie... und jetzt schalten wir bitte auch noch Raytracing und Framegeneration an (halloooo es ist 2023...) UND dann sehen wir direkt warum es wohl keine highendkarten in der 8000er serie von amd mehr geben wird. hoffen wir das udna besser wird...
@@joeb1009 Englisch You can just sugarcoat anything if you want. Irrefutable fact: it is the top model, so I can only compare it with other top models. I'm interested in performance, not price. If I were interested in the price, I would buy a PS5. much cheaper than a gaming pc.
So amd is around 25% more inefficient when it comes to vram usage in games compared to nvidia. Interesting stuff... This means 4080 vram size is equivalent to an amd gpu with about 20gb vram in games.
I dont know man, I get 110fps on CP2077 using Psycho Overdrive presets with Path Tracing turned off. Game runs smooth and look stunning on my XTX. 3440x1440 resolution
@@Randy1124pr Exactly! My XTX at 5120x1440 does fantastic with FMF when above 60fps native! People need to get out of their fanboy bubbles and take a serious look at all options. I have jumped between AMD & Nvidia over the past 20 years based on what is the best product on the whole. The XTX with RT, FSR & FMF is VERY capable and trades blows with the 4080S under the same conditions.
@ facts, it obviously doesn’t match the 4080s when it comes to RT but it’s close to the 3090 which is no slouch, then if you turn AFMF you duplicate your FPS and even though they’re not *Real FPS* it does make the game feel smoother.
@Randy1124pr The 4080S runs out of vram at anything above High 1440p UW w/ RT. The XTX simply doesn't. Both cards need DLSS/FSR + FG to get high FPS under those conditions. Granted DLSS is a superior technology visually, but when all technologies are employed above 1440p UW the XTX wins and I would argue most people with XTX/80S/90 do play that way. RT is a non-issue until there is less than 10% loss in FPS when employing the tech. The overwhelming majority of gamers would rather 30% more FPS and no RT. I know I prefer Native 5120x1440 High+ settings and FMF for my 120-150 FPS gaming.
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If AMD can improve their Ray tracing and super sampling capabilities, Nvidia would have to come down in price
Yea but people would still buy nvidia over amd
They won’t though. They already said that they gave up
If AMD does this, I'd definitely switch in a heartbeat... if they actually keep their prices.
So you want amd to do all that and keep the prices? How delusional you can be xD
@@gameofgames1897 If AMD can compete with Nvidia products directly, the only differentiating factor would be the price. I hope i dont have to explain to you that it can only benefit the consumer.
Can you run the same test with DLSS and FSR on?
@@clintsundeen6327 and raytracing
Why is the XTX power Over the TDP? Is that the highes Power spike or just overall power use?
i have xtx and can say, under load its stay around 420/430w (spike can go around 500w)
@@petkoivanov8800 Holy but then there are diff models of the XTX and some pull too much. I got the AMD retail version and it does not pull more than 350w.
@@listX_DE i use Asus tuf, its pull 430w but from Adrenalin software i set power limit +15% !!!
@@petkoivanov8800 Well that makes sense now
The power draw you are seeing on the XTX is for the whole board power. Meaning that is the power draw of the whole graphics card. On Nvidia the power draw you see is just for the GPU itself not the whole board. I wish AMD woould just show the GPU power draw as well, but it is what it is, I guess.
Merci beaucoup.
Super comparatif !
in my country the difference is a little crazy 317USD More for the 1080 Super.. with that in mind and the acceptance that the card doesnt have the extra functions.. what would you suggest?
the rtx is waste of money
@@strk_isa Bro, in nost counties they cost the same. Where I live, there is no price difference. And you only get on average 5-10 fps increase without rt. Game changes with rt on.
@@smeiss98dya why pay for more get less vram and fps
Frame gen would give +20% fps, dlss is a little better than fsr, you can play with raytracing and soft is better
@@Guccidasein would rather run in native with higher fps, than with dlss, since your not exactly running in 1440p, and in terms of software amd's adrenaline has been better until recently the new nvidia app, makes them even, drivers are pretty much the same right now for both, nvidia has nvenc encoder and other tools which is good for content creation/streaming, and is better for raytracing, however raytracing is only implemented good and makes a different in a few titles so it is not really a major factor.
overall amd is better for gamers who want the most fps per dollar/bang for your buck.
nvidia is better for content creators.
i would pick the 7900xtx since i just play games, and it is cheaper in my country as well, so price is also a determining factor
@@Cyberpunk2077-j3f the card is significantly more efficient using in several cases 2-3less GB of VRAM than the 7900 XTX and when ray tracing is applied it absolutely dominates the 7900 XTX
What were the drivers ? Meaning, were they the last released ?
In my country here in PH
You can get a sapphire xtx for 65K 1100USD
And for addtional 100usd you can get the 4080 Super Gigabyte gaming OC
Which one to get?
If you're a streamer or uses their gpu for productivity i.e video editing, get the 4080 super, if you're just a gamer and don't care about ray tracing, get the 7900 xtx.
if you want to do VR , nvidia
Thanks guys, id proly get the XFX 7900xtx its 100$cheaper here
@@jmoney164I was in the same position as you a few days ago and I went with the xtx. I saved $100 and for 4k it seems like the better decision most of the time
I have 5950x and ive recently sold my RTX 3090, and now im looking to upgrade to one of these two cards. Id like to hear suggestions from you all. Ty all 😊
i got a 4080 trinity oc, and what i have seen from new games, i would wait if i was you and pick up a 5080.. unless you can get a used 4080 for like 700$. cause after tax a 1100$ 4080 costed about 1300-1400$Usd.. I had a 5900x and went to a 7800x3d as well. best advice is to wait, and not get amd card, they suck in ray tracing and some new games force a bit of ray tracing, killing performance..
iv got both a 7900xtx and 4080 super, i dont use DLSS or ray tracing for the games i play, and mainly play VR games, its not even close, the 7900xtx has the 4080 well beaten, it runs better, games are smoother, it can chew through the juice mind but so will a 4080 on full tilt. a couple of things to bare in mind though, the performance increase over my 3090 wasnt what i expected, so perhaps wait n see what the big green machine will pump out for the 50xx cards...... and iv had some serious hot spot issues with my 7900xtx, i had to install a PTM pad to fix the problem.
@@toweleeielite you cant compare the 2 gpus, if you are gonna handicap one of them, ray tracing performance is built into the whole design of the gpu, to make it what it is.. Turn on ray tracing and see if 7900xtx still wins.. But you already know the answer dont you.. "of course my 7900xtx beats your 4090 if you limit the 4090 to 100 watts" 😂😂
@@turboimport95 mate, i know the big green machine has its plus points, but for me, and many others, at the moment RT isnt being used in the games i play, and the DLSS is not very good for VR. I can only comment on my own real world experience with both, id choose he 7900xtx every time unless i was wanting to win a pi**ing contest on cyberpunk. and iv also pointed out that the AMD card can have some serious mechanical issues with the heat pump situation on the cooler paste. im just being honest..... i dont support team green or team red, i just want whats best for us, the gamer.....
@@toweleeielite its fine, just dont claim one card is better if you are only using it a specific way and limiting the other. Amd is known for hot issues, that is why i got a 4080 instead of the 7900xtx.
Drivers must not be up to date.. 4080SUPER and 7900XTX are neck to neck. Trading blows with minimal margins of a difference. They’re practically the same performance.
if it was The 9800x3d then rx 7900xtx would be 20% better easily because of sam but technically its 10% because there is resizable bar in i9 but 9800x3d is better and amd cpu work better with amd gpu
Not really you would not get a 20% uplift, its no where near. It would be more 10% and that comared to SAM off. If you try Resizeble bar it would also make 8-10% to off. But you are Right AMD GPU and CPU are much better fit from this day on. First AMD CPU are right now the only Choice to make and sec with AMD gotten better with the GPU side and that can do most things as good as Nvidia or better Outside of gaming and 3rd being ez to use with only one APP for both CPU/GPU.
Not 20%.. but yes AMD GPUs work better on AMD CPUs than on Intel CPUs and it can but up to 10% but it's not always the case... some games work better with Intel CPUs.
Anyway at 4k, the CPU is less important than at lower resolution... the difference between a 5800x3D and a 9800x3D is barely 2% at 4k
Now switch ray tracing on... Completely different picture. RTX all day
Exactly, the point of the nvidia cards is to get access to DLSS and amazing RT. What’s the point if u don’t use it
yea sure ! Great ray tracing quality with 40-50 fps is many games.
In most games Ray tracing is useless in you can't even notice any difference
@@justmejustme3042 no
A en juger par la vidéo de Resident Evil, l'auteur n'utilise pas d'ultra-preset car il nécessite 13Go de mémoire en full HD et les 16Go recommandés donc le test n'en vaut pas la peine
All games have lighting options like ray tracing and DLSS. With cards that are very expensive 7900 xtx and 4080s. You have the right to activate all lighting options. We should enable all graphics options. Why deprive yourself of ray tracing? This adds high definition shadows! for example, on wow war within, I activate ray tracing, this gives very beautiful ultra high definition shadows on your character.
These tests make no sense ! if for example the 7900xtx is less efficient in anti-aliasing. Next time do a test without Anti-aliasing :p
I didn't spend $1,000 on a GPU for an upscaler smh
Many people may not know this, but this video appears to have been benchmarked with NVIDIA's DLSS3, frame generation, and Ryzen's FSR turned off, that is, with only the raw performance of the GPU. In terms of raw performance, the Ryzen 7900XTX is slightly better, but if you enable NVIDIA's DLSS3, FRAME GENERATION and turn on Ryzen's FSR, the results are the opposite. NVIDIA's DLSS is a system that lowers the image quality and then upscales it again. This technology is barely noticeable. However, Ryzen's FSR works in a similar way to DLSS, but the lower image quality is more noticeable. The reason people prefer NVIDIA is because of DLSS and FG. If this technology did not exist, people would have naturally switched to Ryzen GPUs.In addition, in technologies such as ray tracing, nvidia had a 14% frame reduction, while ryzen had a frame reduction of more than 50%. These days, many games are coming out that can use ray tracing. These technical differences will certainly increase in number. Many people think that settings like DLSS are tricks, but I think that settings like DLSS are also a technology.
i get your point, but why would you buy a high end GPU and use a trick to upscale the resolution?... get a lower end model then, the high end models can handle everything at far more FPS than you can really use.
I play everything 4k, ultra, no upscaling and i still cap at my monitor max frequency.. (LG C2 @120Hz)
i have 2 7900xtx (sapphire and XFX) and a 4080 (gigabyte non super)... i play only on 7900xtx, it looks better i think (subjective) and it's faster at 4k then the 4080... i hate upscaling, it looks bad, even DLSS and i don't need the extra FPS.
Last point: 7900xtx is cheaper than 4080... why would you spend more?
@@armiroldo you have path tracing and ray reconstruction? That's the point of the RTX card. Higher image quality while maintaining FPS
@@armirol for games now rtx 7900 xtx can play 60 4k but the upcoming games will need a better GPU for native 4k but dlss will help your GPU to achieve 60 fps
@@mr.migiagi and what do you think FSR 3.1 will do? You can play any game on earth 4K 60 with the Radeon card
AMD has the better power GPU, more power for less and its 1 generation behind, wtf nvidia is doing? they are charging you for dlss at this point
To anyone complaining AMD consuming more power than nvidia but it doesn't prove anything that amd has better pure performance and isn't too reliant on upscaling and raytracing
7900 xtx excessive consumption, poor energy efficiency, unoptimized driver, FSR less efficient than DLSS. Shadows, lighting much less efficient. And the features specific to Nvidia... I would have taken the 7900 xtx if it had been cheaper than the 4080S. I had the choice between an Nvidia 4080S FE and an Asrock 7900xtx taïchi (but slightly more expensive), I opted for the Nvidia 4080S FE but with a very good AMD ryzen 7800x3d CPU which does not consume much! and very efficient !
just got the tachi for 6400 kr and the 4080 was 9000 kr.
200E cheaper and more powerful ! Nvidia the same overpriced greedy crap
@konubi Why... AN NVIDIA FEMBOY
AMD was literally blowing NVIDIA away. That's not to say that NVIDIA is bad, what I mean is that in this case AMD is better.
Then you made a stupid decision
I’ll take the $700 to $800 card with more vram please.
why dlss and raytracing is off !? turn it on and test again and 100% RTX 4080S win
RT is overrated Too much FPS loss.
AMD more than Nvidia
Because we don't buy gpus for upscaler we buy gpus for GPU performance
In my place nvidia gpu is actually cheaper than amd lol, I can't even decide to go for which one
@nverend4450 the 4080 uses less power, runs cooler. Better raytracing and dlss 3.5 > fsr anyday. This video is a fairly unrealistic test favoring amd
Ya all braging about ray tracing meanwhile having my 3080 i choose for most games to not turn it on,dont need that light in couple of corners n scenes for 30-50fps..now i gonna treat myself with 7900xtx and oh boy i got 29y i am happy like i am 12y...oh yes i forgot i got 20gb of vram...suck me nvidia with ur overprised low vram graphics marketing tricks💀☠️💀
its because 30 series does not have FG. 4070 and above can do RT at high FPS because of DLSS+FG. in my case i own 4070TiS - i can run wukong with RT with 90-100fps in 1440p
@lsnexus2080 @lsnexus2080 yeye what about vram,why nvidia on purpose put low vram so u can just by another one in 1 y or 2 they wont put more vram on big fat purpose more n more game ask for hugher vram usage i am more then happy with my decision or should i give 300e more just for better light no tnx i put those 300e on some cpu like 7800x3d 👋👋enough of market scamm nvidia
@@lsnexus2080 30 series can use FSR FG :) if their own company screwed them over
@ not at all games. Take throne and Liberty for example. There’s dlss and fg but no amd fg.
there is difference between rtx and amd in usage vram
my next pc will be completely amd.
Lol
@clintsundeen6327 when it works well i will change to team amd! 💪😄
Since 1 Year i drive full amd setup - 5800x3D and Rx7900XT and its very good :) way better than my intel/nvidia build before. Never regreets :)
@@urktklirk9770 im waiting for the new highend amd gpu and the new amd cpus to be released. then ill pick the fastest ones for gaming for my new pc. 💪
@@Schnappatmer0815 not happening. Amd is not making any more high end cards. Everything will be midrange now so the 7900 XTX could be their last powerful card.
Amobg Us and Back 4 Blood test game ?
When i see 4080s vs 7900xtx First 3-4 game will beter AMD (sh1t- i used ) but another all games will win 4080s. Absoultly 4080s. İf Dlss+ rtx finish this video
in 4k xtx is still winning in most cases
and for future it has 24 gb vram
@smeagolgolum1107 yes ram is important but important for me Dlss and rtx however stability : Nvidia i never time problem with Nvidia but i have more problem with AMD. So i cant never buy next time AMD. CPU is %100 AMD but GPU never..
When time comes where 24 gb of vram matter both of the cards will become obsolete. You will need to upgrade with this type of game optimisation we have nowadays. Both cards already can struggle in certain games
@@smeiss98d
To what extent is the card outdated? 24 VRAM is 24 GB VRAM. To have it or not to have it....
@@smeagolgolum1107 You won't use the card long enough to EVER need close to 24 GB VRAM. Never ever.
rx 7900 xtx will age better! It will probably achieve the same performance as the 4090
it wont
gddr6x>gddr6
No because Raster is DEAD. Future games will all be ray traced.
@@AmigoAmigo-w5pcan you tell the difference? Nooo you can try if you want
Ya but it will take another generation after rtx5000s and rx 8000
@@Cyberpunk2077-j3f yes be prepared for Unreal 5.5 where RT will be a normal thing :)
just get a 4090 problem solved
Now do ray tracing max...
@@crassusmaximus5879 Exactly. Raw performance amd comes out on top but where Ray tracing is concerned that's where nvidia brings the ball back in their court
@@lukebell476 thats great and all but this kind of reasoning allows the company to be lazy, the 8000 series has been rumored to have major leaps in RT because of the exact argument your stating, and so far we havnt heard anything about nividia besides that the 5080 has 16GB of vram again. only problem is that amd has stated they arnt doing high end gpus which means at the very least there is no 8900xtx and maybe even 8900xt.
AMD needs much more Power for Just a few FPS more
sky high price
Means nothing when you factor in Raytracing. Anyone who wants to argue can ask themselves why AMD's next lineup is pushing for even more raytracing and almost every game either has it or is pushing for it. Only an idiot would disregard raytracing.
AMD likes to shoot themselves in the foot when it comes to GPU's, always behind. Awesome CPU's tho!
why ignore price, raster performance and vram? Raytracing is nice and all, but icing on the cake.
In every poll ever done Ray tracing is an afterthought it's a novelty nobody buys a GPU because of Ray tracing and in most games you can't even notice it I want performance from my GPU all that other stuff it's okay
@@kingtuckgesus8879 Plenty of people buy GPUs for ray tracing.
Se fosse pra eu ganhar pegava 4080 mas como é pra pagar 7900 kk
Tao o mesmo preco esses dias, alem disso considerando a diferenca minima de performance bruta é melhor ir de rtx pra poder brincar de ray tracing.
@@mateusferro271 calma que tbm não tenho grana pra isso kk to sofrendo pra juntar pra uma 4070 ti
schlechter vergleich... 7900xtx ist das topmodell der 7000er serie... die 4080 S ist es nicht... hier müsste also mit einer 4090 verglichen werden.. denn die ist das topmodel der rtx4000er Serie... und jetzt schalten wir bitte auch noch Raytracing und Framegeneration an (halloooo es ist 2023...) UND dann sehen wir direkt warum es wohl keine highendkarten in der 8000er serie von amd mehr geben wird. hoffen wir das udna besser wird...
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The comparison is to cards in the same price range, not the ambiguous "top model" category lol
@@joeb1009 Englisch
You can just sugarcoat anything if you want. Irrefutable fact: it is the top model, so I can only compare it with other top models. I'm interested in performance, not price. If I were interested in the price, I would buy a PS5. much cheaper than a gaming pc.
И тут включили DLSS качество и лучи ахаха
So amd is around 25% more inefficient when it comes to vram usage in games compared to nvidia. Interesting stuff... This means 4080 vram size is equivalent to an amd gpu with about 20gb vram in games.
@@specialist9404 games on AMD use more VRAM because there's more VRAM budget it has nothing to do with efficiency
More Vram - more Vram ussage - less stutters :)
Amd is the best
The 5090 will be faulty and lack luster. Ill skip a generation.
yeah i want a 6090 just cause..😂😂
@turboimport95 I usually skip one generation. Sometimes I dont if its worth it. This generation is evidently not. Ill stick with my 4090.
Turn on ray tracing, and xtx became is piece of shit
I dont know man, I get 110fps on CP2077 using Psycho Overdrive presets with Path Tracing turned off. Game runs smooth and look stunning on my XTX. 3440x1440 resolution
@@Randy1124pr Exactly!
My XTX at 5120x1440 does fantastic with FMF when above 60fps native!
People need to get out of their fanboy bubbles and take a serious look at all options.
I have jumped between AMD & Nvidia over the past 20 years based on what is the best product on the whole.
The XTX with RT, FSR & FMF is VERY capable and trades blows with the 4080S under the same conditions.
@ facts, it obviously doesn’t match the 4080s when it comes to RT but it’s close to the 3090 which is no slouch, then if you turn AFMF you duplicate your FPS and even though they’re not *Real FPS* it does make the game feel smoother.
@Randy1124pr The 4080S runs out of vram at anything above High 1440p UW w/ RT.
The XTX simply doesn't.
Both cards need DLSS/FSR + FG to get high FPS under those conditions.
Granted DLSS is a superior technology visually, but when all technologies are employed above 1440p UW the XTX wins and I would argue most people with XTX/80S/90 do play that way.
RT is a non-issue until there is less than 10% loss in FPS when employing the tech.
The overwhelming majority of gamers would rather 30% more FPS and no RT.
I know I prefer Native 5120x1440 High+ settings and FMF for my 120-150 FPS gaming.
@@richarddortch6122where are you seeing that it runs out of VRAM?