my biggest issue with Jorge is that HE DOESN'T GIVE HIMSELF ENOUGH CREDIT. like he wrote it and is the most prominent voice yet he never gives himself any credit
Bros the most humble guy ever, I remember him asking if he should be the one voicing Ody or if he should cast someone else- All the comments agreed that no way should anyone else voice Odysseus
@@Giveuponyourdreamsanddie2 yo that goes so well with what my friend said "Odysseus wanted to hear Poseidon beg and plead just as he himself had too. Multiple times."
Something fun I noticed. The back ground vocals in “I’m not sorry for loving you” are Calypso and Odysseus and them only. Bc those are the only voices Calypso knows.
I guess for the musical it made sense, but in the myth itself calypso was the child of atlas and has lived through the age of titans, so it doesn't make sense that he only ever knew about ody and hermes voice
Giving Poseidon a "God Move" called "Shatter the Ocean" is so anime, it's crazy. And the animatics completely up the anime feel, they did the same with that one Survive animatic when they animated Odysseus doing Captain Levi's signature spin move from AoT, or Neal Illustrator when they animated Zeus dropping a micro spirit bomb on Odysseus' ship for Thunder Bringer, and pretty all the insanity they animated for God Games (seriously Neal Illustrator's God Games Animatic is Goated, everyone should watch it.)
@@SolacedewAgreed the only thing I can say for sure is that the Suitors better start praying to every deity ever known cause no one will have the power to save them for what will come for them
I’m absolutely obsessed with The Challenge, I am so sorry for the person I will become when it releases. Every clip I hear of any Ithaca song is so good I am vibrating in excitement.
christmas is apparently jay’s favorite holiday, which is why it was released then in the first place. both the original Troy and the Storm sagas were released on Christmas, so that’s why everyone thinks it’ll come out then. although because of the recent passing of his cat, it might be pushed back slightly, which is totally fair.
I can't *_WAIT_* for the animators to get a hold of the second half of Six Hundred Strike because I've *_SEEN_* what they've done with Different Beast, so seeing that being translated to Odysseus stabbing Poseidon is going to be absolute *_FIRE_*
I didn't notice it until someone on tiktok had pointed it out, but right before Poseidon uses his God Move when he is reprising Ruthlessness, you can hear the Cyclops' voice behind his and it is so cool to me!
@@TIME-fe6ne 13:15 whenever he starts charging up his God Move, listen to when he says mercy upon and ourselves you can hear the cyclops voice with his
@@MikaylaP-iz1buRight! I had heard the difference voice but just assumed it was because he was powering up but didn't know it was his sons voice the cyclops
1:54 so a thing a buddy of mine and I noticed is that when Calypso originally sings her first song she doesn't have background singers like the other gods because she literally is alone on that island but the moment Hermes shows up she finally has those background singer she can call upon for this song and this song only.
The ocean saga came out Christmas Day, the circle saga came out February 13th the underworld came out April 26th. I wouldn’t be surprised if he dropped it New Year’s Day or in January
@@robbieg6838 the first version of the troy saga also came out on christmas before it had to be re-relased!! Its safe to say that ithaca drops either on christmas too or New years
@@matthewsimpson5529Yeah probably I bet the story is going to either be JUST the Troy saga and the preparations/fighting and arriving for war or a mixture of the cause of the war (i.e the Illiad) and the actual war
I saw someone said the reason why Poseidon’s screams are so melodic is because its music to odysseus’s ears.. And also Poseidon’s screams and cries are the danger motif.. FUN FACTS!
As beautiful as Not Sorry for Loving You is as a song, I still hate Calypso regardless. I understand the whole loneliness aspect and that she clearly didn’t have any good examples of relationships before she was dumped on her island, no amount of nuance will make me feel sympathy for her. Even in this song she puts the blame and onus on Odysseus, ‘I’m sorry my love was too much for you’ and then not even committing to a half-assed apology by immediately saying ‘I’m not sorry for loving you’. Bruh. I will say though that it’s great writing though. You could totally interpret Calypso as having a childlike infatuation with Odysseus, you could interpret her as manipulative with her using the words of his deceased loved ones in Love in Paradise (which she probably heard from Odysseus talking in his sleep), both interpretations fit with this song, especially when she goes on about being ‘angry and sad’ that Odysseus doesn’t reciprocate her feeling. You can take that as her having a tantrum or bring angry that her manipulations didn’t work.
Imma keep it real the hate for Calypso (although understandable at times) is a TAD bit over the top. Like you would think she's worse the Satan himself with all the hate she gets bro Poseidon literally killed almost his entire crew / was gonna kill Odysseus as well/ hunted him for 10 YEARS / And threatened to kill Ithaca, drown his wife, and gouge out his sons eyes. but everytime HE'S in the conversation all I see is "I'll get in the water daddy" LIKE WHAT!!!???!😰😰😡 I'm just saying, I (imo) think anyone with a working conscience would be able to have SOME level of sympathy for being trapped on an island for 100s of years by yourself, while not condoning that person's actions. But Idk maybe I'm the one tripping ig.
@@iamfokus she gets so much hate, because she is presented as sympathetic in the musical, while Posiedon literally gets his comupence in being tortured in this saga and gets two villain songs and is presented as a very awful guy. While calypso who trapped him on an island for 7 years and was forcing herself on him somehow is supposed to be sympathetic
@@iamfokus I'm not sure about the hate for Calypso being over the top (maybe I just saw too few of them ig) but I can only guess this might be like the Dolores effect? Like how Dolores is more hated than Voldemort because while Voldy is much more evil in the grand scheme of things, Dolores hurts the mc in a far more personal level, and I think this may be why Calypso is also hated like this, because her contribution to hurting Ody is more personal or intimate in a way. The only interpretation of Calypso I liked is the one in Rick Riordan's. She's awesome, Leo Valdez, you have a good one.
My god I love it😭 it's so cool, like when talanted people produce something fucking cool and then you discover that they are going to produce more😭 Like when you read 1 manga and you feel that the end is soon, and you are all sad cause it's over. And then author releases new crazy stuff
I honestly wish he makes it into a movie in a art style probably close to prince of egypt considering time zones so the clothing could also be historically accurate you know
Im pretty sure the vengance saga as a whole had 10 million streams in 2 days and 2 hours so i really hope we get a animated movie or animated series and that all the cast can voice the characters they do in the concept album
I've heard people say Poseidon's voice sounds melodic because it was music to Odysseus' ears. BUT FR STEVEN RODRIGUEZ DID SUCH A GOOD JOB WITH POSEIDON 🗣🗣
Also finding out one of my favorite Vtubers is a EPIC fan just makes it better Also Cy Yu if you like Hermes, the vocalist Troy Doherty makes music as well, just letting you know :D
I'm going to hold out hope that the next saga is Christmas maybe New Year's because then it would be not only awesome but incredibly poetic. As I heard it Epic began on a Christmas so to have Odie finally come home on a Christmas would be lovely
“I see you on the brink of death.” * Odysseus drowning.* “I see you draw your final breath.” * The last air bubbles leaving as darkness encompasses his vision.* “I see a man who gets to make it home alive, but it’s _no longer YOU.”_ * The glowing red eyes, just like the vision Tiresias showed him* “Odysseus” died. The monster lives on.
To answer the Question on length as of The Vengeance Saga ACCORDING TO ITUNES it is currently 2 HOURS and 1 MINUTE meaning the Ithaca Saga should put it around 2 and a half hours
One thing i noticed in the moments where Ody stabs Poseidon with his trident is that there are long pauses in between.Which makes me think that ody purposely waited for him to heal before he rips out the trident and then repeating …which is terrifying and so damn cold ..
I wouldn't say anyone is too late to this. It's the concept album. I'd say this is just the beginning! There are so many different directions this could go!
At 25:33 it’s fascinating that stage plays are brought up since there are fans who have come up with concepts with how this could work as a stage play. And they work really well.
I fully believe an animated movie would work way better then a stage play or something like that. Plus they have the animatics as almost as a Story board
I am happy that Ares had not only been concerned for Athena, but he also helped Odysseus with his Dark Quick Thought. Hence the eyes and Ody venting through all his experiences so vehemently. Althought its also possible it was just the 'power of friendship'.
@@gabietajo2707i wish this more overt cause if this is true it makes way more sense that he beat Poseidon. Like he still won a 1/1000 chance to win fight but like it makes way more sense than a random mortal got pissed off and soloed one of the big three in his own domain.
@@joshuafrazier3904Ares gave him the dogged tenacity as the God to be supporting and showing concern for Athena and decided to see that bloodshed she promised.
All the prophesies from "No Longer You"'s chourus have come true. -I see a song of past romance (Sirens singing and penelope impersonation) -I see the sacrifice of men (Scyla's 6 torches) -I see portails of betrayal and a brother's final stand (Mutiny) -I see you on the brink of death, I see you draw your final breath, I see a man that gets to make it homr alive but it's no longer you (this is the moment after the raft gets broken at the end of Get in the water and he goes full "Monster" changing completely in 600 strike) The Ithaca Saga will have the bridge the whole "palace covered in red" and "a man who is haunting" bits.
@@niles8576 yeaaahh, its a beautiful song but the "im stuck in the moments i thought that we had" makes me laugh, GIRL HE SAID HE WAS MARRIED AS SOON AS HE GOT IN YOUR ISLAND WHAT MOMENTS ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT????
OMg I just noticed, while listening to CyYu yap about the musicall, I was staring at Jorge's YT profile and omg he's been giving us a hint about the Vengeance Saga all along! The trident accompanied with blood?? Ody stabbing Poseidon with the trident in 6 hundred strike??
Well...Athena promised Ares bloodshed, and there's still more to come in the Ithaca Saga... [Spoilers] "Where is he? Where is he? Keep your heads down, he's aiming for the torches! Our Weapons! They're missing! He's using the darkness to hide his approaches. We're emptyhanded, up against an archer. Our only chance is to strike him in the darkness. We know these halls, the odds can't be tilted." "You think I don't know my own palace? I BUILT IT!!!"
This was one of my most anticipated sagas cause of the dangerous song when i heard the snippet i was like i cant wait for it to realease and the last saga i cant wait for either
Calypso: "Why in the world won't you love me too?" CY: CUZ HE LOYAL 😂😂😂😂 Also jorge said he wrote the song when he was really going through some stuff and i feel like that's really reflected in how broken Calypso sounds, there's just so much pain and sorrow that's fully palpable between Jorges lyrics and composition, Miss Wangui's incredible vocals, Gigi's heart rending animatic, there's something about the song that's just so painful you can't not feel it. I think Jorges ability to really create a mood and cement it is incredible and part of what makes Epic as a whole such a successful piece of storytelling.
Remember everyone the moment he was underwater and you saw all his crew + his mother hint toward Ody died at that moment but the Monster is fully reborn as the Prophet said to him "No longer You but a Man with boy behind" Also before Hermes was thee he said "600 man death" hinted half or he aka past him already
I think after the Odyssey Jorge wanted to do some of the smaller stories that he hinted at during this one. Like with Circe and Scylla, kinda the story behind that? He mentioned it in one of his TikTok’s I believe 🧐🤔
charybdis is Poseidons daughter who was mutated into what we see her now that’s why Poseidon doesn’t go near Scylla because it brings up bad memories of how he lost his daughter or how his daughter was hurt and he couldn’t prevent it
what i personally think and want to happen is that, after the ithaca saga comes out jorge takes a break for a long time and the next time we hear from him he announces hes made his own movie studio and has hired all (if not majourity) of the artists he's comminsioned. its fully indie and hes able to make his vision come to life without any of the courprates getting involved :>
the hting i love about get in the water and 600 strike is he has said he is massively inspired by anime and video games and some songs have sort of showed it but these two specifically gave massive anime and video game vibes but still didnt take away from the musical itself
But seriously, Poseidon has ocean sized balls to call Odysseus the monster. I know gods were held up to different standards back then but still, Odysseus' kill count and ruthlessness is nothing when compared to Poseidon alone and one is called a god and the other a monster
Cy Yu getting so excited about Dangerous is me IRL. Rewatching this, when Poseidon pulls his final form video game bs I was looking at it and went "huh, that bitch looks like Darkside" then went "WAIT A MINUTE"
This saga is so good and a lot of the moments hit so hard, especially when hearing the whole musical beginning to end. That last line… just… *chefs kiss*
I’m still wondering if anyone saw what was happening between Odysseus and Poseidon cause like what if they were just taking a stroll along the coast and just saw water and shii
I swear Jorge will probably crank this out at rapid pace and once again surprise us all. He's a madman. I don't know how he does this at such a rapid pace. He cranked out Vengeance Saga in less than 3 months, that is INSANE!
my biggest issue with Jorge is that HE DOESN'T GIVE HIMSELF ENOUGH CREDIT. like he wrote it and is the most prominent voice yet he never gives himself any credit
Bros the most humble guy ever, I remember him asking if he should be the one voicing Ody or if he should cast someone else-
All the comments agreed that no way should anyone else voice Odysseus
Bro’s fangirling as if he didn’t write most of them I love him😭😭
@@AzziyaisalwaysonlineI didn't know that. Guy writes it of course he get to be Ody. He made this ship, he gets to command it.
Him and Lin Manuel Miranda have the same problem.
@@deathbykonami5487 Nah I can't imagine any other voice for main lead. Also it IS the concept album bro hasn't toured or anything.
fun fact: i heard someone say that poseidons screams were matching the song because they sounded melodic in odysseus ears.
The interval between each stab with the trident is the same interval between each swing of the club in Survive
Why would you people hurt me like this
Fun Fact: Poseidon’s screams and cries are in the Danger Motif
That pfp is giving me flashbacks
To summarize the replies: Jorge wanted us to understand that Ody reeeeally enjoyed hearing that bastard’s cries of agony
It was so nice of Poseidon that even when he was getting tortured to still harmonize with the song. 😊
The sirens are watching he’s locking in💀💀
I read someone say that the reason Poseidon's screams sounded so good was because its music to Ody's ears
@@Giveuponyourdreamsanddie2 goD DAMN
@@Giveuponyourdreamsanddie2 yo that goes so well with what my friend said "Odysseus wanted to hear Poseidon beg and plead just as he himself had too. Multiple times."
It's like his screams were music to Odysseus' ears or something?
"after everything you've done, how will you sleep tonight?"
"... next to my wife."
LET HIM COOK
He'll be cooking the suitors soon enough. Antinous is in for a rough time. 😎
@@skyephoenix801 But Antinous is being a cake for Telemachus's birthday.
(Check the parody song)
@@skyephoenix801"We know these halls! the odds can be tilted"
"You don't think I know my own palace? I BUILT IT!"
Something fun I noticed. The back ground vocals in “I’m not sorry for loving you” are Calypso and Odysseus and them only. Bc those are the only voices Calypso knows.
what about hermes though
FINALLY SOMEONE ELSE NOTICED
@@Wowimsick well up until hermes visited, at least. LOL
wait really? I thought the background vocals were the voices of odysseus' dead loved ones
I guess for the musical it made sense, but in the myth itself calypso was the child of atlas and has lived through the age of titans, so it doesn't make sense that he only ever knew about ody and hermes voice
Giving Poseidon a "God Move" called "Shatter the Ocean" is so anime, it's crazy. And the animatics completely up the anime feel, they did the same with that one Survive animatic when they animated Odysseus doing Captain Levi's signature spin move from AoT, or Neal Illustrator when they animated Zeus dropping a micro spirit bomb on Odysseus' ship for Thunder Bringer, and pretty all the insanity they animated for God Games (seriously Neal Illustrator's God Games Animatic is Goated, everyone should watch it.)
i agree! their work is incredible
Fr as someone raised on anime, the DBZ vibes from 600 strike GOT ME
It makes me wonder just how intense the Ithaca saga is gonna get given what I’ve heard from the King snippet
Jorge pretty much released all of "the challenge"(penelope's song) already, it was GUTWRENCHING, i will not be okay when it comes out officially
@@SolacedewAgreed the only thing I can say for sure is that the Suitors better start praying to every deity ever known cause no one will have the power to save them for what will come for them
Dude Anna Lea Casey is such an amazing singer that song is one of the best of all time I swear
I’m absolutely obsessed with The Challenge, I am so sorry for the person I will become when it releases. Every clip I hear of any Ithaca song is so good I am vibrating in excitement.
“King” seems to be named “Odysseus” now and apparently it’s gonna be the longest song in the musical
Poseidon: or what? You can’t kill me.
Odysseus: Exactly!
Morgan Freeman: and it was at that moment Poseidon knew- he fucked up.
“No wait…” ~ Brennan Lee Mulligan
"Sheeit" - I don't remember who
christmas is apparently jay’s favorite holiday, which is why it was released then in the first place. both the original Troy and the Storm sagas were released on Christmas, so that’s why everyone thinks it’ll come out then. although because of the recent passing of his cat, it might be pushed back slightly, which is totally fair.
minnie died??? oh damn, that's awful
RIP Minnie wini bobini the queeny
@@wonderlandian-geek his cat died?!?!
@ literally right after he announced the release date of the vengeance saga, yeah.
Wait his cat died? Yeah then it might get pushed back.
How dare youtube hide this from me for 3 minutes!???
RIGHT IT WAS AN HOUR FOR ME!
@@snackcake6133 SAME 😭
@danicrose9352 same 😢
Same😭@@snackcake6133
Try 60!!
6:59 Yup! Well technically, those are winions, Epic’s stand in for Aeolus’s children, and the lotus eaters are winions who ate the fruit
I can't *_WAIT_* for the animators to get a hold of the second half of Six Hundred Strike because I've *_SEEN_* what they've done with Different Beast, so seeing that being translated to Odysseus stabbing Poseidon is going to be absolute *_FIRE_*
I didn't notice it until someone on tiktok had pointed it out, but right before Poseidon uses his God Move when he is reprising Ruthlessness, you can hear the Cyclops' voice behind his and it is so cool to me!
That is actually insanely cool
can you give me the timestamp?
@@TIME-fe6ne 13:15 whenever he starts charging up his God Move, listen to when he says mercy upon and ourselves you can hear the cyclops voice with his
@@MikaylaP-iz1buRight! I had heard the difference voice but just assumed it was because he was powering up but didn't know it was his sons voice the cyclops
Wait- that was the CYCLOPS’ voice? I thought it was just a distorted backing vocal that’s used when a character goes monster mode.
“Next to my wife 👹”
DUDE that line left me shaking for like half an hour after
1:54 so a thing a buddy of mine and I noticed is that when Calypso originally sings her first song she doesn't have background singers like the other gods because she literally is alone on that island but the moment Hermes shows up she finally has those background singer she can call upon for this song and this song only.
The ocean saga came out Christmas Day, the circle saga came out February 13th the underworld came out April 26th. I wouldn’t be surprised if he dropped it New Year’s Day or in January
Circe saga came out on Valentine’s Day! February 14th. Jay loves his US holiday releases.
@@robbieg6838 the first version of the troy saga also came out on christmas before it had to be re-relased!! Its safe to say that ithaca drops either on christmas too or New years
Pfft- circle saga? (Not trying to be rude, just something about this typo cracks me up and I'm not sure why.)
It’s the Hermes saga.
@@DorBiTt it did it because it was his girlfriend (Tayla Sindel) who voiced Circe.
Never I thought, I would click a video that fast! Damn, I am an epic fan.
LMAO but same
samee XD
Same!
You're an epic fan, but are you a fan of epic?
@ yes. Are you a fan of the winions?
Jorge has said before that he wanted to do Troy too after he finishes Epic
YO THAT WOULD BE SO COOL 🔥🔥
OH MY GOSH YES!
....okay but the opening of Horse and the Infant repurposed for the start of the final song of a Troy musical tho???
@@matthewsimpson5529Yeah probably I bet the story is going to either be JUST the Troy saga and the preparations/fighting and arriving for war or a mixture of the cause of the war (i.e the Illiad) and the actual war
Petroculus and Achilles.....I'm ready for pain 🙂
I saw someone said the reason why Poseidon’s screams are so melodic is because its music to odysseus’s ears.. And also Poseidon’s screams and cries are the danger motif.. FUN FACTS!
As beautiful as Not Sorry for Loving You is as a song, I still hate Calypso regardless. I understand the whole loneliness aspect and that she clearly didn’t have any good examples of relationships before she was dumped on her island, no amount of nuance will make me feel sympathy for her. Even in this song she puts the blame and onus on Odysseus, ‘I’m sorry my love was too much for you’ and then not even committing to a half-assed apology by immediately saying ‘I’m not sorry for loving you’. Bruh.
I will say though that it’s great writing though. You could totally interpret Calypso as having a childlike infatuation with Odysseus, you could interpret her as manipulative with her using the words of his deceased loved ones in Love in Paradise (which she probably heard from Odysseus talking in his sleep), both interpretations fit with this song, especially when she goes on about being ‘angry and sad’ that Odysseus doesn’t reciprocate her feeling. You can take that as her having a tantrum or bring angry that her manipulations didn’t work.
Someone with an intelligent view on this song thank goodness
THANK YOU!!!! SOMEONE FINALLY SAYS IT
Imma keep it real the hate for Calypso (although understandable at times) is a TAD bit over the top. Like you would think she's worse the Satan himself with all the hate she gets bro
Poseidon literally killed almost his entire crew / was gonna kill Odysseus as well/ hunted him for 10 YEARS / And threatened to kill Ithaca, drown his wife, and gouge out his sons eyes. but everytime HE'S in the conversation all I see is "I'll get in the water daddy" LIKE WHAT!!!???!😰😰😡
I'm just saying, I (imo) think anyone with a working conscience would be able to have SOME level of sympathy for being trapped on an island for 100s of years by yourself, while not condoning that person's actions. But Idk maybe I'm the one tripping ig.
@@iamfokus she gets so much hate, because she is presented as sympathetic in the musical, while Posiedon literally gets his comupence in being tortured in this saga and gets two villain songs and is presented as a very awful guy. While calypso who trapped him on an island for 7 years and was forcing herself on him somehow is supposed to be sympathetic
@@iamfokus I'm not sure about the hate for Calypso being over the top (maybe I just saw too few of them ig) but I can only guess this might be like the Dolores effect?
Like how Dolores is more hated than Voldemort because while Voldy is much more evil in the grand scheme of things, Dolores hurts the mc in a far more personal level, and I think this may be why Calypso is also hated like this, because her contribution to hurting Ody is more personal or intimate in a way.
The only interpretation of Calypso I liked is the one in Rick Riordan's. She's awesome, Leo Valdez, you have a good one.
He is thinking of doing a Circe and Scylla side project. So that might be the next thing after Epic.
Wait really? I really wanna see more about Circe!!
@0NI0N_57 It'll revolve around her cursing Scylla. So, should be interesting.
My god I love it😭 it's so cool, like when talanted people produce something fucking cool and then you discover that they are going to produce more😭 Like when you read 1 manga and you feel that the end is soon, and you are all sad cause it's over. And then author releases new crazy stuff
I honestly wish he makes it into a movie in a art style probably close to prince of egypt considering time zones so the clothing could also be historically accurate you know
This!!! Exactly what I had in my head, too! This should be animated because that will work better with the supernatural elements imo.
Poseidon getting his shit rocked was so cathartic that I fell asleep the night vengeance saga came out with the stabbing part on loop 😊
Im pretty sure the vengance saga as a whole had 10 million streams in 2 days and 2 hours so i really hope we get a animated movie or animated series and that all the cast can voice the characters they do in the concept album
I've heard people say Poseidon's voice sounds melodic because it was music to Odysseus' ears.
BUT FR STEVEN RODRIGUEZ DID SUCH A GOOD JOB WITH POSEIDON 🗣🗣
Also finding out one of my favorite Vtubers is a EPIC fan just makes it better
Also Cy Yu if you like Hermes, the vocalist Troy Doherty makes music as well, just letting you know :D
I'm going to hold out hope that the next saga is Christmas maybe New Year's because then it would be not only awesome but incredibly poetic. As I heard it Epic began on a Christmas so to have Odie finally come home on a Christmas would be lovely
Jorge is such a nerd and we freaking love him for that :D
“I see you on the brink of death.”
* Odysseus drowning.*
“I see you draw your final breath.”
* The last air bubbles leaving as darkness encompasses his vision.*
“I see a man who gets to make it home alive, but it’s _no longer YOU.”_
* The glowing red eyes, just like the vision Tiresias showed him*
“Odysseus” died. The monster lives on.
OML
Wohooo another CyYu reaction to EPIC! Finally the Hermes saga :0
YESSSS
Hermes saga pt 2 (featuring Odysseus and Poseidon)
@@Azziyaisalwaysonline Important to give credits to the extras ofc
Its two hours and 30 minutes rn for the ENTIRE thing, i would know i streamed the musical and did a commission while doing it I LOVED IT SO MUCH.
I learned recently that hermes is odysseus’ great grandfather I only got curious because of the vengeance saga
yeah which is fun as it means for demi god hero standards he is probably up their in the most human
fun fact he did wrote another musical before epic called my heart says go
WHO IS READY TO BE WRECKED EMOTIONALLY?!.....I am...Lets freaking go!!
To answer the Question on length as of The Vengeance Saga ACCORDING TO ITUNES it is currently 2 HOURS and 1 MINUTE meaning the Ithaca Saga should put it around 2 and a half hours
One thing i noticed in the moments where Ody stabs Poseidon with his trident is that there are long pauses in between.Which makes me think that ody purposely waited for him to heal before he rips out the trident and then repeating …which is terrifying and so damn cold ..
I wouldn't say anyone is too late to this. It's the concept album. I'd say this is just the beginning! There are so many different directions this could go!
At 25:33 it’s fascinating that stage plays are brought up since there are fans who have come up with concepts with how this could work as a stage play. And they work really well.
I fully believe an animated movie would work way better then a stage play or something like that. Plus they have the animatics as almost as a Story board
both things would be cool
I am happy that Ares had not only been concerned for Athena, but he also helped Odysseus with his Dark Quick Thought. Hence the eyes and Ody venting through all his experiences so vehemently.
Althought its also possible it was just the 'power of friendship'.
I like to imagine Ares gave him magic steroids so its mostly Odysseus but the glowing eyes were Ares + Ody rage with a dash of the power of friendship
@@gabietajo2707i wish this more overt cause if this is true it makes way more sense that he beat Poseidon. Like he still won a 1/1000 chance to win fight but like it makes way more sense than a random mortal got pissed off and soloed one of the big three in his own domain.
@@joshuafrazier3904Ares gave him the dogged tenacity as the God to be supporting and showing concern for Athena and decided to see that bloodshed she promised.
@@gabietajo2707 God-Mortal Combo Attack: Roid Rage
Poseidon: I’ve been waiting for this moment…
Us: MY GUY HOW DO YOU THINK WE FEEL?!
This is actually Jorge's second musical. He actually created/co-created a musical called 'My hearts says Go', and it's listed on his spotify page.
Saw someone say on another video that the reason Poseidon's voice sound so melodic is because it's like music to Odysseus's ears.
It was in the 600 strike comment section!
I thought it was just due to jt being a musical
I love the idgaf on Odysseus’s face at 3:21
Lmao love that for him
All the prophesies from "No Longer You"'s chourus have come true.
-I see a song of past romance (Sirens singing and penelope impersonation)
-I see the sacrifice of men (Scyla's 6 torches)
-I see portails of betrayal and a brother's final stand (Mutiny)
-I see you on the brink of death, I see you draw your final breath, I see a man that gets to make it homr alive but it's no longer you (this is the moment after the raft gets broken at the end of Get in the water and he goes full "Monster" changing completely in 600 strike)
The Ithaca Saga will have the bridge the whole "palace covered in red" and "a man who is haunting" bits.
Literally the one reaction I’ve been waiting to see from you omg 😭💗🖤
The 1st song of this song made me cry, watching this again is about to me cry again
*hands tissues *
i honestly laughed so hard cos its just a youtuber apology. it makes calypso seem even worse then love in paradise
@@niles8576 lol this analogy made me laugh 😂 it's like "I'm sorry if my actions made you uncomfortable, but I have reasons why I did those"
Cry for a manipulative piece of shit? (and in the Odyssey, a rapist)
@@niles8576 yeaaahh, its a beautiful song but the "im stuck in the moments i thought that we had" makes me laugh, GIRL HE SAID HE WAS MARRIED AS SOON AS HE GOT IN YOUR ISLAND WHAT MOMENTS ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT????
Hermes dancing directly into the camera… Does that man know he’s in a musical? It would be very on brand for him ngl.
Both Apollo and Hermes know
This could just be the Anime Saga and I AM HERE FOR IT
Continuing that discussion from chat:
Cy as Hades!? 👀
That would be MIND-BLOWING!!!!
"How will you sleep at night"
"...next to Jimmy's mom"
I never thought Poseidon screaming in agony could sound so beautiful 🥹
OMg I just noticed, while listening to CyYu yap about the musicall, I was staring at Jorge's YT profile and omg he's been giving us a hint about the Vengeance Saga all along! The trident accompanied with blood?? Ody stabbing Poseidon with the trident in 6 hundred strike??
Well...Athena promised Ares bloodshed, and there's still more to come in the Ithaca Saga...
[Spoilers]
"Where is he? Where is he? Keep your heads down, he's aiming for the torches! Our Weapons! They're missing! He's using the darkness to hide his approaches. We're emptyhanded, up against an archer. Our only chance is to strike him in the darkness. We know these halls, the odds can't be tilted." "You think I don't know my own palace? I BUILT IT!!!"
“It’s been 10 years”
Yeah when Poseidon went after Odysseus but it’s been 20 years since he’s seen Telemachus who was a baby at the start
This was one of my most anticipated sagas cause of the dangerous song when i heard the snippet i was like i cant wait for it to realease and the last saga i cant wait for either
Jorge has said he also wants to turn it into an actual video game and I believe there’s an Indy dev working on one!
17:54 my exact reaction
Calypso: "Why in the world won't you love me too?"
CY: CUZ HE LOYAL 😂😂😂😂
Also jorge said he wrote the song when he was really going through some stuff and i feel like that's really reflected in how broken Calypso sounds, there's just so much pain and sorrow that's fully palpable between Jorges lyrics and composition, Miss Wangui's incredible vocals, Gigi's heart rending animatic, there's something about the song that's just so painful you can't not feel it. I think Jorges ability to really create a mood and cement it is incredible and part of what makes Epic as a whole such a successful piece of storytelling.
MY LIFE IS YOURS CYYU THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR PUTTING THIS HERE😫🙌🏾
Cy Yu you should really look into Troy (Hermes) and Steven Rodriguez (Poseidon) they both have some AMAZING original music
i thought i read from someone said that jay had said that he would like to make epic a animated show if that was possible.
Fun fact.
Someone on tik tok already made a Shadowpeach animatic (or smth) to THAT one scene from "600 Striker"
THE STABBY STAB SCENE??!?!
@gabietajo2707 the stabby stab scene
Remember everyone the moment he was underwater and you saw all his crew + his mother hint toward Ody died at that moment but the Monster is fully reborn as the Prophet said to him "No longer You but a Man with boy behind"
Also before Hermes was thee he said "600 man death" hinted half or he aka past him already
we are so not prepared for the ithaca saga....
So yall think he knows why chat was screaming watch the live stream now in the last one :P
7k views and 4k likes, that has to be one of the best view/like ratio on TH-cam I've seen
IM NOT STUPID I KNEW HOW I RECOGNIZED THAT VOICE!!!
I MISSED WATCHING UR VIDS
I think after the Odyssey Jorge wanted to do some of the smaller stories that he hinted at during this one. Like with Circe and Scylla, kinda the story behind that? He mentioned it in one of his TikTok’s I believe 🧐🤔
16:23 his reaction KILLED me
16:46 he hit us with the ":o"
And now Odysseus finally took his last breath, what returns to Ithica is now the monster
charybdis is Poseidons daughter who was mutated into what we see her now that’s why Poseidon doesn’t go near Scylla because it brings up bad memories of how he lost his daughter or how his daughter was hurt and he couldn’t prevent it
16:49 We all had the same reaction here just: 😦
what i personally think and want to happen is that, after the ithaca saga comes out jorge takes a break for a long time and the next time we hear from him he announces hes made his own movie studio and has hired all (if not majourity) of the artists he's comminsioned. its fully indie and hes able to make his vision come to life without any of the courprates getting involved :>
That would be the dream outcome!!
Fun fact poseidon's scream's where so musical is bc they where music to oddysseus ear's
So... anyone else find it intriguing that the audition clips for Hermes and Poseidon are this far into the musical?
Isn’t Penelope’s in the last saga? Pretty sure it’s challenge which is the first song of the last saga.
the hting i love about get in the water and 600 strike is he has said he is massively inspired by anime and video games and some songs have sort of showed it but these two specifically gave massive anime and video game vibes but still didnt take away from the musical itself
did you know he's dateing the voice of Circe, I think it's really funny.
Literally finished watching your other epic reactions and then saw this one come out!!!!!
YES. BEEN WAITING AND REFRESHING MY PAGE FOR THIS SPECIFIC VIDEO.
Not the one person in the chat during Not Sorry for Loving You that said
“WE LOVE YOU WANGUI. BITE THE CURB AND SUFFER CALYPSO”
But seriously, Poseidon has ocean sized balls to call Odysseus the monster. I know gods were held up to different standards back then but still, Odysseus' kill count and ruthlessness is nothing when compared to Poseidon alone and one is called a god and the other a monster
If you really thinks about it posydeon is just going to send tsunamies the second he reaches the castle
I like to imagine Poseidon harmonized with the song because Odysseus literally thinks his suffering is music to his ears
I don’t really like the jet pack interpretation of the windbag but I still have to give mad props to the animator
Cy Yu getting so excited about Dangerous is me IRL. Rewatching this, when Poseidon pulls his final form video game bs I was looking at it and went "huh, that bitch looks like Darkside" then went "WAIT A MINUTE"
This saga is so good and a lot of the moments hit so hard, especially when hearing the whole musical beginning to end. That last line… just… *chefs kiss*
Yippe the Vengeance Saga !!!!!!!
I’m still wondering if anyone saw what was happening between Odysseus and Poseidon cause like what if they were just taking a stroll along the coast and just saw water and shii
I love that there is silence after the "600 deaths" to symbolize that he has nobody there singing with him.
Yay! I love the art and seeing Hermes dancing without a care was amazing!
Cy Yu's "Huh" at 16:22 LMAO the genuine surprise 🤣
"how's Odysseus getting out of this one?"
"By becoming an anime himself"
*Jetpack noises*
Love the detail where he knock off the logs on the raft to make it smaller=faster
i know Odysseus winning against Poseidon basically plot armor but its was great tbh
I honestly think the only way to do epic the musical is an animated series. Maybe something like Hazbin
3:45 He’s a loyal man, you don’t see many of those 😭
I swear Jorge will probably crank this out at rapid pace and once again surprise us all. He's a madman. I don't know how he does this at such a rapid pace. He cranked out Vengeance Saga in less than 3 months, that is INSANE!
Cyyu didn't realize that it was called the Vengeance Saga not for Poseidon but for Odysseus!