I just realized... Each of our 5 main cast also reflect one of the creeds from Hunter the Reckoning. There are Entrepreneurial, Inquisitive, Martial, Faithful, and Big D is clearly an Underground type.
You are totally right and this is intentional! However, we still have a bit of a hard time deciding who is Underground and who is Faithful between Boy and D.
While making a character for our first proper hunter game I realized "wait a minute!" also@@alfabusamade a comment on mine aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa yey
Boy, zero hesitation, chugs absinthe. Horse talks to him about why drinking is bad and why he’ll need to be alert in the future…. Horse really is the best uncle
I love how markus interperates his stay in the stable as being forced by his father to watch over horse while big D sleeps in a cozy bed, while in reality it was Big D who wanted to sleep with horse and only went inside after being pestered for his own health by kitten.
@@AnimeManiacAndres Problem is whether Markus can handle the knowledge. He's been shown to be impulsive and not thinking things through. No amount of knowledge can help with a bad Wisdom score.
@@CountDVB Markus is a very proud man who thinks he is a hair more clever than he really is. As we saw in the pub he couldn't help but run his mouth off when he thought he was going to win...which came back to bite him. He hasn't shown he can handle such secrets and knowledge without having to show off he knows about it. That is going to get him in trouble. Big D has shown to love Markus, and because of that love and knowledge of his sons flaws he has to keep Markus in the dark about these things.
@@nickchavez720 He's clever, but not wise. Classic example of some smart, but with an ego and impulsive, not to mention not acknowleding his shortcomings. Dude doesn't wanna admit that and good grief, it's gonna bite him. Kitten may be the only person who will be able to tell him this that he will accept.
@@CountDVB yeah, knowledge won't save him from impulsivity, but it still would've prevented the disaster in chapter 2. how is not telling him about what happens vampires eat each other a good idea in any way? really, big D should have supervised the interrogation and not left it to people who barely even know what a vampire is.
That was actually not so much a surprise as it was in one of the mid video transitions, I think chapter 1's? Where they do the saxophone and have a blurb on the screen talking a bit about some of the characters. It said something about D sired many children but his openly favorite child was a horse named horse.
@@nicak777alex9 Horse is either predicting the down fall of the Yarmouth vampires, or the person that played the fiddle when the gang left the tunnels in chapter 1.
@@nicak777alex9 "His suet shall warm her gullet" is definitely something to do with the Regent of Great Yarmouth drinking Big D. Can't see any way to interpret it otherwise because the prophesy seems centered around his actions and those of his sons.
this is all the more terrifying in it's implications when you know that horses are physiologically incapable of vomiting. unless these guys didn't do their homework, Horse is not a horse.
Im gonna guess they did do their homework. Also, considering how much blood Horse has apparently vomited, he should have died of blood loss by this point presumably.
He also seems to be vomiting at specific times either to move the conversation along or change the topic So his brain being huge for a Horse is probably not an exaggeration
@@nicak777alex9 As someone who has worked with horses briefly and has relatives in the horse buisness, I can say that that's uncommon, but not unheard of.
@@ChadtronicFan It's pretty uncommon, I mean hell, MY horse prophesises about my death in the coming weeks aswell as screaming that his mortal form cages and limits his power!
Door asking Marckus if he's alright is legitimately shocking. That's a level of empathy I wouldn't have expected from any of them, and in the 40k setting probably would have been enough to outright stop the heresy from snowballing.
@@spottedslash4256 Honestly, Magnus was kind of already doomed. He didn't fall to chaos because he was underappreciated or needed reassurance, he fell because he was manipulated to hell and back by the literal god of manipulation and was spurned, repeatedly and violently, after fucking up hard. Magnus was pretty much doomed from the start. Mcarqckusk so far has been far luckier.
In this series the family is all much more human. Literally. They're not superhuman demi-gods on a constant crusade spanning several millennia. They're (mostly) just humans. Thier personalities have basically been translated into (mostly) normal human beings. It actually allows for more relatable character development, which is nice.
@@TheCandidPygmy I mean, they are still Hunters, meaning that they actually do superhuman powers. We actually saw Door use an edge (ward), in a very subtle way, and we might have seen Kitten use an edge or two as well, both in episode 3, and Marckus might have actually used a visionary edge in episode 1 with stake jacket, though that might have just been dumb luck (though admitedly, all visionary edges are like that). To top it off, Big D may very well be immortal, but its still ambiguous. By the standards of World of Darkness, they are at the bare minimum human adjacent in the same way most supernatural beings on, though they may sincerely about as human as the Kuei-Jin are (Hunters and Kuei-Jin have the same source of power incidentally, Old World of Darkness lore is *insane*) As of now, they're about as human as their 40k counterparts, the big difference is The Demperor is showing genuine affection to his sons.
I think there is a massive gap in between what the Emperor is and what Big D is (though he is clearly more than human), along with the lore adjacent sons. Yes, they are Hunters, hence the (mostly) qualifier. I mean... Horse is (mostly) a horse though. Likely the Russ equivalent (Russle perhaps?) will be a werewolf, but I digress. Comparing a hunter to a literal demigod whom has lived tens of thousands of years in near constant star spanning warfare is... Well the difference between the two physically, mentally, and even spiritually is so vast that by definition it eludes our comprehension. The Primarchs are basically minor gods. Hunters are human with awareness of the supernatural with a few lesser supernatural abilities. I think there is a little more going on there than some failures in parenting, which in my opinion, is more-or-less equivalent in its lacking if we're going by relative scale.
Also Door being so literal makes a lot of sense. While, yes, it's funny, we also get a sense that he's a very precise and logical person. Why? Well, he worked with explosives. That's not a place where one expects to have the luxury of idioms and imprecise measurements.
I just realized, Horse is basically this universe's equivalent of Horus. He's seemingly Big D's favorites "son", and everyone else seems to trust him implicitly, yet he's secretly in communion with dark forces.
I think is just the boy "awakening" as a hunter. It would makes sense since even inf WOD is quite an important topic (overall for hunters) it has never been talked about in this series
And had you noticed? During the Great Crusade, many of the primarch, loyal and traitor both, wore crimson catseye gems mounted in their armor. Horse has crimson, catlike eyes.
Whatever Horse's deal is, this episode makes it clear that he is family. Big D treats him like a son, one he has had some wacky adventures with and can confide in in ways he isn't sure he can with the others. Kitten deals with him like someone dealing with a sibling-in-law they don't know well but want to treat well. Markus treats him like a brother to get up to shenanigans with and include in uprisings, with genuine concern for his health. Door treats him the way he does Markus and has fond memories of listening to stories together. For Boy, he's Uncle Horse, albeit now he is a bit scared of him. For Horse himself, he acts the part of the bedbound family member, patiently listening, barely flinching at their barging in or raised voices. When he finds out that Boy can see images in his blood splatters, which he has possibly been trying to share the whole time, he speaks to him, trying to share what he knows. He even calls him nephew when he and Door leave. Why he stops talking when Door wakes could imply a lot of concentration is needed to communicate that way, or that because he could see the images when others only saw blood, Boy is who needs to be told.
good thing to piont out. its like he was trying to give warnings. also i think its clear why he stopped when door woke up and it might be related to why part of the prophecy might have the 'faeder' dead by boy's hand if its refering to door and not boy's biological father. Door is inhumanly hateful towards the supernatuarl. If horse's own supernatural aspects were exposed to him, door would try to kill him. And if horse actually does care for his siblings, horse wouldn't want to kill door, and would ahve to leave. and that is if he could even kill door with how much of a fuckign house that man is
Horse doesn't seem downright evil, he does acknowledge his position of 'uncle' for Boy at the end, the whole thing he speaks about sound like a warning more than a threat if I've read it right
It's a warning. He refers to boy as an oracle which is a powerful mage. The Abbot is a vampire or a ghoul in charge of preparing the priory for the Sabbat.
I have to say that Door’s voice actor really stepped it up a notch this episode. He’s always been good, but this episode he managed to maintain door’s dry characterization while putting real emotion behind his words. It’s really impressive.
Well yeah, but Door(n) has never really showed this kind of emotional range before. Mostly because his overly literal nature and hard headedness was played to almost Flanderized levels in TTS, where he had the emotional range of a turnip. The fact is, he's more human and emotional in this series and the actor does a good job of showing that.
When Kitten described the vampire as really popular, nice, and charming I thought to myself “Sounds like a Toreador”, then kitten practically confirmed it with the vampire yelling about the suit
I honestly thought Nagaraja, cause Kitten said he was eating her organs in addition to drinking the blood...then they mentioned the death by iron fence and I thought Kiasyd.
Im almost curious if it was a vampire. It may have possibly been a changeling and the iron gate impaling him killed it cause cold iron. Changeling can be as viscious and predatory as vampires if their durance promoted that, and the series has played with more than vampires. Doesn't change much but it would be neat.
@@Crouza Yeah my theory is a Changeling of some sort. Possibly a Ghast, a Thallain known for meticulous cannibalism using knives. (as opposed to Redcaps which would just eat them whole) While it's not impossible for an organvore vampire to be the culprit, it's an odd enough detail to be called out, and Nagaraja, the most notable organvores, are hella rare outside of the Middle East and South Asia. But it's weird that Kitten was able to kill it so easily, in part because they mentioned that the body just faded away upon landing on the fence. As is known, kindred bodies age to their proper state when they meet final death so that would imply a vampire old enough that the body fully disintegrated, or else it's still alive and escaped, which would raise questions on why Kitten survived such an obvious Masquerade breach that he knew the vampire's name. Changelings have far less stringent social control (since they can rely on their Fae Mien being hidden by Banality) so a changeling dying, especially one as unseelie as a Ghast, wouldn't be a huge cause for alarm. They're also not nearly as physically powerful as Vampires. (they can be strong, but generally would require cantrips or being a Troll) they're weak to cold iron, and banality can throw off a lot of weirdness when recalling details for Kitten. (Ghasts are notably very good at avoiding attention right up until the actual kill) Also Big D made the odd comment about it not actually being Davies but something wearing his skin. He knows enough about Vampires to know that you are fundamentally the same person before and after your embrace though, just undead, so it's an odd comment. Changelings by contrast are technically fae spirits melding with human souls in a human body, so it could be considered a more accurate description. The only big oddity is that Changelings typically leave a body behind. Once they're killed, all that's usually left is a perfectly ordinary corpse, but it could have been banality messing around with things again.
A quick guide to the terms used by Horse at the end there: Kine - Humans Kindred - Vampires Garou - Werewolves Milklings - Fae/Changelings Elohim - Angels (specifically fallen angels)
Alright, in light of Chapter 4, I'm gonna try and theorycraft given Horse's... everything. _"Of Two, One falls... One rises. Damnation. The Third Eye opens. His Suet will feed and warm her gullet."_ I propose there is *definitely* a werewolf in the room, and it's probably *either* Dr. Waters (has access, is auspiciously missing for much of this, and probably the only one who'd have any grudge against Fatigue,) or Matilda *Wilde,* (who would go unnoticed by most and was not accounted for during the attack.) This... may result in a character gaining explicit psychic powers? I doubt there's a Salubri involved. Still, I *believe* it to be Dr. Waters, the "of two" elders of the house alongside her potential victim, Fatigue. _"The _*_Patriarch,_*_ in mastering _*_Luna,_*_ ends hamstrung. He will wish death upon his flesh... but no mercy shall be given, for none he hath gave."_ I further (and more importantly) propose that Renold Blacklaw (the eldest direct family member among the Blacklaw clan, and thus Patriarch) is a Ghoul. Specifically a ghoul of Malkavian origin (Luna) and in doing so gained power over Dementation. Specifically the ability to heighten or deaden emotions in others, inflame passions or negate them, possibly more. He could have used these powers to warp the perceptions of his sons, allowing him time to slip away and strangle the very-nearby Occam. (Obfuscate would also be on option, but Dementation makes more thematic sense given his ability to rile up everyone around him with ludicrous power.) Further, it also fits with him wishing death upon his flesh (being Occam's uncle.) _"The rising 3 will signal wars end."_ This one could be for a future event, but would fit Marckus, Brok and possibly another (Kitten, likely?) putting an end to the family rivalry for the good of all. It'll come at great cost, probably Renold's death, but it'll be over with. _"From them, bloodshed. Armageddon for all. Kine, Kindred, Garou (Werewolves,) Milklings, (Changelings!), Elohim (ANGELS!). In the light, they all will-"_ ...And with Occam out of commission, Renold out of the picture, and D's loyalists back in the fold, a vengeful Chapter House will start going on a rampage utterly wrecking the *shit* out of supernatural threats and 'civilians' all over the place. This isn't absolute, lordy could this ever just be me spitting nonsense, but I feel *strongly* this was laying out the plot of how Chapter 4 went and the arc will go as a whole.
You got a heart man. So at the very least your theory crafting has been appreciated, even if some parts of it turn out to not be true. Regardless very well done. A truly titillating theory.
"This... may result in a character gaining explicit psychic powers?" In the pubbing audio log, Markus starts to show possible signs of pyschic capabilities as he SEEMINGLY begins to alter reality and probability during his confrontation with Brok. If anyone, I'd assume it would be him, and there's basis for it already.
@@KillerOrca Well I don't think that was markus most likely the funny ghoul constabulary that was watching the whole thing unfold before him and thus he used one of his diciplines to Idk break the mechanism? (Might be rambling nonsense cause Idk WoD lore)
I got so used to Kitten that I completely forgot about previous incarnations. Door calling him Captain went completely over my head until just now. I suppose that's a good thing, but I feel real dumb.
Neither did I. You need to watch shows like this multiple times over to catch all the small details. Hell, rewatching DBZA there are still small details I catch. Alfa and TFS prove that maybe corporations shouldn't have absolute control over IPs, maybe fans can understand the content better then even the original creators. I will standby TFS understood DBZ better then Toriyama himself. Let alone what Alfa did with 40k. I never thought I would get into WoD (I'm more of a sci-fi guy), but here I am digging into the lore.
What Joel says is very true! For example, in DBZA, Cell saying "OH SHIT!" to Vegeta's Final Flash is actually a reference to the German dub, where said exact thing happens.
Both kittens are so well written charqacters that are easy to not just see them as some kind of expo of one another. So I think is a big W for the writters
One thing I noticed is that Marckus assumed that Big-D just pawned the responsibility of taking care of Horse to them, while in reality Big-D was only willing to leave Horse after Kitten promised that he would take care of him instead.
Kitten's story is a textbook Imbuing, and given that the girl there probably slept in the dark, he sure did mention a lot of details, like coffee, creamer, and blood stains, his fangs, exactly what he had done to the body... Discern is the first Judgement Edge, and later Kitten pins Pyotr to the spot with an intense gaze, like the Burden Judgement Edge. Judge Kitty
Right. Kicks him very hard... y'know, through a window. Kicks _a brawling vampire through a window._ No small amount of luck or power in pulling that off.
Im sure this is intentional lore bits for us to nibble on, but this is also what being in a traumatic fight like that does to you. Some random details just become permanently seared into your memory along side random gaps you cant recall. Im interested to see how it developes!
@ilke kara he's a continuation of 40k Kitten, who was just affirmed as the best guy for Captain General. And he also is very much the most level headed of the group, only taking a backseat role due to Ds incredible knowledge and experience
@ilke kara and the hunters go insane slowly, and in specific ways. D is quite possibly over 100 years old, yet he only currently borders on truly unhinged. Kitten has only been doing this for less than 10 years or so, assuming he entered college right out of high school
I hope at one moment Big E falls from Horse and end up quadriplegic in a wheelchair and Markus loses and eye, I know recently the 40k references have been in decline and Htp has becomes it's own thing but I still really want a spoof of the Horus heresy.
I think the most shocking this about this is that no one has any resentment towards Horse, I was expecting everyone to roll their eyes at Big D's 'adoption' of Horse as a son but legit they just consider him a brother.
Marckus seemed to have a little bit of resentment, but it seemed it was more resentment towards D forcing the situation in the first place whilst providing inadequate care mixed with general frustration
@@Detahramet I'd say Marckus is mostly just bewildered at how utterly disproportionate Big D's treatment of Horse is compared to the one he gave to Marckus. He also states, later, that father's treatment is "not helping", implying he's concerned about absinthe actually being harmful (or simply not helpful) to Horse. And hey, while envious, he DID include Horse into his revolutionary plan and was willing to let his 'brother' reap the same benefits of commandeering Big D's room and aspirin.
@@Detahramet I think Marckus resents that he isn't the favorite. Horse is the favorite because he's the one that listens and doesn't judge... while Mackus often judges his father and well, basically had alot of Big-D's faults, except made worse by Marckus' own recklessness.
@@CountDVB Marckus is - unfortunately - very much like his father, only without the extensive experience to temper his worst traits. D knows this and is presumably trying to prevent Marckus from making the same mistakes he did in his own misbegotten youth. Or at least that's how I see it, because I picture a young and inexperienced D being very similar to how Marckus is now.
I may be reading too much into it but I like the implication that Door constantly declaring "Carmilla" is the first vampire might just be Door actively playing dumb and saying incorrect facts to make any potential vampire spies might over hear so they think they're less of a threat.
Possibly, but it's also possible that she really was the "first vampire" because the first 3 generations were not called vampires, but we're called "Antediluvians", a name that has been used for the first 3 generations in the past.
It could also be a writing based in-joke to some of the old Hunter books that had 'Carmilla' listed as the first vampire on the conspiracy board full of half right half/wrong conspiracy theories put together by one guy
Vampire lore started out as witch hunts in small transylvanian towns, specifically relating to the dead coming back to life, and accosting those who they had business with before they died. Thats where the staking thing comes from too. Numerous graves were defiled and the corpses impaled through the heart, as this would aupposedly stop them reqnimating at night. The whole thing was really rather comical, seeing as there were no real victims, just corpses suffering from the mass hysteria and drunken halucinations of the peasant folk this time.
Well you guys certainly did your homework on the whole world of darkness in the white wolf universe. The horse spoke of the Abby, the horse spoke of Gahanna, the horse spoke of the The Final Moon. It's funny that he actually covered all three end of the world scenarios in one rant. I'm not going to lie though I feel sorry for boy, anyone who hears one of these Legends completely in the white wolf universe is plague with nightmares of how it's going to happen, considering it's one of white wolves few infohazards in-game.
Well technically it got cut off before Horse could complete it; the rant wrapped them all up into one package but didn't finalize any of them once Door woke up.
@@jacobthurmond6210 so first off it'll help if they're spelled right; Gehenna is the vampire apocalypse, Where the first Vampire Caine will arise to consume all his childer, along with the 3rd generation of Vampires who founded the 13 clans. Kindred and mankind alike will drown in oceans of blood. The Final Moon is the werewolf apocalypse, Where Luna sacrifices herself to save Gaia and is shattered by a meteor called the Claw. All of the worshippers of the Wyrm, the primal force of destruction, then will rise up and make one last great battle against the Garou and their kinfolk. The Revelation of the Tenth Sphere is the mage apocalypse, and actually applies to the word as "the unveiling" - its when the last unknown Sphere of magic is revealed, showing the complete understanding of the universe to all Mages and which Awakens Mankind, turning us all into magi and destroying the force of unbelief which prevents mages from using their magic to its full potential.
What I appreciate about Big D, unlike his WH40k counterpart, is that you get the sense that he's a good father, despite his eccentricities. At the beginning, he starts off complaining about his kids and puts the onus on them for being ignorant. But once he calms down a bit, vents a little more, he starts to think about if it's wise to keep his kids and son-in-law in the dark. You get the sense that he's actually scared about losing them, and simply wants to do the thing that's best for them. Big D is old enough to be around when _speakeasies_ were a thing. He's _old_ In spite of that, he doesn't seem anymore jaded about the lives of his kids than any other parent. You may get the sense that a lot of his kids died, perhaps by his own blunders. Combined with seeing enemies everywhere, he must be - rightfully - paranoid about the lives of his children. I guess Horse's "purpose" is to serve as a sort of mediator for the family. Horse is there so the others can talk about their feelings and vent, as seen by Marckus and his father. Door and Marckus arguing like brothers is cute. EDIT (post watch): What the fuck _is_ horse!?
While it saddens me that TTS had to be cancelled, this entire series has done a FANTASTIC job at filling the hole that was left. Thank you guys so much for this amazing and funny content, you’re doing the emperors work!
@@Dimizar WoD/VtM lore tip. After you get a grip on the clans and whole vampire side of things, in the World of Darkness, READ CLANBOOK BAALI. Its in the Vampire: The Dark Ages line. Ignore V5's ridiculous cash grab lore books and total failure of a video game/TTRPG launch. Ignore almost all newer mentions of the Baali till your way more familiar with the huge scope of World of Darkness. Unfortunately, they turned an awesome clan into cringe, edge lord, baby eating, yawn vampires. Think old and new Star Wars, or any IP that has recently been resurrected, an ruined. Esp the new stuff. V20 (4th ed.) is as far as I would go, unless your into pronouns and that crowd. And don't bother with YT videos on it. They cant discuss the badass grimdark shit in any detail, or the get demonized.
He firmly believes he killed Harry Houdini, which would put him at around 90-100 years of age at LEAST (Houdini died in 1926), and his use of mina as a unit of measurement could imply he's as old as the Iron or Bronze Age (about 2500-3500 years ago).
He uses a really old measurement known as the Mina. It saw use in ancient Greece and other regions around the time of their typically defined relevance . The Emperor of Mankind was born in non-coastal Anatolia around the end of the Anatolian bronze age, so this incarnation being similarly ancient runs true to form.
@@korstmahler So what would that make Big D in the World of Darkness setting? If not a vampire himself, what other beings that are 'human'...but also...not? (I don't know how long werewolves live)
@@navilluscire2567 I think he's a form of mage(or as Kevin puts it a wizard lol), which would match his 40k psyker inspiration. He might also be a specific form created when a mage refuses to ascend and reincarnates instead(kind of like going NG+ with a bunch of buffs you learned in the previous run plus futuresight more or less) in the same theme as 40k's shaman reincarnation-fusion thing. There's a specific middle-eastern fellow in the WoD world on a mad crusade to do some things, but for the life of me I can't recall his name or what he's doing. He's a good candidate for being D though, but I don't even recall if said guy is actually a mage and not some other supernatural. Man gets around though so D's traveling is on brand. As for age, powerful mages can be around for a very long time. With how 'magic' 'works' they essentially reject reality and substitute their own, which is very Big D. A quote for example; "Microbial infections only affect evil people" - Big D, potentially altering his reality and ducking the resulting paradox because everyone just thinks he's crazy. Side thing: Kevin's not a mage by technicality, vampires lose that connection when created and the his group had to find other ways to gain their abilities.
We got alot of information about all the cast.: - Big D being legitmly concern about his methods and wondering if he should come clear with them. - Markus and Door being honest and brotherly. - Kitten past and that he has Siblings (wich are likely Pillarstodes and a Sister wich is curious) - Boi showing hes ridicolously strong (wich i was suspecting from him firing a high caliber revolver) and being able to chug Absinthe of all fucking things and being fine. - What the fuck is Horse?
For the prophecy part, for at I gather: -Boy is supernatural (kinfolk or a mage) -Boy will kill Door, maybe by mistake (with his new powers? Door is turned in a vampire and Boy has to kill him?), maybe protecting himself from Door (Door hates the supernatural, if his son is a Magi, would his love stay his hand?) -Markus and Boy may become mages but Markus will become a "fallen" mage (Markus in 40k is a psyker/wizard bound by the chaos gods, so it checks) -D will fight a garou (werewolf) and end up cripple (in the other audiolog, he shows how scared is he from werewolf and how his children are not ready, so he'll have to save them when encounter one of the Garou) -The abbot is the prince and will feed on someone? (maybe is the Sabbat leader that we see in the end of the first episode? Ape talked as if the Sabbat was a "cult" and wanted to be a priest) -D plans to break the Masquarade and the Veil to let the entire world know the supernatural but by doing this, he will provoke Gehena, the apokalypsis (he talked of this with Kevin and the consecuences of doing such thing, well, is pretty obvius)
When a garou changes the first time, they can't control their anger and strike at everything in range. So it's possible boy turns for the first time and goes ape mode, unintentionally killing door.
@@AimlessSavant that's not how werewolves work in WoD. You're born one, and can only be made one if you steal or are given the pelts of many of them. Hell, not even all werewolf kids can transform, it's still really rare for it to appear.
@@overscoresam948 Totally. You’re not considered a real adult until you’ve been traumatised by a talking horse with a Satanic voice only you can hear. And don’t even get me started on the vampires…
Seeing markus and DOOR treating each other with such care is honestly so heartwarming and the fact that despite the absolute absurdity of it they treat horse as family and even call him brother (even if it's a joke) makes me smile so much, I do wonder if we'll ever see other members of the family and their bonds
Ok, can we just take a moment to appreciate Marckus for a moment? He's able to drag himself quite a distance on shitty crutches alone with both of he's legs more or less crippled and show little in the way of pain. sure he's in pain but he's ether gotten so used to it over the years of he's fathers torments or just has that much individual resolve. Maybe D's relentless chicanery has been paying off more than Marckus himself realize?
Appreciate how much personality/characterization shines through even in how each family member comes and goes to the shed. - D walks through the rain with an absolutely RIDICULOUS swagger, sporting only a tiny colorful umbrella hat to protect against the weather. - Kitten, sensibly, travels like a normal person would through the rain, with a poncho and a regular-sized umbrella. - Marckus, too, wears a poncho, but, suffering as ever, has to literally drag his useless feet behind him as he hobbles along shitty improvised crutches. - Door, the Americanest of Americans, appears to have spent the entire day marching in the rain with no rain gear whatsoever, because he would never admit defeat against the foul British weather. - Boy, the doted-upon grandchild of the family, has a far better raincoat than his uncles and rain boots too, though the coat is far too large for his tiny frame.
Door presumably spent quite a few years in various American cities known for their rain during his time with the EOD boys. Whats a some piddly little British rain to a man of the force?
Sorry for the late reply but door jusy walking through the rain could have come from both army days lf drill training in rain and hunting animals on top of monsters, he's probably very used to or at least can handle the elements having to catch game in unideal scenarios
As an American who perfers rain (and snow to rain) and cloudy weather, I say this: Pansies! It's just water and wind. Dress to the weather and you'll be fine. A little cold won't hurt you... That said, I often wish to return to Iraq. I WILL climb that Ziggurat, one way, or another.
D obviously walks in the fashion of Dr. Livesey of a Soviet rendition of Treasure Island that recently was discovered and adored by Westerners. Adjacent music video is The Meme itself.
Kitten's Vampire encounter sounds like a Kindred of Clan Nagaraja -Nagaraja's bloodline curse is that they must eat flesh along with blood to survive and that it must also be fresh. -Their members are usually wealthy with criminal elements, the money lending could be a laundering scheme. -The encounter took place before the "Family Reunion" that formed the new Clan Hecata from the 10 descendants of the Cappadocian bloodlines which means they would still have the flesh curse.
Someone else suggested it was a "maeghar", a changeling that was embraced. And what they were doing was draining the body of its blood in containers. However it was also possible they had a "quirk", forcing them to eat the organs _or_ that their sire was of this clan and thus passed down the flesh-curse.
The Stereotype for the Nagaraja is homeless serial killer not wealthy Mafioso that's a hecata thing I'm pretty sure. But eating intestines is definitely Nagaraja. "Maeghar" just don't like skin, so flay their victims alive under sterile conditions sometimes. Unlikely.
@@Logamer-tn6db one that has plenty of knowledge of the vampire factions. That is pretty sensitive information for someone like horse to know. Is he a spy? Or someone whose there by coincidence.
Did he explain why? Either just because a 'holy shit thats a *****" some obscure monster thing, or breaking the 4th wall on stuff that shouldn't be known to characters in universe, or what?
@@jg2323 It says a lot about horse, narrows down what kind of supernatural he is … Demon or Far or something. It also explains a bit about Sir D, who could be any number of things but is almost assuredly not human. And is likely related by … well blood or something like that to Horse. It also says a lot about boy. He can hear Horse, and Horse calls him an Oracle. He likely has the gift of Prophecy and might well be a Magus.
What if the horse is horus, i mean if magnus of marcus and rogal dorn is door, horus could be horse. Plus big d says horse is his favorite son horus was the emperors favorite son
The trauma of kitten is so fucking well written. And brought to life by ThunderPsyker in such a well delivered way. Thank you for that. Sitting here with a glas of whiskey and just drinking your work in with that peaty scottish drink. What I am trying to say is: well done. And thank you for this moment in time.
Almost forgot that it was supposed to be funny, it felt reminiscent of like the time my dad fell a cliff while rock fishing, he's fine now but it's one of those things that stays in the back of your mind, it was delivered amazingly is what I am implying.
My theory for what happened to Kitten’s family is that after his encounter with the vampire student it was seen as a masquerade breach, and a blood hunt was whipped into action with Kitten as a target. Maybe he survived but his family wasn’t as lucky. Maybe that has something to do with why our cast of characters doesn’t ‘technically’ live there.
It was implied heavily that the “vampire” kitten encountered was not a vampire at all, in fact being a changeling. Reasons being: 1) it ate flesh instead of drinking blood. 2) It was specified to have died on an *iron* gate, iron being lethal to changelings. 3) Big D alluded to it when he told Kitten that it was “something else wearing [the student’s] skin”.
@@theturnc0at it was a Maeghar a changling that was embraced. The cainite was not eating the organs he was draining the blood into containers. Kitten probably didn’t realize what the cainite was doing. This is made clear by his hatred of feeding a weakness of the Maeghar. Iron also hurts Maeghar like it does to changlings due to their original nature.
@@MultiKbarry Damn that is an extremely weird and deep pull. I wonder if it could have been a Maeghar who has the flaw that requires a vampire to eat their target's organs in order to gain vitae. If so damn that was somebody just under the absolute worst combination of conditions possible for a vampire.
You are spitting some SERIOUS deep lore with Horse there, if it weren't for talking to Boy specifically, the European absinthe, being nightmare fuel that poofs when when Door wakes up, heck even the term "Milking" which has given me a good idea the breed of what Horse is, but damned if I can remember the specifics. For the first few minutes with D I thought he was just a normal happy go lucky magical creature but NO he had to be a walking-talking-ancient-eldritch-PTSD trip, who is also a loving uncle and dutiful son. Bravo!
Horse is the uncle that scares his nephew with stories of injuries received during his childhood shenanigans to make sure the kid doesn't make the same mistakes. He's not always listened to, though he probably should be.
So what is Horse? After some digging around I found that Milkling is a term for changelings but I know NOTHING about them so I'd be very happy if you could enlighten me on that
@@BenersantheBread I can tell you the flavor of nightmare Horse is, but the specifics not so much. It's more fun to find out from watching the story unfold, as I don't want to ruin it for others especially since I could be dreaming this all up. I can tell you that coughing up blood, may have less been horse was sick and more horse forcing himself to vomit blood as part of a magic ritual, which is why Boy saw the family and house in it, but that theory may all be bunk. 😜
I absolutely ADORE every audiolog. Not only is it easier to make, but they feel like the old radio shows I used to listen to as a kid. With some fun sight gags thrown in for good measure :)
Alternatively; considering this is a universe with vampires, werewolves, and actual magic, maybe the humours are in fact important and hes learned about it. Could also be both.
It's worth mentioning this is the only episode thus far where D mentions the four humours -> he does so in front Horse -> who is heavily implied to be Horus -> Horus and his astartes often make mention of the humours in the Horus Heresy novels
Plus in the last video he defaulted to describing the basement door's stopping power in minas, then metric and imperial. Minas are a unit of measurement that originated in ANCIENT SUMERIA and still used up to the Roman era. The dude is OLD.
so D is at least 500 years old to 6000 years old meaning if the idea of the deluge taking place in 2350 BC he could have seen the destruction of the first city and the 3rd generation doing their thing but he would have had to come into existence later then that if he hunted a methuselah (which are 4th to 5th generation vamps who have lived about a millennium) with his family possibly meaning that the deluge took place 5600 BC in this cannon
This series got me hooked. Audio dramas, animated series, all of it. Once again, you casually prove it was you and your teams genius that gave us the incredible work you present and it had very little to do with wh40k. The childish humour mixed with intellectual background, the dialoges, the character depths, everything is just.. mwah, chefs kiss. I honestly think it is a privilage to be able to watch your sheit free. Never change boys. You, crazy, brilliant bastards
The very same! Alfa and his group just have a way through their humor and writing of finding a way to make IPs that were otherwise hard to get into, easy to digest and understand thus making it more accessible to people and I only see that as a good thing.
....the idea of Karl The Deranged actually being good with a guitar and singing....is somehow both comforting and also more psychically damaging than that last bit of this audiolog another amazing one tho im glad you all wanted to make this story
Holy crap, just looked up how much Horse’s medicine cost, that’s literally almost a $1000!?!? Also the shock in Kittens voice that Horse gets actual shampoo is just gold! Also from the yowling is Kräkus some sort of were creature?
As someone who works with horses I can guarantee that when a horse fucks itself up, it is DETERMINED to fuck itself up. A gelding in a field got a thin rebar spike up his foot. I removed it and he was very grateful. He then got an ulcer in the wound. He had trouble eating as my boss feeds the horses on the fence with buckets. The other boys kept trying to nick some of his food because they knew he couldn’t kick their asses aswell. Then after a while when it was finally healed, BAM! Second ulcer. Best part is that he is a racehorse so his owner was pissed lol.
Krakus is probably....or yet most definitively a werewolf neighbor, some hunters make agreements with werewolves for protection since they have no problem with mortals.
Took me way to long, to realise what Hor(u)s(e) is a hint to :D Also I love how Karl seems to be this weird eldrich part of the gang, that always shows up for fucking weird cameos and voice actor work, but always stays in the backround and remains a side character. He also showed, that he still has the talent for animation in him, even though his work is rarely seen anymore. A wonderful episode as always, and although I am looking forward to the next animation project, that you already half-announced, I also wanna see more from this family and get to know their backround, secrets and new adventures :3
@@gandolfthegray3334 oh no, I was just talking about his name and standing and him being a reference to the warmaster from 40k. The stuff he was speaking about was probably related to something, that could happen in the future of the show. It was cryptic enough, so that it could have been reffering to lots of things from the world of darkness universe and I'm not well versed enough in the lore, to decipher it.
@@HellishSpoon Actually, I believe Kräkus (or however it is spelled) is a reference to the Krakus character from the TTS special where they played Warhammer Fantasy; Krakus was a dung-collector, and was being played by the Lord Commander of the Imperial Guard (the military old man of the High Lords).
I think this episode has my favorite Karl stinger. It has evolved so much beyond his usual jumpscare antics to showcase impressive musical talent, resistance to pine needles, while still being consistent with his grandma story, and his unsettling presence.
You know since boy was the only one who seemed to have some grasp of Oracle like abilities it makes me wonder if every time Horse spat up the blood, that was his way of trying to scream warnings of the future tragedies to come. If that’s the case then horse deserves several- NO a dozen sugar cubes for his loving heart.
@@bartu913 horus wasn't always evil he was a relatively nice dude at the start somehow his sons are dumb enough to left him to heal under the care of a witch(chaos) cult....
Let me be frank. I'll never not miss TTS. But! Holy shit Alfa you and the team are hitting it out of the ballpark with every upload. I can't stress that enough. You guys are the only patreon I subscribe to, because you guys put out gold every. Single. Time. Thank you so much for years of entertainment.
I believe Horse to be a form of Wyrm or a Wyrm servant, which are essentially the god/demon spirits of Garou, aka Werewolves. To be more specific I believe he is a beast bound Bane, a Fomor or Fomori. Fomor tend to have pretty hideous deformities but persist in spite of that, that may explain why Horse is evacuating literal gallons of blood but is still alive. A fomor being a piece of Wyrm or servant of Wyrm would also have greater knowledge of pretty much everything although wrapped in a sheet of insanity. Fomori are also specifically created by Pentex, another form of Wyrm Servant which specifically want the apocalypse to happen, which may explain why Horse seems to have knowledge of the impending apocalypse. Oracle is also a title related to Garou mythology. My earlier theory was that Big D was a Purified, something similar to a lich in some ways that exists in parallel with both the mortal realm and the spirit realm, I believe this unique existence has allowed him to essentially tame Horse as Purified tend to have a natural kinship with spirits. A Fomor is a lot like a Purified in some way, both are essentially loose spiritual entities bound to flesh which may further explain Big D's affection towards Horse, the kinship he feels is one born of similar circumstance. That may also explain the need to dose Horse with incredibly powerful medicine and alcohol, Big D may be trying to both stop Horse's physical form from naturally deteriorating while also trying to stop the encroaching madness a Wyrm servant would feel.
A purified is chronicles of darkness. Which is a separate universe/series from world of darkness. Horse being a tormented Elohim (basically demon/fallen angel) is more likely. D as a possible archmage might be trying to cure horse and can relate to him deeply as an equally powerful human, both powerful but risk paradox should he use his powers
There's a specific type of Fomori called an Aughisky, created when a Bane possesses a horse. They were used as mounts by Black Spiral Dancers during the medieval period.
I love the parts that are such big nods to the kind of sentiments that drove the Heresy. Everyone, even the Black Library authors, had thought they'd long picked and settled on sides to take on it, and these re-humanize the whole situation again. Fantastic work, revitalizing the field
I only just got the fact that Boy saw paintings of blood on the walls, showing the prophecy to none but himself and Horse. Which means that: A: Horse vomiting up blood like that must have been him trying to tell his family something B: That Boy has some kind of prophetic ability if the title of “Oracle” is anything to go by And C: that the only reason Horse spoke was because Boy *saw* the pictures where no one else could, but could not understand it. *”Fare thee well, mine nevew”* just melts my heart. Damn you, Alfabusa, you’ve made an eldritch horror that I am fully in love with.
In mage an oracle is a mage that refused ascension in order to teach other people magic arguably stronger than god and have high status in magic circles. Our boy is an oracle meaning that he is one of the top players in the world of darkness
@@nerdydude1.882 Oracle doesn't have to refer to the type of mage though. Horse could've simply said it as a term for someone who is able to see the future. Either way though, the fact that Boy can see the future in Horse's blood, can lift boar corpses that Door needed help doing, and has somehow survived on a pure meat diet along with strong alcohol at a young age, Boy is definitely NOT normal. My current theory is that Boy is a baby werewolf.
I hope Door secretly heard everything that Horse said to Boy as he reassures his poor son that everything is fine while telling Big D about The Prophecy.
YES! More characterization for everyone! Door's quickly becoming my favourite of the cast, with how he handled Pytor, consoled Markus, and is trying his best for Boy. And Karl's solo at the end was crazy good! Love you guys, love what you do, and what you're all doing here is nothing short of phenomenal!
10:53 Most people would have forgotten about that sound TVs and speakers would make when near old mobile phones sending and receiving calls and texts, what an absolutely insane level of attention to detail you guys have. Man that little beeping noise takes me back and makes me think that Door might be right at 20:58 someone might be listening, recording even. Maybe the old camera aesthetic might not just be a stylistic choice.
Honestly, in a way, i'm glad that you guys started in a new IP. I feel like the team took lessons learnt in TTS, an used those ideas and characters in a great way here. It fees almost like you have a new leas h on life; everything here feels so much more like it is your own vision of what you want for the characters and plot; no longer restricted by old ideas/the IP like (as much as i love it to death) parts of TTS felt like. Its refined, streamlined, elegant and I love it. I continue to wish you al the best of luck!
After all despite it being an established IP non of the characters are all blank slates though you can see the echoes of Warhammer with SIR D talking about what he should and should not tell his sons
@@raphsere yeah, but they've clearly had time to choose an IP. Paradox has quite a few IPs, as do other companies which are more liberaly with creative liscences. TTS has clearly had a lot of different interpretations, and the overarching narrative has probally gone through a couple of re-writes. Here it at least seems to me, that they've got a ckeae vision of what they want.
@@raw1175 That's what i mean; they now know what they want from these characters and it's super entertaining to watch the characters and voice actors go at it again.
I knew theyd have Horse talk and it would be the tts voice actor! Love the detail of him having "eyes of horus" when hes speaking. Wonder if any other primarch influenced sons of big D will show up?
After hearing what happened to Kitten… yeah it makes sense why he wants to learn more. And it’s really reassuring that Big D told his son in law any of this. Even if his terrible parenting is as bad as his choice of medicinal alcohol. Also FUCKING HORSE
that wasn't a vampire. i think it was an Unseelie Changeling of some description. it ate flesh and died on what was specifically stated to be an *iron* gate. Big-D obscured some of the truth but dropped a hint by saying it was something else "wearing his skin".
@@gvwwb6259 What, like a Redcap? He said Edwin Davis was well liked in campus, so maybe that's not it. Could be a Sidhe then. Honestly though, I still wouldn't rule out it being a Vampire. My immediate thought was a Nagaraja, but those are pretty easy to spot. Might have been a member of a different clan who just happened to have the Organovore and Stake Bait flaws.
@@jor4114Sidhe is the Thalain version of the redcap right? My money is on those unceilie bastards since they like to eat organs and aee usually depicted as being much more calm, cool, collected and psycopathicly cold too. So it fits the dudes description
Once again I must give high praise for ThunderPsyker as Kitten delivering an amazing story that felt gripping and traumatic, even for how short it was. Steller performance.
Using my own knowledge of World of Darkness lore I'll try to give my five cents on Horse's prophecy: "Doth thine eyes see it, Oracle": Boy might be the reincarnated soul of a Mage who refused final ascension as to help others achieve mastery over magic. Horse may be asking if Boy knows about the incoming prophecy. "Thine Faeder, laid bare. Dessicated on the rocks, by thy hand": Boy kills his dad. Could either be from Boy betraying Door or Door betraying Boy. "The Abbot will know": Assuming this refers to the local Camarilla Prince. This might also be some veiled command that the Abbot may know about the prophecy too. "Of Two, one falls. One Rises. Damnation. The Third Eye opens": This one is a doozy. "Of Two, one falls" could be Marckus or another member of the group being awakened to True Magic but having their Avatar reversed to become a Nephandi ("fallen" mages). The other one "rising", either Boy or someone else, goes the regular route for magic. ALTERNATIVELY the third eye refers to the Salubri, vampires with three eyes who were banished and vilified by the Tremere who took their place in the Camarilla. "His Suet (sweat? blood? suet like the fat of animals) will feed and warm her gullet": Even less sure. The Abbot (Prince) eats someone? "The Patriarch, in mastering Luna, ends hamstrung. He will wish death upon his flesh.": D, patriarch of the family, gets viciously crippled by a werewolf. Possibly becoming suicidal? Basically D is fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuucked. He may or may not die, due to the whole mercy thing. Like a less lavish version of the Golden Throne. "The rising three shall signal wars end. Woe and triumph.": No idea. If we go by the earlier Mage theory it might be that the three ascending mages in the family will end the big war that might spark due to the main family starting a whole load of shit. Or it is three vampires rising from the dead to start shit. Whatever it is, three people or things will rise and end a conflict. But it won't be pretty, woe and triumph. Some people lose, some people win. "From them, bloodshed. Armageddon for all:" It's not gonna be pretty. We're talking megapocalypse fuck you. Gehenna? End Times? Whoever wins is gonna have some bullshit to deal with. "Kine, Kindred, Garou, Milklings, Elohim": Humans, vampires, werewolves, faeries/changelings, demons. Big cast! "In the light they all will-": Interrupted sentence but it could refer to a complete breakdown of the Masquerade, Veil, and all the other attempts to hide the supernatural. Game over, man!
d will probably get over the crippling to some degree, knowing his madness..... but still... though at the same time D has on multiple cases now shown mercy. He has this weird plan of destroying the mascarade and making the supernatural a part of the normal world i guess? He spared kevin when he showed how human he still was. though at the same time is using Chapman and will likely use him to his death if need be, though he himself is beholden too much to his addictions. But the entire idea of destroying the msacarade and given clamency to vampires with the will to withstand their curse is in itself, mercy in a way? Its entirely possible that the ascension happens with three individuals rising in rank, each from every 'main' species. Mages, vampires, and the werewolves. MAybe turning into super versions of them. With boy though.... well he's adopted so its entirely possible door doesn't die and instead its refereing to his biological father? that or door's prejudice against the supernatural is so strong that not even love of his son can stop his hand. Might be part of why horse stopped his warning. he had to hide from..... Actually did horse make door sleep to not have to interact with him?
The Patriarch I would assume means Kaine. Once he has truly mastered his curses and blessings under the moon he will sick of the spreading of vampirism. Possibly he'll actually start heading down the path of redemption laid out to him in the Book of Nod? One step of that path may require the culling of his "flesh", all vampires after him. Possibly it'll also require a death without resistance, something Big-D may or may not be a happy executioner for...
Well that went from 0-100 real quick at the end. Wonderful audio log where we finally get to hear the other members of the family. I love how these 40k parody characters are brought into WOD and the writing that ties their characters together. A wonderful exploitation of the opportunity for unique story telling.
Absolutely love Big D actually having a moment of introspection and second guessing his own actions. Something that you would never see from the Emperor.
The fact Big D has a love for his horse is heartwarming. I miss my own horse dearly and he kinda reminds me of myself, talking to a big soft horse about problems of life
@@nadontcare9684 I have a feeling Door did overhear that conversation between Horse and Boy before deciding to play the ignorant guy waking up and comfort his son. Then warn Big D about Horse and the prophecy.
@@rexlumontad5644 actually lets face it, big d 100% knows his horse is some demon and likely fucked something that lead to the horse existing. we know he has a desire to end the war.
@@taddad2641 I mean his horse (if he is to be believed) is atleast old enough to remember the 1860s Big D may be strange, but I don`t think he doesn`t realise his horse isn`t normal
I like the weird myths and half-true stories sorrounding Horse; only adds to the living and ambiguous mythology of D. who does seem to genuinely treat Horse as a favourite child and son; one with whom at least, he can be open and vulnerable with. providing all the weirdness and secrets he obfuscates and hides from his children to protect them while being mad at their impulsiveness and ignorance of the power of those actions. Horse himself, seems to be something else, something great and old and strange. he calls out the names of many things within the World Of Darkness; Kine (humanity), Kindred (vampire), Garrou (Werewolves) and Milkings (Changlings & Fae). though Horse fails to mention Mummys, Mages, Demons and Wraiths; though that could be as a result of Door waking up and interrupting the conversation between himself and Nephew Boy. Maybe something great and old found its way into Horse and the 'illness' he is under is just him trying to use any method he has available to present the visions and horrors within the veiled future to someone. D did kill a methulsulah once upon a time, there are a few inferences that many of the methulsulahs achieved Galconda at one point and somehow the spirit of Lasombra endured and found home in Horse. Though considering visions and terrors and madness that Horse was foretelling it could easily also be Malkav or something else entirely. All of this truly, puts into question how old D actually is; his story with Horse was during the prohibition era (1920-1933) of the United States. Meaning D and Horse would have had to have been alive since the turn of the century or close to it to have been involved during the Prohibition era and drinking and dancing at Speakeasies. So, D either knows something to retain youth or his grip on reality is frighteningly as tight as it can be while being divorced from it as much as possible.
Elohim are Angels/Demons. As for D's age, it's a tossup still: he uses ancient measuring forms, somewhat doesn't like modern technology (PLASMA TELEVISIONS) yet also seems to be on top of his game if it relates at all with his trade as hunter. As for speakeasies, some areas are still under similar status as during prohibition, and might've used the word both to distract and because he might not know another word for it. Also, Horse might or might not be the "thing" in the cellar that Kevin wasn't told about. Or that thing got out while the Police searched the house. It seemed feral.
Humans can extend their lifespan indefinitely by drinking a vampire's blood. Using this method of life extension is considered insane by most hunters with too many risks. This sort of hypocritical heresy is exactly what the emperor of Mankind would do if he was a human in the world of darkness.
@@ghoul4748 but wouldn't that be a part of the blood bond and let the Vampire effect and manipulate their ghoul? And if D was extending his life by consuming vampire blood; considering his fits of clarity and madness, was he consuming Malkavian blood
@@samuelturner6919 If Horse is somehow a Ghoul of Malkav or something frighteningly similar and D is consuming Horseblood to extend his own life. The practise of hunting down vampires to consume their blood to extend your own life is actually common practise in one of the american hunting lodges I forgot their name, but it is not the long Vigil, it is another one. Basically they have the same cravings as ghouls, but instead of service to vampires they get their fix (and power) by hunting more and more vampires down, the oldest Lodge members beeing able to go for hundreds of years basically acting like ancient vampires who can only sustain their blood potency by feeding on vampires exclusively
@@degurkin That's an interesting point. so one would have to find ways arouund the corrupting or commanding presence formed from a blood bond/ghoulification. Because as Kevin has presented it; the bond can be a corrosive hand within oneself that erodes individuality easily.
I think the best thing about this cast, is that you can relate to each and every single one of them. You can relate to Big D's fear of sharing the secrets of the Vampire World, you can relate to Kitten being Kitten, a kind yet respectful person, you can relate to Marckus for feeling like Big D is being an asshole for not sharing the secrets or not telling them that they shouldn't let the Vamps diablerise each other. You can relate to Door for not being angry at Big D, because he understands the threat of the Vampire World. And you can even relate to some of the big bads, such as Kevin (technically) as he wanted more than his shitty accounting life, or Pytor for wanting more than what was given to him. I love it and will continue to love it. I get to learn about a grimdark universe, while having a good laugh.
Mostly relate to Marckus, to be honest. Big D withheld some important information, that could have saved them all a lot of pain. Can't really blame Marckus for being pissed off.
I wonder if Big D in the past was more open with the lore of the supernatural with his children and it got the Sanguinius counterpart turned into a Vampire
Big D keeping important info away from his sons “for their own good” (such as stuff about Diablerie) is a nice echo of [copyrighted character] not telling his sons about Chaos
But unlike then this makes sense. If word gets out about what they know they would be hunted by every vampire in the area and depending on how much pull the vamps have could get straight up bombed and put ob international terrorist lists. I assume D already is in some way
”Lack of fins”, Door they are in the lakes which are contained with in said land area. Also good on you for using the native name. I am just surprised that Finns haven’t flocked to this video. We usually do when the country is even passingly mentioned. Regardless great work as always you glorious svensk and team.
I'm guessing Big-D knows about SCARY EQUUS SEITHR VOICE and that's why the absinthe is there. Also, the fact that Boy chugs it was a bombshell. He's eleven and drinks hard alcohol. He also killed a sadistic bloodthirsty monster that came withing a half inch of butchering his father and entire family. This family is not okay.
Boy stated that he loved ayahuaska back in the end of Episode 1 (implying he was no stranger to it - and lemme remind you, ayahuaska is a PSYCHEDELIC), and Door casually talks about how stiff drinks are only verboten before bedtime. Let's also not forget, Boy downed an entire remaining bottle of absinthe in five gulps, like it was water, and then remained standing. He only was a little bit slurring, but otherwise rather coherent. Oh, and he has enough strength and endurance in his body to carry enough boar corpses that Door had trouble counting them. Even if he carried them one by one, boars are HEAVY. This family is definitely not okay, sure, but Boy is absolutely positively BUILT DIFFERENT.
Horse has got to be a spirit of some sort. Big-D's "Agreement" of showering Horse with worldly possessions and Physical Affection in exchange for listening to Big-D ramble reeks of a Spirit Pact. Given that everyone seems to believe/treat Horse like family, and Horse regards Boy as his Nephew also screams of the Spirits peculiar nature; where belief defines their existence. Big-D even mentions that Horse has experienced an episode similar to this with the phrase "like last time", implying that the vomiting of blood may even be somewhat normal; or Horse's attempt to communicate some oncoming tragedy through means that only an "Oracle" could interpret. ...Or maybe I'm reading into it too much. Granted, I wouldn't put it past Alfabusa and crew to drop numerous hints as to the story's direction. Disguising foreshadowing as satirical ramblings seems to be a creative skill of Alfabusa and crew.
I think it’s another name tie in with 40k where many of the characters are brought in or inspired by, Kevin Malcolm=malcador, Door= Dorn, Horse=Horus. The emperors favorite son who he destroyed, makes sense he wouldn’t have a body of his own so he’s a horse
The pacing is stupidly good, and the casual mass dumping of incredible character development and foreshadowing in a stupidly natural and amazing way is legitimately one of the tightest and best written stories I have ever seen.
I am always taken back by how well they handle info dumping in this series. They tell SO MUCH about WoD and about personal details about the characters while not feeling like an exposition dump. Like the audiologs for Kitten at breakfast. How do you talk about vampires and werewolves and such without feeling like you set a classroom lecture? Tie them into actual folklore for compare contrast to illustrate the points. I'm still geeking out a bit from a writers perspective about how good an idea that is.
@@jg2323 I know, but being able to trade through the characters, give a logical place for them to dump their emotions and inner feelings, foreshadow, and highlight their characters and conflicts in a single spot is insane.
SpeakerD is able to pull of some of the most comical yet genuinely intense voices for Big-D. Just, wow. The right balance of lunatic and actually quite insightful. That takes talent.
I'm an long-time fan, and one of the single best jokes I've seen on this channel yet is that Door needs Markus's help counting the boars due to never learning to count in the Finnish math class. It's written and delivered with perfect dryness. I'm loving this series.
Bruva Alfabusa, the work of the team you're apart of cannot have it's praises sung any higher, for fear of deafening the heavens! Thank you, for the marvelous pieces of craftsmanship that you and the efforts of your colleagues have created. The world would be far more boring, otherwise.
the more we see of Door the more I can't help but finding myself loving and respecting him. He's Stern and Strict, Straightforward; Yet he's also Humble, Honorable and Honest. He's not the type of person you want to emulate, but we could all learn a thing or two from this Stoick Soldier.
He appreciates the simple and beautiful things in life, the smell of the wet forest and the majesty of a possible rainbow to come the next morn. he's a good sort. It's a pity those don't last very long...
I actually interpret him as Konrad Curze with all the aesthetic signifiers of Horus. He fits Konrad a lot better what with being a sickly prophet with a monstrous alter-ego.
Maybe remember that this is a different series, in a different universe. TTS didn't wasn't exactly dead set on being serious about 40k's story and I don't think this series is aiming to be a recreate the 40k story in wod. The characters are informed from tts and we love them, but i think trying to put the horus heresy in this story would be one of the worst decisions they could make. It's a different universe and they'd have to set it up perfectly for it to make any sense at all
What’s sad is that unlike the Warp in 40K where Magnus and his brothers could’ve at the very least be made aware of its existence without major consequence(except probably Lorgar), Sir D can’t tell his family details about vampires without putting them in immense danger out of fear of Masquerade violations. Unlike warp entities, vampires thrive on remaining unknown to the mortal world. Sir D can’t explain why because explaining the Masquerade would in and of itself be a Masquerade violation. When not a vampire, knowledge is your most powerful tool against them. And it marks you for death.
I mean, Big D already described how horrible it is to try and face a true wizard- it could be that one of his sons, in a failed attempt to slay a mage, was turned into a horse. Also Krakus is totally a werewolf.
I got so immersed in this slice of this world I completly forgot time and my worries, great job! Highlights are definitly Kittens story about his first vampire encounter and the dialoque between Door and Marckus, they've grown to so much more than just TTS copies. But the other characters could shine too, excellent writing Blessed. Not to mention the voice acting breathing so much live into the less animated parts, special thanks goes out to TunderSpyker and Zegram.
4:08 - why is nobody talking about the "children who have NOT betrayed me" line? The parallels to Big D's old throne-bound self and his children are obvious but I'm really curious how you're going to expand on this. 25:57 - so Kitten has four siblings... including three brothers... ...HTP Pillarstodes when?
And a sister, which makes me think the Daemonifuge is going to be making an appearance to question Kitten about whether he has finally begun to pursue THE PATH OF THE SWOLE
@@Spartanoffaith @MrInsecure Huh, my initial thought was a Rule 63'd Santodes - just look at these magnificent golden locks! But it's likely that Alfa will surprise us and none of our guesses will be right.
Sorry, one day late with this one due to, once again, OH BOY, technical difficulties.
Is it Going to be out today?
What did Boy do?
It’s ok but I have a question did they ever get to ride THE MINIATURE STEAM LOCOMOTIVE!?!?
I'm waiting for the half life vid
You could be a month late and I wouldn't mind.
I just realized... Each of our 5 main cast also reflect one of the creeds from Hunter the Reckoning.
There are Entrepreneurial, Inquisitive, Martial, Faithful, and Big D is clearly an Underground type.
You are totally right and this is intentional!
However, we still have a bit of a hard time deciding who is Underground and who is Faithful between Boy and D.
While making a character for our first proper hunter game I realized "wait a minute!"
also@@alfabusamade a comment on mine aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa yey
Ay hope the campaign is fun!!!
Wisgh I could run a proper one some day.
@@alfabusa holy shit so that's just confirmed now?
Thanks to your comment i was able to find out about an old ps2 game of hunter. I forgot it existed thanks.
Kitten: Implies he has 3 brothers.
*Oh no.*
*Ay ay ay ayeeeee*
I'm terrified to see them appear in this show. 😱😱😱
ABS ABS ABS ABS ABS
and 1 sister
She's silent, tho. @@therealaubergineman9914
Boy, zero hesitation, chugs absinthe.
Horse talks to him about why drinking is bad and why he’ll need to be alert in the future…. Horse really is the best uncle
He is the greatest Hourse Uncle
If only he didn't sound like a the purest nightmare
I love how markus interperates his stay in the stable as being forced by his father to watch over horse while big D sleeps in a cozy bed, while in reality it was Big D who wanted to sleep with horse and only went inside after being pestered for his own health by kitten.
Yeah Markus is deeply frustrated by not being told by his deeply knowledgeable father about info that could have prevented his and others suffering.
@@AnimeManiacAndres Problem is whether Markus can handle the knowledge. He's been shown to be impulsive and not thinking things through. No amount of knowledge can help with a bad Wisdom score.
@@CountDVB Markus is a very proud man who thinks he is a hair more clever than he really is. As we saw in the pub he couldn't help but run his mouth off when he thought he was going to win...which came back to bite him. He hasn't shown he can handle such secrets and knowledge without having to show off he knows about it. That is going to get him in trouble. Big D has shown to love Markus, and because of that love and knowledge of his sons flaws he has to keep Markus in the dark about these things.
@@nickchavez720 He's clever, but not wise. Classic example of some smart, but with an ego and impulsive, not to mention not acknowleding his shortcomings. Dude doesn't wanna admit that and good grief, it's gonna bite him. Kitten may be the only person who will be able to tell him this that he will accept.
@@CountDVB yeah, knowledge won't save him from impulsivity, but it still would've prevented the disaster in chapter 2. how is not telling him about what happens vampires eat each other a good idea in any way? really, big D should have supervised the interrogation and not left it to people who barely even know what a vampire is.
OH GOD HORSE IS GOING TO CRIPPLE BIG E AND MAKE HIM SIT ON THE GOBLIN THRONE NOOOOOU
*G O B L I N E M P E R O R*
goblin emperor indeed
OH GOD HORSE IS 1 LETTER AWAY FROM HORUS
@@GrandGoblin Magnus Marckus was plotting a revolt with him
I think not. There is one big difference between WH40k and here. Big-D has Son to help him.
Krakus: [ *Alarming howl* ]
“Was that Krakus?”
I love how they aren’t even remotely alarmed by the sounds anymore. Just mildly annoyed.
to be fair, it's Krakus
There he goes
Screaming from the ditch again
Meanwhile Big D: SIR KRAKUS! PLEASE BE QUIET! I'M TALKING TO MY HORSE!
yes, thats what neighbours are all about
Krakus is clearly some horrific Karl the Deranged creature
Somehow, Horse being an actual horse was the LAST thing I was expecting.
That was actually not so much a surprise as it was in one of the mid video transitions, I think chapter 1's? Where they do the saxophone and have a blurb on the screen talking a bit about some of the characters. It said something about D sired many children but his openly favorite child was a horse named horse.
@@jg2323 Speaking of which, has someone made reason of what his prophecy means ?
@@nicak777alex9 Horse is either predicting the down fall of the Yarmouth vampires, or the person that played the fiddle when the gang left the tunnels in chapter 1.
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"His suet shall warm her gullet" is definitely something to do with the Regent of Great Yarmouth drinking Big D. Can't see any way to interpret it otherwise because the prophesy seems centered around his actions and those of his sons.
@@DISTurbedwaffle918 “thine father laid bare upon the rocks, desiccated” maybe it’s referring to door
this is all the more terrifying in it's implications when you know that horses are physiologically incapable of vomiting.
unless these guys didn't do their homework, Horse is not a horse.
Im gonna guess they did do their homework. Also, considering how much blood Horse has apparently vomited, he should have died of blood loss by this point presumably.
He also seems to be vomiting at specific times either to move the conversation along or change the topic
So his brain being huge for a Horse is probably not an exaggeration
You mean real horses dont talk about horrible blood prophecies about the end of times and the judgement of demons beasts and Angels?
@@nicak777alex9 As someone who has worked with horses briefly and has relatives in the horse buisness, I can say that that's uncommon, but not unheard of.
@@ChadtronicFan It's pretty uncommon, I mean hell, MY horse prophesises about my death in the coming weeks aswell as screaming that his mortal form cages and limits his power!
Marckus: “remember our math class in finland?”
Door: “I only remember the lack of fins in that accursed land…”
i fucking love the humor in this series
Door expected Finns to have fins?
@@patrik9328 I mean... why's it called Finland if not for fins?
@@stankobarabata2406 Everwhere else: "Finland."
Finns: "Suomi."
@@stankobarabata2406 some say its name comes from "fin land" meaning "fine land" in swedish.
@@the_emperor_of_mankind Dammit... I hoped it would contain more fins. It would be funny to me.
Door asking Marckus if he's alright is legitimately shocking. That's a level of empathy I wouldn't have expected from any of them, and in the 40k setting probably would have been enough to outright stop the heresy from snowballing.
"Markus" Needed to hear this. He may have hesitated from the Whole Herasy.
@@spottedslash4256 Honestly, Magnus was kind of already doomed. He didn't fall to chaos because he was underappreciated or needed reassurance, he fell because he was manipulated to hell and back by the literal god of manipulation and was spurned, repeatedly and violently, after fucking up hard. Magnus was pretty much doomed from the start.
Mcarqckusk so far has been far luckier.
In this series the family is all much more human. Literally. They're not superhuman demi-gods on a constant crusade spanning several millennia.
They're (mostly) just humans. Thier personalities have basically been translated into (mostly) normal human beings. It actually allows for more relatable character development, which is nice.
@@TheCandidPygmy I mean, they are still Hunters, meaning that they actually do superhuman powers. We actually saw Door use an edge (ward), in a very subtle way, and we might have seen Kitten use an edge or two as well, both in episode 3, and Marckus might have actually used a visionary edge in episode 1 with stake jacket, though that might have just been dumb luck (though admitedly, all visionary edges are like that). To top it off, Big D may very well be immortal, but its still ambiguous.
By the standards of World of Darkness, they are at the bare minimum human adjacent in the same way most supernatural beings on, though they may sincerely about as human as the Kuei-Jin are (Hunters and Kuei-Jin have the same source of power incidentally, Old World of Darkness lore is *insane*)
As of now, they're about as human as their 40k counterparts, the big difference is The Demperor is showing genuine affection to his sons.
I think there is a massive gap in between what the Emperor is and what Big D is (though he is clearly more than human), along with the lore adjacent sons.
Yes, they are Hunters, hence the (mostly) qualifier. I mean... Horse is (mostly) a horse though. Likely the Russ equivalent (Russle perhaps?) will be a werewolf, but I digress.
Comparing a hunter to a literal demigod whom has lived tens of thousands of years in near constant star spanning warfare is... Well the difference between the two physically, mentally, and even spiritually is so vast that by definition it eludes our comprehension. The Primarchs are basically minor gods.
Hunters are human with awareness of the supernatural with a few lesser supernatural abilities. I think there is a little more going on there than some failures in parenting, which in my opinion, is more-or-less equivalent in its lacking if we're going by relative scale.
Also Door being so literal makes a lot of sense. While, yes, it's funny, we also get a sense that he's a very precise and logical person. Why? Well, he worked with explosives. That's not a place where one expects to have the luxury of idioms and imprecise measurements.
Also, the fact that he named his son “Boy”
I know it’s a leftover from TTS, but it’s fitting nonetheless
Eh the EoD tech I knew was an *extremely* carefree person, also one of the most grim senses of humor I have met.
@@barnebyoconnell8176 well, that seems like a very impressive way to keep sanity, also that makes a terrifying lot of sense given their profession.
The former EOD techs I knew were very perfectly average dudes. Only... knowledgeable. Very, very knowledgeable.
@@antoine8649 Either you succeed and you don't die, or you die and it's not your problem anymore.
I just realized, Horse is basically this universe's equivalent of Horus. He's seemingly Big D's favorites "son", and everyone else seems to trust him implicitly, yet he's secretly in communion with dark forces.
Horse heresy
I think its the opposite. He talked AFTER Boy saw the massage in the blood. Horu- I mean horse is trying to WARN his family. Kinda wholesome.
@@brokenvow8700 whore's hearsay
I think is just the boy "awakening" as a hunter. It would makes sense since even inf WOD is quite an important topic (overall for hunters) it has never been talked about in this series
And had you noticed? During the Great Crusade, many of the primarch, loyal and traitor both, wore crimson catseye gems mounted in their armor.
Horse has crimson, catlike eyes.
I think it's implied Horse spoke English only because Boy said he couldn't understand what he was saying. That's honestly awesome
he's a good horse
his brain is humongous
Well that and also the fact that only Boy realized that all the blood that Horse coughed out formed a picture of prophecy considering their family
Whatever Horse's deal is, this episode makes it clear that he is family.
Big D treats him like a son, one he has had some wacky adventures with and can confide in in ways he isn't sure he can with the others.
Kitten deals with him like someone dealing with a sibling-in-law they don't know well but want to treat well.
Markus treats him like a brother to get up to shenanigans with and include in uprisings, with genuine concern for his health.
Door treats him the way he does Markus and has fond memories of listening to stories together.
For Boy, he's Uncle Horse, albeit now he is a bit scared of him.
For Horse himself, he acts the part of the bedbound family member, patiently listening, barely flinching at their barging in or raised voices. When he finds out that Boy can see images in his blood splatters, which he has possibly been trying to share the whole time, he speaks to him, trying to share what he knows. He even calls him nephew when he and Door leave.
Why he stops talking when Door wakes could imply a lot of concentration is needed to communicate that way, or that because he could see the images when others only saw blood, Boy is who needs to be told.
Thank you for this, because holy shit I’m still reeling from Horse *talking*
_Uncle Horus was turned into a Horse._
@@JamisonthaBRO15 And the Horse is transforming into something... horrifying before immediately reverting back when Door wakes up
@@rexlumontad5644 taking on his true form i think.
good thing to piont out. its like he was trying to give warnings.
also i think its clear why he stopped when door woke up and it might be related to why part of the prophecy might have the 'faeder' dead by boy's hand if its refering to door and not boy's biological father.
Door is inhumanly hateful towards the supernatuarl. If horse's own supernatural aspects were exposed to him, door would try to kill him. And if horse actually does care for his siblings, horse wouldn't want to kill door, and would ahve to leave. and that is if he could even kill door with how much of a fuckign house that man is
Horse doesn't seem downright evil, he does acknowledge his position of 'uncle' for Boy at the end, the whole thing he speaks about sound like a warning more than a threat if I've read it right
Didn’t he technically wish damnation and Armageddon to all of creation?
It's a warning. He refers to boy as an oracle which is a powerful mage.
The Abbot is a vampire or a ghoul in charge of preparing the priory for the Sabbat.
@@psychicmane7636 not wishing it but warning of it.
@@darthseal5936 fun fact- an Abbot is also a kind of Monk. Seems important seeing as....The Monk
I'd be worried about a horse heresy
I have to say that Door’s voice actor really stepped it up a notch this episode. He’s always been good, but this episode he managed to maintain door’s dry characterization while putting real emotion behind his words. It’s really impressive.
pretty sure the voice actor still has it, from being..... rogal dorn
Well yeah, but Door(n) has never really showed this kind of emotional range before. Mostly because his overly literal nature and hard headedness was played to almost Flanderized levels in TTS, where he had the emotional range of a turnip.
The fact is, he's more human and emotional in this series and the actor does a good job of showing that.
The fact that the horse refers to Boy as "Nevew" is both wholesome and dreadfully terrifying.
What's a nevew?
@@deadrixhanon1776 Horse meant nephew when he said nevew I think.
@@jjgo8762 Yeah, like it’s old timey speak I think
I really hope it’s not what I think it means
@waterbears9874 what do you think it means?
When Kitten described the vampire as really popular, nice, and charming I thought to myself “Sounds like a Toreador”, then kitten practically confirmed it with the vampire yelling about the suit
I honestly thought Nagaraja, cause Kitten said he was eating her organs in addition to drinking the blood...then they mentioned the death by iron fence and I thought Kiasyd.
Thought it was ventrue, figured they were a stuffy blue blood but that makes more sense
To be honest it could have been a vampire with the flaws forcing them to eat organs and a flaw to make cold iron a weakness.
Im almost curious if it was a vampire. It may have possibly been a changeling and the iron gate impaling him killed it cause cold iron. Changeling can be as viscious and predatory as vampires if their durance promoted that, and the series has played with more than vampires. Doesn't change much but it would be neat.
@@Crouza Yeah my theory is a Changeling of some sort. Possibly a Ghast, a Thallain known for meticulous cannibalism using knives. (as opposed to Redcaps which would just eat them whole)
While it's not impossible for an organvore vampire to be the culprit, it's an odd enough detail to be called out, and Nagaraja, the most notable organvores, are hella rare outside of the Middle East and South Asia.
But it's weird that Kitten was able to kill it so easily, in part because they mentioned that the body just faded away upon landing on the fence. As is known, kindred bodies age to their proper state when they meet final death so that would imply a vampire old enough that the body fully disintegrated, or else it's still alive and escaped, which would raise questions on why Kitten survived such an obvious Masquerade breach that he knew the vampire's name.
Changelings have far less stringent social control (since they can rely on their Fae Mien being hidden by Banality) so a changeling dying, especially one as unseelie as a Ghast, wouldn't be a huge cause for alarm. They're also not nearly as physically powerful as Vampires. (they can be strong, but generally would require cantrips or being a Troll) they're weak to cold iron, and banality can throw off a lot of weirdness when recalling details for Kitten. (Ghasts are notably very good at avoiding attention right up until the actual kill) Also Big D made the odd comment about it not actually being Davies but something wearing his skin. He knows enough about Vampires to know that you are fundamentally the same person before and after your embrace though, just undead, so it's an odd comment. Changelings by contrast are technically fae spirits melding with human souls in a human body, so it could be considered a more accurate description.
The only big oddity is that Changelings typically leave a body behind. Once they're killed, all that's usually left is a perfectly ordinary corpse, but it could have been banality messing around with things again.
A quick guide to the terms used by Horse at the end there:
Kine - Humans
Kindred - Vampires
Garou - Werewolves
Milklings - Fae/Changelings
Elohim - Angels (specifically fallen angels)
i thought elohim only referred to the entities imbuing the Imbued hunters.
@@gvwwb6259 there’s an implied possibility that angels might be involved with imbuing
I have a genuine question... Why are fae called Milklings? Im more so interested.
@@edgarallenpo8330 it is a slur for changelings
Fallen Angels......aaaaaaAAAAAAAAAAAAAAATHEDEMONSARECOMIIIIIIIII-
Alright, in light of Chapter 4, I'm gonna try and theorycraft given Horse's... everything.
_"Of Two, One falls... One rises. Damnation. The Third Eye opens. His Suet will feed and warm her gullet."_
I propose there is *definitely* a werewolf in the room, and it's probably *either* Dr. Waters (has access, is auspiciously missing for much of this, and probably the only one who'd have any grudge against Fatigue,) or Matilda *Wilde,* (who would go unnoticed by most and was not accounted for during the attack.) This... may result in a character gaining explicit psychic powers? I doubt there's a Salubri involved. Still, I *believe* it to be Dr. Waters, the "of two" elders of the house alongside her potential victim, Fatigue.
_"The _*_Patriarch,_*_ in mastering _*_Luna,_*_ ends hamstrung. He will wish death upon his flesh... but no mercy shall be given, for none he hath gave."_
I further (and more importantly) propose that Renold Blacklaw (the eldest direct family member among the Blacklaw clan, and thus Patriarch) is a Ghoul. Specifically a ghoul of Malkavian origin (Luna) and in doing so gained power over Dementation. Specifically the ability to heighten or deaden emotions in others, inflame passions or negate them, possibly more. He could have used these powers to warp the perceptions of his sons, allowing him time to slip away and strangle the very-nearby Occam. (Obfuscate would also be on option, but Dementation makes more thematic sense given his ability to rile up everyone around him with ludicrous power.) Further, it also fits with him wishing death upon his flesh (being Occam's uncle.)
_"The rising 3 will signal wars end."_
This one could be for a future event, but would fit Marckus, Brok and possibly another (Kitten, likely?) putting an end to the family rivalry for the good of all. It'll come at great cost, probably Renold's death, but it'll be over with.
_"From them, bloodshed. Armageddon for all. Kine, Kindred, Garou (Werewolves,) Milklings, (Changelings!), Elohim (ANGELS!). In the light, they all will-"_
...And with Occam out of commission, Renold out of the picture, and D's loyalists back in the fold, a vengeful Chapter House will start going on a rampage utterly wrecking the *shit* out of supernatural threats and 'civilians' all over the place.
This isn't absolute, lordy could this ever just be me spitting nonsense, but I feel *strongly* this was laying out the plot of how Chapter 4 went and the arc will go as a whole.
You got a heart man. So at the very least your theory crafting has been appreciated, even if some parts of it turn out to not be true. Regardless very well done. A truly titillating theory.
"This... may result in a character gaining explicit psychic powers?"
In the pubbing audio log, Markus starts to show possible signs of pyschic capabilities as he SEEMINGLY begins to alter reality and probability during his confrontation with Brok.
If anyone, I'd assume it would be him, and there's basis for it already.
@@KillerOrcaAnd kitten shall be the one who falls, just like in tts.
I think Patriarch is Big D, as he is batshit insane.
@@KillerOrca Well I don't think that was markus most likely the funny ghoul constabulary that was watching the whole thing unfold before him and thus he used one of his diciplines to Idk break the mechanism? (Might be rambling nonsense cause Idk WoD lore)
Marcus calling him "Companion" never fails to elicit a chuckle.
And Door calling Kitten Captain :')
@@KingLich451 NOOOO WHY DID I JUST REALISE THAT PLEASE IM SO SAD NOW
@@alexandrustemate4461 I wonder if his 3 brothers are the 3 stripersodies
@@grandheadass9476 I cannot believe there is a reality where that WOULDNT be true
@@grandheadass9476 I mean we can pretty much asume that out the gate. I'm more wondering if his sister is going to be Shadowsun.
I got so used to Kitten that I completely forgot about previous incarnations. Door calling him Captain went completely over my head until just now. I suppose that's a good thing, but I feel real dumb.
Don't blame yourself. Until I read your comment i didn't catch that too.
Neither did I. You need to watch shows like this multiple times over to catch all the small details. Hell, rewatching DBZA there are still small details I catch.
Alfa and TFS prove that maybe corporations shouldn't have absolute control over IPs, maybe fans can understand the content better then even the original creators. I will standby TFS understood DBZ better then Toriyama himself. Let alone what Alfa did with 40k. I never thought I would get into WoD (I'm more of a sci-fi guy), but here I am digging into the lore.
What Joel says is very true! For example, in DBZA, Cell saying "OH SHIT!" to Vegeta's Final Flash is actually a reference to the German dub, where said exact thing happens.
Interesting. I can't see any of these characters as anything but continuations of the 40k series
Both kittens are so well written charqacters that are easy to not just see them as some kind of expo of one another. So I think is a big W for the writters
One thing I noticed is that Marckus assumed that Big-D just pawned the responsibility of taking care of Horse to them, while in reality Big-D was only willing to leave Horse after Kitten promised that he would take care of him instead.
Which makes sense because Markcus, like Magnus, does a lot of dumb shit thanks to misinterpreting events from his perspective.
Kitten's story is a textbook Imbuing, and given that the girl there probably slept in the dark, he sure did mention a lot of details, like coffee, creamer, and blood stains, his fangs, exactly what he had done to the body... Discern is the first Judgement Edge, and later Kitten pins Pyotr to the spot with an intense gaze, like the Burden Judgement Edge. Judge Kitty
Right. Kicks him very hard... y'know, through a window. Kicks _a brawling vampire through a window._
No small amount of luck or power in pulling that off.
Im sure this is intentional lore bits for us to nibble on, but this is also what being in a traumatic fight like that does to you. Some random details just become permanently seared into your memory along side random gaps you cant recall.
Im interested to see how it developes!
A judge hunter? Kitten? Unlikely given judges often acts as leaders which kitten is anything but..also, he is somewhat.. sane-ish?
@ilke kara he's a continuation of 40k Kitten, who was just affirmed as the best guy for Captain General. And he also is very much the most level headed of the group, only taking a backseat role due to Ds incredible knowledge and experience
@ilke kara and the hunters go insane slowly, and in specific ways. D is quite possibly over 100 years old, yet he only currently borders on truly unhinged. Kitten has only been doing this for less than 10 years or so, assuming he entered college right out of high school
God dammit, Markus trying to kick off a Horse Heresy, I love it
Horse heresy chapter 1: horse rising. "I was there when he killed the E"
D*
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I hope at one moment Big E falls from Horse and end up quadriplegic in a wheelchair and Markus loses and eye, I know recently the 40k references have been in decline and Htp has becomes it's own thing but I still really want a spoof of the Horus heresy.
Horse is Horus. The Big D's favorite son
I think the most shocking this about this is that no one has any resentment towards Horse, I was expecting everyone to roll their eyes at Big D's 'adoption' of Horse as a son but legit they just consider him a brother.
Marckus seemed to have a little bit of resentment, but it seemed it was more resentment towards D forcing the situation in the first place whilst providing inadequate care mixed with general frustration
@@Detahramet I'd say Marckus is mostly just bewildered at how utterly disproportionate Big D's treatment of Horse is compared to the one he gave to Marckus. He also states, later, that father's treatment is "not helping", implying he's concerned about absinthe actually being harmful (or simply not helpful) to Horse.
And hey, while envious, he DID include Horse into his revolutionary plan and was willing to let his 'brother' reap the same benefits of commandeering Big D's room and aspirin.
Big D has some narcissistic traits, but I don't think he's a full-on narcissist.
@@Detahramet I think Marckus resents that he isn't the favorite. Horse is the favorite because he's the one that listens and doesn't judge... while Mackus often judges his father and well, basically had alot of Big-D's faults, except made worse by Marckus' own recklessness.
@@CountDVB Marckus is - unfortunately - very much like his father, only without the extensive experience to temper his worst traits. D knows this and is presumably trying to prevent Marckus from making the same mistakes he did in his own misbegotten youth. Or at least that's how I see it, because I picture a young and inexperienced D being very similar to how Marckus is now.
I may be reading too much into it but I like the implication that Door constantly declaring "Carmilla" is the first vampire might just be Door actively playing dumb and saying incorrect facts to make any potential vampire spies might over hear so they think they're less of a threat.
Possibly, but it's also possible that she really was the "first vampire" because the first 3 generations were not called vampires, but we're called "Antediluvians", a name that has been used for the first 3 generations in the past.
It could also be a writing based in-joke to some of the old Hunter books that had 'Carmilla' listed as the first vampire on the conspiracy board full of half right half/wrong conspiracy theories put together by one guy
Carmilla was the first written vampire in history. Five or three years before Dracula
I had assumed he was trying to get them to correct him out of annoyance
Vampire lore started out as witch hunts in small transylvanian towns, specifically relating to the dead coming back to life, and accosting those who they had business with before they died.
Thats where the staking thing comes from too. Numerous graves were defiled and the corpses impaled through the heart, as this would aupposedly stop them reqnimating at night.
The whole thing was really rather comical, seeing as there were no real victims, just corpses suffering from the mass hysteria and drunken halucinations of the peasant folk this time.
Well you guys certainly did your homework on the whole world of darkness in the white wolf universe. The horse spoke of the Abby, the horse spoke of Gahanna, the horse spoke of the The Final Moon. It's funny that he actually covered all three end of the world scenarios in one rant. I'm not going to lie though I feel sorry for boy, anyone who hears one of these Legends completely in the white wolf universe is plague with nightmares of how it's going to happen, considering it's one of white wolves few infohazards in-game.
Well technically it got cut off before Horse could complete it; the rant wrapped them all up into one package but didn't finalize any of them once Door woke up.
What about the Revelation of the Tenth Sphere and the Awakening of the Sleepers to the true nature of Tapestry and Tellurian?
@@ariandynas I'm pretty sure all of that was covered just not in precise and gross detail like you wanted it.
I looked up all of those things and found nothing. What do they mean and is there any videos/wiki pages on them.
@@jacobthurmond6210 so first off it'll help if they're spelled right; Gehenna is the vampire apocalypse, Where the first Vampire Caine will arise to consume all his childer, along with the 3rd generation of Vampires who founded the 13 clans. Kindred and mankind alike will drown in oceans of blood. The Final Moon is the werewolf apocalypse, Where Luna sacrifices herself to save Gaia and is shattered by a meteor called the Claw. All of the worshippers of the Wyrm, the primal force of destruction, then will rise up and make one last great battle against the Garou and their kinfolk. The Revelation of the Tenth Sphere is the mage apocalypse, and actually applies to the word as "the unveiling" - its when the last unknown Sphere of magic is revealed, showing the complete understanding of the universe to all Mages and which Awakens Mankind, turning us all into magi and destroying the force of unbelief which prevents mages from using their magic to its full potential.
Man's so American he puts his son to bed in Eastern Standard Time while they're in Norfolk.
Patriotism right there.
What I appreciate about Big D, unlike his WH40k counterpart, is that you get the sense that he's a good father, despite his eccentricities. At the beginning, he starts off complaining about his kids and puts the onus on them for being ignorant. But once he calms down a bit, vents a little more, he starts to think about if it's wise to keep his kids and son-in-law in the dark. You get the sense that he's actually scared about losing them, and simply wants to do the thing that's best for them. Big D is old enough to be around when _speakeasies_ were a thing. He's _old_
In spite of that, he doesn't seem anymore jaded about the lives of his kids than any other parent. You may get the sense that a lot of his kids died, perhaps by his own blunders. Combined with seeing enemies everywhere, he must be - rightfully - paranoid about the lives of his children.
I guess Horse's "purpose" is to serve as a sort of mediator for the family. Horse is there so the others can talk about their feelings and vent, as seen by Marckus and his father. Door and Marckus arguing like brothers is cute.
EDIT (post watch): What the fuck _is_ horse!?
Probably Horus after leaving rectonlandia
Vampire horse, the joke is that is horse is horus.
Ah, a comment from the Admiral.
Now things are finally starting to make sense.
More later.
Whatever horse is, he is something demon related. Or possibly wyrm
@@agustinmarcelosuarezquilis7264 What? how was horus retconned?
While it saddens me that TTS had to be cancelled, this entire series has done a FANTASTIC job at filling the hole that was left. Thank you guys so much for this amazing and funny content, you’re doing the emperors work!
not cancelled, put on indefinite hiatus.
maybe GW will stop being bitches... someday... maybe...
Anyway, we gotta have hope.
It's less cancelled and more on hold
This is better tbh
I wouldn't have discovered vampire the masquerade lore if they didn't switch to this after TTS.
@@Dimizar WoD/VtM lore tip. After you get a grip on the clans and whole vampire side of things, in the World of Darkness, READ CLANBOOK BAALI. Its in the Vampire: The Dark Ages line. Ignore V5's ridiculous cash grab lore books and total failure of a video game/TTRPG launch. Ignore almost all newer mentions of the Baali till your way more familiar with the huge scope of World of Darkness. Unfortunately, they turned an awesome clan into cringe, edge lord, baby eating, yawn vampires. Think old and new Star Wars, or any IP that has recently been resurrected, an ruined. Esp the new stuff. V20 (4th ed.) is as far as I would go, unless your into pronouns and that crowd. And don't bother with YT videos on it. They cant discuss the badass grimdark shit in any detail, or the get demonized.
This puts Big D's age into an even bigger question key to understanding his eccentricities/knowledge. He speaks of humours, speakeasies, etc...
1960 perhaps ?
He firmly believes he killed Harry Houdini, which would put him at around 90-100 years of age at LEAST (Houdini died in 1926), and his use of mina as a unit of measurement could imply he's as old as the Iron or Bronze Age (about 2500-3500 years ago).
He uses a really old measurement known as the Mina. It saw use in ancient Greece and other regions around the time of their typically defined relevance
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The Emperor of Mankind was born in non-coastal Anatolia around the end of the Anatolian bronze age, so this incarnation being similarly ancient runs true to form.
@@korstmahler
So what would that make Big D in the World of Darkness setting? If not a vampire himself, what other beings that are 'human'...but also...not? (I don't know how long werewolves live)
@@navilluscire2567 I think he's a form of mage(or as Kevin puts it a wizard lol), which would match his 40k psyker inspiration. He might also be a specific form created when a mage refuses to ascend and reincarnates instead(kind of like going NG+ with a bunch of buffs you learned in the previous run plus futuresight more or less) in the same theme as 40k's shaman reincarnation-fusion thing.
There's a specific middle-eastern fellow in the WoD world on a mad crusade to do some things, but for the life of me I can't recall his name or what he's doing. He's a good candidate for being D though, but I don't even recall if said guy is actually a mage and not some other supernatural. Man gets around though so D's traveling is on brand.
As for age, powerful mages can be around for a very long time. With how 'magic' 'works' they essentially reject reality and substitute their own, which is very Big D.
A quote for example;
"Microbial infections only affect evil people" - Big D, potentially altering his reality and ducking the resulting paradox because everyone just thinks he's crazy.
Side thing: Kevin's not a mage by technicality, vampires lose that connection when created and the his group had to find other ways to gain their abilities.
We got alot of information about all the cast.:
- Big D being legitmly concern about his methods and wondering if he should come clear with them.
- Markus and Door being honest and brotherly.
- Kitten past and that he has Siblings (wich are likely Pillarstodes and a Sister wich is curious)
- Boi showing hes ridicolously strong (wich i was suspecting from him firing a high caliber revolver) and being able to chug Absinthe of all fucking things and being fine.
- What the fuck is Horse?
I'm thinking either a changeling or maybe demon possessed by the worm or one of its many aspects.
Sister is probably the stand in for Celestine most likely.
Horse is most likely a Fallen, also called Demons.
Sister is probably sisters of silence
@@raphsere apparrently there is a literal species of demonic hroses that deal with the death dragon.
For the prophecy part, for at I gather:
-Boy is supernatural (kinfolk or a mage)
-Boy will kill Door, maybe by mistake (with his new powers? Door is turned in a vampire and Boy has to kill him?), maybe protecting himself from Door (Door hates the supernatural, if his son is a Magi, would his love stay his hand?)
-Markus and Boy may become mages but Markus will become a "fallen" mage (Markus in 40k is a psyker/wizard bound by the chaos gods, so it checks)
-D will fight a garou (werewolf) and end up cripple (in the other audiolog, he shows how scared is he from werewolf and how his children are not ready, so he'll have to save them when encounter one of the Garou)
-The abbot is the prince and will feed on someone? (maybe is the Sabbat leader that we see in the end of the first episode? Ape talked as if the Sabbat was a "cult" and wanted to be a priest)
-D plans to break the Masquarade and the Veil to let the entire world know the supernatural but by doing this, he will provoke Gehena, the apokalypsis (he talked of this with Kevin and the consecuences of doing such thing, well, is pretty obvius)
When a garou changes the first time, they can't control their anger and strike at everything in range. So it's possible boy turns for the first time and goes ape mode, unintentionally killing door.
Boy could also be adopted and have killed his bio-dad
@@redrum1096 or, Door is bitten. :V
@@AimlessSavant that's not how werewolves work in WoD. You're born one, and can only be made one if you steal or are given the pelts of many of them. Hell, not even all werewolf kids can transform, it's still really rare for it to appear.
It was mentioned about one falling and one rising. Maybe that will
Be Markus and boy
I love Boy's immediate reaction to seeing a bottle of Absinthe is to immediately finish it.
Coz he’s in England, standard shit
As someone who grew up in East Anglia, I really appreciate how this series is accurately representing the daily horrors of life there. 👍
Horses talk in East Anglia?
@@overscoresam948 Totally. You’re not considered a real adult until you’ve been traumatised by a talking horse with a Satanic voice only you can hear.
And don’t even get me started on the vampires…
@@overscoresam948 all the time, just the other day my nag told me to clean up the kitchen... Sorry bad joke
Do you have neighbors who scream at night and dig ditches in random places
@@nicktrains2234You said that was a bad joke? I say, Neight!
Seeing markus and DOOR treating each other with such care is honestly so heartwarming and the fact that despite the absolute absurdity of it they treat horse as family and even call him brother (even if it's a joke) makes me smile so much, I do wonder if we'll ever see other members of the family and their bonds
Door is such a good big brother, its so wholesome
@@bleddynwolf8463 and a good dad
Ok, can we just take a moment to appreciate Marckus for a moment?
He's able to drag himself quite a distance on shitty crutches alone with both of he's legs more or less crippled and show little in the way of pain. sure he's in pain but he's ether gotten so used to it over the years of he's fathers torments or just has that much individual resolve.
Maybe D's relentless chicanery has been paying off more than Marckus himself realize?
Much like his father, markus was loaded on off brand booze and didnt he take some of horses meds too? Barkus is 100% bucked outta his bind there.
when your husband needs you, you go
Appreciate how much personality/characterization shines through even in how each family member comes and goes to the shed.
- D walks through the rain with an absolutely RIDICULOUS swagger, sporting only a tiny colorful umbrella hat to protect against the weather.
- Kitten, sensibly, travels like a normal person would through the rain, with a poncho and a regular-sized umbrella.
- Marckus, too, wears a poncho, but, suffering as ever, has to literally drag his useless feet behind him as he hobbles along shitty improvised crutches.
- Door, the Americanest of Americans, appears to have spent the entire day marching in the rain with no rain gear whatsoever, because he would never admit defeat against the foul British weather.
- Boy, the doted-upon grandchild of the family, has a far better raincoat than his uncles and rain boots too, though the coat is far too large for his tiny frame.
Door presumably spent quite a few years in various American cities known for their rain during his time with the EOD boys. Whats a some piddly little British rain to a man of the force?
Sorry for the late reply but door jusy walking through the rain could have come from both army days lf drill training in rain and hunting animals on top of monsters, he's probably very used to or at least can handle the elements having to catch game in unideal scenarios
As an American who perfers rain (and snow to rain) and cloudy weather, I say this: Pansies! It's just water and wind. Dress to the weather and you'll be fine. A little cold won't hurt you...
That said, I often wish to return to Iraq. I WILL climb that Ziggurat, one way, or another.
D obviously walks in the fashion of Dr. Livesey of a Soviet rendition of Treasure Island that recently was discovered and adored by Westerners. Adjacent music video is The Meme itself.
Also, to me it sounded like D was humming along to a Korn song while walking in the rain, though i don't remember the name.
Kitten's Vampire encounter sounds like a Kindred of Clan Nagaraja
-Nagaraja's bloodline curse is that they must eat flesh along with blood to survive and that it must also be fresh.
-Their members are usually wealthy with criminal elements, the money lending could be a laundering scheme.
-The encounter took place before the "Family Reunion" that formed the new Clan Hecata from the 10 descendants of the Cappadocian bloodlines which means they would still have the flesh curse.
Someone else suggested it was a "maeghar", a changeling that was embraced.
And what they were doing was draining the body of its blood in containers.
However it was also possible they had a "quirk", forcing them to eat the organs _or_ that their sire was of this clan and thus passed down the flesh-curse.
The Stereotype for the Nagaraja is homeless serial killer not wealthy Mafioso that's a hecata thing I'm pretty sure. But eating intestines is definitely Nagaraja. "Maeghar" just don't like skin, so flay their victims alive under sterile conditions sometimes. Unlikely.
Okay guys, that Horse monologue was REALLY FUCKING SCARY. I don't know If I should curse you all or thank for your great job...
Now a question remains.
What or who is Horse? Is he some sort of vampire? Or something else?
@@zcgamerandreacts2762 I'd say horse is something either Demon or Wyrm related.
@@Logamer-tn6db Something tells me you're right on the mark. I won't be sleeping tonight, that's for sure...
@@cormacbyrne2210 Did Big D knew Horse's true nature? And why didn't he put him out of his misery?
@@Logamer-tn6db one that has plenty of knowledge of the vampire factions. That is pretty sensitive information for someone like horse to know. Is he a spy? Or someone whose there by coincidence.
My friend, who is really into WoD like I'm into 40k, started to scream and yell when Horse-Son began to talk can only be a good sign 😊
Did he explain why? Either just because a 'holy shit thats a *****" some obscure monster thing, or breaking the 4th wall on stuff that shouldn't be known to characters in universe, or what?
@@jg2323 It says a lot about horse, narrows down what kind of supernatural he is … Demon or Far or something.
It also explains a bit about Sir D, who could be any number of things but is almost assuredly not human. And is likely related by … well blood or something like that to Horse.
It also says a lot about boy. He can hear Horse, and Horse calls him an Oracle. He likely has the gift of Prophecy and might well be a Magus.
What if the horse is horus, i mean if magnus of marcus and rogal dorn is door, horus could be horse. Plus big d says horse is his favorite son horus was the emperors favorite son
@@averageexistenceenjoyer3950 Two things can be true. :)
@@maggoli67 not invisible nor named harvy so doubtful.
The trauma of kitten is so fucking well written. And brought to life by ThunderPsyker in such a well delivered way. Thank you for that. Sitting here with a glas of whiskey and just drinking your work in with that peaty scottish drink.
What I am trying to say is: well done. And thank you for this moment in time.
Well written indeed.
Almost forgot that it was supposed to be funny, it felt reminiscent of like the time my dad fell a cliff while rock fishing, he's fine now but it's one of those things that stays in the back of your mind, it was delivered amazingly is what I am implying.
No wonder his DoW reviews are taking forever, he’s been putting all his efforts into feeling emotion (unlike other British “people”)
@@themostmagicskeleton273 Oh come now, British _'people'_ still feel an emotion.
Perpetual fear.
@@mortarion9813 Shit, you’re right.
I’ll make sure to keep within the lore next time
My theory for what happened to Kitten’s family is that after his encounter with the vampire student it was seen as a masquerade breach, and a blood hunt was whipped into action with Kitten as a target. Maybe he survived but his family wasn’t as lucky. Maybe that has something to do with why our cast of characters doesn’t ‘technically’ live there.
It was implied heavily that the “vampire” kitten encountered was not a vampire at all, in fact being a changeling. Reasons being: 1) it ate flesh instead of drinking blood. 2) It was specified to have died on an *iron* gate, iron being lethal to changelings. 3) Big D alluded to it when he told Kitten that it was “something else wearing [the student’s] skin”.
@@theturnc0at it was a Maeghar a changling that was embraced. The cainite was not eating the organs he was draining the blood into containers. Kitten probably didn’t realize what the cainite was doing. This is made clear by his hatred of feeding a weakness of the Maeghar. Iron also hurts Maeghar like it does to changlings due to their original nature.
@@MultiKbarry You clearly far surpass me in VTM knowledge, ill side with your answer
@@MultiKbarry Damn that is an extremely weird and deep pull. I wonder if it could have been a Maeghar who has the flaw that requires a vampire to eat their target's organs in order to gain vitae. If so damn that was somebody just under the absolute worst combination of conditions possible for a vampire.
@@keltzar1 well if the Maeghar was embraced by a nagaraja vampire then the whole eating the flesh of the victim would fit as well
You are spitting some SERIOUS deep lore with Horse there, if it weren't for talking to Boy specifically, the European absinthe, being nightmare fuel that poofs when when Door wakes up, heck even the term "Milking" which has given me a good idea the breed of what Horse is, but damned if I can remember the specifics. For the first few minutes with D I thought he was just a normal happy go lucky magical creature but NO he had to be a walking-talking-ancient-eldritch-PTSD trip, who is also a loving uncle and dutiful son. Bravo!
I was all like "Damn this horse is a dangerous demon!" and then he called boy his "Nephew" and i was like "ohhhh, horse is a cool uncle!"
Horse is the uncle that scares his nephew with stories of injuries received during his childhood shenanigans to make sure the kid doesn't make the same mistakes.
He's not always listened to, though he probably should be.
So what is Horse? After some digging around I found that Milkling is a term for changelings but I know NOTHING about them so I'd be very happy if you could enlighten me on that
@@BenersantheBread I can tell you the flavor of nightmare Horse is, but the specifics not so much. It's more fun to find out from watching the story unfold, as I don't want to ruin it for others especially since I could be dreaming this all up. I can tell you that coughing up blood, may have less been horse was sick and more horse forcing himself to vomit blood as part of a magic ritual, which is why Boy saw the family and house in it, but that theory may all be bunk. 😜
Not evil, just spooky
I absolutely ADORE every audiolog. Not only is it easier to make, but they feel like the old radio shows I used to listen to as a kid. With some fun sight gags thrown in for good measure :)
I kinda like them better than the proper videos because they are easier to consume.
They make great additions to the fully videos because we get a variety of insight into the characters, lore, and humor.
@@hariman7727 Indeed. It covers the quiet moments in depth which I love
Yeah but they are also great when you read the subtitle. All the bits in brackets are usually golden.
@@mikbdee2186 Oh yeah, definitly
also this audio log showcases how old D is.
he believes in the four humours and how their balance is needed to maintain health
Alternatively; considering this is a universe with vampires, werewolves, and actual magic, maybe the humours are in fact important and hes learned about it.
Could also be both.
It's worth mentioning this is the only episode thus far where D mentions the four humours -> he does so in front Horse -> who is heavily implied to be Horus -> Horus and his astartes often make mention of the humours in the Horus Heresy novels
Plus in the last video he defaulted to describing the basement door's stopping power in minas, then metric and imperial. Minas are a unit of measurement that originated in ANCIENT SUMERIA and still used up to the Roman era. The dude is OLD.
@@slayer0235 He also just happens to have a Roman gladius lying around in his...basement I presume? Wherever Kevin is tied up to.
so D is at least 500 years old to 6000 years old
meaning if the idea of the deluge taking place in 2350 BC he could have seen the destruction of the first city and the 3rd generation doing their thing
but he would have had to come into existence later then that if he hunted a methuselah (which are 4th to 5th generation vamps who have lived about a millennium) with his family possibly meaning that the deluge took place 5600 BC in this cannon
"Anti-psychotics.. No, Dad never takes those.." Explains so much
This series got me hooked. Audio dramas, animated series, all of it. Once again, you casually prove it was you and your teams genius that gave us the incredible work you present and it had very little to do with wh40k.
The childish humour mixed with intellectual background, the dialoges, the character depths, everything is just.. mwah, chefs kiss.
I honestly think it is a privilage to be able to watch your sheit free. Never change boys. You, crazy, brilliant bastards
Brings me back to listening to audio books on long car trips with my cassette player and my little binder of cassettes
Yesyesyes, if I have ever seen perfection _shush, Fulcrum_ then this is it.
Hear hear!
The very same! Alfa and his group just have a way through their humor and writing of finding a way to make IPs that were otherwise hard to get into, easy to digest and understand thus making it more accessible to people and I only see that as a good thing.
I Got my reaervations first But man the quality is so good
....the idea of Karl The Deranged actually being good with a guitar and singing....is somehow both comforting and also more psychically damaging than that last bit of this audiolog
another amazing one tho im glad you all wanted to make this story
He’s in a band you know?
He's got hobbies.
@@jamzee_ further research needed.
If you watch some of ZoranTheBear’s upper hive twitch streams Karl sings and plays in a few hes very good :) i love his cover of Rattlin’ Bog
@@cxfxcdude Oh I can´t find the Rattlin´ Bog cover anywhere. It was on one of his camping streams, right? Do you know where to find it?
Holy crap, just looked up how much Horse’s medicine cost, that’s literally almost a $1000!?!? Also the shock in Kittens voice that Horse gets actual shampoo is just gold! Also from the yowling is Kräkus some sort of were creature?
or kräkus is a were creature
As someone who works with horses I can guarantee that when a horse fucks itself up, it is DETERMINED to fuck itself up. A gelding in a field got a thin rebar spike up his foot. I removed it and he was very grateful. He then got an ulcer in the wound. He had trouble eating as my boss feeds the horses on the fence with buckets. The other boys kept trying to nick some of his food because they knew he couldn’t kick their asses aswell. Then after a while when it was finally healed, BAM! Second ulcer. Best part is that he is a racehorse so his owner was pissed lol.
I see you've never owned a small-H horse. $1000 bill for meds from a vet is chump change. Those hay-burners are expensive to take care of.
Kräkus is probably the local crackhead/wizard that helps D and the Lads when he's not being a horrifying British weirdo.
Krakus is probably....or yet most definitively a werewolf neighbor, some hunters make agreements with werewolves for protection since they have no problem with mortals.
Satan/Horse calling Boy "my nephew" is surprisingly heartwarming.
Took me way to long, to realise what Hor(u)s(e) is a hint to :D
Also I love how Karl seems to be this weird eldrich part of the gang, that always shows up for fucking weird cameos and voice actor work, but always stays in the backround and remains a side character. He also showed, that he still has the talent for animation in him, even though his work is rarely seen anymore.
A wonderful episode as always, and although I am looking forward to the next animation project, that you already half-announced, I also wanna see more from this family and get to know their backround, secrets and new adventures :3
His 40k Assassin shorts come to mind. Eversors are canonically deployed in blood-splattered white minivans and nobody can convince me otherwise.
He is the favorite son !!! Why i didnt saw that by jove good catch!
shhhhh! U wanna get us SUED?!? *shinning*
great sir can you enlighten me what was war master refereeing to? I'm still new to bigK universe. Thanks
@@gandolfthegray3334 oh no, I was just talking about his name and standing and him being a reference to the warmaster from 40k.
The stuff he was speaking about was probably related to something, that could happen in the future of the show. It was cryptic enough, so that it could have been reffering to lots of things from the world of darkness universe and I'm not well versed enough in the lore, to decipher it.
The thing I’m interested in seeing is our custiodies trio back. I imagine them being Kittens buffed older brothers or cousins.
oh god yes please
i think krakus they talked about might be karstodies,
the purple hair one
@@HellishSpoon Actually, I believe Kräkus (or however it is spelled) is a reference to the Krakus character from the TTS special where they played Warhammer Fantasy; Krakus was a dung-collector, and was being played by the Lord Commander of the Imperial Guard (the military old man of the High Lords).
Well he did mention having 4 siblings, 3 brothers and sister. It is possible!
Did they said their sister died?
I think this episode has my favorite Karl stinger. It has evolved so much beyond his usual jumpscare antics to showcase impressive musical talent, resistance to pine needles, while still being consistent with his grandma story, and his unsettling presence.
You know since boy was the only one who seemed to have some grasp of Oracle like abilities it makes me wonder if every time Horse spat up the blood, that was his way of trying to scream warnings of the future tragedies to come. If that’s the case then horse deserves several- NO a dozen sugar cubes for his loving heart.
Your comment made me realize that Boy was the only one to see images in the blood splatters.
Considering horse is horus ? No,he is absolutely evil is my opinion
@@bartu913 horus wasn't always evil he was a relatively nice dude at the start somehow his sons are dumb enough to left him to heal under the care of a witch(chaos) cult....
@@bartu913 Yeah but Markus was pulling an Erebus and Door a Magnus with him, it's not like everything translates 1 to 1 here.
Let me be frank. I'll never not miss TTS. But!
Holy shit Alfa you and the team are hitting it out of the ballpark with every upload. I can't stress that enough. You guys are the only patreon I subscribe to, because you guys put out gold every. Single. Time. Thank you so much for years of entertainment.
I believe Horse to be a form of Wyrm or a Wyrm servant, which are essentially the god/demon spirits of Garou, aka Werewolves.
To be more specific I believe he is a beast bound Bane, a Fomor or Fomori.
Fomor tend to have pretty hideous deformities but persist in spite of that, that may explain why Horse is evacuating literal gallons of blood but is still alive.
A fomor being a piece of Wyrm or servant of Wyrm would also have greater knowledge of pretty much everything although wrapped in a sheet of insanity.
Fomori are also specifically created by Pentex, another form of Wyrm Servant which specifically want the apocalypse to happen, which may explain why Horse seems to have knowledge of the impending apocalypse.
Oracle is also a title related to Garou mythology.
My earlier theory was that Big D was a Purified, something similar to a lich in some ways that exists in parallel with both the mortal realm and the spirit realm, I believe this unique existence has allowed him to essentially tame Horse as Purified tend to have a natural kinship with spirits.
A Fomor is a lot like a Purified in some way, both are essentially loose spiritual entities bound to flesh which may further explain Big D's affection towards Horse, the kinship he feels is one born of similar circumstance.
That may also explain the need to dose Horse with incredibly powerful medicine and alcohol, Big D may be trying to both stop Horse's physical form from naturally deteriorating while also trying to stop the encroaching madness a Wyrm servant would feel.
I just love his last words, he sees everyone as family.
That, or Boy got high from the wormwood in the absinthe.
I like your explanation better though.
Thanks so much for this! It’s always great having someone with deep White Wolf lore!
A purified is chronicles of darkness. Which is a separate universe/series from world of darkness. Horse being a tormented Elohim (basically demon/fallen angel) is more likely. D as a possible archmage might be trying to cure horse and can relate to him deeply as an equally powerful human, both powerful but risk paradox should he use his powers
There's a specific type of Fomori called an Aughisky, created when a Bane possesses a horse. They were used as mounts by Black Spiral Dancers during the medieval period.
I love the parts that are such big nods to the kind of sentiments that drove the Heresy. Everyone, even the Black Library authors, had thought they'd long picked and settled on sides to take on it, and these re-humanize the whole situation again. Fantastic work, revitalizing the field
I only just got the fact that Boy saw paintings of blood on the walls, showing the prophecy to none but himself and Horse. Which means that:
A: Horse vomiting up blood like that must have been him trying to tell his family something
B: That Boy has some kind of prophetic ability if the title of “Oracle” is anything to go by
And C: that the only reason Horse spoke was because Boy *saw* the pictures where no one else could, but could not understand it.
*”Fare thee well, mine nevew”* just melts my heart. Damn you, Alfabusa, you’ve made an eldritch horror that I am fully in love with.
In mage an oracle is a mage that refused ascension in order to teach other people magic arguably stronger than god and have high status in magic circles.
Our boy is an oracle meaning that he is one of the top players in the world of darkness
@@nerdydude1.882 Duly noted. Can’t wait to see more of what these guys have planned.
@@nerdydude1.882 Oracle doesn't have to refer to the type of mage though. Horse could've simply said it as a term for someone who is able to see the future.
Either way though, the fact that Boy can see the future in Horse's blood, can lift boar corpses that Door needed help doing, and has somehow survived on a pure meat diet along with strong alcohol at a young age, Boy is definitely NOT normal.
My current theory is that Boy is a baby werewolf.
@@Birthday888 uh.....no. Werewolves FROM BIRTH are not as timid as boy is, they tend to be aggressive and anti-social.
@@nerdydude1.882 Like the Arhats of the Vampires of the East?
I hope Door secretly heard everything that Horse said to Boy as he reassures his poor son that everything is fine while telling Big D about The Prophecy.
You did notice the gun in his as he was walking out right?
@@Soundwave142 Door entered the shed with 2 guns but leaves one in order to grab Boy.
@@alderon1920 That I did not notice.
YES! More characterization for everyone! Door's quickly becoming my favourite of the cast, with how he handled Pytor, consoled Markus, and is trying his best for Boy. And Karl's solo at the end was crazy good! Love you guys, love what you do, and what you're all doing here is nothing short of phenomenal!
It's a tossup between whether I like Kitten or Boy more in this series.
I also like the way Door views vampires.
10:53 Most people would have forgotten about that sound TVs and speakers would make when near old mobile phones sending and receiving calls and texts, what an absolutely insane level of attention to detail you guys have. Man that little beeping noise takes me back and makes me think that Door might be right at 20:58 someone might be listening, recording even. Maybe the old camera aesthetic might not just be a stylistic choice.
Thank fuck I wasn't the only one who heard that sound both times and immediately thought of a potential eavesdropper.
Honestly, in a way, i'm glad that you guys started in a new IP. I feel like the team took lessons learnt in TTS, an used those ideas and characters in a great way here. It fees almost like you have a new leas h on life; everything here feels so much more like it is your own vision of what you want for the characters and plot; no longer restricted by old ideas/the IP like (as much as i love it to death) parts of TTS felt like. Its refined, streamlined, elegant and I love it.
I continue to wish you al the best of luck!
After all despite it being an established IP non of the characters are all blank slates though you can see the echoes of Warhammer with SIR D talking about what he should and should not tell his sons
They're still constrained by the general lore of 5E WoD though.
@@raphsere He is taking about the characters I don’t remember hearing about these characters in VM universe
@@raphsere yeah, but they've clearly had time to choose an IP. Paradox has quite a few IPs, as do other companies which are more liberaly with creative liscences.
TTS has clearly had a lot of different interpretations, and the overarching narrative has probally gone through a couple of re-writes. Here it at least seems to me, that they've got a ckeae vision of what they want.
@@raw1175 That's what i mean; they now know what they want from these characters and it's super entertaining to watch the characters and voice actors go at it again.
Kitten's new outfit in this episode made me realize just how much drip he has.
I knew theyd have Horse talk and it would be the tts voice actor! Love the detail of him having "eyes of horus" when hes speaking. Wonder if any other primarch influenced sons of big D will show up?
I'd love to see how they do the lion
I think we all suspect Leman Russ is a werewolf and Sanguinius a vampire who achieved Golconda.
@@commanderdanielcousland9981 I bet you Lion will be a literal Simba Changing breed
@@commanderdanielcousland9981 werelions are a thing. Though they will probably save that for Russ being a werewolf.
man I really miss corvus and vulkan
After hearing what happened to Kitten… yeah it makes sense why he wants to learn more. And it’s really reassuring that Big D told his son in law any of this. Even if his terrible parenting is as bad as his choice of medicinal alcohol.
Also FUCKING HORSE
that wasn't a vampire. i think it was an Unseelie Changeling of some description. it ate flesh and died on what was specifically stated to be an *iron* gate. Big-D obscured some of the truth but dropped a hint by saying it was something else "wearing his skin".
@@gvwwb6259 What, like a Redcap? He said Edwin Davis was well liked in campus, so maybe that's not it. Could be a Sidhe then. Honestly though, I still wouldn't rule out it being a Vampire. My immediate thought was a Nagaraja, but those are pretty easy to spot. Might have been a member of a different clan who just happened to have the Organovore and Stake Bait flaws.
@@jor4114Sidhe is the Thalain version of the redcap right? My money is on those unceilie bastards since they like to eat organs and aee usually depicted as being much more calm, cool, collected and psycopathicly cold too. So it fits the dudes description
@@evilsclone2499 No, Sidhe are the elf looking pricks. Ghasts are the Thallain version of the Redcaps.
@@jor4114 ahhh, gotcha
Once again I must give high praise for ThunderPsyker as Kitten delivering an amazing story that felt gripping and traumatic, even for how short it was.
Steller performance.
Using my own knowledge of World of Darkness lore I'll try to give my five cents on Horse's prophecy:
"Doth thine eyes see it, Oracle": Boy might be the reincarnated soul of a Mage who refused final ascension as to help others achieve mastery over magic. Horse may be asking if Boy knows about the incoming prophecy.
"Thine Faeder, laid bare. Dessicated on the rocks, by thy hand": Boy kills his dad. Could either be from Boy betraying Door or Door betraying Boy.
"The Abbot will know": Assuming this refers to the local Camarilla Prince. This might also be some veiled command that the Abbot may know about the prophecy too.
"Of Two, one falls. One Rises. Damnation. The Third Eye opens": This one is a doozy. "Of Two, one falls" could be Marckus or another member of the group being awakened to True Magic but having their Avatar reversed to become a Nephandi ("fallen" mages). The other one "rising", either Boy or someone else, goes the regular route for magic. ALTERNATIVELY the third eye refers to the Salubri, vampires with three eyes who were banished and vilified by the Tremere who took their place in the Camarilla.
"His Suet (sweat? blood? suet like the fat of animals) will feed and warm her gullet": Even less sure. The Abbot (Prince) eats someone?
"The Patriarch, in mastering Luna, ends hamstrung. He will wish death upon his flesh.": D, patriarch of the family, gets viciously crippled by a werewolf. Possibly becoming suicidal? Basically D is fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuucked. He may or may not die, due to the whole mercy thing. Like a less lavish version of the Golden Throne.
"The rising three shall signal wars end. Woe and triumph.": No idea. If we go by the earlier Mage theory it might be that the three ascending mages in the family will end the big war that might spark due to the main family starting a whole load of shit. Or it is three vampires rising from the dead to start shit. Whatever it is, three people or things will rise and end a conflict. But it won't be pretty, woe and triumph. Some people lose, some people win.
"From them, bloodshed. Armageddon for all:" It's not gonna be pretty. We're talking megapocalypse fuck you. Gehenna? End Times? Whoever wins is gonna have some bullshit to deal with.
"Kine, Kindred, Garou, Milklings, Elohim": Humans, vampires, werewolves, faeries/changelings, demons. Big cast!
"In the light they all will-": Interrupted sentence but it could refer to a complete breakdown of the Masquerade, Veil, and all the other attempts to hide the supernatural. Game over, man!
The Prime sphere of magic is also associated with Luna. Maybe Big D himself will awaken as a Mage?
Or maybe he already is ;)
d will probably get over the crippling to some degree, knowing his madness..... but still...
though at the same time D has on multiple cases now shown mercy. He has this weird plan of destroying the mascarade and making the supernatural a part of the normal world i guess? He spared kevin when he showed how human he still was. though at the same time is using Chapman and will likely use him to his death if need be, though he himself is beholden too much to his addictions. But the entire idea of destroying the msacarade and given clamency to vampires with the will to withstand their curse is in itself, mercy in a way?
Its entirely possible that the ascension happens with three individuals rising in rank, each from every 'main' species. Mages, vampires, and the werewolves. MAybe turning into super versions of them.
With boy though.... well he's adopted so its entirely possible door doesn't die and instead its refereing to his biological father? that or door's prejudice against the supernatural is so strong that not even love of his son can stop his hand.
Might be part of why horse stopped his warning. he had to hide from.....
Actually did horse make door sleep to not have to interact with him?
The Patriarch I would assume means Kaine. Once he has truly mastered his curses and blessings under the moon he will sick of the spreading of vampirism. Possibly he'll actually start heading down the path of redemption laid out to him in the Book of Nod? One step of that path may require the culling of his "flesh", all vampires after him. Possibly it'll also require a death without resistance, something Big-D may or may not be a happy executioner for...
@@djchappell1726 oh that would sort of lend into the possibility of Gehenna, the vampire apocalypse. Spooky!
Well that went from 0-100 real quick at the end. Wonderful audio log where we finally get to hear the other members of the family. I love how these 40k parody characters are brought into WOD and the writing that ties their characters together. A wonderful exploitation of the opportunity for unique story telling.
Absolutely love Big D actually having a moment of introspection and second guessing his own actions. Something that you would never see from the Emperor.
The fact Big D has a love for his horse is heartwarming. I miss my own horse dearly and he kinda reminds me of myself, talking to a big soft horse about problems of life
Just...
Make sure said horse don't Talk Back...
@@nadontcare9684 I have a feeling Door did overhear that conversation between Horse and Boy before deciding to play the ignorant guy waking up and comfort his son.
Then warn Big D about Horse and the prophecy.
@@rexlumontad5644 actually lets face it, big d 100% knows his horse is some demon and likely fucked something that lead to the horse existing.
we know he has a desire to end the war.
@@taddad2641 I mean his horse (if he is to be believed) is atleast old enough to remember the 1860s
Big D may be strange, but I don`t think he doesn`t realise his horse isn`t normal
Ah yes bruvas. It seems bruva Alfabusa has blessed us with yet another masterpiece.
Hunter bruva-do
Alfabusa lives (stomp stomp)
Blessed also wrote this one. Neat!
I like the weird myths and half-true stories sorrounding Horse; only adds to the living and ambiguous mythology of D. who does seem to genuinely treat Horse as a favourite child and son; one with whom at least, he can be open and vulnerable with. providing all the weirdness and secrets he obfuscates and hides from his children to protect them while being mad at their impulsiveness and ignorance of the power of those actions.
Horse himself, seems to be something else, something great and old and strange. he calls out the names of many things within the World Of Darkness; Kine (humanity), Kindred (vampire), Garrou (Werewolves) and Milkings (Changlings & Fae). though Horse fails to mention Mummys, Mages, Demons and Wraiths; though that could be as a result of Door waking up and interrupting the conversation between himself and Nephew Boy. Maybe something great and old found its way into Horse and the 'illness' he is under is just him trying to use any method he has available to present the visions and horrors within the veiled future to someone. D did kill a methulsulah once upon a time, there are a few inferences that many of the methulsulahs achieved Galconda at one point and somehow the spirit of Lasombra endured and found home in Horse. Though considering visions and terrors and madness that Horse was foretelling it could easily also be Malkav or something else entirely.
All of this truly, puts into question how old D actually is; his story with Horse was during the prohibition era (1920-1933) of the United States. Meaning D and Horse would have had to have been alive since the turn of the century or close to it to have been involved during the Prohibition era and drinking and dancing at Speakeasies. So, D either knows something to retain youth or his grip on reality is frighteningly as tight as it can be while being divorced from it as much as possible.
Elohim are Angels/Demons. As for D's age, it's a tossup still: he uses ancient measuring forms, somewhat doesn't like modern technology (PLASMA TELEVISIONS) yet also seems to be on top of his game if it relates at all with his trade as hunter. As for speakeasies, some areas are still under similar status as during prohibition, and might've used the word both to distract and because he might not know another word for it.
Also, Horse might or might not be the "thing" in the cellar that Kevin wasn't told about. Or that thing got out while the Police searched the house. It seemed feral.
Humans can extend their lifespan indefinitely by drinking a vampire's blood. Using this method of life extension is considered insane by most hunters with too many risks. This sort of hypocritical heresy is exactly what the emperor of Mankind would do if he was a human in the world of darkness.
@@ghoul4748 but wouldn't that be a part of the blood bond and let the Vampire effect and manipulate their ghoul? And if D was extending his life by consuming vampire blood; considering his fits of clarity and madness, was he consuming Malkavian blood
@@samuelturner6919 If Horse is somehow a Ghoul of Malkav or something frighteningly similar and D is consuming Horseblood to extend his own life.
The practise of hunting down vampires to consume their blood to extend your own life is actually common practise in one of the american hunting lodges
I forgot their name, but it is not the long Vigil, it is another one.
Basically they have the same cravings as ghouls, but instead of service to vampires they get their fix (and power) by hunting more and more vampires down, the oldest Lodge members beeing able to go for hundreds of years basically acting like ancient vampires who can only sustain their blood potency by feeding on vampires exclusively
@@degurkin That's an interesting point. so one would have to find ways arouund the corrupting or commanding presence formed from a blood bond/ghoulification. Because as Kevin has presented it; the bond can be a corrosive hand within oneself that erodes individuality easily.
I like how Marckus calls Kitten Companion. Like, as far as I know, they didn't sign any contract he just casually refers to him as Companion.
I think the best thing about this cast, is that you can relate to each and every single one of them.
You can relate to Big D's fear of sharing the secrets of the Vampire World, you can relate to Kitten being Kitten, a kind yet respectful person, you can relate to Marckus for feeling like Big D is being an asshole for not sharing the secrets or not telling them that they shouldn't let the Vamps diablerise each other. You can relate to Door for not being angry at Big D, because he understands the threat of the Vampire World. And you can even relate to some of the big bads, such as Kevin (technically) as he wanted more than his shitty accounting life, or Pytor for wanting more than what was given to him.
I love it and will continue to love it. I get to learn about a grimdark universe, while having a good laugh.
Not really but ok
Mostly relate to Marckus, to be honest. Big D withheld some important information, that could have saved them all a lot of pain. Can't really blame Marckus for being pissed off.
I wonder if Big D in the past was more open with the lore of the supernatural with his children and it got the Sanguinius counterpart turned into a Vampire
Big D keeping important info away from his sons “for their own good” (such as stuff about Diablerie) is a nice echo of [copyrighted character] not telling his sons about Chaos
… *Cough* Choass *Cough* >)’:^o
But unlike then this makes sense. If word gets out about what they know they would be hunted by every vampire in the area and depending on how much pull the vamps have could get straight up bombed and put ob international terrorist lists. I assume D already is in some way
”Lack of fins”, Door they are in the lakes which are contained with in said land area. Also good on you for using the native name. I am just surprised that Finns haven’t flocked to this video. We usually do when the country is even passingly mentioned. Regardless great work as always you glorious svensk and team.
Im a Finn and i love these videos
I love how the characters walk, it reminds me of old Lucasarts adventure games, especially Monkey Island.
I'm guessing Big-D knows about SCARY EQUUS SEITHR VOICE and that's why the absinthe is there.
Also, the fact that Boy chugs it was a bombshell. He's eleven and drinks hard alcohol. He also killed a sadistic bloodthirsty monster that came withing a half inch of butchering his father and entire family. This family is not okay.
Boy stated that he loved ayahuaska back in the end of Episode 1 (implying he was no stranger to it - and lemme remind you, ayahuaska is a PSYCHEDELIC), and Door casually talks about how stiff drinks are only verboten before bedtime. Let's also not forget, Boy downed an entire remaining bottle of absinthe in five gulps, like it was water, and then remained standing. He only was a little bit slurring, but otherwise rather coherent.
Oh, and he has enough strength and endurance in his body to carry enough boar corpses that Door had trouble counting them. Even if he carried them one by one, boars are HEAVY.
This family is definitely not okay, sure, but Boy is absolutely positively BUILT DIFFERENT.
he beats a botta beaf
He's in Europe now. That's normal
Please, it's Europe, not the US and it's backward weird relation with alcohol. Being able to drink young is not such a big deal.
@@gabrieldoyen692 underage drinking explains so many things about Europe, you have no idea...
Horse has got to be a spirit of some sort. Big-D's "Agreement" of showering Horse with worldly possessions and Physical Affection in exchange for listening to Big-D ramble reeks of a Spirit Pact.
Given that everyone seems to believe/treat Horse like family, and Horse regards Boy as his Nephew also screams of the Spirits peculiar nature; where belief defines their existence.
Big-D even mentions that Horse has experienced an episode similar to this with the phrase "like last time", implying that the vomiting of blood may even be somewhat normal; or Horse's attempt to communicate some oncoming tragedy through means that only an "Oracle" could interpret.
...Or maybe I'm reading into it too much. Granted, I wouldn't put it past Alfabusa and crew to drop numerous hints as to the story's direction. Disguising foreshadowing as satirical ramblings seems to be a creative skill of Alfabusa and crew.
I get the feeling its a spirit wearing the skin of a horse, yeah.
I think it’s another name tie in with 40k where many of the characters are brought in or inspired by, Kevin Malcolm=malcador, Door= Dorn, Horse=Horus. The emperors favorite son who he destroyed, makes sense he wouldn’t have a body of his own so he’s a horse
What's a spirit pact?
@@MollassesHenry6 It's a special agreement somebody can have with a spirit in World of Darkness. It's usually a Werewolf thing but not always.
@@harperlawson6401 Is Malcolm actually Kevin's middle name though? I thought that D had made that up on the spot.
Karl's horror ballad is a bop; I love how insane these Karl bits are getting!
What did he meant with that song?
Chek out the lasts episodes at the end...some of them hace the answer
Worth noting: Boy is adopted. Horse might not mean refer to Door when he said "thine faeder"- he might mean Boy's biological father.
Leads credence to him being wolf blooded then...and the fact he's probably in better hands with the hunters
When did they say Boy is adopted?
@@Zickoly I think it's hinted to in one of the mid episode pictures.
@@Zickoly Boy looks nothing like Door? And also there has been no mention of Boy's mother.
@@dudewheresmycar4203 None of their mothers are mentioned, so they are all adopted
What's this? *Seven* videos out in half a year? Truly we are blessed.
The pacing is stupidly good, and the casual mass dumping of incredible character development and foreshadowing in a stupidly natural and amazing way is legitimately one of the tightest and best written stories I have ever seen.
I am always taken back by how well they handle info dumping in this series. They tell SO MUCH about WoD and about personal details about the characters while not feeling like an exposition dump. Like the audiologs for Kitten at breakfast. How do you talk about vampires and werewolves and such without feeling like you set a classroom lecture? Tie them into actual folklore for compare contrast to illustrate the points. I'm still geeking out a bit from a writers perspective about how good an idea that is.
@@jg2323 I know, but being able to trade through the characters, give a logical place for them to dump their emotions and inner feelings, foreshadow, and highlight their characters and conflicts in a single spot is insane.
If Kitten’s brothers are who I think they are I’m expecting much grease from one of them and much convincing from another
*with uttermost grease* haha my favourite of the 3
IT IS TIME FOR THE RETURN
They all own a gay manicure/gym.
AYEIeIEYEEEE!
Just super jojo fans and one has an obsessive lust for Marckus.
SpeakerD is able to pull of some of the most comical yet genuinely intense voices for Big-D. Just, wow. The right balance of lunatic and actually quite insightful. That takes talent.
I'm an long-time fan, and one of the single best jokes I've seen on this channel yet is that Door needs Markus's help counting the boars due to never learning to count in the Finnish math class. It's written and delivered with perfect dryness. I'm loving this series.
Bruva Alfabusa, the work of the team you're apart of cannot have it's praises sung any higher, for fear of deafening the heavens! Thank you, for the marvelous pieces of craftsmanship that you and the efforts of your colleagues have created. The world would be far more boring, otherwise.
the more we see of Door the more I can't help but finding myself loving and respecting him. He's Stern and Strict, Straightforward; Yet he's also Humble, Honorable and Honest. He's not the type of person you want to emulate, but we could all learn a thing or two from this Stoick Soldier.
He appreciates the simple and beautiful things in life, the smell of the wet forest and the majesty of a possible rainbow to come the next morn. he's a good sort.
It's a pity those don't last very long...
Was the alliteration intentional? Not that I am complaining
@@carlospomares3225 maybe a little, lol.
So Horse is Horus, right? Everyone looks up to him, Big D trusts him the most, and Magnus asks him to lead the revolution
I actually interpret him as Konrad Curze with all the aesthetic signifiers of Horus. He fits Konrad a lot better what with being a sickly prophet with a monstrous alter-ego.
THE HORSE HERESY
Maybe remember that this is a different series, in a different universe. TTS didn't wasn't exactly dead set on being serious about 40k's story and I don't think this series is aiming to be a recreate the 40k story in wod. The characters are informed from tts and we love them, but i think trying to put the horus heresy in this story would be one of the worst decisions they could make. It's a different universe and they'd have to set it up perfectly for it to make any sense at all
.... well.... that was traumatic. I will be spending a lot of my free time deciphering that which spoken...
Exemplary work, Bruva and the team!
I love how the animation is evolving and improving gloriously...
But right now I want that Karl song as a separate video, it's amazing
yes
Fack yes, we need this music video.
I was NOT prepared for horse and boy's conversation 😂😂 also Door "are you alright?" God damn
What’s sad is that unlike the Warp in 40K where Magnus and his brothers could’ve at the very least be made aware of its existence without major consequence(except probably Lorgar), Sir D can’t tell his family details about vampires without putting them in immense danger out of fear of Masquerade violations. Unlike warp entities, vampires thrive on remaining unknown to the mortal world. Sir D can’t explain why because explaining the Masquerade would in and of itself be a Masquerade violation. When not a vampire, knowledge is your most powerful tool against them. And it marks you for death.
I mean, Big D already described how horrible it is to try and face a true wizard- it could be that one of his sons, in a failed attempt to slay a mage, was turned into a horse.
Also Krakus is totally a werewolf.
Or Horse got cozy with a mage that has some fetishes, kinda amounts to the same thing in some cases.
The digging ditches were there should not be ditches suddenly makes sense.
It was probably Logan or Konrad
@@steffanyschwartz7801 you mean lorgar?
@@lucasbeck1391 it’s his parenting name, for legal reasons
I got so immersed in this slice of this world I completly forgot time and my worries, great job!
Highlights are definitly Kittens story about his first vampire encounter and the dialoque between Door and Marckus, they've grown to so much more than just TTS copies.
But the other characters could shine too, excellent writing Blessed.
Not to mention the voice acting breathing so much live into the less animated parts, special thanks goes out to TunderSpyker and Zegram.
4:08 - why is nobody talking about the "children who have NOT betrayed me" line?
The parallels to Big D's old throne-bound self and his children are obvious but I'm really curious how you're going to expand on this.
25:57 - so Kitten has four siblings... including three brothers...
...HTP Pillarstodes when?
And a sister, which makes me think the Daemonifuge is going to be making an appearance to question Kitten about whether he has finally begun to pursue THE PATH OF THE SWOLE
@@Mrinsecure I think the sister is going to be the Femporer from their tabletop adventures.
@@Spartanoffaith @MrInsecure
Huh, my initial thought was a Rule 63'd Santodes - just look at these magnificent golden locks!
But it's likely that Alfa will surprise us and none of our guesses will be right.
@@zimnylech527 or a trans santodes.
apperently D had a siblings and a Dad, but he's also stupidly old...
I like all the TTS references, like Kitten being called Captain and horse's prophecy involving D being 'hamstrung' :D