the fact that this engine is 1336L of displacement and is running at 13,3 AFR at full throttle means it burns 1 liter of fuel every second. fun fact of the day :)
@@electric7487 yeah but you don't specifically explain that the firing order is unique to being a two stroke which causes that misunderstanding. "Read my comment again" does not grant clairvoyance or mind reading.
one of my favorite things about naval engines like this is how slow the combustion is. Some real life ones are so large you can walk on the cylinder heads, so sticking a camera with a recessed quartz viewport in a cylinder head is actually somewhat of an effective solution to visual inspection, but good golly its not an explosion in there, its a very intense and admittedly quite rapid burn of some xtra thick fuel oil spray!
@@alouisschafer7212 All pinging/ignition knocking is is combustion not taking place smoothly. Detonation is the most accurate term. You can have detonation in a diesel engine. Part of why ether is so bad for them. It doesn't burn very smoothly at all, it just explodes in there.
@@TestECull you cant really control that in a Diesel... Fuel is Injected at the right moment and it it goes kaboom thats it. Cetane Rating of the Fuel factors into how a Diesel runs but what is the Cetane rating of heavy fuel oil? 10...20? On Road Diesel is atleast 50 I think
@@alouisschafer7212 It still happens and it can still fuck the engine up. Most diesels are designed in such a way as to encourage a smooth burn as much as possible; absolute best case scenario the knocking just makse a lot of clatter and loss of power as you hear in some IDI engines. Examples of this can be found in 84-96 F250, F350 diesel, and anythign based on that platform as the engines International supplied Ford were HORRIBLE about diesel knock and sounded like a bag of hammers falling down a steel staircase when everything was working perfectly. The 6.9 and 7.3 IDIs were so noisy that you can be forgiven for not hearing rod or crank knocking in them over the totally normal ignition knocking! I will give credit; those engines seem to last forever knocking like that. But all that clatter is just power lost to noise. Also why ether is such a bad idea. It detonates, rather than burns, no matter what you do in there. It is known to blow intake manifolds clean off when an intake heater is used as a cold start aid(And sometimes glow plugs, too, if it ignites with an intake valve still open). It is known to crack pistons, break rings, damage valves, cause all sorts of hell because that stuff just does not know how to burn smoothly in a diesel engine. Generally, if you're having to reach for the ether to get it started, it's either A: plumb wore the fuck out or B: you need to fix whatever cold start aid it has already and isn't working.
Wow, I didn't even think to make industrial-type engines. You should definitely test something like this with the turbo mod. I'd love to test out some train engines like the V16 in a GE Dash 9-44CW
I'm so happy seeing other content creators using Ange's program, blew my mind when I saw his vid on it and there's been a lot of cool "engine showcases" that come from it
My uncel worked on a large ship when he was younger. They once had to stop for a little over 20 hours due to repairs, once the repairs was done they had to rev up the engine a whole FIVE rpm to make up the time. They whent about 15 to 20% faster but fuel consumption DOUBLED as they whent from 50 rpm to 55 but the cost for the fuel wich was essentially asphalt tar was much cheeper than the penalty for being a dsy late, and they burned METRIC TONES more to make up the time
The bore is so narrow that it must use a crosshead conrod and not a trunk conrod. If its the latter, it would just slam itself to the cylinder wall. The crosshead would also eliminate uneven force on the cylinder wall as the conrod is maintained in a parallel direction to the force. And in a crosshead conrod, you can split the chambers and not have any blowby by simply connecting the piston in another chamber to the crosshead to the other chamber. This setup is used on a two stroke cycle uniflow scavange large diesel engine. The back of the piston would pressurize the air when it is going down until it reaches the ports and sends it to the top of the piston. When the piston goes up for the compression, the back of the piston creates a vacuum, assisting the blow for charging air. The crankcase is unaffected and can have a close loop lubrication as only the rod connects the piston and crosshead together.
No, the engine sim includes a few different engines, a Chevrolet 454ci V8, a Kohler 750 2 cyl (lawnmower), an Audi Inline 4, and this Bimmer I6. The creator of this video chose to modify the BMW engine, probably to use the Inline 6 model.
I still want to know if this project could be adapted to run in beam,ng. have beamng feed the engine composition and user input to this software, then this software feeds engine output to the vehicle through a two way API. A simulator for a simulator as it were.
i am no developer but it should work in theory, however i can imagine it either just running very poorly or just on specialized rigs that cost 3&1/2 kidneys
Some of the big engines use air blown into a cylinder as the starter. You have a small electric motor, or manual crank, that puts the engine in position so it turns the right way. By the same idea some of them reverse the engine rotation to reverse the ship. That’s why it can take a while to change direction. You have to bring the engine to a stop, then position it, then start it again in reverse.
this is new! hope we see more stuff like this. maybe in the future there will be steam engine simulator? it would be interesting to see specific ship engines too
i'm really hoping to see two strokes soon, since opposed piston engines like the Leyland L60 are two strokes aswell and I would love to make one of those...
@@indeedDE01 technically you could make 2 stroke engine if you adjust the timings of firing and valve openings but idk if I or anyone could do it to run and produce decent HP and lb-ft
@@CreeplayEU Modelling two-stroker would require fairly high-resolution and computationally expensive fluid dynamics to accurately simulate what happens inside intake and exhaust manifolds. If I understood Ange's video correctly, the software currently only does a rough approximation within the cylinder, and takes a shortcut in form of high and low pass filters to simulate the exhaust.
thats the great thing about these engines, usually when you see something spinning you wanna touch that (if it isnt just me) but these engines make you wanna keep distance from the moving parts
RPM is a little high, Most ships I worked on the top speed of the Slow Speeds was around 105 RPM's. The ability to almost hear each individual compression and ignition is correct, when standing on top of the Engine you can feel when each cylinder would have combustion. just couldn't normally hear it over the loud squealing turbo's.
I'm really waiting and hoping on his written tutorial on how to code engines. I've played with the ones that he had pre-made, but I'm not very in-depth with computers. And the one video he has with a link I can't follow too well.
Me too. I wanna make a Skoda 1.2 HTP engine, but the lack of tutorial is one of the thing, which prevents me from doing it. The other one is lack of required data and knowledge about the mentioned engine. I only know, that Skoda 1.2 HTP is a 3 cylinder gas operated engine and it has 44kW of power.
Funny how it is based on a BMW 6 pot engine. No wonder the volumetric efficiency is so off with these volumes. This would need more stroke. And probably different camshaft/valve angles.
to be fair this engine is only three quaters the size of those engines and in this sim theyre made from obamium obviously making them indestructable .-.
@@indeedDE01 No, you're right. They are 16L V8's. My point, although admittedly put in a strange manner is that most ships don't use the big cathedral engines that run at 85 rpm. Most ships use smaller engines with rpm's ranging from about 150 to 500 for mid range and up to 1800 for diesel electric ships.
sweet. i just looked at some videos about ship engines because of this, the real deal ones have no transmission and connect directly to the prop, they run at more like 75 rpms
So I ended up actually making that GE V16 I mentioned before (175.1L), however, I can't seem to add any mass to the engine otherwise the sim breaks. As in, the physics dies. Do you mind if I see your MR file for this ship engine to compare?
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the fact that this engine is 1336L of displacement and is running at 13,3 AFR at full throttle means it burns 1 liter of fuel every second. fun fact of the day :)
Make ships electric, not cars! lol
@@euro_rfx4499 most big ones are. They just have a powerplant built in ;)
@@euro_rfx4499 all that lithium is gonna be a real fire hazard not to mention unpractical recharging times
@@Fierywell Yeah that's why you use marine nuclear reactors.
@@centralintelligenceagency9003 exactly
Dyno run of this thing would be pretty sick.
torque: yes
power: maybe
Would love to see that
@@GewelReal Torque is power
5 minutes later...
@@christianlabanca5377 times rpm / 5252
nice throttle response
Large engine = slower throttle
Wait until you see how long does it take to ramp up an industrial gas turbine.
Lmao
@@dy7296turbine engines probably have one of the worst throttle response compared to a reciprocating engine of the same size
About 3-5 buisness days 😂
This vibrated my room and made holding my hand in front of the subwoofer port feel like holding it near the exhaust of a car
I now have to play this in my car and crank up the sub
Holy fuck, you’re not joking, I have two Pioneer 12”s in my truck, those bad boys were _moving!_ Had to turn the volume down 😂
Glad I use headphones for once
Anyways, this sounds like someone’s heart rate went through the roof with all those deep bangs
Just for the record, actual 6-cylinder low-speed engines in ships are two-stroke and have a firing order of 1-6-2-4-3-5.
Actually 1-5-3-6-2-4, easiest way to remember is too young too old just right
@@sling6896 Read my comment again.
@@electric7487 Read their comment again.
@@Quasar0406 Yes, and the firing order they gave is for most FOUR-STROKE inline-sixes. The firing order I gave is for a TWO-STROKE inline-six.
@@electric7487 yeah but you don't specifically explain that the firing order is unique to being a two stroke which causes that misunderstanding. "Read my comment again" does not grant clairvoyance or mind reading.
one of my favorite things about naval engines like this is how slow the combustion is. Some real life ones are so large you can walk on the cylinder heads, so sticking a camera with a recessed quartz viewport in a cylinder head is actually somewhat of an effective solution to visual inspection, but good golly its not an explosion in there, its a very intense and admittedly quite rapid burn of some xtra thick fuel oil spray!
Yep. Detonation will destroy any engine but one that large it'd be like a fuel/air bomb going off. You do NOT want one to ping!
@@TestECull dude wtf its a Diesel...
There is no such thing as ping or knock in a diesel engine.
@@alouisschafer7212 All pinging/ignition knocking is is combustion not taking place smoothly. Detonation is the most accurate term. You can have detonation in a diesel engine.
Part of why ether is so bad for them. It doesn't burn very smoothly at all, it just explodes in there.
@@TestECull you cant really control that in a Diesel...
Fuel is Injected at the right moment and it it goes kaboom thats it.
Cetane Rating of the Fuel factors into how a Diesel runs but what is the Cetane rating of heavy fuel oil?
10...20? On Road Diesel is atleast 50 I think
@@alouisschafer7212 It still happens and it can still fuck the engine up. Most diesels are designed in such a way as to encourage a smooth burn as much as possible; absolute best case scenario the knocking just makse a lot of clatter and loss of power as you hear in some IDI engines. Examples of this can be found in 84-96 F250, F350 diesel, and anythign based on that platform as the engines International supplied Ford were HORRIBLE about diesel knock and sounded like a bag of hammers falling down a steel staircase when everything was working perfectly. The 6.9 and 7.3 IDIs were so noisy that you can be forgiven for not hearing rod or crank knocking in them over the totally normal ignition knocking!
I will give credit; those engines seem to last forever knocking like that. But all that clatter is just power lost to noise.
Also why ether is such a bad idea. It detonates, rather than burns, no matter what you do in there. It is known to blow intake manifolds clean off when an intake heater is used as a cold start aid(And sometimes glow plugs, too, if it ignites with an intake valve still open). It is known to crack pistons, break rings, damage valves, cause all sorts of hell because that stuff just does not know how to burn smoothly in a diesel engine. Generally, if you're having to reach for the ether to get it started, it's either A: plumb wore the fuck out or B: you need to fix whatever cold start aid it has already and isn't working.
Wow, I didn't even think to make industrial-type engines. You should definitely test something like this with the turbo mod. I'd love to test out some train engines like the V16 in a GE Dash 9-44CW
haha cpu fan go brrrr
I wanna hear a 16-cyl two-stroke EMD, lol (I've worked on them in real life, they are VERY loud).
@@NoeticSystem But extremely reliable too, those EMDs
Would be cool to see a deltic in this.
Yessss!
I'm so happy seeing other content creators using Ange's program, blew my mind when I saw his vid on it and there's been a lot of cool "engine showcases" that come from it
The fuel volume counter scares me
and thats actually how much fuel they use irl
Very big engine for very big boat shipping hopefully a lot of things to make the fuel-per-thing amount okay
It's like healthcare in the USA.
@@KeterMalkuth Why is efficient transportation scary to you? Do you have other extremely uncommon phobias?
Is incredible how precise is the sound engine created by Agne
I love how this engine is so loud that it distorts the audio. Honestly, that's pretty freaking realistic. These engines really are loud.
My whole country was shaking with the bass being generated from this engine and my subwoofer setup. I am pleased with this outcome
If you are wondering, yes it's totally worth getting your headphones out to hear this
Listening to this with headphones on somewhat high volume makes it feel like you're in the engine room.
I love how the fuel usage meter is literally going faster than a gas pump at full throttle.
Ahhh yes the BMW M52B13360 engine. Indisputably the best of the M52s
How much torque does this engine make?
Ship engine maker: *yes*
At least 3
My uncel worked on a large ship when he was younger. They once had to stop for a little over 20 hours due to repairs, once the repairs was done they had to rev up the engine a whole FIVE rpm to make up the time. They whent about 15 to 20% faster but fuel consumption DOUBLED as they whent from 50 rpm to 55 but the cost for the fuel wich was essentially asphalt tar was much cheeper than the penalty for being a dsy late, and they burned METRIC TONES more to make up the time
Massive crank, Itty-bitty bore
I LOVE IT
Not so much just the crank, but also really long conrods, which improves torque.
The bore is so narrow that it must use a crosshead conrod and not a trunk conrod. If its the latter, it would just slam itself to the cylinder wall. The crosshead would also eliminate uneven force on the cylinder wall as the conrod is maintained in a parallel direction to the force. And in a crosshead conrod, you can split the chambers and not have any blowby by simply connecting the piston in another chamber to the crosshead to the other chamber. This setup is used on a two stroke cycle uniflow scavange large diesel engine. The back of the piston would pressurize the air when it is going down until it reaches the ports and sends it to the top of the piston. When the piston goes up for the compression, the back of the piston creates a vacuum, assisting the blow for charging air.
The crankcase is unaffected and can have a close loop lubrication as only the rod connects the piston and crosshead together.
Let me just drop the clutch and bang through some gears with my ship engine
1 minute no-turbo turbo lag
Just wait until that vtec kicks in bro
@@KontrolYT oh yes, the all new Honda k13000
Always wondered about the design of ship engines, given that incredible low grumble they make. This is peak content. 👌🏼
Full exhaust system sound simulation would be just great with this!🤩
or this with a supercharger.
Oh my... The bass! This is sic! 🤪 It's like music... just better 😅
Loving the tongue-in-cheek name you gave this engine
No, the engine sim includes a few different engines, a Chevrolet 454ci V8, a Kohler 750 2 cyl (lawnmower), an Audi Inline 4, and this Bimmer I6. The creator of this video chose to modify the BMW engine, probably to use the Inline 6 model.
@@retro.mp4558 exactly, the i6 bmw was the basis for this since it was my first engine.
@@retro.mp4558 whatever. still like to imagine he implies the M52 is for boats
@@indeedDE01 BMW originally made plane engines so try simulating a radial plane engine made by BMW next
Still waiting too see this level of sound detail in a game, or even just this project in a demo
I still want to know if this project could be adapted to run in beam,ng. have beamng feed the engine composition and user input to this software, then this software feeds engine output to the vehicle through a two way API. A simulator for a simulator as it were.
i am no developer but it should work in theory, however i can imagine it either just running very poorly or just on specialized rigs that cost 3&1/2 kidneys
@@buddhaman001 even if its just a mod
Sounds amazingly accurate at full throttle
I just have one question about this engine:
Will it fit in my Neon?
If you believe enough.
No, but it will fit your 1996 Honda Civic
Will it fit in my s2000?
@@isaacsrandomvideos667 Yes, with minor engine mount modifiactions
Actually, will the neon fit in the engine?
Can't wait to see the wartsila sulzer rta96-c in game
Game developers should use this software to generate engine sounds.
Love how long it takes to wind down after closing the throttle
I'll take an uneducated guess and say that it's momentum.
I was always wondering :
When the engine starts, how can we be sure it will spin in the good direction as the rods are vertical ?
its the easy part: you dont
@@indeedDE01 But isn't the boat just going to move backward x) ?
You can try to give bias via a starter motor
Starter motor
Some of the big engines use air blown into a cylinder as the starter. You have a small electric motor, or manual crank, that puts the engine in position so it turns the right way.
By the same idea some of them reverse the engine rotation to reverse the ship. That’s why it can take a while to change direction. You have to bring the engine to a stop, then position it, then start it again in reverse.
For as cool as this is, seems that the tool was simply not designed with such 'slow rotating' engines in mind.
I can confirm that the sound is pretty accurate as vessel automation engineer
So i think we all want to hear the Wartsila Sulzer RTA96-C i14 1828.7L 2 stroke right?
yea, unfortunately twostrokes arent supported yet, or are they?
i tried, they're not possible as of right now unless theres someone who figures it out
25,592 Liters of awesomeness!
the sound of it sounds like it makes crazy shockwaves
i wouldnt be surprised at that displacement
I have trouble making parts this big without the application grenading. How much mass does your parts have?
around 50 inertia and roughly 400kg's of mass but you can just look into the engine file
love the negative volumetric efficiency
so it's a BMW M52 engine, bored and stroked to 1300 L 😀
when you break it down to the simplest bits, yes
Bro be flexing in the straight pipe Titanic
70$ og gas in 30 seconds
this is new! hope we see more stuff like this. maybe in the future there will be steam engine simulator?
it would be interesting to see specific ship engines too
"I'm afraid thats all she's got Cap'n, any more and she'll fall apart!"
The torque oughta be insane with those chonky pistons and heavy crank
can this simulator sim 2-strokes
most of these ship engines are 2-stroke diesel
unfortunately not yet, I'm waiting for a good 2 stroke sound simulation too 😍
i'm really hoping to see two strokes soon, since opposed piston engines like the Leyland L60 are two strokes aswell and I would love to make one of those...
@@indeedDE01 technically you could make 2 stroke engine if you adjust the timings of firing and valve openings but idk if I or anyone could do it to run and produce decent HP and lb-ft
@@rickorso The detroit 2 strokes are gonna sound crazy 😍
@@CreeplayEU Modelling two-stroker would require fairly high-resolution and computationally expensive fluid dynamics to accurately simulate what happens inside intake and exhaust manifolds. If I understood Ange's video correctly, the software currently only does a rough approximation within the cylinder, and takes a shortcut in form of high and low pass filters to simulate the exhaust.
Nice mpg you got there sir
GPM*
Ah, nothing like ridiculous amounts of BASS to keep one awake halfway through the day XD
the stroker kits for the m52b28 gone crazy ngl
I love how leisurely it is lol
This makes so much sound coming out of my subwoofer I'm convinced if I held a metal pipe up to it it would sound like a real exhaust pipe
I love how it takes like 5 years to get to redline
Ooooh this is beautiful. Best engine sim I've heard so far.
i like how the rpm goes down when the throttle goes up
This thing’s displacement is more than an Olympic swimming pool
Displacement: Atlantic Ocean
I like how the scale is so nuts the cam lobes aren't even a full pixel on my screen
miata owners will find a way
Now we need the sequel, 100L raft engine.
Someone: You can't see torque
*This video at 216 RPM
thats the great thing about these engines, usually when you see something spinning you wanna touch that (if it isnt just me) but these engines make you wanna keep distance from the moving parts
i did not search for this but i am happy now
glad to know i got the attention of youtube's algorithm now :D
Fedde Kreuzfahrt Herr Kaleu
Damn that BMW M52B28 really burns a lot of fuel
imagine how much torque the starter needs
in real life these engines are being started with pressurized air
@@indeedDE01 interesting
Marine propulsion engines are started with 28bar pressurized air distributed to each cylinder according to the firing order.
RPM is a little high, Most ships I worked on the top speed of the Slow Speeds was around 105 RPM's.
The ability to almost hear each individual compression and ignition is correct, when standing on top of the Engine you can feel when each cylinder would have combustion. just couldn't normally hear it over the loud squealing turbo's.
i can hear my ground shaking when the revs go up
Well dude if that was up on the app store for a few bucks I'd definitely pay for it 👍
A dyno run with one of these bad boys would take around 5 business days to complete with how long it takes for the engine to redline lol
Kind of reminds me of big ass Cabal engines in some of their installations in d2.
„BMW M52B28“ thats what i want in my BMW
Just a question, how much torque?
Yes
All
this makes my klipsch sub happy
Bustin makes me feel good
Engine startup sounds like sawing through timber
That's the biggest m52b28 ive ever seen
A wonderful BMW M52B28 Engine XD
That's one hell of an m52 stroker 😂
wow, engine swap time! Should fit nicely in my E30 or one of the E34's
you seem the typa guy who would simulate a Porsche typ 100 tank engine
Honestly music to my ears
I'm really waiting and hoping on his written tutorial on how to code engines. I've played with the ones that he had pre-made, but I'm not very in-depth with computers. And the one video he has with a link I can't follow too well.
Me too. I wanna make a Skoda 1.2 HTP engine, but the lack of tutorial is one of the thing, which prevents me from doing it. The other one is lack of required data and knowledge about the mentioned engine. I only know, that Skoda 1.2 HTP is a 3 cylinder gas operated engine and it has 44kW of power.
Funny how it is based on a BMW 6 pot engine. No wonder the volumetric efficiency is so off with these volumes. This would need more stroke. And probably different camshaft/valve angles.
Most ship engines only operate at a max of 85rpm but this is neat
to be fair this engine is only three quaters the size of those engines and in this sim theyre made from obamium obviously making them indestructable .-.
idk, ours run at up to 1800rpm
@@Rossie1450 then its not a 2000L two stroke ship diesel but more likely a MTU 2000 series engine or similar.
@@Rossie1450 is the ship your on 1800l in displacement?
@@indeedDE01 No, you're right. They are 16L V8's. My point, although admittedly put in a strange manner is that most ships don't use the big cathedral engines that run at 85 rpm. Most ships use smaller engines with rpm's ranging from about 150 to 500 for mid range and up to 1800 for diesel electric ships.
bro ran the engine for less than 2 minutes and used 234 dollars worth of fuel
Hope the prop is balanced.
I Love the sound at end(Decreasing rpm and ignition rate) i wonder if that engine was 1 cylinder engine..
its just a beefed up standard BMW engine that came with the sim
Fascinating rate of fuel consumption!!
Ooh, could you make a simulation of the Ford Barra Inline 6???
possibly
sweet. i just looked at some videos about ship engines because of this, the real deal ones have no transmission and connect directly to the prop, they run at more like 75 rpms
yea, those vids inspired this engine
It costs 30$ to run this engine... for 12 seconds!
You know what suprised me the least, that you are German, or atleast speak German. Great Video, really interesting Project.
i am infact german
Can't wait to see some fit this thing into a miata
Imagine a gas-powered, 1300L 4-Stoke... Thing...
This is more exciting than those stupid fast engines in cars. ❤
i also figured: why does anyone build engines that they can also make in automation? why not think *BIGGER*
I love the sound
Is it just me or does it kind of sound like a body glitching out in a source game
fits in a miata
Torque: YES.
Torque: *enough*
Sounds like a ferry boat.
well it is based on a 2000L ship engine
Dang! that bass.
that throttle response tho
How about a nitro rc engine next?
So I ended up actually making that GE V16 I mentioned before (175.1L), however, I can't seem to add any mass to the engine otherwise the sim breaks. As in, the physics dies. Do you mind if I see your MR file for this ship engine to compare?
not at all
Is somebody going to build the Wartsila? That monster is 25,592L and generates over 100,000HP at just 120RPM.