Galu did not mention this, but it's worth knowing that you get visual upgrades for all of your units, except for the Vineyard units I believe, if you side with the Elves. The Thorn units, the Dorwinion Infantry, and the High Paladins will be armored in tasteful golden chainmail and plate armour with purple liveries. They also get elven weapons, even the Thorn Crossbowmen and Patroller units with elven crossbows! The Avari Elves, of course, do get visual upgrades into golden plate armour as well, but they don't get helmets...? Do the Avari have no sense of self-preservation? Who knows. I think the Avari Shadows don't get golden armor, I'm not sure. The Human path is limited in visual upgrades to the units you unlock, and even then only a small portion of them. I believe *only* the Regent units get upgraded into Byzantine-looking armor, and that's it. Though that does not take away from them looking fantastic; the golden-purple armies of Elves and Northmen are much more appealing to me.
As a side note, I believe the Dorwinion infantry becomes a wholly elven unit (as in the unit models change from human to elves) once you upgrade to Avarin plate.
@@joshmason6597 Hm, I've always thought it was obvious that the people with the helmets were human and those with the hoods were the elves. But hey! Believe what you will! That's the beauty of it.
Moroquendi units has such sexy armor design, and reading this I want to make a Dowrinion campaign :D Only issue is that the armsmen (human 2-h swordmen) looked really cool, but they are human path only, so I won't see them in that elven armor-upgrade :/
My one major issue with Dorwinion's design is that the human path late game units look way too similar to dale's, the paladins and the eorls use the exact same model except for the helmet
You have such a lovely voice and way to talk. Its always such a blast just to listen to your vids. If you would do audiobooks I would listen to every single one of them :)
AG: Unfortunate, Dorwinion is the first Nation in these Videos that has to many units for a single army Me: *Looks at the Norther Dunedain* You sure about that?
@@maxgrozema1093 some sort of subjegation of rohan option would be pretty interesting considering their lore. and maybe some kind of theft of technology if they either take orthanc or for example saruman teaches them how to build cities after they take out bree. i understand why the restriction is placed upon wild men with their city size but thats a kinda annoying thing to me
A reward for wiping out Rohan would be cool. Maybe a berserkr style unit wearing random parts of Rohirric gear, similiar to orc avengers with their dwarven equipment. Or remember the celtic head hurlers from Rome1? Head hurlers would fit perfect into Dunland.
@@baumgartnerrogerr I was thinking that you also could do some things stats wise, like increasing the mass of certain dunlending units to show they can hold out against cavalry charges.
20:57 "..they are people after all, but they're not good people." So what are they, criminals? Free Peoples trash? ;o) Also, loved the crossbow ranting. Gave me a good chuckle.
Appreciate the link mate! Looking forward to showing off all the new updates to Dorwinion for the community! I honestly think the script being tied to Mornedhel is such a big improvement for these elf boys
Oooooh that's why my campaign was going so well. See I thought "Well, those Rhun blokes might be trouble, better get them on side so I can focus on expansion for the time being" And then our relations just kept improving and we never became enemies.
suggestion. make available humen and elven units at the same time with, whatever you chose(let say humen) elven units will be available in only 1 settlement with long replenishment, like 20 turns after boost's (if there are any in v5). It will make truly Hybrid Nation
Nurwe also has a custom bodyguard. You forgot to mention it, but it’s Moriquendi Sentinals I believe. Also, they can train farmhand pikemen as another trash infantry unit
Farmhand pikes are absolutely not trash, though. As long as they don't get shot, they can hold the line very well, especially if you can get some upgrades on them.
I find the dorwinion roster to be among the best out there: you get all the fodder and militia you want AND the power of elves. I never had issues keeping my armies replenished, which is a constant issue with pure elven factions. Overall, EXTREMELY versatile roster
I love Crossbowmen and Any unit that is effective against armor, great for anti general or anti heavily armoured unit. Crossbows even do crazy damage against Mumakil, Trolls and Great Beats which are heavily armored
Athelhere is really a good general. Only thing is that you need a boat to get him off the island. So you wait basically for 20 turns until he becomes useful
Having to wait until the 15th turn to train a boat is annoying, for sure. I tend to just cheat move him over to Caras Sant so he can command an army and swap in a governor.
Hello friend. Yesterday, you told us about giving the Nazgul a themed bodyguard, to reflect their origin, ex. the Haradrim Ringwraiths having Haradrim bodyguard, the Khandish one a Khandish unit etc. I find it quite good, as it recalls the Shadow Knights of Khamul. Yes, I am very fond of it. The Numenoreans can keep their Dark Numenoream units, but it would be cool to see other units with the Nazgul, as it would be a great political weapon for Sauron to show that all humans are under his reign and authority. But I would choose only the best unit, as the Nazgul would not intervene with anything less than the most capable and better equiped. I think they will be really cool in silver and black, like Khamul's own bodyguard. As for weapons, I am of the opinion to have either strike infantry units or sword-and-board units if you don't go for cavalry, as these weapons fit better with the whole bodyguard issue (personal opinion, of course). Of course, I will welcome whatever the DaC team decides. But I will be happy if I read your reaction- as I barely have any response by you. PS: I find interesting the weapon choice of the Thorn Guard. This weapon is a swordstuff, a very powerful two-handed medieval weapon, which is, as everyone guesses, a halberd. Also, nice the choice of the greatswords to the strike infantry. Well done, it adds variety. I like it and I hope to keep them in v5.
They seem to be turtle: the faction. Garrison those bridges, send your best pot dealer out to the Shire, build as much as possible and break the enemy upon your bridge crossings
Your videos always make me happy Galu! I don’t really play DAC anymore as I don’t have time for it but I still watch your videos because they’re so pleasant. Thank you
As a person who absolutely loves the mounted crossbowmen, I always feel bad for them when Arachir lambasts them so mercilessly in the unit description. They are beautiful boys just trying their best xD
Hey Galu, love the videos and the mod. Appreciate all the work that goes into DAC. I've enjoyed the faction overviews, I'm glad they're back. A lot has been made about some of the difficulty ratings, I like having them in the faction overviews. I think they're a useful tool in deciding what factions to play. It is my opinion the rating system could be improved by taking a survey of your beta testers. Average up the difficulty ratings they give and use those for the scores in your faction overviews. Obviously you can't personally play every faction, the beta testers are a tremendous resource in that respect. Their opinions could greatly improve the accuracy of the difficulty ratings.
I once had a D&D campaign with a pair of NPCs, twins, named Dor and Rho. One was always drinking, and the other liked horse-riding and hunting. It took my group like *six months* to figure out the reference.
Another faction which is really easy to perform regicide is the goblins. I have played two campaigns in the last two weeks and managed to do so twice. I wasn't even trying tbh haha
Dorwinion are in my top 3 favourite factions to play as with the Woodland Realm and N.D. The Mornedhel (?) addition is welcome and interesting. I look forward to it's development!
Now that you mention the Plague mechanic.. Would it be possible (and interesting) to use it as a feature? For example, when the Witch-King or Sauron returns, certain factions will be hit by the Plague. I don't know wether it's possible to rename te debuff. That'll give you more freedom then. It's just very unsettling to see the map slowly getting covered in disease. Maybe you could make some factions immune? Or make them receive a buff instead of a debuff. Lore-wise it's a stretch but there is some precedent; corruption of Mirkwood and Fangorn for example. Could be interesting to consider I think.
I use the mounted crossbows in groups with supporting cav to chase down small enemy units. Once they have used all their bolts I retreat them off the battlefield. I found this to be very effective. Later I use them en-mass in a similar manner attackng main armies to wear them down / slow them down. Retraining or combining as is best suited.
Modern militaries (especially those modelled after the Prussian model, e.g. FDF, Bundeswehr etc.) put a lot of effort into esprit de corps. Typically, every unit has something distinguishable about it and has some sense of tradition. Even if you are in a logistics/support unit filled with asthmatics and people with
are there any invasion events? im only just now getting reacquainted with the mod and im thinking, it would be cool if when playing as a good faction, if the ring is not destroyed in x amount of turns, several evil factions get a global upkeep reduction or free spawns or something. i hadn't played in a while but i remember finding winning rather inevitable as the high elves and gondor once you get the ball rolling. no matter how good you do, if you dont destroy the ring it should get incredibly hard late game.
It does. Every tier of armor upgrade changes units a bit. It's so in pretty much every Medieval 2 mod and vanilla too it's thing for every single unit. There are exceptions but very few.
@@tommy-od8wl My knowledge of Chad is that it does not mean great guy and is actually a rather derogatory word for someone who eschews knowledge and the furtherance of study for athletic gain and "notches on their bed post".
Dorwinion Armsmen and High Paladins would all be good for being mixed units I would think. Honestly with how close the Avari Warriors and the Armsmen are in function, you might replace the Warriors with something else. If I remember right you were saying the Armsmen would be for either choice in V5. If you were willing to add in another unit, perhaps a hybrid ranged unit? That way your trash and low tier is pure human, mid tier is hybrid and your elites being one direction or the other.
Okay but WHY are Crossbows useless? Just cause they take too long to shoot? But their bolts still hit and kill and having missile attack of *7* so early is insane is it not? What about Blacklock Engineers and Hand of The Guard? Those units are super good aren’t they?
I dont know why people think elven choice much better, slow recruitment, worse economy, but 2 elite units, compared to a human choice where you get more units that are much more avaliable than elves, best cav in faction, ecejomy boost, and most important, cuz of faster replenishment you can swarm enemies. I just donr understand why is elven choice so heavily favoured, if 2 human players played 1v1 (one with human choice and one with elven), human choice would wipe elven easily.
because elves are cool duh and you are just playing against AI so you can just choose what you want and have fun. Also elves have a reputation of being vastly superior to humans so if you just think about which unit is better and not about the whole campaign or you don't know about it, you might choose elves.
Because if a person wants to play a wealthy, civilized, infantry heavy faction, they can play Gondor, or Ered Luin, or a number of other reasonably similar factions. However a faction that has rare, valuable, Elven elites that can be protected and supported by cheap, readily available human chaff is unique to Dorwinion. It isn't about what is best, it is about what is most fun and interesting. DaC isn't a competition, it's a piece of entertainment.
Playing guess the faction here: Rhun? Who better to pair up with Dorwinion. Oh, honestly when I saw the chariots I assumed it was definitely Rhun. Didn't know Enedwaith had one.
I dont think that Innas Rim would actually defeat Paladins in 1v1, they dont get anti cav bonuses and they sec attack is probably around 7, compared with 12 of the Paladins. Maybe if they get charge in the back.
Maybe he's confusing the Innas Rim with the old bodyguard unit of Rhûn which had an effective against cavalry bonus. I haven't checked Rhûn recently, but if the Innas Rim don't have an effective against cavalry bonus then the Paladins should easily defeat them. I'd say Rhûns units are good, but not as good as you'd think they are (what with all that gold).
Bit of a contradiction, ingame it says the elves are the side of peace and discord, humans the side of conquest and war. But the unique buildings reflect the oposite, elves get the military buildings and humans get the wine eco
Also the elvish two handed warrior has more armour than the humans two handed equivalent, despite the human wearing a helmet and shield on their back. Elves should have higher armor skill but less armor, their damage should also be higher than the humans, especially since they cost much more than the humans.
Not really? Elves wish to end this war as soon as possible. Humans wish to end the war while becoming richer in the process. So the choice is if you want to be the blade or provide the sinews of war.
Is it just me or are there way more human troop? Presumably, if you picked the humans you’d have an advantage because you could choose to field units on a continuum of cheep to expensive while with the elves you would always have to use expensive units.
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There are more human troops and it is for that very reason. The elves are few but elite and the humans are numerous but weaker.
I just played myself so badly This was my first play through with this faction and I saw rune starts with a massive army right next to my border I decided to ally them and build up my economy and turtle a bit Thinking I am safe, I decide to go through rune with my 2 full stack armies, that push my economy to its limits, to attack mordor from the back and save Gondor. So 15 turns later I attack mordor but forget that rune would break their alliance with me. My homelands were empty, all my men were in mordor. Time to restart and not dance around rune. If anyone has any advice for rune, I would be most greatful. That full stack is very intimidating right off the bat.
It's kind of sad when random collections of fans from the internet have done more work to try to expand upon the foundation talking left than his own family. I don't mean consolidate and polish edit for publishing years or decades after his death. I mean actually do some work and expand their father's vision which he never stopped working on, and would have wanted to continue to grow and expand. Is this mod different from third age reforged? I'm completely out of the loop because I never reinstalled this amazing mod on my new rig and then got caught up in other games but I'm interested in some Lord of the rings Total War again. Why did the wineries not have more tiers? I remember at least in the version of third age that I used to play the map was relatively empty , It had all the major landmarks of course. But the land just seemed to be huge swaths of territory where it would take like two turns to cross or more before you actually reached another tiny settlement , the world just seemed really empty. Has that been addressed? I see that you are all working on creating more diversity of factions which is always a big plus in my book.
If you are interested in some V5 Dorwinion action, then do check out Sir Augimund's new Let's Play:
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Galu since you hate crossbows then you'll love Ered Luin
Holy shit version five looks very interesting
Trains boats 😂😂😂 good one 👍
Who would win: The Darklord of Mordor or some grape lads sneakin' through the backdoor?
"They are people, after all, but they are just not very good people"
-Arachîr Galudirithon, 2020
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@@wickedheart8201 jesus
@@wickedheart8201 Arachir retired so dont worry, fellow human.
Galu did not mention this, but it's worth knowing that you get visual upgrades for all of your units, except for the Vineyard units I believe, if you side with the Elves. The Thorn units, the Dorwinion Infantry, and the High Paladins will be armored in tasteful golden chainmail and plate armour with purple liveries. They also get elven weapons, even the Thorn Crossbowmen and Patroller units with elven crossbows! The Avari Elves, of course, do get visual upgrades into golden plate armour as well, but they don't get helmets...? Do the Avari have no sense of self-preservation? Who knows. I think the Avari Shadows don't get golden armor, I'm not sure.
The Human path is limited in visual upgrades to the units you unlock, and even then only a small portion of them. I believe *only* the Regent units get upgraded into Byzantine-looking armor, and that's it. Though that does not take away from them looking fantastic; the golden-purple armies of Elves and Northmen are much more appealing to me.
As a side note, I believe the Dorwinion infantry becomes a wholly elven unit (as in the unit models change from human to elves) once you upgrade to Avarin plate.
@@joshmason6597 Hm, I've always thought it was obvious that the people with the helmets were human and those with the hoods were the elves. But hey! Believe what you will! That's the beauty of it.
Moroquendi units has such sexy armor design, and reading this I want to make a Dowrinion campaign :D Only issue is that the armsmen (human 2-h swordmen) looked really cool, but they are human path only, so I won't see them in that elven armor-upgrade :/
The regent bow guard aren’t even using their shields but hey
My one major issue with Dorwinion's design is that the human path late game units look way too similar to dale's, the paladins and the eorls use the exact same model except for the helmet
You have such a lovely voice and way to talk. Its always such a blast just to listen to your vids. If you would do audiobooks I would listen to every single one of them :)
He does do Lore videos which in a way are similar to audio books, short stories if you will :)
AG: Unfortunate, Dorwinion is the first Nation in these Videos that has to many units for a single army
Me: *Looks at the Norther Dunedain*
You sure about that?
I think Dunland deserves something new and interesting in future versions. When compared to Enedwaith, they are simply a very undesirable faction.
Dunland, Enedwaith and Moria are a bit left behind. But how could you make dunland more interesting, or any of those factions?
@@maxgrozema1093 some sort of subjegation of rohan option would be pretty interesting considering their lore. and maybe some kind of theft of technology if they either take orthanc or for example saruman teaches them how to build cities after they take out bree. i understand why the restriction is placed upon wild men with their city size but thats a kinda annoying thing to me
A reward for wiping out Rohan would be cool. Maybe a berserkr style unit wearing random parts of Rohirric gear, similiar to orc avengers with their dwarven equipment. Or remember the celtic head hurlers from Rome1? Head hurlers would fit perfect into Dunland.
They are pretty fine the way they are right now in my opinion, they get some pretty good units later on in the game.
@@baumgartnerrogerr I was thinking that you also could do some things stats wise, like increasing the mass of certain dunlending units to show they can hold out against cavalry charges.
20:57 "..they are people after all, but they're not good people."
So what are they, criminals? Free Peoples trash? ;o)
Also, loved the crossbow ranting. Gave me a good chuckle.
Gamers
Reminds me more of penal battalions
Appreciate the link mate! Looking forward to showing off all the new updates to Dorwinion for the community! I honestly think the script being tied to Mornedhel is such a big improvement for these elf boys
Clever pun. But, you’re right, it did lose something when explained. With such things, lest is more....
Oooooh that's why my campaign was going so well. See I thought "Well, those Rhun blokes might be trouble, better get them on side so I can focus on expansion for the time being" And then our relations just kept improving and we never became enemies.
Exidental allies
Peaceterling hippies.
suggestion. make available humen and elven units at the same time with, whatever you chose(let say humen) elven units will be available in only 1 settlement with long replenishment, like 20 turns after boost's (if there are any in v5). It will make truly Hybrid Nation
Nurwe also has a custom bodyguard. You forgot to mention it, but it’s Moriquendi Sentinals I believe.
Also, they can train farmhand pikemen as another trash infantry unit
Farmhand pikes are absolutely not trash, though. As long as they don't get shot, they can hold the line very well, especially if you can get some upgrades on them.
Farmhands decimate enemies in defensive sieges
I find the dorwinion roster to be among the best out there: you get all the fodder and militia you want AND the power of elves. I never had issues keeping my armies replenished, which is a constant issue with pure elven factions. Overall, EXTREMELY versatile roster
I love Crossbowmen and Any unit that is effective against armor, great for anti general or anti heavily armoured unit.
Crossbows even do crazy damage against Mumakil, Trolls and Great Beats which are heavily armored
Athelhere is really a good general. Only thing is that you need a boat to get him off the island. So you wait basically for 20 turns until he becomes useful
Mercenary cogs saves your day
Having to wait until the 15th turn to train a boat is annoying, for sure. I tend to just cheat move him over to Caras Sant so he can command an army and swap in a governor.
Hello friend. Yesterday, you told us about giving the Nazgul a themed bodyguard, to reflect their origin, ex. the Haradrim Ringwraiths having Haradrim bodyguard, the Khandish one a Khandish unit etc. I find it quite good, as it recalls the Shadow Knights of Khamul. Yes, I am very fond of it. The Numenoreans can keep their Dark Numenoream units, but it would be cool to see other units with the Nazgul, as it would be a great political weapon for Sauron to show that all humans are under his reign and authority. But I would choose only the best unit, as the Nazgul would not intervene with anything less than the most capable and better equiped. I think they will be really cool in silver and black, like Khamul's own bodyguard. As for weapons, I am of the opinion to have either strike infantry units or sword-and-board units if you don't go for cavalry, as these weapons fit better with the whole bodyguard issue (personal opinion, of course). Of course, I will welcome whatever the DaC team decides. But I will be happy if I read your reaction- as I barely have any response by you.
PS: I find interesting the weapon choice of the Thorn Guard. This weapon is a swordstuff, a very powerful two-handed medieval weapon, which is, as everyone guesses, a halberd. Also, nice the choice of the greatswords to the strike infantry. Well done, it adds variety. I like it and I hope to keep them in v5.
They seem to be turtle: the faction. Garrison those bridges, send your best pot dealer out to the Shire, build as much as possible and break the enemy upon your bridge crossings
Your videos always make me happy Galu! I don’t really play DAC anymore as I don’t have time for it but I still watch your videos because they’re so pleasant. Thank you
As a person who absolutely loves the mounted crossbowmen, I always feel bad for them when Arachir lambasts them so mercilessly in the unit description. They are beautiful boys just trying their best xD
Hey Galu, love the videos and the mod. Appreciate all the work that goes into DAC. I've enjoyed the faction overviews, I'm glad they're back. A lot has been made about some of the difficulty ratings, I like having them in the faction overviews. I think they're a useful tool in deciding what factions to play. It is my opinion the rating system could be improved by taking a survey of your beta testers. Average up the difficulty ratings they give and use those for the scores in your faction overviews. Obviously you can't personally play every faction, the beta testers are a tremendous resource in that respect. Their opinions could greatly improve the accuracy of the difficulty ratings.
Asking is hard, just make a poll in the discord group.
Cheeky Pirates of the Caribbean reference there, Galu.
At what time ? (I'm not a native english speaker, sometimes, he speaks too fast)
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@@suyashbhagwat5615 Thanks ! I get it now :)
@@Lulu-my6ze You're welcome :)
Only found out about arachir recently, it's good stuff. Exciting overviews
I once had a D&D campaign with a pair of NPCs, twins, named Dor and Rho. One was always drinking, and the other liked horse-riding and hunting. It took my group like *six months* to figure out the reference.
Another faction which is really easy to perform regicide is the goblins. I have played two campaigns in the last two weeks and managed to do so twice. I wasn't even trying tbh haha
Same here, I just tried sniping generals and I won against them
Dorwinion are in my top 3 favourite factions to play as with the Woodland Realm and N.D. The Mornedhel (?) addition is welcome and interesting. I look forward to it's development!
Love your videos, so damn calming. Hope you are doing well whatever you are doing these days :)
Now that you mention the Plague mechanic.. Would it be possible (and interesting) to use it as a feature? For example, when the Witch-King or Sauron returns, certain factions will be hit by the Plague. I don't know wether it's possible to rename te debuff. That'll give you more freedom then. It's just very unsettling to see the map slowly getting covered in disease. Maybe you could make some factions immune? Or make them receive a buff instead of a debuff. Lore-wise it's a stretch but there is some precedent; corruption of Mirkwood and Fangorn for example. Could be interesting to consider I think.
I use the mounted crossbows in groups with supporting cav to chase down small enemy units. Once they have used all their bolts I retreat them off the battlefield. I found this to be very effective. Later I use them en-mass in a similar manner attackng main armies to wear them down / slow them down. Retraining or combining as is best suited.
If I ever get drafted and end up on the battlefield, I'm going to wonder,
"Am I in one of those trash units???"
Modern militaries (especially those modelled after the Prussian model, e.g. FDF, Bundeswehr etc.) put a lot of effort into esprit de corps. Typically, every unit has something distinguishable about it and has some sense of tradition. Even if you are in a logistics/support unit filled with asthmatics and people with
are there any invasion events? im only just now getting reacquainted with the mod and im thinking, it would be cool if when playing as a good faction, if the ring is not destroyed in x amount of turns, several evil factions get a global upkeep reduction or free spawns or something.
i hadn't played in a while but i remember finding winning rather inevitable as the high elves and gondor once you get the ball rolling. no matter how good you do, if you dont destroy the ring it should get incredibly hard late game.
Lol In my Dorwinion campaign I’m currently getting dp’d by Rhûn and Dol Guldur... The Elves, Dale, and Dwarves are doing nothing to help!!!
My guess is Enedwaith. They do not have many cavalry units, they have mostly brown armour and, most importantly, the chariots is a big give-away.
Whoo! Been waiting a long time for Enedwaith
Does the armor upgrade of some units effects their look on the battlefield?
Awesome video Arachir big CHAD
Big Chad?
It does. Every tier of armor upgrade changes units a bit. It's so in pretty much every Medieval 2 mod and vanilla too it's thing for every single unit. There are exceptions but very few.
@ It just means great guy
@@tommy-od8wl My knowledge of Chad is that it does not mean great guy and is actually a rather derogatory word for someone who eschews knowledge and the furtherance of study for athletic gain and "notches on their bed post".
@Arachîr Galudirithon just search Chad memes
Dorwinion Armsmen and High Paladins would all be good for being mixed units I would think. Honestly with how close the Avari Warriors and the Armsmen are in function, you might replace the Warriors with something else. If I remember right you were saying the Armsmen would be for either choice in V5. If you were willing to add in another unit, perhaps a hybrid ranged unit? That way your trash and low tier is pure human, mid tier is hybrid and your elites being one direction or the other.
Weirdly, I'm getting a vague Byzantine vibe from this faction. Nice
Whens Version 5 coming out loved playing this game since the first version was out
Okay but WHY are Crossbows useless? Just cause they take too long to shoot? But their bolts still hit and kill and having missile attack of *7* so early is insane is it not? What about Blacklock Engineers and Hand of The Guard? Those units are super good aren’t they?
never really understood the effect of a morale bonus. Does it give units an additional morale bonus like it is listed in the buildings?
Sebastiaan Besselink each unit has a set morale level and when you train a unit with that bonus present their morale level then goes up that amount
I dont know why people think elven choice much better, slow recruitment, worse economy, but 2 elite units, compared to a human choice where you get more units that are much more avaliable than elves, best cav in faction, ecejomy boost, and most important, cuz of faster replenishment you can swarm enemies. I just donr understand why is elven choice so heavily favoured, if 2 human players played 1v1 (one with human choice and one with elven), human choice would wipe elven easily.
because elves are cool duh and you are just playing against AI so you can just choose what you want and have fun. Also elves have a reputation of being vastly superior to humans so if you just think about which unit is better and not about the whole campaign or you don't know about it, you might choose elves.
And you get fancy new armour upgrades with the elves as well, makes your troops bright and shiny and golden
They have a cool color scheme. Fashion is more important than what's best, duh
Cause the elves don't die, you still have the human trash for that. Economy is irrelevant after defeating Rhun as you will be rich anyway.
Because if a person wants to play a wealthy, civilized, infantry heavy faction, they can play Gondor, or Ered Luin, or a number of other reasonably similar factions. However a faction that has rare, valuable, Elven elites that can be protected and supported by cheap, readily available human chaff is unique to Dorwinion. It isn't about what is best, it is about what is most fun and interesting. DaC isn't a competition, it's a piece of entertainment.
Cool faction
Playing guess the faction here: Rhun? Who better to pair up with Dorwinion.
Oh, honestly when I saw the chariots I assumed it was definitely Rhun. Didn't know Enedwaith had one.
how can you recruit avari elves? I'm going for turn 60 and I only have the ones that you get at the beginning ... Im not speak english 😅
Does anyone know what exactly Campaign and Battle AI difficulty changes in Divide and Conquer?
Campaign: the higher the difficulty, the less free money you receive every turn. Battle: enemies have increased morale
I dont think that Innas Rim would actually defeat Paladins in 1v1, they dont get anti cav bonuses and they sec attack is probably around 7, compared with 12 of the Paladins. Maybe if they get charge in the back.
I was about to say that, Paladins would slaughter Innas Rim
@@tich789 Galu is always overestimating Innas Rim.
Maybe he's confusing the Innas Rim with the old bodyguard unit of Rhûn which had an effective against cavalry bonus. I haven't checked Rhûn recently, but if the Innas Rim don't have an effective against cavalry bonus then the Paladins should easily defeat them.
I'd say Rhûns units are good, but not as good as you'd think they are (what with all that gold).
For me Rhun have very poor units i d&c because the other have better XD
Bit of a contradiction, ingame it says the elves are the side of peace and discord, humans the side of conquest and war. But the unique buildings reflect the oposite, elves get the military buildings and humans get the wine eco
Also the elvish two handed warrior has more armour than the humans two handed equivalent, despite the human wearing a helmet and shield on their back.
Elves should have higher armor skill but less armor, their damage should also be higher than the humans, especially since they cost much more than the humans.
Not really? Elves wish to end this war as soon as possible. Humans wish to end the war while becoming richer in the process. So the choice is if you want to be the blade or provide the sinews of war.
Is there a way to see all the ancillary id's for the mod?
Is it just me or are there way more human troop? Presumably, if you picked the humans you’d have an advantage because you could choose to field units on a continuum of cheep to expensive while with the elves you would always have to use expensive units.
There are more human troops and it is for that very reason. The elves are few but elite and the humans are numerous but weaker.
When Khand?
Yaya
Happy birthday Norway.
You have to do a overview abouth other Elven Factions .... i World like Woodland Elves (Thranduil) i think they are underrated
I just played myself so badly
This was my first play through with this faction and I saw rune starts with a massive army right next to my border
I decided to ally them and build up my economy and turtle a bit
Thinking I am safe, I decide to go through rune with my 2 full stack armies, that push my economy to its limits, to attack mordor from the back and save Gondor.
So 15 turns later I attack mordor but forget that rune would break their alliance with me.
My homelands were empty, all my men were in mordor.
Time to restart and not dance around rune. If anyone has any advice for rune, I would be most greatful. That full stack is very intimidating right off the bat.
When was this recorded? xD still very good tho!
I don't understand.
If you're referring to the planned changes - those are planned (I assume for version 5, which will be a good long while), not current.
I think the tripple boost for morewuendi units is bugget they give only 2 point of armour nd not 3 points of.armour
I can’t remember if you choose the elven choice do you still get “Avilyn? Is that right” as a general
Commander Sol nooo.. i was so close
@@commandersol932 so do you
It's kind of sad when random collections of fans from the internet have done more work to try to expand upon the foundation talking left than his own family. I don't mean consolidate and polish edit for publishing years or decades after his death. I mean actually do some work and expand their father's vision which he never stopped working on, and would have wanted to continue to grow and expand.
Is this mod different from third age reforged? I'm completely out of the loop because I never reinstalled this amazing mod on my new rig and then got caught up in other games but I'm interested in some Lord of the rings Total War again.
Why did the wineries not have more tiers?
I remember at least in the version of third age that I used to play the map was relatively empty , It had all the major landmarks of course. But the land just seemed to be huge swaths of territory where it would take like two turns to cross or more before you actually reached another tiny settlement , the world just seemed really empty. Has that been addressed? I see that you are all working on creating more diversity of factions which is always a big plus in my book.
Is it just me, or is Sant-Annuiiiiiiii a really funny name?🤪
It may be just you 😁
I get the feeling that you have beef with Milan in the vanilla game.
Well, it is common knowledge that Milan is the worst. ;o)
I personally love pavise crossbowmen, though.
Cool very early.
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Why would I do that? Who would do that?
Joe Nelly people who think others give a damn whether or not they were first or early to a video..
Early boat plz 😁👍
Due to all the brown im guessing enedwaith