Just another reason I'm grateful for your coverage of games. Found out last night that your videos soothe our 2 month old when he is upset late at night. So between that and my wife and i really enjoying your coverage of this and the Iliad, it turned to a really nice night. Just wanted to say love your coverage of games and thank you!
This looks much like a classic game and I imagine the pieces highlighting the spaces of the board they passed. But I also imagine getting AP making choices for this 😂
Mannnn I really like you two 😊 always excited to see you pop up on a new Kickstarter. Love how easy you make things seem, love your structure of teaching the game and then playing it, and I love your playful banter throughout! Thanks for making me unwittingly decide to purchase yet another game when I definitely don't need more 😅
This looks like a fun two player game. I’d like the idea of playing the game back to back with opposite sidesand having the difference in the two games determine the winner.
is the Hydra move at 8:20 a legal move? is that not the power of the minotaur? Apollo being "trapped" feels like only the Minotaur can move that way. I could have missed something though.
She moved Hydra from the right side of the board to the left side of the board. That is a normal/legal movement for any character. Minotaur's ability is to move off the edge of the board and re-enter from the opposite edge of the board - this is particularly useful if a figure is blocking your path/access to the opposite side of the board. Apollo was indeed trapped. An ability like Hermes (teleport), Hercules (push a figure), Minotaur (exit the edge), or Griffon (jump over a figure) would be the only way to escape in that scenario. Where Apollo doesn't have that ability, he is flat-out stuck.
Yeah, but that would increase the production cost and price of the game. For what it's worth, we've found that it takes maybe 10 second to flip all the tokens face-up during setup. From there, it's really smooth and easy to stack and unstack them as you lay them out and pick them up. You never really think about or use the other side once the game begins. :)
@@BitewingGames For this game in particular, double sided tokens would add a lot to the gameplay. Placing the tokens, removing the tokens, and placing once again can be annoying. I think there is too much randomness and chaos for the average board game player to table this more than once or twice. I like the way Iliad plays in comparison.
@@adamliny15 We’ve found a lot of replayability in Ichor and think it’s got some pretty solid legs. But we know not every game is for everyone. Sounds like Iliad may be the game of the 2 that best matches your preferences.
Maybe it’s because you’re sitting side by side, but removing and handing back tokens constantly seems annoying. But I think sitting across from each other and the figures being upright will make it better
We haven't noticed one in our testing. Often the second player can erase or flip the early lead that Player 1 gets, so it becomes a back and forth struggle of who is in the lead. Also, you play two games (once on each side) which both evens the playing field and makes for an interesting/evolving meta.
Mannnn I really like you two 😊 always excited to see you pop up on a new Kickstarter. Love how easy you make things seem, love your structure of teaching the game and then playing it, and I love your playful banter throughout! Thanks for making me unwittingly decide to purchase yet another game when I definitely don't need more 😅
Playtested this around 2 years ago and extremely happy to be finally backing the final product! Thank you for the great playthrough as usual.
Thanks for helping us test it! Always a long wait, but this one will be worth it :)
Always appreciate your teach and play through videos. Nicely done.
Thank you so much for your kind words!
Just another reason I'm grateful for your coverage of games. Found out last night that your videos soothe our 2 month old when he is upset late at night. So between that and my wife and i really enjoying your coverage of this and the Iliad, it turned to a really nice night. Just wanted to say love your coverage of games and thank you!
Whoa that's a BEAUTIFUL game. And also looks strategic and fun, SOLD!!
This looks much like a classic game and I imagine the pieces highlighting the spaces of the board they passed. But I also imagine getting AP making choices for this 😂
Gotta keep “an eye” on Cyclops.
Eye see what u did
I spy with my little eye
My bank account doesn’t appreciate this channel or Reiner Knizia, but I sure do!!
Reiner Knizia - the best kind of money thief 😆
Mannnn I really like you two 😊 always excited to see you pop up on a new Kickstarter. Love how easy you make things seem, love your structure of teaching the game and then playing it, and I love your playful banter throughout! Thanks for making me unwittingly decide to purchase yet another game when I definitely don't need more 😅
This looks like a great game. All the abilities and extra rules add a lot of diversity to each play. Sold!
This is really intersting. Looks so unique.
This looks like a fun two player game. I’d like the idea of playing the game back to back with opposite sidesand having the difference in the two games determine the winner.
Nice tricky Checkers 👍
very interesting game
I'm surprised they didn't choose Nike, goddess of victory, for the alternate win condition card.
is the Hydra move at 8:20 a legal move? is that not the power of the minotaur? Apollo being "trapped" feels like only the Minotaur can move that way. I could have missed something though.
She moved Hydra from the right side of the board to the left side of the board. That is a normal/legal movement for any character. Minotaur's ability is to move off the edge of the board and re-enter from the opposite edge of the board - this is particularly useful if a figure is blocking your path/access to the opposite side of the board.
Apollo was indeed trapped. An ability like Hermes (teleport), Hercules (push a figure), Minotaur (exit the edge), or Griffon (jump over a figure) would be the only way to escape in that scenario. Where Apollo doesn't have that ability, he is flat-out stuck.
Thanks for the video!
That game is not for me though. But that's good to know, cause I really like how it looks!
Would be ideal if the tokens were double side.
Yeah, but that would increase the production cost and price of the game. For what it's worth, we've found that it takes maybe 10 second to flip all the tokens face-up during setup. From there, it's really smooth and easy to stack and unstack them as you lay them out and pick them up. You never really think about or use the other side once the game begins. :)
@@BitewingGames For this game in particular, double sided tokens would add a lot to the gameplay. Placing the tokens, removing the tokens, and placing once again can be annoying. I think there is too much randomness and chaos for the average board game player to table this more than once or twice. I like the way Iliad plays in comparison.
@@adamliny15 We’ve found a lot of replayability in Ichor and think it’s got some pretty solid legs. But we know not every game is for everyone. Sounds like Iliad may be the game of the 2 that best matches your preferences.
@@adamliny15If you can flip the tokens, it becomes much harder to keep track of how many tokens each player has left.
@@rukbat3 I see how basic subtraction could be difficult for some players.
Maybe it’s because you’re sitting side by side, but removing and handing back tokens constantly seems annoying. But I think sitting across from each other and the figures being upright will make it better
This looks fun but I wonder if there's going to be a serious First Turn Advantage with it.
We haven't noticed one in our testing. Often the second player can erase or flip the early lead that Player 1 gets, so it becomes a back and forth struggle of who is in the lead. Also, you play two games (once on each side) which both evens the playing field and makes for an interesting/evolving meta.
@@BitewingGames That's good to know. Thanks for the reply.
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jesus how many games has knizia made in the past 2 years?
He goes HARD. But the man is on fire lately if you're a fan of his style of game. Lots of great releases from many publishers in recent years.
this one feels like it is begging for two sided tokens ala Yinsh
Its pronounced Ick-or (de-monic Ickor) -
ugh, I know you are feeling around but i really dislike the thumbnail for this one.
Mannnn I really like you two 😊 always excited to see you pop up on a new Kickstarter. Love how easy you make things seem, love your structure of teaching the game and then playing it, and I love your playful banter throughout! Thanks for making me unwittingly decide to purchase yet another game when I definitely don't need more 😅