Not to mention the added fuel burned due to loss of MPG to run these systems. Sure makes a lot of sense to produce more of what you are trying to eliminate. Oh and big oil just happens to profit how many billions every time an EPA system requires more resistance of the exhaust flow.
@@Jameskelvin89 Big oil isn't making as much as the manufacturers that people have to buy replacement parts from. Big oil is heavily taxed and subsidized, where as the manufacturers are not, well most of them anyways.
@ADHDsquirl these trucks burn through up to a few hundred gallons of diesel a day. How do you figure big oil is not making a killing off the trucking industry?
@@Jameskelvin89I think what he means is the increased revenue from the extra fuel burned due to these systems pales in comparison to the profits of the component manufacturers and shops who work on them. Also, the little extra they make due to these systems still doesn't offset the reduction they have seen due to gains of engine/vehicle fuel efficiency. But don't worry, the big oil companies will find plenty of other ways to make tons of money.
If the DPF malfunctions? You mean the SCR, and thats why they added an amox brick to the back of the SCR to remove the ammonia.... come back when you actually know a real fact.
@gradoisx2348 thank for the correction SCR is what I was speaking of. It's been a few years but I do know something as I was involved in the early testing of dpf and scr systems long before it hit the mandates. So do all systems have this amox brick. That's a new one. All I'm saying is this entire EPA crap has only created more truck mandated sales.
Google ammonia brick...the SCR and if the system fails and continues to spray def we have raw ammonia mixed into exhaust flow at high temps it will turn into a gas vapor or ammonia gas. Reason I say this is because in early tests engineering warned us not to be breathing around the exhaust.
when I was a kid diesel had sulphur in it and dad paid 17 cents a gallon, exhaust was pumped into the air. now that Im older diesel has zero sulphur and cost $3.80 a gallon and now we created an entire industry to trap the exhaust, burn the particulates, and now we wash the crap into our water supply. Oh wait, I forgot our gub'ment created a whole new branch to enforce this NEW anti pollution criteria. all this to save us from ourselves.
When you were a kid you were sucking lead out of the tailpipe of every car on the road, and that unfiltered diesel exhaust gave millions of kids cancer. Was it the lead or your TV addiction that rotted your brain, boomer?
I know it's a humor post, but for those that believe it, def is not urine. It's urea fertilizer and water. Just because it sounds similar doesn't mean it is.
That’s not how A.I.R. pumps worked. They did not just dilute the exhaust with air so it would pass emissions. The earliest A.I.R. pumps injected fresh air into the exhaust manifold near the exhaust ports on the cylinder head. This provided oxygen to combust the unburnt fuel present in the exhaust stream. Feel free to sh*t all over emissions controls, but you should probably learn how they work before you make a fool of yourself online.
Been there myself hauling 50+ tons of coal sometimes I wish I had a little bigger engine & not a 18 speed, Yes off-road we compacted every oz of Coal we could on them Tks . My best load on 10’ wide bed was 62 tons we had to zig zag through the scales to miss scale boxes for your truck card.
Just imagine what the long term affects are to all the concrete bridges and over pass are. That crap is extremely corrosive and is eating them up. We should have never allowed them to put that crap on all these rigs.
And it just cracks me up.They just gather all of the pollutants and they're gonna fills up.What do they do with it?They super heat it and pump it into the atmosphere.What is the difference between letting it out?As it's made and then letting it out in bulk.None just cost you more
The difference is chemistry. Don't get me wrong, I'm not a fan of SCR/DEF or the current DPF solutions. But chemical reactions, often involving heat, transform the starting chemicals into something else. I'm this case they are using the DEF to turn the emissions NOx into something that's not harmful. The science is real. The NEED for these systems, well that's...
Funny, in a few years of running a truck with intact emissions, I’ve had to buy DEF in jugs about three times. Almost every time I fuel up and add DEF at the pump, some clown is pouring in jugs of it and leaving the empties in a pile at the island. If you want people to take your concerns seriously, that’s likely but the way to do it. I carry a couple of jugs in the winter, ones I’ve refilled, just in case a station further south got lazy with their system and didn’t bother seeing if it worked right before winter came (like it does every single year).
Same in the US but they do sell it in plastic jugs too since some older truck stops haven't spent the money to have def tanks and pumps installed yet, and the tanks/pumps can freeze if they're not properly heated and insulated. It was 20 to 30 degrees below zero (both fahrenheit and Celsius) in my area last week and you'd probably be shocked how many times I saw def nozzles that people hadn't properly put back in their little heated and insulated box, seems like common sense to make sure the hose is fully in, the rubber flap is fully shut, and the insulated flap is closed, but apparently not.
Usually people buy it in a jug for light duty stuff. Over the road trucks get it at the pump in the states. I buy it in a jug for our skid steer. Only needs about 2.5gal(10L) every 100 hours.
Since someone else mentioned construction equipment, it's also common in industrial settings to get large Totes of DEF that can be refilled by delivery trucks.
I had a class on that garbage and the instructor said that it’s actually “chicken shit” and piss. From the ruinous nature of the stuff, I wholeheartedly believe it! 😢
I see them sitting on the ground next to gas station trash cans because they won't fit in the can and heaven forbid someone take their trash and find a can it will fit into.
DEF fluid definitely is annoying. Not nearly as much as bad as working at a dealership. When the owner is a clean freak. He had me clean the DEF machine because it splashed on it and crystallized. I swear that dude would find everything and anything that needed to be cleaned.
work at a shop with a boss that NEVER sets time aside to clean anything but sweeping up the floordry. the areas behind equipment reek and dont even get me started about the pit.... cant even touch the god damn ladder without covering your hand in grease and gear oil. your boss is like that for a reason!
@ worked at a local shop, before working at a dealership. They weren't as bad. I had to make sure to periodically clean things here and there. The biggest ask was moving old transmissions that were collecting dust. Only reason that happened was the GM got fired and suggestions to help open up the shop came up. As for the dealership. He is just a clean freak. Likely because his old man was a tight ass himself. Like the original owner was very demanding of things. One of those guys who held onto old ways of doing things. Basically a guy with enough power no one could or would start anything. Basically an old racist who could do anything and the city would look the other way. But yeah the son took over and would want everything cleaned. I'm sure if we had a scissor lift on hand. They would have me wipe the pipes that supplied, air, oil and water. He was never satisfied with the level of cleanliness. Ended up leaving the place during Covid-19. Him and my boss demanded a lot. Left the place when a coworker said I was sitting around on my phone all day, when I asked if he was tired. Had me sterilizing the whole dealership hourly. The kicker was the fact I was using Sani-Quat. Which you wipe it on and sanitizes the surface for a while... yet had to do it hourly. Wore my ass out.
Straight pipe lower longevity of the engine? I would like to see the facts on that. Much lower egts and your not dumping straight diesel into the exhaust and returning the exhaust throw the egr dont see how straight piping it would lower the longevity of the engine
I never understood how come we use a system that creates nox, than have to use another system to remove the nox. How about do away with the egr valve and do do away with the producer of the nox to begin with.
@rafmatt1607 correct. With scr(def) we're able to reduce our even eliminate egr and dpf usage. I'm not a fan of emissions, but I'll take today's stuff over the junk '08-'10 dpf/egr only systems.
It is artificial pee. The residuial chemicals produced in its production. Very destructive. The bad filters can not be recycled. In hier temperature, the fluid evaporated and leaves a crystalline formation very similar to salt. Extremely toxic to plants and animals. The fluid is as toxic as the old green antifreeze. When heated, it will make the exhaust as toxic if not more toxic than a gasoline engine. Kinda a huge add on to co2. Not only displace oxygen, but poising the people and the environment about it. Just in case. (You are kinda young). Diesel engins were running for decades befor Def. I use to work on a set of the "GM v16 EMD" in a tugboat. They were installed in the 1960's after 20 years in locomotives. I also had 3 Cummins 12 valves for generating electricity and air pressure. The longevity. Na. Crap brakes. The only kick for that is changing the same part 2 to 3 times a month like in the 6.0l ford. Now. Do you know how much co2 is in the air? .05 to .03% of the air around you. At .5% fauna will begin to suffer. Plants and flowers will boom! Everywhere. Even in deserts. At .6% human life will cease. Carbon in all it's forms is the only basic building block of life. If you get below .03% oxygen will become toxic to the human body.
Bad deletes, which are most of them regardless what your friend or that guy at that truck stop told you, will very definitely degrade the lifespan of your engine. A properly done delete however will very much increase the engine's life. But I'm not aware of any good deletes for engines other than Cummins and even then you need to find the one source that's highly knowledge and open about the programming. And they also don't charge you for it, that's how you know your not getting suckered into buying aftermarket junk.
@@tangydiesel1886 everyone should know that ammonium nitrate explodes. If you ever see or hear that some is on fire or might be on fire, run. The diesel isn't really necessary either.
Scavina makes engines that don't need it I believe. Could just make a better engine. Like why they regulated NASCAR so they stopped using airplane fuel and forced them to make a better engine and dual for the gas pump.
Def is so great! I love how ignorant people are that really think after building manufacturing plants to create all the emissions bs and plants for def not counting transportation for all the def they still think we saved the world. We actually created more pollution to lower pollution. I also love it when you pull up to the pump and the def is frozen and you can't get it unless you get the good ol plastic jugs that are so great for our environment. Another issue is the problematic emissions in heavy haul/superload trucks that constantly need parts and sensors. It's awesome, only tree huggers think it's great. Keep that dumb shit in California
You know that DPFs don't use DEF right? Scania engines use a SCR (Selective Catalyst Reduction) which uses DEF (Ad-Blue) to capture soot and reduce it along with EGR (Exhaust Gas Recirculation). The system you are touting are exactly the systems that use DEF to achieve the standard. You can either use DEF to reduce the soot or you can use a DPF to capture it and then burn off the soot with high heat regeneration cycles.
The fucking CAT C7 ACERT was a shit motor. We had an F750 with that p.o.s. Thing was on the hook more than the road it seemed. They had some fluid you were supposed to inject, it was basically floor stripper. CAT was in such a rush to be the first to market with the new regs, that they rushed this pile out. Was a class action iirc.
I used to have a emission diesel jeep. Was about to take EGR and DEF system off and straight pipe it. Then I needed to sell it. EPA would come after me with Big Fines
It is called a Urea Tank at the factory. DEF is what the companies named it (not the biggest imaginations...) so and this came from a Cummins engineer a piss tank. Instead of DEF tank. Buying DEF at the fuel station pumps is better than the bottles on waste BUT in cold climates it tends to freeze. Then the truck throws codes and has to go to the shop. I like in Wisconsin and see it constantly. The in ground tanks and bulk hail tankers collect too much water...so cold climates using the bottled piss is important.
Emissions equipment is a joke. Most cut fuel mileage by HALF. Burn twice as much fuel and end up with the same fkn emissions as you would've without the emissions equipment. Just another way for the oil companies to sell more oil. Wake up people
Interesting how the byproduct of DEF is more volatile than the emissions of before the whole process 😅
Someone DEFINITELY needs to do some reading.🥱
Not to mention the added fuel burned due to loss of MPG to run these systems. Sure makes a lot of sense to produce more of what you are trying to eliminate. Oh and big oil just happens to profit how many billions every time an EPA system requires more resistance of the exhaust flow.
@@Jameskelvin89 Big oil isn't making as much as the manufacturers that people have to buy replacement parts from. Big oil is heavily taxed and subsidized, where as the manufacturers are not, well most of them anyways.
@ADHDsquirl these trucks burn through up to a few hundred gallons of diesel a day. How do you figure big oil is not making a killing off the trucking industry?
@@Jameskelvin89I think what he means is the increased revenue from the extra fuel burned due to these systems pales in comparison to the profits of the component manufacturers and shops who work on them. Also, the little extra they make due to these systems still doesn't offset the reduction they have seen due to gains of engine/vehicle fuel efficiency. But don't worry, the big oil companies will find plenty of other ways to make tons of money.
Def freezes, and can lead to thousands in repairs if it busts lines or the tank. It also makes diesel smell worse, like melted plastic
Kinda like isn't it more environmentally friendly to build things that last for decades instead of things that have to be replaced every 5 years?
where is the profit? Cause you know Diaper Donny is only interested in making money
@BS-ys8zn nailed it
All this EPA mandates have been forced to create more sales. Unknown fact...when the DPF system malfunctions it can creat amonia gas...
If the DPF malfunctions? You mean the SCR, and thats why they added an amox brick to the back of the SCR to remove the ammonia.... come back when you actually know a real fact.
@gradoisx2348 thank for the correction SCR is what I was speaking of. It's been a few years but I do know something as I was involved in the early testing of dpf and scr systems long before it hit the mandates. So do all systems have this amox brick. That's a new one. All I'm saying is this entire EPA crap has only created more truck mandated sales.
Google ammonia brick...the SCR and if the system fails and continues to spray def we have raw ammonia mixed into exhaust flow at high temps it will turn into a gas vapor or ammonia gas. Reason I say this is because in early tests engineering warned us not to be breathing around the exhaust.
Does it offset the manufacturing, packaging, transport, temperature control in the cold months?
when I was a kid diesel had sulphur in it and dad paid 17 cents a gallon, exhaust was pumped into the air.
now that Im older diesel has zero sulphur and cost $3.80 a gallon and now we created an entire industry to trap the exhaust, burn the particulates, and now we wash the crap into our water supply. Oh wait, I forgot our gub'ment created a whole new branch to enforce this NEW anti pollution criteria. all this to save us from ourselves.
When I was a kid raw sewage was dumped into creeks running to the reservoir.
Thems good times, eh?
When you were a kid you were sucking lead out of the tailpipe of every car on the road, and that unfiltered diesel exhaust gave millions of kids cancer. Was it the lead or your TV addiction that rotted your brain, boomer?
i remember my first girlfriend too! that is a Hilarious line hahaha
@@TravisSobek did you meet her at the family reunion
I know it's a humor post, but for those that believe it, def is not urine. It's urea fertilizer and water. Just because it sounds similar doesn't mean it is.
Yes where do you think the urea comes from, pig pee
@@turkeyboyjh1stay ignorant
@@turkeyboyjh1
U kidding ?
Look it up..
This is a square rectangle thing. Urine has urea in it 😂
Urea is a major component of urine. Look it up if you don't believe me.
I just find it crazy their are trace amounts of plastic in every living animal on earth yet it’s not a problem yet 😂
When smog pumps got put on cars. All that did was pump fresh air into the exhaust so it would pass emissions. So now we put fertilizer in the exhaust.
Kind of like telling the cop that it's ok, you drank a 2 liter bottle of pop WITH the FIFTH OF WHISKEY vs just drinking it STRAIGHT UP.
That’s not how A.I.R. pumps worked. They did not just dilute the exhaust with air so it would pass emissions. The earliest A.I.R. pumps injected fresh air into the exhaust manifold near the exhaust ports on the cylinder head. This provided oxygen to combust the unburnt fuel present in the exhaust stream.
Feel free to sh*t all over emissions controls, but you should probably learn how they work before you make a fool of yourself online.
Urea is not fertilizer. In fact it will kill plants.
its not about the environment….its about the money (Qui Bono) Follow the Money
I like my old 237 Mac with the window in the back.
Been there myself hauling 50+ tons of coal sometimes I wish I had a little bigger engine & not a 18 speed, Yes off-road we compacted every oz of Coal we could on them Tks . My best load on 10’ wide bed was 62 tons we had to zig zag through the scales to miss scale boxes for your truck card.
Just imagine what the long term affects are to all the concrete bridges and over pass are. That crap is extremely corrosive and is eating them up. We should have never allowed them to put that crap on all these rigs.
Mr burns and lobbyists need this
It doesn't taste like pee so you got nothing to worry about
And it just cracks me up.They just gather all of the pollutants and they're gonna fills up.What do they do with it?They super heat it and pump it into the atmosphere.What is the difference between letting it out?As it's made and then letting it out in bulk.None just cost you more
The difference is chemistry. Don't get me wrong, I'm not a fan of SCR/DEF or the current DPF solutions. But chemical reactions, often involving heat, transform the starting chemicals into something else. I'm this case they are using the DEF to turn the emissions NOx into something that's not harmful. The science is real. The NEED for these systems, well that's...
Diesels used to get better fuel economy too.. more CO2.. its all bs
Funny, in a few years of running a truck with intact emissions, I’ve had to buy DEF in jugs about three times. Almost every time I fuel up and add DEF at the pump, some clown is pouring in jugs of it and leaving the empties in a pile at the island. If you want people to take your concerns seriously, that’s likely but the way to do it. I carry a couple of jugs in the winter, ones I’ve refilled, just in case a station further south got lazy with their system and didn’t bother seeing if it worked right before winter came (like it does every single year).
It's all about the power and control of the government. It's not about the environment
In europe def is sold at the pump.
I have never seen it in a container
It is here too at truck stops..
Same in the US but they do sell it in plastic jugs too since some older truck stops haven't spent the money to have def tanks and pumps installed yet, and the tanks/pumps can freeze if they're not properly heated and insulated. It was 20 to 30 degrees below zero (both fahrenheit and Celsius) in my area last week and you'd probably be shocked how many times I saw def nozzles that people hadn't properly put back in their little heated and insulated box, seems like common sense to make sure the hose is fully in, the rubber flap is fully shut, and the insulated flap is closed, but apparently not.
Usually people buy it in a jug for light duty stuff. Over the road trucks get it at the pump in the states. I buy it in a jug for our skid steer. Only needs about 2.5gal(10L) every 100 hours.
Since someone else mentioned construction equipment, it's also common in industrial settings to get large Totes of DEF that can be refilled by delivery trucks.
Nothing worse than a government solution to a government created problem
If YOU weren't filthy there would be no problem
I had a class on that garbage and the instructor said that it’s actually “chicken shit” and piss. From the ruinous nature of the stuff, I wholeheartedly believe it! 😢
😂 your class was a joke, same as your instructor.
Home depot parking lot always 100 def boxes tossed around.
Now that you mention it….you’re spot on and I never even consciously noticed it. I will now though.
I see them sitting on the ground next to gas station trash cans because they won't fit in the can and heaven forbid someone take their trash and find a can it will fit into.
It's never been about emissions
DEF fluid definitely is annoying. Not nearly as much as bad as working at a dealership. When the owner is a clean freak. He had me clean the DEF machine because it splashed on it and crystallized. I swear that dude would find everything and anything that needed to be cleaned.
work at a shop with a boss that NEVER sets time aside to clean anything but sweeping up the floordry. the areas behind equipment reek and dont even get me started about the pit.... cant even touch the god damn ladder without covering your hand in grease and gear oil. your boss is like that for a reason!
@ worked at a local shop, before working at a dealership. They weren't as bad. I had to make sure to periodically clean things here and there. The biggest ask was moving old transmissions that were collecting dust. Only reason that happened was the GM got fired and suggestions to help open up the shop came up.
As for the dealership. He is just a clean freak. Likely because his old man was a tight ass himself. Like the original owner was very demanding of things. One of those guys who held onto old ways of doing things. Basically a guy with enough power no one could or would start anything. Basically an old racist who could do anything and the city would look the other way. But yeah the son took over and would want everything cleaned. I'm sure if we had a scissor lift on hand. They would have me wipe the pipes that supplied, air, oil and water. He was never satisfied with the level of cleanliness. Ended up leaving the place during Covid-19. Him and my boss demanded a lot. Left the place when a coworker said I was sitting around on my phone all day, when I asked if he was tired. Had me sterilizing the whole dealership hourly. The kicker was the fact I was using Sani-Quat. Which you wipe it on and sanitizes the surface for a while... yet had to do it hourly. Wore my ass out.
Just put water in it..
I've stated it before and ill state it again. IF YOUR PEE SMELLS LIKE D.E.F FIND A DAMN DOCTOR!
Def is pee it's cow pee and rat pee
No it's not from animal piss. It's a synthetic, made from ammonia and CO².
The more you know.💫
@Watthead80 actually if you look up the adblue MSDS it's cow and rat piss
@@meanmachinesgaming
U kidding ? ! 😮
Look it up, its made of syntetic !
@@meanmachinesgaming
Ad blue is Mercedes brand of it.
If a hamburger has meat in it, then it has to be ratmeat bc all rat have meats ! 🙄🙄
Just another way for them to line their pockets
Ammonia. Aftertreatment is my bread and butter.
Its my Meat and Potatoes!
I know truck drivers put water in DEF tank and it ain't look back turning and burning
Diesel does not go in the DEF tank.
DEF fluid does not go in the fuel tank.
Too many damn details. 🙀
How is lowering egts shortening the life of the engine ❤ ya but it doesnt make sense its what people do instantly with 7.3s and 5.9s
We must abolish the EPA
Do you know about the Chevron deference being overturned?
Yes but great as fertilizer!
Ehhhh depends
Straight pipe lower longevity of the engine? I would like to see the facts on that. Much lower egts and your not dumping straight diesel into the exhaust and returning the exhaust throw the egr dont see how straight piping it would lower the longevity of the engine
I never understood how come we use a system that creates nox, than have to use another system to remove the nox.
How about do away with the egr valve and do do away with the producer of the nox to begin with.
Because you don't understand it to begin with. Egr doesn't produce nox, it's there to reduce it.
@rafmatt1607 correct. With scr(def) we're able to reduce our even eliminate egr and dpf usage.
I'm not a fan of emissions, but I'll take today's stuff over the junk '08-'10 dpf/egr only systems.
It is artificial pee. The residuial chemicals produced in its production. Very destructive. The bad filters can not be recycled. In hier temperature, the fluid evaporated and leaves a crystalline formation very similar to salt. Extremely toxic to plants and animals. The fluid is as toxic as the old green antifreeze. When heated, it will make the exhaust as toxic if not more toxic than a gasoline engine. Kinda a huge add on to co2. Not only displace oxygen, but poising the people and the environment about it.
Just in case. (You are kinda young). Diesel engins were running for decades befor Def. I use to work on a set of the "GM v16 EMD" in a tugboat. They were installed in the 1960's after 20 years in locomotives. I also had 3 Cummins 12 valves for generating electricity and air pressure. The longevity. Na. Crap brakes. The only kick for that is changing the same part 2 to 3 times a month like in the 6.0l ford.
Now. Do you know how much co2 is in the air? .05 to .03% of the air around you. At .5% fauna will begin to suffer. Plants and flowers will boom! Everywhere. Even in deserts. At .6% human life will cease. Carbon in all it's forms is the only basic building block of life. If you get below .03% oxygen will become toxic to the human body.
Fun fact if you can come up with an engine that meets standards and doesn't need DEF fluid you would be a billionaire.
And let's make the container destabilize the fluid in 6 to 12 months. So no buy in bulk for a rainy day.
Def saving the planet one plastic jug at a time
It’s actually 32.5% urea and 67.5 % water
We call it pee, but it’s not pee! It is a synthetic version of it
👍🖖
😂 You buy DEF in a jug. 😂
Just go to the truck stop and buy it out of the pump. Far cheaper
Bad deletes, which are most of them regardless what your friend or that guy at that truck stop told you, will very definitely degrade the lifespan of your engine. A properly done delete however will very much increase the engine's life. But I'm not aware of any good deletes for engines other than Cummins and even then you need to find the one source that's highly knowledge and open about the programming. And they also don't charge you for it, that's how you know your not getting suckered into buying aftermarket junk.
Ya, good old urea, mix it with some deisel fuel, fill some barrels hhmmm sounds like a bomb 💣
It's not urea and diesel that does that, but a different fert, but I'm not saying what it is on here.
@@tangydiesel1886I've heard it's a nitrate. Aluminum nitrate?
No, it's close to that though 😂😂😂
@@tangydiesel1886 everyone should know that ammonium nitrate explodes. If you ever see or hear that some is on fire or might be on fire, run.
The diesel isn't really necessary either.
Scavina makes engines that don't need it I believe. Could just make a better engine. Like why they regulated NASCAR so they stopped using airplane fuel and forced them to make a better engine and dual for the gas pump.
In Europe we reuse the plastic and the papers from the jugs.
Some day maybe more learn to reuse things.. 🙄🙄
LOL
In this country we bulldoze buildings because they're the wrong color
It's not a problem until we make it a problem, and then we'll profit off of making the solution to the problem that we made making a profit.
Military has no DEF ,
Europe meets guidelines by tuning
EPA just means money out of your pocket , and junk machines
Def is so great! I love how ignorant people are that really think after building manufacturing plants to create all the emissions bs and plants for def not counting transportation for all the def they still think we saved the world. We actually created more pollution to lower pollution. I also love it when you pull up to the pump and the def is frozen and you can't get it unless you get the good ol plastic jugs that are so great for our environment. Another issue is the problematic emissions in heavy haul/superload trucks that constantly need parts and sensors. It's awesome, only tree huggers think it's great. Keep that dumb shit in California
Bob's first cuz
I remember my first girlfriend 😅i f in lost it
Nobody was thinking about anything when they came up this bs
No that's fish .
More importantly what happens when you freeze ureawater mix.
Ice! No cold engine start
Warm urea smells like piss, because piss contains warm urea
Yeah that's it's all recyclable
Just like my first girlfriend
Or how about when they go dump that carbon in the landfill and it blows right back in the air …
It's goat piss...
Scania engines pass u.s. emissions and have no dpf
You know that DPFs don't use DEF right? Scania engines use a SCR (Selective Catalyst Reduction) which uses DEF (Ad-Blue) to capture soot and reduce it along with EGR (Exhaust Gas Recirculation).
The system you are touting are exactly the systems that use DEF to achieve the standard. You can either use DEF to reduce the soot or you can use a DPF to capture it and then burn off the soot with high heat regeneration cycles.
better the DEF system than the afterburner they had before it.
The fucking CAT C7 ACERT was a shit motor. We had an F750 with that p.o.s. Thing was on the hook more than the road it seemed. They had some fluid you were supposed to inject, it was basically floor stripper.
CAT was in such a rush to be the first to market with the new regs, that they rushed this pile out. Was a class action iirc.
Delete your account, you’re a fucking idiot. Sincerely, a certified Cummins tech. It’s NEVER OKAY to eat your own shit for ‘the better good’.
It also kills bees and is a carcinogen
If you don't like DEF, just get a Scania engine. Problem solved.
Got the wrong 3 letter acronym there.
@@tangydiesel1886 How dare you say I'm lexdexic.
So deleting the emissions is gonna lower the logevity of the engines!! These engines cant even make it to 300k lmfao~!
I used to have a emission diesel jeep. Was about to take EGR and DEF system off and straight pipe it. Then I needed to sell it. EPA would come after me with Big Fines
It is called a Urea Tank at the factory. DEF is what the companies named it (not the biggest imaginations...) so and this came from a Cummins engineer a piss tank. Instead of DEF tank. Buying DEF at the fuel station pumps is better than the bottles on waste BUT in cold climates it tends to freeze. Then the truck throws codes and has to go to the shop. I like in Wisconsin and see it constantly. The in ground tanks and bulk hail tankers collect too much water...so cold climates using the bottled piss is important.
Not piss. FFS people, do a little research. Its synthetically made from ammonia and CO²
Strange that they dont have this problems in much colder countries like Norway, Sweden and Finland.
Did you hear about diesel parts company in Louisiana that got $million fine for altering emissions?
In some countrys its jailtime and big fines to remove DEF systems. And they check every year that it works.
@ I’m glad I left emissions intake and didn’t alter diesel emissions in any way
Engines run better and last longer when they have no emissions equipment making them eat their own crap
It really does offset the emissions, diesel is just that bad.
😂😂 I remember my first girlfriend 😂😂
I about shit 😂
Emissions equipment is a joke. Most cut fuel mileage by HALF. Burn twice as much fuel and end up with the same fkn emissions as you would've without the emissions equipment. Just another way for the oil companies to sell more oil. Wake up people