It's the homeless industrial complex... Every government agency & " Non Profits" is making good money from this.. That's why Newsom & Garectti welcomes the them from all over the country..
@@trainsplanesandotherthings5187 , talk about deplorables... they should be ran out of town. It is disgusting how the majority of the career politicians in this country are reaping benefits from the suffering of other human beings..... an age old story....SMH
Would you prefer they make a low salary? Isn’t housing in LA pretty expensive? Wouldn’t paying them a low salary contribute to homelessness? I’m from South Carolina, so I’m genuinely curious how much one needs to make in LA to afford housing.
I visited Portland this pass November. As soon as I stepped out of the Train Station I saw very large encampment, piles of trash & leaves, no garbage cans and no port a potties. These encampments are everywhere.. every little police presence and opening use in public. You are not able to use a public restroom anywhere, and some Starbucks locations (Pioneer Square) you can not even sit down (no tables & chairs)... this issue will only worse within the next year. I saw nothing being constructed during my visit... on my return visit I will document more on what I see.
I paid $5300 for property tax this year. I would sue the city to get my property tax back if they did nothing to clean up that mess. If the city is going to let these people camp out for 2 years and not pay property taxes, then why should the rest of us. That money goes towards the police and fire department....who are obviously not doing their job. If you can not find affordable housing in your city then you need to leave, not the people that can afford home and already live there. That lady is selling her home and will not be paying property tax to the city anymore, but the homeless will still be there, paying nothing into the system.
Right on, my house is 80 years old, probably has generated millions in property tax since then, but has the same pot hole ridden pavement out front, and the same cracked overgrown sidewalk as was put in 80 years ago. I get shit for what I pay in tax and these people pay nothing. And they get free health care, and I pay almost $700 a month for HMO crap with $80 co pay. Turn them into soylent green for all I care.
All a scam. The people in the system pay to live a good life. These people live for free. But very hard life. Paying taxes is just a scam. All the money goes into the Politics pockets. One house can generate so much money over a 100 years. Think about it. A house sold for $20,000 in 1940 that same house is now worth $2,000,000. Nothing has changed. Same old ass house. Small lot. Sucker born everyday.
A homeless person took up night time residence on the back patio entrance to our business. We never would have known if this person had bothered to pick up their trash each morning and deposit it in the trashcan which they had to walk past to leave the patio area as they made their way into our parking lot. You're not a rabid animal, so don't act like one.
Is there a trashcan there? If so I do Not Blame You but I wonder If you can remember this IS a Human Being who has their Own Story. Can you possibly put a trashcan there with a note? So many thousands had jobs, owned their homes just 2-5 years ago and have completely lost EVERYTHING (even their children) through no fault of their own... Before Pandemic & After, banks tripled payments and stole land for development all across this Nation (Even Generational Lands), people can lose any pride or self awareness when they find themselves Living On The Street!!
@@progressivegranny4207 The comment said there was a trashcan. It's only common sense to use it, so why would they need to leave a note (for the tresspasser, no less)? And I think the point of the comment was they'd be able to look the other way if the homeless person would throw away their trash every morning. That's not too much to ask.
@@Ay-B it’s not likely one would have common sense if they’re mentally ill. IMO no one would live with garbage and rat piles all around them without being mentally ill.
@@gracefulxit5650 Your comment assumes all homeless are mentally ill. That is not the case. And I was responding to Progressive Granny who responded to the original post by suggesting they put out a garbage can for the person to use with a note of instruction (having missed the detail that there was already a garbage can in place). My point was: Why would they leave a note telling a trespasser to use the garbage can? You either use it or not - a note is not going to change that.
@@Ay-B I’m just saying anyone who just leaves trash around them or piles simply does not have a healthy mind but is mentally ill even if on drugs or booze. So no they do not have common sense. I wasn’t assuming All homeless have a mental illness. Many homeless do not do that because they’re not noticed. It’s just how I believe it to be. They’re like hoarders but no housing to put it. I’ve cleaned a hoarders home before and it wasn’t just stuff but garbage and trash piled high. So if that individual was allowed to stay there that’s exactly what would happen, piled high trash. I understand your point in the trash can part, just not the common sense. Common sense would be for them to be clean or go un- noticed so they don’t get ran off all the time.
@@kathysharpe7339 the business that stated that in the video was a law office. It’s entirely possible that they’re not losing any business, as a modern law office can operate without clients ever having to go to it.
Just do what Texas does - criminalize public camping. This forces homeless to live only in homeless designated areas, not camp on the side of the freeway/downtown/city streets/etc.
@27Dollars Is-LivableWage lol have you seen these homeless people? Most of them raiding my house are young with no teeth - so we know they are addicted to drugs. Means they won’t pass a drug test and would rather pay for drugs than rent. Not my problem - send them to the slammer since they are all guilty of petty theft.
Not all people who are homeless are like these people...in fact the "good" homeless are invisible, taking their trash and waste to appropriate locations, "clean and sober", and are employed. All of us just want a place to live. With rents so high, and a scarcity of good paying jobs...what are we to do?
Not a scarcity of,good paying jobs if you get a skilled trade. Find something that you’ll never be out of work with. HVAC, Plumbing, electrical etc. if you learn that stuff, you’ll never be out of work. Truck driver. They pay to train and you live in a truck. There are truck,drivers that don’t even own a home and just drive 365 days a year, banking their money.
@@EyeForKnowledge. You see the fault in that logic, though? If everyone just abandoned their "low paying" jobs then those businesses would either go under or they'd be severely short-handed, businesses which I'm sure you frequent. And if you flood the market with HVAC, plumbing, and electrical employees then they'd no longer be well-paying jobs. Businesses paying poverty wages and cities having no kind of rent controls or affordable housing options are the issues. Millions of homeless nationwide can't all go into three or four trade jobs. That's not a solution.
@@EyeForKnowledge. Not every one has the capability to obtain these skills. For example nursing ,nurses are desperately needed but of 200 nursing students only 20 or 40 graduates from nursing school. It takes critical thinking skills in fact all those trades mentioned require critical thinking skills which most people lack.
@@rebeccaabel4589 No one is incapable of learning. Unless you are mentally challenged. People have a lack of ambition, focus, and are inherently lazy. I understand this because it took many years of living in poverty for me to finally accept I had to get a career and not a job. I trained myself HVAC from TH-cam and lied my way into a company saying I knew what I was doing. I faked it until I made it. Now between the wife and myself, we make over 100K a year, live in a big beautiful home and lack for nothing. Now I am a slave to my mortgage and toys, but it’s better than not being a slave and starving and/or constantly worrying about money.
It has to be devastating to work and own a home and have to deal with brazen people setting up camp in front of your home, leaving a biohazard, and stealing your kid's stuff. There is a difference in this type of homeless. Those are the drug abusers and ones who don't want to work. They choose this life.They would rather panhandle. Those who talk about mental issues; they are exacerbated by drug use. The invisible homeless don't do this. They are people who fell on hard times and are trying to get out. Most have jobs, families, and don't use drugs. There should be a bigger effort to help those trying to help themselves.
Yes! I've heard that in at least one European country, they refer to these as "drug camps" to differentiate them from the sober homeless who take advantage of shelters.
They bring the trash in but never take it out. I tried renting a room to a homeless man but total mistake. They treat the world like its their trash can/ashtray. Stop calling it camping, I camp regularly & it doesn't look like this.
@Mia Li Dumbass, they have NOTHING of value to steal, and the cost of removal is due to the health and safety issues of dealing with urine, feces, blood, illicit narcotics such as fentanyl, and the various and sundry unknown chemical substances found in these camps. These places are for all purposes haz-mat sites by the time the homeless are done with them.
You get more of what you tolerate. In national parks there are signs that say "Please don't feed the bears" for a reason. Millions of dollars every year are thrown at the "homeless problem" but the only ones benefitting are the politicians and bureaucrats. You also get what you vote for.
That’s why are you keep having people at the end of the freeway exit who are begging. Good minded compassionate people who don’t know better keep giving them money. I do not ever give a homeless person money but I have been known to give an energy bar and bottled water. It’s never going to change if people keep feeding them.
@@rainforme1850 there are lots of food banks and soup kitchens. Don't stop... it's actually dangerous and most of the food is just waste because they really want money or things to sell to get money for drugs.
@@Berserkerpg3d this people has Walls to cover their bad habits … homeless don’t … they should be extra clean since they are in public areas . Also homeless has extra free time … they could at least clean the area they reside for free .
It isn't the governments job to make sure you can afford a house when you have no job.... I don't see you buying the homeless apartments or you sharing your home
I'm sure the city bureaucrats are working very hard on this.. sitting in their air conditioned offices clicking away, pressing print, signing forms, making the tough journey to the espresso machine and straightening their ties with gusto. That gritty work of theirs will clean up these neighborhoods in no time. They're rolling up their sleeves doing God's work. I suggest marble statues of the city commissioners for their noble sacrifices and humble service. Truly a bargain and excellent taxpayer value.
@@Arltratlo All I did was make a humorous critique about a sad situation. Thats terrible that you would even think to say that. Psycho troll doesn't deserve a response. But just know that violence is not the answer.
@@daryl4841 you are unamerican, socialist, none christian to say violence is wrong... its the only thing in the world the USA is the best, besides incarcerate people of color and highest numbers of divorces on the planet!
Covid changed everything in Los Angeles. The really dysfunctional homeless live on the river beds or bike roads along the freeway. If your living out of your car you need resources, you have a better chance of coming off the streets. Homeless in tents can't leave there camp because there stuff gets stolen by other homless pirates. Drugs are a common denominator and it's a sad cycle to see. There are people among the tent cities who just sell drugs and stolen alcohol to the adicts. I grew up in Los Angeles and saw homeless individuals grow old and elderly as I went through school. As I made due with life others did not attempt anything. Leaving Cali because homeless problems is not good. It only perpetuates this cycle. Our burocratic leaders need to solve these issues. The problems of others should not have to affect the working class and functional members of society.
Yeah, how did these people end up with no dwelling? It was surely their fault, every one of them. Scoop them up and dump them at the city dump where all the trash belongs. They are a blight. We treat the virus better than them. We let the virus live and feed. That's because we can't see it. But these nasty homeless people, just get rid of them. But where to? Hmmm..not my problem, just someone make them disappear. I need to mow my lawn.
18,000 to remove...10 tents??? A group of volunteers can do this in a couple of hours. I'm beginning to see why homelessness is so profitable for certain people. Not for the homeless themselves of course.
Over $18000 to clean up one small encampment? Add to that the cost incurred by taxpaying property owners for fencing, security doors and windows, lights, alarm systems, stolen items such as bikes, etc. and it is probably over 6 figures just for that one tiny site. The people of these cities need to wake up and vote out every official who facilitate and encourage this behavior. People who work and pay taxes deserve to have their government protect them from having their neighborhoods turn into slums. It is a public health and safety issue.
See they say “They have nowhere to go!” It’s not the camp you see, it’s the outright trash they leave behind, crime they commit and there lack of seeking help that is the problem. You want a house? Work for it, like the rest of us.
@@NorCalGlobal get off the drugs, alcohol, or get mental help and have the fortitude to get better. There may be a few people who genuinely need help but there’s a whole another group of those people that just wanna live off grid, want to drink, smoke and do drugs and don’t care about society. They can do that somewhere else. Not on my sidewalk that my taxes pay for.
@@nomadismileseeker6611 your taxes don't have to pay for it but people shouldn't be thrown out of random trashy hidden corners that are the ONLY place tjey have left to go. That's where they go when there is nowhere else you're asking them to die If you don't want them in tents on the street cause there is nowhere else. And its just not possible to distinguish between the drug addicted and mentally ill and they overlap and shit I don't want all addicts to die everyone is a different person. Some people have a rucked up childhood and get abused and then do drugs n go insane n end up on the streets. Then yall wanna take the NOTHING they have left. The people who got fucked over in life over and over until they had nothing. You wanna take the nothing they have left
Funny how that works. If I sneaked into Canada (without a passport) and authorities detained me, would they consider giving me $450,000 for my inconvenience?
As a homeless person you’d figure that less is more! Most of these people are demonstrating huge hoarding tendencies. And if not, your sorrounding area should be cleaned up. Period.
It's because they have untreated or untreatable mental illness that causes hoarding and disorganization. That's also why they lost their jobs, their homes, their family support...
Look at the homeless you see around you. Do they look sane? Talking to themselves, pushing carts loaded with debris. If they were having a stroke from hypertension, would you blame them, would you begrudge them medicine and care?
As a man who's previously been homeless, I can tell you that most of the people leaving messes are either physically or mentally challenged in some way, or are people who see the value in the "garbage" everyone throws on the street. That being said, I wasn't half as bad off as most of the folks I met, and my sites were always left cleaner than I found them.
I loved the attitude of the wonderful lady and her family, who sold their home, and are moving away from the neighborhood. It's shameful that their government has failed them so easily, and predicably. There are answers to most problems if they really cared enough to search for one. Sadly, most politicians are just actors/actresses, who sling words of little value.
@@markvogel5872 Firstly, how should I know? Do you? Secondly, I stated in part that I admired her attitude. I never said I agreed with it. Did I? Lastly, I’d much rather see people who have the dedication and passion to fight something all the way to the end, be the ones organizing the charge. In short, know thy self. She did exactly what she felt she was capable of, and that saves everyone a lot of grief in the end. Correct?
@@Bangkokguitar lol why so combative? I'm saying the attitude of just selling and moving to a new space hoping it'll be better is only going to end up disappointing them when they realize the same government that failed them at their current location is more likely than not going to fail them at the new one as well. Also how much of a hit to the home value will they get when prospective buyers see a giant camp next door? If people really want to get these problems fixed they need to stop voting for politicians who feed into the homlessness complex. It's huge money to be made when in reality the cost to give people treatment to ween off of drugs and a stable environment that won't lead them back into destitution is far less than the non profits are milking these governments for. Just saying from seeing it happen in my own community that the current set up is an utter failure. It's just naïve to assume the simple feat of moving will change things for the better.
@@markvogel5872 In my area it's not allowed or tolerated. We have little to none in my city. I see about 1 or 2 most days or none. My city is not large but we border on many other cities that are larger.
Homelessness is a symptom of other problems. Addiction, mental illness, and unemployment to name a few. People need a path out of those problems. When they do the homelessness will improve.
Problem is you can’t help someone who won’t help themselves. In my town there are many resources that will help and people refuse because they require a drug test or mandatory work programs or whatever it may be. A lot of these people choose to be this way, not all but some. I agree with you it is from other symptoms but what are you to do when the people act insane and won’t try anything at all?
Homelessness can also be a symptom of enablement. Some of the homeless like it because they don’t have to follow anyone’s rules. The obvious problem is that you can’t just make homelessness illegal, nor can you force people into (tax payer subsidized) housing or rehab programs.
Some ppl just don’t care and they enjoy living “free”. There are public resources but many turn them down because they are happy the way they are. We feel sad for them but many of them are content.
@@AlanpittsS2a i Agree, there a certain number of them who are so completely addicted to things like fentanyl that they blatantly refuse any services that get them off the streets and off drugs, people like that were once deemed a danger to themselves and others and institutionalized for their own safety, but those places were closed down in the 80s to save money, it may be time to rebuild and reopen such places for the most difficult and out of control cases.....
@@aaron___6014 There are over 1/2 million folks experiencing homelessness in the country. I haven't talked to enough to even consider it a fraction of that number. You say "many", just how large is your sampling of people who are homeless to use that word? Maybe 'some' or 'a few' would be more appropriate. Are you content with your lifestyle? Could someone who has a better lifestyle than yours fault you for being 'content'?
Yeah, I put my trash and garbage in my trash cans and the city picks it up every week. These disgusting people don't deserve that. Just scoop them up and take them to the dump. Then no more garbage. They sort of blend in with their garbage anyway. Yeah, they're garbage, take them to the dump while I take my garbage out to the street for the city to pick up. Keep my neighborhood clean like me.
@@notgivingit1171 We live in a consumer throw away society. It's hard to live as a minimalist in this country, it takes dedication and organization. It's a commitment! I think that many of the homeless aren't in places where they are allowed to cook and don't have refrigeration. So I think that a lot of what they consume comes in throw away containers which can make a lot of trash fast. It's all so dysfunctional and with no supports, not even regular trash pick up that residences and businesses have. Sooner or later as a society we are going to have to deal with the problems that brought this on. Just condemning the homeless and pushing them from one location to another is NOT solving anything. They aren't going to vaporize.
possibly... they can manage the tarps/tents, but cooking stoves (butane) are a little more to carry when they hafta go somewhere else. add clothes, blankets, sleeping bags carrying food becomes really difficult - say, a bag of soup mix, lentils (like i did when i was homeless). when they can get money they're kinda reduced to buying packaged prepared foods like sandwiches, subs, etc. litter all over. some make the effort and deposit into trash cans but many homeless are disordered people for a lot of reasons and throwing a plastic food wrapper on a sidewalk isn't considered significant. take a look at bureau of land management land where people boondock (camp for free) in the woods - trash ALL OVER and generally left by fairly well-heeled people just looking to party for a weekend somewhere other than home. anyway, when i take trucking runs through american cities the most obvious places for people to take shelter are at underpasses. you can always tell by the discarded clothing flung all over, the garbage, beverage containers and yes, sadly, the damned needles and booze bottles.
From the UK , if you actually give these people one bedroom apartments, they will only smash them up . Gratitude and self help is not in their nature. They have no self respect , no pride in themselves.
BS I’ll believe that when the city really tries to do something about it and then we get news reports of homeless mass destructing their new apartments. Then we can say “self-help is not in their nature”. But guess what that’s never gonna happened. Of course you’ll hear a case here and there. We humans are faulty. But to generalize the entire homeless population is so bigoted!
Yes there is a big difference in their attitude in front of a 📷 when they are on a good day and tell the reporter what he wants to hear and at other moments when they are in a crisis either because of their mental state ( a lot of these people are bipolar and should be institutionalized) or of their dependence on drugs
@@rdh1429 most homeless are on drugs and that is why they are homeless. This news report seems to leave that out. Like Ray at 5:10 is tweekin out of his skull.
@@ianwalton284 Most people that are homeless and on drugs are on drugs to escape the reality and trauma of homelessness. Just as many homed people are on drugs as homeless. Most people that are homeless also have mental health issues that they can’t get help for and don’t know how to help themselves with. But yet they get judged way more harshly than any other demographic and blamed for the drug problems and the crime that they are victims of as well.
@@carpet8991 more than a billion dollar was budgeted by California to help the homeless. Do you see homeless folks driving bentleys? Where do you think the money went to?
Same with climate change. Think about it. I fought wildland fires for years. Guess what, NOT ONE OF US WANTED ALL THE FIRES OUT. We don't get paid when the fires are out. Now think about all the people in power preaching climate change and use the same rational thought process. Does anyone think cops want all crime to end? If crime ended governments would not be needed.
This is precisely what needs to happen. Let the elected leaders live in the consequences of their “caring” agenda that they constantly force down the throats of their governed. .
$347 of it paid the crew to do the work, $18,000 went to the Mayor, council members, Police Chief, City & County Attorneys, Head of Street Maintenance, ect, ect all for overtime to meet and discuss the problem and how to deal with it. There just aren't enough $100K a year jobs for these ppl to afford rent in most cities today.
If each of those 1000 people complaining donated $20 towards homeless shelters then they would have exceeded the $18K required to clean up the camp. It could happen to any of us. Try getting a job when you have nowhere to bathe and no food in your belly to energize you. The next viral pandemic could completely decimate our economy, after this last one.
You don't need to have a 100K/yr job to make it in Portland or most US cities...most of these displaced folks would be OK if they got a job (or two)...if you are willing to work hard you can make it...Ive got news for you campers-the 3rd world people are on their way here and they are gonna trample right over you.
@@glennmorrell4907 working hard and making 12 dollar an hour while rent are 2k a month. Yeah tell that to every people that won't be able to afford that rent.
Petty theft, needles, prostitution and human waste all over the area? I thought the homeless advocates who live far away told the people who live near by the encampments that nothing will change.
When they were on the beaches in California they went in the sand, some would dig a hole and bury it other's did not. It was just disgusting to travel so far to see the ocean and walk on sand with poop spurting up and needles everywhere I had to wear leather boots to keep from getting stuck. Time to let these people go and face the consequences of their choices. Rescuing them isn't working.
Thats kind of ingenious. When you are from another neighborhood and drop off food and whatnot into a neighborhood with encampents, it tends to keep encampments out of your hood...
I was in Portland a few weeks ago. It was really sad, I remember the Portland from years ago is was great city in the years past. Now there was trash all over the city, I mean all over the city, camps, broken down vehicles, trash, bums out on the street, shit every where. Portland looks like dumpy third world country. Learn from Portland never let your city look like Portland. I never want to go to Portland again until it is cleaned up.
@@EngineVSEngine except they love harassing poor people and minorities to keep revenue coming in. Cops spend most of their day responding to nothing-burgers and writing paperwork about it.
@@lopoa126 That's why they do nothing about the homeless, there's no money to steal. Can't squeeze water from a stone, can't put a price on someone's freedom if there's nothing of value to extort from them...
@@mheiseus The type who turn down a studio apartment because it is too small. Complain about the free meals at soup kitchens. State that all the job offers they get do not pay enough etc.
these news programs only produce a video from one segment of town to demonize the homeless, like they want to be like that. If they are having a slow news week they just head to down town to film revenge porn for the working class to keep them honest.
Yup. The only person I've ever known to be chronically homeless is an abusive narcissistic asshole. The fact that he was a druggie too was really just the icing on the cake. When the other druggies kick you out of their social circle, you KNOW you're a garbage person.
@Kevin Souza Damn accurate one as far as I'm concerned. I have personally known a dozen homeless people and not a single ONE of them wound up in the streets because they lost their job or could not afford to pay the rent. Aside from one mentally disabled women I knew, the rest of them wound up on the streets from some combination of substance abuse (either alcohol or illicit drugs) or mental illness, the former often the cause of the latter.
@Your Mother No they aren't. There are homeless shelters in the SF Bay Area that don't ever fill up because their intended clientele doesn't want to abide by shelter rules.
@@irishgrl So you know for a fact that all those homeless are addicted to drugs? Or maybe your assumptions and prejudices are showing.... I work with a homeless population, and while substance use is a problem (just like it's a problem among many non-homeless), it is not something that we should point a finger at and judgmentally say "THAT'S why they are homeless". That's a very naïve and simple-minded view to take.
Soooo @irishgrl basically all the people that lost their homes in an economical collapse like 2008 were addicted to drugs and lost em cause of that? Or somebody that lost their place of residence because of natural disaster like those hurricanes that just hit Louisiana? Those people that are now homeless must be on drugs too huh? I would love to see how much you think you know about being homeless and what drugs actually do to you. You probably don't know shit so until you've gone weeks drinking warm water and using whatever bathroom you can get access to and eating whenever you can find $5 and dealt with everything else people that lose their home deal with you probably shouldn't be saying things like "they'd rather focus on their addictions". Do you know what affection really does to a person? Have you seen a family member deal with it??? I know you haven't dealt with it yourself seeing how sheltered your comment was. Yeah there's some homeless people out there that have only a couple shitty options left or none at all and they give up and say fuck it I'm just gonna get high, but that's a small majority of the homeless. If someone stole your identity (dont think anyone would wanna be Irishgrl tho) ran your credit cards into the ground and put you in so much debt you lost your house, you wouldn't want people saying "oh they must be on drugs they lost their house" now would you? Sounds a little niave right? Well that's just how you sound saying the homeless don't want help they just wanna feed their addiction. Maybe rethink your opinion or maybe learn more because not everyone out there that's not your friends and family is a piece of shit because they don't share your values and opinions or lifestyle.
After moving to Portland, had my U-Haul broken into and destroyed day 1, bike stolen, people tossing out my trash. After walking my newborns stroller over, needles I knew this won't work. Portland isn't what I thought. I move to Texas and bought a house for less than what I was renting for.
This ain't about feelings. Lives are at stake, no matter what way you want to slice it. You crack down on homeless people, they're just going to be homeless that much longer.
That’s a shame - protect tax paying families - the middle/working class families are treated like 2nd class citizens in this country!!! We get NO help, NO justice, NO support - nothing. Help these families and clean that mess up! Fix it! Homeowners and renters should Not have to put up with that!!!!!!
Homelessness is growing in the USA and will continue to. Not everyone agrees with Texas' way of blocking homelessness, but it worked. Texas neighborhoods kept safe from crime, drug dealers, hate, etc.
Wanna fix the homeless epidemic? First question: How much money do we the taxpayers want to spend? I lived in a medium sized (35000 pop) town with a homeless problem. EVERYBODY complained but year after year every idea suggestion or plan got shot down. "Too expensive". "Don't put them there". "Don't put them there". "Why should I have to pay?" Nobody in the community could agree on any plan or idea. So....nothing changed.
@@bobspizza7444 But that's NOT all you have to do. You'd have do do other things like develop mental or chronic health problem, be willing to live in filth, become addicted to drugs or alcohol, lose support of your family, lose your job, have no insurance, etc etc. If you're willing to hit rock bottom just so you can get free help, go for it. Are you ready to do that? Homelessness presents many big problems. Forgetting any human/humanitarian angle for the moment, homelessness is an ugly thing that nobody likes or wants to see. It hurts businesses, hurts property values, hurts the image of the community. It brings crime. There's no two ways around it. It'll cost money to fix. Lots of money. So, just how badly do YOU want the ugliness to go away? What would it be worth to YOU as a taxpayer? $50/year more? $20? $100? Or, another choice is to complain on YT and be 'triggered' because somebody whose life is far worse than yours is getting something for free....even though doing so is a benefit to you: removing something ugly that you would rather not see.
@@bobspizza7444 Uhh...Bill Gate's Net worth is 124 BILLION dollars (not the richest by far anymore, BTW). The United States Population is 333.6 MILLION...that's $327 to each person, far from 1 million to each. And why should he just give people money. Most have proven they can't manage money or they wouldn't be homeless. Why don't you try it? Go give "one lucky winner" $5000 and see what happens.
@@jameswalker590 Why should any one give anyone money against their will at risk of violating the IRS. If you want to pay for homeless peoples' well being, fine, you and others that think like you can do what you want with your own funds. but personally, I have my own goals to accomplish and things to deal with and until they start giving people with their shit together that still struggle, drug addicts and vagrants can eat shit and live in the woods away from society.
One question; in the 1950s, 1960s while there were homeless it was nothing like today. Jobs were no easier to find then than now. Average income vs cost of living was actually lower on average then than now. What has changed? I would say the leadership in the nation has greatly deteriorated (compleatly self interested and polarized) as well as a loss off a sense of personal responsibility for the average person. We are a nation in decline which will eventually crash and burn since we do not have the will and courage to lift ourselvs up as we used to. We have become angry and lazy and blame all our problems anyone else but ourselvs. And the single biggest issue is the number of people that want government to solve all their problems. We are the problem. People do not seem to realize that just because you are born does not mean that you are owed anything. You are owed nothing.
@@swimbait1 it's 💯 drugs. When I moved to Portland I applied online, got 5 interviews and 5 job offers. Livable wage jobs, car lot, doctor office, bank call center, a startup co., And customer service gift basket place. So if people try, opportunities are out there. That said. - I'm not on hard drugs - so I'm privileged I'm sure
We have become angry and lazy and blame all our problems anyone else but ourselves. And the single biggest issue is the number of people that want government to solve all their problems. We are the problem. People do not seem to realize that just because you are born does not mean that you are owed anything. You are owed nothing. - yep!
@@cgasucks Interest rates are at a all time low at around %4. Back in the 80's if you bought at house you paid %20. People kept their homes. This isn't a lack of job issue. This is a severe drug issue.
there needs to be 'organized homelessness' Those that are fully employed or receiving disability or retired should get garbage dumpsters and porta-potties, some social assistance and some security. They need the tools to help themselves.... those that are employable and not eligible for social assistance for whatever reason need tough love, if you stop feeding the ducks, they'll fly away.... I am thinking about a viable self sustaining, self funding idea to treat drug addiction but there would be startup costs and well, i cant do it all my self.
This is what happens when you let Democrat Politician's who have abandoned the Constitution of The United States of America and even their Home States and as they try and overthrow our Country as they force your daughters into sexual slavery for drugs and money as they try and disarm you...
@@XoXitsSaruhh Exactly. They act $18K is a lot of money when they pay that for the mayor's manicure probably. People like Chad are just soulless losers who never help anyone or really do anything but whine and moan.
Always good to shed light on social issues. As a mostly retired social worker I really like the documentary on TH-cam called Seattle's Dying and it's sequel. It promotes the Rhode Island model of dealing with the homeless as being best. I would have to agree. It's not compassionate to leave people on the street that will die and heard others along the way. The Rhode Island model dedicates a prison just for the homeless. Not the student going to college who lives out of his car but the chronic homeless who choose it as a lifestyle. I'm talking about the drug addicted mentally ill. Talking about the squatters who break local laws regularly. In the prison you differentiate the ones that are so mentally ill who will never know how to brush their teeth versus the drug addicted, the mentally ill or both. The graduates of this program are thankful and say they would have ended up dead if it wasn't for intervention. The great homeless industrial complex is costing way too much money and doing way too little care. Truly special interest at the trough of the taxpayer. These tiny home villages are crazy expensive when we could have army barracks that people can voluntarily live in. You staff it with tons of mental health workers and social workers in case managers who get these people out of the barracks into housing in a community that they can afford. You cannot expect Los Angeles to be affordable for everyone. Yes we need low cost housing for people who work in the service industry. The homeless do commit crimes but we're not prosecuting so the ones that refuse the army barracks solution for getting off the street then can find themselves in this dedicated prison. Society has got to stop feeding the homeless. If you feed them you only encourage this lifestyle. Hardly anybody makes a change in their life unless it gets painful enough. Not everyone will survive this process and many people will die but that is a fact of life. People are dying constantly everywhere, whether they're homeless or not. Letting homeless have this lifestyle is not compassionate. It is not freedom. It's a lifestyle that brings death, mental illness, is a danger to others and a plague on the city with blight. People work their whole life to buy a home and tourists save up to go on vacation but when the homeless take over an area what's the point of the American dream of saving and working hard and doing the responsible thing that leads to a lifestyle of abundance. Success in abundance is nothing to apologize for. The taxes of these citizens should be used in a productive good way, not wasted on crazy programs that are failing us all. This lifestyle has got to come to an end! The open-minded politicians, the homeless industrial complex are supposed to be the grown ups in the room yet they're failing all of us. We need to get back to common Sense. This notion of personal freedom and expression is crazy when it tears down property values and shutters businesses and is a danger to everyone. Taking over sidewalks, feces, urine and danger that makes our city unlivable is not okay. It is not compassionate to the homeless or the taxpayers. With the Rhode Island model there will be some who upon graduation will only be able to live in a group home. They've done so much damage to their brain that it may take years if ever to come back on line where they can live independently. We have to have a carrot and stick approach. An option to get off the street. Yet if not chosen then involuntary lockup in the dedicated prison staffed with workers to help them regain their skills to live independently. I'm not willing to be open-minded about this even as an old social worker.
Brian D. Thank you for you thoughtful words. As an Army veteran, I recently suggested housing "capable" homeless in barracks. The group I was with basically scoffed. My position was that a fairly large group of people can be housed in a relatively small space. LA California recently showed cased $600K (!) per unit homeless shelters that each housed several people. Don't think so.
They build tiny houses for the homeless so they can get back on their feet in LA and people are comparing them with concentration camps. Because you know, they squat in Venice Beach or Hollywood, they want housing there even if they are not even from Cali.
@@wordsunheard2383 Too bad the People of Portland don't have the means to root out the hyper-progressive fucktards who are constantly trying to out-woke each other at every turn. I mean, it's tragic that each person doesn't have a say in how their community is managed and protected. Oh wait... Portlanders voted in that spineless, whining, pathetic Mayor? They voted in the City Council, and a DA who has done nothing but keep to the platform he ran on? Did the entire PPB didn't wake up one day and say, "y'know, we should check our privilege and totally do away with our Gun Violence Reduction Team"? No, let's be clear... the residents of this city are responsible for what they've turned this once beautiful place into. I've been saying it for years...We get the government we deserve! Well, Portland, you are a clear example of this! Now if someone would kindly NUKE THIS FUCKING SHITHOLE, I'd be rather grateful. :)
@@KidCorporate Well, who DOESN'T want anarchy? I mean, free shit from whichever store you feel like robbing, impromptu drift parties on the Fremont bridge, you can shoot at anything that moves and spray paint anything that doesn't! Need to relieve yourself? Well go shit on the sidewalk like everyone else! It's FUCKIN PDX, BABY! Rock out with your Glock out!
@Richard Blake Simple. Give the homeless a choice. Go into rehab and temporary housing or go to jail. They can make a choice to reintegrate back into society or not. Taxpayers, homeowners, and regular citizens shouldn't have to have an encampments inside their communities because these people refuse to follow the norms of society.
These homeless encampments are waiting for all of us. Get sick enough, addicted enough, poor enough, crazy enough, and there you are. The solution is: safe clean unconditional housing for everyone. No means test, no rehab requirement, no rap sheet check. Get the homeless into housing now, full stop.
This is what happens when you let Democrat Politician's who have abandoned the Constitution of The United States of America and even their Home States and as they try and overthrow our Country as they force your daughters into sexual slavery for drugs and money as they try and disarm you...
@Richard Blake Okay, right back. What's your solution?? Because what's being allowed now is intolerable and cannot be sustained. What a bunch of miserable cretins. Fucking stray dogs live better than these mofo's.
I volunteered for a year at a homeless shelter, Working the 11 pm to 6 am shift. That is the time they are all there, My job was to help them fill out forms get them what they needed etc. The only genuine way to understand the homeless is to spend a great deal of time with them and talk to them. I remember speaking with the girl I called the poster girl for the homeless. She was 18 years old, Had 3 children and no where to go, No job, no money. I asked her why didn't you let the state give you free birth control after your first child ? Her answer was: I am not going to sick that stuff in my body. But yet she let other stuff into her body that gave her 3 kids, Point here is 97 % of the people there I spoke to if not all of them had the same kind of "I don't wanna" attitude that got them in there. Not mental Illness, But a grand desire to disregard all the rules, And to beat the system. They never learned that the system will beat you if you try to beat it. Go volunteer at a homeless shelter and learn the truth.
China has more housing units than people who need them. China doesn't want homeless people, so nobody is homeless. America wants homeless people, so there are probably a million homeless across America. It's interesting you never learned that while "helping" the homeless.
This crap is bleeding into my city; Vancouver, WA. (Across the river north of Portland for those not from the area.) Homeless camps are starting to sprout up. Crime is rising. This city used to be so peaceful, now I hear gun shots regularly. That never used to happen. Crazy events happening every day - also, never used to happen. Its time for people to stop looking to these ineffectual leaders and start working together to fix our communities.
But, but, all the “homeless advocates” AKA shameless grifters, insist that we need to allow and support all these good people who’s only reason they are homeless is because of “high rents” and that they never bring with them extreme toxic trash, drug problems and crime while they gleefully destroy every environment in which they inhabit.
Do these people look gleeful to you? I worked as an EMT, Homeless people were the majority of people I would take to the hospitals. I can promise you they are anything but gleeful.
We drive up to Washington a few times a month and soon as we hit the Oregon line it's all homeless shelters and trash. I don't think it would be such a issue if there wasn't trash everywhere... Oh lord I lived in West Salem. The mall is completely taken over by camps. Living in the East Coast my entire life I have never seen anything like it.
Right. Homelessness is a huge task to tackle. Ok I get that. The least the city should do is make an EFFORT, to have a trash collection plan. Just hire people to pick it up. Hire someone to think of a better plan. Just try
I am a firm Democrat (and former Portlander), but this is where I draw the line....as a citizen of this country, you have the basic responsibility to feed, clothe and house yourself. Those who are so mentally or physically impaired to do that deserve our help....but those people who do not uphold their responsibility to society and their fellow citizens, DO NOT have the right to impose on the responsible tax paying citizens their irresponsibility in the form of tent camps and trash in residential neighborhoods. There should be designated camping areas where homeless can live...out of sight of taxpayers...with bathrooms, sanitation and bus service. Anyone who chooses to be homeless and refuses to live in the designated out of sight camping areas should be arrested. Enough is enough.
There's GOOD homeless and BAD homeless. BAD homeless abuse drugs and alcohol, defecate in public, steal from stores and residences, pile up tons of trash, set fires, menace neighborhoods, panhandle on street corners, create roadside eyesores, live in ramshackle tent cities, plague emergency services, cost thousands of dollars in police and fire and clean-up services, sell stolen goods, suck up the majority of charitable services, etc. GOOD homeless are usually living out of a RUNNING vehicle, holding down a job, waiting for affordable housing, avoiding tent cities, fairly invisible from public view, crime free and drug free, eligible for public assistance and morally straight. 1. MENTALLY ill homeless are not GOOD homeless. They need to be evacuated of the streets and institutionalized. 2. DRUG ADDICTED homeless are not GOOD homeless. They should be jailed or institutionalized. 3. CRIMINAL homeless are not GOOD homeless. They should be arrested and incarcerated out of state. 4. ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS are not GOOD homeless. They should be arrested, jailed or deported or housed in a corporate sponsored work community or, if free of criminal history, employed in rural areas to pay for their services and/or deportation. 5. DISEASED homeless are not good homeless. They should be quarantined until cured to prevent the spread of their diseases. Letting homeless vagrants languish on the streets, abuse drugs and alcohol, victimize citizenry and inflict misery on neighborhoods is NOT dealing with the problem. I understand that jail space is limited. I understand that there are legal barriers to institutionalizing mentally ill persons. I understand that there is a profit motive to facilitating continued homelessness. I understand that leftwing politics is empowered by homelessness. I don't care what the barriers are to ending homelessness. It's a cultural war that reflects on the character of our nation and it needs to be waged and won...even if it requires decent citizens to hit the streets themselves until it's solved.
Someone tried recently to tell me these are out of work professionals or working professional people who can't afford rent. I know rent is high, but professional people don't live like that.
It's a mindset, not about income, work, family, supportive friends as an extended family. These people just settle in the level they end up. I was homeless for nearly a year, I got a job at a convince store that sold snacks to Cosmetology School students. They motivated me to become a hairdresser, in a year I was making 4x the money. Later I had so many nurses as clients and that motivated me to become an RN. There are options if you have that motivation to seek them out. These people have blinded themselves into stagnation. Cut the losses and let them go. Focus on those that want more.
I know, right? These filthy people want to live without dwellings. They love filth. We just need to dump them at the dump. Drug addiction? I would say put them all in prison but that would cost money. Yeah, the dump.
@@eckankar7756 By cutting losses do you mean putting them down like surplus animals in a shelter? Don't improve in X months, and you will get a lethal injection?
So she worked for Trimet before falling on hard times? What happened with Trimet? Did she get unemployment? Was she fired for reason and not qualify? Did she say fuck it and move in to a tent? Maybe try asking some questions.
That’s not even the point! Do you realize that people are working 60 hours a week, two and three jobs and STILL can’t afford rent, let alone, transportation, food, and God forbid they get sick or any sort of disease!
At what point does the city require these folks in homeless camps start to take responsibility for the negative impact on neighborhoods? I mean… do they not know or care about what they’re doing? The way it looks, I’m guessing, they don’t care… so then, what do you do?
@@SlackersIndustry Completely correct. More honest, constructive headline: The cost & impact of leaving people out to dry. It's cheaper to give these people housing than to keep paying for all the police interactions & clean ups. Stop only looking at symptoms instead of ever addressing the root problem.
My neighbors just spent 500 bucks on an aquarium set up for some goldfish. When they get evicted for not paying the rent, their fish tank will look real cool under some bridge where they set up camp.
I see people with verbal and social skills. I see people able to walk and move around. I see employable people. I have an autoimmune disease that some days in in terrible joint and muscle pain. But I go to work every day. I will not be homeless or dependent on a system that steals from us and then produces nothing from our tax revenue.
@@rdh1429im not sure i see your point. I like having hot food and clothing of my own choosing. I will never give up or cave in. I got a guy a job where I work. He was living in his pickup truck and working at a gas station. I was like dude, we need people and he was convinced no one would hire him because he somewhat recently got out of prison. He rents a place now and talks about other struggles besides being harassed for sleeping in his pickup. No matter where you are in life theres troubles that challenge your resolve to continue. For hourly employees we pretty much all struggle and worry. Im not about to cut the hand off I need to feed myself. If I feel I'm sinking ill jump ship before my back is in the corner with no escape. Theres always another job, another town and the next boom. Example, I hate enviro nazi's but they are hell bent to instal solar and wind farms. Time to go to trade school? Big money on the horizon. You only fail if you give up.
@@rdh1429you never responded after your fail first without fighting to get ahead comment. Can you piss in a cup? If so there are many living wage jobs available to people. The railroad has jobs, trucking companies need people. I could go on, but I think most people who need a better job stopped reading after I said pass a drug test.
I used to walk this stretch of Powell up to 52nd and back to 60th every work day at 4pm and midnight for work. I was scared but I had to get to work. Saw people pooping, screaming, following me, smoking "something" from a pipe. One time a guy leaked the sewage from his trailer into one of those parking lots near 52nd and the whole intersection stunk for 3 days. And that was back in 2017 or so, the problem looks quadrupled now. At least they gave them a porta-potty. I used to walk up to 52nd and Powell when I was little to go to Plaid Pantry and get candy. I feel for people experiencing houselessness, but I also feel for families terrified to send their kids to the bus stop or let them walk to Plaid Pantry for candy.
“The real solution is housing” means “The Way to make me go away is to give me a house for free. And don’t expect me to be paying property taxes”. Who do they expect to pay for all the housing? This is absolutely absurd. They say “it’s the cost of rent” but they forget to include “we can’t pay it because all of our money goes to drugs”. The victims here are the people who’s Neighborhoods were stained by the homeless and their garbage/drugs/crime.
Years ago the San Francisco Sunday Chronicle did a weeks long study on the homeless in SF, mostly in Golden Gate Park. There were jobs offered, apartments set up, counseling, etc. There was some success but the basic finding was that many of them stayed right where they were - free food, good weather, free health care.. why work?
But we're in the United States. We don't do mental health care or real drug rehab like they do in Europe. We're tough individuals. If you're not a tough individual then you should throw yourself away at the dump so we don't have to look at you.
@@petunialuna4801 We used to be aggressive about keeping the mentally ill in institutions where they were clean and safe. I know, they weren't perfect places, but I bet they were better than the street is now. But, we decided, conveniently , that that was too expensive, and oh by the way, interfered with their rights to self determination. At some point, we will have to decide when people have lost the right to decide if they will treat their mental health issues. Until then, we will see them on the street. It's hard to know how much substance abuse contributes to mental health issues or vice versa. Dual diagnosis patients are very difficult to sort and treat. But if you put people in a place where substance abuse has to stop, it does make it easier to sort the mental health issues. Anything like that is going to cost, and we will eventually decide supporting the "homeless" is less cost effective than institutionalizing them. Then we'll have to grapple with the rights issue. I submit that there is nothing humane about life on the streets, but we are making the cartels very wealthy...
@@diggermacleod6079 I understand your point but disagree with the only options for the homeless is to do nothing or institutionalize them. If Americans, for once, would learn from other countries that have had successful programs and policies regarding the jobless, mentally ill, and drug addiction, and use some intelligence in adapting our social systems, we wouldn't be going down this dark road of labeling homeless people as "less than" non deserving, and not worthy of being seen or integrated into a social system that problem solves and invests in problem solving. Clearly, ignoring the problem and vilifying the homeless is not working.
@@diggermacleod6079 We "used to" keep the mentally ill chained, but there are many options with medications and counseling, European model rehab programs, job training, life skills training, etc. We aren't in the 19th century when the only options were to lock up people with mental health issues or leave them lost, on drugs, committing crimes, homeless and criminalized. The U S. has abandoned mental health intervention, real, effective, non-corporate rehab programs, and other social support systems. So here we are backwards into the 19th century.
@@mariapyrc6862 dont tell us that you could not afford two to five grand a month in rent? Do the money addicted gentrifiers have a time frame for when rents will be ten to twenty grand a month?
Well TO ALL THE GREAT PEOPLE who still believe in honesty and integrity and morals. Come to Georgia to the country. We don't have that problem here. Everyone works hard everyday chasing the American dream. You know I am a firm believer that if someone really wanted off the streets of America they could dig deep in their soul and make it happen. Ive never been without a job and when it was nessary I worked up to 3 jobs to support my family 👪 from 1979 and to present day. We have all we could want now.
That is interesting, but what if you work at a CVS or McDonalds and you have no friends and you hate your wife? Yeah, man. Sometimes being homeless is the best option, so dont call the cops on me when I'm in a tent minding my own business, living my best life.
I have asked that question so many times as to why they are here but not in other near cities in our state. The answer is always the same, Portland needs to ban homeless camps just like the other Cities do and only allow the homeless to settle down in designated safe zones for them!...
It's hard to always be sympathetic like at least keep your area clean. That doesn't cost anything. Pick up after yourself. I can't walk in my town anywhere without their being needles and narcan kits
It seems like a long time ago, but I was homeless once. I do not even recall how it got to that but I remember that i would work as a day laborer and use my money to pay for a room at a hotel. It also helped that I had a car. I applied for a warehouse job through a temp agency and before long, I was hired on full time, had my place and was back to normal. I certainly would not wish it on any body.
You sound like me. It does make a difference with a car but I'd bet money you would have had the same outcome without one. You were determined to house yourself. As was I. Stay Blessed 💙🙏🏽💙🙏🏽💙🙏🏽
@@PinkyakaAyannaj I was determined to do more than that, and I did. In the end, we all need a little luck or a blessing from God. One wrong turn and we are all at the mercy of whatever is out there.
Get up everyday and everyday I set out and find one goal that will help me to further myself so that we can get back to working and paying rent and feeling like the great neighbors you already are. I know because I'm two years inside now but it's a huge difference. I love my Portland neighbors!
@@ellerivendale3290 they're currently building "affordable" housing in my area. You need to have a six-figure family income to even qualify. or be able to buy it from the town outright, around $600k for a 1bedroom condo. It's like habitat for humanity, sounds good until you start looking into it
Most i feel are NOT homeless but refuse to live where they are supposed to or have been kicked out of their homes for substance abuse or other mental issues. These are NOT people down on their luck who have full time jobs but cannot afford housing. These are people who CHOOSE to live outside of their homes because of their issues. When we start seeing this a drug/mental health issue then we can deal with the problem
As an X-Oregonian and now a PROUD Texan of 15 years, I can say with 100% certainty that I SO made the right decision to MOVE!!! Portland has turned into a political toilet and warzone.. I no longer associate myself with that city!!!
*Most Americans are just a few paychecks away from the streets. Once there, it's incredibly difficult to claw your way back. I'll have a few drinks after a hard day at work and so will most of you. That desire to escape from the stress doesn't stop when you're homeless. It only accelerates. America, we've got to do something.*
It’s very true. The problem is when people are ok with living on the street and refuse to make changes or accept help for drug addiction to get off the street. They’re free to live their lives until they make victims of others. Having your car or property stolen is not fun for those who are struggling to stay off the streets.
The government there has been letting the people down for decades. Just getting much worse. And yet, the people keep voting for the same politicians who employ the same polices. It's amazingly sad to see such a once great city crumble into crap.
I don't think anyone voted your idiot president in..and most of the people on the streets are drug dependant but now there will be those who have lost their jobs and houses to this pandemic while Biden gives a basic million $ to illegal immigrants to help booster the ruthless Mexican drug trade. That's the whole circle there.
No, it can't happen to just anyone! Plenty of people are responsible and make sure nothing like this happens. It is clear these people have many issues!
@@MrSnell-pf2zl wrong. Like I said many people are responsible and ensure they would never be homeless. It starts with education and having a good career not job(JOB Just Over Broke)
@Mike Miller It's called being responsible and planning for the future. It is a concept readily available to those with an open mind and that arn't lazy.
@@isabellavalencia8026 while I agree for the most part with the beginning of your reply, there are circumstances that happen that one can't plan for. I had a good job, was up on things, and still ended up homeless. You can say to plan or "assure" that you wouldn't be affected by that, but life happens. I've been homeless twice now and the first time I absolutely could have prevented it, the second time there was no planning I could have done to prevent it from happening.
@@MrSnell-pf2zl sorry but part of the whole being responsible and preparred includes owning a home you can actually afford to maintain, even if that means you live in a tiny home. I'm willing to bet both times you were homeless were due to your choices and actions not just happen stances.
I would not pay my taxes and I would sue the city if that was in front of my house. I’m retired I got all day to sue, complain and ask why the hell my city with an entire police force public works trash department waterworks cannot pick up 10 tents in front of my house. This is dereliction of duty and we need to start getting lawyers to sue cities.
This is happening everywhere. It's happening in Texas where we've never had this issue before. I'm afraid it's never going to stop until we address the root causes. It's primarily mental health, and drug addiction. The way we're handling it now obviously isn't working, and sadly the same can be said for so many other issues. Like that false definition of insanity popularized by AA we keep doing the same thing over and over expecting different results.
Drugs need to be made illegal for a start. Build more prisons. If they break the law put them in jail. I'd rather my tax paying money go to prisoners than to having them mess up every single city in the country
@@Sammy-il1qf We have enough prisons and prisoners as it is, and they are doing nothing but spreading injustice, misery, and hopelessness. Here's a thought Door #1: Make this country even more of prison country than it already is now. Or Door #2: Help our neighbors up and learn their stories so that we can figure out realistic ways of permanently preventing homelessness instead of making everyone pay for an unnecessary perpetual prison system.
The more you offer homeless people, the more they will increase. It's not rocket science folks. Go the other way; make it illegal and uncomfortable. They will go back to earning their lives. What do you call someone who does not learn lessons?
No one wants to do anything about it, people just want it to go away but it's not going to just disappear. These are people they aren't just going to stop existing because you aren't happy.
@@Squee_666_9 like that George Carlin but in the '80s that the homeless are meant to be a warning to the poor and the poor meant to be a warning to the middle class.
$18,000 to pick shit up and put it in a dumpster. So there is obviously money in this.
It was over 9 different clean up efforts. People, trucks, dump fees. $2000 per visit sounds like a deal.
Don’t forget the literal shit. Biohazard clean-up isn’t cheap.
Give me $50, a front end loader and a jug of diesel fuel. Once I'm done, you could clean up what's left with a garden hose
@@crinkly.love-stick why would you do it for $50 if the going rate is $18,000?
@@TouringBassist because I'd just pile it up and burn it. Somebody else can sweep up the ash
And yet everyone in the homeless works department in LA is making 6 figures a year they don't want it to stop
It's the homeless industrial complex... Every government agency & " Non Profits" is making good money from this.. That's why Newsom & Garectti welcomes the them from all over the country..
Wow!!!
@@trainsplanesandotherthings5187 , talk about deplorables... they should be ran out of town. It is disgusting how the majority of the career politicians in this country are reaping benefits from the suffering of other human beings..... an age old story....SMH
The 'homeless works dept.' feedback loop
Would you prefer they make a low salary? Isn’t housing in LA pretty expensive? Wouldn’t paying them a low salary contribute to homelessness? I’m from South Carolina, so I’m genuinely curious how much one needs to make in LA to afford housing.
I visited Portland this pass November. As soon as I stepped out of the Train Station I saw very large encampment, piles of trash & leaves, no garbage cans and no port a potties. These encampments are everywhere.. every little police presence and opening use in public. You are not able to use a public restroom anywhere, and some Starbucks locations (Pioneer Square) you can not even sit down (no tables & chairs)... this issue will only worse within the next year. I saw nothing being constructed during my visit... on my return visit I will document more on what I see.
Did you rent a portapotty for them while you were there?
Wow no bathrooms? Imaging living in the street there.
Open your eyes
Maybe document some grammar lessons
Why document? I live here. It's worse than this video shows. A lot worse.
@@shaneraine8081 it must be so horrible to be in your home and have to look at people that dont have homes.
I paid $5300 for property tax this year. I would sue the city to get my property tax back if they did nothing to clean up that mess. If the city is going to let these people camp out for 2 years and not pay property taxes, then why should the rest of us. That money goes towards the police and fire department....who are obviously not doing their job. If you can not find affordable housing in your city then you need to leave, not the people that can afford home and already live there. That lady is selling her home and will not be paying property tax to the city anymore, but the homeless will still be there, paying nothing into the system.
leave and go where
Right on, my house is 80 years old, probably has generated millions in property tax since then, but has the same pot hole ridden pavement out front, and the same cracked overgrown sidewalk as was put in 80 years ago. I get shit for what I pay in tax and these people pay nothing. And they get free health care, and I pay almost $700 a month for HMO crap with $80 co pay. Turn them into soylent green for all I care.
@@donwaters2022 fuck your house
@@donwaters2022 who the fuck gets free Healthcare?? You.insane the homeless don't get Healthcare in the US wtf you talking about
All a scam. The people in the system pay to live a good life. These people live for free. But very hard life. Paying taxes is just a scam. All the money goes into the Politics pockets. One house can generate so much money over a 100 years. Think about it. A house sold for $20,000 in 1940 that same house is now worth $2,000,000. Nothing has changed. Same old ass house. Small lot. Sucker born everyday.
A homeless person took up night time residence on the back patio entrance to our business. We never would have known if this person had bothered to pick up their trash each morning and deposit it in the trashcan which they had to walk past to leave the patio area as they made their way into our parking lot. You're not a rabid animal, so don't act like one.
Is there a trashcan there? If so I do Not Blame You but I wonder If you can remember this IS a Human Being who has their Own Story. Can you possibly put a trashcan there with a note?
So many thousands had jobs, owned their homes just 2-5 years ago and have completely lost EVERYTHING (even their children) through no fault of their own...
Before Pandemic & After, banks tripled payments and stole land for development all across this Nation (Even Generational Lands), people can lose any pride or self awareness when they find themselves Living On The Street!!
@@progressivegranny4207 The comment said there was a trashcan. It's only common sense to use it, so why would they need to leave a note (for the tresspasser, no less)? And I think the point of the comment was they'd be able to look the other way if the homeless person would throw away their trash every morning. That's not too much to ask.
@@Ay-B it’s not likely one would have common sense if they’re mentally ill. IMO no one would live with garbage and rat piles all around them without being mentally ill.
@@gracefulxit5650 Your comment assumes all homeless are mentally ill. That is not the case. And I was responding to Progressive Granny who responded to the original post by suggesting they put out a garbage can for the person to use with a note of instruction (having missed the detail that there was already a garbage can in place). My point was: Why would they leave a note telling a trespasser to use the garbage can? You either use it or not - a note is not going to change that.
@@Ay-B I’m just saying anyone who just leaves trash around them or piles simply does not have a healthy mind but is mentally ill even if on drugs or booze. So no they do not have common sense. I wasn’t assuming All homeless have a mental illness. Many homeless do not do that because they’re not noticed. It’s just how I believe it to be. They’re like hoarders but no housing to put it. I’ve cleaned a hoarders home before and it wasn’t just stuff but garbage and trash piled high. So if that individual was allowed to stay there that’s exactly what would happen, piled high trash.
I understand your point in the trash can part, just not the common sense. Common sense would be for them to be clean or go un- noticed so they don’t get ran off all the time.
“I can’t say we are losing business but people are afraid to come here” the definition of double think…
A modern law office can maintain its level of business without ever having clients come to the office.
Typical liberal thinking...
I'll never visit.
Not losing business?. What kind of business do you have. ?.
@@kathysharpe7339 the business that stated that in the video was a law office. It’s entirely possible that they’re not losing any business, as a modern law office can operate without clients ever having to go to it.
Just do what Texas does - criminalize public camping. This forces homeless to live only in homeless designated areas, not camp on the side of the freeway/downtown/city streets/etc.
rather not emulate a state with a privatized power grid that killed dozens of people multiple times
They should also do what Texas does, which is to have relaxed zoning so construction can be made to meet demand, which keeps housing prices low.
@@ASDFCH New single family homes are no longer allowed in Portland, so they're doing that
@27Dollars Is-LivableWage I guess we could move the homeless to your neighborhood and have them raid your front/backyard/cars every night. Lol
@27Dollars Is-LivableWage lol have you seen these homeless people? Most of them raiding my house are young with no teeth - so we know they are addicted to drugs. Means they won’t pass a drug test and would rather pay for drugs than rent. Not my problem - send them to the slammer since they are all guilty of petty theft.
Not all people who are homeless are like these people...in fact the "good" homeless are invisible, taking their trash and waste to appropriate locations, "clean and sober", and are employed.
All of us just want a place to live. With rents so high, and a scarcity of good paying jobs...what are we to do?
Not a scarcity of,good paying jobs if you get a skilled trade. Find something that you’ll never be out of work with. HVAC, Plumbing, electrical etc. if you learn that stuff, you’ll never be out of work. Truck driver. They pay to train and you live in a truck. There are truck,drivers that don’t even own a home and just drive 365 days a year, banking their money.
@@EyeForKnowledge. You see the fault in that logic, though? If everyone just abandoned their "low paying" jobs then those businesses would either go under or they'd be severely short-handed, businesses which I'm sure you frequent. And if you flood the market with HVAC, plumbing, and electrical employees then they'd no longer be well-paying jobs. Businesses paying poverty wages and cities having no kind of rent controls or affordable housing options are the issues. Millions of homeless nationwide can't all go into three or four trade jobs. That's not a solution.
@@EyeForKnowledge. You are such a tool.
@@EyeForKnowledge. Not every one has the capability to obtain these skills. For example nursing ,nurses are desperately needed but of 200 nursing students only 20 or 40 graduates from nursing school. It takes critical thinking skills in fact all those trades mentioned require critical thinking skills which most people lack.
@@rebeccaabel4589 No one is incapable of learning. Unless you are mentally challenged. People have a lack of ambition, focus, and are inherently lazy. I understand this because it took many years of living in poverty for me to finally accept I had to get a career and not a job. I trained myself HVAC from TH-cam and lied my way into a company saying I knew what I was doing. I faked it until I made it. Now between the wife and myself, we make over 100K a year, live in a big beautiful home and lack for nothing. Now I am a slave to my mortgage and toys, but it’s better than not being a slave and starving and/or constantly worrying about money.
It has to be devastating to work and own a home and have to deal with brazen people setting up camp in front of your home, leaving a biohazard, and stealing your kid's stuff. There is a difference in this type of homeless. Those are the drug abusers and ones who don't want to work. They choose this life.They would rather panhandle. Those who talk about mental issues; they are exacerbated by drug use.
The invisible homeless don't do this. They are people who fell on hard times and are trying to get out. Most have jobs, families, and don't use drugs. There should be a bigger effort to help those trying to help themselves.
ABSOLUTELY BRILLIANTLY SAID!
Yes! I've heard that in at least one European country, they refer to these as "drug camps" to differentiate them from the sober homeless who take advantage of shelters.
They bring the trash in but never take it out. I tried renting a room to a homeless man but total mistake. They treat the world like its their trash can/ashtray.
Stop calling it camping, I camp regularly & it doesn't look like this.
No shit. It would be one thing if they actually cleaned up after themselves. They are just another piece of the piles of trash they create.
No good deed goes unpunished.
@@YA-qj8fx I heard a homeless man talking to himself say that. No joke.
Same here
@@abelaxen he was probably a business owner that paid a living wage to employees just to get robbed and almost murdered by them
THERE IS NO REASON WHY THESE CAMPERS, CAN’T TO BE MADE TO CLEAN UP THEIR OWN MESS !!!
Try, they don't care. Jail them, they don't care. It's Oregon, quality of life discrimination, can't touch them. Keep voting democrat.
Bums don't clean after themselves. You'll have to lock them up for that to ever happen.
@Mia Li Dumbass, they have NOTHING of value to steal, and the cost of removal is due to the health and safety issues of dealing with urine, feces, blood, illicit narcotics such as fentanyl, and the various and sundry unknown chemical substances found in these camps. These places are for all purposes haz-mat sites by the time the homeless are done with them.
The are lazy, the wouldn’t look for a job, why would the clean
They can't even clean up their jugs of pizz
You get more of what you tolerate. In national parks there are signs that say "Please don't feed the bears" for a reason. Millions of dollars every year are thrown at the "homeless problem" but the only ones benefitting are the politicians and bureaucrats.
You also get what you vote for.
That’s why are you keep having people at the end of the freeway exit who are begging. Good minded compassionate people who don’t know better keep giving them money. I do not ever give a homeless person money but I have been known to give an energy bar and bottled water. It’s never going to change if people keep feeding them.
@@rainforme1850 there are lots of food banks and soup kitchens. Don't stop... it's actually dangerous and most of the food is just waste because they really want money or things to sell to get money for drugs.
The one thing I can agree with is when the lady said it could happen to anyone. Never say never.
What happened to the tri-met job?
But iit won't happen to most people that are responable.
You can be homeless nothing shameful about that … but do you have to be that dirty ?
@@santiagoperaza967 I have a cleaning business & you would be surprised how insanely dirty people are in their own homes.
@@Berserkerpg3d this people has Walls to cover their bad habits … homeless don’t … they should be extra clean since they are in public areas .
Also homeless has extra free time … they could at least clean the area they reside for free .
Thank your politicians for increasing their pay, having 2 homes and cutting mental health support. Welcome to the new America
Rite
Mental health support won’t solve anything. Blame poor parenting and bad laws.
@@ryansmithc the effects of homeless on property values if the hobos could just leave until those poor rich folks could sell those homes
It isn't the governments job to make sure you can afford a house when you have no job.... I don't see you buying the homeless apartments or you sharing your home
@@roboteen what is their job creating laws to protect wealthy public form impoverished public
I'm sure the city bureaucrats are working very hard on this.. sitting in their air conditioned offices clicking away, pressing print, signing forms, making the tough journey to the espresso machine and straightening their ties with gusto. That gritty work of theirs will clean up these neighborhoods in no time. They're rolling up their sleeves doing God's work. I suggest marble statues of the city commissioners for their noble sacrifices and humble service. Truly a bargain and excellent taxpayer value.
starbucks and happy hour and a $34 breakfast after sunday service , leave the waitress a fake hundo with a bible verse on the back
BEAUTIFULLY said!!!!! Thank you ❣️❣️❣️💕💕💕🥇🥇🥇
and you just show up with an AR15.... feeling like a hero, being just a big dick!
@@Arltratlo All I did was make a humorous critique about a sad situation. Thats terrible that you would even think to say that. Psycho troll doesn't deserve a response. But just know that violence is not the answer.
@@daryl4841 you are unamerican,
socialist,
none christian to say violence is wrong...
its the only thing in the world the USA is the best, besides incarcerate people of color and highest numbers of divorces on the planet!
Here in Los Angeles it's much worse. It's like a zombie take over.
Nah it's just as bad now honestly. It sucks, I'm leaving soon.
Covid changed everything in Los Angeles. The really dysfunctional homeless live on the river beds or bike roads along the freeway.
If your living out of your car you need resources, you have a better chance of coming off the streets.
Homeless in tents can't leave there camp because there stuff gets stolen by other homless pirates.
Drugs are a common denominator and it's a sad cycle to see. There are people among the tent cities who just sell drugs and stolen alcohol to the adicts.
I grew up in Los Angeles and saw homeless individuals grow old and elderly as I went through school. As I made due with life others did not attempt anything.
Leaving Cali because homeless problems is not good. It only perpetuates this cycle.
Our burocratic leaders need to solve these issues. The problems of others should not have to affect the working class and functional members of society.
Those South Park kids really screwed you guys over.
And Chicago! The subway has turned into a drug infested hotel!
Yeah, how did these people end up with no dwelling? It was surely their fault, every one of them. Scoop them up and dump them at the city dump where all the trash belongs. They are a blight. We treat the virus better than them. We let the virus live and feed. That's because we can't see it. But these nasty homeless people, just get rid of them. But where to? Hmmm..not my problem, just someone make them disappear. I need to mow my lawn.
Portland is really turning into a dump sadly 😔
It already is
Needs a NUKE; Biden said he'd use against AMERICANS.
@UCAaMBMJ7zXj_KnHiyzFFu_Q Or your dumb ass could just leave.
People in Portland wanted this because they keep voting this crap in so we must accept it, but we don't have to go and visit.
DEMcratic rule
18,000 to remove...10 tents??? A group of volunteers can do this in a couple of hours. I'm beginning to see why homelessness is so profitable for certain people. Not for the homeless themselves of course.
10 tents repeatedly over two years, bucko
Ten tents and hazardous debris like human waste and needles.
No volunteers wouldn't clean it up
@@michaelwilk8113 And its' shifting aroma . . . as the wind changes direction 😝
I'll do it for 10k!😆
Over $18000 to clean up one small encampment? Add to that the cost incurred by taxpaying property owners for fencing, security doors and windows, lights, alarm systems, stolen items such as bikes, etc. and it is probably over 6 figures just for that one tiny site. The people of these cities need to wake up and vote out every official who facilitate and encourage this behavior. People who work and pay taxes deserve to have their government protect them from having their neighborhoods turn into slums. It is a public health and safety issue.
$18,000 of that is to make some calls and file the paperwork.
See they say “They have nowhere to go!” It’s not the camp you see, it’s the outright trash they leave behind, crime they commit and there lack of seeking help that is the problem. You want a house? Work for it, like the rest of us.
@Olde Timer this is everywhere and I was being nice.
There IS nowhere to go where the fuck else do you think a person can go? Where tell me where
@@NorCalGlobal get off the drugs, alcohol, or get mental help and have the fortitude to get better. There may be a few people who genuinely need help but there’s a whole another group of those people that just wanna live off grid, want to drink, smoke and do drugs and don’t care about society. They can do that somewhere else. Not on my sidewalk that my taxes pay for.
@@nomadismileseeker6611 your taxes don't have to pay for it but people shouldn't be thrown out of random trashy hidden corners that are the ONLY place tjey have left to go. That's where they go when there is nowhere else you're asking them to die If you don't want them in tents on the street cause there is nowhere else. And its just not possible to distinguish between the drug addicted and mentally ill and they overlap and shit I don't want all addicts to die everyone is a different person. Some people have a rucked up childhood and get abused and then do drugs n go insane n end up on the streets. Then yall wanna take the NOTHING they have left. The people who got fucked over in life over and over until they had nothing. You wanna take the nothing they have left
Lack of seeking help lol... what HELP?? Karens screaming for them to get out?
If a truck parked there,, would be ticketed instantly... and towed
Funny how that works. If I sneaked into Canada (without a passport) and authorities detained me, would they consider giving me $450,000 for my inconvenience?
@@MikeNaples Oh snap!
As a homeless person you’d figure that less is more! Most of these people are demonstrating huge hoarding tendencies.
And if not, your sorrounding area should be cleaned up. Period.
It's because they have untreated or untreatable mental illness that causes hoarding and disorganization. That's also why they lost their jobs, their homes, their family support...
Look at the homeless you see around you. Do they look sane? Talking to themselves, pushing carts loaded with debris. If they were having a stroke from hypertension, would you blame them, would you begrudge them medicine and care?
As a man who's previously been homeless, I can tell you that most of the people leaving messes are either physically or mentally challenged in some way, or are people who see the value in the "garbage" everyone throws on the street. That being said, I wasn't half as bad off as most of the folks I met, and my sites were always left cleaner than I found them.
they aren't allowed to have a dumpster
@@jerrymcgoo3240 in many places the dumpsters are locked which leaves no option but to litter
I loved the attitude of the wonderful lady and her family, who sold their home, and are moving away from the neighborhood. It's shameful that their government has failed them so easily, and predicably. There are answers to most problems if they really cared enough to search for one. Sadly, most politicians are just actors/actresses, who sling words of little value.
So what's she going to do once a camp opens up in her new area? This is what happens when you legalize drugs and don't prosecute criminal behavior.
@@markvogel5872 Firstly, how should I know? Do you? Secondly, I stated in part that I admired her attitude. I never said I agreed with it. Did I? Lastly, I’d much rather see people who have the dedication and passion to fight something all the way to the end, be the ones organizing the charge. In short, know thy self. She did exactly what she felt she was capable of, and that saves everyone a lot of grief in the end. Correct?
@@Bangkokguitar lol why so combative? I'm saying the attitude of just selling and moving to a new space hoping it'll be better is only going to end up disappointing them when they realize the same government that failed them at their current location is more likely than not going to fail them at the new one as well. Also how much of a hit to the home value will they get when prospective buyers see a giant camp next door? If people really want to get these problems fixed they need to stop voting for politicians who feed into the homlessness complex. It's huge money to be made when in reality the cost to give people treatment to ween off of drugs and a stable environment that won't lead them back into destitution is far less than the non profits are milking these governments for. Just saying from seeing it happen in my own community that the current set up is an utter failure. It's just naïve to assume the simple feat of moving will change things for the better.
@@markvogel5872 exactly it's all over the place .In Victoria B.C where I'm from the governments plan is to legalize herione lol Problem solved right ?
@@markvogel5872 In my area it's not allowed or tolerated. We have little to none in my city. I see about 1 or 2 most days or none. My city is not large but we border on many other cities that are larger.
Homelessness is a symptom of other problems. Addiction, mental illness, and unemployment to name a few. People need a path out of those problems. When they do the homelessness will improve.
Problem is you can’t help someone who won’t help themselves. In my town there are many resources that will help and people refuse because they require a drug test or mandatory work programs or whatever it may be. A lot of these people choose to be this way, not all but some. I agree with you it is from other symptoms but what are you to do when the people act insane and won’t try anything at all?
Homelessness can also be a symptom of enablement. Some of the homeless like it because they don’t have to follow anyone’s rules. The obvious problem is that you can’t just make homelessness illegal, nor can you force people into (tax payer subsidized) housing or rehab programs.
Some ppl just don’t care and they enjoy living “free”. There are public resources but many turn them down because they are happy the way they are. We feel sad for them but many of them are content.
@@AlanpittsS2a i Agree, there a certain number of them who are so completely addicted to things like fentanyl that they blatantly refuse any services that get them off the streets and off drugs, people like that were once deemed a danger to themselves and others and institutionalized for their own safety, but those places were closed down in the 80s to save money, it may be time to rebuild and reopen such places for the most difficult and out of control cases.....
@@aaron___6014 There are over 1/2 million folks experiencing homelessness in the country. I haven't talked to enough to even consider it a fraction of that number. You say "many", just how large is your sampling of people who are homeless to use that word? Maybe 'some' or 'a few' would be more appropriate. Are you content with your lifestyle? Could someone who has a better lifestyle than yours fault you for being 'content'?
It's the garbage that I can never wrap my head around. Why are they always surrounded by garbage?
Yeah, I put my trash and garbage in my trash cans and the city picks it up every week. These disgusting people don't deserve that. Just scoop them up and take them to the dump. Then no more garbage. They sort of blend in with their garbage anyway. Yeah, they're garbage, take them to the dump while I take my garbage out to the street for the city to pick up. Keep my neighborhood clean like me.
it's because most homeless people are either drug addicts, drunks or just plain old mentally ill with no family to care for them!
@@notgivingit1171 We live in a consumer throw away society. It's hard to live as a minimalist in this country, it takes dedication and organization. It's a commitment! I think that many of the homeless aren't in places where they are allowed to cook and don't have refrigeration. So I think that a lot of what they consume comes in throw away containers which can make a lot of trash fast. It's all so dysfunctional and with no supports, not even regular trash pick up that residences and businesses have. Sooner or later as a society we are going to have to deal with the problems that brought this on. Just condemning the homeless and pushing them from one location to another is NOT solving anything. They aren't going to vaporize.
possibly... they can manage the tarps/tents, but cooking stoves (butane) are a little more to carry when they hafta go somewhere else. add clothes, blankets, sleeping bags carrying food becomes really difficult - say, a bag of soup mix, lentils (like i did when i was homeless). when they can get money they're kinda reduced to buying packaged prepared foods like sandwiches, subs, etc. litter all over. some make the effort and deposit into trash cans but many homeless are disordered people for a lot of reasons and throwing a plastic food wrapper on a sidewalk isn't considered significant.
take a look at bureau of land management land where people boondock (camp for free) in the woods - trash ALL OVER and generally left by fairly well-heeled people just looking to party for a weekend somewhere other than home.
anyway, when i take trucking runs through american cities the most obvious places for people to take shelter are at underpasses. you can always tell by the discarded clothing flung all over, the garbage, beverage containers and yes, sadly, the damned needles and booze bottles.
That is actually a symptom of depression.
From the UK , if you actually give these people one bedroom apartments, they will only smash them up . Gratitude and self help is not in their nature. They have no self respect , no pride in themselves.
Do you think that all of the homeless are exactly the same??? Are you exactly the same as everyone in your loose demographic?
Ridiculous
BS I’ll believe that when the city really tries to do something about it and then we get news reports of homeless mass destructing their new apartments. Then we can say “self-help is not in their nature”. But guess what that’s never gonna happened. Of course you’ll hear a case here and there. We humans are faulty. But to generalize the entire homeless population is so bigoted!
Yes there is a big difference in their attitude in front of a 📷 when they are on a good day and tell the reporter what he wants to hear and at other moments when they are in a crisis either because of their mental state ( a lot of these people are bipolar and should be institutionalized) or of their dependence on drugs
@@rdh1429 most homeless are on drugs and that is why they are homeless. This news report seems to leave that out. Like Ray at 5:10 is tweekin out of his skull.
@@ianwalton284 Most people that are homeless and on drugs are on drugs to escape the reality and trauma of homelessness.
Just as many homed people are on drugs as homeless. Most people that are homeless also have mental health issues that they can’t get help for and don’t know how to help themselves with.
But yet they get judged way more harshly than any other demographic and blamed for the drug problems and the crime that they are victims of as well.
Homelessness is a big business...if you solve the issues you put yourself out of business...think about it.
Amen, we have an entire political party based on this
Who profited ???
@@carpet8991 more than a billion dollar was budgeted by California to help the homeless. Do you see homeless folks driving bentleys? Where do you think the money went to?
Same with climate change. Think about it. I fought wildland fires for years. Guess what, NOT ONE OF US WANTED ALL THE FIRES OUT. We don't get paid when the fires are out. Now think about all the people in power preaching climate change and use the same rational thought process. Does anyone think cops want all crime to end? If crime ended governments would not be needed.
@@bobspizza7444
I'm thinking about it......
& determined you have a vested interest in starting fires
someone needs to relocate them to the mayor, governor & council members homes
Why?
The people who are now complaining are the ones who voted for them.
The High Plains Drifter method!
This is precisely what needs to happen. Let the elected leaders live in the consequences of their “caring” agenda that they constantly force down the throats of their governed. .
I agree entirely.
city hall will do, permanently
That isn't fair to homeowners and businesses. Alot of the homeless, have mental health issues besides drug and alcohol problems.
$347 of it paid the crew to do the work, $18,000 went to the Mayor, council members, Police Chief, City & County Attorneys, Head of Street Maintenance, ect, ect all for overtime to meet and discuss the problem and how to deal with it. There just aren't enough $100K a year jobs for these ppl to afford rent in most cities today.
If each of those 1000 people complaining donated $20 towards homeless shelters then they would have exceeded the $18K required to clean up the camp. It could happen to any of us. Try getting a job when you have nowhere to bathe and no food in your belly to energize you. The next viral pandemic could completely decimate our economy, after this last one.
You don't need to have a 100K/yr job to make it in Portland or most US cities...most of these displaced folks would be OK if they got a job (or two)...if you are willing to work hard you can make it...Ive got news for you campers-the 3rd world people are on their way here and they are gonna trample right over you.
@@glennmorrell4907 working hard and making 12 dollar an hour while rent are 2k a month. Yeah tell that to every people that won't be able to afford that rent.
@@wendelleg2002 they don't want to go to homeless shelters for fear of being attack or unable to do drugs in them
@@wendelleg2002 homeless shelters have rules and these folks don’t like rules, they need to do their drugs where and when they want to
Petty theft, needles, prostitution and human waste all over the area? I thought the homeless advocates who live far away told the people who live near by the encampments that nothing will change.
When they were on the beaches in California they went in the sand, some would dig a hole and bury it other's did not. It was just disgusting to travel so far to see the ocean and walk on sand with poop spurting up and needles everywhere I had to wear leather boots to keep from getting stuck. Time to let these people go and face the consequences of their choices. Rescuing them isn't working.
Thats kind of ingenious. When you are from another neighborhood and drop off food and whatnot into a neighborhood with encampents, it tends to keep encampments out of your hood...
I was in Portland a few weeks ago. It was really sad, I remember the Portland from years ago is was great city in the years past. Now there was trash all over the city, I mean all over the city, camps, broken down vehicles, trash, bums out on the street, shit every where. Portland looks like dumpy third world country. Learn from Portland never let your city look like Portland. I never want to go to Portland again until it is cleaned up.
Don't feel bad for the homeless and its corrupt mayor ted wheelers fault he doesn't care
Democratic areas are having a real issue with their creation
It’s job security for cleanup and cops. Why fix a problem when people can be paid to work the problem.
Cops have plenty to do..
@@EngineVSEngine except they love harassing poor people and minorities to keep revenue coming in. Cops spend most of their day responding to nothing-burgers and writing paperwork about it.
@@lopoa126 That's why they do nothing about the homeless, there's no money to steal. Can't squeeze water from a stone, can't put a price on someone's freedom if there's nothing of value to extort from them...
Or no apartments being built
prevailing wages.
I'm all for helping the homeless but I truly HATE how entitled some of them are.
yes
Entitled?
@@mheiseus Some of them are such assholes they tend to say things like I deserve this I deserve that.
@@mheiseus The type who turn down a studio apartment because it is too small. Complain about the free meals at soup kitchens. State that all the job offers they get do not pay enough etc.
these news programs only produce a video from one segment of town to demonize the homeless, like they want to be like that. If they are having a slow news week they just head to down town to film revenge porn for the working class to keep them honest.
You don't end up homeless due to a one off event. People who end up homeless have burned every bridge behind them leaving them with no options.
Yup. The only person I've ever known to be chronically homeless is an abusive narcissistic asshole. The fact that he was a druggie too was really just the icing on the cake. When the other druggies kick you out of their social circle, you KNOW you're a garbage person.
@Kevin Souza Damn accurate one as far as I'm concerned. I have personally known a dozen homeless people and not a single ONE of them wound up in the streets because they lost their job or could not afford to pay the rent. Aside from one mentally disabled women I knew, the rest of them wound up on the streets from some combination of substance abuse (either alcohol or illicit drugs) or mental illness, the former often the cause of the latter.
Or they don't want to put the pipe down or take the needle out of their arm
@Your Mother No they aren't. There are homeless shelters in the SF Bay Area that don't ever fill up because their intended clientele doesn't want to abide by shelter rules.
@Kevin Souza I don't doubt that there are working homeless, but those aren't the ones you see camping out in the middle of residential districts.
That’s what AVOIDING THE PROBLEM costs….
Um where’s personal responsibility in all of this Hmm? Those homeless would rather focus on their addictions than getting help!
@@irishgrl
That tells me you know fuck all about it.
@@irishgrl So you know for a fact that all those homeless are addicted to drugs? Or maybe your assumptions and prejudices are showing....
I work with a homeless population, and while substance use is a problem (just like it's a problem among many non-homeless), it is not something that we should point a finger at and judgmentally say "THAT'S why they are homeless". That's a very naïve and simple-minded view to take.
Soooo @irishgrl basically all the people that lost their homes in an economical collapse like 2008 were addicted to drugs and lost em cause of that? Or somebody that lost their place of residence because of natural disaster like those hurricanes that just hit Louisiana? Those people that are now homeless must be on drugs too huh? I would love to see how much you think you know about being homeless and what drugs actually do to you. You probably don't know shit so until you've gone weeks drinking warm water and using whatever bathroom you can get access to and eating whenever you can find $5 and dealt with everything else people that lose their home deal with you probably shouldn't be saying things like "they'd rather focus on their addictions". Do you know what affection really does to a person? Have you seen a family member deal with it??? I know you haven't dealt with it yourself seeing how sheltered your comment was.
Yeah there's some homeless people out there that have only a couple shitty options left or none at all and they give up and say fuck it I'm just gonna get high, but that's a small majority of the homeless. If someone stole your identity (dont think anyone would wanna be Irishgrl tho) ran your credit cards into the ground and put you in so much debt you lost your house, you wouldn't want people saying "oh they must be on drugs they lost their house" now would you? Sounds a little niave right? Well that's just how you sound saying the homeless don't want help they just wanna feed their addiction. Maybe rethink your opinion or maybe learn more because not everyone out there that's not your friends and family is a piece of shit because they don't share your values and opinions or lifestyle.
@@jacejohnson9394 Utter nonsense!
After moving to Portland, had my U-Haul broken into and destroyed day 1, bike stolen, people tossing out my trash. After walking my newborns stroller over, needles I knew this won't work. Portland isn't what I thought. I move to Texas and bought a house for less than what I was renting for.
As long as politicians care more about feelings. This will never go away.
EXACTLY. I don't want to be unsympathetic, but I want to ask the residents: How did you vote?
Those drug addicts do not want help. Sad for them no!
feelings are a fine point that can wait until work has been done but now there is sooo much work to do it feels impossible
@@vectorm4 100% democrat voters
This ain't about feelings. Lives are at stake, no matter what way you want to slice it. You crack down on homeless people, they're just going to be homeless that much longer.
That’s a shame - protect tax paying families - the middle/working class families are treated like 2nd class citizens in this country!!! We get NO help, NO justice, NO support - nothing. Help these families and clean that mess up! Fix it! Homeowners and renters should
Not have to put up with that!!!!!!
People need to stop paying their property taxes.
Homelessness is growing in the USA and will continue to. Not everyone agrees with Texas' way of blocking homelessness, but it worked. Texas neighborhoods kept safe from crime, drug dealers, hate, etc.
Unfortunately That law will be overturned its unconstitutional
Texas still has crime and drug dealers has nothing to do with Homelessness
Funny how you want to put all crimes in homelessness is just no true.
Then God obviously has not been run out of Texas yet.
Wait till Californians flood texas... Texas will truly become a shithole
Wanna fix the homeless epidemic? First question: How much money do we the taxpayers want to spend?
I lived in a medium sized (35000 pop) town with a homeless problem. EVERYBODY complained but year after year every idea suggestion or plan got shot down. "Too expensive". "Don't put them there". "Don't put them there". "Why should I have to pay?" Nobody in the community could agree on any plan or idea. So....nothing changed.
@@bobspizza7444 But that's NOT all you have to do. You'd have do do other things like develop mental or chronic health problem, be willing to live in filth, become addicted to drugs or alcohol, lose support of your family, lose your job, have no insurance, etc etc. If you're willing to hit rock bottom just so you can get free help, go for it. Are you ready to do that?
Homelessness presents many big problems. Forgetting any human/humanitarian angle for the moment, homelessness is an ugly thing that nobody likes or wants to see. It hurts businesses, hurts property values, hurts the image of the community. It brings crime.
There's no two ways around it. It'll cost money to fix. Lots of money. So, just how badly do YOU want the ugliness to go away? What would it be worth to YOU as a taxpayer? $50/year more? $20? $100?
Or, another choice is to complain on YT and be 'triggered' because somebody whose life is far worse than yours is getting something for free....even though doing so is a benefit to you: removing something ugly that you would rather not see.
@@bobspizza7444 "If Bill gates won't pay to fix a problem, I won't pay". Got it.
@@bobspizza7444 Uhh...Bill Gate's Net worth is 124 BILLION dollars (not the richest by far anymore, BTW). The United States Population is 333.6 MILLION...that's $327 to each person, far from 1 million to each. And why should he just give people money. Most have proven they can't manage money or they wouldn't be homeless. Why don't you try it? Go give "one lucky winner" $5000 and see what happens.
@@jameswalker590 Why should any one give anyone money against their will at risk of violating the IRS. If you want to pay for homeless peoples' well being, fine, you and others that think like you can do what you want with your own funds. but personally, I have my own goals to accomplish and things to deal with and until they start giving people with their shit together that still struggle, drug addicts and vagrants can eat shit and live in the woods away from society.
@@staymelt3d uhh...think you replied to the wrong person, bruh.
One question; in the 1950s, 1960s while there were homeless it was nothing like today. Jobs were no easier to find then than now. Average income vs cost of living was actually lower on average then than now. What has changed? I would say the leadership in the nation has greatly deteriorated (compleatly self interested and polarized) as well as a loss off a sense of personal responsibility for the average person. We are a nation in decline which will eventually crash and burn since we do not have the will and courage to lift ourselvs up as we used to. We have become angry and lazy and blame all our problems anyone else but ourselvs. And the single biggest issue is the number of people that want government to solve all their problems. We are the problem. People do not seem to realize that just because you are born does not mean that you are owed anything. You are owed nothing.
I think it’s more likely drugs.
@@swimbait1 it's 💯 drugs.
When I moved to Portland I applied online, got 5 interviews and 5 job offers. Livable wage jobs, car lot, doctor office, bank call center, a startup co., And customer service gift basket place. So if people try, opportunities are out there.
That said. - I'm not on hard drugs - so I'm privileged I'm sure
We have become angry and lazy and blame all our problems anyone else but ourselves. And the single biggest issue is the number of people that want government to solve all their problems. We are the problem. People do not seem to realize that just because you are born does not mean that you are owed anything. You are owed nothing. - yep!
@@GoTimeGross according to the politicians that run that shithole city your privlaged don't understand the voluntary lesches lives
People who I have met that are homeless are not lazy and I was homeless for fucking years before I managed to get a construction job and learn a trade
There's 5 vacant houses on my block going through foreclosure every bodies loosing there jobs . Can't pay taxes if the house just sets .
The scary part is that it's gonna get worse when interest rates goes up and there be even more foreclosures.
But if there is work and cheap housing in other parts of the state/country, how many of them would move to make a living?
@@Lex60 they have to have money to move
@@cgasucks Interest rates are at a all time low at around %4. Back in the 80's if you bought at house you paid %20. People kept their homes. This isn't a lack of job issue. This is a severe drug issue.
Activists would be like that if the camp was in the back yard. There is solutions to the homeless problem but the city is being spineless
there needs to be 'organized homelessness' Those that are fully employed or receiving disability or retired should get garbage dumpsters and porta-potties, some social assistance and some security. They need the tools to help themselves.... those that are employable and not eligible for social assistance for whatever reason need tough love, if you stop feeding the ducks, they'll fly away.... I am thinking about a viable self sustaining, self funding idea to treat drug addiction but there would be startup costs and well, i cant do it all my self.
What's the solution Chad?
This is what happens when you let Democrat Politician's who have abandoned the Constitution of The United States of America and even their Home States and as they try and overthrow our Country as they force your daughters into sexual slavery for drugs and money as they try and disarm you...
Actually there is a solution, give those people real homes.
@@XoXitsSaruhh Exactly. They act $18K is a lot of money when they pay that for the mayor's manicure probably. People like Chad are just soulless losers who never help anyone or really do anything but whine and moan.
I wonder how many people moving out of these neighborhoods will go into a new neighborhood and still vote blue.
With how much they all seemed apologetic about their own victim hood, all of them
Right, right, cleaning up isn't going to happen.
No longer the City of 🌹.....now we're the City of Garbage!
Thanks Wheeler and city Council
Always good to shed light on social issues.
As a mostly retired social worker I really like the documentary on TH-cam called Seattle's Dying and it's sequel.
It promotes the Rhode Island model of dealing with the homeless as being best.
I would have to agree.
It's not compassionate to leave people on the street that will die and heard others along the way.
The Rhode Island model dedicates a prison just for the homeless.
Not the student going to college who lives out of his car but the chronic homeless who choose it as a lifestyle.
I'm talking about the drug addicted mentally ill. Talking about the squatters who break local laws regularly.
In the prison you differentiate the ones that are so mentally ill who will never know how to brush their teeth versus the drug addicted, the mentally ill or both.
The graduates of this program are thankful and say they would have ended up dead if it wasn't for intervention.
The great homeless industrial complex is costing way too much money and doing way too little care. Truly special interest at the trough of the taxpayer.
These tiny home villages are crazy expensive when we could have army barracks that people can voluntarily live in.
You staff it with tons of mental health workers and social workers in case managers who get these people out of the barracks into housing in a community that they can afford. You cannot expect Los Angeles to be affordable for everyone.
Yes we need low cost housing for people who work in the service industry.
The homeless do commit crimes but we're not prosecuting so the ones that refuse the army barracks solution for getting off the street then can find themselves in this dedicated prison.
Society has got to stop feeding the homeless. If you feed them you only encourage this lifestyle.
Hardly anybody makes a change in their life unless it gets painful enough.
Not everyone will survive this process and many people will die but that is a fact of life. People are dying constantly everywhere, whether they're homeless or not.
Letting homeless have this lifestyle is not compassionate. It is not freedom. It's a lifestyle that brings death, mental illness, is a danger to others and a plague on the city with blight.
People work their whole life to buy a home and tourists save up to go on vacation but when the homeless take over an area what's the point of the American dream of saving and working hard and doing the responsible thing that leads to a lifestyle of abundance.
Success in abundance is nothing to apologize for.
The taxes of these citizens should be used in a productive good way, not wasted on crazy programs that are failing us all.
This lifestyle has got to come to an end!
The open-minded politicians, the homeless industrial complex are supposed to be the grown ups in the room yet they're failing all of us.
We need to get back to common Sense. This notion of personal freedom and expression is crazy when it tears down property values and shutters businesses and is a danger to everyone.
Taking over sidewalks, feces, urine and danger that makes our city unlivable is not okay. It is not compassionate to the homeless or the taxpayers.
With the Rhode Island model there will be some who upon graduation will only be able to live in a group home. They've done so much damage to their brain that it may take years if ever to come back on line where they can live independently.
We have to have a carrot and stick approach. An option to get off the street. Yet if not chosen then involuntary lockup in the dedicated prison staffed with workers to help them regain their skills to live independently.
I'm not willing to be open-minded about this even as an old social worker.
Brian D. Thank you for you thoughtful words. As an Army veteran, I recently suggested housing "capable" homeless in barracks. The group I was with basically scoffed. My position was that a fairly large group of people can be housed in a relatively small space. LA California recently showed cased $600K (!) per unit homeless shelters that each housed several people. Don't think so.
The American dream turned out to be a nightmare
They build tiny houses for the homeless so they can get back on their feet in LA and people are comparing them with concentration camps. Because you know, they squat in Venice Beach or Hollywood, they want housing there even if they are not even from Cali.
You and people like you need to be homeless awhile ..
The strong ought to support the weak. Don't call out for me when you're burning in hell.
Why can't the bums be arrested for camping on public property (which is already illegal) and be put in work camps?
The people of Portland made their bed now lay in it. You want it get better don’t vote for stupid.
Yep, they voted for it, they must want it this way.
WRONG. The people of Portland had their livelihood bought up and overrun by evil Red with the green.
@@wordsunheard2383 Too bad the People of Portland don't have the means to root out the hyper-progressive fucktards who are constantly trying to out-woke each other at every turn. I mean, it's tragic that each person doesn't have a say in how their community is managed and protected.
Oh wait...
Portlanders voted in that spineless, whining, pathetic Mayor? They voted in the City Council, and a DA who has done nothing but keep to the platform he ran on?
Did the entire PPB didn't wake up one day and say, "y'know, we should check our privilege and totally do away with our Gun Violence Reduction Team"?
No, let's be clear... the residents of this city are responsible for what they've turned this once beautiful place into.
I've been saying it for years...We get the government we deserve! Well, Portland, you are a clear example of this!
Now if someone would kindly NUKE THIS FUCKING SHITHOLE, I'd be rather grateful. :)
@@KidCorporate Well, who DOESN'T want anarchy? I mean, free shit from whichever store you feel like robbing, impromptu drift parties on the Fremont bridge, you can shoot at anything that moves and spray paint anything that doesn't!
Need to relieve yourself? Well go shit on the sidewalk like everyone else!
It's FUCKIN PDX, BABY! Rock out with your Glock out!
It’s all Trumps fault because that pos didn’t tax the rich and now we’re all feeling the outcome of it 🤦♂️
You get what you vote for. Encampments will continue to spring up everywhere as long as elected officials turn a blind eye and allow them.
@Richard Blake Simple. Give the homeless a choice. Go into rehab and temporary housing or go to jail. They can make a choice to reintegrate back into society or not. Taxpayers, homeowners, and regular citizens shouldn't have to have an encampments inside their communities because these people refuse to follow the norms of society.
No matter how bad it gets the humanist socialists will keep voting for The Party.
These homeless encampments are waiting for all of us. Get sick enough, addicted enough, poor enough, crazy enough, and there you are. The solution is: safe clean unconditional housing for everyone. No means test, no rehab requirement, no rap sheet check. Get the homeless into housing now, full stop.
This is what happens when you let Democrat Politician's who have abandoned the Constitution of The United States of America and even their Home States and as they try and overthrow our Country as they force your daughters into sexual slavery for drugs and money as they try and disarm you...
@Richard Blake Okay, right back. What's your solution?? Because what's being allowed now is intolerable and cannot be sustained. What a bunch of miserable cretins. Fucking stray dogs live better than these mofo's.
I volunteered for a year at a homeless shelter, Working the 11 pm to 6 am shift. That is the time they are all there, My job was to help them fill out forms get them what they needed etc. The only genuine way to understand the homeless is to spend a great deal of time with them and talk to them. I remember speaking with the girl I called the poster girl for the homeless. She was 18 years old, Had 3 children and no where to go, No job, no money. I asked her why didn't you let the state give you free birth control after your first child ? Her answer was: I am not going to sick that stuff in my body. But yet she let other stuff into her body that gave her 3 kids, Point here is 97 % of the people there I spoke to if not all of them had the same kind of "I don't wanna" attitude that got them in there. Not mental Illness, But a grand desire to disregard all the rules, And to beat the system. They never learned that the system will beat you if you try to beat it. Go volunteer at a homeless shelter and learn the truth.
You can also add in low IQ to the mix.
China has more housing units than people who need them. China doesn't want homeless people, so nobody is homeless. America wants homeless people, so there are probably a million homeless across America. It's interesting you never learned that while "helping" the homeless.
@@walterbrownstone8017 G F Y, A
@@richardbartolo2890 There is no way someone like you would help the homeless, unless you were being paid, of course.
@@walterbrownstone8017 What kind of baloney is that you are selling?
Holy macarena.... Did you guys see the encampment map? It's basically everywhere.
You obviously never driven around Portland/Seattle. It is very eye opening to the amount of homeless and trash that is literally everywhere
That's almost what Austin looked like about a year ago. Hell, on the east side, you still find pitched tents in the parks and random empty lots.
Keep them out of town. Impound the vehicles and destroy the tents.
This crap is bleeding into my city; Vancouver, WA. (Across the river north of Portland for those not from the area.) Homeless camps are starting to sprout up. Crime is rising. This city used to be so peaceful, now I hear gun shots regularly. That never used to happen. Crazy events happening every day - also, never used to happen. Its time for people to stop looking to these ineffectual leaders and start working together to fix our communities.
The underlying problem is liberalism …. fact
Me..i see more and more WA junk. Littering Oregon..actually getting towed across bridges to marine drive and any other common drop off...
But, but, all the “homeless advocates” AKA shameless grifters, insist that we need to allow and support all these good people who’s only reason they are homeless is because of “high rents” and that they never bring with them extreme toxic trash, drug problems and crime while they gleefully destroy every environment in which they inhabit.
Do these people look gleeful to you? I worked as an EMT, Homeless people were the majority of people I would take to the hospitals. I can promise you they are anything but gleeful.
You could wind up homeless tomorrow so you're really complaining about yourself
We drive up to Washington a few times a month and soon as we hit the Oregon line it's all homeless shelters and trash. I don't think it would be such a issue if there wasn't trash everywhere... Oh lord I lived in West Salem. The mall is completely taken over by camps. Living in the East Coast my entire life I have never seen anything like it.
Come look at the mess in oakland
Right. Homelessness is a huge task to tackle. Ok I get that. The least the city should do is make an EFFORT, to have a trash collection plan. Just hire people to pick it up. Hire someone to think of a better plan. Just try
@@gingerelvira6587 all over california. There all over palm springs and the Coachella valley area
I am a firm Democrat (and former Portlander), but this is where I draw the line....as a citizen of this country, you have the basic responsibility to feed, clothe and house yourself. Those who are so mentally or physically impaired to do that deserve our help....but those people who do not uphold their responsibility to society and their fellow citizens, DO NOT have the right to impose on the responsible tax paying citizens their irresponsibility in the form of tent camps and trash in residential neighborhoods. There should be designated camping areas where homeless can live...out of sight of taxpayers...with bathrooms, sanitation and bus service. Anyone who chooses to be homeless and refuses to live in the designated out of sight camping areas should be arrested. Enough is enough.
HERE, HERE,WELL SAID!!!
Dems don’t care about people they only care about votes. Although I’d say that about most politicians ha
Durant,,ok,,small-town,,hasalegalhomelesstentcity,,theyalsotakecareoftheirppl,,imfromthatarea,,
There's GOOD homeless and BAD homeless.
BAD homeless abuse drugs and alcohol, defecate in public, steal from stores and residences, pile up tons of trash, set fires, menace neighborhoods, panhandle on street corners, create roadside eyesores, live in ramshackle tent cities, plague emergency services, cost thousands of dollars in police and fire and clean-up services, sell stolen goods, suck up the majority of charitable services, etc.
GOOD homeless are usually living out of a RUNNING vehicle, holding down a job, waiting for affordable housing, avoiding tent cities, fairly invisible from public view, crime free and drug free, eligible for public assistance and morally straight.
1. MENTALLY ill homeless are not GOOD homeless. They need to be evacuated of the streets and institutionalized.
2. DRUG ADDICTED homeless are not GOOD homeless. They should be jailed or institutionalized.
3. CRIMINAL homeless are not GOOD homeless. They should be arrested and incarcerated out of state.
4. ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS are not GOOD homeless. They should be arrested, jailed or deported or housed in a corporate sponsored work community or, if free of criminal history, employed in rural areas to pay for their services and/or deportation.
5. DISEASED homeless are not good homeless. They should be quarantined until cured to prevent the spread of their diseases.
Letting homeless vagrants languish on the streets, abuse drugs and alcohol, victimize citizenry and inflict misery on neighborhoods is NOT dealing with the problem.
I understand that jail space is limited.
I understand that there are legal barriers to institutionalizing mentally ill persons.
I understand that there is a profit motive to facilitating continued homelessness.
I understand that leftwing politics is empowered by homelessness.
I don't care what the barriers are to ending homelessness. It's a cultural war that reflects on the character of our nation and it needs to be waged and won...even if it requires decent citizens to hit the streets themselves until it's solved.
Someone tried recently to tell me these are out of work professionals or working professional people who can't afford rent. I know rent is high, but professional people don't live like that.
It's fucking sad, these people just lie themselves into complacency.
It's a mindset, not about income, work, family, supportive friends as an extended family. These people just settle in the level they end up.
I was homeless for nearly a year, I got a job at a convince store that sold snacks to Cosmetology School students. They motivated me to become a hairdresser, in a year I was making 4x the money. Later I had so many nurses as clients and that motivated me to become an RN. There are options if you have that motivation to seek them out. These people have blinded themselves into stagnation. Cut the losses and let them go. Focus on those that want more.
I know, right? These filthy people want to live without dwellings. They love filth. We just need to dump them at the dump. Drug addiction? I would say put them all in prison but that would cost money. Yeah, the dump.
@@eckankar7756 Let them go where? Exterminate? What exactly are you talking about, "let them go"?
@@eckankar7756 By cutting losses do you mean putting them down like surplus animals in a shelter? Don't improve in X months, and you will get a lethal injection?
So she worked for Trimet before falling on hard times? What happened with Trimet? Did she get unemployment? Was she fired for reason and not qualify? Did she say fuck it and move in to a tent? Maybe try asking some questions.
This video left more questions than answers. It's shitty journalism.
At least she hasn't gone hungry!
For 2 fucking years?!?
That’s not even the point! Do you realize that people are working 60 hours a week, two and three jobs and STILL can’t afford rent, let alone, transportation, food, and God forbid they get sick or any sort of disease!
At what point does the city require these folks in homeless camps start to take responsibility for the negative impact on neighborhoods? I mean… do they not know or care about what they’re doing? The way it looks, I’m guessing, they don’t care… so then, what do you do?
In DEM' shithole cities? Never.
Get used to it, it's gonna get worse with the evictions , people have been jobless for months, many new homeless are ur ex neighbors
There's plenty of jobs, stop lying
@@yesterdayseyes them slave jobs your taking about aint worth spit. keep your stinking jobs bourgeoisie.
@@SlackersIndustry let them rot on the streets
@@SlackersIndustry Completely correct. More honest, constructive headline: The cost & impact of leaving people out to dry. It's cheaper to give these people housing than to keep paying for all the police interactions & clean ups. Stop only looking at symptoms instead of ever addressing the root problem.
My neighbors just spent 500 bucks on an aquarium set up for some goldfish. When they get evicted for not paying the rent, their fish tank will look real cool under some bridge where they set up camp.
I see people with verbal and social skills. I see people able to walk and move around. I see employable people. I have an autoimmune disease that some days in in terrible joint and muscle pain. But I go to work every day. I will not be homeless or dependent on a system that steals from us and then produces nothing from our tax revenue.
Yes but do you have a job that pays a living wage? And if it didn’t and you couldn’t even afford rent how likely would you be to want to keep it?
@@rdh1429im not sure i see your point. I like having hot food and clothing of my own choosing. I will never give up or cave in. I got a guy a job where I work. He was living in his pickup truck and working at a gas station. I was like dude, we need people and he was convinced no one would hire him because he somewhat recently got out of prison. He rents a place now and talks about other struggles besides being harassed for sleeping in his pickup. No matter where you are in life theres troubles that challenge your resolve to continue. For hourly employees we pretty much all struggle and worry. Im not about to cut the hand off I need to feed myself. If I feel I'm sinking ill jump ship before my back is in the corner with no escape. Theres always another job, another town and the next boom. Example, I hate enviro nazi's but they are hell bent to instal solar and wind farms. Time to go to trade school? Big money on the horizon. You only fail if you give up.
@@rdh1429you never responded after your fail first without fighting to get ahead comment. Can you piss in a cup? If so there are many living wage jobs available to people. The railroad has jobs, trucking companies need people. I could go on, but I think most people who need a better job stopped reading after I said pass a drug test.
I used to walk this stretch of Powell up to 52nd and back to 60th every work day at 4pm and midnight for work. I was scared but I had to get to work.
Saw people pooping, screaming, following me, smoking "something" from a pipe. One time a guy leaked the sewage from his trailer into one of those parking lots near 52nd and the whole intersection stunk for 3 days.
And that was back in 2017 or so, the problem looks quadrupled now. At least they gave them a porta-potty.
I used to walk up to 52nd and Powell when I was little to go to Plaid Pantry and get candy. I feel for people experiencing houselessness, but I also feel for families terrified to send their kids to the bus stop or let them walk to Plaid Pantry for candy.
Over here in N.E there’s needles and people ODing constantly. People pooping right on the streets.
When there are no public restrooms the people have no choice but to poop on the streets. Not pooping is not an option.
“Feels kinda like home” -shows giant garbage heap.-
“The real solution is housing” means “The Way to make me go away is to give me a house for free. And don’t expect me to be paying property taxes”. Who do they expect to pay for all the housing? This is absolutely absurd. They say “it’s the cost of rent” but they forget to include “we can’t pay it because all of our money goes to drugs”. The victims here are the people who’s Neighborhoods were stained by the homeless and their garbage/drugs/crime.
We have 85Billion USD to throw away in Afghanistan, but can spare nothing and do nothing for our own citizens.
NO we dont, It was ALL borrowed
it's not profitable, whereas war is
At least we are able to leave comments on your channel video here where as Channel 6 comments are turned off.
Years ago the San Francisco Sunday Chronicle did a weeks long study on the homeless in SF, mostly in Golden Gate Park. There were jobs offered, apartments set up, counseling, etc. There was some success but the basic finding was that many of them stayed right where they were - free food, good weather, free health care.. why work?
There's no "help" because it's not a homeless problem. It's a drug and mental health problem. Homelessness is just the symptom, not the disease...
But we're in the United States. We don't do mental health care or real drug rehab like they do in Europe. We're tough individuals. If you're not a tough individual then you should throw yourself away at the dump so we don't have to look at you.
@@petunialuna4801 We used to be aggressive about keeping the mentally ill in institutions where they were clean and safe. I know, they weren't perfect places, but I bet they were better than the street is now. But, we decided, conveniently , that that was too expensive, and oh by the way, interfered with their rights to self determination. At some point, we will have to decide when people have lost the right to decide if they will treat their mental health issues. Until then, we will see them on the street. It's hard to know how much substance abuse contributes to mental health issues or vice versa. Dual diagnosis patients are very difficult to sort and treat. But if you put people in a place where substance abuse has to stop, it does make it easier to sort the mental health issues. Anything like that is going to cost, and we will eventually decide supporting the "homeless" is less cost effective than institutionalizing them. Then we'll have to grapple with the rights issue. I submit that there is nothing humane about life on the streets, but we are making the cartels very wealthy...
@@diggermacleod6079 I understand your point but disagree with the only options for the homeless is to do nothing or institutionalize them. If Americans, for once, would learn from other countries that have had successful programs and policies regarding the jobless, mentally ill, and drug addiction, and use some intelligence in adapting our social systems, we wouldn't be going down this dark road of labeling homeless people as "less than" non deserving, and not worthy of being seen or integrated into a social system that problem solves and invests in problem solving. Clearly, ignoring the problem and vilifying the homeless is not working.
@@diggermacleod6079 We "used to" keep the mentally ill chained, but there are many options with medications and counseling, European model rehab programs, job training, life skills training, etc. We aren't in the 19th century when the only options were to lock up people with mental health issues or leave them lost, on drugs, committing crimes, homeless and criminalized. The U S. has abandoned mental health intervention, real, effective, non-corporate rehab programs, and other social support systems. So here we are backwards into the 19th century.
Make the "community" to clean up after themselves.
...yup, you can be homeless and live in a tent but it doesn't need to be a garbage dump...that's a choice...
@@puzer1 Homelessness is a choice for many...in NYC its estimated to be 50%
If Portland want a change, then stop voting for a liberal mayor, otherwise blame yourself.
And the junkies , winos , and clueless shall inherit Portland .
you win the internet sir.
Not all are junkies.....
@@asuhdude6668 nothing virtuous about it...I was living on the streets myself and it wasn't because I was a drug addict.
@@mariapyrc6862 dont tell us that you could not afford two to five grand a month in rent? Do the money addicted gentrifiers have a time frame for when rents will be ten to twenty grand a month?
City council and the Mayor are to blame. If I need to explain how... just go to a Republican run city.
So what is your answer? How does a republican run city deal with those nasty homeless?
I believe the Demos ruined California.......just ask Pelosi
Well TO ALL THE GREAT PEOPLE who still believe in honesty and integrity and morals. Come to Georgia to the country. We don't have that problem here. Everyone works hard everyday chasing the American dream. You know I am a firm believer that if someone really wanted off the streets of America they could dig deep in their soul and make it happen. Ive never been without a job and when it was nessary I worked up to 3 jobs to support my family 👪 from 1979 and to present day. We have all we could want now.
That is interesting, but what if you work at a CVS or McDonalds and you have no friends and you hate your wife? Yeah, man. Sometimes being homeless is the best option, so dont call the cops on me when I'm in a tent minding my own business, living my best life.
Why are they not in West Linn, Lake Oswego, or ? Near Clackams Town Center? Is the answer private security?
Cops there won’t allow it. Pretty simple. PPD literally does not exist. It’s astounding the lack of policing in the city of Portland.
Because Lake Oswego police don't allow it and neither does Clackamas County
I have asked that question so many times as to why they are here but not in other near cities in our state. The answer is always the same, Portland needs to ban homeless camps just like the other Cities do and only allow the homeless to settle down in designated safe zones for them!...
Nothing compared to the billions the bakers stole during the housing scandal.
what they do with all dat dough?
those evil bakers
The sous chefs are far worse!
The homeowner they interviewed named Paul Woods has the most pleasant, unique voice. He could make motivational tapes and I’d buy them
Agreed
It's hard to always be sympathetic like at least keep your area clean. That doesn't cost anything. Pick up after yourself. I can't walk in my town anywhere without their being needles and narcan kits
sometimes a firm "no, you can't be doing this" is better than all the sympathy in the world.
Oh good the lady who was forced to move is sympathetic to the people destroying her peaceful community
Typical problematic bangs and feminazi glasses. She got what she voted for 🤣
It seems like a long time ago, but I was homeless once. I do not even recall how it got to that but I remember that i would work as a day laborer and use my money to pay for a room at a hotel. It also helped that I had a car. I applied for a warehouse job through a temp agency and before long, I was hired on full time, had my place and was back to normal. I certainly would not wish it on any body.
You sound like me. It does make a difference with a car but I'd bet money you would have had the same outcome without one. You were determined to house yourself. As was I. Stay Blessed 💙🙏🏽💙🙏🏽💙🙏🏽
@@PinkyakaAyannaj I was determined to do more than that, and I did. In the end, we all need a little luck or a blessing from God. One wrong turn and we are all at the mercy of whatever is out there.
@@learnerm3120 That's so very true.
Get up everyday and everyday I set out and find one goal that will help me to further myself so that we can get back to working and paying rent and feeling like the great neighbors you already are. I know because I'm two years inside now but it's a huge difference. I love my Portland neighbors!
More low income housing has been removed from the market then it has been built
Been turned into “affordable housing” too.
Greed will destroy anything in its path
Than
@@ellerivendale3290 they're currently building "affordable" housing in my area. You need to have a six-figure family income to even qualify. or be able to buy it from the town outright, around $600k for a 1bedroom condo.
It's like habitat for humanity, sounds good until you start looking into it
Most i feel are NOT homeless but refuse to live where they are supposed to or have been kicked out of their homes for substance abuse or other mental issues. These are NOT people down on their luck who have full time jobs but cannot afford housing. These are people who CHOOSE to live outside of their homes because of their issues. When we start seeing this a drug/mental health issue then we can deal with the problem
$18,347 would cover a dumpster and a porta potty for several years.
As an X-Oregonian and now a PROUD Texan of 15 years, I can say with 100% certainty that I SO made the right decision to MOVE!!! Portland has turned into a political toilet and warzone..
I no longer associate myself with that city!!!
Dallas is in PROUD Texas & has a massive homeless problem
Can we stop calling them homeless and call them drug addicts
*Most Americans are just a few paychecks away from the streets. Once there, it's incredibly difficult to claw your way back. I'll have a few drinks after a hard day at work and so will most of you. That desire to escape from the stress doesn't stop when you're homeless. It only accelerates. America, we've got to do something.*
Put them to work
It’s very true. The problem is when people are ok with living on the street and refuse to make changes or accept help for drug addiction to get off the street. They’re free to live their lives until they make victims of others. Having your car or property stolen is not fun for those who are struggling to stay off the streets.
The government there has been letting the people down for decades. Just getting much worse. And yet, the people keep voting for the same politicians who employ the same polices. It's amazingly sad to see such a once great city crumble into crap.
I don't think anyone voted your idiot president in..and most of the people on the streets are drug dependant but now there will be those who have lost their jobs and houses to this pandemic while Biden gives a basic million $ to illegal immigrants to help booster the ruthless Mexican drug trade.
That's the whole circle there.
I've been sent to spread the message
'God blessed Texas'
No, it can't happen to just anyone! Plenty of people are responsible and make sure nothing like this happens. It is clear these people have many issues!
Oh it sure can happen to just anyone.
@@MrSnell-pf2zl wrong. Like I said many people are responsible and ensure they would never be homeless. It starts with education and having a good career not job(JOB Just Over Broke)
@Mike Miller It's called being responsible and planning for the future. It is a concept readily available to those with an open mind and that arn't lazy.
@@isabellavalencia8026 while I agree for the most part with the beginning of your reply, there are circumstances that happen that one can't plan for. I had a good job, was up on things, and still ended up homeless. You can say to plan or "assure" that you wouldn't be affected by that, but life happens. I've been homeless twice now and the first time I absolutely could have prevented it, the second time there was no planning I could have done to prevent it from happening.
@@MrSnell-pf2zl sorry but part of the whole being responsible and preparred includes owning a home you can actually afford to maintain, even if that means you live in a tiny home. I'm willing to bet both times you were homeless were due to your choices and actions not just happen stances.
Great job Kate Brown!!! 👏 I've lived in Oregon my whole life and this state was awesome...WAS.
Yet she's living In a HUGE house with a GIANT yard, likely never leaving her house, while forcing us to live in a TRASH CAN
Voting in hardcore liberals = your city destroyed
@@nic1208 she's not even from here she's from Spain
I would not pay my taxes and I would sue the city if that was in front of my house. I’m retired I got all day to sue, complain and ask why the hell my city with an entire police force public works trash department waterworks cannot pick up 10 tents in front of my house. This is dereliction of duty and we need to start getting lawyers to sue cities.
This is happening everywhere. It's happening in Texas where we've never had this issue before. I'm afraid it's never going to stop until we address the root causes. It's primarily mental health, and drug addiction. The way we're handling it now obviously isn't working, and sadly the same can be said for so many other issues. Like that false definition of insanity popularized by AA we keep doing the same thing over and over expecting different results.
Drugs need to be made illegal for a start. Build more prisons. If they break the law put them in jail. I'd rather my tax paying money go to prisoners than to having them mess up every single city in the country
@@Sammy-il1qf We have enough prisons and prisoners as it is, and they are doing nothing but spreading injustice, misery, and hopelessness.
Here's a thought
Door #1: Make this country even more of prison country than it already is now.
Or
Door #2: Help our neighbors up and learn their stories so that we can figure out realistic ways of permanently preventing homelessness instead of making everyone pay for an unnecessary perpetual prison system.
@@knightofkorbin888 You will never permanently prevent homelessness as long as drugs are legal. Many are happy to live on the streets.
Some people get sick or injured and lose their jobs.
That starts the downward spiral.
@@Sammy-il1qf wow, i have never actually encountered somebody stupid enough to support the war on drugs.
All that money, complaints and conflict, yet not one plastic straw was recovered. Good job cali!
The more you offer homeless people, the more they will increase. It's not rocket science folks. Go the other way; make it illegal and uncomfortable. They will go back to earning their lives. What do you call someone who does not learn lessons?
ABSOLUTELY all the hand outs they receive is ABSOLUTELY OUTRAGEOUS!!!
No one wants to do anything about it, people just want it to go away but it's not going to just disappear. These are people they aren't just going to stop existing because you aren't happy.
They're meant to be a warning
@@matthewarnold4557 It's not very clear what you are referring to.
@@Squee_666_9 like that George Carlin but in the '80s that the homeless are meant to be a warning to the poor and the poor meant to be a warning to the middle class.