I loved making these types of observations when I originally played these games. One of my most keen was that the lady dancers on Vega (Claw) stage dance left and right. This is ONLY found on SNES and only on World Warrior.
Notice also in Guile's stage that in the Genesis version the background airbase is lost in a darker fog. The airbase can't be seen. In Vegas of SNES WW the girls look well drawn and has a nice animation while the SF2T are based in the original arcade.
I didn't noticed that the Casino Girls had jiggly physics Even on Genesis, I ONLY played THIS game everyday for 3 years since i was 12 Now i'm 21 and i didn't noticed that until now
The background omissions likely have more to do with maintaining performance than not bothering to re-draw the sprites, eg. removing two of the six elephants on Dhalsim's stage. The CPS-1 arcade board was considerably more powerful than the 16 bit home consoles.
I assume it's because of the lower horizontal resolution on either home system. The CPS arcade original has 384 pixels wide vs the console's 256 pixels (yes, also the Genesis version runs in this resolution mode). There exists a hack for Genesis port with two missing elephants in the middle redrawn (Pyron, I guess), but they don't have an extra parallax scroll layer like in the arcade.
@@kamranki I don't think so if they had the option to include everything without hampering performance... At the time, they were heavily pressured to make the home versions as arcade perfect as possible.
And sprite animation. When Ryu and Ken go foward and backward, in both consoles, Super Nintendo and Sega Genesis are completely different from Arcade sprite animation. But, both games adaptations are amazing!
The Battletoads soundtrack fits well! But honestly I don't like the game very much bc the button configuration is wrong and it's way to unfair. Great looking game tough! And Street Fighter 2 is still a wonderful title 🤘🏼
Way to bring this point now a days.. When I bought me my SF2 Turbo for super nintendo I expected the arcade not even the music was the same..Fck SNES you riped me off as a child I still can feel it!! lol
I feel your pain bro! Fortunatelly for me, I first meet SF2 in SNES and then, later on ARCADE. It blew my mind back then how different and more aggressive it was!
I can tell you almost every difference between CPS1 and the Genesis & SNES ports (that weren't covered here): Japan(Ryu)=Genesis&SNES sky doesn't scroll, while it does in CPS1 Japan(E Honda)=some objects to the left side of the tub are different in the ports, and water doesn't crest back and forth over the edge of the tub in the ports Brazil=sky doesn't scroll in Genesis, and for CE/Turbo, sky is sunset in CPS1, while still midday in ports USA(Guile)=all differences noted USA(Ken)=in world warrior, there are objects missing (specifically boxes) from the right side of the screen in SNES China=sprites for bicyclists were made bigger in CE/Turbo for CPS1, but not SNES, Genesis mucks up the colors USSR=this video didn't mention that the old man is missing in Genesis&SNES India=there are 6 elephants in CPS1, only 4 in Genesis/SNES USA(Balrog)=differences noted Spain=guitar players are missing in Genesis&SNES, the brick walls are missing from SNES, and the 2 flamenca dancers dresses are different colors from CPS1 in CE/Turbo Thailand(Sagat)=the palm tree in world warrior is missing in SNES version Thailand(M Bison)=some background characters are missing in Genesis&SNES
I mean, small things like those can be negligible as long as the game plays smoothly and the core content like the characters, moves, story endings and the number of stages was faithful.
@@OtomoTenzi indeed, gameplay accuracy is the most important thing, and the mentioned SF2 games are the best arcade to home fighting game adaptations of the 16bit aera.
5:05 You skipped the fact in the SNES version of SF2 the girls were wearing a one piece suit instead of a bikini, and the pidgeons animation at the end of the round is very different.
Personally, I don't care about the "censorship". A guy's skin color, a dude playing with himself. Honestly, wouldn't have bothered me if they left it, and I'm equally unbothered that it was changed.
genesis version has the couples on guile stage, but the background itself is missing A LOT just a plain orange background Im reaaaaaally surprised with the PC ENGINE version, the quality of that game is INCREDIBLE for an 8bit console.
I love comparisons like this. I've compared the versions too. I like the Genesis/Mega Drive version most. It certainly is not perfect. SNES version has some music I just don't like. Sega version has the most background elements retained. I assume it's an issue of cart space and data size. The Sega versions have larger carts, but don't need all the music samples the SNES one needs. I suspect they cut out some unique background tiles to help save cart space.
Both have missing details. Look at the moving clouds in Blanka's background or the scrolling Ryu's castle for example, in the SNES version both have extra scroll layers while in the Genesis version it's static. I like both versions, but the SNES has better SFX/samples (it's scratchy on Genesis). The music is a matter of flavour, on Genesis it sounds more harsh like the CPS original, while the SNES has more melodic sounding tracks. Like I said, both are great ports!
@@greensun1334 That's fair. They both have cutbacks, for sure. The examples you gave take advantage of the extra scroll layer of the SNES. However, as background details go, I put more weight on the extra elements like the extra people in Guile's stage. Of course, none of those things affect gameplay. I'm not sure if that comes down to saving cart space or VRAM on SNES. Even back in 1993, the scratchy voices on the Genesis didn't bother me, but clearly they bother other people. The SNES voices are muffled which I always noticed. The PC Engine version has the best voices, and I have no complaint about it not having multiple sample overlap, which is actually accurate to the arcade. As for music, it is subjective. I love the original FM sound of the arcade. I prefer the overall sound of the music of the Genesis version. Some of the music on the SNES is excellent, though some of it strays too far from the arcade for my taste. But the biggest thing for me is I just can't stand the SNES version of Ken's music. I don't know what they were thinking when they rearranged that. And that is a complaint I have seen made by others, so it's not a unique issue on my part. But I agree with your final point, all of them, even the PC Engine version, are great ports in their own way.
It's too bad you didn't do side by sides of the arcade with the SNES and Genesis' editions. That would have taken more effort, but would have produced a much better video, even with the broken English.
Changes had to be made to accommodate SNES. IT was the best transition from arcade to console made at the time. Otherwise you would get Street Fighter 2 the final fight on NES😩
The reason things are drawn different is because different people worked on different versions and they touched it up to how they prefer which is just human nature.
It says a lot about the design compromises of those old consoles. Sega went with high speed rendering and thus more animation frames. Nintendo went with an incressed colour pallet and so each individual frame was better drawn. It's hard to say who was right, guess it would have to be decided on a game by game basses.
More animation frames were present on some characters but only on the BETA version of Genesis. Final releases of both games feature exact identical animation frames for all characters. A quick look at sprite sheets will tel you that. I am pretty sure both systems could have handled more animation frames if Capcom had desired so.
When I was a young teenager with the start of the animation of the start they had shown the white fighter punching the black fighter on the champion edition of the arcade of Street Fighter 2 I was in Florida (Jacksonville Beach Florida no less) and and it showed that
'Converted for 16-bits' I might be wrong, but wasn't the CPS1 (The arcade system board SF2 ran under) a 16-Bit system? Probably would have been better to have just said '16-bit Home consoles' as it really was the system resolutions and storage space that required the downgrade and redrawing of assets. That said, this really is interesting comparison! I think on the whole the SNES version looks the best, especially color-wise, but I think the Genesis version would play the best, wider resolution and six-button pad and all. (I've never played the Genesis version, and the SNES version only briefly)
All three 16bit ports run in the same resolution mode of 256x224. Indeed, the CPS1 system is 16bit, but with a higher horizontal resolution (224x384), more colors in screen and a faster CPU.
still dont know which one was censoreship and which was hardware limitation, i know there are one less elephant on dalshim stage and that was hw limitation
Not only the sprites difference but in Sega Genesis some people in the background have more frames of animation. I played both versions Sega and SNES of SF2 Champion Edition/Turbo, and for some reason, Genesis seems much better for me. I mean, having the 6 buttons control for Sega Genesis, because play in the original control was a hell.
Damn I remember playing it soon as It was released with the 3 button controller.. having to constantly press START to change layout was the one of the worst moments in my videogame playing life and that's going back for god knows how many years. Probably only being bettered by having to stack at least 10 full cassette boxes on my amstrad cpc cassette player so that my pirated copy of CHASE HQ would finish loading..
Snes had far better graphics and sound capabilities than Megadrive : it could display 256 colors out of 32768 whereas the MD could only display 64 colors to chose from 512. Hence the obvious visual differences in games that were on both platforms (just take a look at Mr. Nutz). As for the sound while the Snes did not reach cd quality it tended to close the gap and produced more realistic sounds for the instruments and voices. Now having 8-bit sounds has its charm too.
dlfrsilver, about the sound, you couldn't be further from the truth. Both the SNES and Genesis, in the right hands could make great music, only lazy developers could make a system sound like shite as you say. You're either deaf, or a fanboy, one of the two.
@@Bloodreign1 Fact 1 : the Genesis sound problem is cause by a shitty sound driver. It's a known fact. Fact 2 : the SNES has an horrible sound processor that has an awful echo effect, and the music/sound unatural at best. oh and the SNES never displays 256 colors in game, but only on fixed screens. A game like SSF2 for instance, never show more than 180 colors, backgrounds and sprite wise. The Megadrive can show between 64 and 90 colors with palette tricks ingame.
does anybody remember a move that Guile could do in the Street Fighter 2 arcade game called the freeze I think it only works in Zangiefs level when you're fighting him but I saw a kid do it at the arcade and I've never been able to do it guile would you like to flash kick and stopping mid motion and every time Zangiefs coming at you he gets hurt it's a cheap way to win the match but it looks cool
There could be a reason why the couple from Guile's level were missing from the SNES and PC Engine versions. They probably went AWOL into the barracks for some grown folk lovin'. 😉😏
The only thing I can think of in regards to changing the black guy to a white guy was that Street Fighter II was released around the same time as the Rodney King incident.
I am also playing this game since early 1992 i never noticed these things in background may be because i was 11 years old kid that time I saw another very bad version as well for Nintendo in 1993 i think with very few charactors.
Most of them were CPU related like the 2 missing from Guiles stage. Of they had been there it would of slowed down even more. The colour on the Sega console on Balrog/Bison stage is down to the colours the Mega Drive had
I disagree. Super Street Fighter 2 for snes had the missing couple of guiles stage and plays just fine. I think it had more to do with the kart size. 20 megabit snes vs 24 megabit genesis. More room to draw more frames and details. Also snes kart takes more space because of the amount of colors on screen.
Although the original Street Fighter 2 on the Mega Drive shows how lazy Capcom were (and still are) you really need to capture Mega Drive footage better.
1128nesecret New Generation, 2nd Impact, and 3rd Strike were all arcade perfect. They were released on the Dreamcast. There would be nothing to compare. An Alpha series PlayStation/Arcade comparison would be more feasible.
I've always said that despite the SEGA version getting pounded mercilessly by nintendo fanboy sites and youtubers it pulls ahead in being more like the arcade original. OK fair enough the NInty had better sound chips and more colours but it felt... lacking compared to the SEGA version. No stage shows the difference more than Ryu's stage. The Ninty didn't have that little intro. The SEGA one did. All it needed was the correct walking animations on the sprites or the music change at an imminent KO and it would have been almost perfect.
Lol, let's be honest, the Megadrive/Genesis version was gay as hell bro, it had about four colours on screen and sounded like someone sexually harassing a washing machine. I had both versions as a kid, but there was simply no comparison, SNES all the way.
The intro may have been skipped due to Nintendo censorship. They could've put a white guy like they did on the Sega, but I think at tiumes even back then, Capcom were lazy bastards and just scrapped the intro. Of course that intro is also not in the Japanese SFC version, and it was an early SNES release (remember how bad Final Fight was, and it near a launch title), so maybe Capcom weren't comfortable with the SFC/SNES hardware at that time. Another example is Power Instinct. Power Instinct on the Mega Drive had the arcade intro, but the SNES/SFC version didn't, but the sound was atrocious on the MD version, while the SFC/SNES version had better overall sound. Not to mention the MD and western SNES releases lacked the arcade endings for each character, but the SFC version actually retained everyone's endings.
This is the whole problem with people watching TH-cam videos and then judging things as if they have played the game. The Mega Drive version plays great but you aren’t going to see that here. Same goes for Mortal Kombat
The difference in standing stance animation is only on the BETA version of Genesis / Mega Driver version. Final versions had these animations cut, just like SNES version.
What's sad is, all the comments about Genesis. A system 2 full years older than the snes. A system that was originally going to be the PlayStation before Nintendo fucked up. Yes a system that comes out AFTER a system SHOULD be more advanced. Stfu already! It still competed! And it beat like 2 or 3 other systems!
People thought it was racist to have a black guy getting decked by a white man. That argument does seem valid but not at all,as the game has characters or many races
Once I heard the USA had a infamous history with racism and slavery. It might be the reason for the color swap of the black dude who got punched in the original intro. Just my wild guess but who is me anyway.
The color changes were due to color palette changes to work on home consoles. The Arcade could display 520 colors at the same time...snes was 312, and Genesis was 64 but 128 with fancy program trickery.
On a CRT, trust me when I say that Mega Drive version actually looks pretty decent. On today's modern displays though, all versions kinda look pixellated (and Mega Drive's lack of colors becomes even more obvious).
Sega Genesis has a better processor hence games with more action with little to no slowdown. Snes has a shit processor hence you don't see crazy action games on there and the ones that are there have slowdown.
LAWL ! Just for information, the japanese coders hated the SNES. They prefered the Genesis, but since Nintendo was paying good the studios, they had to code on it ! In SF2 SNES you of course have animations removed, this is due to the weak processor, too slow to have all of them. On the opposite, the Genesis has a better and faster processor, and the VDP of the Genesis, is very flexible and can do lots of things. The only difference stands in the amount of colors the one and the other can display. The SNES can have more colors.
SNES could of course display more colors on-screen hence the reason for games often looking better. Also allowed for some really cool transparency effects like fog and smog.
Sorry for the bad english!
Your English is fine, I understood what you wrote in annotations very easily.
Your english is terrible.
Lo hubieras hecho en español...
I loved making these types of observations when I originally played these games. One of my most keen was that the lady dancers on Vega (Claw) stage dance left and right. This is ONLY found on SNES and only on World Warrior.
Notice also in Guile's stage that in the Genesis version the background airbase is lost in a darker fog. The airbase can't be seen.
In Vegas of SNES WW the girls look well drawn and has a nice animation while the SF2T are based in the original arcade.
*w h o i s m e a n y w a y*
retrof!lth dammit I was gonna comment this
Lol I liked that too
Deep question bro
Lol talking like cookie monster
best part of the video.
I didn't noticed that the Casino Girls had jiggly physics
Even on Genesis, I ONLY played THIS game everyday for 3 years since i was 12
Now i'm 21 and i didn't noticed that until now
The background omissions likely have more to do with maintaining performance than not bothering to re-draw the sprites, eg. removing two of the six elephants on Dhalsim's stage. The CPS-1 arcade board was considerably more powerful than the 16 bit home consoles.
Actually it was likely more to do with it being only 16Meg, as opposed to the 24Meg of the final version.
@@ReviewUSA-ri5dv If cost was NOT a factor, do you think it prolly could've been arcade perfect with 48 megs?
I assume it's because of the lower horizontal resolution on either home system. The CPS arcade original has 384 pixels wide vs the console's 256 pixels (yes, also the Genesis version runs in this resolution mode). There exists a hack for Genesis port with two missing elephants in the middle redrawn (Pyron, I guess), but they don't have an extra parallax scroll layer like in the arcade.
The snes version is missing some sprites as it's cpu was slower than that of the genesis. It's more obvious on some stages than others.
Do you think that was the reason for missing sprites? Or maybe the devs just didnt want to put efforts where most people wouldn't notice it?
The American street fighter 2 spe champion edition is where the blond guy is from hyper fighting of arcade!
The SF/SNES version had a 20M-bit cartridge as opposed to the 24M-bit one for MD/Gen. Maybe that's one reason? 🤔
you don't understand anything about hardware and keep vomiting and repeating the nonsense that all sega boys write, dumb
@@kamranki I don't think so if they had the option to include everything without hampering performance... At the time, they were heavily pressured to make the home versions as arcade perfect as possible.
The Genesis Beta has better animation that closely resembles the arcade. Interesting.
And sprite animation. When Ryu and Ken go foward and backward, in both consoles, Super Nintendo and Sega Genesis are completely different from Arcade sprite animation. But, both games adaptations are amazing!
The Battletoads soundtrack fits well! But honestly I don't like the game very much bc the button configuration is wrong and it's way to unfair. Great looking game tough! And Street Fighter 2 is still a wonderful title 🤘🏼
This just made me wanna go listen to the original arcade soundtrack .
It was a nice video, it relived my childhood. Thanks for posting such nice videos.
Way to bring this point now a days.. When I bought me my SF2 Turbo for super nintendo I expected the arcade not even the music was the same..Fck SNES you riped me off as a child I still can feel it!! lol
I feel your pain bro! Fortunatelly for me, I first meet SF2 in SNES and then, later on ARCADE. It blew my mind back then how different and more aggressive it was!
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I can tell you almost every difference between CPS1 and the Genesis & SNES ports (that weren't covered here):
Japan(Ryu)=Genesis&SNES sky doesn't scroll, while it does in CPS1
Japan(E Honda)=some objects to the left side of the tub are different in the ports, and water doesn't crest back and forth over the edge of the tub in the ports
Brazil=sky doesn't scroll in Genesis, and for CE/Turbo, sky is sunset in CPS1, while still midday in ports
USA(Guile)=all differences noted
USA(Ken)=in world warrior, there are objects missing (specifically boxes) from the right side of the screen in SNES
China=sprites for bicyclists were made bigger in CE/Turbo for CPS1, but not SNES, Genesis mucks up the colors
USSR=this video didn't mention that the old man is missing in Genesis&SNES
India=there are 6 elephants in CPS1, only 4 in Genesis/SNES
USA(Balrog)=differences noted
Spain=guitar players are missing in Genesis&SNES, the brick walls are missing from SNES, and the 2 flamenca dancers dresses are different colors from CPS1 in CE/Turbo
Thailand(Sagat)=the palm tree in world warrior is missing in SNES version
Thailand(M Bison)=some background characters are missing in Genesis&SNES
I mean, small things like those can be negligible as long as the game plays smoothly and the core content like the characters, moves, story endings and the number of stages was faithful.
@@OtomoTenzi indeed, gameplay accuracy is the most important thing, and the mentioned SF2 games are the best arcade to home fighting game adaptations of the 16bit aera.
5:05 You skipped the fact in the SNES version of SF2 the girls were wearing a one piece suit instead of a bikini, and the pidgeons animation at the end of the round is very different.
Personally, I don't care about the "censorship". A guy's skin color, a dude playing with himself. Honestly, wouldn't have bothered me if they left it, and I'm equally unbothered that it was changed.
genesis version has the couples on guile stage, but the background itself is missing A LOT
just a plain orange background
Im reaaaaaally surprised with the PC ENGINE version, the quality of that game is INCREDIBLE for an 8bit console.
This was great! Guess Im not the only one to notice all these little details haha!
Pc version got Zangief stage correct by removing the fence
I love comparisons like this. I've compared the versions too. I like the Genesis/Mega Drive version most. It certainly is not perfect. SNES version has some music I just don't like. Sega version has the most background elements retained. I assume it's an issue of cart space and data size. The Sega versions have larger carts, but don't need all the music samples the SNES one needs. I suspect they cut out some unique background tiles to help save cart space.
Both have missing details. Look at the moving clouds in Blanka's background or the scrolling Ryu's castle for example, in the SNES version both have extra scroll layers while in the Genesis version it's static. I like both versions, but the SNES has better SFX/samples (it's scratchy on Genesis). The music is a matter of flavour, on Genesis it sounds more harsh like the CPS original, while the SNES has more melodic sounding tracks. Like I said, both are great ports!
@@greensun1334 That's fair. They both have cutbacks, for sure. The examples you gave take advantage of the extra scroll layer of the SNES. However, as background details go, I put more weight on the extra elements like the extra people in Guile's stage. Of course, none of those things affect gameplay. I'm not sure if that comes down to saving cart space or VRAM on SNES. Even back in 1993, the scratchy voices on the Genesis didn't bother me, but clearly they bother other people. The SNES voices are muffled which I always noticed. The PC Engine version has the best voices, and I have no complaint about it not having multiple sample overlap, which is actually accurate to the arcade. As for music, it is subjective. I love the original FM sound of the arcade. I prefer the overall sound of the music of the Genesis version. Some of the music on the SNES is excellent, though some of it strays too far from the arcade for my taste. But the biggest thing for me is I just can't stand the SNES version of Ken's music. I don't know what they were thinking when they rearranged that. And that is a complaint I have seen made by others, so it's not a unique issue on my part. But I agree with your final point, all of them, even the PC Engine version, are great ports in their own way.
It's too bad you didn't do side by sides of the arcade with the SNES and Genesis' editions. That would have taken more effort, but would have produced a much better video, even with the broken English.
Check the other videos! I did a ton of videos regarding this subject!
that women is really doing cardio in one of hte versions! maybe she was training to become a street fighter
great video. Only thing that would be better is to see them side by side for comparison.
There is also a difference in Zangief's stage on the snes the chain on the right is on the floor yet on the megadrive its its up like the arcade
Changes had to be made to accommodate SNES. IT was the best transition from arcade to console made at the time. Otherwise you would get Street Fighter 2 the final fight on NES😩
The Genesis sound is equivalent to the sounds my ass make when I take a shit.
hahaha 😂
The reason things are drawn different is because different people worked on different versions and they touched it up to how they prefer which is just human nature.
Genesis had good music but the voices were like the guy lost his voice to the flu for 6 weeks
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pc engine is my favourite
It says a lot about the design compromises of those old consoles. Sega went with high speed rendering and thus more animation frames. Nintendo went with an incressed colour pallet and so each individual frame was better drawn. It's hard to say who was right, guess it would have to be decided on a game by game basses.
More animation frames were present on some characters but only on the BETA version of Genesis. Final releases of both games feature exact identical animation frames for all characters. A quick look at sprite sheets will tel you that. I am pretty sure both systems could have handled more animation frames if Capcom had desired so.
They prolly just went accordingly to whatever that worked best within each system's limitations were...
When I was a young teenager with the start of the animation of the start they had shown the white fighter punching the black fighter on the champion edition of the arcade of Street Fighter 2 I was in Florida (Jacksonville Beach Florida no less) and and it showed that
'Converted for 16-bits' I might be wrong, but wasn't the CPS1 (The arcade system board SF2 ran under) a 16-Bit system? Probably would have been better to have just said '16-bit Home consoles' as it really was the system resolutions and storage space that required the downgrade and redrawing of assets.
That said, this really is interesting comparison! I think on the whole the SNES version looks the best, especially color-wise, but I think the Genesis version would play the best, wider resolution and six-button pad and all. (I've never played the Genesis version, and the SNES version only briefly)
All three 16bit ports run in the same resolution mode of 256x224. Indeed, the CPS1 system is 16bit, but with a higher horizontal resolution (224x384), more colors in screen and a faster CPU.
still dont know which one was censoreship and which was hardware limitation, i know there are one less elephant on dalshim stage and that was hw limitation
If you're doing this, would you make a comparison of all the stages in each version?
geekgo4 already did !
Not only the sprites difference but in Sega Genesis some people in the background have more frames of animation. I played both versions Sega and SNES of SF2 Champion Edition/Turbo, and for some reason, Genesis seems much better for me. I mean, having the 6 buttons control for Sega Genesis, because play in the original control was a hell.
snes had a 6 button controller as well
Damn I remember playing it soon as It was released with the 3 button controller.. having to constantly press START to change layout was the one of the worst moments in my videogame playing life and that's going back for god knows how many years. Probably only being bettered by having to stack at least 10 full cassette boxes on my amstrad cpc cassette player so that my pirated copy of CHASE HQ would finish loading..
Sou1defiler haha! You should check out a video by desk- he does some seriously amazing combos on the original 3 button pad.
HUB GOBLIN yea the music sounds weird on the sega genesis version too.
jajajajaja sega always sucks...are you blind and deaf?? fuck off.....
The genesis could only handle a portion of the colours the snes could that's why the loss of colour.
Snes had far better graphics and sound capabilities than Megadrive : it could display 256 colors out of 32768 whereas the MD could only display 64 colors to chose from 512. Hence the obvious visual differences in games that were on both platforms (just take a look at Mr. Nutz).
As for the sound while the Snes did not reach cd quality it tended to close the gap and produced more realistic sounds for the instruments and voices. Now having 8-bit sounds has its charm too.
the SNES had a weak processor, and a shite sound chip !
dlfrsilver, about the sound, you couldn't be further from the truth. Both the SNES and Genesis, in the right hands could make great music, only lazy developers could make a system sound like shite as you say.
You're either deaf, or a fanboy, one of the two.
@@Bloodreign1 Fact 1 : the Genesis sound problem is cause by a shitty sound driver. It's a known fact. Fact 2 : the SNES has an horrible sound processor that has an awful echo effect, and the music/sound unatural at best. oh and the SNES never displays 256 colors in game, but only on fixed screens. A game like SSF2 for instance, never show more than 180 colors, backgrounds and sprite wise. The Megadrive can show between 64 and 90 colors with palette tricks ingame.
Battletoads + Double Dragon = great theme!
SF2 Special Champion Edition, 10 Stars Difficulty, No Time, 10 Stars Speed. Anyone want a few games on Fightcade one Friday/Saturday evening ?
how many bits was the original arcade version?
Actually the Genesis Beta has a different design for “Q”.
does anybody remember a move that Guile could do in the Street Fighter 2 arcade game called the freeze I think it only works in Zangiefs level when you're fighting him but I saw a kid do it at the arcade and I've never been able to do it guile would you like to flash kick and stopping mid motion and every time Zangiefs coming at you he gets hurt it's a cheap way to win the match but it looks cool
There could be a reason why the couple from Guile's level were missing from the SNES and PC Engine versions. They probably went AWOL into the barracks for some grown folk lovin'. 😉😏
The only thing I can think of in regards to changing the black guy to a white guy was that Street Fighter II was released around the same time as the Rodney King incident.
Only problem I had was the walking backwards animations were not on the console games not even PC could do it.. sad
Thank you for these videos.
I am also playing this game since early 1992 i never noticed these things in background may be because i was 11 years old kid that time I saw another very bad version as well for Nintendo in 1993 i think with very few charactors.
I made a comment, then deleted it. It didn't make any sense after I saw it sober.
Most of them were CPU related like the 2 missing from Guiles stage. Of they had been there it would of slowed down even more. The colour on the Sega console on Balrog/Bison stage is down to the colours the Mega Drive had
I disagree. Super Street Fighter 2 for snes had the missing couple of guiles stage and plays just fine. I think it had more to do with the kart size. 20 megabit snes vs 24 megabit genesis. More room to draw more frames and details. Also snes kart takes more space because of the amount of colors on screen.
@@Gametropics They prolly should went with either 32 or 48 meg carts instead, since they were gonna charge people so much money anyway...
This sound is Batle Toads?
They should have also noticed in Blanka's stage, that the anaconda is green in some versions and red in others.
Also that in CE/Turbo, his stage is at sunset in CPS1, but midday in SNES&Genesis
Why does the genesis footage look so... "Dithered"?
I always loved how Guile's song sounded on Sega
The arcade version (CPS-1), was also 16-BIT fyi. 🙂
Much more memory (RAM) though
Ha ha.. Those hand movements at 0.56 min 😂😂
Walter Flanagan Yeah,that's what it seems like.. Funny thing is that I didn't notice it before 😂
Double dragon vs battle toads.... Do I win some kind of prize now? Lol
I like the snes and PCE ports, i don't like the genesis port because its sound its very off.
Great game and great video!
hahaha this guy didnt compare the snes turbo version of SF2..and use the world warrior .which is inferior
Not inferior! Different! And I did compare every single version of sf2 on SNES just not on this particular video!!
Although the original Street Fighter 2 on the Mega Drive shows how lazy Capcom were (and still are) you really need to capture Mega Drive footage better.
Could you do a New Generation comparison or third strike I suppose.
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New Generation, 2nd Impact, and 3rd Strike were all arcade perfect. They were released on the Dreamcast. There would be nothing to compare. An Alpha series PlayStation/Arcade comparison would be more feasible.
Capcom of USA was super sensitive. They should've listened to fans that probably raged about the censorship.
I've always said that despite the SEGA version getting pounded mercilessly by nintendo fanboy sites and youtubers it pulls ahead in being more like the arcade original. OK fair enough the NInty had better sound chips and more colours but it felt... lacking compared to the SEGA version. No stage shows the difference more than Ryu's stage. The Ninty didn't have that little intro. The SEGA one did. All it needed was the correct walking animations on the sprites or the music change at an imminent KO and it would have been almost perfect.
Lol, let's be honest, the Megadrive/Genesis version was gay as hell bro, it had about four colours on screen and sounded like someone sexually harassing a washing machine. I had both versions as a kid, but there was simply no comparison, SNES all the way.
Sega butchered those classic themes with their horrible music & sfx I would never buy that crap
"Ninty" sounds gay af
The intro may have been skipped due to Nintendo censorship. They could've put a white guy like they did on the Sega, but I think at tiumes even back then, Capcom were lazy bastards and just scrapped the intro. Of course that intro is also not in the Japanese SFC version, and it was an early SNES release (remember how bad Final Fight was, and it near a launch title), so maybe Capcom weren't comfortable with the SFC/SNES hardware at that time.
Another example is Power Instinct. Power Instinct on the Mega Drive had the arcade intro, but the SNES/SFC version didn't, but the sound was atrocious on the MD version, while the SFC/SNES version had better overall sound. Not to mention the MD and western SNES releases lacked the arcade endings for each character, but the SFC version actually retained everyone's endings.
This is the whole problem with people watching TH-cam videos and then judging things as if they have played the game. The Mega Drive version plays great but you aren’t going to see that here. Same goes for Mortal Kombat
good video i know all,my favorite sf2 is the megadrive version!
And the winner are Sharp x68000 and Commodore Amiga
Amiga? Are you joking?
This video is not clear. You could have used some texts so the viewer would distinct each version easily.
the Genesis Beta has better animation (for the fighters) I find...
B-MAN its true, but only on standing stance. And maybe the basic movement. The rest has huge frame cuts
It also has better color choices.
The difference in standing stance animation is only on the BETA version of Genesis / Mega Driver version. Final versions had these animations cut, just like SNES version.
Genesis beta and pc engine looks better than others
There’s some English errors in this video
Doesn't matter. Great content nonetheless!
What's sad is, all the comments about Genesis. A system 2 full years older than the snes. A system that was originally going to be the PlayStation before Nintendo fucked up. Yes a system that comes out AFTER a system SHOULD be more advanced. Stfu already! It still competed! And it beat like 2 or 3 other systems!
I'm surprised Nintendo allowed the drinking guy to remain.
Beat people to pulp but drink or sex? No!
Crazy background differences
Blanca’s theme sounds like Depeche Mode
Why is it like this? Censorship
Why did they change this? Censorship
Why is X? Censorship
Every rhetorical here is because censorship.
The first part had me laughing lol. Even the American version looks like a wanking hand movement, but the Japanese version definitely does.
People thought it was racist to have a black guy getting decked by a white man. That argument does seem valid but not at all,as the game has characters or many races
1:47 Genesis BETA has no US flag on bow
Ótimo vídeo! Eu gostei muito.
Simple answer. Use MAME and play the arcade version. Who bothers with conversion in this day and age.
Nik Skid Fun fact: MAME is literally a conversion itself.
We collectors do of course.
replacing black guy with white one in sf2 intro proves capcom was way ahead in pc bullshit
Watched the whole thing... but i thought at least 15 min had passed.
Eu sou o BR que você procura nos comentários e sim, eu tive um 8 Bits da Dynavision 😎🤝
Both guys are shaking/rolling dice. This gambling reference would not stand in U.S.
battletoads double dragons music!?
Genesis SF2 beta version👉 Base is awsm🔥
Also, in the US, its always been a black guy that gets punched in the intro...both arcade and snes and sega...
Once I heard the USA had a infamous history with racism and slavery. It might be the reason for the color swap of the black dude who got punched in the original intro. Just my wild guess but who is me anyway.
Sega does what nintendon't
Still the best port during the 16 bit era
The best 16 bit port was Final Fight on Sega CD, almost CPS1 perfect, had two player, and Roxy and Poison were back
5:45 their eyes and lips like steve's in minecraft.
The color changes were due to color palette changes to work on home consoles. The Arcade could display 520 colors at the same time...snes was 312, and Genesis was 64 but 128 with fancy program trickery.
snes was 256
I cannot remember my Mega-Drive-version looked so bad. I remember it better.
On a CRT, trust me when I say that Mega Drive version actually looks pretty decent. On today's modern displays though, all versions kinda look pixellated (and Mega Drive's lack of colors becomes even more obvious).
@@kamranki even CPS1 looks pixelated on a 1080p TV
The genesis version had great beefy sound effects.
But the voices were terrible and scratchy sounding.
Music was much closer to CPS1 on Genesis
The man in the trench coat is Q
SNES is definitely superior to the Mega Drive in every way. It's just the better console.
neiiii, SNES is shite aside the genesis :D
Sega Genesis has a better processor hence games with more action with little to no slowdown. Snes has a shit processor hence you don't see crazy action games on there and the ones that are there have slowdown.
Genesis does, what ninten-don't.
LAWL ! Just for information, the japanese coders hated the SNES. They prefered the Genesis, but since Nintendo was paying good the studios, they had to code on it ! In SF2 SNES you of course have animations removed, this is due to the weak processor, too slow to have all of them. On the opposite, the Genesis has a better and faster processor, and the VDP of the Genesis, is very flexible and can do lots of things. The only difference stands in the amount of colors the one and the other can display. The SNES can have more colors.
SNES could of course display more colors on-screen hence the reason for games often looking better. Also allowed for some really cool transparency effects like fog and smog.
dafuq the blue guy is doing kkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk
They made intro change to white guy because white racism towards blacks is a big issue in the west. It was just less controversial to change it.
5:45 WHAT....???
What?
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The Genesis version always looks blocky.