Do all salt mixes precipitate in saltwater storage bins? | BRStv Investigates
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- What is that precipitation crust in my saltwater storage bin? It's a common question among many reefers who store mixed saltwater, but do all salt mixes create precipitate-precipitation? Today on #BRStvInvestigates we find out!
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I’d just like to say how much I appreciate your videos and the BRS investigates series. The information I’ve learned from you all is priceless! Thanks for everything you do for the hobby
I’ve watched pretty much all your videos over the last 12 months, and feel like I’m at an unfair advantage because I haven’t set up my first saltwater tank yet
Randy - I think a good test would have been to stir it up with the normal salt water mix and get a ICP-OES and NDOC test on it. To see if it alters the chemistry.
U had me at pharmacudical, tried many of those salts, Hw reefer hard to mix, bright Wells was easy but had to mix for 24 hours, u should have tried Aquaforest reefer salt , really good also, I used the accru-Sea, great parameters, but only 4.5 gallons a package.?, also had stuff that never dissolved, tried four boxes before switching to tropic Marin pro, great great stuff!!
Looking forward to the weekend! Get excited to be warm!
Great test!
You did miss one opportunity though. Before and after stage 3, you could have weighed each sediment cartridge in grams to get the weight of percipient and then divided it by weight of salt required to achieve 35 ppt. As far as moisture content is concerned, you bake the cartridge in an oven at 180F for 24 hours...hot enough to evaporate all the water out but cool enough to not combust anything.
Finally, I wish you have included AquaForest Reef Salt
I plan too :)...but can I borrow your poker chips lol
Excellent video ! Makes me want to switch salts now.
I normally add a bit of artificial vinegar to the water before mixing. That prevents precipitation of the calcium.
Love tests like this. Just proves how far we go for our hobby
Oh, you are rockin' the boat! This salt mix series is a hot debate. Very interesting!
Great video, used HW reefer for many years but got brown gunk in mixing station, swiped for Aquaforest reef salt its about less but stil some
Could someone explain to me why they would use the Red Sea salts over the others? It doesn't seem to fair very well in any of the testing.
Personally I only store RODI water
I fill my bin over night to get the water to temperature and mix the salt the next morning to use that day
Personally I find that the best method
WILDWELSH PETE I think a lot of this salt stuff is more for people with an auto water change system
WILDWELSH PETE but I agree with you. I do the same thing!
Same here. I always store any where from 15-25 gallons of rodi water at all times and when I need to make saltwater I just pump into my saltwater side and throw my heater thermometer and a maxijet in then come back and put my salt in when I get to 77/78 degrees. After my water change I always whip down the inside of my brute can completely dry so I’m ready for the next time. Zero problem with this. I use IO reef crystals.
If I leave saltwater in my brute can with my pumps running at all time that’s when I get the brown build up over time. Noticed if I only turn on my pump( either my maxijet or my panworld 40px pump) for just a short period of time just to get the water moving once a day or so I don’t get that brown build up.
Is there a video in the works to icp test the different salt mixes to show the levels they mix up to at 1.026 or 35ppt?
This is one of your best videos yet Randy. The testing using the eye chart and poker chips was a clever way to measure a difficult thing to measure. I was surprised that the Red Sea Blue didn't do better. I think I will be changing salt to the TMpro,. Where did you get those water tanks you used for the testing? I have one like it for my RO water. I'd like to buy another!
Keep up the good work!
very insightful 👍🏾... so if your planning to store saltwater go with synthetic salt unless your a mix it & use it type of ReefKeeper. I also only store RO/DI water. I only wish there were more salt brands included with this 1st round of analysis perhaps the 2nd will in the future?
Thanks I will stick with Tropic marine pro or neomarine.
Just filled my new 180g with IO based on the price point. I’ll likely be switching salts once I’m ready to start adding corals in a year or so.
Right or wrong...I just don't see how using IO or Red Sea would even be an option for me at this point. I will stick with ESV from now on.
I know this video is more pointed in the direction of people that do Auto water changes. I usually only store rodi water for ATO and to mix salt quickly to do a water change as needed.
Nice job randy
Thanks these videos help
Would it be best to let the precipitation occur before using water mix? I mix red sea pro and keep a power head running in a 20 gal long on patio,and water is crystal clear...
Great video guys, I’m so glad I use NSW lol. On a different note, what is your opinion of using Epsom salts to raise magnesium ?
I use my salt right away (15-20 mins). IO I get stuff floating on the top and scoop it out. Blue Bucket I get a brown sand on the bottom. No idea what that is.
Would sending the water from stage 2 out for testing at Triton show anything more about the composition of the sediment?
Excellent video guys
What’s the best way to clean out the mixing bin? Scrub with rodi water?
I've been conducting the same test with Fritz RPM
What did you come up with?
While I do believe this i noticed every clear shot is from nearly the same angle as the RODI while none of the precipitate heavy ones do.
I have a 100g poly container with a wide base and a rather small top, no way I'm cleaning that out with a scrub brush. That said, I just mixed up a 200G tank with Red Sea blue bucket and didn't have any precipitation on the bottom (completely empty tank) maybe it takes more time?
Good day y’all.
Were there kids on these containers? If not, i wonder if some of the brown was just dust and such that got in?
So is it safe to do a water change with mixed saltwater that has some white buildup in the brute bin?
Shouldn't be an issue at all. You may just want to check calcium and alkalinity to make sure that they haven't dropped due to precipitation.
my friend sell a IO salt form 2014 production, it is ok to using it?
May this be the main reason why when you have Cyano/Dino or battling with some sort of algae in the reef tank, that doing Water Changes "actually makes it worse" rather than fixing the problem? May this also be the reason why Filter Socks, Filter Pads or Roller Mats looks brownish even more frequently? (Other than food particulates)
You may be into something else here BRStv. Very Interesting indeed.
What temperature was the water when the salt was added?
@@BRStv you may want to retest at 78 degrees. I've found red sea pro doesn't precipitate when the water is above 78 degrees. I used to have brown scaling in my mixing container then increased the temperature and found that I had result like tropic marine pro.
Now this was a video I was looking for. Bummer you didn't get TLF AccuraSea salt in there. Would love to have seen how that performed.
well I know which salt im going to start with.
Do all the testing on each newly prepared salt. Verify the component results. Recheck all the tests in 1 month, 2 months and 3 months. What component decreases and at what rate gives you what is being precipitated out. Just looking at crust build up and haziness won’t give the info most of us seek.
You should do video how to connect kessil h8 to apex
Seems the higher the Alk the more percepitate
Still waiting for the episode where your going to compare what happens to the levels with heated, circulated mixed saltwater over time.
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